Me, too. Today, i hope stephanie gets here. Until then, i want to tell you we have the rude pundit coming up this hour. As we do every monday and weve got some great stuff for you. But in the meantime, we do have Jacki Schechner giving us all of the news from the current news center. Take it away, jacki. Happy monday. Not a ton of stuff going on, especially in washington. Everyone is on vacation. President obama is now in Marthas Vineyard though hell be getting daily briefings from senior aides and he will spend some time, of course, preparing for whats likely to be a busy falling, dealing with among other things Immigration Reform and the federal budget. While our president is now playing golf and relaxing a bit. Enjoying downtime, the norwegian Prime Minister has been taking on a second job. Well, sort of. Let me explain. He went undercover as a taxi driver in oslo during june because he wanted to hear what real people had to say. His exchanges with cab riders were caught on hidden camera. He wore a disguise and only gave away his real identity once the passengers recognized him. Thats not really a great disguise if you think about it, just the sunglasses. A company helped him with the project and the video was posted on his facebook page. It is also going to be used as part of a film that he will use during his Reelection Campaign next month. The idea was to find out what people really had to say if he were driving a taxicab. Since the Prime Minister hasnt driven himself around in eight years, rumor is he had a little bit of difference going the difference between the brake and the clutch. All in all the project went smoothly and passengers werent charged for the ride. Things bumpier for anthony weiner. A new poll from Sienna College shows that the mayoral candidate has set a record with his unfavorable rating. 80 among new york voters. They say that is, of course, the most embarrassing theyve seen ever. Were back after the break. Did anyone tell the pilgrims they should selfdeport . No, they said make us a turkey and make it fast. laughter . She gets the comedians laughing. Thats the best thats hilarious. And the thinkers thinking. Okay, so there is wiggle room in the Ten Commandments is what youre telling me. Shes joy behar. Ya, i consider you jewtalian. Okay, whatever you want. Who plays kafka . Who saw kafka . Who ever saw kafka . laughter . Asking the tough questions. Chris brown, i mean you wouldnt let one of your daughters go out with him. Absolutely not. You would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me . Absolutely singing i take lipitor, thats it. Are you improving your lips . laughter . When shes talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. It looks like Anthony Wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. His what in the ring . His hat. Always outspoken, joy behar. And the best part is that current will let me say anything. What the hell were they thinking . Only on current tv. Its a Beautiful Day dont let it get away stephanie what . Im here. Im prepared. Whats your point . Six minutes after the hour. Happy monday, everybody. 1800steph12 the phone number. Toll free from anywhere. Stephaniemiller. Com the web site. You can email us all there, chris lavoie, jim ward. Before we lots of big news obviously, nsa, all of that stuff. However, more importantly, nancy in ohio says omg, thanks to listening to a steph cast, only 4. 95 a month, and then taking a shower that sound of trying to get the last drops of shampoo out of my bottle will never sound the same. It sounds exactly like turtle sex. Eh, eh. Stephanie you dont want to wait. Just that last little i apologize for that. [ applause ] wow stephanie all right. She thought of this when she was in the shower. It sounded like someone elses faucet . Stephanie right. The guy didnt repair his faucet correctly. Thats how it sounds when he needs water. All right. In the meantime, because we should just start monday, we should start the week with some weirdness. Yeah . Stephanie Rocky Mountain mike for some reason has decided to combine turtle sex, dana loesch, cody the screaming dog and barry white. Why not . Because he can. Stephanie thats weird. [dana loesch screaming] wow. Like having sex with Mitch Mcconnell. Stephanie wheres cody . There he is. Wow wow okay. Stephanie this is saying something but of all of the weird things Rocky Mountain mike has sent us, thats the weirdest. Thats the weirdest. Lets hear it for the boy lets give the boy a hand stephanie wow all right then. So i knew [ nbc nightly news ] yesterday on meet the press, what do you call it . Gregory, noted tool says does this mean that Edward Snowden has won . Okay. Yes, hes won fabulous prizes stephanie right. A lifetime supply of borsch maybe. Stephanie the president obviously and again, weve said this over and over again. Should stuff be looked at, yes. But the president said exactly what i thought. Obama i dont think snowden was a patriot. As i said in my opening remarks, i called for a thorough review of our surveillance operations before mr. Snowden made these leaks. I think we would have gotten to the same place and we would have done so without putting at risk our National Security. And would have done it lawfully. Stephanie theres that. Anyway, so i knew because i knew i was going to get emails about oh, see, the president snowden was right and all right, Something Like that. Actually, i have one hate letter. Can i have some hate letter music. It is from michael. Subject line how does it really smell. Do obamas [ bleep ] smell like cookies and his [ bleep ] smell like cream . Wake up, stupid. Obama is leftist . Stephanie i dont okay. Shes calling snowden a traitor and shes a leftist . Political dyslexia. Thats michelles job. Stephanie thanks for your inquiry. By the by, so did we post this . Yes. Stephanie i thought it was an interesting piece in the l. A. Times oped by see if we can get him on. A former intelligence guy, director of the what national whatever. Ill find it. [ battle hymn of republic ] stephanie National Security agency. Nsa. There you go. Stephanie andrew lightman, l. A. Times, what did Edward Snowden get wrong . Everything. I was talking to a friend about this weekend when the president spoke on friday. Its like he leaked stuff to the chinese and the russians. How does that make him a patriot . I agree with the president. About what . We dont know. Stephanie honestly, jim, i still get concerned about, you know, it may be way above my pay grade but im concerned about security, too. I think that what the president said well, here. Lets listen to a little more of the president. Obama its true. We have a significant capabilities. Whats also true is we show a restraint that many governments around the world dont even think to do. Refuse to show. That includes, by the way, some of americas most vocal critics. We shouldnt forget the difference between the ability of our government to collect Information Online under strict guidelines and for narrow purposes than the willingness of some other governments to throw their own citizens in prison for what they say online. Stephanie talking to you, putin. Were not there. Stephanie right. [ battle hymn of republic ] im with alan grayson. Stephanie what did Edward Snowden get wrong . Everything. Andrew lightman in the l. A. Times. We posted this up at Stephanie Miller facebook. Snowden is out of his limbo. I hope the food is lousy, the winter is cold and the Internet Access is awful. It is russia. Youre pretty much guaranteed all three of those. Stephanie i worry more about the damage snowden has done and could still do to strike the right balance between privacy and security. I do, too. He says those following snowden should understand two key points. First, though many things need to be kept secret in todays dangerous world, the line between secret and not secret is stark. The harsh truth is we should often err more toward secrets than fewer. The u. S. Government truly does make efforts not to violate privacy, not just because it respects privacy, goes toward what the president was just saying but it doesnt have time to read irrelevant emails connected to possible plots against american civilians. Incidents like the snowden a i fair but my colleagues in an impossible situation. Yet the official explanations about the virtues of Data Collection can sound selfjustifying and vague but theyre still right. I know firsthand that general Keith Alexander the nsa director is telling the truth when he talks about the plots preempt and attacks that have been foiled because of the intelligence his agency collected. I know because i was on the inside. Ive long held security clearances and ive participated in many of the activities he describes. I spent years to identify, dissen tangle and attack alqaeda. We operated in the dark because we had to. Allied da and its affiliates learned from our mistakes. We made a point of understanding their message better than they understand ours. Ive admitted to this bias. Do i trust this more because obama is president . Do i trust it more when al franken and Dianne Feinstein say it . Yes this is one point of view i think is valid. He says i understand the tradeoffs here. But the Intelligence Community isnt keeping things from the American People because we dont trust them but once important security information is out there, they can do us arm. Al franken made this point. It isnt it doesnt fall necessarily on partisan lines. He said thats why i find the snowden controversy so frustrating. I realize Many Americans dont trust their government. I wish i could change that and tell people the Amazing Things i witnessed during my 30 years in the c. I. A. Ive never seen people work harder for that little money and long hours. People took it for granted their flaws would be scrutinized, successes ignored but ive been around along to know that government is immune to stories like me. The conspiracy buff. Too busy howling in protest at the thought that their government could uncover how long they spent on the phone with their dear aunt. The government is not interested in your conversations with your aunt unless of course shes a key terrorist leader. More than 100 billion emails were sent every day. In that vast mass of data, many are not of interest. I think the president made the analogy, all of the data in the world is a basketball court. What the nsa collects is the size of a dime. But it still so far. Stephanie jeremy bash said if youre looking for a needle in a haystack, you need a haystack. Weve spent enormous amounts of time figuring out the specs of data. He took it upon himself, the authority to decide what trade craft the Intelligence Community needs to keep his fellow citizens safe. The Intelligence Community always a less than pathetic protag nays actually has a good story to dell about how seriously the government takes privacy issues we should tell it anyway, so. [ applause ] i just thought that was really from somebody on the inside. Somebody from the inside who wants more access to more data. Stephanie he doesnt now. He comes from the point of the view of the organization that wants the access of the data. Stephanie i understand. What im saying is the president has said obviously they were look at this before this whole thing happened with snowden. We arrived at probably the same place we would have without spilling our secrets to the entire world including the russians, the chinese and terrorists and god knows who else. All right. More crunchy audio goodness from the president and much more as we continue, 17 minutes after the hour. It is the Stephanie Miller show. I dont know what that means but i like the sound of it. Announcer its the Stephanie Miller show. You must be high. I think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. I think the audience gets that i actually mean it. Youre putting out there something that youre proud of. Journalists want the the story and they want the right story and the want the true story. You can say anything here. I spent a couple of hours with a hooker. Your mistake was writing a check. She never cashed it the war room. Compared to other countries with tighter gun safety laws, our death toll is just staggering. The young turks. The top bankers who funneled all the money to the drug lords, no sentence. Theres just no justice in that. Viewpoint. Carl rove said today that mitt romney is a lock to win next pope. Hes garunteeing it. Joy behar say anything. Is the bottom line then that no white person should ever, ever, ever use the n word . Yes only on current tv. c] current tv is the place for true stories. With Award Winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines. Real, gripping, current. Documentaries. On current tv. Bowwow yo yippee yo, yippee yay stephanie it is the Stephanie Miller show. Welcome to it. 21 minutes after the hour. 1800steph12 the phone number. Hoy in new jersey, youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Caller hello . Stephanie hi, hoy. Go ahead. Caller hi. Sorry about that. Stephanie thats all right. Caller i have a question. I agree completely with you wholeheartedly and the person who wrote stephanie the editorial in the l. A. Times. Caller okay, yes. I agree with that completely. What i do not understand is the german to your left. Stephanie jim ward. Politically and physically. Stephanie yes. Go ahead. Caller what i do not understand is people like them. Talk about people on the right who live in a bubble. I think they do, too. They live in this false bubble. Its like terrorists are i dont know if they think theyre ingettent or incompetent or theyre not quite as smart but these are very smart, geniuslike people. And we cannot take that for granted. They do not apply their terrorist activities to what our quoteunquote constitution says. Your quoteunquote constitution. The constitution is pretty cutanddried. Caller number one, im black so the constitution when i look at it, see, i dont want to go there with you on the constitution. When i look at it, i do not think it applies to us. Thats what im talking about. So therefore, you look at the constitution, i dont think it carries look at it going as if, well, we cant do that because their constitution we wont do that. The point is that were destroying the constitution from within. Were ignoring the Fourth Amendment. The Fourth Amendment is pretty much dead. Caller name me the time that the constitution has ever stood for all americans. So we should just throw it out. Caller i think that we should revise it. It is pretty hard to revise. Caller well, im sorry. Stephanie hoy, i think youre expressing the same concern i have between security and what do you call it . Im blanking out. I know what youre saying. And i dont know. Im just saying, i think it is a debate worth having. When people say is it just because you trust obama . Yes caller me, too. Stephanie partially. The president on friday. Obama the men and women of our Intelligence Community work every single day to keep us safe because they love this country and believe in our values. Theyre patriots. And i believe that those who have lawfully raised their voices on behalf of privacy and Civil Liberties are also patriots who love our country. This is how were going to resolve our differences in the United States through vigorous public debate guided by our constitution with reverence for our history as a nation of laws and with respect for the facts. And throwing out the Fourth Amendment to the constitution. Stephanie for gods sake, really . You said lawfully, too. You said if we can do it lawfully. The president said if Edward Snowden thinks what he did is right, like any other american, check back and face a court of law. Exactly. He needs to come back and face a court of law. Stephanie but hes not going to. No, hes not going to. Stephanie he thinks what he did was right he should also follow the Fourth Amendment lawfully. Stephanie thats what the president was talking about. Thats what hes looking at. You know, jim for you to go during the break, the c. I. A. Has done a lot of terrible things. Right. But does that mean theres not a lot of patriots and hardworking people . Of course there are. Absolutely. But you shouldnt just turn a blind eye to some of the awful things theyve done as well. Stephanie im not. And i think that again, does it make a difference whos at the top . When george w. Bush was ordering then this makes a huge difference. Frank in l. A. , youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Hi, frank. Caller you know, it is not surprising that the government spies on you but the problem is that they privatized it. Why would they pay a private company to do this and you dont even know what theyre doing with the information. The only allegiance is to the ceo and the stockholders. That is probably the biggest thing that snowden did was break stephanie we shouldnt be giving jackalopes like him access to security. Caller it is obscene. They dont make a profit. Stephanie right. Caller and you have people that are dedicated when they work for the government, theyre dedicated because they want their pensions. They want to retire. Stephanie thats the point you made, chris. First of all, i feel like greenwald used him. He put him up to this. He didnt go into this job to serve and now Snowden Stephanie he did this to leak all of this stuff and yeah, exactly. Meanwhile, greenwald is sitting comfortably wherever he is. Stephanie kevin in iowa, youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Hello, kevin. Caller hello. My point is we forget that snowden is working for booze allen, not working for the u. S. Government. Were looking at we should be blaming the company that let us down. It is like private prisons or whatever. These guys are working for booz allen. They think what booz allen is doing is wrong then what the government is doing is wrong. We make them the bad guys as opposed to investigating the company that let these secrets go because it wasnt him. It was the company that let it go and were the one giving billions of dollars. He did wrong, yes. But lets investigate what this company is doing. Stephanie i agree. The whole private prisons thing is really heinous where they have a financial stake in creating more clients for the prisons and making things illegal. Stephanie which, by the way, also what eric holder is doing. Well talk about that. Chuck in ride hoe, youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Hi, chuck. Caller i agree with jim, too. Were not sitting in the seat that these whistleblowers have sat in and had access to the buttons that they could push and access information. It would scare the bejeebers out of them that caused them to release this information. And we dont nobodys addressing what are we going to do to prevent this types of things like at booz allen or stephanie thats the key that we keep talking about. That was the first question everybody had about this. How does a guy like this get access. Or a private company like that. Who answers to nobody except for their shareholders. This ties into the whole Koch Brothers thing. The privatization of everything. And monetization. Putting top secret information into the hands of private citizens who are not government employees. Stephanie and might have other agendas like Glen Greenwalds. Scott in charlotte, youre obtain the Stephanie Miller show. Caller hi, steph. Long time, first time. Theres a lot of controversy over people and their Internet Access and their email and people are all up in arms about whats going on in the world today. I dont think people really understand how the internet works. When you log into any system, it reads whats on your computer, your ip address, which computer it is just for the internet to work. When you send an email, people complain i dont want it read. It is like sending a postcard through the Postal Service and someone reading the back of it. Stephanie i signed up for netflix. Ive pretty much given up all of my amendments but it was worth it to watch house of cards. If you want to send a picture of your grandkid to aunt tillingly you dont have a reasonable expectation of privacy. Stephanie rude pundit next on the Stephanie Miller show. If you believe in states rights but still support the drug war you must be high. Viewpoint digs deep into the issues of the day. Do you think there is any chance well ever hear the president even say the word carbon tax . With an opened mind. Has the time finally come for real Immigration Reform . And a distinctly satirical point of view. But you mentioned great leadership so i want to talk about donald rumsfeld. laughter cutting throught the clutter of todays top stories. This is the savior of the Republican Party . I mean really . With a unique perspective. Teddy rosevelt was a weak asmatic kid who never played sports until he was a grown up. laughter . And lots of fancy buzz words. Family values, speding, liberty, economic freedom, hardworking moms, crushing debt, cute little puppies. If Wayne Lapierre can make up stuff that sounds logical while making no sense. Hey, so can i. Once again friends, this is live tv and sometimes these things happen. Watch the show. Only on current tv. Did anyone tell the pilgrims they should selfdeport . No, they said make us a turkey and make it fast. laughter . She gets the comedians laughing. Thats the best thats hilarious. And the thinkers thinking. Okay, so there is wiggle room in the Ten Commandments is what youre telling me. Shes joy behar. Ya, i consider you jewtalian. Okay, whatever you want. Who plays kafka . Who saw kafka . Who ever saw kafka . laughter . Asking the tough questions. Chris brown, i mean you wouldnt let one of your daughters go out with him. Absolutely not. You would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me . Absolutely singing i take lipitor, thats it. Are you improving your lips . laughter . When shes talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. It looks like Anthony Wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. His what in the ring . His hat. Always outspoken, joy behar. And the best part is that current will let me say anything. What the hell were they thinking . Only on current tv. A news report from Stephanie Miller. We havent had one of those since they canceled passions. This should be good. Stephanie it is the Stephanie Miller show. Welcome to it. 34 minutes after the hour. 1800steph12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. Lee papa rude pundit ooh, papa, papa who stephanie good morning, papa. Good morning. I do have to throw in here on one of the things you talked about uhoh. I once saw two giant tortoises having sex stephanie uhhuh. It was quite a sight. It was one that just took the other one from behind, moving slowly but the one on top looked so into it. Its mouth was open. It drooled. And i felt like and it gets airborne, too. Like the entire front section is up in the air. It is. It was remarkable. And the sound was a little deeper than the one you played. Stephanie i did not realize i dont mean to weigh in on the controversies. Stephanie sorry. I didnt know you were such a turtle sex aficionado. You have video of that by any chance . Stephanie please, weigh in on it because im sure we differ on the nsa stuff and what the president said. Oh, you know, my you know, if you want to go happy clappy on the press conference, i would rather talk about him smacking around the republicans on healthcare and immigration. Stephanie i know. Were going to talk to jacki about that next hour. He really did, didnt he . He put it more concisely and i think better than he ever has. I think so. There is your 2014 campaign. How many times did, you know, did representative x vote to prevent 30 Million People from Getting Health Insurance . Stephanie salon has a great piece, rude but it is about really that it was tougher for the president to seize this debate until now because this is exactly what were saying. This wasnt in place yet. Now that it is and people are seeing the benefits, you know, hes able to seize control of the debate in a way that, you know, i just say i think youre right. It was a smackdown of the republicans. It really was. It was also that you know, i just i feel like it is putting a stark relief the fact that the reason republicans are scared of obamacare is that they believe its going to work. And that if it works, you know, their whole governing philosophy is kind of screwed. Stephanie yeah. Can you imagine every morning like another state has another headline about premiums going down . You know. And we got a call last week. From a former republican who said, you know, obamacare has saved my life. My wife and i would have been bankrupt if x, y and z. Thats their worst nightmare. It is. Those are the stories that will be paraded out is, you know, i was able to get treatment for cancer because of obamacare. Stephanie the overreaching is so great because hes able to say they want to shut down the government over trying to keep 30 Million People from Getting Health Insurance. Yep, yep. I mean theyre putting themselves into an ideological corner and obama and hopefully the democrats will follow him on this because they havent before. But hopefully theyll follow him into keeping him in the corner. Stephanie lets talk about your piece why ann coulter and bill oreilly are c words. One of my more favorite posts lately, may i just say. Thank you. Stephanie well and the fun fact thats in here that tokyo tank attack is one of rude pundits favorite new sexual positions. Well, you know, when you spend as much time, you know look at porn as i do stephanie right. You come across some of the strange fringes that involve turtles and other things. Stephanie all right. Good to know. I dont think it involves tanks. Something just tells me. Stephanie it is amazing. I watched this, too. Bill oreilly. Oreilly shortly after the verdict acquitting zimmerman. Single black mothers are to blame for black crime by black youths. [ scoobydoos huh . ] stephanie this was more than one day topic . Oh, yeah. This was where, you know, like don on cnn weighed in, supporting oreilly and it also caused a bit of an uproar. But yeah. You know, the fact that they that oreilly did this and ann coulter agreed with him without giving any credence to the idea that institutional or social racism may play a role or may have played a role is just it just puts the whole thing to a lie. Stephanie yeah. And while you said at this point to say bill oreilly says something ignorant ond racist is like saying bill oreilly took a breath. He blames the Entertainment Industry for making thugs look glamorous which is something they never did in the early days of the flicks. They never made highliving gangsters look cool. Top of the world all of the films about italian mobsters it is not like say a lot of the a lot of people in gangs go around with scar face shirts which is exactly what they do. They worship that movie which is about cuban gangsters. Stephanie exactly. You said coulter praises oreilly for speaking truth. She gives a bunch of history statistics about how Lyndon Johnson ruined everything. In my family he did. But thats entirely different story. It is amazing. He just has preme on to support his thesis, right . With a bunch of thats it. Hes had screaming fights with some of even people like kristin powers who is somewhat left of the fox news line. But barely. Hell get into screaming matches with them over things. And just, you know, i guess you cant get your point in by rhetoric, you have to use a jackhammer on some somebodys head. Stephanie you write a piece about mark thiessen. He said because people dont trust president obama because of the i. R. S. Scandal quoteunquote, National Security will be harmed because Congress Might have rules governing nsa surveillance. You say if your reaction to that polling twist of irrationality isnt a [ bleep ], youre an idiot. I get upset about rude, there are people predictably on tv that will go on meet the press and whatever the story line is, president obama bad. Thats the one theyre going to find, right . Exactly. And theyre going to hang on to it. It was funny. This weekend, i went to a fair in new jersey. I walked past the tea party tent that was set up there. The local tea party tent. I told the people i was with oh, im going in and so i go in and this guy comes up to me and shakes my hand and he says so, do you agree with the tea party . And i said not really. And you know, didnt want to alienate him right off the bat. He said what about nsa surveillance . I said okay, yes, there is one thing we can agree on. The very next moment, he goes to and what about that i. R. S. Scandal . Oh, god he starts telling me about you know, they targeted Tea Party Organizations and they you know, they even asked people what books they read. They wanted book reports. Book reports they did not. Oh, my god from people. This is the head of the local tea party, what hes telling people that come into their tent. Stephanie yeah. It was very shortly after that, i looked outside the tent and said hey, the people im with are waving at me. Stephanie gotta go. If they try to spread lies like that, no wonder it is so easy to take them down when they call in. Because we baffle them with facts. Thats the thing is i said well, you know, actually, the bush white house, you know, they used the i. R. S. To target people. Bush white house started the nsa surveillance and theyll say oh, but the tea party wasnt around in the Bush Administration. I just wanted to say it is not all about you stephanie exactly right. Thats the thing. Once again, to me, under the busch administration, i mean that was political targeting whether it was i cant remember the church out here that was antiwar. You can go on and on, right, rude . Joseph wilson. Men can deliberately destroy someones career and credibility. Yeah. There was direct political targeting. I mean you know, we can argue over what the nsa is doing and i think you and i the point of agreement that we have is that these things do need review and they do need some kind of oversight and that, you know, what obama announced sounds like a great direction to go in. Stephanie right. But rude, thats what im saying. There are some people like that that are antigovernment crazies, whoever they are. My point is the government quoteunquote, it operates differently depending on whos running it. Fema ran great under bill clinton. Under george w. Bush, not so much. Jim brought up the c. I. A. Well, yeah, when cheney and bush are ordering this tomorrow torture, what theyre doing is not so great. I think the president has made, you know, more efforts than certainly any other administration has in this regard. Right. [ laughter ] in some of the areas. Again, in some of the things he discussed in the press conference, some of the unilateral disarmament of some of the powers by actually having some kind of oversight, thats great. But thats not stephanie right. And the Bush Administration would never have done that. You know what i mean . At least this president looks at stuff and really does try to be fair about it. Well, no. If there is one thing about the Obama Administration is when somebody brings up a concern, they address it and especially when someone who is on sensibly supporting the Obama Administration, the Bush Administration used to dismiss it outright. Oh, deficits arent a problem. What are you talking about . A deficit . Or simply saying that or simply painting you as a traitor. So you know, im glad that, you know, obama didnt go that far. If it had been the Bush Administration, it wouldnt have just been that Edward Snowden is not a patriot. It would have been hes a traitor and well be gitmoing him soon. Stephanie exactly. Rudeness, some great rude stuff including the whole tokyo tank thing. Really great tool. Really good visual. Google probably exploded for people trying to look that up. Make sure safe search is off. I also just want to say real quick, i want to say to thank you for having me on current tv. Im not leaving. I will be on the radio but also to say farewell to John Fuglesang and his show. Stephanie i know. Because that man is a mench and his show was a blast. Stephanie indeed. I know. Sad week here for current tv but as you say, the radio show will continue and well see you monday. All right, honey. Well have a new tv outlet to announce. Im not sure when. Follow us on facebook and go to and keep listening to the radio show either on the Stephanie Miller app or on tunein radio. Or on the wireless. Once we find out, well be announcing it incessantly. Stephanie 46 minutes after the hour. Right back on the Stephanie Miller show. Ive been stung by a bee or getting a splinter or something chained to a wall. Announcer its the Stephanie Miller show. John fugelsang if you believe in states rights but still support the drug war you must be high. Cenk uygur i think the number one thing viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. I think the audience gets that i actually mean it. Michael shure this show is about being up to date so a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i am given to doing anyway. Joy behar you can say anything here. Jerry springer i spent a couple of hours with a hooker joy behar your mistake was writing a check Jerry Springer she never cashed it vo the days events. Four very unique points of view. Tonight starting at 6 eastern. Current tv is the place for true stories. With Award Winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines. Real, gripping, current. Documentaries. On current tv. Just beat it, beat it beat it, beat it it doesnt matter whos from the right just beat it stephanie it is the Stephanie Miller show. This hour brought to you by identity guard. Making it okay to trust again. Go to identityguard. Com. 1800steph12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. The president on friday. Regarding the nsa stuff. Obama all of these steps are designed to ensure that the American People can trust that our efforts are in line with our interests and our values. Stephanie all right. Lets go to jay in chicago on this very same subject. Hello, jay. Hi, jay. Caller hello stephanie all right. Hi, jay. I silenced him, clearly. Caller how are you . Obama had three or four years to come clean with this. You wouldnt even be talking about this without snowden. You cant say he wants this conversation. You wouldnt even be having it unless somebody whistle blowed it. What do you have to say to that . That was funny. He does have a point. Stephanie how does he know that . Come on. I was just reading an article about stephanie yes . By alex jones . No. Stephanie glenn beck . Shut up. If you look at this honestly, i dont think we would be having this conversation without snowden. Stephanie lets go back to all right. Listen to the president. You tell me again. Obama i dont think mr. Snowden was a patriot. As i said in my opening remarks, i called for a thorough review of our surveillance operations before mr. Snowden made these leaks. I actually think we would have gotten to the same place and we would have done so without putting at risk our National Security. Stephanie the president s lying . The president is lying . I dont think that he would have gone public with it. Stephanie by the way, blowed is not a word, guy from chicago. The people in the Intelligence Committee have financial ties to the Intelligence Industry and they stephanie okay so al franken is wrong, Dianne Feinstein is wrong . Anybody who says that is wrong . Alan grayson has been trying to get to the bottom of stuff and has been stonewalled. But oh, now you dont like alan grayson anymore. Stephanie i love alan grayson. Ive said maybe times many times, hes a personal friend of mine. I dont know what youre implying. We need people like alan grayson. There is a lot of stuff that he knows wont get passed but you know, he does it to shine a light on stuff. Im obviously supporting him in a lot of it. Grayson says he were to back similar legislation that rand paul was odd. Talking about in the house adding that surveillance programs are fundamentally inconsistent with what america is all about. Stephanie rand paul is okay. Thats alan grayson talking. Stephanie dutch roughers berger. Talking about how do we educate the public. That we need this program. Stephanie lets go to gayle in sacramento. Youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Hi, gayle. Caller hi, stephanie, the conversation is just really black and white on this when its gray, it is actually gray. The president is responsible for whole National Security. I cant imagine what that is. You know. What that responsibility is like. So when he asks for additional funding for benghazi, hes turned down. Benghazi happens. We have how many, you know, so hes damned if he does stephanie then when he closes the embassies, hes accused of he did that because caller cowardice. Always weak on National Security. Thats how it will be will always be painted. Nobody is happy with the surveillance. Nobody is happy but what happens if youre given the job and you back something off or you dont pay for something that you asked for and something happens. Then you get benghazi gate. And you are put under a sign. Who will be the guy thats going to say okay, were going to cut this program . Stephanie i hear you. Under a frying pan would be in the fire. Stephanie under a microscope . Im not sure what she meant. Al in buffalo. Caller lets not make the same mistake we made in 2010 complaining about the public option. Are you listening . We dont have the political power to complain about nsa surveillance. Weve got bridges to fix. Weve got roads to fix. We need theres like how many bills still sitting on a shelf right now . Ill say this to my dismal allies, we cant allow green glen wald and edward snowed ton distract us from winning back the house. If the republicans get control of the executive branch, there isnt going to be a fisa court. There wont be any regulations. As a matter of fact, you can kiss the American Dream goodbye because theyre going to do whatever they want with the executive branch. Stephanie really . Are we at the same place as we were under george bush . Im just talking about the jim, who would you rather have . Come on. Obviously i want democrats in control. Okay. Well, we cant allow you know what i mean . I understand that. A lot of people in the Intelligence Committees have have financial ties to intelligence companies. Caller i think this it is a right wing conspiracy. Glen greenwald is not exactly someone you can trust. I agree with you there. Stephanie he made the story more about him. He was quoting last week, it was like the breathtaking arrogance thinking this is all because of him. You know. Anyway. Hes an ass. Stephanie Edward Snowdens father. Really . My son has spoken the truth. He has sacrificed more than either the president of the United States or peter king have ever and the political careers or their american lives. Stephanie really. Hes a hero and a patriot and the president is not. Okay. Go ahead. The Intelligence Committee exercised primary oversight of the nsa but the committees are, with the exception of a handful of members and the Intelligence Community generally. They receive much larger contributions from the defense and Surveillance Industries than noncommittee members. Feinstein, mike rogers and whose district includes nsa quarters near fort meade and the Intelligence Industry cash. They have a financial incentive to do the nsas bidding. Thats not really oversight. Stephanie right but okay, so youre saying that Dianne Feinstein, al franken, they dont care about america . Dont care about keeping americans safe as well . Not saying that. Saying some of the contributions they may get from the intelligence may blind them somewhat. Stephanie 58 minutes after the hour. Jacki schechner joins us next. We have the president bitch slapped the republicans on obamacare. That we can agree on. Stephanie Jacki Schechner next on the Stephanie Miller show. [ theme ] stephanie current tv land, hour number two, Jacki Schechner, well dobbing a healthcare corner coming up. But of course our spinning class, someone has sent us we may have gotten this before. But because our listeners are helpers, a Sex Toy Company based in the u. K. Has released a new sexvention, the happy ride, a vibrating bike seat cover. Oh, goodness. I read that women go to the exercise classes specifically for the orgasmic effects of it. Really . What conspiracy web site did you get that from . Alex jones report. Stephanie i know what im getting Jacki Schechner for christmas. It is called the happy ride. Im good. Thanks. Stephanie it comes with a discreet control to either raise or lower the vibration. Because nobody in class would notice that. Stephanie the music is loud enough. They might not. We do ride by candlelight. It does set an ambience. What . Candlelight . Stephanie and theres good chardonnay. Jacki schechner in the current news center. Good morning. Senator Chuck Schumer saying this morning that instead of boycotting the Olympic Games this winter, nations should wave rainbow flags during the Opening Ceremony to show their opposition to russias new antigay legislation. Not a bad idea. Schumer proposed the plan this morning adding the protest move would sufficiently embarrass Vladimir Putin but still allow the athletes to compete. During his press conference on friday, president obama also dismissed the idea of a boycott. If russia doesnt have gay or lesbian athletes, then this probably will make their team weaker. One of the things im looking forward to is maybe some gay and lesbian athletes bringing home the gold, silver or bronze. A federal judge in new york has just ruled the nypds stop and frisk tactics are a violation of tens of thousands of new yorkers constitutional rights. The judge says that officers have been stopping and searching people on the streets for years without any significant reason to suspect wrongdoing and those actions are in viles of the fourth and 14th amendment. The 4th amendment protecting against unreasonable search and seizure. The judge will assign an outside lawyer to make sure the Police Department complies with the law Going Forward. The twomonth nonjury trial examined the results of 4. 43 million stops over the course of eight years. Were back after the break. Minutes were going to do the young turks i think the number 1 thing than viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. They know that im not bsing them for some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. When the democrats are wrong, they know im going to be the first one to call them out. Cenk on air whats unacceptable is how washington continues to screw the middle class over. Cenk off air i dont want the middle class taking the brunt of the spending cuts and all the different programs that wind up hurting the middle class. Cenk on air you got to go to the local level, the state level and we have to fight hard to make sure they cant buy our politics anymore. Cenk off air and they can question if im right about that. But i think the audience gets that, i actually mean it. Cenk on air 3 trillion dollars in spending cuts narrator uniquely progressive and always topical, the Worlds Largest online news show is on current tv. Cenk off air and i think the audience gets, this guys to best of his abilities is trying to look out for us. Only on current tv its a Beautiful Day dont let it get away stephanie it is the Stephanie Miller show. Welcome to it. Six minutes after the hour. 1800steph12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. Where is my little friend, Jacki Schechner joins us now. Schechner again stephanie good morning, nurse jacki. Good morning. Stephanie i know what im getting you by the way at the top of the hour, the happy ride which is a actually, it is a bike seat cover for spinning class. And it has a little vibrator in the middle of the seat. Yeah, thats not something that i think i would like to have. Stephanie 37 or priceless. [ laughter ] stephanie just saying. Could i move it from my hybrid road bike to my spinning bike . Stephanie exactly. I think it is a seat cover. It is portable. Can we get back to this riding in candlelight thing . Stephanie oh, yes, there is am beons in our spinning class. It is dark and there are candles. The idea is it is not about looking at each other. Does the Fire Department know about this . Stephanie they do now. It is insane. The idea is theres no judgment. Youre riding essentially in the dark. What does it do to the oxygen in the room . It sucks all of the oxygen out of the room. Youre breathing in pure co2. Youre breathing in wick smoke. Naysayers or sucking all of the oxygen out of the room. Stephanie i think it is dark so the nsa can rifle through your gym bag. Theyre going through all of the lockers. Stephanie Jacki Schechner, how about that bitch slap the president gave republicans on obamacare. Here he is friday. Obama my friends in the other party have made the idea of preventing these people from getting healthcare their holy grail. Their number one priority. The one unifying principal. Stephanie youve said this all along, jacki. It was hard to seize control of this debate until it started actually kicking in, right . Thats the problem is it took a long time to implement because were talking about a heavy lift here. We knew it was going to be awhile before everything could snap into place. It is going to be a moving moving along the process will continue. Were not going to get everything up and running perfectly right off the bat. But now that were starting to see some of the positive effects and the news stories coming out about how much premiums could drop and how many people are going to have access to healthcare, Health Insurance at least, that didnt have it before. The president is now, i think is getting stronger which is nice. Unfortunately, were still getting all of the rumors and the myths and people are sending me notes asking me to debunk the craziness thats still out there. But it is nice at least to see the president coming out strongly saying what he is. Stephanie i sent you his piece in salon, how obama turned obamacare into a weapon. But thats what they were saying after friday. He actually flipped the script on republicans who remain on be saysed with repealing it. This is the president again friday. President obama on friday. Here he is. Oh, shoot. Stephanie or maybe not. Okay. Obama at least they used to say, were going to replace it with something better. There is not even a pretense theyre going to replace it with something better. Ive been hearing about this replace thing for two years. Now i just dont hear about it because basically they dont have an agenda to provide Health Insurance to people. There never was a replacement. Never along the way was there a replacement. They just wanted to repeal it. Thats been the rhetoric. Stephanie also, i think it is good that he really like stayed on point. He said all of the benefits i just mentioned, kids staying on their parents plan, seniors getting discounts, the return to insurance, people with preexisting conditions being blocked from Getting Health Insurance. It benefits us politically theyre going to the extreme of saying theyre going to shut the government down over trying to keep 30 Million People from getting the benefits. Yeah, thats as simple as it is. Ive been thinking about this a lot lately. I would love to know what exactly it is that people object so strongly to. I think instead of coming out with the talking points weve been hearing over and over again and people say it is obamacare and it is a governmentrun program and death panel. What specifically do you think is in there that youre objecting to so vehemently . Because i dont think anybody has any idea, any of the people who were against it. Frankly, at this point, im starting to think some of the republican lawmakers dont have any idea whats in it. Stephanie right. Also, the salon piece goes to same thing youve always said. A year ago, two years ago, the laws core benefits were abstractions. There wasnt a lot of margin in defending them because they werent part of peoples lived experiences. This is what theyre afraid of. Salon writes, it is all about to change. Uninsurance rates are about to drop quickly. Repeal will take on a much different meaning. And i think thats exactly what were seeing as we see one headline after another from one state after another. Thats exactly what they fear. Yeah, there is an often misquoted sound byte from nancy pelosi awhile back before we passed the healthcare people where people like to say we need to pass it so we can see whats in it. Thats how it is misquoted. I went back and i watched the original press conference where she made the remarks and what she was saying in context, if you watch it, is that once we pass the law and people see whats in it, none of the rumors or rhetoric will have the traction they do now. Stephanie right. If you go back and watch the clip in its entirely, thats exactly what she says but the snippet has been taken out of context and circulated widely over the last few years and people quote pelosi as saying you need to pass it so we know whats in it, using that as an argument to say nobody read the bill. Theyre going to pass it under the cloak of midnight and secrecy of the dark. So i would advise people to just go back and if youre hearing the same things over and over again, to just take a look at the root of them. A lot of times, theyve been so distorted over the last few years, they hold no credibility. They never did in the first place. But they hold no water or credibility anymore and when your friends are saying that this is the case, i would go back and take a look at the origins because i was surprised when i heard that originally and i went back and looked and said thats not what she said at all. Stephanie what shes saying more importantly goes to the point of exactly what were saying now is this is exactly whats happening. Once people are living and seeing what the benefits are, this is exactly when the president can seize the debate. I think he really did friday, right . Right. Yes. I wish he had done it sooner. I really do. Im a Firm Believer of theres no benefit of compromising in public and theres no benefit in seceding ground to the other side. I think democrats being weak on healthcare reform and the president not being as strong on it as he possibly could all along has been problematic. Stephanie it is a little ridiculous democrats ran against it and now theyre going to run oh, no, no, i was always behind obamacare it is really stupid. I wish they had bothered to take a look at the details and realized what they were allegedly running against because i just dont think that the people who are screaming the loudest know necessarily what theyre screaming about it. Is the whole government hands off my medicare. Stephanie thank you, queen segue because the headline about john boner is the mistake so nice he made it twice. For the second time in less than a week, speaker boner sent out a link on his twitter account which claimed one thing while exposing another. He tweeted a link to a story from South Carolina which proclaims rates will rise 50 to 70 blah, blah, blah. It is completely inaccurate. How about 1,000 . I think hes counting on people not reading. I would imagine unless hes just that accidentprone. Stephanie right. But i think he is probably counting on people not clicking through. You know, the other thing i think is important to note in the wake of the howard dean editorial and some of the questions people are asking is just because people who support the Affordable Care act have concerns with it or questions about it doesnt mean that theyre against it altogether. The unions have some issues with it. And some im sure some corporations have some issues with it. I mean everybody does, right . It is not perfect. Were talking about a huge list to change our healthcare system. Stephanie uhoh. What happened to jacki . I blame snowden. Stephanie snowden has cut her line. She will call us back. I wanted to get her take, interesting in the same article about boner. Many of the republicancontrolled states have done all they can to try to sabotage the law driving up healthcare premiums because they dont want the law to work and theyre doing all this he can to ensure it doesnt while states like california, new york, oregon and washington are reporting premiums lower than expected because they allowed the law to work. Im curious how thats going to play out state to state. Thats exactly theyre going to say see, it doesnt work. Because they did everything they could to sabotage it. All right. Were getting jacki back. Lets jerry in los angeles. Youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Hi, jerry. Caller hi, good morning, steph. Stephanie good morning. Go ahead. Caller here is a major objection. If you live in Southern California like i do, los angeles, cedarssinai or ucla will not accept any of the plans on the exchange. You will not be able to get into cedarssinai or ucla if you buy your Healthcare Plan on the exchange. Stephanie on any of the companies on the exchange . Caller will not be accepted at cedarssinai ucla, they have said already. All of the benefits youre expressing, they werent given away for free. Everybodys premiums went up because kids under 26 are accepted. Stephanie premiums have gone down in california. Caller they have not gone down in california. Nobody listening to this station has had reduced premiums because of the new Healthcare Plan. Everybodys plans have gone up. Yeah, theyve given. Little bit of rebate every year but thats a fraction compared to how much healthcare premiums have gone up over the last four years. Stephanie thats not because of obamacare. Thats because of your Insurance Company. Right. Caller yeah, yeah stephanie hang on, jerry. Let me lock you down here. Let me lock jacki down. Jacki, i dont know if youre listening to jerry. He said peoples premiums have gone up. That has to do with the Insurance Companies raising the premiums to try to pad their profits before can anything goes into place. Caller no, theyve raised the premiums because now they have to cover people until 26. Now they have unlimited premiums. Thats absolutely untrue. Caller i see. So theyre giving away the extra benefits at no cost to them. Theyre just being a nice company and just going to give coverage until 26 because they want to. No. The number of kids allowed to stay on their parents plan until 26 does make that kind of a dent in the Insurance Companys premium expenditures. In addition to that, youre talking about young people who dont consume a lot of healthcare on average anyway. Okay, look, clearly premiums have gone up a lot. Maybe close to 50 first. Getting back to the ucla and cedarssinai the law hasnt gone into effect yet. Thats what you dont seem to understand. The law hasnt gone into effect yet. Parts went into effect. Insurance until 26 has gone into effect. Thats why companies are raising their premiums. No, its not. Thats not true. Thats your opinion. , no its not. It is a fact. I know the law incredibly well. Stephanie jacki, the other thing jerry was saying caller ucla and cedarssinai will not accept any of the plans on the exchange. Thats a fact. That will be a big problem. Most people who know, the two best Healthcare Programs in california. Where did you read this . I would love to see the article . Theyve announced it. They wont accept any of the Insurance Companies on the exchange. Why would that be . Because it will be so low to the hospital, they dont want to accept the plans. Wait. The plans arent the amount of reimbursement hasnt been announced in terms of how much theyre going to reimburse. Theyre regular Insurance Plans. The same Insurance Plans people are getting through their employer. It is the same companies. Theyre all private companies. Caller im a physician. Every Insurance Plan reimburses a different amount for different procedures to different facilities. Look it up. Ucla, cedarssinai will not accept the plans. I have to go right now. Im starting surgery. Youll call back tomorrow. Okay, jerry. Stephanie all right. I love how the surgeon calls the talk show. Stephanie interesting he had time for that. But he has to go scrub up now. Ive got no time. Im a physician. Im a physician that called into your radio show right before i go do surgery. Stephanie i had already called [ bleep ] on that call before he said going into surgery now. Can you hang on . We lost you there for a couple of minutes. One more block. 19 minutes after the hour. Right back with more jackis healthcare corner next on the Stephanie Miller show. Announcer i got her number off the mens room stall. 1800steph12. Current tv is the place for true stories. With Award Winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines. Real, gripping, current. Documentaries. On current tv. It. Stephanie miller. Do you like what you hear i know there aint nothing wrong with your ears stephanie it is the Stephanie Miller show. 24 minutes after the hour. Someone tweeted us that hello, im a physician who just stumbled upon your show as im a new Small Business owner. I like to listen to both sides. Nurse jacki is back with us again. [ hypnotic ] hello, Jacki Schechner. I want to make some remarks about the cedarssinai thing we were talking about before the break because ive done a little bit of research. Anything you read from betsy mccoy, you should dismiss as baloney. People are linking to a New York Post article. Shes been an opponent of healthcare reform since the clinton days. Shes totally dishonest. There is nothing you can hear from her that is of truth. Yes, but im a physician so you have to listen to me. Stephanie im getting ready for surgery and i must scrub up. [ hypnotic ] there is a report about cedarssinai saying that it is not going to accept Healthcare Plans that participate in the exchange. Thats a hospital decision. And if the hospital is choosing not to participate in that network or exchange, then thats up to the hospital to do that if it wants to. But i dont think it has anything to do with reimbursement rates because we dont know what these plans are going to reimbursement. The reason why costs have gone down is because the Insurance Companies have agreed to take a lower profit margin to participate in the exchange because they know theyll be getting more people, more customers. Stephanie lets get a couple more in here. Mike in atlanta, youre on with jacki. Go ahead, mike. Caller hi, there. Stephanie hi. Caller im and an anesthesiologist for the last guy who called in so i have to do this really quick. [ laughter ] stephanie i love it. Caller im from georgia and my beautiful governor is not putting us in the exchanges. Im 45 years old in good health. I want to get on the exchange. I want to be part of it. Not just for the insurance but to help them move along. What do i do . Is there going to be a National Plan for me . Do i just have to move . No. Dont move because i hear georgia is lovely. Caller no, you have no idea what its like down here. No idea. What i will say is the states that have chosen not to set up their own exchanges will have the federal government set up the exchange for them. It is great irony of the state lawmakers who want states rights. And dont want to participate. The default in the healthcare law is that the federal government will set up an exchange. When does that start, jacki . It will be open for enrollment beginning of october and it will be up and running for actual usage beginning of january like all of the other ones. And again, to make a point about the last guy, the reason the rates are going up since for years and years. Before there were discussions about obamacare. An average of 20 every year. Thats why i dont have insurance anymore, i couldnt afford it. It kept going up. The problem was even when the rates were going up, the copays were going up and you know, the outofpocket was going up. It wasnt like you were getting a better plan for more money. They were giving me less for the coverage. Thats why we felt we needed to do something. Absolutely. People dont seem to understand is that you couldnt leave the system the way it was because people it was more and more unaffordable and you werent getting any benefits for your money. I think people were complaining about what the exchange will and wont have, have to keep Something Else in mind. Were talking about people who otherwise have no access to medical care. Stephanie right. Very good point. Pat in tacoma, youre on with jacki. Caller i was listening to that guy from california. Hes full of it. [ laughter ] caller i have cousins down there and they have seen their Insurance Plans come down and theyre not on medicare yet. Im on medicare and i saw new stuff as of last year. I saw more stuff on medicare but i had a friend call me and told me how sorry she felt for me because obamacare was killing medicare and i had to set her straight. Well, thank you for doing that. It is important. Caller yeah, because stephanie im sorry, go ahead, jacki. It is important people do that because the reality is that were going to be fine. Everybody is going to be okay. What were doing is giving access to Health Insurance and thereby medical care, healthcare to people who otherwise wouldnt have it. Were not cutting medicare. There are no death panels. There are kinks in the system. Well work them out. Nobody is dying. Nobody is being shoved into a governmentrun program like Everyone Needs to calm down. Stephanie you heard it. Everyone calm the [ bleep ] down. Nurse jacki. Thank you, honey. Stephanie 29 minutes after the hour. Right back on the Stephanie Miller show. But still support the drug war, you must be high. I think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. I think the audience gets that i actually mean it. Youre putting out there something that youre proud of. Journalists want the the story and they want the right story and the want the true story. You can say anything here. I spent a couple of hours with a hooker. Your mistake was writing a check. She never cashed it the war room. Compared to other countries with tighter gun safety laws, our death toll is just staggering. The young turks. The top bankers who funneled all the money to the drug lords, no sentence. Theres just no justice in that. Viewpoint. Mitt romney is a lock to win next pope. Hes garunteeing it. Joy behar say anything. Is the bottom line then that no white person should ever, ever, ever use the n word . Yes only on current tv. Hey, in my day, women didnt make a sound. Stephanie 34 minutes after the hour. 1800steph12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. Cindy in michigan. Youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Hi, cindy. Caller hello. Stephanie hello. Caller hello, hello. I wanted to Say Something about the privatizing of our intelligence but i just wanted to make one comment about the healthcare because of the conversation i want to thank you for having jacki on because she puts those facts out there. Stephanie there is Nothing Better than her bitch slap fake physicians. Caller people out here think that obamacare is an it. I dont want to be on it. I always tell them it is not an it. There are all different plans depending on what you want to do, whats good for you. You will have a lot of choices. And theyre shocked when i tell them that. Stephanie yeah. Caller thats the thing about healthcare. I want to say but privatizing our intelligence, you know, thats been going on since way back when. And world war ii and korea. We used to have trw, that was one of those companies that gathered a ton of banking and credit reports and intelligence and collated all of that. The Rand Corporation which Robert Mcnamara actually came out of. Not only did they work that data, they also mentioned and they did polling and they manipulated data so that the vietnam war would go on longer which is what the pentagon papers were all about. And you know, when private corporations got their hands on this part of doing this kind of storage, theyre not really going to give that up easy. Stephanie yeah. Caller we can do all of the exposure i sometimes think Glen Greenwald and assange are working for the right wing corporations more i dont know about that. Caller the reason i say that give me a chance. I say that with a certain tongue in cheek. The reason i say that is because theyve already told us things that we know have been happening for a long time. There really isnt a lot of brand new stuff and the things that are getting out are very distracting from other things and i do agree with that one caller. We can shoot ourselves in the foot in this next offyear election and well have even more republicans in there. I know the democrats do take money from these corporations. Im always curious as to what percentage of their funds go there. Is it a ton of money . And theyre totally in their clutches . Or is it just because those corporations spread their money around like manure, everybody gets it . Stephanie i think thats closer to it. They spread it around like manure depending on who sits on what committee. Stephanie matt in san francisco. Youre on the the Stephanie Miller show. Hi, matt. Hello, matt. Matt, going once, going twice. Mark in delaware. Hello, mark. Caller hi. Stephanie go ahead. Caller i wonder if anybody caught priebus this weekend on cnn. He was being challenged about why republicans arent united on defeating obamacare and he said it was a tactical split and that we should be focusing more on why theres 30 democrats who dont like obamacare. I really couldnt follow what that was all about. What . Stephanie oh, no. I tuned in that interview in mid whine, mid Reince Priebus which is not good. Not the good kind of whining. Stephanie republicans are the ones ow nighted on repealing obamacare the democrats are i thought you were talking about mid whine on a sunday. Stephanie different kind of whine. Hang over from the other kind of wine is not a good time to tune into that kind of whine. Kevin on pennsylvania, youre on the the Stephanie Miller show. Caller hi, how are you guys . Stephanie good. Caller im an independent person. Stephanie you like to listen to both sides. Caller im listening on the news about the healthcare bill, about how congress is going to exempt themselves from this. [ buzzer ] can you guarantee me this is not going to happen . Stephanie yes, i can. Jacki debunked that point last week, as youll recall. If obamacare is so great, how come people on capitol hill dont want it . I believe jacki explained that whole thing. I think someone has obama derangement syndrome. Benghazi. We all live our lives and take our ability to understand reality. There he is. Meet skeeter. Hes the liar in chief. While the rest of us are told not to text and drive, skeeter struggles with basic motor skills. He has obama derangement syndrome. Many people thought a cure was near in 2012 but the skeeters of the world remind us we have so far to go. Do your part now by texting read a friggin book to any yahoo news comment. Stephanie miller is a race traitor. Together we can help the skeeters of world find their way out of their bubble and into our solar system. Help save a skeeter from hurting himself. [ applause ] stephanie oh, lord. Yeah, did you see harry reid is underfire for saying he hopes g. O. P. Hatred of obama is not because of racism. It goes to what cindy in michigan said. When you ask people about all of the provisions about obama care, they like them. Why are you against it . Uh, obama. They just hate i dont know whether it is racism. It is hilarious how they went crazy. Harry reid was on a Radio Station on friday. Hes talking about the unprecedented on structionism obstructionism. In response to callers questions about conservatives hoping for obamas failure, reid brought up Mitch Mcconnells oneterm for obama pledge and said that republicans opposing everything he does, i hope it is based on substance and not the fact hes an africanamerican. A spokesman for the republican blah, blah, blah, insane. [ cuckoo clock chimes ] insane that anyone would have implied there was racism. They seem to have gotten really defensive really quick. Stephanie just a couple of stories from the weekend. Reuters, here is a woman outside obama motorcade with the kenyan go home sign and a honk to impeach obama. Then theres the Missouri State fair. [ nbc nightly news ] did you hear about that this weekend . Oh, yes. Stephanie the rodeo clown was wearing an obama mask. Clown wearing a president obama mask appeared at a Missouri State rodeo this weekend. The announcer asked the enthusiastic spectators if they wanted to see obama run down by a bull. Nice. Stephanie to which everybody screamed and went wild lieutenantgovernor pete kinder denounced the performance in a tweet. He said it was disrespectful to the president. Were better than this, the republican tweeted. Computer says no. Stephanie actually, clearly, youre not. A spectator said everybody screamed when the announcer talked about having the bull run down the clown with the obama mask. Another one ran up to the obama mask and played with the lips on the mask. Get it . Because lips are right. They mention the president s name. He said i dont know, 100 times. It was sickening. It was feeling like a clan rally you would see on tv. So, that happened. [ applause ] when you have to scold your constituency to not be racist, you have a problem. Just sayin. Stephanie just sayin. Roger in michigan. Youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Hello, roger. Caller how you doing, stephanie . Stephanie good. Go ahead. Caller love your show. I love listening to jacki because imen Insurance Agent here in michigan and i learn a lot from jacki. I had attended a meeting where there were a couple of the Top Healthcare providers here in michigan were present. A couple of spokespeople. A number of most of the agents are not happy with the new healthcare. It is going to raise the costs. Anyway, one of the providers the spokesperson said he basically was feeding into it, not much. Mainly the other agents and the top guy who was at the meeting who was really getting into it. The other healthcare provider, the spokesperson who was representing a company that has already been working with some of the provisions in the Affordable Care act, he got up there and he was totally told us how great it was going to be. It was not something that we should really be fearful of. You should have heard the hush well, you should have seen the hush that fell over the room. One of the top guys who was bashing obama and the healthcare got up and talked about oh, this is great. This is going to be fantastic. But i just want to mention that i think it is going to be a great thing as an Insurance Agent and i think it will work out really well for people. They shouldnt be fearful of it. Stephanie all right, honey. Jim, sarah palin spoke this weekend so there is comedy. [ nbc nightly news ] Chris Christie will be thrilled about this. Shes on team rand. Former you go with that. Great idea. Stephanie the quitter from twitter. Sarah palin said she sided with rand paul in the ongoing feud between the kentucky senator and new jersey governor Chris Christie. Oh she was on fox news. Jim, i can only if you read it, i can only because it is a lot of palin here are her thoughts. Got the whole dont tread on me government. Chris christie is for Big Government and trying to go along to get along in so many respects. Some people hes a governor hes got youtube videographer following him around. Set up situations sometimes. Can seen perhaps as Chris Christie is for government. Rand paul with healthy libertarian that we need more of. Team rand paul. Stephanie okay. It is more palatable when jim reads it. Barely. Barely. No. Stephanie thats an actually sentence and ya know, some people look at him as amen, hes a governor who goes rogue. Did you say stephanie in what respect, charlie . Oh, my god in what respect, charlie . In so many respects. All of the respects. Stephanie im on team rand. Rand paul understands, he gets the whole notion. Trying to go along to get along in so many respects. In that respect, charlie. There are so many respects out there. Theres too many. Stephanie oh, dear god. You are on idiot, ha, ha, ha harks, ha, ha, ha. Stephanie okay. 45 minutes after the hour. Chris christie, thrilled, im sure. Thrilled with that. Rand paul is the damian. Bring it on. Stephanie of the Republican Party. All for you, rand. By the time they got around to the omen part three, he was running for president. Stephanie right back on the Stephanie Miller show. [ laughter ] come on its brilliant announcer its the Stephanie Miller show. This show is about analyzing, criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. Are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night . Is this personal or is it political . A lot of my work happens by doing the things that i am given to doing anyway. Staying in tough with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. Not only does senator rubio just care about rich people but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. But we do care about them, right . Vo the war room tonight at 6 eastern current tv is the place for true stories. With Award Winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines. Real, gripping, current. Documentaries. On current tv. Announcer Stephanie Miller. Everybody was kung fu fighting fast as lightning little bit frightening expert timing stephanie yes, it is the the Stephanie Miller show. Welcome to it. 51 minutes after the hour. 1800steph12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. Kathy in oklahoma. Hi, kathy. Caller hi, steph. Oh, my goodness. Im just concerned about this attitude of the employers about being afraid of obtaining healthcare insurance money under obamacare. More than ever on the other side of the equation having to be the work that needed the healthcare. In a mentality where no one ever provided it for me when i was coming up and im a success so they shouldnt have to worry about it either. It is a terrible it is like a a he goes well, it never hurt me none so im going to kick my kids around, too. Stephanie jacki has said it over and over again. Employers used to want to give Health Insurance to get and keep good employees. By and by, when jacki was mentioning at the top of the last hour about putin, i believe. [ nbc nightly news ] i think it was dick durbin no, Chuck Schumer was saying dont boycott the olympics but everyone should wave a rainbow flag. I love that idea. Somebody tweeted over the weekend. Amsterdam marked putins visit by flying gay pride flags on all of the buildings. They made it a rainbow crosswalk. Look, we accidentally started Nuclear Strike against holland and sweden. Stephanie he will have rainbows following him everywhere. Johnny weir said hes prepared to go to the Winter Olympics in russia and get arrested. Stephanie good for him. [ nbc nightly news ] gay peoples hearts unsuitable for life says head of russias statecontrolled tv news. Since 2008, dmitri that guy has been the deputy general director of the russian state television. Hes bad, i meant. Stephanie on russias number one top news show which airs all across russia every two hours. He told his fellow russian citizens that the hearts of lgbt people are unsuitable for life. He said i think just imposing fines on gays among teenagers is not enough. He continues saying gay people should be banned from donating blood, sperm, adds in their hearts in the case of an Automobile Accident should be buried in the ground or unsuitable for the continuation of life. Oh, my god stephanie he means their actual hearts. Apparently he believes that his fellow russians should die than accept a heart transplant from a gay or lesbian or transgender human being. Russia is part of a larger tv network wholly controlled by the kremlin and they were saying this wouldnt happen on state Television Without putins approval. Wow. Things are getting like really backwards. Stephanie i wonder if he would like to test that theory if the only option was to have a gay persons organ. And a gay doctor doing the transplant. Stephanie i wonder if that would would it lend itself added to a change of some kind . Wakes up from the anesthesia. Hey. Hey, girl. Somebody gave me gay heart and not rebecca gayheart. Obama i dont have a bad personal relationship with putin. When we have conversations, theyre candid, theyre blunt. Oftentimes, theyre constructive i know the press likes to focus on body language and hes got that kind of slouch looking like the bored kid in the back of the classroom. But the truth is that when were in conversations together, oftentimes, it is very productive. Stephanie all right. Bit way, you know whats not productive . Fox news in any way. Fox news suggests obama only wants gay cast base. Leave it to them to take something he said. I do not think it is appropriate to boycott the olympics over the russias antigay laws. He is looking forward some gay athletes bringing home the gold, silver or bronze. If russia doesnt have gay or lesbian athletes, it will probably make their teams weaker. Leave it to fox news contributor. Those people. Stephanie he tweeted obama wants gay athletes to win medals. It sounds like the president is suggesting a litmus test. Right thats exactly what the president said. [ buzzer ] implying president obama only wants gay olympic athletes which is ludicrous. There are some fun facts for the record. Lgbt out olympic athletes won 11. Why cant president obama support all of our olympic athletes regardless of oh, god stephanie regardless of sexual orientation. Oh, god. Thats our gay fun facts music. Stephanie thank you. Youre welcome. Stephanie thank you. Would you like some more fox antigay stuff for the heck of it . Fox news contributor sandy rios, her yes. I think you have debated her. Stephanie sadly, i think i have. [ nbc nightly news ] try to erase that from my memory. I did not pull out her weeds. She and chicago pastorrer win agreed on the Association Family american radio show that love is no reason to allow gay couples to get married. After all, pedophiles, kidnappers and rapists probably love their victims for all we know. A pedophile says he loves children. As a matter of fact, he does but you can see how destructive that love is said the pastor guy. Rios took it a step further. Of course she did. Stephanie comparing the love of samesex samesex couple love castro had for amanda barry. He loved his family, child born of one of the rapes of the woman he loved. He said im not a monster. That was her particular edition of really bad analogies. [ applause ] would you like to know what else is out there on the fringe . Representative ted yoho, that guy who is a bet bit of a yahoo of florida, more than eager to throw his support behind a birther legislation. Hes on board with the accusation that president obamas tax on tanning beds is, wait for it, racist. Discriminatory against white people . Stephanie yeah. White people who want to be browner. He hates them. Stephanie wake up white people. New guy in the white ring fringe, representative Markwayne Mullin. Markwayne is one word. Stephanie right. I think that tells you all that you need to know. Wait until you hear what he has to say. Stephanie 58 minutes after the hour. The Stephanie Miller show. [ theme ] stephanie all right. Current tv. Hour number three. Jacki schechner, i have a leftover question from jackis healthcare corner. Make it quick because i have to scrub up and gheet surgery. Stephanie perfect. Somebody had written a piece on this. They said here is my bold prediction, almost every state who opposes obamacare will see premiums higher and other states will see healthcare premiums lower than expected. What do you think . It will be a selffulfilling prophecy . That it will be all hype . Stephanie no, that the republican states who have done all they can to not have it work, the premiums will go up as opposed to states that are cooperating, do you think there is validity to that . I dont think that will be the case at all. I think it will be a market demand situation. People will get access to healthcare and the premiums will go down because the Insurance Companies realize in order to get the new customers, theyll have to be affordable. Stephanie even in republicancontrolled states. Yeah, because a lot of the states arent setting up exchanges and the federal government will do it for them. Stephanie here she is, Jacki Schechner. Almost all u. S. Diplomatic facilities in north africa and the middle east are back open today after being closed for a week due to fears of an alqaeda attack. 18 of the 19 consulates and embassies will be fully operational within the next few days. The only exception is the embassy in yemen. That threat alert is still high and the u. S. Has now made at least nine drone strikes in the past two weeks killing 38 suspected alqaeda militants. Secretary of state john kerry may have to work a little harder now that hes traveling to south america this week. Here you see a picture of him arriving in bogota. This is all happening in the wake of Edward Snowdens nsa disclosures and the information has at least brazilian and colom colombian officials asking extra questions about prophecies. Kerrys first visit to south america as secretary of state. His attention intention was to focus on trade and energy and show u. S. Support for current talks that are happening now between colombian government officials and the powerful revolutionary armed forces. Attorney general eric holder is speaking before the American Bar Association today and hes going to call for changes to our nations criminal justice system. Holder wants to get rid of some mandatory minimum sentencing which would incarcerate too many nonviolent offenders and drive up costs. He will recommend the release of seniors or sick inmate who are expensive. The prison system is estimated to be 40 over capacity. Were back after the break. Cenk off air alright in 15 minutes were going to do the young turks i think the number 1 thing than viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. They know that im not bsing them for some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. When the democrats are wrong, they know im going to be the first one to call them out. Cenk on air whats unacceptable is how washington continues to screw the middle class over. Cenk off air i dont want the middle class taking the brunt of the spending cuts and all the different programs that wind up hurting the middle class. Cenk on air you got to go to the local level, the state level and we have to fight hard to make sure they cant buy our politics anymore. Cenk off air and they can question if im right about that. But i think the audience gets that, i actually mean it. Cenk on air 3 trillion dollars in spending cuts narrator uniquely progressive and always topical, the Worlds Largest online news show is on current tv. Cenk off air and i think the audience gets, this guys to best of his abilities is trying to look out for us. Only on current tv of stephanie it is the Stephanie Miller show. Welcome to it. 1800steph12 toll free from anywhere. Marcus in North Carolina says it is no longer box wine. The classy term is carbordeaux. Drunk stack meets funeral husband stack. A police Say University of iowa student arrested on public intoxication, said of course im drunk. It is thursday night in iowa city. Thats a man after your own heart. [ applause ] stephanie okay. Kind of drunk stack meets perv stack. Something for all of us. Florida cop has he in male drunk driver punch him in the [ bleep ] [ nbc nightly news ] okay. All right. Stephanie guess he likes that sort of thing. Prosecutors in where else florida stephanie are going after a Police Officer after he had a female drunken driver punch him in the genitals during a traffic stop. Officer stopped two female drivers after they had left a vegas strip club. He threatened the two women with arrests, directed them to near a parking lot where another officer met them. Ordered one to have intercourse with him while the other one made a simple request to punch him in the [ bleep ] officer moran, asked victim, Name Withheld to punch him in the nuts. Officer hartley encouraged the act by telling the puncher tom really enjoys this. Oh, my god stephanie okay. Thats a thing . In other in other word florida news woman drops purse with forgotten purse inside and shoots friend in the leg. Stephanie all right. Speaking of annoying stories, i had jim read the sarah palin transcript on the fact shes team rand because you know, sometimes governor christie says hes going rogue but hes not exactly going rogue because i dont know. [ whatever ] i cant remember all of the word salad. The story of america. By the time the pilgrims came over on the mayflower and invented moving and storage, everyone knew that america would be special. But then the king exfoliated tyranny and everybodys tea was taxied and sam adams saw an opportunity to sell beer and to tell the readers the british from coming but jiminy crockett and david bowie fought bravely. Now our freedoms are threatened by people who think theyre better than you because they can spell correctly and dont use all caps. They hold little regard for us individuals who arent separated by barbed wire fences or the fulllength of their terms. America is a land of opportunity. With your help, we can make sure our children have the same rights to obesity, rabid ignorance, semiautomatic rifles and a deal for reality tv that we have. God bless everyone. Stephanie thank you, sara. Thank you. [ applause ] stephanie whats more annoying than that . Probably only turtle sex that includes dana loesch, Mitch Mcconnell and cody the screaming dog. Oh, baby [dana loesch screaming] now, its a party stephanie not until cody gets there. [cody screaming] is that a cop who likes to get punched in the nads . Yes. Stephanie all right. Dana loesch is punching. Stephanie that is weird, weird, weird. Thank you, Rocky Mountain mike. I dont mean to imply that any guy with two first names is a first name is an idiot. Im just saying Markwayne Mullin mullin representative Markwayne Mullin, republican of oklahoma, unfortunately, while he believes all vile evidence proves barack obama was born in kenya. Hes afraid it is late to do anything about it. This was at a town hall. He said oh, i think orly taitz was probably there. The birther asking him to do whatever your friend. Stephanie we lost the opportunity to get another president. Lets move on to some other issues. He was born in honolulu. Im look at the certificate of live birth. Stephanie theres more. He believes physically fit people he saw a physically fit people he said fraud. 100 of it all is fraud. It is all over the place. [ applause ] so only fat people can get food stamps. Stephanie apparently, yes. Dont they usually use the argument that how can you be starving if youre fat . [ whatever ] stephanie oh, markwayne. Hes adorbs. Of. Stephanie you think it was an argument between the parents as to whether to name him mark or wayne . Conflict resolution. Stephanie case casey in texas. Caller i need to get you off of speaker. Stephanie okay, thank you. Caller what i wanted to speak to was the fact that the Fourth Amendment applies to when you have an expectation of privacy and since the beginning of the internet, theyve said that you have no expectation of privacy and also when cell phones first started, they said theyre radio waves and you have no expectation of privacy there either. Stephanie thats what ive often said. I think a lot of this technology has outpaced where we used to be on these issues. Stephanie by the way, senator john mccain talking about russia and putin. Mr. Snowdens being granted asylum in russia is a signal of incredibly bad relations between the United States and russia and mr. Putin putting his thumb right in americas eye. Stephanie why dont we just putter our hand up by our eye . Billy in texas, long time no talking point. Hi, bill. Caller hello. Stephanie hi, billie. Caller i wanted to call this morning. Ive been listening. I used to administer Employee Benefit plans. I can tell you firsthand, theres no more chicken outfit in the world than an Insurance Company. Theyre heartless, all about the money. And i get that. And its gotten worse through the years. The problem that i have with obamacare is if you think that Insurance Companies are heartless, wait until the federal government starts running this. Stephanie the federal government is not running it. All theyre doing is putting together a marketplace where private Insurance Companies can compete for your money. They can compete for my money right now. Stephanie mmhmm. So you think Insurance Companies were already operating as death panels. Arent they the ones who decide what theyll cover, what they wont . Caller well, thats the point. We can put laws in place. There are already laws against discriminating for preexisting conditions. Thats already on the books. Stephanie not before obamacare it wasnt. Not before obamacare it wasnt. Oh, for gods sakes, hes just going to blah, blah, blah. Try again on Thom Hartmann or ed schulz. He still gets his check as long as he gets through on any of our shows. [ nbc nightly news ] stephanie if you have the stamina, hang on for randi rhodes. Eric cantor signals to g. O. P. Colleagues they should fcu about a government shutdown. It is not helping. I dont think he used the f ftfu. Stephanie no one is advocating a government shutdown. Your party kind of is. Stephanie your defund obama kind of is. Youre making bitch face here. Stephanie theyre making eric cantor even bitch facier. Okay. [ nbc nightly news ] ted cruz getting an early start on 2016. He cant even run for president because he wasnt born in america. I was born in canada and i have a really high voice. So what is he doing . Im being discriminated against. Stephanie hes winning over iowans. He claims he was in iowa to escape the august heat in texas. Hes just starting out as a lying sack of crap. Youre a lying sack of crap youre a lying sack of crap stephanie for the family Leader Conference on saturday. Cruds nominally framed his remarks around the effort to defund obamacare by shutting down the blah, blah, blah. He cited the need for a Grassroots Army to rise up to stop obamacare and try to build its ranks. Unless he has Anthony Wiener problem thats a little [ price is right losing horn ] [ nbc nightly news ] stephanie thats what donald trump says, at least hes being consistent. He reignited the birther issue of course. Question of legitimacy of Barack Obamas birth certificate. Again. Was there is a bit certificate, trump asked . You tell me. Some people say im saying i dont know. Nobody knows. You dont know either, jonathan. You dont know either. Pretty convinced he was born in the u. S. Ah, pretty convinced, trump said rolling over his objections he was 100 . Karl asked trump if the canadianborn cruz was eligible for office. If he was born in canada, perhaps not. That will be ironed out. If he says he was born in canada, thats his thing. Yeah, that would mean computer says no. He cant be president. Stephanie right. Wouldnt it . Sure. Stephanie why is that different . Because hes white . Thats his thing. Stephanie his mother is an american citizen but he was born in canada. Isnt that the whole thing theyre saying . Exactly. John mccain, he was born in the canal zone of panama which was u. S. Soil. So he was eligible to run for president. Stephanie what could it be . [ jeopardy theme ] what could it be about president obama as one republican congressman called him exotic . Hes so exotic. Okay. All right. Speaking of racism or not, the oprah story. I talked about it on cnn friday. Well talk about that. 17 minutes after the hour. Right back on the Stephanie Miller show. Well, i guess that makes our naughty parts tingle. Announcer its the Stephanie Miller show. Current tv is the place for true stories. With Award Winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines. Real, gripping, current. Documentaries. On current tv. I just want your kiss stephanie it is the Stephanie Miller show. Welcome to it. 22 minutes after the hour. 1800steph12 the phone number. Enjifer in fresno. Hey, jen. Caller i need respond to our doctor imaginary and billy. First for the doctor, the patients are going to be paying for the premiums so it is not the Insurance Company being nice. If youre going to be covering a child up until age 26, youre still paying family benefit or the child and family benefit so youre paying for it. As for billy with his oh, you know, the government is going to run this. Im actually working on the exchanges for an Insurance Company. And thats not true at all. What were doing is exactly what chris said. It is a marketplace. Were still going to be administering the plans and even if he wants to say oh, but the federal government is voftd, even if we want to look at the federal Employee Plans like tricare, throws still be administered by Insurance Company. The governments not taking over and to be honest, i kind of rather they did. Stephanie there you go. Thank you. All right. Gee, another billy was wrong call. Theyre so rare. Mary in tennessee. Caller how are you today . Stephanie good. Go ahead. Caller billy is a i wont say it. Stephanie okay. Caller but for the preexisting, that is only going into effect with obamacare. Preexisting conditions were never covered. Thats why we had c. O. B. R. A. Stephanie thank you. Caller he such he just stephanie i think anyone anyone in their right mind knows thats been a huge issue that Insurance Companies could discriminate. Caller i have two grandchildren with preexisting conditions. One has asthma and the other has peanut allergies. They would never have been covered by insurance. Hello oh, well. Stephanie billy, hello. The terrible story about the teenage girl who died because of her peanut allergy. She died in her fathers arms. Stephanie anita in san antonio. Hi, anita, welcome. Caller hi, steph. I just want to clarify something about the ted cruz thing. Ted cruz is a naturalized citizen. His mother because his mother was an american citizen, even though she was in canada he was born in canada, because he was hes a naturalized citizen. The constitution says you must be a naturalborn citizen. Caller no, no, no. Yes, it does. Caller no. Go look at the constitution. Im looking at it right now. Caller no, no, no. A naturalized citizen, definition of a naturalized citizen is a person born by from a no. Actually, courts have never determined the definition of a naturalborn citizen. But naturalborn citizen is different than a naturalized citizens which is someone who takes an oath coming in from another country. Caller no, no, no. A naturalized citizen is a citizen born by a citizen. Okay, let me give you an example. Okay. Whats his name, romneys father. Romneys father was born in mexico. He ran for president. Nobody ever brought that up because he was born bit mitt romney was born in america which makes him a naturalborn citizen. No, his father ran for president. Stephanie his father . Mitt romneys father, George Romney ran. Thats what i mean. These are interesting issues, i gotta say. The courts have never determined the definition of a naturalborn citizen so whether the mother is a citizen or not has never been determined by the court so if that should happen, it will have to go to the supreme court. Stephanie what could it be . It has been a whole industry around the president s birth certificate . [ jeopardy theme ] what could it be . I cant imagine. Stephanie what could the difference be . Hes a space alien from another planet . [ nbc nightly news ] stephanie everybodys talking about this oprah story. It was on cnn friday talking about she claimed an incident of racism in what you call it, switzerland. Right. Third most expensive shopping street in the world. Stephanie couple of things i took from this. Number one, im like you can buy a purse for 35,000, really . And number two, they never got oprah in switzerland . What is it . They wouldnt sell her this bag. The only person worth 35,000 the only purse worth 35,000. Stephanie is there in fact 35,000 in cash in this purse . Computer says no. Stephanie that would not be worth it. Is there any amount of workmanship worth 35,000 for a purse . Stephanie so the manager of the shop in zurich said it was a 200 misunderstanding. Mrs. Oprah shes not married. Stephanie she was look at the Jennifer Aniston handbag. It was the latest it bag from tom ford made from crocodile skin. Mrs. Oprah asked how much it was and the Sales Assistant said 38,000. Jennifer aniston handbag sounds like something you would get from kmart from the Jennifer Aniston collection. Stephanie couldnt shy just get one from couldnt oprah just get one from Jennifer Aniston. My sales assess ant felt embarrassed about the price. She had the model in other material such as ostrich and suede which werent so execs pensive. You can get the much less expensive one in ostrich. What . Stephanie that was the misunderstanding was the normal selling discussion. Mrs. Oprah got the impression she didnt want to sell the bag to her because she wanted to show her other bags which had nothing to do with racism. He didnt just do the obligatory im not racist, i have a black best friend, get giant name drop in addition. He said tina turner is my best friend. I was at her wedding just like oprah so this has nothing to do with race. Stephanie you gotta say that as a giant name drop in the middle of it . You gotta hand it to him. Lets hear it for the boy lets give the boy a hand stephanie that all being said, i believe oprah. And it goes to the president s point many black people in this country experience incidents like this a lot. Our country and zurich. Stephanie 28 minutes after the hour. Right back on the Stephanie Miller show. 1 thing than viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. They know that im not bsing them for some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. When the democrats are wrong, they know im going to be the first one to call them out. Cenk on air whats unacceptable is how washington continues to screw the middle class over. Cenk off air i dont want the middle class taking the brunt of the spending cuts and all the different programs that wind up hurting the middle class. Cenk on air you got to go to the local level, the state level and we have to fight hard to make sure they cant buy our politics anymore. Cenk off air and they can question if im right about that. But i think the mean it. Cenk on air 3 trillion dollars in spending cuts narrator uniquely progressive and always topical, the Worlds Largest online news show is on current tv. Cenk off air and i think the audience gets, this guys to best of his abilities is trying to look out for us. Only on current tv if you believe in states rights but still support the drug war you must be high. Viewpoint digs deep into the issues of the day. Do you think there is any chance well ever hear the president even say the word carbon tax . With an opened mind. Has the time finally come for real Immigration Reform . And a distinctly satirical point of view. But you mentioned great leadership so i want to talk about donald rumsfeld. laughter cutting throught the clutter of todays top stories. This is the savior of the Republican Party . I mean really . With a unique perspective. Teddy rosevelt was a weak asmatic kid who never played sports until he was a grown up. laughter . And lots of fancy buzz words. Family values, speding, liberty, economic freedom, hardworking moms, crushing debt, cute little puppies. If Wayne Lapierre can make up stuff that sounds logical while making no sense. Hey, so can i. Once again friends, this is live tv and sometimes these things happen. Watch the show. Only on current tv. Stephanie it is the Stephanie Miller show. 1800steph12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. Lets go to michael in new york. Hey, michael. Caller hey, there, sexy liberal mama. Stephanie hello. Caller hey, you know, im so sick and tired of all of this racism crap that the rightwingers are imposing. We hear it. Weve seen it so many times but the birtherism against president obama and now were seeing it with oprah. With president obama, since they want to keep saying show us your birth certificate, i can play the same game with the republicans. How do we know what the past republican president s, that they werent how do we know whether or not they were american citizens . For all you know, they could have been canadian. Scottish or swedish. They were white so they look american. As far as oprah goes, she is right on target because i have done retail in the past. I worked for the supermarket. If a customer asks if they can see something, regardless of what item it is, you show it to them. Then they ask you how much it is. You give them the price. It is up to the customer whether or not they can afford something. Not you. And Everybody Knows damn well, you wouldnt do that to any white customer. Why would you do it to a black customer. Stephanie oprah is probably going to get even by buying switzerland. She probably already owns it. Probably owns it. She should lay a big smackdown on their racist asses. Stephanie there you go. Oprah has just bought switzerland. Shes taken the high road here. [ nbc nightly news ] stephanie cue fox news obama vacation freakout. His vacation on Marthas Vineyard on saturday. Bo also is going just so you know. The portuguese water dog. Stephanie exactly. Obama is scheduled to remain on vacation for a week. [ screaming ] didnt george w. Bush vacate the premises for two months at a time . Stephanie oh, yeah. Speaking of texas governors, texas clarifies it discriminates against democratic voters, not minorities. State of texas has an amusing response to eric holders claim that they discriminate against minority voters. They wrote d. O. J. s accusation of racist discrimination is basils. Both houses were controlled by large republican majorities and their redistricting decisions was designed to help the electoral prospects. They posted that sentence on the blog only in america. Pretty much admit oh, no, were theyre only discriminating because they both are the wrong way. By the way, speak of eric holder. Attorney general eric holder will announce that the department of justice will no longer call low level offenders with minimum sentences. A major shift in American Drug crimes. Hooray. An indication the president wants to reduce the number of americans who serve long prison sentences and rethink american laws that have existed for decades. The mandatory minimum change to delight both liberal activists and africanamerican groups that have long argued the required sentences lead to huge growth in the number of blacks in prison and nobody can say the sentencing laws are fair because theyre not. Theyre not racist. All right. Oh, by the way, how about this one, jim. One of your favorites, children given a lifelong ban on talking about fracking. Two Young Children in pennsylvania were talking how is that constitutional . Stephanie theyre like 7. How is that possible . For the rest of their lives . Put them in prison for talking about fracking . Stephanie theyve been banned from talking about fracking under a gag order with a settlement order reached with their parents with a leading oil and gas company. It was imposed over a 750,000 settlement between the hal witch family and range resources corp. It barred them ables 7 and 10 from ever discussing fracking. Insane and blatantly unconstitutional. Stephanie it is unconstitutional. But oil company theyre running the show. Stephanie they did it to get the settlement to get their kids out of there because they were having a host of health problems. The only way they would have the money to get out of there is to move away from this area. Thats horrifying. You cant talk about all of the ways youre poitionz the groundwater. Stephanie we can tell them not to. Hes 7 how are you going to control . Drone strike. Stephanie exactly . Gayle in massachusetts, youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Hi, gayle. Caller hi, how are you . Stephanie good. Go ahead. Caller this is a reference to the person who called about naturalized citizens as natural born. In the constitution, it says natural born but i have my son was born abroad. When he registers at the u. S. Embassies, you get a birth certificate that says u. S. Citizen born abroad. Born as a citizen. So that kind of makes. Natural born citizen but probably eligible like ted cruz. Hes not naturalized. His mother was an american citizen. Did she get the paper from the consulate or the embassy . Do we know that . That i dont know. Stephanie im sure orly taitz will be all over that. Annie in chicago. Youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Hi, annie. Caller hi. Im calling regarding the previous caller about the naturalborn citizen. Wouldnt that totally debunk the whole birther scenario because wasnt obamas mother born in hawaii . Wasnt she a natural born citizen . She was born in kansas. Regardless, hawaii is a state. U. S. Territory. Stephanie thank you for calling. Beth in virginia, youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Hi, beth. Caller im calling this about this natural born, naturalized business also. It is not just the fact that you have a u. S. Citizen parent. That by itself isnt enough. Right. Caller or even necessarily registering. There are some other steps. Chris is right as far as that maybe naturalborn but it hasnt really theres not a consensus on that yet and it hasnt been tested. But we may see with this. Stephanie yeah. Lets hope so. Who wouldnt want the food critic from ratatouille to be president. I speak of the ratfaced ted cruz, of course. [ nbc nightly news ] 61yearold man expected to be charged in murder connected with the shooting death of a man 40 years younger over a traffic dispute. The victim, 23yearold man encountered the unidentified man. He cut him off on the road twice prompting him to respond by throwing a glass of water on the mans vehicle. He said the man pulled out a 9 millimeter handgun and shot moss. Moss girlfriend and three children were in the car with them at the time. They were not injured. Thats how people are solving disputes now. Standing their ground stephanie yes. You threw water at me . Youre dead. Stephanie [ bleep ] america, yeah. All right. Jimmy in vegas. Youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Hi, jimmy. Caller hows it going . Stephanie good. Caller calling about Affordable Care act earlier. I just wanted to say as a citizen, the main problem i have with it i dont like Government Force forcing me to buy anything. Stephanie why does the Government Force you to buy Health Insurance . The government should force him to get a better phone if hes going to go around calling radio shows. I threw a bag of vipers in the guys car. That was the end of that. Stephanie unless you have a bag of glass to fight back with. Wow. Hal, did you watch people from idaho . No. Stephanie idaho. Found the guy the california abductor. Thank god, shes all right. [ applause ] the guy who did it, not so much. But shes fine. Stephanie right. Horseback riders, led to the rescue of a california teen. They became suspicious because she and her suspected abductor had new gear and appeared illequipped for the idaho wilderness. Theyre very good on helping here but grammar, not so much. Computer says no. Stephanie the two were not especially friendly and appeared out of place in idahos rugged back country like a square peg going in a round hole. [ buzzer ] hole . Pole . Those are two very different things, stephanie. Stephanie one of them was a retired sheriff riding with his wife and another couple when they encountered the pair. Hannah anderson was rescued and her abductor was killed. It came after a twoday manhunt for dimaggio wanted in the killing of andersons mother and her brother, ethan. John, the rancher and he was a rancher and retired u. S. Army ranger. He and the other couple discussed the oddness of the situation. The encounter with them raised red flags for them. The girl and the man were not eager to speak with them. She appeared scared at times so they were not sure go it was because of the horses. Dimmageio set up a camp on an exposed ridge with no matter source and where they might have been struck by lightning or storm. He might have been an outdoorsman from california but he was not an outdoorsman from idaho and thats why they alerted. Outdoorsman from california has all of the fancy camping equipment. Stephanie california gps. Exactly. Prada hiking boots. Stick out like a sore thumb in the idaho wilderness. Stephanie this is a weird story. He was apparently a friend of the family. They called him uncle something or other. Stephanie jim something. Yeah. Hes suspected of setting the home on fire and police found the bodies. It looks like she had been hit with a crowbar. She died of blunt force trauma. Horrible story. 45 minutes after the hour. Right back with the remaining moments of the Stephanie Miller show. Its fun for ables 8 to its fun for ages 8 to 80. Join us announcer its the Stephanie Miller show. Of the day. I do a lot of looking at those people as well. Not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. But we do care about them right . You know who is coming on to me now . You know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials . Those types are coming on to me all the time now. vo she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. Ok, so theres wiggle room in the Ten Commandments, thats what youre saying. You would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. Absolutely. And so would mitt romney. vo shes joy behar. And the best part is that current will let me say anything. What the hell were they thinking . Current tv is the place for true stories. With Award Winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines. Real, gripping, current. Documentaries. On current tv. Stephanie dont remind me. I was up all night partying with gaga last night. 1800steph12. You got something on your teeth. It is like a glow stick from last night. Enamel. Ick. She was at the abby last night and facebook exploded. Stephanie right. I knew that when i woke up this morning since i went to bed at stupid oclock. Stephanie right. We were talking about the oprah story. Eric boehlert on vacation this week. Well see him next week. He tweeted ugliness from rush. Limbaugh doubts oprahs racism claims. Maybe because shes fat. [ buzzer ] dont you love it when rush talks about other peoples physiques. I think thats awesome. By the way, eric had a couple of other great tweets. [ nbc nightly news ] wall street journal analysis ends with quote from g. O. P. Pollster saying obama really needs to try to meet g. O. P. In the middle. Hashtag parity. As in a joke. Then he tweets imagine the fox mini series fox anchor Gregg Jarrett doesnt know what Hillary Clintons achieved in her life. What way more than Gregg Jarrett has. Stephanie to warrant a she probably laughed in his face. Called him a turkey. Stephanie thank you, jim. [ laughter ] all right. Thank you, Gregg Jarrett. Turkey . Stephanie by the way, interesting piece in the huff po. In attacking nbcs hillary movie or mini series, Reince PriebusReince Priebus stephanie thank you. Lacks Ronald Reagans somebody wrote a piece, he should have asked what would Ronald Reagan do. Reagan was faced with a similar situation as he faced reelection and he took the exact opposite of Reince Priebus strategy. Reince priebus stephanie thank you. Reagans election in 1980 and his hardline reaction to soviet and afghanistan saw a return of cold war tensions as a result of widespread nuclear fear. Against that backdrop, abc aired the day after, remember that . Depicted the results of a Nuclear Strike on kansas city. Many on the right criticized it as a call for capitulation of the soviet union. On the right, almost widely viewed as implicit criticism of his approach to foreign policy. There i go again. Stephanie thinley veil veiled thinley veiled and said he was moved by the power. Less than a year after it aired, Ronald Reagan was elected in a landslide carrying 49 states. The problem is Reince Priebus has nothing. All he has hes got nothing in terms of something to run on or win on so of course he has to whine. I can run on my good looks and my personality. Stephanie im not saying who or anybody that i know but just make sure you do not turn on Reince Priebus on your television because that was oh literally, i just tuned in. He was like [whining noises] republicans arent united on a single thing. What is he talking about . Stephanie now, a story about a bear. [ nbc nightly news ] a black bear in search of a late night snack in idaho. Hes black, right . Stephanie that was my point. Broke into a but see, exactly. Crime story. Broke into an idaho house and licked leftover food from a cast iron pan on the stove. David edwards said when he went to investigate what his irish Setter Lab Mix was so upset about, he saw the bear on his hind legs licking a pan. Thats so cute. Eating chinese food. Thats more than a picnic basket. Stephanie edwards wife sara had fallen asleep on the couch. I couldnt tell her there was a bear in the house because she would have just lost her mind. She gets very upset over spiders. [ laughter ] a little bigger than a spider. Stephanie honey, wake up. Do not go in the kitchen. Weve had simultaneous Home Invasion of possum and raccoon eating from the kitty dish. Thats different. Stephanie do not go in the kitchen. So when he woke her up and let her into the bedroom without telling her about the bear in the kitchen. The elephant in the room. Stephanie edwards went back into the kitchen to find the bear was gone and the pan was clean. A tidy bear what a tidy bear probably didnt tell her didnt even have to wash the pan. It is clean now. Got any fortune cookies . Stephanie he comes back. Hey, excuse me. I need another picnic basket. Stephanie i forgot the fortune cookies. Tony in toledo, youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Hi, tony. Caller how you doing . Stephanie good. Caller the comment i wanted to make, you have to understand the average middle class republicans that vote, they think it is normal to ignore people in need. They think it is normal to lie and if it means, you know, theyll get their way. They dont see a lot of this stuff is wrong and even at times, you know, mentally disturbing, you know. They just they just think all of this stuff is normal. They think it is normal to buy guns and shoot at people. It just they just dont see the sickness in it. They really dont. Stephanie by the by, this may be bad news. [ nbc nightly news ] story in atlantic, they may be losing their demographic angry old white people. Theyre saying hillarys too old to run. That could be the last little bit of their democratic [ price is right losing horn ] the g. O. P. Has lost more support among voters over 65 than any other Demographic Group in recent months according to a new poll. This was surprising. As bad as things get for republicans with women with minorities, with youths, only one group they can count on, the old. But now started going after medicare. Stephanie one pollster sees evidence that seniors are starting to turn on the g. O. P. 28 of voters 65 and older had a favorable view of the Republican Party versus 40 who had a positive view of democrats. Yikes. It is now strikingly clear that seniors have turned sharply against the g. O. P. Said one the polling associate. Weve seen other voters pull back from the g. O. P. But among no group is a group as sharp as senior citizens. Theyre going after medicare and wheels on wheels and the post office. Stephanie exactly. Nicely done Republican Party. When youve lost old, angry white people [ applause ] not certain whos left for you. Oh, chris, i hate to end on such a dower note but the dream of the heathers tv show is dead. Again. [ nbc nightly news ] bravo will not be Going Forward with heathers. Stephanie whats your damage, bravo . [ nbc nightly news ] bra row is a bunch of heathers. Stephanie obviously run by a bunch of heathers. Remember, buzzfeed writes remember these wise words, if you were happy every day of your life, you wouldnt be a human being. You would an game show host. They mixed some liquid drano with some orange juice and they fed it to the tv series and it crashed through the coffee table. Hoarch. You never saw heathers, did you . Stephanie i did. They fed one of the heathers the liquid drano. She died, crashed through the coffee table. Stephanie now i got it. Horrible. 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