Transcripts For CURRENT Liberally Stephanie Miller 20130128

[ theme ] hello current tv fans. This is chris lavoie, stephanie is not here today. She has food poisoning. Im not going to say that travis and i did anything but we did scheme and plot and then we were at her house saturday night and now im in the big chair. So im just going to let you put the pieces together. Travis did say you guys would slip a pill in her chardonnay and something would happen. Look at what happened. So weve got John Fuglesang holding down the fort in new york. Weve got mooks here in burbank. Weve got a full show today. Hello, jim you walked in. Hello. Give him a minute to get organized. Never mind the live radio tv thing happening. Jim is joining you for the show . How gallant . We had headphones in the studio. Look at that. Somebody elses fault. But we got rude pundit coming up this hour and right now weve got news with Jacki Schechner. I do it all. Look at that. Good morning everybody. President obama, Vice President biden meeting today with Law Enforcement officials from three communities rocked by gun violence. New tossen police chief Michael Kehoe along with his counter parts from aurora, colorado and oak creek wisconsin where a gunman killed six people and wounded four others at a sikh temple in august. U. S. Attorney general eric holder and Homeland Security secretary Janet Napolitano will be sitting in as they have in many of the meetings that Vice President biden had been holding along the way. Also representatives from the major citys chiefs and major sheriffs associations. S the conversations continue as Congress Gets ready to start weighing the white houses recommendations for gun control measures and members of both chambers have introduced legislation to ban assault weapons and put limitations on highcapacity magazines. Also, the Senate Judiciary committee is set to hold its first hearings on the measures on wednesday. President obama also welcoming the miami heat to the white house today to congratulate them on their 2012 nba championship. Had to give a little plug for the home team there. And if why havent we done this already news, the senates going to vote to approve more than 50 billion in aid to victims of super storm sandy. Tens of thousands of families still displaced or lack the proper heat to deal with the cold. You may remember the senate did approve the full 60 billion relief package back in december but then the house took recess and did nothing. House Speaker John Boehner called a vote under pressure. Once congress reconvened the first week in january first they approved the 9 billion then the additional 50 billion two weeks later. The vote in the senate is on the remaining plus 50 billion. Were back after the break. Stay with us. Armed with the facts, and the arguments to feel confident in their positions. I want them to have the data and i want them to have the passion. 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Tell your doctor if youre prone to infections, have cuts or sores have had hepatitis b have been treated for heart failure, or if, while on enbrel, you experience persistent fever, bruising, bleeding, or paleness. [ phil ] get back to the things that matter most. Ask your rheumatologist if enbrel is right for you. [ doctor ] enbrel, the number one biologic medicine prescribed by rheumatologists. Announcer ladies and gentlemen, its the the Stephanie Miller show. Im walkin on sunshine im walkin on sunshine and its time to feel good hey, all right now and its time to feel good john and every morning. Week stephi brings truth and wisdom and facts to all of the good little sexy liberals. Even stephi can get stuck with a bug. Youre stuck with me today. Greetings, this is John Fuglesang filling in for the Stephanie Miller show all three hours and taking your calls on everything at 1800steph12. Im calling you from new york, however the hereoic steph crew remains intact in the burbank megaplex. Give it up for Jacki Schechner chris lavoie and the ever punctual jim ward. Thank you for doing this last minute. John i barely got to talk to you guys last week. Ill overcompensate today. It was great to see you in d. C. John i had a great time. It was great to get you guys on stage. At the sexy liberal show, we finally did our first show in d. C. I think were schedule to do about seven more in d. C. Before the end of the year. [ laughter ] john we were gifted by having the triumphant you can see it still on current. You guys really were a riot. We got to do a skit. Jim wrote a skit for us. John you want to share with the class what your skit was . Oh, it was a takeoff on the commercials where the guy says you, too for the cost of a cup of coffee can help this poor child. Instead of giving them a sandwich or medicine or water hitting us up for money. Could you just lean over and help the crew . You and your crew filming the commercial . Put your camera down and help them it was to buy tom brokaw an l. Trying to help the republicans get over their crushing defeat. A good time was had by all. John we want to help them get over theyre crushing defeat especially since paul ryan thinks his plan was political conquest. Now, hes just going to flatten you. Now were going to undo 30 years of reagans agenda. Im a serious guy. Premium support. [ laughter ] john he brought a chart. I loved it. Thats a way to win the tea party back after voting for taxes on the wealthy. Bring a chart. That worked for ross perot. Heres the deal see john were lucky because john mccain made a rare sunday morning talk show appearance. For those of you who dont know, john mccain has in his house he sleeps in the attic and he has a pole to slide down and a red phone in case a sunday morning show calls. [ laughter ] john so every week, the pole gets a ride. Hes there. Well be playing some clips from him. Today, we have to have a bit of a funeral for sarah palin on fox news. I dont know. I would love to think that weve seen the last of her but i dont think so. John i dont think so either. I dont think so. We have speculation coming out she may pop up on another network. John her people are calling mr. Zucker all weekend. She did make a comment on her interview with breitbart where she said we shouldnt just be preaching to the choir. Conservatives need to reach out. Which is funny because she did it on breitbart. Shes setting herself up to reach out to a larger audience without getting chastised for it. John i do think youre right. But also you know, when someone burns their bridges at knocks they have to at fox they have to make nice. When newt went on the air and slammed when newt gingrich, fox news paid contributor took a leave of absence. When newt went on the 700 debates and slammed fox news, someone doesnt want his locker back at amp roger ailes at camp roger ailes. 10 says that sarah doesnt land at current. John or al jazeera. We should give sarah palin some credit because it is not easy to raise the i. Q. Of fox by 50 points in one day. Well miss her. Well really, really miss her because shes given us so much. From a comreadic perspective. From a comedic perspective. John i think if she had run for president , she could have kept her brand going, she would have at least got an chance to go out there and circulate her talking points. She would have done what everyone who ran for president on the g. O. P. Side except perry and ryan did which is line up more public speaking gigs. Thats the only reason anyone runs for president on the g. O. P. Side. She would be culturally relevant. The only people who know she exist are people who watch hannity every night which is a median age of 72. Youre right. Rocky point has put together a tribute to sarah palin. John you dont say. Lets take a listen. She had wild mooses shot at by the scores all from the inside of a helicopter door ooh, what a hockey mom she was [ laughter ] ooh, what a hockey mom she was a whole chorus behind them. White folks were hoping that she would run they know that obama was taking away all their guns john thats not actually true. Ooh, what a hockey mom she was beautiful. Ooh, what a hockey mom, she was [ laughter ] all right. Rocky mountain mike. [ applause ] john Rocky Mountain mike, check out the big brain on that man i got to meet him in person for the first time in d. C. He was at the sexy liberal. John terrific guy. Best thing about stephanies show is all of the really talented people that you guys exploit for their talents. I had the pleasure of meeting one of his collaborators this weekend, audra. The woman who did the vocals for the old finger, the jan brewer parody bone finger. Same thing. John his brilliant parody of jan brewer to goldfinger. She does a mean shirley bassey. I got to meet her at the ball in minneapolis. This is the kind of event that more progressive radio stations and just you know, sane people in general should put on. You know what the blue state ball is, right . It is something that ktnf in minneapolis puts on every year. John a. M. 950. Most spectacular progressive talk station along with everyone that carries the Stephanie Miller show. Robert is the fine general manager. John they do this big event. I went and played there last year. They asked me to headline it and stand up. Ed she did ed schultz opened. The governor of minnesota was there. Wow. John congressman Keith Ellison was there. Last year, bill press was there. Stephanie has played there before, too. It was an honor to meet the cool, sexy liberals in minnesota. Theyre demanding more shows stephanie. Really a great time to tell filibuster jokes. Sounds like a great time was had by all. John the one thing conservatives have realized that liberals havent theyre together. Theyre really, really all set. They have their community. And progressives, were too busy fighting over whos got the best gun control policy. Or not. Shut up john it is always a pleasure to do events when liberals get their act together. It was so great to be in a roomful of people doing the lords work. Sort of like this one. I have to ask you guys, who watched the joint interview last night with barack obama and secretary Hillary Clinton . I dvred it then i watched some of it this morning. John what . Do you guys have lives . We get up at stupid oclock. Beauty resting doesnt happen without the rest part. John fortunately im not on camera. Halfway through, did you feel like omg they totally did it. It was the most kissy face lovefest ive ever seen. I dont understand why they actually did this. It was fascinating. They were both articulate and lovely. Hillary spoke can candidly about her disappointment in losing the campaign. I think it was so that president obama could endorse hillary to run for president in 2016. It is sad because joe biden is the loser. Hes been a real partner and so effective. If he comes out and endorses hillary now and then the next four years where does that put biden . John i dont think joe biden will run. He will be 74 at the time. I think that the president would have the good taste to not endorse either one of them fair enough. John lets not forget. In 1988 when reagan was president and george h. W. Bush was running and so was pat robertson. President reagan didnt endoargs his own didnt endorse his own Vice President until robertson dropped out of the race. I dont think joe biden is going to run. You dont think so . I dont think so. John i would like him to. He will be 74. He will do whatever he wants. I think he will be a wonderful statesman like jimmy carter was. John he will be very useful. Hell do public speaking. He will do whatever he wants. Hes such a powerful advocate for progressive causes. To be honest, it is gate everyone is putting a laurel wreath around hillarys head. I think Dennis Kucinich kept a lot of the democrats honest when they were running in 2008 and 2004. And i wouldnt be broken hearted if Elizabeth Warren ran against hillary. I think if the democrats give it to her then thats going to be really kind of a drag and disappointing. I help to is a bit more interesting. Yep, i do too. All right. It is time to take a break. So lets do that now. John when we come back, i with a tonight play sound bytes from this thing last night. Parts of it, it reminded me of okay katie, thank you for your five Year Contract. Heres your check. Plus, the new immigration deal, the filibuster and hybrid car that runs on air. Good god. Its the Stephanie Miller show. Announcer fresh republican outrage. You keep listening shell make more. Its the Stephanie Miller show. I think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. They can question whether im right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. Come on baby and rescue me because i need you by my side cant you see that im lonely Stephanie Miller. John this is the Stephanie Miller show. Im John Fuglesang filling in for stephanie because she be illen. Yes, i went all the way back to run dmc for that. You know what . I have my adidas on. John wow. Were getting way too retro. John that was the dawn of materialism and hiphop when run dmc did my adidas. Were taking your calls all morning at 1800steph12. Of course the great Jacki Schechner and chris lavoie. You did just flash your adidas. John let me explain whats going on here. Stephanie is out. Im in new york filling in from the boo radley studio. So jacki chris and jim are in l. A. I still have current tv on directv here in the studio so im watching all of you all and you cant see me because i look like the crypt keeper. I was saying before we started because John Fuglesangs looks are his real liability. I havent slept in six months. I have this horrible baby i live with. Theyre horrible people. I gotta say. Babies, theyre terrible americans. They really, really are. So selfish. Smack you and punch you and poke you and crap on you and they will exploit you and take advantage and you forgive them babies are chris brown is what im trying to say. Chris brown is in trouble overnight. Another Chris Brown Deb be acle. He jumped frank ocean. Not to be confused with jumping the shark. He jumped frank ocean in a Recording Studio parking lot here in hollywood. John frank ocean is not a girl. He could kick chris browns butt. Apparently he parked in chris browns parking space. Is that what theyre calling it now . [ laughter ] john wow i thought after drake, chris brown learned not to get in fights with boys anymore. I cant wait until chris brown gets out of prison and writes his tellall book. I get a lot of crap on twitter for the chris brown jokes. This guy has no humility. He choke and beat up a woman. He still deserves to be passed around the cellblock like a blunt at the source awards. We had a republican on the line. I want to go to keith in texas who is calling about i think immigration is going to be the big story of the week. Keith is calling in to think been what might be the story that affects our lives the most. Good morning. Youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Thank you john. This is a coasttocoast thing. Were bicoastal. Caller yes, how about that. Im off the subject but i understand back when i was in high school, gerrymandering was a dirty word. It was illegal. Johnson thought hey neat idea so that we can have minority representation lets make gerrymandering legal and the 65 voters rights act. Guess whos kicking us in the teeth with it now. John i see. Youre saying that Lyndon Johnson started this to help minorities and now it is being used to hurt minorities at the ballot box. I think youre on to something, keith. Caller we gotta be careful what we put into laws because republicans know how to kick with us the teeth to kick us in the teeth with it. John wow. Lbj, many people say he was the last great liberal. But i guess as long as we blame him for stuff thats great. I dont know what to say. Were you appalled by what happened in virginia last week . Yes absolutely. They did it while the president was being inaugurated. It was the only time that they could have a 2019 vote. John exactly. They did it because of a civil rights veteran in the Virginia Legislature who went to d. C. Anyone in the media address this . Even when the republican governor of the state said it was wrong, how were they able to do this on Martin Luther king day . Itit was a holiday. Werent they closed . There hasnt been any conversation about how procedurally they were able to get that done. John many think it wasnt legal. It will be challenged in the courts. It might be because virginia doesnt take dr. Kings birthday holiday seriously. I dont know if you know this but i spent a lot of time there. My moms from virginia. I have a lot of family there. Im from virginia. You know its not Martin Luther king. It is jackson they honor two confederate generals and this other fella. Wow. Cognitive dissidence. Some republicans are backing away from it. And legislation hasnt passed on holidays before. There is no law saying you cant pass legislation on holidays. John it is shady. To me, it seems like it is totally shady. John but on a federal holiday theyre able to do that . Im slow on these things but it was really, really disgusting. I dont think it is going to hold up in court. This is the problem facing our republican friends. We had a republican on hold who i understand dropped. Im sorry he did because i think the thing is theyre not winning elections. When theyre not winning elections, what are they going to do . Theyre either going to try to reach out to voters by having more progressive policies or theyre going to try to cheat. It looks like theyre going hard for the cheating. Bobby jindal, of course, well be talking to rude pundit in a minute. He went before the rnc last week. Had a blunt message for his fellow conservatives. He said we have to stop being the stupid party. Good for him. John weve had enough of that. Youre right jacki. However, is bobby jindal the messenger for that . Because he said we have the offensive and bizarre comments. Hes talking about mourdock and akin. The guys opposed to abortion even in case of rape and incest. Guess where jindal stands . Hes saying it is okay to have the views, just dont say them out loud. Which doesnt serve the Republican Party very well. John it doesnt. Bobby jindal calling the rest of them stupid. He once wrote in the objection fert review about how he participated in a friends exorcism. He was opposed to t. A. R. P. And took payments anyway. I didnt say he was hypocritical. I said good for him for calling them stupid. John well be talking about it with rude pundit when we come back. Its the Stephanie Miller show. Very, very excited about that and very proud of that. Beltway politics from inside the loop. We tackle the big issues here in our nations capital, around the country and around the globe. Dc columnist and four time emmy winner bill press opens currents morning news block. Well do our best to carry the flag from 6 to 9 every morning. Liberal and proud of it. Desmond tutu said a quote that is one of my favorite quotes. We are tied together in a web of humanity. 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C. , i was sitting in the audience for her set because i was helping the audio guy run cues. I have never seen her give a better set. She was so funny. When she brought that man up out of the audience and held him in her arms for three minutes, it was disturbing. Im still sore from laughing. [ laughter ] steph is legally married to this guy in guam after the show the other night. I think youre right. One of the reasons why i guess im most happy to be here, im grateful to be around the smart people like jacki and chris. John for the occasional brilliant guest you coerced into calling in. Who would it be this morning . Rude pundit ooh pa, pa, pa, ooh good morning, rude. John how is it going lee . Hello surprise john. [ laughter ] john well, stephanie youre some guy who jumped out of the alley. John i am named after a guy who pays call girls, thats true. But lee, i want to let you know stephanies not here. Shes distraught she wont be able to see sarah palin shucking and jiving on fox news anymore. It sort of cuts down on the number of stomach pills that i have to take. [ laughter ] the number of bromides. The number of new screens i have to get from throwing things at it. John where will sean hannity insert his nose . I love how optimistic you are about what hes inserting. John just his nose, trust me. You know, lee, sarah palin spent more time as a fox news parttime contributor than she did as full time governor of alaska. Wow. Apparently just as effective. John she did quit this job. It seems like roger ailes gave her the out by offering her to quit offering her half of her salary. At least she got to say i quit and she wasnt fired. He let her walk out of there with whatever she considers dignity. [ laughter ] i just love that it was probably oh you know what . Well pay you minimum wage and i dont know, you can go hit up the snack bar. [ laughter ] john we were talking before the break lee, in your wonderful book, the rude pundit almanac, you talked about her as a potential 2012 president ial candidate. She didnt run. It was a horrible blow to comedians everywhere. I bet today rude, shes wishing she had. She would have expanded her brand in a way that fox news and a canceled reality show never could have done it. Thats what i said in the book. If she wants to keep the sarah palin brand or sarahco going shes got to run for president because otherwise who cares . She wasnt on the National Stage long enough and frankly, with you know foxs dying audience, all of the shutins and elderly that are watching them, that of course she was going to fade. John i think youre right. Right now she is essentially a facebook celebrity. John even the New York Times rather pointedly mentioned even though she left fox, she was still sending out messages on facebook. Basically shes the tela tequila of punditry. Right now shes an inarticulate tree falling in the forest. [ laughter ] john what do you think she can contribute rude . Were not going to ever see her run for National Office again . No. Were never really going to see her anymore. She is going to be a fringe leader. The sad part is it will be increasingly dwindling and i think at some point well see her on dancing with the stars. John i think youre right. When she i used to joke she will be the First Major Party ticket candidate to one day host a cosmetics infomercial but now i think shes one step closer. As her fan base dwindles, do you think, rude, it will become ever more right wing . For her to stay relevant, shell have to go more and more to the right to have a very loud minority following her . I think so. She had inklings of that. The way she threw around the word socialist, she was trying to appeal to a far right group of people that are just simply waiting for her dog whistle. John i think youre right. It is sad because she could have offered something. She wasnt the worst governor alaska ever had. She did raise taxes and regulate the oil companies. I think she could have been interesting if she decided to be. It looks like she wanted to be a celebrity. Thats the thing. That was the calculation and even accepting the v. P. Spot with mccain was okay, what is this going to do for sarah. It wasnt what is this going to do for the country or alaska. It made alaska into something of a laughingstock for electing her when, youre right she actually i threw out there she wasnt an effective governor. She wasnt a good governor but she actually did do some things like you said, she did raise taxes which is something that everybody always forgot about when she was running and talking about you know, the taxes being too high. So shes the thinking mans michele bachmann. Oh, wow thats painful. That made my brain hurt. That creates some kind of vortex in space and time. John i think weve given her more time than she deserves. I will tell everyone that to read rudes book. He has hilarious commentary on her. The ten nastiest thing sarah palin said in her three years on fox. Calling for a chickfila boycott has a Chilling Effect on our First Amendment rights. The stuff she says those are our First Amendment rights. John exactly. Stimulus didnt stimulate anything. Everything shes been wrong about on fox news. Speak of people being wrong i was in pennsylvania last week. I drove through and i saw a sign that said if youre gonna vote for a socialist get out of my damn country. I thought you dont understand what voting is about, do you . John if you dont like socialism, you dont ever say anything nice about your libraries, roads streetlights or army. Right. John i want to move closer to home and talk about great column you wrote rude. Something that kind of shocked me in the great state of tennessee with the courthouse. I thought they couldnt really top fighting the ten commandment ins courthouses. Having a place you put up thou shalt not kill is pretty funny. In cookeville, tennessee . In cookeville, tennessee they decided that a pastor there, a Southern Baptist pastor decided that what was missing from the Putnam County courthouse were the words in god we trust. Okay, fine. It is on the money. It is essentially the model of the united states. Because eisenhower got that passed in 1956. John it is not the conservative point of view. The conservative point of view would be a separation of church and state as the founders intended. 18th Century Point of view is putting in god we trust in everything. They raised money to put in god we trust in two foot tall gold letters, not just on the front of the courthouse but on all four sides above every entrance. So that no matter where you walk into the courthouse, you see in god we trust. Thats very donald trump of them. I just want to know whats wrong with gods ego . That he just needs to know that the signs not big enough john again, its not about god. This isnt about christianity either. It is about christian supremacy. Putting the word god in giant gold letters is not about your devotion in faith. Jesus lines out in matthew 6 5 youre supposed to pray in private and be humble about it. Were christian folk and if youre not bug err off. Bugger off. It is not that far from mur frees boro, tennessee where there was a bit of an uproar over a mosque being built a year or two ago. And but the people of a town nearby algood, tennessee thought that it looked so good that now they want to put it on their city hall. John really . Oh, yeah. This is not to mention in cookeville which i actually have friends there that brought this to my attention when you drive to cookeville, there is a giant cross that is right next to the highway. Not on a church or anything like that. Somebody funded lets put a giant cross so that when you come into cookeville, you see it. And it is lit up every night. And this is this is not to mention that when you just a little east of cookeville, the giant Confederate Flag right next to the highway. Oh really . Oh, yeah. Line on the property. Huge Confederate Flag. You can see it forever. John nothing says christianity or patriotism like quitting america because you want to keep other human beings as livestock and pets. I mean really. Flying the flag of an enemy nation is the best way to show how patriotic you are. That would be great. If you put the rising sun next to it, you know. Lets put it all up there. John rude, shifting gears. I want to get your thoughts on the benghazi hearings last week. I know youve written about it. For me, watching it, it was like watching the benghazi hearings and how the right wing media covered secretary clinton afterwards. It was like come for the hypocrisy, stay for the misogyny. For rand paul and these guys being complete hypocrites compared to how bush reacted after a terrorist attack and how theyre reacting now to see sean hannity saying hillary unglued. This cover of the New York Post implying she drives bill clinton into other womens arms. The sexism was insane. Out how you feel how did you feel about watching it . At least they werent talking about her bangs. [ laughter ] but no, i felt the same way. I thought wow especially when she had that moment of getting angry and upset i thought theyre just going to turn that into my god isnt she so pitchy and of course, we dont want a woman to behave like this. Whereas, you know, and then they accused her of being disingenuous when she was giving her Opening Statement she choked up, talking about the families of the people who had died. So what do you want . What does she have to do to demonstrate she has real emotions that matter . That dont matter in relations to how they make the men feel, how they matter as a human being. And also, in response to what was a kind of you know, for lack of a better word, the bullying questions you know, that they kept asking the same thing even though that she simply didnt have an answer or that it was just crap they were making up like rand paul with the turkey thing. Turkey . What the hell are you talking about . John in fairness to the secretary, she can handle tough questions. It would have been nice if republicans asked tough questions when people were killed in our embassies under president bush. It was never a priority for them back then. Likewise to see about how when george bush theyre saying barack obama didnt exact act quickly enough. You know, remember when george bush was sitting numbly in a classroom. As we were under attack and they were acting like thats like john wayne free basing a low testosterone drug . You know, these guys have the Attention Span of the guy from memento. I loved the ultimate projection was when they were talking about to hillary like you had a memo. Or an email that said something about that we might get attacked. I thought really guys . Are you really going to go there . Is there no selfawareness here at all . Is there no sort of great god of irony that could come down at that moment and hit you with lightning bolts . John Condoleezza Rice got a memo and they promoted her. Rude pundit, thank you. Any time i get to be on the air with you, it is a lot of fun. Read his block at rude pundit. John well be back. I want to play cuts from the Obama Hillary lovefest. I want to get the listeners thoughts at 1800steph12. Its the Stephanie Miller show. Red, white and steph its the Stephanie Miller show. vo shes joy behar. And the best part is that current will let me say anything. What the hell were they thinking . 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Theres also another little fact that will make you feel old. The simpsons monorail episode aired 20 years ago this year. John wow. The famous monorail up sode. Episode. Movie for best picture was malcolm x unforgiven and scent of a woman. Time flies when youre following politics. When youre old. I just had a conversation yesterday with a girlfriend of mine ive known since we were 6. Her daughter is turning 6. She said to me weve known each other that long and i hung up. [ laughter ] john i dont buy that getting older stuff. You either get older or you get better. Some of the youngest people ive known have been old people who have figured it out that life is a gift and youre supposed to be happy. 29yearolds who say were old now. And if you think youre old its done, man. Im dead then. [ laughter ] john jim youre one of the funniest guys i know. You keep people young every day. Okay. John were taking your calls at 1800steph12. A lot going on in the attic. John yes jim you look seriously, jim you are so energetic. You are so funny and so alive. You have such a glow. Youre so witty. I think you really really great for a man of 70. I mean that. You look much better than sting. Sherrie is calling us from louisiana about her great governor, bobby jindal. Good morning sherrie youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Caller good morning, yall. John how are you doing . Caller good. Everybody talks about what bobby jindal says but i want to take a few minutes to talk about what hes doing down here. John how about a minute. Caller okay. He has closed Food Stamp Office across the state where people have to go 100 miles or more to go to a Food Stamp Office to get food stamps. He has bankrupted public free hospitals that have been open since before the civil war. John thats because hes christian. Caller he has decided that to let the local government, which our parish sent out ballots to the people who have kids in school to decide who gets fired whether we want music or whether we want art or whether we want p. E. Instead of having his own balls to make those darn decisions. John amen. Caller he says here fire your kids favorite teacher because were not going to pay her anymore. John wow. Sounds like it is the stupid party. John can i also say that since youre on education, can i slip in he proposed the education cuts while signing the louisiana Academic Freedom act which lets public schoolteachers discuss creationism in science class . Caller oh, amen oh dont even get me started. John he doesnt want the party to be stupid. Caller yes sir. We just had on the ballot, we had like seven or eight amendments and on the the ballot was on there to carry a gun anywhere like at my daughters pta meeting we got people packing in the back. Why do you need a gun in a school . Explain that to me. John all of the socialism. There is a lot of socialism in public schools. You gotta be careful. It might catch. John all of the churches this week have on their billboards, there were no guns in school when there was prayer in school. I dont know which schools theyve been to but every pta meeting we have a prayer. The kids are not allowed to sing pop songs in their choir. A lot of them are hymns. Im sorry that im yelling. Im worked up. John can i say every time we have a church say when there was god in school, there werent guns in school. Thats a disgusting insult. We had a shooting in an amish school a couple of years ago. If you believe gods everywhere, then hes in school whether you follow the constitution or not. Thats people blaming James Madison for school shootings, by the way because it was his idea you know it. Can i also point out hes against bobby jindal is against abortion in cases of rape or incest. Hes for a constitutional amendment banning flag burning but against the fairness doctrine because he thinks that infringes on free speech. He named himself after the youngest brady bunch boy. Thats the truth. Good news about him. And hes proexorcism. John he will never be president. Thank you for your calls. Stephanie miller, were taking your calls right after the break. [ theme ] hello current tv land. This is chris lavoie. Weve got John Fuglesang in the new york bureau. Say hello. There he is. John im right here. Hi guys. Remember, this is a toss to jacki. John im only here today because im trying to talk chris and jacki and jim into coming on viewpoint every night at 8 00 p. M. Youre on every night at 8 00 p. M. On weeknights. You dont want us to come on every night. I want you to come on every night. Thats a little excessive. I like you but thats a lot. John ill set fool news update from jacki. I cant tolerate anybody that often. Coming up just after the news weve got Eric Boehlert with rightwing world and weve got more of your calls so give us a call at 1800steph12. Right now lets get a news update from Jacki Schechner. Should we mention steph is out sick with food poisoning. Yes. Good morning, everybody. A Bipartisan Group of eight senators will announce today they have reached an agreement on Immigration Reform. Republicans john mccain, Lindsey Graham, marco rubio and jeff flake are joining the democrats Chuck Schumer and bennett to introduce a set of principles they want to guide immigration legislation as it moves through congress. Heres what the four basics of this proposal look like. First create a tough but fair path to citizenship for Illegal Immigrants already here. Contingent on meeting Border Security metrics. Changes the system in a way that helps our economy. Set up a Verification Program and overhaul the system for letting future workers into the united states. The goal is to have legislation drafted by the end of march. The president s going to travel to vegas tomorrow and that is where he will speak publicly on his plans to move Immigration Reform and make that an immediate priority. Of course, hes also moving on gun violence at the same time. So hes going to have to work at those paths simultaneously. We can attribute the new republican willingness to go along with republican reform to the republicans losing seven out of ten hispanic votes in november. Mccain and company have some selling to do. They need to convince their colleagues their plans dont amount to amnesty. The bipartisan agreement does intentionally include some provisions defined to help that cause. For example, Illegal Immigrants would have to pay back taxes and fines and have to wait in line behind those who are pursuing a path legally and are still waiting. Also, certain Border Security measures that have to be implemented and those parameters met before any of the 11 million here illegally get the chance to pursue citizenship. Were back with more show after the break. Stay with us. Going to do the young turks. I think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. They know that im not bsing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. When the democrats are wrong, they know that im going to be the first one to call them out. They can question whether im right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. What we need are people prepared for the careers of our new economy. By 2025 we could have 20 million jobs without enough College Graduates to fill them. Thats why at Devry University were teaming up with Companies Like cisco to help make sure everyone is ready with the knowhow we need for a new tomorrow. 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John ive been told by the chris brown fans that actually he parked in frank oceans spot and frank walked up to him and started the fight. Hit him. John yeah. Somebody wants to pick a fight with chris brown . Because he has a penchant for fighting . John like i said hes getting in fights with boys now and that means progress. Frank ocean doesnt seem like the kind that would fight someone willynilly. John he doesnt seem like a guy who wants to throw his career in the toilet. Hes riding high. John well see. I guess i dont know. I dont know who was behind it. I look forward to learning all of the details. Nothing is more interesting to me than the personal beefs of modern r b stars. Ill be glued to tmz all day. John were taking your calls at 1800steph12. A lot of you are on hold. Well get to all of you i promise. Im happy to welcome our next guest. Ive been pleased to have this man joining me on viewpoint since ive taken over hosting. Hes one of the brightest thinkers in analysis. Hes a senior fellow at media matters. Please welcome Eric Boehlert. Stephanie Eric Boehlert from media matters doing the lords work as usual. Hurt so good come on, baby Eric Boehlert. Hurt so good stephanie lets dive into the rightwing world. I dont know ha that means. Stephanie Eric Boehlert who we love. Good morning Eric Boehlert. Good morning. Good morning. John welcome to the steph show eric. Part of my assault to interview you on as many chances as possible. It is great to have you here. I know youre as broken up about losing sarah palin from the Greta Van Susteren show. It is definitely an end of an era. I think most people expected she wouldnt be back but you know, its interesting. If you go back to she was hired january has been an interesting month. January 09, glenn becks show debuted. The week of obamas inauguration. John january 09 was the week that oreilly and hannity were given fouryear deals by fox. Thats right. They were reupping january of 2010. Sarah palin came aboard fox with a reportedly Million Dollar a Year Contract to be a pundit. Now here we are in january of 13, obamas reelected easily, celebrating sort of basking in the glow of his second inauguration. And the same week, sarah palin and fox break up after reportedly fox offered her next to nothing to stay and she decided to leave. 2010, it looked like beck and palin and fox with the tea party, they really were going to sort of change the face of american politics. John they did. They did temporarily. John they marginalized the whole brand. Fast forward three years. Beck is gone. Obama wins easily and now palins gone. The whole thing sort of imploded as it had to because it was so reckless and it was so sort of radically hateful. You know, beck with his conspiracies and palin about her nonstop sense of victimization and things like that. So its worth noting this is soft the end of an era. Fox itself, still very much lost to conspiracies. Still very, very much loss in a sense of selfpity particularly with obamas inauguration. But its not what roger ailes thought he was going to build. Thats not what they have anymore. John do you think this is my last question about palin. I want to move on to fox news and their outrage model but do you think that ails did this to give pail an out so she could say she quit . Was it an insult to of oar her so little money or was he doing her a favor . I think it was an insult. My guess is they felt like they had to offer something. There was some negotiation you know. It sounds like she had been making a million. They offered her maybe a tenth of that. It would have been insulting. If she had taken it, of course, the way fox news works they play hardball, that would have leaked. Everyone would have she came back for a tenth or whatever. It would have been in that business. Would have been kind of humiliating. The point of no return for her was the blood libel january of 11. She seemed to have no idea what blood libel meant. The antisemitic implications of it. She refused to apologize. That was the end of her pundit career. John after having a rifle scope on Gabby Giffords district. You know what Jacki Schechner pointed out fox apparently paid sarah palin, if you factor out by the word, how much did she make . It was 15 per word. It is from the university of Minnesota Humphrey School of public affairs. Smart politics blog. They figured out she spoke more than 189,000 words over 50 appearances. It comes out to 1. 85 per word. It doesnt say how many coherent words. John does this mean some unpaid intern had to pay how many words she said . Im not sure how many of those were real words. John do contractions count as two words . If you looked at the word count from 2012, she was on so infrequently. She was probably making 50 a word compared to 2010, 2011. Hannity and van susteren interviewed her 55 times for 3 4 of her appearances over the last 36 months. Poor intern oh, my god. John i think eric, it augers for the future of fox news. Your latest piece is entitled are conservatives rethinking the fox news outrage model. You make a good point that maybe, just maybe some of our republican brothers and sisters are sick about this all hissy fit, all propaganda model going on through fox. Eric erickson who is fairly prominent conservative commentator at cnn, i believe one of the founders writes over at red state he wrote a piece last week saying you know, basically, lets drop this phony outrage thing. He did mention fox but it was obvious he was talking about outrage pimps on the left and the right. The entire column are about what he claims are these conservative town cryers on the right. He makes very good points. It does nothing to build the movement. It doesnt get anyone elected. It turns people off. Its awful to listen to. And john do you really think it doesnt get anyone elected . Couldnt you say the reason why the republicans did as well as they did in 2010 was that outrage machine got people organized and noblized . I think its different now. I think that was ericksons point was in 2010, we did something. We got out o there. We knocked on doors. We held rallies. We created this movement, yes it imploded. But we created this thing where if now, all of the grassroots, all of the action is gone and all thats left is this just sort of phony outrage. I cant believe fill in the blank said fill in the blank. Thats all thats left is the tea party has sort of crumbled. His point was we have no infrastructure. No ones doing anything. Fox news, you know, is just complaining about how that democrat was elected and now he wants to govern as a democrat. That doesnt really do anything. John exactly. It seems like thats all weve heard since the state of the union. Theyre saying obama come mean anything. Friends on the right said obama meant everything he said. I imagine it is somewhere in the middle. It is. The phony outrage and just sort of being taking umbrage to everything turn on fox news this morning. Whats the phony outrage . The Clinton Obama interview last night. You know. And as we were talking Inauguration Day you know, it was only a matter since obama was the centerpiece of attention on monday, everyone woke up knowing it was only a matter of time before the right wing media and fox would find something to freak out about and it took about six minutes into his address before they all figured out what it was. Oh hes too liberal. This is too partisan. It was inevitable. The only question is whats the fake imaginary slate going to be today and whats it going to be tomorrow and the day after that . Again, i think erickson, he doesnt work for fox. He doesnt really do that at cnn so he can afford to sort of call it out. But i think the point is it doesnt get anyone elected and i think the point is fox is interested in clicking phony outrage so the same three Million People will tune in every 20 minutes. To be outraged all day long. But as a Republican Party has found out that does not equate to getting people elected. Thats where the conflict is. John youre right. Fox news, they went from being the propaganda wing of the party to limbaugh, running the party. I dont think they care about elections. They care about ratings and profit. Thats why they may be hurting the republicans. Can you hang out throughout the break . Sure. John i want to talk to you about some hilarious tweets including Tucker Carlson being sexist while taking on sexism. Well get to that and much more. Its the the Stephanie Miller show. Announcer the station where the handbasket to hell leaves from. Its the Stephanie Miller show. vo she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. Ok, so theres wiggle room in the ten commandments, thats what youre saying. vo shes joy behar. Current will let me say anything. Dont be sissy, just get busy why so serious so raise your glass if you are wrong in the right ways we will never be anything but loud nittygritty dirty little freaks john its the Stephanie Miller show. Im John Fuglesang. This is not janis joplin. Dance patient dance party u. S. A. John im watching you. You can still see the stephanie show if you get current. If you dont fire your Cable Company and get them. Im hosting viewpoint now and im thrilled to welcome back on the show, Eric Boehlert of media matters. Before we get to rightwing world, i want to ask you about Tucker Carlsons tweet he sent out about letting women serve in active duty combat. Did you have any thoughts on that . Yeah. He had two bizarre ones. One, women in violence act serving in the military. One, women being attacked by a partner is the same as volunteering to serve your country. And the second was equating feminism with what was it, women having the opportunity to get their limbs blown off. Stephanie Tucker Carlson noted antiwar activist. Noted front line veteran. Now lecturing the likes of Tammy Duckworth about what its like to serve in the military. You know, its just right wing has lost immigration, gay rights women serving in the military. It is all slipping away from them. And theyre left with sort of these angry sort of hollow retards. John so tired of the sexism. It has been so brought out of focus over the response of allowing women to serve. Which again is a recommendation that came from the joint chiefs of staff. This was not imposed on them by any civilians in the pentagon or the white house. The joint chiefs recommended it because women are already in combat. Lets start paying the ones who are in combat, what they deserve it is not like every woman in the military will be in combat. Youve got to earn it. Theres going to be tests. I mean come on, theyre not just going to send people out there who arent qualified. We dont have time to talk about hillarys testimony on the hill last week. Just the floodgates of right wing misogyny that that opened up. Preview of whats to come, i think. John i think youre right eric. They had eight years of hating her as first lady. 12 years of loving her as a senator and secretary of state and now theyre looking at 2016, theyre going to hate her all over again to hurt her so chris christie, who they also hate, can become president. One more thing about the women in combat. Theres so many men in the military who arent fit for combat. There were so many women who are ready for combat and havent been allowed to serve. I want to go to Lieutenant Colonel boykin will track number 12, the guy who came out a few years ago and said he knew we would win the war on terror because we worship a real god and they worship the false god. Never mind the fact that both religions agree it is the same god. Heres jerry boykin on fox news on sunday. Mixing the genders in those combat units where there is no privacy, where theyre out on extended operations and theres no opportunity for people to have any privacy whatsoever. I certainly dont want to be in that environment with a female because its degrading and human igiating enough to have humiliating enough to do your personal hygiene and the normal functions among your teammates. John eric, is he saying we can send them to kill people and be killed and be shot at but it must be degrading if someone sees my weewee . Yeah. The idea that this hasnt been discussed within the pentagon for at least a decade. Hasnt been signed off by all of the senior officials and things like that. I mean what do these people think . Obama called up the generals and said make this happen . For someone like boykin whos been in the military to pretend he has no idea, you know, how decisions are made in the military, it is kind of funny. John exactly. I think hes auditioning for a new job thats opened up at box. Lets go to Rush Limbaugh, the bloated gasbag himself talking about women in the military. This is Rush Limbaugh trying not to be sexist. We create we call it the allamerican first calvary amazon battalion. You have synchronized menstrual cycles, timed in such a way so that at any on any day of the year you are guaranteed to have a fighting female force all in pms. Wow. All have premenstrual syndrome. You can do it because they synchronize the cycles and pretty damn good during combat. At the same time. Talk to any man about it. Not being sexist here. [ laughter ] john can we start he says the token female, rush makes me ashamed to be a racist drug addict. It is extraordinary to me that he can what is this obsession with men speaking about womens issues in a horribly, sort of uneducated, derogatory way. What is the obsession . John in rushs case, i think its rush knowing his audience. Its so unbelievably offensive in a way that totally i would say uncovers how little these men know about women. John exactly. Thats the key. One of the keys. Were coming up on the sandra fluke anniversary. What did limbaugh show us among his hatred and then the sexism. Lack of understanding of how contraception works. I met her for the first time in d. C. Over inauguration weekend. It was very hard very rarely am sort of awestruck by anyone. The nature of this business. It was hard not to say to her just thank you thank you for just standing up and being strong and taking the heat for something that so many of us believe in. And it was just that moment of i didnt know what to say to her other than thank you. She seems strong. Shes pmsing john i think that men think that pms is this biological phenomenon that gives women a license to bitch. And men are like that all month long but lack a medical excuse for it. I call this pms envy. Im happy to give you my pms. If you want that excuse, you can have it. John you know what . Pms isnt a Strong Enough term for what men suffer from all the time. Really quick eric. Not fair if we dont get sexism from a woman. We dont have time. John never mind. What a loss. Eric boehlert of media matters thank you so much for joining us today. Sure thing. Talk to you soon. John always a pleasure. Well be right back taking your calls after this on the Stephanie Miller show. Hand of government. I want to have that conversation. Lets talk about it. Really . Youre going to lay people off because now the government is going to help you fund your healthcare. Really . 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It was most inspiring. It really was. How everyone keeps saying it is an endorsement for her presidency. I dont think it was. I think it was an example for our kids. I know my 14yearold daughter took that away that how they bitterly fought and how in the end, what they disagreed on, came together to work toward the betterment of our country and it is such a wonderful example of what real democracy should be. Differing ideas coming together for the greater good. John i couldnt agree more. You stated it beautifully. Thank you for the call. It is interesting. I thought one of the best moments of it was hillary and barack talking about how in the campaign, it was kind of rough during the primary season because they both agreed on so many things. They didnt know how to fight each other. Right. We got in on the Stephanie Miller show, we got in quite a few fights with hillary supporters because stephanie was a big time obama supporter. I kind of felt like it tore the party apart a little bit. John a little bit. Ultimately, it made the party stronger. Ultimately, it did. John lets listen to secretary clinton on cut two from last night on 60 minutes with steve croft. In politics and in democracy sometimes you win elections. Sometimes you lose elections. And i worked very hard but i lost. And then president obama asked me to be secretary of state. I said yes. And why did he ask me and why did i say yes . Because we both love our country. John very well put the president had this to say cut one, about his time working. Obama i want the country to appreciate just what an extraordinary role shes played during the course of my administration and a lot of the success weve had internationally have been because of her hard work. Im sorry. I have to disagree with patricia. That sounded like hillarys kickoff for 2016. John i put this out to the brilliant folks in steph land. Why do they do this . The president called 60 minutes and wanted to do this joint interview. Something theyve never done before. Why was it done . Was it just a love letter thanking Hillary Clinton for her service . Thats great. We have never seen this done for any cabinet member by a president. Any theories . Hmm. It was a kickoff. John certainly seems that way. Thats the only thing i can think of. Jim . You seem like youre thinking about it. I cant see any other reason for it. Yeah. John it seems like it was very diplomatic. I have no doubt hes sincere about thanking her for her service to the nation and his administration. But at the same time it looks like they had a very strategic partnership. And that Hillary Clinton if she wants to be president in 2016, the job is hers for the taking. I think thats great and it is nice to see how happy that makes our democratic friends. I do think it would be worthwhile for democratic friends to think about what kind of president theyre looking for rather than personalities because while i admire Hillary Clinton very much and if shes the nominee ill vote for her i would like to see someone a bit more progressive challenge her for the nomination. I think that would be good for the party. I agree. John weve had lots of nice, moderate president s. A liberal democrat wouldnt be the worst experiment to try. I love the president s speech. As lee camp said on viewpoint last week, look at the appointments. And looking at the appointments, you know, hes still barack obama himself said in the 70s, he would be called a moderate republican which is all thats not slamming the president. Thats who he is. But it is a way of slamming our republicans who keep calling this radical socialist. If thats ad are cal socialist lets get bernie sanders. Any suggestions on who could be a liberal person to run . John i would theres very few politicians i would campaign doortodoor for but Elizabeth Warren is one of them. I look forward to seeing what the next four years bring. I would be thrilled if she was the president of my country. Who knows. Jerry brown might decide hes going to go for it. He seems to run every other decade. He might be a little old now. John a little old. That old guy looks really good in california right now. Balanced the budget. That old guy managed to get the voters to vote for their own tax increase. Now, it has been a blot of austerity for the voters of california. Theyll have surpluses. Im a real fiscal conservative. I did it. I have to say, i was a little nervous when jerry brown became governor. John yeah . Did you vote for him . Well, i mean it was either him or the republican who was running. I dont think i voted for him in the primaries though. John really . Jerry brown, you know, i think back when he ran against bill clinton in 92, i thought he was terrific back then. He was talking about a flat tax before the libertarians were. I dont think he favors that. Seeing what he did in oakland and i was a fan of the progressive talk radio show he did for awhile, it is interesting to see, i know hes irritated a lot of our friends in california. Hes cut funding. I have friends who have Handicapped Children who are not fans of his because of his cuts. Theyve made a stronger, healthier economy. He seems to have proven his own point. We will see. We shall see. John who else is on the phone . Weve got gary in washington. John ive been waiting so long. Gary, youre here to talk about my favorite subject of the week, harry reid. Caller yeah, i would like to know where he comes from. I thought he was a progressive. This guy he caved with Mcconnell John you might want to lower the volume on your radio. Can you do that . Caller just a second. John i dont like hearing myself on a good day. Lets go to the next person. John is he gone . We lost him. Sorry, gary, were gone now. John in california, youre calling about gays. Hey john. Caller hi. Im still here. Im ready. Okay. I was watching cspan on friday and they had a thing with Foster Friess on there. They were asking him about gay rights and did he favor more rights for gays. He said well, my main mission is to protect gays from shria law. Im your biggest fan is you drill down on this, look it up. Cspan, it is called politics and the Republican Party friday, cspan 2. It happened to be rolling in the aisle it just had me rolling in the aisle. John the man who fought for bit control by telling women to hold aspirin between their knees. Caller leave it up to john to come up with that. John i have most free time than most adults. Caller shout out to jim ward jim, okay, jim, the day after the election, you said something that i laughed so many times, i just gotta hear it again. It was that Mitch Mcconnell was seen crawling back into his terrarium to suck on a piece of vodkasoaked celery. I think dear god, thats the coolest thing ive ever heard. From john, thank you, guys john thank you john. Thank you thanks for playing pong during the interview too. Richard is calling us from chicago about the g. O. P. Good morning richard youre on the Stephanie Miller show. Richard . Richards gone. John we didnt get to talk about harry reid too much before. Deb in california, are you there . Hey there love. Go ahead. Caller so im calling about harry reid. Im going to pick up the baton where the other gentleman left off. John please. Caller so i was hoping we all might be able to figure out the positive solution to the faila hrve buster. The progressives in socalled red states really need to be on the phone and emailing their senators and their Congress People because the only people that from out of state only people we can call is harry reid and john boehner and these representatives and these senators are the ones that need to be contacted by actual people in their state. They dont listen to us when we call. They just dont. John let me ask you about harry reid. This is a guy who said that he was not going to do a hand shake deal with Mitch Mcconnell who said it was a mistake for him to do that before. This is a guy who said that he promised multiple times he would do real filibuster reform. He said that merkley and udall were the brave young senators who were completely right and the rest of us were wrong. He caved on effect he had been telling us for the past year. You can look across the cable dial. Youll see rachel maddow, ed schultz, theyre washing their hands of this guy. Harry reid is going to kill the assault weapons ban because he doesnt want to get primaried. I think he should get primaried frankly. It would be great to see him have a real progressive challenger. Caller at this point right now, what i cant believe is the message that i left on his telephone message line last friday or whenever it was was that i hope whoever paid him is more worth it to him than the American People because he definitely was paid by somebody. John why do you think that . Caller because. John doesnt it seem like he made a deal . Doesnt it seem like this is part of a compromise . Caller he was saying things in may of 2012. That were oh, we gotta stop making deals with these well, anyway. You dont want to hear the words i have to describe these people. But when i make the phone call, thats the message that i left. And now that Message Machine is full. John it has been full for weeks because last week on viewpoint, i did a commentary on it and i put harry reids phone number on the screen for people to call him. By the next morning everyone told me it was completely filled up with voice mail. Youre such a scamp. Caller i pressed one to send it to him. Im sure he disregards anything except where the big dollars are. Were just the citizens. Were just the electorate. John deb, thank you for the call. The fact is they work for us. And you know, we already know harry reid is going to kill the assault weapons ban. He couldnt be less enthusiastic about it. He comes from a big gun state. He almost got beaten by a mental patient in the last election. Im sorry. I dont mean to be derogatory to mental issues by comparing them to sharon ingle but it was such a squeaker for him. Hes afraid for his job. Thats why hes not going to run the risk of alien yetting anyone. Alienating anyone. He is willing to put his job above your childrens safety. General mcchrystal is right. Civilians dont need the weapons. Harry reid the senate is a place where 45 senators get to control the other 55. Oh, boy. John if i ever get divorced, i want harry reid to represent my wife. Ill get everything. Well be back after this. Taking your calls at 1800steph12. Go ahead, laugh out loud in your cubicle. Everyone already things youre a left wing lunatic anyway. Its the Stephanie Miller show. Out for us. Going to do the young turks. I think the number one thing that viewers like about the honest. They know that im not bsing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. When the democrats are wrong, they know that im going to be the first one to call them out. They can question whether im right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. He was born to American Royalty but couldnt escape the family curse. Of all the hours in all his days, these are the ones youll never forget. Play that funky music white boy lay down the boogie and play that funky music till you die john good morning. This is the the Stephanie Miller show. Im John Fuglesang filling in for steph all morning long. Taking your calls at 1800steph12. Joined in the l. A. Bureau by Jacki Schechner you just did a whole new york thing. Im taking your calls. Would you like that burr bagel. I got a brother paul taking my calls. John im half southern, half brooklyn. I got every accent in creation. I live with a woman from northern california. Oh, my god john it was bilingual. Mom called us yall and dad called us rat bastards. Were taking your calls. Joined of course by Jacki Schechner. And jim ward and chris lavoie. And stephanie i got some french pronunciation. John you did because youre such an american hater. Steph is home sick. Do my eyes deceive me. Is kenny pick of cleveland on the phone right now . Hey kenny pick. I will offer you some fine northeastern ohio accent styling. Which is not much. Yeah, good morning, everybody. That whole limbaugh shtick about the pms amazon that hes always talking about, hes been doing that and believe it or not, Rush Limbaugh did standup way back in the day. Theres videos out there from the late 80s, early 90s. He knows exactly who the audience hes playing to. I think what everybody should do is join with me in course as he called sandra fluke a slut, we should call limbaugh the hut. So that way with it. Who brought this solo . John im still so astounded did he that. In this century, member are still using the word slut on women as a pejorative. Just because she spoke about contraception being a legitimate womens healthcare issue. If you believe that contraception is a legitimate healthcare issue then were all sluts now and Rush Limbaugh is another guy whos confused slut with skank. Skanks are tragic. Sluts are the chosen people. Caller thanks so much. Ill talk to you soon. Thanks, kenny. John nice to hear from him. We have dana in maryland calling about the chart master . Caller good. How are you . How is everybody doing . John were great now. Caller jacki, you look beautiful. Arent you a sweetheart. Thanks. Caller i just wanted to say again the show was so great. Were all still reeling. You were at sexy liberal d. C. John oh, dana. Im your tea bagger wife. Remember . John you came all the way from maryland to see us. It was so great to meet you guys. John for the folks who dont know, we do the meet and greet tickets. Im sure youve heard steph talk about it. For people who buy the meet and greets off the show, we hang out and horrify the fire codes and hang out and we get to meet everyone and hang out and we hung out for god it must have been a good two hours mixing with the fans. It was a lot of fun. Awesome, isnt it . John great show. Having hal and aisha on the same show. She was hysterical. She is oh, my god, she was hysterical. So chris, i was thinking i like barbara boxer. Oh, as a possible liberal contender for president . I think shes awesome. Okay. Caller i dont know what you guys think. John i think shes great. Caller about paul ryan on meet the press and David Gregory with the softballs again and nobody asked him jobs, jobs, jobs but you know, then hes trying to shove another personhood bill through. First thing he does. And why doesnt he ask him about that . You know. Jobs jobs, jobs, no, no, no. In new mexico, this woman says the fetus can now be a piece of evidence . John yes. Caller after somebodys raped. John where she said if a woman terminates the pregnancy if a woman becomes pregnant during a rape and terminates the pregnancy before the child comes to term, that she could be prosecuted for evidence tampering. Remove the element of the woman being prosecuted but now if she terminates, they can prosecute the rapist for evidence tampering and the doctor can be brought up on charges of evidence tampering in a rape. Caller fatherly rights too. It is insane. John it shows how little respect they have for science. Of course, we know caller i do know. John boehner went on the other day because it was they had the parade or whatever they call it. The prolifes down in d. C. Every year and he made a Public Service announcement roe v. Wade. It is scary this is where we are. John it is. The one question i would like to see these guys ask, ive said it before on the show. I have no problem if youre opposed to abortion for moral reasons or religious reasons even though jesus never mentioned abortion but was clearly against the death penalty, even if i were against it and you want to use the legislative process to protect an unborn, it is a free country. You should take full advantage of it. If you want to ignore them as soon as youre born. Youre a horrible person. You have a right to do that. However, i want to see one of the socalled journalists say to the paul ryans of the world the mitt romneys of the world ask them one question. Once youve achieved your dream america and abortion is outlawed, who deserves longer jailstentions, the women who terminate pregnancies or the doctors who perform them because it went on for a long time before roe v. Wade. Women with money could always terminate pregnancies. Abortion has always been around and it will always be around. This is trying to do what bill clinton said make it safe, legal and rare. I want to hear paul ryan say how much time a woman who terminates a pregnancy deserves in jail. Youll see this Republican Party marginalize out of existence. Caller i wish it would happen because you know what, an abortion is not a trip to disneyland. John its not. Caller it is a horrific and you know what, it is awful. You feel ashamed. Regret. I still regret to this day, did i do the right thing. John mmhmm. Caller it is nobodys business but mine and now im telling the whole world. But thats okay. Everybody listening. Thats very brave of you to do. John it is. Again, no one thank you. There are people who do and cant talk about it. John no one is pro abortion. Well be right back after this break. [ theme ] hello current tv fans. We were trying to come up with reasons why chris lavoie didnt go to the gym this weekend. It got a little dirty. Great. On that note, hi, Jacki Schechner. Good morning. [ laughter ] it is not often i get to taunt you in person. I guess not. Weve got John Fuglesang in the new york bureau because stephanie has food poisoning. She had some of that sun dried sushi. Nothing like reheated sushi. Sun dried mayonnaise. Thats pretty gross. Chicken tartar with sundried mayonnaise. But she hopefully will be back tomorrow. We have John Fuglesang in the new york bureau. Jacki schechner is here with us in this studio which we love. We love having her. Until i taunt you. Exactly. So lets go to the news right now with Jacki Schechner. Good morning, everybody. Following last nights joint interview with president obama politico reports this morning that outgoing secretary of state Hillary Clinton is going to do the rounds in a series of media interviews appearing on all five Major Networks before she leaves office on friday. That includes fox cnn nbc and abc. 60 minutes obviously airs on cbs so shes got that one covered already. In other news, a handful of groups are organizing to try to stop former senator chuck hagel from becoming our next secretary of defense. A new conservative group with anonymous donors called americans for a Strong Defense is running ads urging five democrats to vote against confirming hagel. Another is called use your mandate. It is also new. It also has anonymous donors. It claims to be a liberal gay Rights Groups but buys its ad time through a republican firm. It has no web site and no physical address. It is, however using ads and mailers to call hagel antigay, antiwoman and antiisrael. This is part of a larger story in the New York Times reporting at least five other groups are engaged in trying to block the president s choice. And the increase emergence of anonymous dollars and shady front groups is likely a result of citizens united. That 2010 decision that opened the floodgates to allow interested parties to inject endless outside money into our political campaign. I hate citizens united. Me, too. Npr reporting for the fives time today, google is posting its policies on what information it turns over to the government as part of an effort to win tougher privacy laws and support. The convenientier v. P. Officer David Drummond has put up a frequently asked questions page detailing questions they ask about the most and they need to access the information like a warrant or subpoena. Well be back with more show after the break. Stay with us. Thinking. Ok, so theres wiggle room in the ten commandments, thats what youre saying. You would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. Absolutely. And so would mitt romney. vo shes joy behar. And the best part is that current will let me say anything. What the hell were they thinking . We were skipping stones and letting go over the river and down the road [ female announcer ] at Nature Valley we know nature comes together in amazing ways. Thats why we bring together natural ingredients, like dark chocolate with toasted oats, or sweet golden honey. Perfect combinations of natures delicious ingredients from Nature Valley. I was thinking that i hope this never ends [ female announcer ] Nature Valley granola bars nature at its most delicious. 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And you should get current tv. If you dont because im hosting viewpoint now. The show formerly hosted by governor Eliot Spitzer and the staff that formerly ran Keith Olbermanns excellent show. Theyve run three shows at current. Im nom three. Were every night of the week. Were number three john mock if you want but were having a great time. You are doing a great job too. John weve had great guests. Were getting every week im fighting off congressmen with a stick. We just had john conyers and Loretta Sanchez and journalists like tomasky and Eric Boehlert. The other night i wanted to keep the first half of the show very serious talking with congressmen and talking with journalists then the second half to be more comedic or having all comedian panels with people like Sherrod Small and judy gold. Frank conniff of mystery theatre was hired to write for the show i was supposed to do. That show isnt going to happen. We dont know how much longer current will be there until Al Jazeera America takes over. Were having as much fun as possible until that happens. I lost timewarner cable dropped current which i think was pretty disgusting and sleazy. So i think theyll pick it back up again. Im sure theyll carry Al Jazeera America. It will be a good news network. I have to shift and get a new cable carrier because the people i live with want to watch the show. Do you have options in new york . John im getting directv. Jennifer granholm is still on. The young turks is still on. Quite honestly, i miss this programming. Im switching my cable carrier because i want to be able to keep on enjoying the programming on current that al gore put together for as long as i can. I remember when i was in new york, there was such a monopoly on cable providers, i dont know that we had access to directv or digital system. You pretty much had to go with timewarner and that was it. Good that we now have a choice. Slime warner as stephanie used to call it. John i want to take this chance to give out a call to a. M. 950 our affiliate in minneapolis. I was there to headline the blue state ballooning with congressman Keith Ellison who is a very cool guy. Hes coming on my show this week. I want to thank them for keeping progressive radio alive and well and for all of you guys for listening to the Stephanie Miller show. Yea kermit bow. John jim guess who i have on viewpoint tomorrow to talk about the immigration package . Um, kirk douglas. Wow. John jim what is your favorite congressmans name to pronounce . Charlie rangel. John second favorite. Immigration. That would be raoul grijalva. That would have been such a good bit had he caught on. John it wouldnt be a jim bit if he didnt have the wrong answers the first couple of times. Can we talk about scott brown . John jacki can you explain . Thats the best part. I cant explain. John is he spending too much time in a pickup truck in cold weather . Former senator scott brown. Over the weekend he sent out a series of tweets. John late at night. Like after midnight. Postambien, after midnight on a weekend. What can brown do for you . Exactly. He sent out a series of tweets where he was responding and i guess he said whatever a couple of times then he tried to tweet whatever, it looks like but the word was a nonword which was spelled bqhatever. His hand was like one key off on the keyboard. Which is actually like if you try to recreate it, it is not all that i think it does mean something in albanian. But that became a popular twitter hash tag over the weekend. People had people had all sorts of takes on what it could possibly be. John go on to twitter and search scott brown. Youll find this word you invented. If you want your senate job back, why do you type that and hit send . Jacki, am i right that scott brown deleted it . Which is like rule number one for ways to not draw attention to yourself on twitter is to try to erase your internet history. He got rid of it. Obviously it caught on before then. Chris and i were discussing this morning before we came on the air that you know, obviously at some point, he had staffers in charge of this twitter account. The boston globe was reporting hes taken it back over. It has been evident through a series of tweets that have gone out since he lost his seat where hes talking about very personal things. His activities and what hes gardening and not very, very personal. Hes talking about his own gardening . Things that wouldnt be a staffers responsibility or information that have a staffer would have. It is more personal. So that makes it more obvious that this came from him in the middle of the night. Then of course, people are making excuses perhaps his cat sat on the computer or oh, please. A cat cannot type whatever. What can Anthony Weiner know about the cat excuse . My cat spends a lot of time sitting on my computer because it is warm. Shes never put a hash tag and hit send. Never happened. But its great. If you go on twitter, it is fun to scroll through the stuff people are saying about this fake whatever. I read tweets from emmy. My cat . She sends out kitty pictures. I read tweets from vester von frisch. I dont have an actual twitter account for my cat but i post pictures of my cat which makes me the crazy cat lady. I do that. John i did have a facebook profile for my cat. Did you really . John i sure did. Stroll around new york, too. John he liked the stroller. His surviving cat does not like the stroller. He has some dignity . John no. I had the coolest cat. Yall suck. I drove Cross Country with this cat twice. He liked traveling. He was like a dog. He got his own facebook profile. I put faces with him with charmys hot friends then when he left, i made it a private one to post baby pictures so my conservative family will think im a real human. Thats totes adorbs. John thats hella derp, by the way. You know, i hate all of these trendy idioms but at the end of the day it is what it is. And its all good. Lol. We have people on the phone do we not . Robert in tucson still with us . Robert has left us. John steve in chicago still with us . Steve in chicago is here. Hello, steve. Steve in chicago. Caller hello. Sorry about that. I totally got lost in the show. I just really wanted to say that im a little afraid of a repeat of 2010 because in my opinion, the reason why that happened was we had a series of events ever since obamas first election where the democrats became very disgruntled. They felt that he was caving. He didnt support the things that he threw out there and we promoted. And i think people didnt show up in 2010 so then john thats what stephanie accuses me and jim and chris of. Caller what harry reid just didnt do and been hearing about excuse me, the past few days is how everybody wants harry reid impeached. Everybody is disgruntled again. John well, lets talk about that. Are we more loyal to ideology or party . Caller i personally think it is ideology. John we have to compromise, right . We have to find ways to support the politician who will bring us the most progress while not giving up our ideology for the sake of winning. It is a delicate balance liberals seem to be pretty good at. We can walk and chew gum at the same time. Caller i agree with you 100 . I actually had a problem with how happy clappy this show was a few years ago until i saw the damage that the democratic talk show hosts that want to be really independent and so they spend a lot of time on the negative especially the negative toward the Upper Echelon of the executive branch. And i think that fuels the flames. You know, i dont think what you guys are doing is you know, the republican way of gathering be the wagons in a circle, that kind of a thing. Is it is possible for democrats to do that. Caller not spending as much time on the negative stuff fueling, you know, what is most of the time, just conjecture anyway. John sometimes it is more than conjecture. In the case of harry reid, it is a lot of promises hes been making to the base not the liberals but the democrats in general about the need for filibuster reform, about how he wouldnt do what he did before again. No hand shake agreements with Mitch Mcconnell. The young senators who wanted to have reform were right, he was wrong. He was specific. Then he, of course, voted to have a recess on the first day of the Senate Session last week. So it would last a few more days which i dont understand harry reid, if youre afraid of bullies, last thing you want is more recess. Then he went ahead and he caved anyway. He completely caved anyway. Caller absolutely. John and now a lot of liberals get frustrated when democrats have moderate improvements that they call reform. If theres one caller i think our job now is going to be to try and pick everybody back up again. Because i think that i dont think theres much of a positive spin on this. The only excuse ive heard politicians give is well, what happens if were in the minority . But that doesnt matter because we dont filibuster. It doesnt john democrats filibuster under george bush. We dont do it to the obnoxious degree where we completely shut the country down. I think weve learned a valuable lesson from the tee party. The tea party has taught a lot of liberals that purity tests for the sake of purity tests alone will kill your party. For everyone whos mad at obama for not being more to the left, i understand but look at the side of what the tea party has done in terms of leading this party off a cliff. Getting the Tea Party Candidates in primaries who are unelectable. And i would love to see Dennis Kucinich as president but i know if he got the nomination, he would be flattened. We have to have this compromise. Progress takes time. Caller what you just said to me is exactly what happened in 2010 when we various democratic voters just had a problem with various things. John im going to disagree with you. I dont blame democratic voters i dont blame progressive discontent with the president for 2010. I blame a couple of things. Number one people not showing up to vote. We showed up. We showed up to vote in 2010. A lot of democrats didnt. The ones who criticize the president still came out to vote. You have to keep in mind the historical reality that generally, unless a 911 happens, a new president always loses seats at the first midterms and the g. O. P. Is just more organized because they have their all of a. M. Radio. They have fox news. They have 24 hour propaganda getting people angry and outraged as Eric Boehlert talked about earlier today. Caller i hope youre right john because 2014 is going to be shaky. John steve, thank you for the call. It wont be shaky if we keep shedding lights on the irvs that matter and get progressives and conservatives together and say youve got a relatively conservative democrat and fiscally, you know, thats what makes all of the liberals angry. Lets Work Together to make the country better instead of this Dodgeball Team democracy were choking under now. Dodgeball. John thats all of the preachiness i got in me. Its the Stephanie Miller show. Well be right back after the break. Announcer join the party. 1800steph12. He was born to American Royalty but couldnt escape the family curse. Of all the hours in all his days, these are the ones youll never forget. All that glitters is gold only shooting stars john this is the the Stephanie Miller show. Im John Fuglesang. And that is smashmouth with allstar. It is like a time machine back to 2000. Even earlier than that. That had to be late 90s because i used that in a news package about the hagerstown allstar team. That would be in 9798. Thats how i remembered that. Joan 1998 was 15 years ago. Walking on the sun came out in 97. And now back to the countdown. [ laughter ] a Long Distance dedication to John Fuglesang in our new york studio. John thank you very much. Its going straight out to you. Because for years, i worked on my kasey kasem until i realized it was also mr. Sulo from star trek. Also scooby doo. Kasey kasem was the voice of scooby doo. Ziiks. I feel richer for that information thats why im here. Crap like that gets stuck in my head. John you know who was the voice of the joker on the batman adventures. Mark hamill. John indeed. Mark hamill who i think is on a treadmill right now getting ready for episode seven which is going to be directed by j. J. Abrams. Which is awesome. John pretty interesting. I think the guy directing star trek directs star wars, in the 80s, this would have been heresy. I want to take more calls. We have a call about this new Mexico Abortion bill. I want to remind people. This is house bill 206 introduced by a female republican state rep katherine brown. It would charge a rape victim who ended her pregnancy with a third degree felony for tampering from evidence. Shes now backed off of actually prosecuting the rape victims and just want to prosecute the doctors but it will still if not prosecuting, it will force women to carry their rapists baby to term. I believe maria is calling us from chicago. Caller hi there everybody. John good morning. Caller ive got Chris Jim Jacki and john. Are you kidding me right now . [ laughter ] caller get to watch you on viewpoint and then listen to you this morning. Oh, my heavenly stars. John all you gotta do is buy me a drink. Its not hard to wake up with me. Thanks for mentioning viewpoint. Of course. So yeah, i wanted to talk about the bill which i think is positively ludicrous. There is an inherent flaw in it which interests me is if the purpose if the whole thing behind it is tampering with evidence right. Caller that is completely ridiculous because if there is an aborted fetus wouldnt you be able to extract dna from the fetus . John exactly right. You can. Again, were not proabortion. Were prowomens reproductive freedoms here. Yes, youre actually able to extract dna so you dont need to have the women carry her rapists baby to term and put her on maury to find out if it is the rapists baby. Caller what it is about theyre covering this about evidence tampering is it is about suppressing womens ability for access to healthcare and their ability to it is not an easy one for anyone regardless of the circumstances. It is about suppressing that ability and that right for women. It enrages me, frankly. John maria you win the radio today even though youre doing an interview from inside the supercollider windtunnel. That was me, sorry. John i think she makes a great point. It is not pleasant to talk about. This whole bill is antiscience to the core. It is again another way of forcing women to give up their own liberty which is one of the reasons given by Supreme Court justices holding up roe vs. Wade. It is an important distinction you cant make often enough. When you talk about the difference being pro abortion which i dont think many people are and prochoice which i think everybody who comes down on that side of the debate is. Right. That everybody can make their own decision. John exactly. It is absolutely not an easy decision. I dont know anyone whos come to it lightly. I think it is incredibly emotional for the women involved. And traumatic. And partners involved. There are lingering effects. I think having to go through the entire process and make the decision and then go through with it is something that lingers. I think that you absolutely have to make that distinction. If you dont then youre trivializing what the entire debate is about to begin with. Because i dont think anybody says i would like to have an abortion lets go out on a tuesday and have an abortion. It doesnt happen. I had two this morning. Why not. Hang on, jim. If men could get pregnant, locker room douchebags would be bragging over who has the most. You have to make that distinction. You cant say youre pro abortion and prolife. No. John i said it on the show before. Ill say it again. We dont have an abortion problem in this country. We have an unwanted pregnancy problem. Fix unwanted pregnancies. The Stephanie Miller show will be right back. Right have, about the heavy hand of government. I want to have that conversation. Lets talk about it. Really . Youre going to lay people off because now the government is going to help you fund your healthcare. Really . I want to have those conversations, not to be confrontational, but to understand what the other side is saying, and id like to arm our viewers with the ability to argue with their conservative uncle joe over the dinner table. I must say Stephanie Miller pretending to have intercourse with you has given me a great deal of satisfaction. John its the Stephanie Miller show. Im John Fuglesang. Sending both Day Greetings to lucinda williams. The best Country Singer in the world. Time magazine called her americas greatest songwriter. She turned 60 this weekend. Shes a rock star and a country star. Kevin is in d. C. Hes calling about harry reid. Caller good morning. It was good to see you in d. C. At sexy liberal. Caller the nerdhead loved you guy nerd herd loved you guys. They went into it thank you guys. John youre the guy stephanie was kissing in the audience during the show. Caller i have to be fed intravenously for a few days. I didnt want to alter the tingle of the kiss. John turns out she has lifethreatening mono. But whats your question . [ laughter ] nothing she can do would turn me off. You know that by now. [ laughter ] caller im going to be contrarian just a little bit. Because im off and have lived my life it has served me well. For that reason, the thing with harry reid, i was upset he did that. I was looking back at footage where he said he wasnt going to do it. He made a big deal. Your friends with ed schultz, i dont know if thats a competitor. Stephanie is friends with him. John he has been very good to me. Caller cool. But the thing is youve just detailed that woman that put up that horrible bill concerning abortion but there is a whole horrific plethora of horrific things the republicans want to do. Were already defending from now until 2014, 20 of the 33 senate seats that are up for election. We have to defend 22 if you count the retirement of harkin. John rockefeller of west virginia. Caller god forbid if the shoe is on the other foot take it from me. Yes, you know, in this instant i wan int stand i want instant gratification. Take it from me, a man with my shade, some of the success and the improvements i have seen by being patient have been incredible. John of course. Caller yes, sometimes things take awhile but you cant you know like the Rolling Stones said, you cant always get what you want. Thats real life. John you cant always get what youve been promised by your majority leader for over a year. Would you at least agree going back to the talking filibuster and letting the American People see what theyre paying for when democracy is being obstructed wouldnt hurt the democrats, right . That wouldnt hurt the democrats to bring that back, would it . Caller yes. Anything that we can do, completely getting rid im done. I agree with you john. Youre preaching to the choir. Im emotionally upset about it. Someone came to me and said i said no. Oh, my god its true. But again im a worstcase scenario type of person. When i think of the horrific things and the republicans so ideologically, even though they lost the election and theyre down in the toilet in the ratings, they try to go about their agenda like it never happened. God forbid, i want whatever we can to slow them down. I agree with everything, everyone who is upset. Im upset as well. Im not 100 as upset as everyone. John i appreciate that. Caller if we can do it better later thats fine. It is not a tv show. It may take a little longer to get what we want in real life. John we dont like the word compromise but it is essential and the tea party has shown us if you refuse to compromise, will you marginalize. I thank you for your call. Doesnt it feel like we compromise a lot . John we dont compromise. The democrats in the house and senate. Thats what i mean. Doesnt it feel like we do a lot more compromising than the other side. John i completely agree. While i respect the incremental progress we made, im ready for real reform, not incremental progress. What happens when you stand your ground and you have a majority in the senate and you have a mandate from the American People to make the changes you campaigned on. Where is the harm in pushing a little bit harder . Joan this is the john this is the problem people had with the public option. They couldnt do it because it would require a reconciliation vote. Why not . Joan why not indeed. Then what do they do with the Affordable Care act . They went ahead and used the reconciliation anyway. The thing they said they wanted to avoid they went ahead and did it. If youre going to do it, you could have given us a public option. Our economy would be much stronger. Every cbo estimate has shown while the Affordable Care act will shave over 100 billion off the deficit, it would have been a lot more with the public option. It would be the cost control we need in place. Theres no way youre going to control the skyrocketing costs of Health Insurance without introducing some sort of provision into this Healthcare Exchange that limits costs. John jacki speaks the truth. Ill go one step beyond it. What is sane about making employers pay for their employees healthcare . How is that pro capitalism . All of our allies have single payer. Thats socialism were afraid of . Show me a capitalist ally who doesnt have it . When were doing that, youll see well no longer have a country where the leading cause of bankruptcy is inability to pay healthcare costs. Were going broke over this. If you really were afraid of if youre really afraid of the competition of public option or cheaper canadian drugs, then you aint a capitalist, my friend. Thats the crazy part. They argue they cant compete with the public option and at the same time they were arguing the public option was going to be crap and nobody wanted it. It is one or the other. Really horrible and nobodys going to use it or if would be so unbelievably competitive that Health Companies cant compete with it. Democrats didnt midge it properly and didnt message it properly and members of congress didnt have the right talking points to fight back against the tea party uprisings in august when we had that giant coup out in public because people didnt know what it was and what they were talking about. We didnt get out in front of the public option messaging as strongly as we should have and could have. John the phrase public option. They call it citizens choice, you would have gotten republicans on our side. The naming was complicated. I was a really big part of what we call it and how we call it. You cant call it a government plan. You cant call it government option. John the citizens choice. Saying that a public option would hurt public healthcare is like saying Community College hurts the ivy league. The post office has destroyed u. P. S. And fedex. It doesnt work that way. No. Really good example of that kind of competition. I was going to say well let jim get a word in. Why would we do that . Look at all of the countries who have opted nor the american system of healthcare. Theres uh. Der you know how the hannityless of the world say we have the best Healthcare System in the world. John no ones disputing the quality of our care or our doctors. It is access. It is the access to that care. Thats where we have true inequality in america. Gwen is on the phone from North Carolina about the real republicans. Gwen, are you still with us . Caller i sure am. John good morning. Caller good morning. I dont know if im nervous or just pissed off. I think that someone needs to tell real republicans who care about their party its all right to vote against these people. I mean you have people that are taking votes away from people. After they do this, who whose vote are they going to take next . If they dont stand up against them, theyre part of the problem. John youre exactly right. If theyre trying to get minority votes so theyre a big party in a big tent, i dont know why theyre trying to alienate so many minority voters. Caller theyre not trying to get them. Why should they if they can steal your vote away from you . Joan so white folks will be they keep saying theyre trying to get minority votes so white folks will feel better about still reporting the Republican Party to say were not bigoted. Were trying to get more minorities to come in. They turn and say they just want free stuff. It is how racism is dressed up in 2013. Caller there are a lot of republicans that know this is crap. John yeah. Caller theyre so afraid to stand up against these people. They need to say hey enough is enough. Because until they pull their end of the bargain of democracy until they hold their end we cant do anything. And they need to get out there. They love their country so much. You cant sit back in the chair and talk about it. You gotta get up and move. John amen. Caller if enough of them say hey, this is not right and im not going for it, things will change. John youre right. Youre exactly right. Thank you very much for the call gwen. Very good points. By the way, getting a lot of tweets. We do read your tweets on the air. Everyone saying we should go for dish instead of directv if you want to get current. So theres that. Either one is fine. John theyre both quality providers. As long as youre getting current tv. We have a few more months of great programming. Do we have time for another call . Lets talk to donna in chicago on the Immigration Reform introduced today by a bipartisan crew of eight white male senators. What do you make of it . Caller hello. John hi. Caller yes. Thank you. What i want to digress a little bit because i have some reservations about this supposed immigration bill. John please. Okay. Because i think we need to look at all of the provisions because i question if theyre going to increase the availability by companies of hb1 visas for workers because some of these companies are notorious for hiring and bringing over Technology Workers. Because they work for a lot cheaper than the u. S. Technology workers. Because i read articles. There really is not a shortage of Technology Workers in the u. S. But there is a shortage of u. S. Technology workers who are willing to work for less. Be. Okay. Caller so i think we need to look at this bill carefully because there may be that kind of provision in there. John thats a very good point. Thank you for the call. I dont think youre ever going to see real Immigration Reform as long as its costeffective for employers to exploit undocumented workers. Yeah. I totally agree. John reverend jim wallace says theres two signs on the border. One says keep out and the other says help wanted. You would be paying 50 for a salad if you got rid of the immigrations. You keep it secret. You start lock up employers for hiring undocumented workers and youll see it stopped. I dont know if that will happen beforehand. Are you guys encouraged by the bill presented today . It is not a bill. Outline of proposals. John it might become a bill. It is hard to get too excited about Something Like that. Well see what happens. Hypothetically excited. John do we have a second to play the john mccain bite . Number eight. John mccain went on a sunday morning talk show to say this. We cant go on forever with 11 Million People living in this country in the shadows in an illegal status. John he would know because he lives in a state where like many other southwestern states, undocumented workers being exploited props up the whole economy. Absolutely. I used to live there. I lived in arizona for 13 years. John youre so arizona. I can see that. Senator dick durbin had ideas on the plan that might become a plan that might become a concept. Were committed to a comprehensive approach to finally in this country get an Immigration Law we can live with. John we dont know if this will lead to real reform or not. It gives republicans and democrats something new to fight about on the airwaves for the next week. It is an opening to a conversation. It is interesting to me that we cant discount the fact the only reason why republicans are coming to the table is because they lost the hispanic vote in the last election. John youre right. You cant become president without 670 of the without 60 of the latino vote. Who was the president who gave amnesty to all undocumented worker in the country . Oh yeah, ronald reagan. That would be reagan. What was i smoking . John look at barack obama. Heres the guy who sent National Guard troops to the border and had the most deportations of any president but he also supported the dream act. Thats how latino americans knew this guy was on our side even though he was enforcing the laws a lot more than republicans ever did and thats why he won. Well be back for the final minutes of the Stephanie Miller show. Announcer finally, talk radio you can dance to. Its the Stephanie Miller show. Party or the other. When the democrats are wrong, they know that im going to be the first one to call them out. They can question whether im right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. He was born to American Royalty but couldnt escape the family curse. Of all the hours in all his days, these are the ones youll never forget. Stephanie miller. Shes got the power bringing back the early 90s. John whats wrong with ive got the power. Snap john this song was used in the fisher king. Wow. Do you want to feel really old . Who doesnt. The challenger disaster happened 27 years ago today. John indeed. As a kid watching it where were you . I was at youthful studios in the break room. We were home on a snow day in hampton, virginia. So we watched it on tv at home. It broke into my sisters soap operas and she was upset. John i was in school and there was a tv in the common area where the kids could watch. It is still very recent to me. When i was a kid i got really into nasa because i got really into the right stuff. I read tom wolfes book. I was really involved in the shuttle movement as a kid. I was a total astronaut freak. It was so devastating. And largely forgotten really in the culture along with the columbia disaster as well. People forget the first two shuttles were both tragically destroyed. Thats right. I remember apollo one. That was before my time. John apollo with grisham the second american in space. Part of the problem was since his problem with the hatch on the mercury, they made it very difficult to open the hatch on the apollo capsule. They didnt have a minute. So that was one of the major changes they made. Good morning to discuss on nasa tragedies. Good morning, everybody i would like to bring up something a little positive. Do you remember back in 2009 when president obama was first sworn in and we heard about the secret g. O. P. Strategy session in the caucus room . D. C. Restaurant and all of the big republicans decanter, demint fisherprice guy came. They plotted how they would sabotage the president s new agenda. This year, everyone was watching so the gang that couldnt smear straight has not been able to schedule a new meeting. So now some of the top d. C. Restaurants are pitching the republicans to have this years all you can obstruct dinner. Some of the restaurant pictures . Sure. John well republicans, the d. C. s t. G. I. Fridays, for a limited time, theyre changing the name to thank god its fridays and we mean the one nation under god fridays. Come to the sizzler republicans and try to the new 32 ounce porterhouse steak. The slab of beef so manly it hates women as much as do you. If the g. O. P. Agrees to meet at the d. C. Dennys, every time a senior orders the grand slam breakfast, paul ryan gets to deny them medicare. The jalapeno poppers are so undeliciously documented, your digestive system will selfdeport. For all of you southern conservatives, patriots defending the Confederate Flag, quitting america to start your own country the washington, d. C. Plantation is willing to offer Table Service by actual plantation slaves. Dont worry republicans. Theyre happy slaves like the ones you like in gone with the wind. Make sure you bring your appetite unchained. New chili neoconcarne. Republicans will like it because theres no exit strategy. Finally, chickfila. Really wants your business, republicans. They plan to appeal to you simply by saying hey homophobes, welcome home there you go, republicans. Try to obstruct the cause of justice. Nicely done [ applause ] john thank you so much. It has been a great pleasure. Enjoy filling in for you guys. What do you think will be the big new story of the week as it unfoldeds. Will it be immigration or do you think it will be the ongoing budget battle . Budget. Fling. The immigration thing is a sketch of an idea. John it is positive. Are you at all encouraged by the fact it is republicans and democrats coming together . It may be too friendly. That may be the problem. There may not be enough of a news story and the fact that were cooperating. John any time i see marco rubio and Chuck Schumer working in tandem together, admittedly, this is john mccain and Lindsey Graham who republicans dont think are republican enough and they try to act more evil than they are to be popular. I still think look, theyre calling it a tough but fair path to citizenship. You know it will hopefully bring the dream act into reality. Even more so and stop punishing children who were brought here as children. I think that i dont know, im hopeful even if the republicans are doing it for purely selfish reasons, a lot of people who want to be part of the American Dream and came to the country to pay into our system can start paying into our system and paying taxes and being part of a guest worker program. I hope we can get down to that. The president s giving a speech tomorrow in vegas or remarks tomorrow on immigration. That will at least carry it to the next couple of news cycles. Well see what happens from there. John i would like to see something positive come of it. Coming up this week on viewpoint, weve got a lot of great stuff. Please watch me on current if you still have the pleasure at 8 00 p. M. You are allowed to dvr us as well. Were having political comedian panels on every show. I think we have Keith Ellison coming on to the show this week. One of his favorite songs is the power by snap. Really . How do you know these things . He was on with it and i played it coming out of a break. He said this is one of my favorite songs. John brilliant. Well have raul