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Stephanie hot brie. Yes but also stephanie i forget. Piers morgan. Really . Stephanie thats right. We went out to lunch. I saw piers morgan. I said hello. I see you in hair and makeup all the time at cnn. You didnt go like this, did you . Stephanie yes like i had a puppet on. No, i did not. We have lots of healthcare news. Well do a healthcare corner with jacki later. Here she is, Jacki Schechner. Good morning, everybody. Hope everybody had a good holiday. President obama just updated his schedule for the day. Hes holding a meeting with senior officials and cabinet members next hour. Which will reportedly lay out his plans for smarter government and then give a speech on his new management agenda just before noon. The white house says the president s going to talk about a threepronged approach, better smarter and faster delivery of government services, saving money and then also making some Government Data more transparent who helped private industry to create jobs and solve problems. Secretary of state john kerry wont be there. He is instead with his wife at Massachusetts General Hospital in boston. Teresa heinz kerry was rushed to nantucket Cottage Hospital yesterday afternoon and arrived there in critical condition. She then was transferred to boston where she remains in critical but stable condition today. No official word yet on how she fell ill but the a. P. Reports she may have suffered a seizure. John and Teresa Heinz Kerry have been married since 1995. In 2009, heinz kerry diagnosed and treated for Breast Cancer. Undergoing two lumpectomies. Shes 74 years old. Former new york governor and current tv host Eliot Spitzer will make a run at politics again. Hes hoping voters will forgive his past indiscretion and pick him to be new york city comptroller. Hes got just a little bit of time. Hes got to collect at least 3,750 signatures from registered democrats by thursday in order to get on the primary ballot by september. Were back after the break. This show is about analyzing criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. Are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night . Is this personal, or is it political . A lot of my work happens by doing the things that im given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. In reality its not like they actually care. This is purely about political grandstanding. Ive worn lots of hats, but ive always kept this going. Ive been doing politics now for a dozen years. vo hes been called the epic politics man. Hes Michael Shure and his arena is the war room. These republicans in congress that think the world ends at the Atlantic Ocean border and Pacific Ocean border. The bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. I do a lot of looking at those people as well. Not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. But we do care about them right . Announcer its a Beautiful Day dont let it get away stephanie it is the Stephanie Miller show. Welcome to it. Six minutes after the hour. How was your flight back from San Francisco. [ screaming ] i was in San Francisco over the weekend. Luckily, i drove. Did not fly into sfo. Probably wise. Seoul first and then go to San Francisco. Stephanie now arriving gate nine, gate ten gate 12. A lot of the passengers had road rash from being dragged. The whole tail fell off. Apparently the tail hit like the wall along the ocean and broke off. Stephanie yikes. The good news was it was easy to get out from that part. [ buzzer ] ive heard this morning that the inflatable slides deployed inside the plane and trapped the flight attendants underneath them. A lot of things went wrong with this flight. Stephanie happy 4th of july everybody. Seven minutes after the hour. Big show as usual today. Rude pundit, Eric Boehlert and current tvs Jacki Schechner. I dont know how we got that booking. I hung out with her half the weekend. I worked her over. Lots of healthcare news and other news. Where do we start here . By the way heres what i spent part of my 4th of july doing is playing playing with siri. Drinking . You dont have any other friends . Stephanie other than jacki, no. Siri is her only friend. Stephanie here is my new game. Hang on. Siri are you helping the nsa spy on me . Im sorry. Stephanie, ims im afraid i cant answer that. Stephanie hang on. Siri, can you locate my Civil Liberties . Ive never really thought about it. Stephanie of course you havent. Of course you havent. That was a different answer than she gave the last time. All right. Yeah, this is there is a story in the New York Times over the weekend. Troubling. It is troubling i must say. [ hypnotic ] im troubled. Stephanie it is troubling in general. In secret, the Court Vastly Broadens Powers of nsa. Who read that . Anybody . Bueller . Bueller . [ crickets chirping ] well, this is the problem. Cant tell you why. Its a secret. Stephanie exactly. Like siri. Evasive. Exactly. [ nbc nightly news ] more than a dozen classified rulings, the nations Surveillance Court has created a secret body of long giving the as a matter of fact to amass vast collections of data on americans while pursuing not only terrorism suspects but people involved in espionage and cyber attacks. Although you do want that look. I mean you know what im saying. It is almost endless. They can expand it. However they want. Stephanie are you engaged in Nuclear Proliferation . Are you being evasive . Potential to be abused like nobodys business. Stephanie the rulings reveal the court has taken on a much more expansive role by establishing important judicial precedence with almost no public scrutiny. But see, this is why this is hard. Fisa court just a rubber stamp. Okay. Whatever. Stephanie i love that. They said that a couple of fisa judges being told theyre rubber stamped probably because theyre a rubber stamp. Stephanie the rulings the fisa court we know what it is. Was once mostly focused on improving case by case wiretapping orders but since major changes in legislation and greater judicial oversight of intelligence operations were instituted six years ago it has quietly become a parallel Supreme Court. Serving as ultimate arbiter on surveillance issues and delivering opinions that will shape intelligence practices for years to come. So this is it is a debate that we have said we should be having but you know, a lot of this there is more oversight than there was under bush. They are doing it with warrants but i agree with you chris. Potential for abuse. Lots of it. Stephanie the jums have expanded the use in legal principle known as special needs doctrines that carved out an exception to the requirement of a warrant for searches and seizures. It seems like a legal stretch according to one National Security law expert at syracuse university. Eliminating the Fourth Amendment, it is a bit of a stretch. Stephanie theyre not eliminating it. It is a stretch legally. Unlike the Supreme Court, the fisa court hears from one court in the case. Findings are almost never made public. Thats a problem. For the defense we dont have a defense. It is not a court if they only hear from one side. A court hears from both sides. Stephanie a single judge signs most surveillance orders which totaled nearly 1800 last year. None of the requests from the intelligence agencies were denied. According to the court the judges have had to interview when private internet and phone companies which provide much of the data have raised concerns that the government is overreaching in its demands for records and the government reports it has inadvertently collected more data than was authorized. The court has repeatedly ordered them to destroy phone data that was improperly collected. I mean whos monitoring that . Stephanie right. It is obviously i guess thats oversight. The judges have concluded the mere collection of this meta data that weve been talking about acts like the time of phone calls and numbers dialed but not the content of conversations does not violate the Fourth Amendment as long as the government establishes a reasonable agreement. The basic idea is that it is okay to create this huge pond of data but you have to establish a reason stick your pole in the water and start fishing. The court has indicated while individual pieces of data may not appear relevant, the total picture may in fact be relevant. To which joe was talking about. Joe wilson. Might be connected to someone terror watch list and you know, guilty by association. Stephanie a professor of constitutional velocity was affected by the american justice system. You cant deal with all classified information in a public court right . The fisa justices had criticism. Rubber stamped but the government speaking out to say thy apply rigger. The fisa courts presiding judge recognize the potential benefit of better informing the public will the courts decision but there are serious obstacle doing so because the potential of misunderstanding caused by omitting classified details. The problem is you cant make public all classified details or theyre not classified anymore. But if you i think what hes saying is if you release part of the picture, it is not the whole picture but you cant release the whole picture without classified data. Keith alexander, nsa director was pressed to the Senate Version in june, only pledged to try to make the decisions public. He said i dont want to jeopardize the security of americans by making a mistake and saying yes were going to do all of that. So obviously some more details that came out that are troubling. [ hypnotic ] im troubled, jim. I dont want what to do. Im troubled by the fact that nobody argues the other side of these fisa courts. There is no other side. Stephanie it is the spy nsa. Young man you cant stay there and in russia wont find any way to have a good time its time to quit as a spy nsa its time to start with your trial they can everything, you have said on the phone, you can hang up and wait for your drone ate time to start with the nsa stephanie thank you Rocky Mountain mike. The big facility in utah goes online in september. Suck out even more. Stephanie when i was on vacation, this is a perfect example of how cattywampas this whole debate is. When you have glenn beck and Michael Moore whatever. So i was hiking with a guy that is a liberal a huge Rachel Maddow fan. We got to talking about snowden. We both agreed hes not necessarily a hero and blah, blah blah. So but then were hiking. He said well i think we ought to send in a drone and attack him out. [ buzzer ] i was like wow now youve lost me. Im like wait a minute. You agree with me to some degree on the snowden thing. Oh, boy. Stephanie okay. I was a little like. [ scoobydoos huh . ] someone is to the right of me on the nsa thing. So that explains the whole thing, right . [ magic wand ] stephanie where is he now by the way . Ecuador, venezuela still in the moscow airport but we dont know where hes going. Nobody knows. Hes in a tom hanks movie. If we knew, we would drop a drone on him. Stephanie exactly. Not the volleyball movie the one where hes in the airport. The terminal. He could end up on an island. Wilson he could end up like the pilot he played in catch me if you can. That wasnt him. Leo dicaprio. Stephanie did i just outsource my job of getting movie references wrong to you . Stephanie we continue. Rude pundit coming up as we continue on the Stephanie Miller show. Announcer call stephanie now. Shes easy. 1800steph12. Compelling true stories. kaj jack, how old are you . Nine. adam this is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. vo with Award Winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines. Way inside. christoff were patrolling the area looking for guns, drugs bodies. adam were going to places where few others are going. [lady] you have to get out now. Lots of terrible things happen to people growing marijuana. This crop to me is my livelihood. 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Wix. Com. Thats wix. Com. All right. Tracy in atlanta on the latest nsa stuff. Hello, tracy. Caller good morning and good morning after whatever 4th. Stephanie the weekend. Caller let me start out by saying i am an africanamerican woman. And i support the nsa whatever theyre doing i support it. Simply because simply because number one terrorists do not abide by our constitution. It is not like our constitution can be applicable to whats going on today. Our constitution needs to be updated and besides most africanamericans are not all warm and fuzzy about our constitution. So welcome to our world. So get rid of the Fourth Amendment altogether . Caller i didnt say we should get rid of the Fourth Amendment. Stephanie see, thats what jim does. Caller that bothers me with you. You always go to the extreme. So whether we work within the system, work within it because one thing about it, when you have someone who has been hurt by injured or or died by a terrorist attack, youre not going to be all oh, well, thats life. You want something you want something done and you want action. Im sorry. We live in a i cant say the word right now. An age where technology is what it is. We need to either work within it. We need to deal with it. We have to get over our hoitytoity Fourth Amendment so deal with our world. Thank you. Stephanie oh, all right. She will take no further questions from you jim. We dont care about the Fourth Amendment. Stephanie she raised the point we have raised. Some is not just constitutional. It is technology. Technology has grown in leaps and bounds. Technology moves fast. The government moves slow. Therein lies the problem. We cant catch up. Stephanie jim, i think she asked a good question. Of course shes not saying lets get rid of the Fourth Amendment. What were asking is how do you apply it in this technological age. Everythings changed since stephanie even since the Bush Administration started. You know, i get it. Some people use this as a club against obama no matter which side youre on. Part of this is technology. Lets go to tom in albuquerque. Hello, tom. Hi, steph. How you doing . Caller concerning fisa, the problem is not that the administration is utilizing the fisa court. The problem is that congress set up fisa under the constitution. It can set its jurisdiction under the constitution. And if you want to change it, then congress can change it. But as long as that tool is available to any president the president s going to utilize the tools that have been made available to him. Stephanie right. Were going to talk to rude pundit coming up at the bottom of the hour. Not a lot of happy clappy stuff. No. Stephanie you know this is the other i think on the other side, jim, the other extreme is the whole youre with cheney. Okay. If you think this, then youre with cheney. There is a pretty wide gap between you know, those of us on the left that you know, believe in a certain degree of security and how to achieve it i think is the main question. Heres some happy clappy news. Liz cheney is ruining everything for the Republican Party. Good [ nbc nightly news ] good news for a change. [ laughter ] stephanie because shes getting she wants to run for senate. Except theres one problem is theres a guy who is already a republican senator thats already there and hes not retiring. But she is shes trying to push him out. Stephanie right. Sometimes guys have accidents. They fall off of the top of the hancock. They fall off of the top of the grand tetons. [ laughter ] stephanie tule a friend of dick cheney. He may invite him hunting. That never ends well stephanie right. No, not my finger. Stephanie this is the only story that made me happy over the weekend. In wyoming, liz cheney run worries g. O. P. Ms. Cheney is showing up everywhere in the state. My friend goes shes nasty like her daddy. Shes made it clear she wants to run for the senate now held by michael enzi a soft spoken republican and one time flyfishing partner of her fathers but her move threatens to start a civil war within the states republican establishment. Fight, fight fight stephanie mr. Enzi said hes not ready to retire. It would bring about the destruction of the Republican Party in wyoming if she decides to run. He said it is a disaster and all it does is open the door for democrats for 20 years. [ nah nah nah nah nah ] in wyoming. Stephanie im just picturing an Election Night 2016 when we see texas go blue for hillary. Karl roves head explodes on fox news and then wyoming goes blue. [ magic wand ] we would need a lot of windex after all of the times that karl roves head explodes. Stephanie exactly. Mr. Enzi, the New York Times says is known as a studious lowkey legislator who worked well with senator ted kennedy. [ dramatic ] cant have that he avoids political talk shows because he says their goal is to get guests to beat up on their colleagues. Wow you dont need him and the Republican Party. You need that whats her name . Liz cheney. [ applause ] stephanie wyoming residents have seen more of mr. Cheney since his daughter moved back to the state. He made news last month for accepting governors invitation to represent in the antelope hunt. Any opportunity to kill a defenseless animal. I like to kill stuff. I cant eat them anymore but i like to kill them. Its my thing. Stephanie just for fun. Ms. Cheneys broader line of attack is that hes too willing to work with democrats and is not vocal enough in purfing conservative in pushing conservative causes. Hes called president obama the most radical man to ever possess the oval office. [ whatever ] dare say dick cheney was the most radical man to ever occupy the oval office. Well, he kind of did. Stephanie the only reason mr. Enzi would see difficult is because there is a weird group of republicans that say it is akin to communism. All right. So good news there. Fight, fight fight fight. [ applause ] rude pundit with some nonhappy clappiness on the nsa next on the Stephanie Miller show. You must be high. Viewpoint digs deep into the issues of the day. Do you think there is any chance well ever hear the president even say the word carbon tax . With an opened mind. Has the time finally come for real Immigration Reform . And a distinctly satirical point of view. But you mentioned great leadership so i want to talk about donald rumsfeld. laughter cutting throught the clutter of todays top stories. This is the savior of the Republican Party . I mean really . With a unique perspective. 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Stephanie how are you this morning, sir . Oh, you know, im a little hinky this morning. Dont know if it was the whiskey, the ham or visit to a certain restaurant chain i wont mention because they might advertise with you. Does it rhyme with schnappel bees . I didnt degrade myself that much. Stephanie i read about your festive 4th of July Celebration in new york. It was lovely and annoying at the same time. Stephanie as is america. Exactly. Exactly. Stephanie so you write about the well, random thoughts about the nsas secrets and snowden. Man, its exciting. Where will nsa leaker Edward Snowden end up . Will he end up at t. G. I. Fridays at the moscow airport . Does he have access to shampoo . Tell us more about his plea bargain deal offers and his attempts to find country to take him. Tell us more because the more we hear about Edward Snowden the fugitive from the butt hurt u. S. Government the less we have to grapple with the documents. We were talking about a piece in the New York Times this weekend that it is you know, in terms of what the nsa is doing, it is more troubling the more we hear about it. Sure, sure. That fisa piece was definitely something what it tells us is that there is this i guess this little cloak of legality thats on top of whatever surveillance is being done. But yeah, its just troubling that theres never been anything that theyve rejected. Certainly not in the Obama Administration when it comes to surveillance. And that it has expanded what surveillance can be. And the definition of surveillance. Stephanie you know, it feels like a circular argument. I was saying you know, i was talking about being on vacation and talking to a guy who is a liberal Rachel Maddow fan who thinks snowden is a traitor and said we should send in a drone and take him out. Based on what . Stephanie thats what im saying rude. These are people weve got people on both sides Michael Moore and glenn beck agreeing that snowdens a hero. Where do you fall on all of this stuff . It is hard go ahead. Well, you know, i will say to an extent, i kind of dont give a crap about snowden at this point. You know, first of all any information that he was going to give hes given already. Theres nothing else he can do. He is not any kind of active even if you want to call him a traitor, hes not an active traitor right now. So im more concerned with what do we do now that we know and ive said before, theres a big difference between saying yeah, you know, i kind of figured that everybodys listening to my conversations when i call another country or whatever. And knowing to really knowing thats whats going on. Thats whats being collected. You have no say whatsoever. You cant find out if theyre doing it. And the power and the cases that they used to do that, you can never know what it is that made them do it. Stephanie how do we deal with security with classified data . Im just asking, im not trying to be provocative. What do we do if not a fisa court. How would we do this in this technological age do you think . I dont think you know, that to me is the discussion. Do we are we now that we know that there is this giant pool of data thats being collected, constantly, were talking about trillions and trillions of visas of information that are being collected and stored. Are we okay with it . And what do yeah, youre right. That is a question. What are the alternatives . I would say that you need to go back to, you know, to a more direct a more direct court order saying you know, okay, you can look for information on this person. Rather than, you know, randomly looking at everybodys everything and trying to figure it out. Stephanie you know, jim and i were just talking about the part thats troubling to people is in the fisa court only the government presents thats all they hear from. There is no other side. Theres no defense. Stephanie but as in regard to National Security, rude, how could you go through an open court, regular process that would take however long . Thats what im not sure what the solution is. Well, first of all warrants dont take that long. Everybody makes a big deal. Theres judges on speed dial, you know. That can give a warrant if youve got some information. The other scary thing is about the court is that theres it is just john roberts appointing the judges for 7year terms. Theres no oversight. Nobody has any other say. It is just whoever roberts says. And theres no appeal beyond the secret Appeals Court which i think has heard Something Like three case or something. In the history of fisa. So you know, there is no appeal to the Supreme Court. It is everything that is done is done in secret. Even if we have a secret appeal to the Supreme Court at least we would know that there is the checks and balances with things that we understand. We dont understand how how it operates. Stephanie the tough part about that article is saying that fisa has become a parallel Supreme Court. Thats not how we set things up in this country. Of. No. Thats the frightening part. Again, you know, people go to extremes as a way of using analogies, you know. They say this is like the soviet union. I dont know if anybodys moderating their behavior in any way or changing what they do because of this. But you know, i dont know. Theres nothing i can think that i would change in my daily habits about this. Watch what you say. Right. If somebodys recording a conversation, maybe ill just drop the word jihad in every phone conversation i have because if i dont show up one week, youll know what happened. Stephanie thats what you say unless you have a three hour radio show, then you have to fill time. Maybe if everyone put jihad in every third word in their conversations, they would give up. Too much chatter. The whole whatever place theyre storing all of this would blow up. Your Storage Facility where are they opening if . In theyve . In nevada . Utah. Stephanie like when kevin kline says theyre guy. If we all just say jihad all the time. Is everybody gay stephanie see now you cant discriminate. Stephanie rude you know, as it relates to snowden though, heres where i take issue with you you write the snowden chronicles and to a lesser extent the irrelevant Glen Greenwald is such a [ bleep ]hole attacks are an enormous distraction from the real stories spying on americans without suspicion or warrant which is the rude pundit has said repeatedly, something that deserves the debate. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper lying to congress and if these things dont matter to you, especially those of you on the left side of the political wall, if you think security has been compromised or some such [ bleep ], that hasnt been demonstrated at all congratulations, youre finally on the side of george w. Bush. Dick cheney and other assorted war criminals. [ buzzer ] well, now youve gone too far. Now youre calling me a war criminal, rude pundit. No, no. Im not saying youre a war criminal. Im just saying that you believe something that war criminals believe. We all believe things that terrible people believe. You know. Schnitzel is delicious. Dick cheney supports gay marriage. Im on dick cheneys side. Stephanie something you snuck in. Snowden is no longer an active traitor. Do we excuse traitors then . I dont believe hes a traitor at all. Im saying if were going to use no, i dont. I think the pursuit of snowden is a distraction. I think that the media has bought into the distraction because it is easier to talk about where will Edward Snowden end up than it is to grapple with this massive diversion into americans privacy. Stephanie a lot of the countries that that are either offering asylum or talking about it it is to stick it to the u. S. Right . Sure, sure. Absolutely. Just like the u. S. Would stick it to the soviet union or to china back in the day. Or any of the soviet satellite states. You know, i think that stephanie if hes saying im trying to do this to help americans, how is talking to our allies or Bradley Manning has done things that should be stephanie were not talking about Bradley Manning. Were talking about snowden. We dont know what Snowden Stephanie right. Know what Bradley Stephanie how is him mucking up our relations with china or god knows what other country, how is that helping americans . It seems like i dont believe its not. Its not. But neither is part of the nsa revelation. Part of the revelations are that the u. S. Has been collecting data on brazil, for instance. Thats Something Else that greenwald wrote about. Thats not helping u. S. Relations either. You know, some of the stuff is, you know, it is like oh, gee really . Weve been spying on china . Germany apparently. Let me tell you germany freaks out over this kind of stuff. Theyve had a bad experience with this. Yeah, they did. Germany actually stopped microsoft from mapping doing sort of google street map thing that microsoft was going to do. They threatened to arrest everybody involved if they kept doing kept photographing their streets. So germany takes this crap seriously. Stephanie i agree with them. Google maps is creepy. At least we have come to some sort of magical meeting of the minds. How is the nsa thing different than google maps, you know. It is randomly riding around. If youre there you know, if you happen to be sunbathing without pants at that moment, then i guess somebody would stephanie something the rude pundit says. Just on my stomach. Just on my stomach. Stephanie i will leave you with that visual. Love you rude. See you next week. Bye. [ applause ] stephanie aww. Thats cute like a baby. 46 minutes after the hour. Right back on the Stephanie Miller show. Announcer i got her number off the mens room stall. 1800steph12. vo this afternoon, current tv is the place for compelling true stories. Jack, how old are you . Nine. This is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. vo with Award Winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. vo from the underworld, to the world of privilege. Everyone in Michael Jacksons life was out to use him. vo no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current. vo she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. Ok, so theres wiggle room in the Ten Commandments, thats what youre saying. vo shes joy behar. Current will let me say anything. So we got boom boom and way o. Stephanie okay. 51 minutes after the hour. 1800steph12 the phone number. Toll free from anywhere. You okay . Stephanie never mind. Okay. Lets see. Paula writes steph youre not supposed to breathe your own spit. Stephanie oh thats what it was. Somebody elses spit, thats fine. Thats doable. Stephanie enough about my weekend. Snowden gave foreign country classified u. S. Information. Isnt that what a traitor does . Paula asking. Well, what we know. What do we know . Stephanie he did do that. He let them know our methods. Stephanie how do you live in a world wherever you fall on this issue youre like oh, yeah, thats okay. Whether it is Valerie Plames identity or whatever. Ill tell you whats not okay. Bradley manning was reporting on war crimes and hes not allowed to mention war crimes in his defense. So there is no defense. Theyre probably going to kill him. Stephanie jim, do we pass a law saying it is not a crime to leak classified information . No matter who you are. There are different kinds of classified information. Some of it is stuff we should know. We should know whats going on. Stephanie who elected Edward Snowden is my point to decide that. Not even talking about snowden. Stephanie im not arguing arguing with you about that. The conversation isnt about Bradley Manning. The conversation is about Edward Snowden. Because i know something about him. It is a different conversation though. Stephanie jay in pasadena. Hello, jay. Just want to comment on nsa. Yes. I voted for obama but in bush words, anybody could be a terrorist. Anybody. So if you decide to do anything funny, guess what. Youre going to jail. Plain and simple. Thats how bush will put it. He will leave it at that. With snowden, all of this happened when eric holder decided not to resign. Then all of this stuff blew up because of holder. All of the reporters are just scared. Thats all it is. All the reporters are just scared. They stringing snowden along. Now he got caught up because it didnt work out. Now hes stuck. And thats it. I mean you know, theres nothing else you can say about it. Stephanie maybe im missing your point. Had what do you mean theres nothing you can say about it . Caller the nsa thing anybody could be a terrorist. Anybody. Just like clapper, they tried to get it was all it was all when they had clapper on the stand, they already knew because they wanted holder to resign. Clapper, he didnt give up the information that they wanted. Basically, he had been spilling the beans. He didnt lie. He didnt want to say the secrets of what was going on because they came with the little shady little way of doing it. Just trying to expose information and then that didnt happen. Then holder didnt resign. So then they just blew it all out of proportion. Stephanie yes. His answer was somewhat clinnesque. Let me say at best. To put it nicely. Stephanie mike in ft. Lauderdale, hi mike. Caller hi, steph hi, mooks. I wanted to say if we keep hearing how the u. S. Hasnt kept up with technology, i think theyve done a very good job. Im quite impressed. Theyre listening to everyones phone call in the world. Mmhmm. Pretty much. Caller so i mean isnt it funny if we had taken that money and,energy and put it toward scholars, then i think we would have been much better off. Stephanie if we put the money into what . Caller taken the money out of what we had put into the nsa and the 1. 5 Million People that run this machine. This huge thing the government has created in technology. Stephanie miller show can buy a computer. They can track back anybody they want. Cant afford it. But anyway we havent sold enough carbonite to afford that. [ laughter ] stephanie and a couple of go to meetings. Lets go to kevin in maine. Youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Hi kev. Caller hello. Stephanie hello. Caller longtime fan and first time caller. I would like to make a clear comment about the nsa. Ever since i emigrated to this country, im originally from canada i came right before the 911 attacks. Good timing. Caller i kind of noticed ever since the war on terrorism started and especially now since all of the revelations came about the nsa ive noticed that everybody on the right and to the center right of the political spectrum has been so quick to throw out being willing to our constitutional rights, the First Amendment in the name of the terrorism. If they read history, there was an enemy far more deadly than any terrorist organization. The russians. We never threw out the fourth and First Amendment for them. We dont know that the terrorists have the ability to we did know that the russians could nuke every american city. And had the ability and were tried of it. We didnt degrade ourselves by destroying the constitution under the bus just for the russians. Why are we doing it for the terrorists. I dont know if snowden is a real traitor or not but why are we why are we beating ourselves up for an enemy that is really lesser than the russians . Stephanie i get your point. Why are we hitting ourselves . Because we do that as well as a nation. Stephanie elvis in madison, wisconsin. Caller hey. I think we should line up a little bit about the nsa. Serious stuff. It is personal. When the nsa says that were very concerned about letting out the secrets to the enemy by the enemy, they just mean jim ward. Stephanie of course. Exactly. Thank you for that. Jan in michigan. Lets cover for jim for a minute. Jihad, jihad jihad. Jan in michigan. Youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Hi jan. Caller hi. First time caller also. Love your show. Stephanie thank you. Caller i was talking with your assistant and i said you know theyre talking about germany, basically being all right with this. Nope. Caller im a obama supporter. I think that he hasnt done everything right but i think that he is really trying. If the republicans would meet him halfway, we would probably have a lot of progress in this country. The bottom line is though, there are a lot of people in germany the skinheads and things, neonazi movements im sure that the kind of tapping hes doing there theyre probably asking him to use his network to do it. And i think theres other countries probably even putin in russia who want to stick his chest out there and act like hes so antiamerican but theres more cooperation going on there. Stephanie okay. I think im still drunk from the weekend. I dont think i understood one callers point this hour. Jackis healthcare corner next on the Stephanie Miller show. Stephanie hour number two. Jacki schechner you will not believe who we have booked this hour. Who . Stephanie you me . Did you call my people . Did your people call my people . Stephanie i did. I did. They okd it. Okay, good to know. Stephanie because we get a lot of ask jackies. We have when my mailbag gets full, we have to [ explosion ] there is important stuff happening. Im going to do a little bit of it in this little news break. Well revisit it again. Stephanie because it is important stuff. Holiday weekend. Some stuff we may have missed. In the meantime, here she is before her corner in the news rectangle, Jacki Schechner. It is the rhombus. Good morning everybody. If releasing news on a friday afternoon is considered trying to bury it then what do we call releasing news on a friday afternoon on a holiday . Doesnt look so good. This past friday the department of health and Human Services published new rules regarding among other things, the state Health Insurance exchanges that are going to be up and running for enrollment october 1st. For washington, d. C. And the 16 states that are going to run their own exchanges, the administration will not require verification that someone doesnt already have the option of getting Health Insurance through work. The rule says until 25 2015, the applicants word is good enough. The new rule allows leeway as to what someone reports is his or her income which determines whether or not that person will receive government help in paying for their Health Insurance through their Health Insurance fees. There is a penalty for fraud if you lie on your Health Insurance exchange form. Youll have to pay up to 25,000 and you would have to pay back subsidies you received illegally. But even Health Reform advocates tell the Washington Post this latest adjustment is not a great sign. It says the administration is low on resources and is having to triage. In other news, Texas Governor rick perry is going to announce his political future plans today at a caterpillar dealership in san antonio, texas. The question is whether or not hell run for a fourth term or try again for a president. Perry already is the states longest serving governor. At the same time, the Texas State Senate is busy today. It is holding a public hearing on the abortion ban once again that wendy davis successfully filibustered just two weeks ago. Were back after the break. But still support the drug war you must be high. Viewpoint digs deep into the issues of the day. Do you think there is any chance well ever hear the president even say the word carbon tax . With an opened mind. Has the time finally come for real Immigration Reform . And a distinctly satirical point of view. But you mentioned great leadership so i want to talk about donald rumsfeld. laughter cutting throught the clutter of todays top stories. This is the savior of the Republican Party . I mean really . With a unique perspective. Teddy rosevelt was a weak asmatic kid who never played sports until he was a grown up. laughter . And lots of fancy buzz words. Family values, speding, liberty, economic freedom, hardworking moms, crushing debt, cute little puppies. If Wayne Lapierre can make up stuff that sounds logical while making no sense. Hey, so can i. Once again friends, this is live tv and sometimes these things happen. Watch the show. Only on current tv. Cenk off air alright in 15 minutes were going to do the young turks i think the number 1 thing than viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. They know that im not bsing them for some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. When the democrats are wrong, they know im going to be the first one to call them out. Cenk on air whats unacceptable is how washington continues to screw the middle class over. Cenk off air i dont want the middle class taking the brunt of the spending cuts and all the different programs that wind up hurting the middle class. Cenk on air you got to go to the local level, the state level and we have to fight hard to make sure they cant buy our politics anymore. Cenk off air and they can question if im right about that. But i think the audience gets that, i actually mean it. Cenk on air 3 trillion dollars in spending cuts narrator uniquely progressive and always topical the Worlds Largest online news show is on current tv. Cenk off air and i think the audience gets, this guys to best of his abilities is trying to look out for us. Only on current tv stephanie it is the Stephanie Miller show. Six minutes after the hour. 1800steph12 toll free from anywhere. Shes not there yet. All right. She was there earlier. Stephanie here she is. Okay. 1800steph12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. Jacki joins us now. Hello, Jacki Schechner. Somebody forgot to feed the hamsters that run on the wheels here. [ laughter ] stephanie sorry. All right. So lets start with this letter. I have a healthcare question for jacki. My husband switched jobs in october and our healthcare has gone from bad to worse. Only one doctor takes this plan and this clinic is 25 miles away. We cannot see our Family Doctor less than five miles away that we have a Good Relationship with. Can we get better healthcare on the plan. Is that an option . When i go on the web site, i get a headache. Thanks nurse jacki. Well. Stephanie well. Before last friday i would have said it depends on the state she lives in because you have to prove you cant get Health Insurance through work. I just reported in my little news update, on friday, the administration released a whole new set of rules and it says basically for the next year or so, d. C. And the 16 states that are going to run their own exchanges dont have to verify whether or not somebody gets insurance through work. That theyre just going to take your word for it. It is not ideal. Stephanie idea they do this . Theyre saying that you know, it acknowledges the exchanges need extra time to get their verification systems in place. Yeah. What it is turning out to be. It is a heavy lift. And not everything is happening as quickly as i think the administration would like it to be. I think resources are lower than they need to be. I think that we talk about too much government and you know, too many people in government and this is one of the situation where is we with need more resources. We dont have enough people and not enough resources to get this done as quickly as it needs to be done, frankly. Stephanie i heard somebody on one of the sunday shows making the same point you make. Something this big what is it, 17 of our 20 at this point. Stephanie it is going to be messy. Getting it implemented as youve said. Of course. Look, im a big proponent of getting something done when it comes to healthcare reform. These sorts of things dont look good from a p. R. Perspective. We said it when we found out two weeks ago that they were going to delay any sort of penalties for employers with more than 50 employees not contributing if theyre employees go out on to the exchanges. Now, another delay in any sort of requirements is just adding on to that. It just gives opponents of reform ammunition. The facts are still there. Everythings going to work. It is just a downside of this. I have to be honest about it because i dont feel comfortable sugar coating it. People are going to get government subsidies if you make between 100 and 400 of the Poverty Level youll get help paying for your Health Insurance. If you fudge what you make or you fudge whether or not you have access to employer Health Insurance, youre essentially stealing from the taxpayers because youre going to use money that shouldnt be allocated to people who dont need it. There is a fine. Up to 25,000 fine if you lie on your application and youre going to have to pay the money back. But it is wasteful if you think about how many people may try to take advantage of the system and there are a lot of people who do, including people who are opponents of reform. Same people who steal from medicare who say we shouldnt have government healthcare. Stephanie i also heard somebody on one of the sunday shows talking about i think youve made this point. I dont know the exact numbers but we should keep in mind what a small percentage this is. As you were saying, what is it . 98 of us get Health Insurance. What im saying is this is still a very small percentage of people that will be affected by this. Heres the thing. People are using the exchanges. Were talking about people who apply for Health Insurance on their own now. People in the individual market who dont get access to Health Insurance through work. Or people thats really what it is now. Small businesses who dont have access to discounted plans. Or individuals. And those are the people who will be using the statebased exchanges. The problem is if someone like whats her name, donna . Stephanie brenda. Im sorry. Someone like brenda whose husbands insurance isnt very good, may look for an alternative to get better insurance which may mean going out on the exchange and it may not be something shes technically allowed to do because she does have the option of his insurance through his work. But if his insurance is crappy for lack of a better word, they may look for that. Since it wont be double checked, at least not in the short term it may be worth it for them. Stephanie one of the frustrating things i know, because you obviously were part of getting this done in the first place is you know, i think it was again someone on the sunday shows talking about the environment that there is in washington. You know, in any normal kind of environment where people would Work Together congressionally to fix things, you know what i mean, you could do fixes like this. The problem is there has been such a solid wall of obstruction on healthcare in general you know, and as were seeing on the state by state level with republican governors, you know, i think the point someone was making in a more Perfect World you get in there together and make the legislative fixes to try to make this work with for all americans. Legislative fixes on this level require somebody losing money. Right . It is a profit. Our Healthcare Industry is totally profitbased. Youre talking about hospitals making money because they overcharge. Insurance Companies Making money because they overcharge. Youre talking about Healthcare Providers making money. Medical device manufacturers. Were a huge economic Industrial Complex in our Healthcare Industry here in the United States. And all of these companies contribute money to politicians. So any politician who gets in there and tries to make the system work by bringing down costs and the cutting into end up cutting into somebodys profits. People making profits will fight vehemently against that. Stephanie you were out to lump with us this weekend with my new canadian friends we met on vacation. And you know, when you get talking about healthcare, they literally go we dont i dont the whole for profit thing. It makes a lot of sense from a if you want to talk about a capitalist profitdriven compassionless motivation. You know. It makes a lot of sense. Youre making some of money as humanly possible. It is why Health Insurance companies have monopolies in most states. They compete against each other to see how much they can charge you. Theyre not competing for customers and trying to keep their price down because you need healthcare. Stephanie so far so far, weve gotten good news on that front right . Out here in california and elsewhere in terms of the exchanges and when they do have to compete right . Right. Weve gotten news when they set up the exchanges that the competition is actually going to help to drive down prices. But i just you know, the problem is it is a heavy lift. There are a lot of little nuts and bolts that need to go into place to make the whole machine work as smoothly as possible. I dont know that pushing it off, we pass this in 2010, it doesnt feel like four years but were coming up on four years. Pushing anything back an extra year while we may need to buy some time isnt the best strategy because it is giving people an opportunity to say see, we told you. Thats not what we need right now. We need people to say lets Work Together. Stephanie you wont expect anyone to say why thank you for your flexibility mr. President. How might we help . All right. Scott in albuquerque youre on with jacki. Go ahead. Caller i think you may have answered my question already. I get insurance through my employer and we have two kids. We could save a lot of money if we excluded them from our policy and let them go on to the exchange. Theyre in college so they dont make a whole lot of money. Is that allowed . Do they have to get their insurance through my employer . No. I think they can stay on your plan if you want them to but once theyre independent if theyre filing taxes on their own and theyre individuals theyre welcome to go out on the exchanges and search for Health Insurance on their own. I would imagine they would have some sort of insurance through school. Yeah, its available. Thats usuallily an option. I would have to look up whether or not it is available through school. Whether thats the same thing available through your employer. But you know, theyre not required to stay on your plan. They have the option of staying on your plan. Usually thats good for kids just out of college and want a good job. That may or may not offer benefits that early on. Okay. So it may depend on their dependent status, is that what youre saying . All of this is going to end up getting filed by the i. R. S. In terms of whether or not you need Health Insurance and whether or not you claim them as dependents that, kind of thing. Stephanie i dont have kids, i would say youre extra baggage on mommy and me. We want to go on vacations. We would save several hundred dollars a month. Thats a lot of money. It is a lot of money. If they can find good health you have to consider what kind of coverage theyre going to get. Thats important. If upof with your children has a preexisting condition, these are things covered these are things to consider. What would the benefits be. Stephanie okay. Rob in massachusetts, youre on with jacki. Hi rob. Caller hi, how you doing . My wife, we live in massachusetts. She works in new hampshire. And Health Insurance is like over 300 a week. Im just wondering is it going to get any better in the future . For obamacare . It should. A week is exorbitant. Thats a tremendous amount of money. It should. Once theres more competition within the marketplace. It should be much more affordable. I would imagine, too a lot of times, especially for women were being charged a lot more for the same benefits that men get, especially i would say women of childbearing age. Yeah, it is a family we have two kids. It would have been less. I think it just went up from 200 a week. Theyre trying to raise rates as quickly as possible once before the regulations kick in. Oh, is that what it is . Theyre trying to get as much money as possible before theyre regulated. I would imagine rates will go down once they set up the exchange and they start to take a look at what others are charging for the same benefits. You cant get any customers if youre charging more for the same thing. Stephanie okay. James in jersey. Youre on with jacki. Last one. Caller hi, ive got a question. Say are you a fulltime employee and your Company Offers healthcare. Unfortunately, lets say they pay you low wages 10 an hour. Youre making about 20,000 a year and to qualify lets say they want you to pay like 150 a week for family healthcare. I cant afford that. Im only making 400 a week gross as it is. So you cant afford the healthcare even if you wanted to but if you go on the exchange, you dont get a subsidy because your employer offers healthcare. No, no. It has to be less than 9. 5 of your income. I think it is 9. 5 . You cant it cant be any more than that. Caller if youre only making 400 a week before any taxes are taken out what if you cant afford the 9 . Theyre going to have to decide whether or not it is affordable and if it is unaffordable, you can go out on the exchange. There is an option of applying for waivers. You can say look, i cant afford this. It is not compliant with my cost of living. I need to be able to have cheaper insurance. There will be waivers and exceptions. There will be a way to ask for it. Would you qualify for medicaid . I was thinking about that. Yeah, youll have to make less than 135 of the Poverty Level to qualify for medicaid. Thats where the cutoff is. If you make less than 135 of the Poverty Level you qualify for medicaid. Stephanie all right. Jacki, great stuff. Wow. Lots of questions. That was like speed corner. Yeah. Its true. As we get closer, there will be a ton of questions. Healthcare. Gov has a really good handy tool where you kind of click through and you put in your status and it answers some questions for you. It is not really that dizzying if you go to healthcare. Gov and answer some questions. It it should help you out. Stephanie but then you dont get to talk to pretty nurse jacki. Healthcare. Gov is the web site. Thank you. See you at the top of the hour. There she goes. Jacki schechner. [ applause ] all right. Well talk about this horrific plane crash in San Francisco next as we continue on the Stephanie Miller show. We have to seem like a sexy, Profitable Company and were almost pulling it off. Announcer its the Stephanie Miller show. c] current tv is the place for true stories. With Award Winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines. Real, gripping, current. Documentaries. On current tv. Hey, hey, hey hey, hey, hey blurred lines i know you want it i know you want it but youre a good girl the way you grab me must wanna get nasty stephanie it is the Stephanie Miller show. Welcome to it. 24 minutes after the hour. Wasnt i just on cnn talking about how horribly offended i was by this song . I love this song. It is catchy. Stephanie i do too. You know what is really catchy . Stephanie 1800steph12 the phone number toll free. It is what all of the kids are listening to. Rick in iowa. That was actually alan thickes son. Caller got a question for you. For example bus leaves mexico with mexican driver on board and 100 plus people on board and hes never driven this kind of bus before. Only got 45 hours on it. New route never been this way before. He has a tragic accident. He is subject to american law of some kind or another for this accident. Take the same thing now and transfer it to the tragic accident in San Francisco. Only 45 hours on this plane. Has never landed in San Francisco before. Is this pilot subject to United States law of some kind for injuring or hurting these people . Stephanie i dont know. Let the investigation play out. Stephanie thats what i was going to say. We dont know exactly what happened. Weve been speculating this morning. Was it sleepiness . But somebody was saying he was training and jim is like how about training with no passengers. Maybe a simulator. The whole thing is what i couldnt believe is when you turn on the tv and saw that, the fact that only two people died was first of all incredible. There are six people in critical one of them died she was thrown out of the plane and then run over by an Emergency Vehicle rushing toward the plane which is like many kinds of awful. I thought it was a wind sheer which they discovered in texas where the winds suddenly changes. Sfo airport is built on the bay side of the San Francisco peninsula and if you ever saw a baseball game at Candlestick Park which is right near there the winds played horrible havoc with the balls that were being hit out of the park. Planes are subject to those exact kind of winds at sfo. It is a horrible airport to fly into. Stephanie the Emergency Vehicle thing reminds me remember the horrible crash in the everglades a few years ago . Hearing the stories of people that survived. Then eaten by alligators. Oy. Stephanie for some reason, the pilot lost control of the airplanes altitude in the final seconds. How terrifying if youre on board. There were survivors saying i thought things looked way too close than closer than they should have been. Asiana airlines was voted best overall in 2012 by traveler magazine. The article reading how can an airline with such a stellar record come to grief where neither the weather or another airplane were involved. They dont know about the winds yet. Stephanie whether it was pilot error or not. I was there yesterday and it was a beautiful cloudless fogless, windless day. Theres no wind. Where i was is it inn the city. They have microclimates all over the place. Could have been different down there. Stephanie the ntsb chairwoman. The approach speed was 137 knots and the question was whether or not we had the lowest speed that the crew achieved. I will tell you that the speed was significantly below 137 knots and were not talking about a few knots. They were coming in too slow. Stephanie then we were saying didnt they ask for a do over but it was seven seconds it was 1. 5 seconds before impact. Stephanie the ntsb chairwoman. The call from one of the crew members to increase speed was made approximately seven seconds prior to impact. A call to initiate a go around occurred 1. 5 seconds before impact. Stephanie yeah. Seems a skosh too late. Well, youre supposed to flair about 1,000 yards into the runway. Something like that. And they did that way too early obviously because the tail section hit the seawall and clipped it right off. Stephanie much more of the latest on this whole San Francisco tragedy as we continue on the Stephanie Miller show. Did anyone tell the pilgrims they should selfdeport . No, they said make us a turkey and make it fast. laughter . She gets the comedians laughing. Thats the best thats hilarious. And the thinkers thinking. Okay, so there is wiggle room in the Ten Commandments is what youre telling me. Shes joy behar. 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Eric boehlert from media matters coming up at the top of the hour. 1800steph12 the phone number. John in hollywood florida. Hey, john. Caller good morning. Just kind of misspoke something. He was close but multiplied it by three. The six distance marker for touchdown is 1,000 feet beyond the runway threshold. 1,000 feet. Caller they crossed the flesh hold at 50 feet. Three degrees flight path angle touchdown 1,000 feet later. He was below his target speed which was about 150 miles per hour. Stephanie john, in your caller too slow is not good. Stephanie in your opinion how does this happen . Could it have been pilot error inexperience . Sleepiness . What do you think . Fatigue is always a factionor. The real big issue is unfamiliarity with the aircraft. Practice in a simulator i was an instructor. It is easy for people to get distracted or as you said, fatigue. But supposedly he wasnt the pilot flying. The more experienced pilot was flying but he was you need to have you are your second crew member say youre slow. Youre low. The other pilot is supposed to say correcting, correcting with each of the things. They responded too late. Stephanie yeah. We were speculating obviously a long flight from seoul. It could have been fatigue. Sfo is notoriously tough airport to fly into. But this is on a clear, blue day. You also have to realize that this is, you know, in your third flying lesson ef youre doing a visual approach into the airport lots of visual approaches because they fly into smaller airports. And they practice all the time. Stephanie john, to what degree is it a factor, chris was saying that sfo is water water water, runway. Thats got to be a tougher landing. Well, not really. Its tougher at night because you dont have any of the any other visual clues to it. Boston Logan Airport is the same way. Youre just in a dark, you know, it is a dark hole. And you dont you cant tell whether youre high or low. Stephanie this wasnt a factionor here because it was daytime. It was daytime. Stephanie lets go to kevin in d. C. Caller good morning, lovely stephanie. Two quick shout outs one to the person who emailed you about your sexy calf muscles. I was berating myself. Im excited about that. Get over yourself perv. He said he wants the legs wrapped around his back. Thank you. Stephanie a meeting of the minds, all right. Caller second shoutout. Worlds collide when sue in rockville had me over to her lovely home. Your name may have come up a time or twice. Shes the hottest grandma ever and possibly an even better kisser than you. [ laughter ] stephanie wow. Thats some sexy liberal visual candy. Shes very lovely. You have brought together a very wide and very group of people. Stephanie shes a bit of a trollope. Caller i wanted to say quickly about the nsa thing and again saying that the nsa thing is bad and which we didnt have, jumping up and down screaming that waters wet when i just want to say just hearing jackis corner now which reminds me because of so many other issues peoples healthcare rights in general certainly my rights with what happened, the Supreme Court situation womens reproductive rights, i hope this one issue it is a very, very important issue but i hope this one issue does not make people throw up their hands and not and not and let what happened in 2010, a lot of things we wouldnt have to deal with because people for whatever reason didnt come out like they did in 2008. Stephanie exactly. Imagine how much further we would be on healthcare if it we didnt have the entire Tea Party House caucus. Caller if nothing else, people for that your healthcare alone no matter how invincible you think you are if youre young, youre going to get old at one point. Is it of it strikes me the stuff we talked about could have been solved with a public option which we we could have gotten if we had a different makeup in the congress. Lets talk back to the plane crash. It is about what are we saying 180 injured. A lot of them very serious. Six people in critical condition. Two paralysis because of the broken backs. A lot of broken sternums. If you saw the photographs of the inside of the plane after the crash, the seat rows just pancaked together. Stephanie dr. At San Francisco general. What we did see are patterns of large amounts of abdominal injuries, a huge amount of spine fractures, some which include paralysis. She was also saying there was a lot of road rash like if stephanie people were dragged. She said it was as if a bunch of people came in who had motorcycle accidents at the same time. Clearly the back of the plane. Stephanie here is a passenger. Holding so tight and bang. The impact was so powerful. They have spinal cord injuries. Stephanie thank god they got them out. They were saying the evacuation was done very well because obviously there was fire. Then the plane caught on fire. It was on the right side of the plane. Which is why they use the chutes on the left. Stephanie if they had not gotten them out that quickly jim in vegas youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Hi jim. Caller her, stephanie. There were some things in error about what the Flight Instructor said. Also what jim said. Ive been into San Francisco multiple times. Ive been flying for 32 years. It is not a difficult airport to fly into. What happened and the chairwoman of the ntsb said that yesterday. They let their speed get too low. That induces a wing stall. Dont confuse it with an engine stall. It is a wing stall. Not enough air. It is going over the wing to keep the aircraft in the air. Stephanie didnt the head of the airline say it was not an engine problem . No. Yes. He said that. But that doesnt give you the whole story. The only issue it is clear to any pilot what happened. They stalled the airplane. Now, the only question is why. There is an auto landing on the 777 where the computer does it all but the pilot, the pilot in command still has the responsibility of monitoring that system. As the system screws up, then they can take over with the push of a button and manually fly the airplane and they can do that. The only issue is stephanie is why. Is why they didnt do that. It is not anything else. Again, there is no microenvironments coming into sfo. Ive done it too many times. There just isnt. Came in with too steep angling of attack and too little speed and bam. Stephanie lets hope this isnt another drunk pilot story. I dont think so. Stephanie dont doh you take a little whiff of the cockpit . Used to be you would smell cigarette smoke up there. The whole plane my wife used to be a flight attendant. Flights to japan the air was just thick with cigarette smoke. Smoking constantly. They had to go to the cockpit and breathe through the oxygen mask to keep from passing out. Stephanie a passenger on the flight as well. I was look out the window. I was just looking. It looked like we were about to land in the water. Stephanie can you imagine . The neighboring Airline Pilot and the San Francisco control tower. We see people [ indiscernible ] he said people are walk outside the airplane right now. People are struggling. We have Emergency Vehicle responding. Stephanie i dont know what the footage you were watching but he said oh, my god about 25 times a row. The guy that was filming the landing. Stephanie right. Crash witness on the ground. We heard a really loud boom. And before we knew it, the plane had come to a stop about 50 yards down. We heard a second loud boom or explosion and all of a sudden, we saw a lot of black smoke going back up into the sky. Stephanie ron in new york. Youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Hi ron. Caller its don. I just wanted to ask you about this postponing. Does that mean that employees dont have to pay for the insurance now . And the workers who used to have the insurance paid for, now they have to pay for it. And you just say stephanie wait, what . Caller mandate for employers postponed. Stephanie has been postponed. Right. Caller that means the employees have to pay for their own insurance for that year. They have before. Employees pay for their own insurance now through their paychecks. 100 of it . Nothing changes until the mandate goes through which has been pushed back a year. What are you talking about . Caller so for 2014 things stay the same. Caller if theyre employers decide not to insure them because they dont have to stephanie right. It will stay the same. Exactly the same as it has been. Stephanie all right. It has been a long weekend. We did not spray the troll be gone. I dont think you can consider him a troll. He tried. It is a legitimate question. He thought he caught us. 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What was the conclusion . What did the doctor say . What was the diagnosis . Do i need to be worried . What . You have the clap . What . Stephanie 1800steph12. Dont just leave me hangin like that. Stephanie 1800steph12. It is time for good news, isnt it . 1800steph12 the phone number toll free. When the doctor says you dont have so and so. Thats good news. Stephanie okay. Vivian says steph, my husband the engineer think it was a failure of the automatic landing system. Regarding the San Francisco crash. Which depends on gps. The pilot must have been getting wrong data and realized the error too late. Scott in oklahoma, youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Hey, scott. Caller how are you doing . Stephanie go ahead. Caller nobody mentions the airtraffic controllers because of the sequester maybe, i dont know. But the airtraffic controller should have known the airspeed and the elevation way before it was too late. Stephanie right. That will be the question. The airtraffic controllers are juggling a lot of balls at the same time. You can see how they might have might have missed that. Stephanie right. Jim, you are a soccer fan. [ nbc nightly news ] yikes, they take their soccer seriously. Brazil referee decapitated after stabbing a player. Wow as you do. Stephanie yes. Football spectator ins northern brazil decapitated a referee after he fatally stabbed a player for refusing to leave the pitch. As they call it. In soccer. An angry mob stormed the field an amateur game. They take the amateur sports seriously. Stabbed the player to death. Excuse me, they stoned the referee to death and then decapitated him. They quartered him and decapitated him. They left the quartered part out of the story. Yeah. Wow. Stephanie it started when the referee and player got into a fistfight after the player refused to leave the pitch. He pulled out a knife and then the stoning and [ whatever ] stephanie all right. So that happened. Well, thats brazil. Well, they were hooligans. Stephanie seems a little mild. Soccer hooliganism for that particular story. Stephanie when the referees head becomes the ball. Thats beyond hooliganism. Stephanie just a skosh bit. In the aftermath of the Supreme Court Marriage Equality rulings this is am i way ahead im a good two to three minutes ahead of my time, arent i . Most of the time. Stephanie maybe this is good for the march toward equality because it will create a legal crazy quilt. And here it is. The first story in the l. A. Times this weekend married samesex couples uncertain about their taxes the defense of marriage act has been struck down but at issue is whether tax benefits will be granted in all 50 states or only state where is gay marriages are legal. Somehow this is going to have to be fixed. Samesex couples and their tax advisers anxiously awaiting the Obama Administration to answer a key regulatory question when it struck down doma. At issue was whether legally married samesex couples will receive equal tax and Social Security benefits or only in the 13 states where such americans are legal. It is a mess i tell you. The people in limbo are those who live in a state where their marriage is not recognized. Said an accountant. The i. R. S. Is discussing this but still up in the air. Federal laws and regulations have differing laws for determining lawful marriage. While some look to the lawful american, others look to the law in the state of their current residence or domicile. This creates a complication that scalia highlighted in his dissent. He sometimes is inadvertently helpful, isnt he . Image an pair of women who marry in albany and then move to alabama. Im stuck in imagine the two women part. Stephanie sorry. Move on, jim. Married. Honeymoon. There is the sex part in new york. Im sure alabama has pictured two women together a whole lot. Stephanie thats probably why he wasnt paying teengts finer legal points. Im sorry. What now . That would be funny if that actually happened. Go back to the two girls again. Like that penis pump judge. Stephanie right. Oh yeah, thats it. That will be tough to figure out. Okay. I would hand down my decision but my hands are busy right now. Stephanie my hands are down there. Going back, imagine a pair of women who marry in albany, new york, then move to alabama which does not recognize any party of americans of the same sex. When the couple files their tax return, it may state laws controls. Their state of celebration which recognizes the marriage or their state of domicile which does not. A mess. [ buzzer ] a mess i tell you. A coalition of gay Rights Groups put out after after doma advisory council. If you live in a state that discriminates against samesex couples, the Supreme Court decision striking down part of doma does not mean your state must respect your marriage or that you will be eligible for all marriagebased federal benefits. Legal morass is what im saying. Other than that, how did you enjoy the play . Stephanie they urged the Obama Administration to adopt the benefits and they appear to have the president on their side. He said after the ruling, it is my personal believe im speaking as a president not as a lawyer if youre married in massachusetts and you move somewhere else, youre still married. Lets hope that they figure this out sooner rather than later. By the way [ battle hymn of republic ] salon. Com wrote a piece about scalia. Scalia face to embrace true democracy. Why is he mocking concern for the dignity of individuals . Because hes a douche. In my opinion. On june 19th [ speaking spanish ] stephanie hes a douche. On june 19, salon writes dignitaries gather to reveal a statue of Frederick Douglass. As it relates to this whole ruling, Supreme Court and the doma case, Justice Scalia accused the majority of doing nothing less than an assault on democracy. Oh, dear. Stephanie the political philosophy is the major the majority wants should be that whole thing. Thank you. According to scalia, el douche it interferes with the majority. Hes down with putting the minority rights to a majority vote. Fundamental flaw in democracy douglas wrote was it violated the principle in which democracy can be based. The equal dignity of each being. All that mocks the concern for the personhood and dignity of individuals and contends that only not only should the government be free to exclude samesex couples from the institution of marriage but he reminds he believes the government should be empowered if they are making love in the privacy of their own home. The texas case. Sodomy case. I was hoping wouldnt there had to have been a sodomy police to enforce that for straight couples as well . What are you doing in there . Stephanie bed check. Note to straight people, oral sex is considered sodomy. Stephanie oh no. Genuine democracy it finishes like the conception of democracy defended by Frederick Douglass is far more worthy of celebration this 4th of july weekend. Thank you salon. [ applause ] nicely done. Nicely written. Eric boehlert from media matters coming up next on the the Stephanie Miller show. c] [ theme ] stephanie all right. Current tv hour number three. Hello, everybody. Eric boehlert from media matters coming up. Jacki schechner. Yes . Stephanie not your role of nurse jacki but bff jacki, we went to a delightful block party on the 4th of july, did we not . It was really cute. Stephanie well, you know my main question was are adults allowed to use the bouncy house. When you tried to fight your way in, there was a little bit of an issue. Stephanie drunken fisticuffs. Stephanie, women in their 50s should not use bouncy houses. Especially when youre carrying sparklers. Youre going to break a hip. Stephanie the damn kids would not clear out, Jacki Schechner. Ruining all my fun. It was a little chaotic but we managed to drag her out in one piece. Stephanie thank you. Here she is, my bff, Jacki Schechner in the current news center. Good morning, everybody. At least 42 people are dead and another 300 injured in cairo today as the Egyptian Army opened fire on Muslim Brotherhood supporters during morning prayers in front of the Republican Guard headquarters. A Muslim Brotherhood spokesman tells al jazeera that army and Police Forces just started firing on demonstrators where they were staging a sitin. The military is blaming a terrorist group pointing out the two officers are among the dead. Unrest continues as the Nations Interim leadership is having trouble working out who should be the next prime minister. Meanwhile, the u. S. Is hesitating to call the overthrow of former president Mohamed Morsi a coup because u. S. Law says if a countrys military gets rid of a democraticallyelected leader, then the u. S. Has to pull its money and right now we gave egypt 1. 5 billion in aid every year. The late new jersey senator Frank Lautenberg never hid his dislike for newark mayor cory booker especially when booker made it clear he planned to run for senate before lautenberg said whether or not he was going to run for reelection in 2014. Now lautenbergs widow and his four children are carrying on his antibooker legacy. Theyve issued a Statement Today endorsing representative Frank Pallone for senate. The democratic primary august 13th special election in october. Lautenbergs family says that voters should stick with frank because pallone stands on the right side of the issues that lautenberg cared most about. Were back with more show for you after the break. Stay with us. Did anyone tell the pilgrims they should selfdeport . No, they said make us a turkey and make it fast. laughter . She gets the comedians laughing. Thats the best thats hilarious. And the thinkers thinking. Okay, so there is wiggle room in the Ten Commandments is what youre telling me. Shes joy behar. Ya, i consider you jewtalian. Okay, whatever you want. Who plays kafka . Who saw kafka . Who ever saw kafka . laughter . Asking the tough questions. Chris brown, i mean you wouldnt let one of your daughters go out with him. Absolutely not. You would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me . Absolutely singing i take lipitor, thats it. Are you improving your lips . laughter . When shes talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. It looks like Anthony Wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. His what in the ring . His hat. Always outspoken, joy behar. And the best part is that current will let me say anything. What the hell were they thinking . Only on current tv. If you believe in states rights but still support the drug war you must be high. Viewpoint digs deep into the issues of the day. 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You can email us all there executive producer chris lajoie lavoie, voice deity jim ward. It is monday. You know what that means. Eric boehlert. Hurts so good come on, baby Eric Boehlert. Hurts so good stephanie lets dive into the rightwing world. I dont know what that means. Stephanie Eric Boehlert from media matters who we love. Stephanie good morning Eric Boehlert. Happy belated 4th of july. Hey, thanks you too. Stephanie you said telling right wing commentary on Independence Day can our military tell obama hes no longer president. Hoping for an egyptiantype coup right . Sort of seeing whats going seeing whats going on oversees then trying to imagining, hoping the same crowds were in the streets. This insurrectionism, this fantasy of overthrowing obama you know, it is going to be there until the day he swears in whoever takes over. Stephanie i cant remember what it was. Wasnt it like the first week of his presidency, people were talking about impeachment. For what now . Impeachment was definitely on the clinton table. Whats sort of unique to obama is the whole lets do the armed insurrection thing. We didnt really hear that much under the previous democratic president. This has been almost since day one, hey lets arm a mob and take over the white house. Far more dangerous and radical than impeachment which you know, even then sort of out of the mainstream. In case you havent noticed hes black. Stephanie yeah. So by the way immigration, a lot of people talking about the immigration bill. You tweeted so the electoral future of the g. O. P. Is in the hands of the house g. O. P. And how it handles the immigration bill. Who could go wrong . It is amazing right. It seemed like this was a done deal after they looked at the results of the latino vote in the last election but now it is looking likely it wont get done right . Within 48 showers sean happen sit going on fox saying we need to change our positions on hispanics latinos meaning immigration. Purely for political reasons he didnt pretend he had a change of heart about immigration. We have to win more latino votes. And so it is interesting. Heres the irony. The Republican House you know, republicans love the fact that it has been radically obstructionist. Wont allow obama to do anything with his agenda. Stood in the way of twoterm president the way no other house in congress has ever done before. Just adopting the radical rules and committed not to getting anything done. But by the way, we kind of want to get the immigration bill done and now they cant change this monster because it is not equipped to do anything to get anything passed to have serious debate, to come together to make some sort of negotiated deal. So you know, literally if you talk to you know, the professionals, the future the electoral future of the party is riding on this bill. Theyre leaving it with this completely purposely dysfunctional body that is now just wider not to get anything done. It would be incredibly ironic if this frankenstein theyve created ends up dooming their future. Stephanie i saw a cartoon over the weekend. They said we built a wall to keep them out. It just says latino vote. The Republican Party. I think it was david brooks, conservative on tv yesterday was it meet the press yesterday, eric, i dont know if you saw it saying like how can they be against this bill. It has all of the conservative supposedly all of the conservative sort of things that they wanted done in there. It raises doesnt the cbo say it reduces the deficit. It creates jobs, right . How could they be opposed to a disaster aid for the state of new jersey and new york . That made no sense. Why would you back gun the gun the background check bill which 90 of americans supported. No logic as to why the House Republicans stand in the way and obstruct and have adopted this radical behavior. It is too late for republicans to now to try to reason with House Republicans saying look, this is a conservative bill. Its got what you want. Odds are you know, the crazies in the house went to the Republican Party to which fox news has cheered because its been you know, thwarting obama at every turn. Now theyre going to try to reason with House Republicans with the tea party members. Good luck to everybody. These people are committed to doing nothing at this point. Stephanie not to be politically incorrect but we were laughing a little little bit on meet the press, raoul labrador. Retriever, i cant remember his name. Republican. An accent talking about how we need to keep them out of the country. Theres not enough security and this is who they have on the republican side, right . Lacking a certain selfawareness. Yeah. You know. The immigration battle, you know, its rubio versus Laura Ingraham fox cant quite decide. You know murdoch seems to be wanting to push Immigration Reform. He thinks as a foreigner he thinks america should have open arms. He sees what the future voting patterns are. You still have the pockets at fox news that have grown up hating basically as a policy, hating immigrants so theyre conflicted. And so fox news is conflicted. Fox news doesnt have a voice and oh by the way therefore the Republican Party is conflicted and doesnt have a voice on the immigration bill. They go hand in hand these days. Stephanie by the way your tweet, you said i ask again if texas is such a red state why does governor perry have to call special sessions to jam bills through. Hashtag wendy davis. It is a good question, right . People point to him as texas as being this incredibly, you know, the reddest state. Republicans run the place. I think a lot of people didnt understand which is the special session, the reason the abortion bills werent passed in regular in that they needed 2 3 in the Texas State Senate. They said were going to waive the rules. Were going pure majority. Im not sure a lot of people understand the reason the radical abortion bills are being passed now. Is that they rigged the rules for the special session. So i think it shows even in texas, they cant abide by the rules to get these bills passed and it is probably not you know, as deeply red as we think if he has to caught special sessions. Stephanie by the way somebody was talking about this over the weekend too. The i. R. S. Thing. You said this a couple of weeks ago but it ends with a whimper just like benghazi. You tweeted ha ha. So obama ordered i. R. S. To target rightwingers and some liberal groups. Yeah, that makes sense. Hashtag worst scandal ever. All of this heat and noise right, eric . Once again nothing. There is nothing to it. Nothing, nothing, nothing. It is deja vu the clinton era all over again. It is travel gate. It is white water. The republicans get control of the congressional investigative committees. You know. They start thumping their chests. The press enamored by a possible scandal. Darrell issa cherry picks transcripts from interviews, the press runs with it. All of it is going nowhere. So the whole thing fell apart about ten days ago when we realized that democrat liberal groups are also targeted and then a couple of days later the ig said they werent really targeted and that was the point of my tweet which was wait a minute. The entire scandal the entire conspiracy was that this came from the white house. There was this invisible hand from the west wing telling the i. R. S. To go after these groups. By the way they told them to go after some liberal groups, too. I guess to make it look good. They had the whole thing planned out. The whole thing was nonsense. Just like, you know, the coverup of benghazi was not they tweeted last night, this is why i love right wing nut jobs. I was looking at the normal spots on the blog. One of the right wing sites had written about how there hadnt been a full investigation of benghazi yet. As we just as were approaching the 10month anniversary. Stephanie eric, great stuff as always. See you next week. All right byebye. Stephanie 16 minutes after the hour. Right back on the Stephanie Miller show. Ooh i like her. Announcer its the Stephanie Miller show. Young turks i think the number 1 thing than viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. They know that im not bsing them for some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. When the democrats are wrong, they know im going to be the first one to call them out. Cenk on air whats unacceptable is how washington continues to screw cenk off air i dont want the middle class taking the brunt of the spending cuts and all the different programs that wind up hurting the middle class. 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Welcome to it. 20 minutes after the hour. 1800steph12 the phone number. Toll free from anywhere. Roy in washington. On the San Francisco plane crash. Hello, roy. Hi, steph and the mooks. Im a year and a half retired commercial pilot. I flew the 777 the last ten years of my career. Theres confusion about the gps. An ils is the instrument landing system. It has transmitters on the ground next to the runway. They send up a glide slope and a center line to the airplane. The airplane instruments can hook on to that. The auto pilot can hook on to that and it can fly the plane down to a coupled approach where they let the airplane flair and the pilot takes control once the plane gets slow enough to taxi or if it gets away from the center line go in between their lights on the runway. The gps is based off a satellite and it can get you down accurately to about 200 feet on the center line but so far at least a year and a half ago when i retired they werent authorizing lower than 200 feet or doing a coupled approach. Might have been relying on the gps too much . They should have been able to put up the gps. The ils wasnt on that runway. It has been out for a month so they didnt have that and they didnt have the glide slope from the instrument, the transmitter on the ground. However, the gps provides with you a glide slope visual in the cockpit you can fly down to. You could fly it down to 200 feet and take over manually and fly it the last bit to the runway. But youre going to be crossing the flesh hold at 50 feet. Also you have bars that are either red or white and if youre too high, theyre white and if youre too low, it is red. You try to keep between the two bars so you have the tar bar white and the bottom bar red and then you are at a 3 glide slope coming into the runway. For the bigger wide bodies but longer airplane, the gears are a lot further back. Youre like about 50 feet above where your gear is when youre coming in for the approach. Stephanie whats your guess as to what happened . You know, that airplane has all of that good automation and pilots will fly with all of the automation and it is important to have it on. And especially the auto throttles. And the auto throttles always back up the speed and theyll never let you get below what speed is selected which should be the approach speed plus five knots or 10 or 15 knots if you got a gust involved. So that would always keep it up. You have your hands on the throttles. Youre controlling the plane but youre letting the auto throttle move forward. If it feels the speed is getting too slow. If it senses the speed it getting too slow. If they have the auto pilots engaged, it never would have gotten slow like it did. It dropped at the end because it had no airspeed. The wings werent producing the lift. It started sliding down. There wasnt enough pull on the wings to keep it from falling down. Stephanie all right. Out how i know this was going to turn into plane talk. I understood very little of it. Youre saying uhhuh like you agree with everything he said. Stephanie i was hoping for a more layperson explanation. It was my understanding when i took this job there would be no discussion of piloting. Stephanie right. All right. Back to snowden. Russias official says venezuela is the best solution for snowden. A Senior Member of the Russian Parliament said the political asylum in venezuela would be the best solution for Edward Snowden. In other words,. [ speaking spanish ] stephanie just saying get get yes to the t. G. I. Fridays in the moscow airport. If there is one. He cant buy anything in dutyfree because doesnt have a plane ticket. The comments came a few hours after venezuela and nicaragua extended the first firm offers to snowden who has been holed up in the airport for two weeks. They seem to reflect the kremlins increasing desire to be rid of him. [ laughter ] stephanie sanctuary for snowden, venezuela would be the best solution. Said mr. Pushkov. Countries that want to poke the United States with a sharp object. The United States and venezuela actually just began talks to a reconciliation, progress for the senior Obama Administration would end if venezuela sheltered mr. Snowden could it continues at the spy nsa. At the spy nsa. It continues at the spy nsa. Okay. Young men, theres no place you can go i said young man since your name starts with snow you cant stay there and then russia wont find any way to have a good time its time to quit as a spy nsa its time to start with your trial nsa they take everything you have said on the phone, you can hang up and wait for your drone spy nsa its time to start with your trial stephanie thank you, Rocky Mountain mike. [ applause ] oh golly. By the way [ nbc nightly news ] you know what . Still some of the exgay activists out there. I thought they had all closed up shop. Barbarians need to be disciplined. Stephanie apparently there are still many who need to be disciplined. Exguy activists are certain that kennedy and kagan are on the down low. Does he have experience with them . Stephanie well, this just in. President obama addresses kennedy and kagan are on the down low meaning gay but you know secretly on the dl. [ nbc nightly news ] stephanie what the kids are saying on the dl. Roberts has those pictures from fire island. Stephanie and that white sweater, oh, my god. Presenting the pie. Who wants some pie. Stephanie how do we know . Because exgay activist greg quinlan says so. The president of parents and friends of exgays and gays. He told his personal story of having once been a supporter of gay Rights Groups like human rights campaign. He said the devil made him do it but now hes reformed and a proud leader of the exgay movement. Is he the only one left . We should applaud him then. Which need to focus group their acronyms better. Stephanie two founders of the first one ran off together in a really gay way. In a john roberts gay island way. During his tenure volunteering for hr, quinlan said he learned kennedy and kagan are secretly calling them black robed nazis with is a good analogy except they started killing the gays first so really, thats kind of a there are a lot of people in pink triangles as well as yellow stars. Stephanie quinlan said they used the court to accommodate their own predilections including kennedys predilection on the down low. President obama, the exgay leader added is also a down low president. Wow. Those people are still out there. How about this one. Chris, could you take your organ out for me, please . Right away, ms. Miller. Stephanie good luck with that. Karstor wants one million men to take a pledge to swear off porn. Dont start in utah. Stephanie a florida pastor wants men to stop looking at pornography. Hes calling the movement one million men. I would like a pony. Stephanie pastor wants you to go on guess we know what kind of porn jim watches. To make a strong commitment to never watch pornography ever again. He has some important recommendations to keep your children from being exposed to porn including canceling all of your premium cable channels and destroying your computer to get your rocks off. Thank you mediaite. 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What the hell were they thinking . I found you on tv. You look good on tv. Stephanie it is the Stephanie Miller show. Welcome to it. 34 minutes after the hour. 1800steph12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. Very sad. The solemn procession of hearses carrying the 19 Fire Fighters killed in the arizona wildfire. The lone survivor, Brendan Mcdonough yesterday. Coming together, supporting all of us, it means a lot. All coming together. He want to say thank you. First time weve heard from him since the tragedy. Stephanie the stories they were all huddled together because thats what theyre supposed to do when they deploy the shelters. Sad, sad, sad story. All right. So lots of by the way the other breaking news yesterday Teresa Heinz Kerry has been flown to boston for further medical treatment. Ive not heard what we dont know yet. Stephanie i hope they leave john kerry alone about being on his boat briefly during the egyptian thing. Is there going to be a wind sailing commercial on fox news . Secretary of state john kerry was caught boating on wednesday. [ nbc nightly news ] the middle of the military coup in egypt. The state department denied he was on his boat. All reports to the contrary completely inaccurate. He was on his boat only briefly as he spent most of the day in meetings and on the phone. I still think hes a really good secretary of state. I do, too. Stephanie hes on his boat for five minutes then it wouldnt be he wouldnt be completely incommunicado on his boat. There are devices that allow you to communicate. Stephanie thats whats going to be on fox. It was all weekend. Stephanie was it . Good. Its important. Hey, we missed this news last week in celebrity stack. Cher says tom cruise is in her top five lovers. Thats surprising. Stephanie lovers of hers, apparently. Yes. Stephanie she sexually spoke of tom and said they were pretty hot and heavy for a little minute. [ laughter ] a little minute. Well. Not going there. Stephanie she said he was in her top five best he was in her top five best lovers of alltime. Apparently five quickest. Oh, come on. No, thats not what she meant. Stephanie gawker said she is probably telling the truth. Shes the best person to lie on your behalf. Theyre speculating. Also she admitted she has had a lesbian lover in her past. [ dramatic ] hello. Are there pictures . Who hasnt, she said. Stephanie indeed. Rock on, cher. Stephanie only woman she would not is a woman in a wrinkled green pashmina. You know what . Last night someone tweeted to cher why are you wearing cargo pants in she tweeted back why not . Stephanie good for her. Why are you wearing a green pashmina . Why not stephanie i should have said that. Well, your neighbor is a big cher fan apparently. Stephanie yes. Yes. Heard that song a few times now. Can i have some love music please . Tom cruise part two jim. Tom cruise has penned a heartfelt letter to katie holmes. He has allegedly written an emotional letter to katie holmes. That ship has sailed. Move on. Stephanie hes hoping to reestablish a bond with his exwife. And is reported to have penned the heartfelt letter in hopes of resolving tension i wonder what the tension could be about a source told look magazine thats still around . What . They must be online now. Stephanie look, were still here a source told look magazine i think it is something tom has been thinking about a lot recently, especially as july was approaching, he has recognized katie will always be the love of his life. Can i say perhaps not the sharpest journalist at look magazine. Look look at that. Look what we made up. Okay. Stephanie all right. Okay. So shes not suppressive. Stephanie in her hiphop news. [ nbc nightly news ] you know how many years ive been waiting to say that. I have just such a story in my hand. Pharell, will. I. Am didnt he do the vocals on blurred lines . Stephanie yes my new favorite. The thing i was horrified about on cnn until i realized i loved it. Did he the vocals on daft punks get lucky which is the song of the summer. Stephanie right both of them. Pharell does not like that will. I. Am the box. Stephanie hes suing the black eyed peas rapper in whats becoming a trademark which now involves dr. Seuss. For bringing it up. Ifpharrell recently launched a Youtube Channel and hes pissed will. I. Am is trying to block him from using the name because will. I. Am thinks he owns i am. According to pharrell, will has sent him a cease and desist letter saying he owns rights to all of the things i am. He owns thailand . Stephanie he sued will in an effort to stop will from stopping him. Can you do that . Stephanie that was the waste of the headline in other hiphop news. You should have tucked that away for better use. Stephanie did you see the pictures of keira Kyra Sedgwicks bloody nonfinger. She cut the tip of her finger off. Stephanie i would not be thrilled if my husband had tweeted a picture of that. Kevin bacon shared shots of Kyra Sedgwick she sliced off the tip of her finger who then tweeted the picture of her. Shes sitting there looking decidedly unhappy with the bloody bandage. Two photos. He said kale isnt always healthy if you chop the end of your finger off he wrote with a picture of the actress. That was a little bit snarky for the situation, i think. Stephanie im guessing she he was suggesting she should stick with bacon. Stephanie i see what you did there. [ circus ] bacon usually comes presliced you dont have to use a knife. Stephanie exactly. Looky here, jim. Mick jagger. [ nbc nightly news ] the Rolling Stones frontman allegedly feeling the pressure to wed his designer girlfriend. Who is about eight feet tall. Stephanie really . In heels. Hes much taller than shes much taller. Stephanie hes been dating her for 12 years. She has been on micks case nonstop to get married. Doesnt he turn 70 this month . Pretty much. Stephanie im going to guess that she is younger than he is . Really . Stephanie yes. I think youre exaggerating. Looks like a little boy next to her in heels. Shes rather tall. [ nbc nightly news ] stephanie okay. All right. Lots more to get to. Well talk more about this plane crash and much more. 42 minutes after the hour. Right back on the Stephanie Miller show. If you believe in states rights but still support the drug war you must be high. Viewpoint digs deep into the issues of the day. Do you think there is any chance well ever hear the president even say the word carbon tax . With an opened mind. Has the time finally come for real Immigration Reform . And a distinctly satirical point of view. But you mentioned great leadership so i want to talk about donald rumsfeld. laughter cutting throught the clutter of todays top stories. This is the savior of the Republican Party . I mean really . With a unique perspective. Teddy rosevelt was a weak asmatic kid who never played sports until he was a grown up. laughter . And lots of fancy buzz words. Family values, speding, liberty, economic freedom, hardworking moms, crushing debt, cute little puppies. If Wayne Lapierre can make up stuff that sounds logical while making no sense. Hey, so can i. Once again friends, this is live tv and sometimes these things happen. Watch the show. Only on current tv. Alright, in 15 minutes were going to do the young turks. I think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. They know that im not bsing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. When the democrats are wrong, they know that im going to be the first one to call them out. They can question whether im right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. This show is about being up to date, staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. In reality its not like they actually care. This is purely about political grandstanding. I know you want it but youre a good girl you way you grab me must want to get nasty what . What are you arguing against this song for . What is the problem with it . Stephanie the video is horribly sexist. Ive never seen the video. Stephanie lady on the street and a freak in the bed. Stephanie 47 minutes after the hour. 1800steph12 toll free. Whats sexist about the video . Of it you have to watch it. He blows smoke in her face. [ whatever ] maybe she likes it. Maybe she deserved it. Stephanie you know you want it. Cancer from secondhand smoke. Take it. Jim, weve been watching the zimmerman stuff all morning. You think hes going to walk really . I dont know. The prosecution hasnt been the best in the world. Amazing that you know, it is so obvious. He was the guy with the gun. So even if trayvon tried to defend himself with a bag of skittles or whatever theres the only reason he would have attacked him was because he was following him with a gun. Stephanie right, exactly. It makes no sense. They had his mother on. His mother on to say oh, yes that was george yelling help, help. I have a gun. You have skittles. Help, i have a gun. Im going to use it. Stephanie terry in madison, wisconsin. Hello, terry. Caller good morning. Stephanie good morning. Go ahead. Caller well, what i would like to bring up is the idea that fox news didnt seem to bring up the reading of the story to the children when 911 was happening by president bush and also the thought that often president reagan was president when he was president especially later in his career. Stephanie say that one more time . Caller president reagan wasnt necessarily present in the room even when he was later on in his career. Alzheimers. Caller right. Which is sad. Hes comparing it to john kerry on the boat. Stephanie like jim said, it is not like hes incommunicado. Hes secretary of state. Theyll be able to contact him on the boat. Stephanie i think so. Okay. Gawker bringing us the story omg, rich people are going below is that illegal . Is that a line of demarcation in manhattan . Stephanie according to the New York Times. The quoteunquote gaggles of thurstons kentucky one get some vichyssoise on the corner of this little town . What a picturesque little east village you have. The upper east side, theyre getting downtown apartments. Apparently brook gardner needed it sounds like a rich name. Downtown is livelier. We feel like weve been in milan for the weekend. A lot more colorful. Im not sure what im saying. Stephanie the times notes muffy and thurston and their other ridiculously named friends are displacing the flocks of young new yorkers who might have once lived in the east village. Lambert said you can go out to dinner and you dont have to be dressed. You dont have to wear jewelry. What . You have to wear jewelry to eat in new york . Stephanie above 59th street i guess you do. They dont have a chipotle . Stephanie im going to guess no. Bejeweled muffy. Extra beef please. Stephanie okay. All right. [ nbc nightly news ] florida woman assaults officer with an unwanted kiss on the nose. Thats adorable. Thats an adorable assault. Stephanie like a puppy dog. After being called to a house on the report of disturbance last saturday a florida woman kiss an officer on the nose. Peggy hill encountered the deputies when they came to her house after a fence dispute with a neighbor. The deputy wiped her is saliva off and arrested her. She was arrested for battery of a police officer. Battery . Stephanie admitted she had a few glasses of wine before officers came to her property. So im assuming after a few glasses of wine, a kiss becomes a kiss is still a kiss. She might have thought it was a peck on the nose. But she really liquid it or something. Stephanie it was more like a nose lick than a kiss. [ nbc nightly news ] stephanie after 4th of july weekend, this is depressing. Hangovers cost america about 1. 90 per drink according to gawker. Excessive drinking how does that work . Stephanie excessive drinking costs article is a big buzz kill. Excessive drinking costs the American Economy more than 220 million a year according to the center for Disease Control and prevention. Which is enough to make you really need a drink according to gawker. The fine folks over at the atlantic cost the economy about 1. 90 a drink. 72 of that around 160 billion comes from lost productivity at work. We slog through no matter what. You could lose my liver as home plate right now. [ laughter ] stephanie dont blame yourselves america. You tired weak, hungover masses. About 15 of the binge drinking public is responsible for around 17 of the total Economic Cost of drinking. Were shouldering the blow. For all of you buzz kills out there. All right. Post4th of july happy clappy news from the daily piece. America is not doomed. America is not doomed. [ battle hymn of republic ] really . Stephanie who knew. Ive been watching too much fox news. I was under the impression america is doomed. It is doomish. Stephanie this is very happy clappy. The latest jobs numbers arent the only blow to the theory that the u. S. Is doomed. Daniel grows on why americas prospects are brightening while other countries struggle. I painted my fingernails red and blue. Youre one of those . Stephanie while i was driving. It did not look good but it was patriotic. Daniel writes the small industry of writers pundits historians who specialize continues to turn out new product. As the rest of the world goes to hell, the u. S. Is standing tall. China is slowing down rapidly. Insatiable demand for Natural Resources are downshifting. Brazil is struggling. Through it all u. S. Economy continues to chug along. The expansion of little predicted has entereddity fifth year. Economic growth is not fast enough for anyones like. Thats what you get when you deleverage and when government austerity becomes part of the problem. The Government Employment has fallen by a million. How many times have we said that . Public sector jobs had been even where they were during the bush years, our unemployment numbers would be if they werent trying to destroy the post office. Aaccidently slandered on i accidentally slandered on fox news saying the dr. Jobs were strong right now. I claim this network in the name of mars. Stephanie hard to take anything he says seriously. But still. Economic selfconfidence is returning and theres good reason for it with four years of growth under our belt. Americans in the aggregate are doing much better than in 2008 and 2009. Everyone is doing a much better job keeping up with financial obligations, credit card delinquencies are down to levels not seen since the 1990s. Personal bankruptcies are down 14 . American consumers hitting the malls. Terrorists have not won. Retail sales set a new record and car sales the biggest Retail Sector shifting into higher gear. Rising demand is leading to fewer people getting laid off. Car sales shifting into higher gear. Stephanie unemployment claims trending steadily downward. The number of people on unemployment is off 22 . Housing now becoming a source of strength. Remember it was a disaster. The housing sector now steadily contributing Economic Growth and employment. Blah, blah blah. Today weve got more people working, paying higher taxes thanks to the expiration of the payroll tax holiday and tax increases on high income earners. Improvements in housing helping propel payments to freddie and fannie. The budget ef deficit will come in at 642 billion a decline of more than 40 from last year. Are we gonna hear that mentioned . No. Not on fox news. Stephanie were spending too much caucus. Yes, there are significant issues. Washington doesnt work, daniel writes largely because the Republican Party cant or wont participate in governance. Imagine getting a little help from the congressional caucus at all. Government assistance. Rapidly growing Global Economy have brought the u. S. A great distance but if the economy is going to enjoy another 48 months of growth, the private sector will have to do its part. The next form of stimulus, the only remaining form will have to come from companies. We dont need americas bosses to do anything radical like double the wames of their employees like henry ford did. They have to rechannel a portion of the cashier marked for dividends, stock buybacks and executive compensation into paychecks. Happy clappy news. Hooray. Stephanie very exciting. Unless of course thanks, obama. Stephanie yeah, thanks a lot, obama. Where are the jobs . Stephanie we could be getting a little bit of help on any kind from the republicans. I mean really. Things are good unless of course you were on a flight to San Francisco. [ screaming ] yikes. The ntsb chairman this weekend. The approach speed was 137 knots and what the question was whether or not we had the lowest speed that the crew achieved. I will tell you that the speed was significantly below 137 knots and were not talking about a few knots. Close to stall speed. It is a pain in the ass to drive to San Francisco but im glad i did this weekend. Imagine if you had driven to seoul. That would have really sucked. Stephanie other thing we learned this morning. We have a huge percentage of pilots or people that pretend to be pilots and call in. I heard more Technical Information than ive ever heard in my entire life just this morning. Okay. Ntsb chairman again real quick. A call from one of the crew members to increase speed was made approximately seven seconds prior to impact. A call to initiate a go around occurred 1. A seconds before impact. Too late. Stephanie yeah. Didnt have to be a pilot to figure out that was probably a tad too late. All right. Thats it for us. Well see you tomorrow on the Stephanie Miller show. Im Jacki Schechner. It is noon eastern and heres whats current. Secretary of state john kerrys wife teresa behind kerry is hospitalized today in critical but stable condition after suffering what may have been a seizure yesterday afternoon. Heinz kerry was rushed to nantucket Cottage Hospital and then transferred to mass general in boston. Secretary kerry is with her. They have been married since 1995. In 2009, heinz kerry was diagnosed and treated for Breast Cancer undergoing two lumpectomies. Shes currently 74 years old. Former new york governor and former current tv host Eliot Spitzer is planning to dip back into politics hoping voters will forgive his past indiscretions and pick him to be the new new york city comptroller