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[ theme music ] stephanie hello. Happy friday, everybody. Jacki schechner chris can you get your organ out for me. Jacki schechner im in two thruples with you as you know. Yes. I went out with one of our thruples without you tonight and that was a big mistake. I went with Melissa Fitzgerald to a dinner party that i could walk to, and drank entirely too much red wine. [ applause ] i knew you were going to have a drink. Stephanie yeah it was a big, big huge stephanie you know how i am going to remedy that . Were all going out tonight. All right. Here she is the deeply sober Jacki Schechner. Good morning, everybody. Ed koch passed away. He died this morning at the age of 88. He serves the city of manhattan from 1978 to 1989 and was a congressman before that. He became a regular media figure, and was a judge on the Peoples Court. A new documentary on the mayor run opens date. A suicide bomber a and caused a blast in cur i can outside the u. S. Embassy. At least one other person has been seriously injured. So far no one has claimed responsibility. Another consideration would be some sort of iranian attack in retaliation for an israel air strike. For the first time tomorrow senior officials from the United States and russia will get together to talk about political transition in syria. Joining them will be membersover the united nations. The goal is to end the civil war that has now killed some 60,000 people. Today is secretary of state Hillary Clintons last day on the job. She has repeatedly dodged questions about running for president in 2016. Were back where more show after the break. Happy friday. Stay with us. What we need are people prepared for the careers of our new economy. By 2025 we could have 20 million jobs without enough College Graduates to fill them. Thats why at Devry University were teaming up with Companies Like cisco to help make sure everyone is ready with the knowhow we need for a new tomorrow. [ male announcer ] make sure americas ready. Make sure youre ready. At devry. Edu knowhow. [ theme music ] announcer ladies and gentlemen, its the Stephanie Miller show im walking on sunshine, woe ho im walking on sunshine woe ho its time to feel good hey all right now its time to feel good stephanie shhhhhhh quiet time for momma everybody. Is this the time where we have to put our heads on the desk . Stephanie momma has a massive red wine headache that is impervious to aspirin. I walked to a party last night, and that was bad news. And so what are you doing to do tonight . Stephanie were going to Party Tonight and im having a Super Bowl Party sunday. Im not going to that one. I got another thing to go to. Stephanie doing one thing with me over the weekend is too much. Speaking of parties [ world news tonight theme ] you have teased this for stephanie im wasnt sure if i should tease and then announce it in hour three. But im teasing it now. Because its big its big you are announcing it now, but saying that you cant i dont know that this is a good idea. Stephanie people will be ready. Im teasing, and you can do it at the end of the show today. At 11 00 am in the midwest chicago its time to step up for your sexy liberal rights. The right of the people out loud shall not be infringed. Thats right. The Stephanie Miller sexy liberal comedy tour is coming to the windy city. If you havent witnessed this epic recordbreaking comedy tour before, and if you have, do it again. On april 13th hal sparks, John Fugelsang, and the darling of progressive media, steph steph are bringing a whole new level of naughty comedy to chicago. Thats the Stephanie Miller sexy liberal comedy tour. Live at the Chicago Theater. For your ticket goes to sexyliberal. Com. No background check required. Stephanie and thats 11 00 am chicago time tickets go on sale. This is the only midwest one, and one west coast one, and thats it for 2013. [ applause ] stephanie exactly. There you go. Chicago. But ticket arent available now 11 00 am chicago time. All right. Stephanie thats when we get off. I couldnt announce it after were on the air. We could announce it just before we got off of the air, and have people listen for all three hours. Stephanie all right. What . Your red wine brain has forgotten the art of teasing. Stephanie that destroyed that part of my broadcast training. Oh i didnt go to broadcast school. Thats right. I can improvise. I can do the line of the nurse in streetcar named desire. Which is . Blanch its time to go. [ applause ] stephanie i sounded more like a dude because of the hang over. Yeah. Stephanie lets dive into rightwing world. [ circus music ] stephanie really john mccain, really . He is kind of a douche. Didnt he run his 2000 campaign stephanie yes, he is on record saying all sorts of glowing things errrrrr stephanie he seemed a little openly hostile. Yeah, a little tense. I think they are all angry that he was right about iraq. Stephanie thats the whole thing. Like he was right about iraq and you were wrong overall, and thats what chuck hagel said. Ill let history judge that. All right. Sean hannity. Im always trying to get to the understanding of why. The president has problems with israel, we see what is happening around the world. He knew this would be a controversial nominee, all of these trouble spots. Why would obama pick him . Stephanie im sorry, did he just say obama has all of these problems with Foreign Policy. Yeah. Stephanie i see, meaning he has been spectacularly successful and his Approval Rating are at an alltime high. Exactly obama has been quite successful in repairing those relationships that george bush destroyed. Everything was going fine until the black guy came along. Yeah. They were all singing cunbiah. Thats right. Stephanie and then he shows up. That one got in. [ sighs ] stephanie and of course the rise of radical what . Osama bin laden is dead and what im sorry, im turning into the hardofhearing darth vader. Liz cheney. You have to assume the president isnt paying much at attention. The iranians have announced they are going to increase centrifuges, you have new threats by alqaeda, two days ago the israels had to take action against a convoy that was carrying russianmade missiles. And chuck hagel showed today he is not up to the task of being in charge of our armed forces at this time. Stephanie wow. Dinner time at the cheneys just has to be happy clappy isnt it. [ applause ] stephanie dangerous world. Dangerous world. I have never seen a Single Person in that family smile. Cheney has a no that is like a smirk. Like a popeye stephanie grimace kind of. Its a smimace. [ laughter ] stephanie thats right. Its a grimace that passes as a smile. And he only busts that open when it is something festive like torture. I love it. Just love it so much. Stephanie he grosses me out when he does that. I know. Stephanie what was the other impression you used to do that made me cry. [ dramatic music ] that was a long time ago. We have been doing this show forever. Stephanie yeah. Okay. Rush limbaugh maybe a sour economy is worth it if it will distract obama and delay him on what he wants to do on guns and immigration. Ap, the voice of the administration, no longer the associated press, the Administration Press openly worried that a souring economy is going to thwart obamas agenda, which, again, means that the economy is not part of his agenda. Stephanie that smelled a little treasonny again. He was openly wishing for the president s failure for a sour economy. He doesnt care. Because he has stephanie layers of blubber. He has a safe of gold coins like scrooge mcduck. Stephanie would you like some fun facts by the way . [ funfacts music ] oh, boy. It sounds like you have something stuck in your craw. Stephanie thats why i brought it up. Chris in minneapolis. Rush is about retirement age do you think he would be evil enough to poison the well so to speak, go to sports and stuff like that. And frightening potentially frightening advertisers away from talk radio. [ applause ] stephanie oh, why chris, i wonder if that would ever happen. Yes, yes, in fact that is happening. Yeah, he doesnt give a damn. Stephanie yeah. [ laughter ] stephanie various radio syndicators have made that statement. He has scared advertisers away because of his slut talk so hundreds and hundreds of stations will suffer. Especially people who are sarcastic. Stephanie did that seem a little bit bitter . Little bit. Stephanie that winded yes. Well just leave that there. Well have to leave it there. Stephanie exactly. And just sorry that for posparity. What . Prosparity. [ laughter ] stephanie do you remember to back up your files in your computer . No, you probably dont. Do what i do get carbonite online back up for your computer. If anything happens to your computer, no need to worry, you can easily recover all of your backed up files with a click. Woe. It is just up there. I dont know if it is up there, i think of it in a beautiful fluffy pink cloud. With a rainbow over it. Stephanie right. Just 59 for all of your files, and carbonite also has plans to back up all of the computers for your small business. Go to carbonite. Com and the offer code is stephanie. It is worth it for the peace of mind alone. Stephanie thats right. Thank you chris lavoie. Announcer the left roars back. [ fighting cats ] announcer its the Stephanie Miller show. She gets the comedians laughing. Thats hilarious . And the thinkers thinking. Okay, so theres wiggleroom in the Ten Commandments is what youre telling me. Shes joy behar. And current will let me say anything. Only on current tv. Announcer Stephanie Miller. What have you done for me lately woe, woe, woe, yeah what have you done for me lately oh oh oh yeah stephanie yeah, uhhuh. It is the Stephanie Miller show. Welcome to it. Twentythree minutes after the hour. Bill in jersey. Welcome. Caller yeah, about chuck hagel this whole thing is ridiculous, because the opinions or policies or whatever that the defense secretary are meaningless. He is not allowed to make his own policy and where was mccain when rums field was put in after he was selling to hussein. Stephanie yeah. Its not about only statement he made when you are absolutely right. Sit to carry out the policy of the president. I loved some woman said he is so to the extreme left of president obama. I believe that was kelly arod that said that. Stephanie okay. So which is it . Is he a socialist or is he or hes to the right of chuck hagel. Stephanie yeah. How can he be a socialist and chuck hagel or do these people not know the definition of socialism. Stephanie really . I think thats the stephanie interesting. Big huge taxes to pay for roads thats socialism [ laughter ] stephanie okay. Bill oreilly and bob beckel. The 60 who are answering approve of barack obama even though the economy is bad after it is better than it was yes, it is too. How can you possibly come up with it is not better than it used to be it is not going under water you have just wrong about this. Yeah. I want you to understand where beckel is coming from. He will not admit it is worst than it was when the president took over. Stephanie i heard on fox and friends yesterday, i guess his Approval Rating is high because so many people are getting handouts. Thats why because 60 of america is getting a hand out. I havent gotten mine. Where is mine at . Stephanie were all a bunch of moochers. Meanwhile the u. S. Economy added 157,000 jobs [ world news tonight theme ] stephanie shut up shhhh stephanie although the jobless rate did tick up to 7. 9 . Aha [ dramatic music ] stephanie it is going to be entertaining. Them continuing to report news they dont really want to report. The earth is flat everyone knows it. You would fall off of the side if it is round. Stephanie tony per kin. [ dramatic music ] stephanie no, not that guy. The guy from the family oh, the really scary one. The vast majority of those involved in homosexuality choose that lifestyle. Oftentimes its the result of abuse, trauma, something that hand in their lives that lead them down this path. And thats one of the reasons were very concerned about the boy scouts. The perversion files with the boy scouts detailed hundreds hundreds of cases that had happened between 1960s and the mid1980s. That could lead to these experiences and and trauma for young boys that could lead them into that lifestyle. Okay, so stephanie huh . Allowing gays in the boy scouts to serve in the leadership openly would lead to more child abuse . Stephanie right. Right. With a catholic priest. What . What . Stephanie does he mean like head trauma . [ jeopardy theme music ] stephanie because maybe when i got a lawn dart in my head that did it to me. That could be. [ applause ] well your brother hung you. Stephanie that could be. I have blamed it on him. Im like its your fault im a tomboy. Because i only had a brother. My sisters were older. Im like you made me gay. Im sure he doesnt stephanie that and he doesnt like that. Stephanie i wasnt a good tomboy, because i would think i would know to let go of the jart when i threw it. Where did your brother find a gay noose to hang you from . Stephanie i dont know. Im thinking it would be a jart. My form was really good in throwing it, i just forgot to let it go. Yeah. Stephanie arty lang and a San Francisco 49er playing, chris culver. Yeah. How about gay guys . I dont do the gay guys man. Are there any on the 49ers. No. Stop the tape they got to get up out of there if they do. I cant be with that sweet stuff. They might be able to play well. No, you cant be in the locker room, nah. Nice. You are an idiot, ah ah ah ah ah ah ah stephanie yeah were going to counter that with somebody else that had some foughts yesterday in the world of football. Twentynine minutes after the hour. Right back on the Stephanie Miller show. Announcer Stephanie Miller. If i hadnt gone into microbiology, i would have probably gone into physics or ice dancing. Stephanie right. Thirtyfour minutes after the hour. Im having a Super Bowl Party on sunday comprised of all people that dont watch football at all. Its just an excuse for a party. Jim just replied to my invite. Kickoff, as im told they call it in football, at 3 00. Thats when it starts. And then i put go whoever is playing. [ applause ] so jim wrote back go niners score gets of basket goals. Travis get in here. Stephanie tbone. Stephanie everyone who has replied does note watch football. Oh, wow. [ applause ] oh, the minnesota nikings punting has some advice for me. I said i dont care as long as somebody dances with me when beyonce sings. You are wearing the tshirt. Because you are a beautifully unique sparkle pony. Im emailed him and he said you should root for whoever has the prettier uniform. Stephanie i feel like since were from california but now theres this [ censor bleep ]. Who from San Francisco would say no gays. Yeah, good team to pick for a homophobe. Im waiting for the team with the purple uniforms. Yes, the ravens never more. [ world news tonight theme ] Stephanie Brendan [ inaudible ]. See, Baltimore Ravens linebacker. Thats who chris clowe was defending. He is built. Have you seen that guy . He did the no hate picture stephanie how unusual. Does that happen in sport a lot . Are men built as they say. He must engage in sport. He is just the right height. Stephanie he wants to use the super bowl media as a platform to sound off on gay equality. There is nothing gay about football, just because a man standing behind one mans butt nothing gay. Stephanie is there any other way to say good job other than butt patting . How about a tap on the shoulder. Heres the manly way to do it right you guys punch each other. In what other workplace is buttocks cupping a way of saying nicely done. That happens at your parties stephfy. You make us do that. Stephanie well thats not technically the workplace. He wrote if Brittany Spears can party up in vegas and get married on a whim and get it annulled the next day, why cant gay people get married . Good for him. [ applause ] stephanie yeah, he i guess theres a catholic father of like six on his team and he wrote an anti gay marriage thing, and he said it started the dialogue on the team or whatever but he said there are already gay players in the nfl i dont know what it will happen, but when it happens it will happening in the locker room. He is also big on the antibullying thing too. Which is great for the young people out there. Stephanie yeah he said the young guys in the nfl now are more openminded and progressive. And that is happening everywhere. Generationally youre fighting you know fighting a battle you are going to lose. I would worry less about gays than getting a concussion. Stephanie right, about getting hit by a 300pound man. Apparently players get bonuses for crippling players on the other team. Stephanie oh. Did you see noted dr. [ censor bleep ] dr. Phil. This is another Football Player i cant pronounce. Manti teo. Stephanie bless you again. Right. So the guy okay. Here is another name i cant pronounce the guy that [ overlapping speakers ] the girl. Stephanie right. Right. It was a guy. He has broken his silence saying he fell deeply romantically in love with and a lot of people thought there was a gay aspect to this but this guy doesnt say he is gay. He says he is exgay. Stephanie dr. Phil said here we have a young man that fell deeply and romantically in love. I said are you gay . And he said when you put it that way, yes. [ laughter ] what way what other way would i put it . [ laughter ] stephanie and then he caught himself and said im confused. Did he say im exgay . He said he is recovering from homosexuality. Stephanie how is that going . Other than falling deeply and romantically in love with a Football Player. He is recovering. With the help of marcus bachmann. Stephanie nothing counts on line how do we know this . Jodie foster. Stephanie apparently they had a lot of phone conversations and he had to disguise his voice did he sound like he could be a woman . Yes he did. Stephanie it wasnt just online there is still something really fishy. Stephanie and then he said they broke up several times so they had a whole relationship on the phone for two years and they never met. Right. Right. The whole thing manti teo makes enough money to perhaps buy a plane ticket. Stephanie i would like to know something about this. Im sure dr. Phil will have something to say about it. Stephanie yeah you are right. It is very weird. There is something someone is keeping from us i think. Stephanie you think so . Yeah. Stephanie how about you take out your organ for me. Right away miss miller. [ organ music ] im going to open phones for you. Stephanie yes. [ laughter ] stephanie the reverend robert gefris. Has changed the way he talks about homosexuality from the pulpit. Churches are essentially a business, and obviously attendance has been dropping and dropping and dropping. Its a like politics. They still feel the same but they are trying to talk about it differently he no longer singles it out for special condemnation. He sort of lumps it in with murder stephanie Country Singer Chelly Wright who is very gay and very pregnant. Stephanie yes. He says he usually talks about homosexuality within a bigger context of relationship between one man and one woman. This is increasing as main stream support for gay and lesbian issues increases. But the same story, support is especially strong among young adults. A 2011 survey, 62 of adults support marriage equality. Asked about the perception of religious groups alienating polls support this. I dont get this he says he is open to the possibility that Sexual Orientation has a basic that cannot be cured or prayed away. But it hasnt altered his belief that the bible teaches acting out homosexual desire is sinful. They are barbarians. They need to be disciplined stephanie its like telling a lefthand person stop it [ buzzer ] thats what they used to do in Catholic Church stephanie that thing. All i remember is plaid. But you can force yourself to write with the other hand but you are never going to be as effective with it then what is the point. Stephanie i could have sex with men. I wouldnt be as good at it. You have. [ laughter ] stephanie yes. Thats why many men begged me to go gay. [ laughter ] stephanie fortyfive minutes after the hour. Right back on the Stephanie Miller show. Announcer funny how . Funny like she is a clown . Like shes hear to amuse you . Its the Stephanie Miller show. Out for us. Alright, in 15 minutes were going to do the young turks. I think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. They know that im not bsing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. When the democrats are wrong, they know that im going to be the first one to call them out. They can question whether im right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. He was a fashion icon living a Beautiful Life until a chance encounter took it all away. Of all the hours in all his days, these are the ones youll never forget. And now, ladies and gentlemen, matron announcer Stephanie Miller. Had a little motto, when you are good to momma, mommas good to you stephanie you are trying to play songs that are going to make my hangover worse arenting you . I hate you. Its the friday morning dance party. Stephanie shhhhh. Heads down everybody. Silent reading time. Stephanie 1800steph12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. Deb in california, you are on the Stephanie Miller show. Hey, deb. Caller hey, love how are you doing . Stephanie shhhhh. Okay. Go ahead. Caller im calling about that dumb john mccain, i think its time that everybody that listens to momma and the mooks call their local and National Media to talk about not wanting to see john mccain anymore. Maybe even include lindsay graham. Stephanie yeah, deb who was it when you write republican from wherever someone wrote republican from the green room. He is so predictable. Let me guess he is going to say he is troubled by something that obama has done. [ mysterious music ] stephanie troubling. Very troubling. Exactly. Trouble in trouble town. Stephanie exactly. Im troubled. Stephanie deeply troubled about trouble. Doug in missouri. Caller hey, miss miller. Stephanie hello. Caller i just want to say that when it comes to when it comes to guns stephanie right. Caller the government of small party says government should not interfere, but when it comes to the constitutionally adjudicated abortion every way around is perfectly fine. And you know that scream button you have on your box . Stephanie yes. Caller thats where i am right now. [ screaming ] stephanie yes. Lawrence odonnell says you only believe in a womens right to choose whatever gun she wants. Thats the only right you choose to give a woman. Paula good morning. Caller i was very upset when you said you werent going to ruth for the niners because of what chris culver said stephanie i didnt say that. Caller well, yes, you did. But the whole team from the owners down, jim harbaugh said months ago he would be happy to have a gay player. Other players on the team have said stephanie oh, yeah i didnt mean to imply that the whole team is responsible for what he said caller well, they sat him down, and i think he has learned a lesson. Hes talked about well i dont know hes hes he went to South Carolina thats not an excuse. Caller but i think he has learned. They sat him down and talked to him and i think it has been an educational experience stephanie has he apologized . Caller many times, yeah. And some of it sounded sincere, and others sounded scripted but he has talked many times, and it sounds like he has actually learned something stephanie yeah you know, paula i think it is good that this has become such a story, because even listening to that audio where him, it sounds like such a throwback that kind of reflexive homophobia that you hear in these macho circles but in the past you know . Caller i dont think he has actually ever thought about it and once this came out, i think the coach and other people have sat down with him, and i think he has begun to realize what a stupid thing it was to say, and of all places San Francisco. Stephanie yeah. Caller but, you know, the the team has been really good about that. And i might point out that while that one player from the ravens is wonderful, of course he went to school and grew up in Northern California some of his teammates were against marriage equality, so it goes just both just route for whichever team you want to route for stephanie right. I have always loved the 49ers, i have to say, and im from california. And i dont think he has apologized publicly . Yes he has. He has been sat down in front of reporters. And he had tears in his eyes and he said that is not in his heart. Stephanie all right. This is a hilarious letter yeah, you sent that to me but with no instructions. So i had no idea what to do with it. Stephanie why did i second it to you . For a laugh. You might just say post this. Stephanie oh, could you post this . I sure will. Stephanie im sorry, when i sent this i was drunk. Stephanie the way these people talk about entitlements drives us all instain. Republican senator from wyoming called Senior Citizens the greedy estrogen ration. Patty myers, please and thank you, a Career School teacher in montana wrote a response. Hey, alan lets get a few things straight as a career politician you have been on the public dole teat for years. I have been playing zone Associates Since i was 16. Im now 63. And my money was tucked away in a safe account for decades until you pukes decided to turn Social Security into a ponzi scheme that would make even the worst proud. Now you and your shil commission are proposing to move the goal post yet again. I and millions of other americans have been paying in medicare since day one and you want to change the rules of the game. Goes on and on it is hill tear louse. I just did post it. [ applause ] stephanie see how that happens. Any way, good stuff. Fridays with sexy liberal John Fugelsang next on the Stephanie Miller. Thats right. [ theme music ] stephanie hello tv world, hour number 2, sexy liberal John Fugelsang coming up next. And Jacki Schechner this will shock you [ world news tonight theme ] stephanie as republicans have always been so helpful in health care. Okay. Stephanie idaho republican compares obamacare to holocaust. Stephanie holocaust. I saw that. Thats a reasonable comparison. Stephanie yes. What the victims or the Insurance Companies . Stephanie right. And who cant agree on that . They have had it so rough all of these years. Its stretch. Maybe we should put the Insurance Companies in some sort of ghetto. Stephanie yes. She compared obamacare to the jews boarding the trains. [ buzzer ] oh, wow. Stephanie here she is Jacki Schechner. Good morning, everybody. Happy friday. I cannot believe this is a thing. Her raw doe rivera says he is considering a run for the senate. New jersey hasnt elected a republican to the senate since 1972, but he says he sees a new reciteized Republican Party in a state like new jersey. He says he is fiscally conservative, but socially liberal. He believes in Immigration Reform, gay marriage, and the right to choose and if that doesnt get him kicked off of fox, what would. His democratic challenger would be frank laudenberg or cory booker. We added 157,000 jobs last month. And the numbers for november and december have been revised up. We have higher unemployment numbers for those two months. It is now president obamas turn to sign the bill that enforces our debt limit for the next few months. It lets the treasury keep borrowing to pay our bills and avoid default. The house passed the bill last week as a way of buying time and not having to raise the ceiling higher than its current limit. Were back with more show after the break. Stay with us. Those types are coming on to me all the time now. She gets the comedians laughing. Thats hilarious . And the thinkers thinking. Okay, so theres wiggleroom in the Ten Commandments is what youre telling me. You would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me. Absolutely and so would mitt romeny. Shes joy behar. And the best part is that current will let me say anything. What the hell were they thinking . Only on current tv. What we need are people prepared for the careers of our new economy. By 2025 we could have 20 million jobs without enough College Graduates to fill them. Thats why at Devry University were teaming up with Companies Like cisco to help make sure everyone is ready with the knowhow we need for a new tomorrow. [ male announcer ] make sure americas ready. Make sure youre ready. At devry. Edu knowhow. [ theme music ] announcer ladies and gentlemen, its the Stephanie Miller show im walking on sunshine, woe ho im walking on sunshine, woe ho its time to feel good hey all right now its time to feel good stephanie it is the Stephanie Miller show. Welcome to it. Six minutes barely. Stephanie oooooooooh. 1800steph12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. This show has become the time in between parties. Apparently, yes. Stephanie okay. Stephaniemiller. Com the website, you can email us all there. You guyed picked a bar question walk to tonight thats why. Damn right. Stephanie 1800steph12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. Its friday. Fugelsang fugelsang yay stephanie good morning John Fugelsang. Good morning, kids. How are ya . Stephanie live from the new york bureau. Nice to be here. I missed you on monday, steph. Thank you for filling in. Several people have emailed me that i guess whole foods had a recall of some salmon. Stephanie yeah but i didnt get it there. I think i know where you got it, and they may be the same purveyor of salmon. Stephanie oh no [ dramatic music ] stephanie did you hear we had a rather major announcement this morning that involves you. Im very excited about this major announcement. Stephanie but you cant do anything about it until two hours from now. Hey, chicago, the Stephanie Miller sexy liberal comedy tour is returning to the Chicago Theater on april 13th. Tickets are available at ticket master. Com. Come see the tour. Who can argue with that. Sexy liberal comedy tour on april 13th. Suite home chicago is about to get a little more sugar from momma. Stephanie yay [ applause ] very exciting. Im bringing a whole new set of jokes. Wow stephanie oh, ah. And you can also see John Fugelsang every night right here on the Current Television network, hosting viewpoint. Yes, you can. We have to get Stephanie Miller on it. Stephanie exactly. Who are you having on tonight john . Nobody. We do monday through thursday. So i get to live like a real human tonight. Im proud to work with their staffs and the little monster had me up at 5 30 this morning. Its a great way to hate being alive. Stephanie awesome. We were talking about whats his name the other guy manti teo. Stephanie yeah, take a listen to this chris culver. How about gay guys any of them approach you . I dont do the gay guys. Are there any on the 49ers . Stop the tape. Can we stop the tape. Cant deal with that sweet stuff. But they might be able to play well. Nah. In the locker room nah. Stephanie so he has since apologized, john but you are implying this is homophobia in professional sports . Stephanie i know. I thought his apology was very sincere and he said that was what was in his head but not in his heart, and he seems to really feel bad about it. Thats what im hearing. He got a get out of hate free card this time. Stephanie all right. Any reverend says. Mike in chicago, you are on the Stephanie Miller show with john. Hello, mike. Caller hi how are you . Stephanie good, go ahead. Caller i want to start by saying im not against homosexuality in the least. Okay. Caller i just feel letting homosexuals into the boy scouts is perpetuating a problem. Stephanie how so . Caller i feel if a man is attract today a young boy stephanie thats pedophilia caller he is attracted to the same sex, thats not homosexual . But sir you know every country who documents pedestrian feelia, they identify themselves young boys right . Caller i think as a parent its our obligation to try to avoid letting our kids get hurt. If you are a gay man are you going to risk going to jail by molest somebody in their Boy Scout Troop with people like you scrutinizing stephanie wait you disagree with homosexuality among adults caller no, the animal world they say it is natural. Stephanie right, homosexuality does exist in every species. Caller show me the female animals that have sex for themselves for pleasure . Giraffes do. Stephanie so only male animals. Caller and female also. Animals have sex with each other just for pleasure. Stephanie yes. Yeah, theres a thing called the internet you can learn it yourself. Caller that is not true. Why dont you like homosexuals for religion reasons . Caller no im against homosexuality because of what happens when young boys get molested but that is pedophilia. Caller but you can also say that okay lets say a boy is 15 years old, and a 60 year old man from manbla wants to have sex with him man bla has about ten members nationwide. Why should we not let you around young girls . Because im not sick. I see. Caller im not saying all homosexuals are going to molest young boys. Stephanie oh, thank you. I think chris just poked a hole in your logic . These men are attracted to the same sex stephanie are you saying that all pedophiles are gay . Caller no any man that molests a young boy is gay. He may not admit it because he is attracted to the male genitalia you are attracted to female genitalia, so why should we let you around young girls . Caller look theres plenty of men that go after young girls sir caller im saying you should try to avoid the situation when you can, and then the situation that if it is going to happen, it will happen when men are around young men. When you are around young girls im keeping my eye on you. Again, sir, you can look this up, its married men, generally heterosexual identified men who do these things with young boys. If you are a gay man and you want to be in the boy scouts do you really think with all of those eyeballs on you, you are going to take that opportunity to break the law . All of these priests molest the pope has tried to blame it on gay priests too. Gay priests by and large have boyfriends. Okay . Its men who identify as straight. This is in europe australia. Look at the records of this. Caller a man attracted to a young man isnt gay . No stephanie but you are equating pedophilia with dating and relationships. Pedophilia is not a relationship. Its a crime. Caller im relating homosexual predators with young boys. Do you support letting gay troops serve openly in the military . Caller yeah, i dont have a problem with that. A guy who is gay can fight as well as a straight guy he would probably fight differently. Stephanie how would he fight differently . Limp wristed. Caller that was a joke. There would probably be a lot more slap. Now you are just making up stuff to conform to your own bias. Caller i dont hate gay guys stephanie how do they fight better than straight guys then . You said probably better . Caller because i equate it like women they feel because they are looked at differently, they are going to try harder. Stephanie oh, i see. By your logic we have to keep children away from adults all the time because you never know when someone is really gay living a lie. Is that right . Caller yeah. I never know where a guy is living a guy and has been waiting to violate my child. So we should arm our kids with a glock. Caller no, i would never let my children be alone with a priest for a long time because you never know. What you just said is up with of the most insinly idiotic things i have ever heard. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. Herp derp. What is that from . Stephanie john, you not being in studio with us you missed jim ward throwing a gay grenade. More wrist action means more distance. He sounds like a catholic who is in the process of evolution. It sounds like he is struggling with his own denthty as a catholic. This is our bigotry clings on. You have to try to cling to any little bit of bias to keep these people down. Stephanie john when we come back, we were talking about reverend jeffris, because theyry trying to get young people to come back to church, they are trying to sound more tolerant. While feeling the same way about it. I dont know how you square that. No way, dawg. Stephanie well be right back on the Stephanie Miller show. Announce for a good time call now. 1800steph12. He was a fashion icon living a Beautiful Life until a chance encounter took it all away. Of all the hours in all his days, these are the ones youll never forget. Open the door get on the floor announcer Stephanie Miller. The dinosaur stephanie it is the Stephanie Miller show. Welcome to it. Twentythree minutes after the hour. I think you are right, i think the salmon that i ate that i got the food poisoning, it was not whole foods dont worry i already recalled the salmon out of my ass. I have a letter about the last caller. For what it is worth boy scouts instituted a policy where children are not alone with one adult. Stephanie there you go. Lets go to [ inaudible ]. My son is very politically active, very liberal, and a huge jock. And he is swift enough to know that girls hate homophobes. Thats right. There is hope. Stephanie exactly. Word. I was asking before the break, the churches are looking at the same polling that were all looking at, the younger and younger you go like you just said, the homophobia is just not cool. And now they are just trying to talk about it differently. Knowing gay people makes young people hate them less. Dammit. Stephanie chely wright says i dont seek to be tolerated. And thats what reverend jeffris is doing. I think those raised religious now considers himself spiritual because they are turned off by fat men in funny hats. Stephanie how does god make mistakes . Now god sentences them to hell for no reason. And he is trying to put it into a larger framework. He is still saying it is evil. Its still the same hate with a different hat. Stephanie and they dont look cute in that hat. Toni in long beach. Hi toni. Caller hey, girl, what i have to say is you know what, there are always going to be people that dont like you. As a black person if i tripped on every racist that i met i would be insane by now. And i guess what i would say to the gay community, like you say over time things change. Sanatorium still hasnt apologized to the president , and lets face it he called him the nword. Thats just the way it is. There will always be some people there will always be poverty in the world stephanie i think the great equalizer is age. You get too old to give a [ censor bleep ] about what anybody thinks about anything. I keep thinking back and i think why did i care . Caller exactly. Now you can be the biggest n word you ever want to know but you cant touch me or discriminate against me legally, and thats what i would say about gay marriage you cant get somebody to accept what they dont want to accept, but when you stick to the legality of it there is nothing they can do. When you get past all of the personal and all of the little hurt feelings or whatever stick with the law. Stephanie yep. Caller okay. Thank you. Stephanie it doesnt matter how many people hate you, because the amount that i love you makes up for all of it. Caller you gave me hope stephanie. Stephanie me too, toni. I love her so much. I just wish the president would say that, if i was going to trip every time somebody said something racist about me i wish he would use that expression. Im not tripping. Cold tripping. Stephanie right. Twentynine minutes after the hour. Right back with more with fugelsang on the announcer its the Stephanie Miller show. Announcer Stephanie Miller. You are not a jaguar. Shes a cougar. Stephanie it is the Stephanie Miller show. Welcome to it. Thirtyfour minutes after the hour. This the midst of the fridays with the fugelsang who i believe will be taking over for me shortly when i pass out [ farting sounds ] stephanie the recall is not complete, what it is chris salmon with listeria. Chuck hagel yesterday at the hearings. We must use all of our tools of American Power to protect our citizens and our interest. America must engage in the world not retreat from the world. Stephanie did you see the angriest leprecon. The only way he could look more unhappy is if he was married to john mccain. He was slamming hagel for being wrong about the surge, which was during the iraq war which mccain was wrong about. I love deb called him extreme and far to the left of obama. It was completely insane. Chuck hagel among with mccain both voted for Donald Rumsfeld to be secretary of defense. Stephanie here is the angriest leprecon yesterday. Do you stand by those comments senator hagel . Senator i standing by them as i made them were you right . Were you correct in your assessment . I would defer to the judgment of history to this committee deserves your judgment as to whether you were right or wrong about the surge. Ill explain why i made those comments i want to know yes or no. The surge assists in the objective will you please answer the question. Were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous Foreign Policy blunder in this country since vietnam. Were you correct or incorrect, yes or no . My reference are you going to answer the question, senator hagel. The question is were you right or wrong . Well i would like the answer whether you are right or wrong and then you are free to elaborate. Well, im not going to give you a yes or no answer. Let the record show he refused to answer that question now please go ahead. Well, if you would like me to explain i actually would like a yes or no answer. Im not going to give you a yes or no. I think it is much more complicate than that. I will let history answer that. Can we go through a few reasons why that was disgusting. Number one chuck hagel if he gets this job he cant speak freely, which was that the surge was mostly bribed because they were the people killing our trips. Number 2 this was all personal animosity here, and john mccain walked around with chuck hagel saying what a great secretary of defense chuck hagel would make. In 2008 hagel didnt endorse him, but his wife endorsed barack obama. This is personal pettiness. He cant come out and say things like why the surge didnt actually work; that it was all bribes. Thats how the whole thing was pulled off. This was john mccain trying to make himself look statesman like beating the crap out of his friend not to mention a previous infantry man. Stephanie exactly. Did i miss anything . Stephanie no, i think you like it. I also like hearing that chuck hagel is a jew hater from beck stan. Stephanie exactly. He repeated his regrets about using the term jewish lobby. He said he should not used those words. He said im sorry and i regret it. I should have said influence would have been more appropriate. If chuck hagel said im not going to let any foreign lobby push me around, then he would have applauded his patriotism, but in fairness to lindsay graham, it seem like chuck hagel was coached heavily by Barack Obamas first debate coach. Yeah he wasnt all that good yesterday . He was like an s m player who forget his safety word. Stephanie the safety word is always [ inaudible ] according to geraldo rivera. The future senator. [ buzzer ] stephanie how much money does he have in his campaign vault . Oh its empty. Here is the angriest leprecon yesterday. John mccain. History has already made a judgment about the surge sir, and you are on the wrong side of it, and your refusal to answer whether you were right or wrong is going to have an impact on my decision to vote for you. Stephanie john mccain was the biggest proponent of this war. So obviously there is a larger issue here. You are exactly right. Chuck hagel got a real grilling and mccain was skeptical on hagels judgment on national security, and this is the guy who felt like sarah palin was qualified to lead the free world. He came out against the iraq war for no other reason that it was a gigantic mess. Stephanie republicans questioned hagel about a study he authored that called for eventual elimination of all nuclear arms. Which makes him just like reagan. [ bell chimes ] [ applause ] and they piled on him for that, because he doesnt want us to be able to destroy the world a 27th time. Stephanie exactly. Chia you are on with john. Caller i feel kind of bad because i wanted to talk more about the homophobic back pedalling that is going on. Do it please. John talked about chris culver and accepting his apology, and im not sure that i really buy it. A lot of these sports stars they do or Say Something offensive and then they have to back pedal, and they have somebody to taylor these remarks for them and sound like they are contrite and really dont feel this way. Somebody like chris culver he is young. He is 24 and he probably grew up in a culture where homophobia was accepted the football culture. Stephanie right. Caller but for him to say i thought that in my head but i dont feel it in my heart. That sounds to me like a kid getting caught and he is back pedalling because he got caught not because he feels bad about it. He said when he saw it in print he was very upset that he said those words. And if he was a real homophobe he would stick to it and not apologize for the sake of not looking soft around his teammates. Caller if you are going to be a big got, be a bigot. They say things like i dont hate gay people i just hate what gayness does to people. Yeah, they are not gay they are just confused. Stephanie im pretty clear. Caller yeah, especially in the locker room you are equating what your ideas about masculinity and what homosexuality is. And there is a big disparity between what they have been taught and what exactly ex cysts. Of course. Men are pack animals. Caller they really are. One of the greatest gifts to me was i never fit in with most of my peer groups as a kid and it forced me to become an individual. And thank god for that. Stephanie yeah. John is the man he is today because so many guys called him the fword and through gum in his hair. That is true. And really we talk about how bigotry is learned, also 90 of bigotry is conformity. I agree with that. Thats being a pack animal. I agree with everything. You are so right about everything. Stephanie sexy liberal John Fugelsang, momma because were honest on this show im having a gastrointestinal situation, and im passing the baton to you. Yes. Just stop talking about it. You are ruining all of my fantasies. [ laughter ] his lystiria fantasies. Stephanie yes, and an hour and 15 minutes from now, tickets go on sale for chicago. And last year we set a record for sales. And rolland sexy liberal tour director, as informed me that this is only you me and hal, and the presale is already 20 ahead of last years presale. Stephanie oh, my god. For the people the the people in the i dont know what the special group is for Chicago Theater. Oh, right. Patrons of the Chicago Theater. Stephanie no. Subscribers. Season ticket holders. Vipers bags of vipers [ laughter ] stephanie dont step on a bag of vipers on the way to the theater. Get some tickets for the show. All right. April 13th Chicago Theater, very, very exciting. John is going to take over for me because you are pooping right now. She wore her brown pants. [ farting sounds ] stephanie all right. John fugelsang and the rest of the crew ill see you monday on the Stephanie Miller show. Announcer fresh republican outrage, you keep listening. Shell make more. Its the Stephanie Miller show. His ability, is trying to look out for us. Alright, in 15 minutes were going to do the young turks. I think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. They know that im not bsing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. When the democrats are wrong, they know that im going to be the first one to call them out. They can question whether im right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. 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[ phil ] get back to the things that matter most. Ask your rheumatologist if enbrel is right for you. [ doctor ] enbrel, the number one biologic medicine prescribed by rheumatologists. He was a fashion icon living a Beautiful Life until a chance encounter took it all away. Of all the hours in all his days, these are the ones youll never forget. Announcer Stephanie Miller. Well shake it up baby, now shake it up baby twist and shout come on come on come on baby now come on and work it on out this is the Stephanie Miller show im John Fugelsang, filling in for steph because she had to leave before she provided us with more grotesque images of her intestines. [ laughter ] john i wish we could just play that song all day long. And it was the best scene in farris bulers day off. John charlie sheens career may have peaked at that. Point thats true. John karen good morning. You are on the steph show. Caller hi, john. I love the show, but i wanted to share a story about something that happened in my life. My son is 25 now, but when he when he was two, i was president of our local Theater Group, and we had a float in the 4th of july parade. Unfortunately i was sick but i had to be in the parade, so i had my son with me and he was about a year and a half almost two years old. After the parade i was going to go home and suffer in silence, and a friend of mine in the Theater Group who happened to be gay, said he was having a press releasety theres a gay person in your Theater Group [ dramatic music ] they are taking over the arts too caller i know. John next it will be fashion. I dont want to hear this. Caller any way we went to his house afterwards. And i just went in his room and laid down and he took care of my son. Now he he changed his diaper. He fed him. He played with him. He laid down with him and to get him to take a nap. I mean this was way above and beyond the call of any friendship. John wow. And at the end of the day when i was getting ready to leave, i felt a little better and after offering to drive us home, i said im going to be okay. And he said this is such a joy for me, because my sister has a son who is almost three, and her husband wont let me take care of him or be around my nephew without one of them being with them. And i said why . And he said because he thinks ill molest my nephew and i said honey thats a pedophile, thats not gay. And he said karen you are one of the few people that knows this. This was twentythree years ago. Now i would have thought in twentythree years that people would have found this out john many have karen. We have come a long way in 20 years, love acceptance and intelligence has made great strides. Caller but then you get like this clown that you had on earlier with the boy scouts and it just makes me want to pull my hair out. John yeah but ignorance is the square root of bigotry, right . And people just dont know better. And theres horrible gay people and theres awful gay people and depressed, and intoxicate gay people too. Caller yeah. But its education, you know . John yeah, its education, love acceptance and its like really . You really think that this poor friend of yours, his sister really thought that her brother was going to take advantage of her baby caller he sisters husband. John but she allowed it to go on. And its tragic. And if any gay person ever does interfere with a child, they deserve the full force of the law just like any straight person. John exactly. And no one is worried about straight people despite the fact that every society that keeps records, the overwhelming majority of pedophiles are heterosexual identified males. Caller thats true. And my son is one of the most tolerant people i have ever met. John thats great. Carolyn is calling from michigan with a somewhat different point of view. Caller good morning, i just heard the last caller and i heard the caller before, and i think you guys were a little haron him. I understand and i definitely myself am not homophobic but when you are talking about children you know, i would john you have a phobia. Caller no, i dont. John if you are afraid to have your kids around gay people thats a bit of a phobia, right . Caller well and were painting a brood brush john the caller you thought we were being harsh on was the one that did that. Caller to me it sounded like he was a concerned parent who would prefer to ere on the side of caution. And if we save one child its worth it then we should keep him away all girls caller i understand that as well. Like you said just what you mentioned most heterosexual males, and we can tell. John so so what were talking about is a blanket policy of not letting your children be around any assaults that are not you unless they are supervised. Thats what it sounds like. John all right. Were going to break, well be right back on the Stephanie Miller show. [ theme music ] hello, current tv world, stephanie had to leaf, thats why that chair right over there is empty. But we do still have Jacki Schechner in the current news center. That was my chair. The plan went horribly awry. Thats right. And we have John Fugelsang in the new york bureau, so hell take over for the next hour. Did you people not get the memo . Well, we started the week with the four of us and werening the week with the four of us. I like this. Although we do hope steph is okay. Its just more fun to kid about it. Exactly. We have Markos Moulitsas coming up at the bottom of the hour, but right now its Jacki Schechner. Good morning, everybody. Happy friday to you. The sec says that all together candidates parties and outside groups spent 7 billion on the 2012 election cycle. It is recordbreaking but not surprising. The senator for responsive politics predicted in october that the total tab would be 6 billion. Candidates spent 3. 2 million, Party Committees like spent 2 billion, so did outside groups and super pacs although the sec is still calculating those somebodies and they could be higher. The sec says this is the first time that outside groups have outspend political parties. The commission has had to process some 11 million pages of documents related to the 2012 spending, kate only expect more money and more paperwork next time around. The individual contribution limit has gone up. You can now give 2,600 per candidate per cycle, and 32,400 to a political party. Turkeys interior minister says the suicide bomber who detonated an explosion outside of the u. S. Embassy is likely to be connected to a militant group. The ap reports the embassy is heavily protected. A state Department Spokes woman says it is working closely with Turkish Police but is now warning citizens to stay away from diplomatic thats hilarious . And the thinkers thinking. Okay, so theres wiggleroom in the Ten Commandments is what youre telling me. You would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me. Absolutely and so would mitt romeny. Shes joy behar. And the best part is that current will let me say anything. What the hell were they thinking . Only on current tv. [ theme music ] announcer ladies and gentlemen, its the Stephanie Miller show im walking on sunshine woe ho im walking on sunshine woe ho its time to feel good hey all right now its time to feel good john this is the Stephanie Miller show. Im John Fugelsang filling in for steph. She will illin. Along with chris and jim in the burbank branch. I want to take a moment to give special congratulations to jim nabors. Surprise surprise surprise john he married his long time partner this seattle. Jim is 82. We wish him a long and happy life. Same age as my mother. John is that true . No, that was just a line. John if samesex marriage was legal in may berry, but im sure that they would not have arrested gomer mainly because otis the drunk was always in the only jail cell. He is 82 but his partner is 64 which makes jim a cradle robber. By the other weird thing is they live in hawaii but vacation in seattle. If you grew up when i did you would see the commercials for jim nabors albums. His marriage by all accounts is traditional stable mon nothing mouse relationship. And it just happens to be gay. So this made me proud to be an american this week. Once we get marriage intervention out of the way, we can start working on otis the drunk. My parents heard him sing in a place that i ended up doing stand up at years later. John really . Go on youtube and search for jim nabors singing. It was one of the few times they let him sing on the show. And hearing him in military dress singing the impossible dream is indescribably moving. You know what else will make your day . If in less than an hour from now you get yourself some tickets to to sexy liberal chicago. A well intoxicated media may be necessary for the success of the sexy liberal. Thats right the Stephanie Miller sexy liberal comedy tour is coming to the windy city. If you havent witnessed this epic, recordbreaking comedy tour before, and even if you have, do it again, because you aint seen nothing yet live at the Chicago Theater. Im sexy and i know it on april 13th hal sparks John Fugelsang, and the darling of progressive media, Stephanie Miller are bringing a whole new level of sexy liberal comedy to chicago. Live at the Chicago Theater. For your tickets go to ticketmaster. Com. No background check required. And those tickets go on sale 11 00 central time. John the Chicago Theater is a really magical place. We have had a couple of great shows there over the years, but this one is going to be great, because it is our first show post election. The election was a lot of fun but now were back to dealing with real bad guys, bad guys who are really trying to stop democracy and the will of the American Voter and bring us back to their idea of what america should have been in the 50s and never really was. I think the steaks are much higher now than they were prior to the election. So please come on down. I might try to make it there. John oh i hope you would. Because i love chicago. And i havent been there since 2000 i havent been back since the 90s. Its a gorgeous theater too. And are we playing with the chicago blues allstars . Im sure they will make an appearance. John thats a real party. After the show we had in d. C. Two weeks ago, which i thought was stephanies best performances april, so come on down. Now lets go to these calls. Lets go to sarah in madison. You have a comment about the boy scouts. Caller yeah, im a scout leader, so for some odd reason i was yelling at the radio when the first gentlemen called i wonder why . Caller yeah, give me a break. We have a campout this weekend, im a heterosexual female and im attached to boys so i shouldnt be allowed to go . John my god you are a risk to all of us. Caller i was really torn this year about volunteering again, because i knew they were doing the conversation about whether or not to hope up the homosexual thing and it just amazes me. John homophobia is like wholesome hate. Its hard to let go of that. People dont want to stop feeling like they are better than someone else. Your parents were a product of their time, so keep the best and drop the rest, right . Caller im into that one. John word. Thank you very much, and if i ever put my kid in scouts i hope he is around you. Now tracy in madison. Good morning. You are on the Stephanie Miller show. Caller ho, hi. Im sorry. Good morning. One word for stephanie. Immodeium. Yes. Caller i am a mom. I have an eight year old, and he was a scout, and we took him out after they reiterated that stance. But i wanted to take him out because i i would not put him in something that didnt allow black people or didnt allow kids with disabilities to be it and i didnt feel comfortable reit taiting that to my son, and those last two callers, that just broke my heart that they would think that way. When we first moved here and our kids started going to school, we noticed right away there were a lot of samesex parent families there. And my husband is like were going to have to research how to talk to the kids about this. My kids are in middle school now, and they have never mentioned it. They just think that thats the way things are, and im really proud of that. John thats great. So who are you going to teach them to hate now . Caller pedophiles. There you go. Good answer. Caller saying that you dont want your children to be in cub scouts or because youre worried that because people are gay they are going to try to be a pedophile, is just bigotry that is based on a stereo type that is completely incorrect. And its like saying you wont let your child be around black people because then they will get lazy and shiftless. John when i grew up i was half southern half new york and down south i would be around people who said the n word but they had black friends. And up north they wouldnt say the n word at all, but they said dont go in that area they are all black people. Caller and we want our kids i think to be better than us. John yeah. In my case that wont be hard but yeah. [ laughter ] caller thanks so much, hope steph feels better. John thank you too. Jeff tweets after my parents divorced at age nine i lived next door to a gay couple. Yay. John ray in texas. Caller good morning. Im so excited to talk to you mr. Fugelsang. John im so excited to talk to you. Caller my head was just spinning when cub scout guy was on the phone. What were not looking at a the science of it. They have a mapped the brains of homosexuals, heterosexuals, and pedophiles. And there is no difference between the homosexual and the heterosexual brain. But in the pedophiles any neurons are not connecting and thats what makes us deal with the consequences of our actions. John thats fascinating. Caller yeah, and they dont specifically pick a gender. What its about and lets just call this rape. Its about control, and seduction and power. It has nothing to do with sexuality. Thats right. Caller and i wanted to make one quick point about the intolerance of homophobia, i have a 19yearold son and we live in rural texas and what im finding with their generation is they are not homophobic, and the reason is they are all pro pot and antireligion and all of this other stuff, and they dont want people telling them what to do so they dont care about the homophobia, because they dont want to force their stuff on other people. John exactly. More and more its like i dont even know if i want to call myself liberal i say i aspire to be liberal. If you look up the word liberal, it is pretty open and shut. Caller im an independent liberal demrepublcrat. There you go. Caller republicans arent the bad guys its the tea partiers. John exactly. Ray we have to go to a break. You were delightful. She was awesome. John and foxy. Did you just say foxy . John yes, i did. Im bringing foxy back dammit. Now. John Martha Raddatz joins us very shortly. This is the Stephanie Miller show. Wow yes yes, i love it. Announcer its the Stephanie Miller show. He was a fashion icon living a Beautiful Life until a chance encounter took it all away. Of all the hours in all his days, these are the ones youll never forget. I dont know what you done to me, but i know this much is true announcer Stephanie Miller. I want to do bad things with you john thats a great song, isnt it . I love it. John terrific opening credit. True blood. John a show that has gotten better every season. I dont know about that. It is a little convoluted. John it has always been convoluted, but what they were trying to do with the fontaine character last year or who is the guy . Who is taras cousin the gay character. Richard simmons john no lafayette. Having these witch sometimes theyll try to do a subplot. And they just drop the whole plot line halfway through. Yeah. John but that show has gotten a lot better and we know when they have an irish character, well have leprecons. Yeah, when they brought in the fairies, i was like okay. Im out of here. John well have Markos Moulitsas on in just a few minutes. I want to give a shout out to the great ed koch whether you like him or hate him. He walked around the village for almost two hours debating going to war with Saddam Hussein with me, and i was some teenager and i was so impressed by it and even though he got a lot more conservative in his years, we was an outspoken figure for immigrants. And there was rumors around his sexuality i had never heard that before. John he denied it while he was in office but there is a movie that is rather indirectly based on him about a gay mayor. But it is a part of new york we all grew up with. A lot of people say he saved new york. John yes. He did support bush for reelection back in 2004 but he ill tell you one thing for him, he was never boring, and he will be missed. And he went on to host the Peoples Court for a couple of seasons. John oh, my god, he did. Do we have time for a call chris . Yeah, we do. John jean good morning, you are on the Stephanie Miller show. Caller good morning, john. Thanks for take my call. I really like your phrase soft did you say discrimination . John yeah, i think so. Soft bigotry. Caller soft bigotry John George Bush said that first in fairness. Caller interesting that he coined that phrase. John someone wrote it for him. But he said it first. Caller i think thats a more deadly form of bigotry and i find nothing more offensive than probably pretty good hearted but ignorant people who will say that they just have a little bit of concern about gay people. Its just like some of my best friends are black, i just hope they dont move in next door, and as a person who has a friend who just came back from afghanistan who is now able to serve as an openly gay woman, and just finished her fourth deployment, i just find it highly offensive to hear anybody try to diminish the patriotism the loyalty of gay people to this country and and and Everything Else to me cascades from there, so to say that theres any reason whatsoever for gay kids to not be scouts or for gay people to not be leaders is just incredibly offensive to me. John congrats for being on the right side of history, it is only going to get better. Thank you for the call. I was just talking about again nach village i once saw a protest where a man died of hivrelated illnesses, and his friends were carrying a casket with him in it. Overall i stand in ah to aboutup because it was the aids crisis that made people come together. Yeah. John its all because the people lead and the leaders followed. Its the Stephanie Miller show. Markos moulitsas is coming up next. Oh, thats you down there announcer Stephanie Miller. You have very impressive friends, you found a hair style that works for you so long as it is not too humid. John this is John Fugelsang sitting in for Stephanie Miller show who took will and had to leave. Yes, she had a sad. But were happy to be with you John Fugelsang. John im happy to be with you. And im especially happy about this next guest, Markos Moulitsas good morning welcome to the stephanie show. Good morning, john. John great to have you, thanks for joining us. Pleasure. John im dieing to talk to you, because there is so much going on with Wayne Lapierre and the chuck hagel punching bag yesterday. But you published some great pieces about the immigration debate. And you nailed about it what the different factions are, what they are fighting for and why they are doing it . It lays out who is doing what and why. Can you expand a bit on that for us. Sure. And just by way of background, i myself am an immigrant. So it is an issue near and dear to my heart. Were seeing here the really big issue is demographics. Republicans have no interest in doing anything to help any brown person at all. Some quick stats. Next president ial election 2016, the nonwhite share of the vote will be 2 higher than it was last year. So instead of obama winning by a 3. 9 , he would have won by 5. 3 Everything Else being equal, just demographic vote. Every one 100,000 americans die. And they are not going to win a National Election unless they can make inroads into the latino vote. So you have basically three groups. I would say people who actually care about Immigration Reform and making sure we dont have this inhumane underclass thats most most democrats not all, most democrats. There may be a republican or two in there. I doubt that. John its hard to tell because for you can have a marco rubio come here and talk about the sincere need to have sane immigration form or john mccain who was saying finish the dang fence four years ago, but you dont know if they mean what they say or they recognize the political reality that they are marginallizing themselves. Thats true. Now you have the second group, which is those predominantly republican not the majority i dont think, but i think john mccain is in there definitely marco rubio, these are people who want to at least outwardly show that they are not haters towards latinos. So what they are really focused on is were going to go through the emotions pretend we want reform, but we dont want to make millions of new democratic voters, because you have between 10 and 13 million undocumented immigrants, and if 80 of them vote democratic i would say probably even more but lets say 80 vote democratic you are talking 8 million net vote gain for democrats. Obama won the 2008 election by a landslide. Republicans are absolutely terrified of that, and they have every reason to be. John exactly. You cant get the white house without 60 of the latino vote and so now its these two factions in the gop its more than that really, but you have the ones that recognize the political reality. And then you have those who dont care and they will not much on this. And it almost seems like whereas the democrats try to drive a wedge into the gop on class and the 47 issue, this seems like a really effective issue. If they win good for them if they fail, those bad republicans stopped us from getting Immigration Reform. Yeah, exactly. They are going to suffer shortterm right . These people say we cant get 8 million more democratic voters. They are absolutely right. The problem is they are already facing a huge deficit that is already getting a lot worse. 76,000 latinos turn 18 every month. So they dont have a choice. The question is you have people who maybe think obviously were going to suffer in the shortterm but lets play this long game. Lets start turning things around so maybe in eight or 12 years we can be competitive with latinos again. John exactly. And then you have the fake reformer, who i think is rubio, they want to sort of legalize in a sense the undocumented immigrants but they dont want to vote. So were not going to trigger the citizenship requirement. And thats just to create latinos that dont vote. John exactly. Some of the moderate republicans might be on the right track. Because they are not a monolithic voting block. There is a lot of diversity, and a lot of catholicism and in spite of the fact that they have these tremendous demographic, the party keeps choose toes alienate these folks. Thats true. The median age of a nativeborn latino is 18. Thats why it has this incredible growth potential. In 2012 in the exit polling, the most pro gay rights demographic was latinos. Wow. The most prochoice demographic was latinos. You know why . Because i was like you, they are catholic and more socially conservative. But the median age is 18. And when you look at age groups what is the most tolerant age group . Obviously its the young groups. And if you have a young cohort they will be pro gay, and pro choice, and here is the this one also blows my mind. A pew poll found that the that asked that people who had favorability in terms of socialism, latinos were more favorable toward socialism than wall street protesters. John yeah, i want to ask you markos about this congressman from pennsylvania, lou barletta. He came out this week proving bobby jindal is right about the party of stupid and actually say the majority that are here illegally are low skilled and may not even have a high school diploma. Right, because people who work backbreaking jobs just to live here are obviously lazy and the notion that most immigrants are lowskilled illiterates. Is this bigotry common in the gop or do you think some of them are starting to wake up from it . No, its common. And you can see it in the way that the republican establishment has really lashed out at rubio, even though rubio [ inaudible ] they are not going to deport these people. Its impossible. John right. Sanatorium and rick perry, [ inaudible ] thats not going to happen. And even that is getting hammered by the republican establishment, and plus the elected officials i mean the Republican House has just been horrible, and also their media outlets. Even the intellectual conservatives like at the national review, they are bashing mccain and he is right now being pillared. So i dont think john and deservedly so. Yeah, they are not evolving. [ inaudible ] competing against each other, and they are not going to turn that off overnight. And i talk about even though they are going to have shortterm gain, there is no way for republicans to look at the demographic situation right now, and say we can avoid shortterm gain and be competitive in 2016 its just not going to happen. Hillary clinton is leading all leading republicans in texas. John yep. This week in texas we found out the majority of texans favor any assault weapons ban. When i look at the details of the bill it seems like a pathway to citizenship, but if you want to follow the rules undocumented workers have to notify them of their presence. They have to pay a fine a lot of back taxes and then they have to go to the back of the line waiting for the green card. If you are working here presumably well below minimum wage its not unreasonable to [ inaudible ]. So really quick before we go markos, do you buy this as a sincere effort of reform or it is just completely unreasonable that it would ever work . I actually dont mind this. From a political reality people are willing to support Immigration Reform. But they want to get the sense that if people [ inaudible ] penalty part. So i dont mind that. The vast majority of these immigrants are paying taxes. So if if the back tax provision shouldnt impact the vast majority of them. It details how much of a penalty there is going to be even if there is going to be one, beyond the back taxes, but i dont think its unreasonable to request that. Because they did sort of break the law. And so nobody out Immigration Reformers arent going to get hung up over that. Because if this is a way for us to improve their lives then that is a small price to pay. John Markos Moulitsas of day dailycros. Thank you so much. Thank you. John well be right back after the break. Question whether im right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. What we need are people prepared for the careers of our new economy. 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Stephanie miller sexy liberal comedy tour is making a return visit to the Chicago Theater on april 13th. Tickets are available at ticket master. Com. The sexy liberal comedy tour at the Chicago Theater april 13th. Sweet home chicago is about to get more sugar from momma. John oh, yeah. And there will not be a blues band with us this time. Its going to be so much fun. I have so much new material im so ready to bring to chicago. And who knows there may be some special surprise. What . No john its early still, but you never know. Bags of vipers. John yeah, bags of vipers. Im not allowed to say anyone if i ever reveal who a surprise guest is stephanie picks up her phone and says dead hooker in the trunk. And i dont even have a car. But you do have a dead hooker. John right. You were there for the sexy liberal in dc. It was so much fun. And what i like most about this tours seriously, its not just an evening of highquality entertainment and the kind of comedy you will never get in comedy clubs, which are wonderful places but its a chance to be around a couple thousand people who are like you, who dont have the bald eagle fetish like that neighbor of yours, and who arent telling you how jesus hated gays, if you are so sick of being surrounded by people who are trying to bring us back to the glory days of george w. Bush. Come out and have some fun with people who get it. And its a party. I mean its just and travis and i were thinking about taking the weekend off and going there. John you dont say . Yeah. John we might have a chance to let the people of chicago see what tbone looks like. Exactly. John and stephanie has been keeping this rumor going that my child was conceived in the dressing room there. Well john maybe ill bring him this time. Yeah. John we do have some time left in the show for a couple of calls, i believe. Peggy in texas is calling about guns. Caller hi. I was just going to say if a woman wants to have an abortion, and she is forced to undergo a vaginal probe and looking at pictures of aborted fetuses, then why dont we have it if someone wants to purchase an Assault Rifle they are forced to look at pictures of those dead babies, and undergo a questionnaire telling them that that gun might some day kill someone. John thats a great idea. There is a certain hypocrisy you are pointing out there. Caller exactly. John you are exactly right. And ill also say if the white house wanted to get 100 of the people on their side for sensible gun control release the photos of some of the people who has been killed in massacres, because someone on the fence right now about a 30round magazine they will be offof the fence when you can see what the maniac can do if he doesnt have to unload . Assuming the parents agree. John of course. Im not calling for more pictures of massacre victims, but i think if there were you would see a lot more people making up their mind on the side of sanity. Caller and especially the ones that want to purchase such a rifle. John exactly right. And if you are haunter, and you need 30 rounds you suck at hunting. And theres only one reason a hunter needs 30 rounds and thats zombie deer. The Arkansas Senate voted to allow guns in churches. And i thought if anyone deserves the right to protect themselves its alter boys. I dont really understand this notion that in a sanctuary of nonviolence you have to bring a gun. If you go to a church where you have to have a gun you dont need to change the laws, you need to change your church and i think its a free country. But this mentality that the problem with christianity is that they let this longhaired nonviolent hippy run it. Yeah. I think its wrong that the state is forcing churches to allow patrons to bring their guns in. I think each church should be able to decide whether it will allow that. John i agree. I think guns should be allowed in church, but the people who want to bring guns to church shouldnt be allowed in church. Jesus was antiviolence, and if you are

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