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Lisa long is determined not to be one of them. Hey mom, im cleaning this place and i got one more to clean and ill have enough money to come home, ill have the rent. Oh no problem then babe, i love you. I love you too. Ok bye. [ theme ] peter good morning and welcome to current tv. Im peter ogborn filling in for bill today tuesday march 5 2013. What a great big show we have coming up. Despite their better judgment, theyre letting me helm the ship today. Igor volsky will be here from think Progress Plus cindy boren to talk sports from the Washington Post. The lee brothers. From buzzfeed, john stanton and art historian roger gasman. We have lots of stuff to talk about. One of the things well be talking about today is, believe it or not the president ial race of 2016 is already underway. We saw joe biden speaking. We saw jeb bush giving an interview where he left the door open to run for president in 2016. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton very quietly staying out of the limelight, perhaps plotting her ascension as democratic nominee in 2016. Ya know, i dont know if america is ready for jeb bush versus Hillary Clinton. Bush versus clinton i just dont know if we can handle it. Well talk about all of that plus well start the show talking about horse meat. Its widespread throughout europe. People are eating it whether they know it or not. Would you eat it here in america . Personally i say why the hell not. If youre going to eat red meat and pork, why not. All of that and more on current tv coming up. Billy zane stars in barabbas. Coming in march to reelz. To find reelz in your area, go to reelz. Com save them. Woolite everyday cleans your jeans and wont torture your tanks. Woolite washed clothes look like new, longer. You know who is coming on to me now . You know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials . Those types are coming on to me all the time now. vo she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. Ok, so theres wiggle room in the ten commandments, thats what youre saying. You would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. Absolutely. And so would mitt romney. vo shes joy behar. And the best part is that current will let me say anything. What the hell were they thinking . Announcer broadcasting across the nation on your radio and on current tv, this is the bill press show. Peter good morning happy tuesday. Welcome to the bill press show. It is the full court press, live on your radio and on current tv. Hi there. Im not bill press. Im peter ogborn sitting in for bill press shod today. Thank you for being there. I appreciate it. Six minutes after the top of the hour. Wherever you are, you can reach us at 186655press. We are take your calls on any topic at any time all throughout the show. Feel free to drop us a line. Were also tweeting throughout the show at bp show. Normally you see me reading your twitter comments. Im still manning the twitter machine over here. Feel free to drop us a line at bpshow and at our web site, billpressshow. Com. Feel like joining the chat room, you can do that at current. Com billpress. People already in the chat room talking about our conversation about horse meat. Were talking about horse meat later on in the show. Would you eat it and why the hell not . Im peter ogborn sitting in. Running the board is mr. Dan henning. Thank you for being there. Of course. Peter screening your calls today is phil backert. On the ones and twos is cyprian bowlding. Guys i appreciate you all being here. Dan, are you ready for the snowstorm thats coming . Im so excited. We have been gypped of a winter here in our nations capital. Were about to get slammed anywhere from three to eight to 12 inches. A couple of things about the snow. So were going to be hit with a big snowstorm here in washington, d. C. Couple of things. Number one im not going to call it the snow quester. Thats what everyone is calling it. Peter everyones not calling it that. Im not calling it that. Well have to give cindy boren flak for that. I think the Washington Post is credited with starting it. Peter im not going to call it that. Then theres the weather channel. This is saturn. We had nemo in new york and this is saturn. Lie call it that either. Im just going to call it the storm thats coming. We managed to make it for so long. I dont think theres any issue. Its march. It should not be snowing a foot in march. Absolutely it should be. Winter is not over yet my friend. Peter winter hits shot. It missed. I love snow. I like getting snow. Dont like getting it in march. Winter is not over. The vernal equinox is a couple of weeks ago. Peter i know very well when it is. This is b. S. This is the transition period. I got no problem with it. Move back to charleston. We dont need your kind here. Peter it is not a matter of like how much i hate the snow. Again, i like the snow. But snow is christmasy, january february thing. It is a march thing. Your kids have to be excited though. Theyre about to have no school. We didnt have any real snow last year. It has been two years. Peter we didnt have nothing so far in the winter. It has been since snowmageddon. Boy, theres something i havent thought about for a long time. I remember the piles of snow. It will be a mini snowmageddon. Heres whats going to happen. I walked outside today. It is not that cold out. It is not that cold outside today. It is going to have to get really cold for it to be a major snow event. Whats going to happen is there will be some snow. Your meteorological degree. Peter i dont have any doppler. I went outside, i licked my finger and stuck it in the air. This is whats going to happen. Well get some snow but were also going to get some of the sludgy, nasty garbage dirt snow that will fall and make a mess of things. Well get a couple of inches. Were going to get like six inches of snow. Some people well get a foot. Were not going to get a foot. We might not here in d. C. But the suburbs might. You might get a foot. You could get eight inches easily. Peter i think were going to get a bunch of snowlike rain thats just going to be a little mix of snow and it is not that cold out. Meteorologist peter over here. Peter lets see how it goes. Well hold it to you. Weve got it on tape. Peter i know what im talking about. I work in radio so im qualified to say whatever i want to say. It would be the law. What a show weve got coming up today. Our good friend igor volsky is coming in, managing editor from the think progress. Plus weve got lots of sports to talk about from cindy boren from the Washington Post. Dan, you mention charleston. Thats my hometown. Well be talking to two cookbook authors, the lee brothers who youve seen on the cooking shows. Well talk to them about that. And buzzfeeds Washington Bureau chief john stanton plus art historian roger gaston is the producer of an exciting documentary, cool disco dan. If you dont know who disco dan is, well let you know. Im saying it is not me. Cool disco dan. No. No ones ever called you cool disco dan. No one has ever called you cool, i hear cyprian pointing out. My 8yearold cousin has. We have all of that stuff coming up and a great show today. But first this is the full court press. Heres cool disco dan. Joe flacco signed his contract yesterday. He had quite the postcontract signing meal. After putting pen to paper on the 120 million deal, the Baltimore Ravens quarterback went to mcdonalds with a 29 million signing bonus in his pocket, espn reports he ordered a 10 piece chicken mcnuggets fries and an unsweetened ice tea for 6. 99. Hes now the highest paid player by average annual value in nfl history. I dont know how i feel about that. I mean first of all its mcdonalds. I dont think of elite athletes going to mcdonalds for lunch. Hes regular joe. Hes got this giant new contract. Go celebrate for crying out loud. 6. 99 chicken mcnuggets. Horse meat. If youve eaten at mcdonalds, youve probably eaten horse meat. The rock band train is pulling out of its headlining gig rock band might be a little generous. The pop music band that occasionally place rockin tunes known as train, they pulled out of their headlining gig at the upcoming Boy Scouts National jamboree because of the boy scouts antigay policies. Abc news reporting the ban did not know about the organizations antigay stance when it agreed and signed the contracts to play the show but they say they do not support any policy that questions the equality of any american citizen. They made it clear they have no problem breaching this contract. Good for them. Im not a huge fan of their music but good for them. Forbes is out with its annual list of the richest people. Carlos slim the best name. Of any millionaire ever. Fourth year in a row hes worth 73 billion. Bill gates still number two worth 67 billion followed by the spanish clothing magonate ortega. There were a record 426,000 billionaires tallied in the world. Thats 16 more than last year. I, for the rest of the show would like to be known as carlos slim. Thats such a tight name. I love that. You got it. Peter thank you mr. Henning. Enlightening as always. So no doubt, by now, if youve been following the news, weve talked about it here. Youve seen it on your broadcast, there is an issue going on mostly in europe where unsuspecting diners are chowing down on horse meat. It started with burger king. There were some inspectors that said some of the beef patties at burger king contain traces of horse meat. That sort of launched a nationwide probe of what exactly european diners were eating. It turns out theyre eating a lot of horse. The burger king burgers ikea said they had it in their meatballs. There were some sausages being sold in ikea that had horse meat in them. There have been a couple of other cases again most of these have been in europe. These havent been in america. They havent been anywhere that you drive through and pick up your food. But there is horse meat being eaten in the world. Eating horse meat, knowingly eating horse meat is not something new. Theyve been doing this in europe for quite some time. In fact, bill press has says many times when he went to school in europe, they used to have little shops that would have like a wooden horses head outside. You know that was the horse butchery. You would go there to get your horse steaks or horse stew meat or whatever. I personally have never eaten horse. Ive eaten a lot of weird things. I grew up in the American South so ive eaten raccoon im surprised you have not eaten horse. It is not from lack of trying you cant buy horse meat for consumption in america. You cant buy it. I would and in fact, im actively searching to find horse meat because there are rules that will let you buy horse meat thats been imported to feed to zoo animals lions tigers and things like that. They eat horse meat. The cute, cuddly animals you see at the zoo theyre all eating a diet of horse. But heres my big thing. Why dont we eat horse . What is the reasoning that we dont eat horse . I did a Little Research on this because again in france, belgium and sweden, they eat horse all the time. In fact, it is more popular than lamb. We eat lamb in this country. They eat more horse than lamb. Horse meat is lower in total fat, saturated fat and cholesterol than sirloin steak or pork. You have no risk of mad cow disease. And twice as much iron as beef. More than twice as much vitamin b12 and five times as much heart healthy omega3 fatty acids. It is not healthy because it is red meat. But lean red meat in moderation, nothing wrong with it. I dont eat nearly as much red meat as i used to but if youre a person that eats red meat or pork or chicken for that matter, honestly why wouldnt you eat horse . I dont understand the great big argument as to why we wont eat horse. What is it . Is it because theyre smart . Is it because theyre pretty . I seriously dont understand it. If youre a person that is of the mindset that youll never eat horse. Give me a call at 186655press and let me know why. 186655press. Already got a lot of comments on this from the chat room. Barbara in d. C. Says no i think consumers deserve to know what theyre consuming period. I get to choose whether or not i eat horse meat. If youre going to go out and buy beef patties and beef is an expensive type of meat, if youre going to pay beef prices and you get horse then yeah, from a consumer side of things yes, i can understand why you would be a little pissed. But who cares if youre eating horse . Who cares if youre eating horse. Also in the chat room, zotti says i would not eat horse meat knowingly. I dont eat veal. If you dont eat veal, then youre not going to eat horse meat. If you eat regular beef and not veal why wouldnt you eat horse . I dont understand it. I want to hear from you. 186655press. Lots of comments on in the chat room. Lots of comments on twitter at bpshow. Give us a call. Let me know at 186655press. Eat more horse. Im peter ogborn sitting in for bill press. Be right back. Announcer this is the full court press. The bill press show, live on your radio and on current tv. Real, gripping, current. Documentaries. For true stories. With Award Winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines. Real, gripping, current. Documentaries. On current tv. Alright, in 15 minutes were going to do the young turks. I think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. They know that im not bsing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. When the democrats are wrong, they know that im going to be the first one to call them out. They can question whether im right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. Announcer this is the bill press show. Live on your radio and current tv. Yes, it is. The bill press show. The full court press. Im peter ogborn sitting in for bill today. Lots of comments already on whether or not you would eat horse meat and should we eat horse meat in this country. On twitter. At bpshow. You can find us at bpshow. Gray says it is cruel to slaughter horses. Theyre companion animals like dogs and cats. Theres no business for it, no, no no, no. Thank you for your comment grace. Linda in los angeles calling us. Good morning. Caller well, hi. Peter all the way out in los angeles. Are you a thinker or a drinker . Caller im a thinker. Peter all right whats up babe . Caller i started out 15 years rescuing horses frommer the stock yards. So the level of cruelty was off the grass. Most of these animals have been somebodys pet somebodys riding horse. A lot of them were animals that they were told would get a good home. The traders would say oh, well, weve got a great home for your horse. Going to oregon, he will be on pasture and of course he would go right into peter linda you bring up a very good point. I want to stop for a moment because i couldnt agree with you more. The conditions that some of our animals live in today are abhorrent. If you follow me and what i do and you can follow me on twitter at peter ogborn, aside from doing this, i write about food. I contribute to a couple of the food sites. Ive written before about the state of how our animals are raised in this country. I think that its sad its sick its pathetic and even though i eat less meat than i used to, im very careful about where i get my meat from. Because it is it is sick what we do to a lot of animals in this country. So if we want to eat horse, we should regulate it and do it the right way and make sure that they have, you know, Better Living conditions. Well, heres the thing. Horses arent raised for meat. And im not going to defend the cattle industry but you know, american addiction to hamburgers isnt going to change any time soon. But we can help horses. We can stop them from being treated cruelly on their way to slaughter. Peter i agree with you on that point. I absolutely agree with you. We can still eat them. You say horses arent raised for meat. Thats not exactly true. They are raised for meat in other countries. Lets go to chad in salt lake city. Welcome to the bill press show. Caller thanks for having me. Peter thanks for calling in. Whats up . I have no problem eating horse. Im sure ive eaten it many times. I know it is in a lot of foods. This is horse country northern utah southern idaho. Its a great animal. I eat a lot of seafood. Everybody complains about eating tuna swordfish what not. But horse is better for you. Just like buffalo. Peter good point. I think we have time for matt in houston, texas. You have 30 seconds. Caller yeah, im not going to get into the cruelty part of it or anything because you know, i do understand it is a custom in other countries and people eat all kinds of crazy stuff. Peter sure. Caller i had a hunting friend a few years back. He used to get me to try everything. He tried horse. Probably because theyre found dead on the side of the road. I dont know where he was living. He could always find a dead horse. The way i see it is horses are transportation. Horses were bred for other things a long time ago. Peter all right, but a lot of people find them tasty. I think if you want to eat horse, why the hell not. Igor volsky is coming up next. Announcer this is the bill press show. To the fire. Are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night . Political . A lot of my work happens by doing the things that i am given to doing anyway. Staying in tough with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. Not only does senator rubio just care about rich people but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. But we do care about them, right . Vo the war room tonight at 6 eastern announcer chatting with you live at current. Com billpress. This is the bill press show live on your radio and current tv. Peter who is this . Lil wayne . The next tupac. He called himself the next tupac peter it is lil wayne. He called himself the next tupac and marco rubio said theres only one lil wayne. 33 minute past the hour. Full court press. Peter ogborn sitting in for bill press today. Hes here, our good friend. It is Tuesday Morning were now joined by managing editor, congrats thank you, thank you. Peter big news. You guys made it happen. Igor volsky here every Tuesday Morning bright and early. [ applause ] from the studio audience. They love me. I want to start out with this clip on Jimmy Kimmel Live last night because i know it sounds like a weird segue. I was sleeping because i had to get here so i didnt see it. We had our overnight guys pull the audio. Big staff here. Wow. You guys have grown too. Totally. I want to let you hear this because this is how American People view the sequester. What do you think about president obamas decision to pardon the sequester and send it to portugal . I think it is a good idea. Obama makes really good decisions and im with him 100 . Im so grateful because portugal should be protected at all costs. They have a constitutional right and it should be protected. And thats what our president is for. I have no idea about the timing of this event. It just appalls me it has to go to portugal and not stay right here where we need the jobs. Peter that is so perfect i think, because i really truly theres been so much talk about sequester and yet i dont really think that people understand what it is. I mean really. I think people know it is not a good thing and people wont be working as much. When you really get down into it, i dont think the American People understand what the sequester is. You guys at think progress did a great thing. Thinkprogress. Org. The 32 dumbest and most devastating sequester cuts. It proves that think is the sequester is a big deal and some services are going to be lost because of it. Youre right. It is a real Big Communications challenge. Weve been righting about it for months since 2011 when it was part of the budget control act. Nobody cared. You would put a post up and nobody would read it. It is called a sequester. It is a confusing name. We tried to call it looming budget cuts. People really didnt care. This post, after it finally kicked in, the 32 dumbest and devastating sequester cuts, made a dent because the list of these cuts and the problem is you hear republicans say it is just 2 . It is across the board. 2 cuts. With little discretion. Of what gets cut. What doesnt get cut. So you go after some programs that people really, really need. That there was bipartisan support for. For instance, fema. 928 million out of fema. This is after Congress Passed the sandy aid package. It is unclear whether the sandy aid relief will be targeted or not. But youre cutting fema. Youre cutting their preparedness. Youre taking money out of a program that helps the First Responders after 911 deal with the medical issues they have. That program is being cut. Youre going after education. Things like disability research, the department of education special Education Program federal student aid Student Financial assistance. You go down the list. You find 79 million cut from Embassy Security and these are all the republicans were complaining about benghazi. So it doesnt make a tremendous amount of sense because look, yeah, theres waste in the government. Theres inefficiency in the government. There is a way to do to do cuts in a smart way so you cut the programs that dont work. And theres a way as the president said, to make cuts that are just dumb. And these are the cuts that, you know, real people are going to feel some pain. Peter it was a real sort of theory unleashed fury unleashed on the Republican Party after the sandy aid vote was pushed back the first time. Chris christie went nuclear. And now because of this, thats sort of on the table. Youve got the fema as a country, i think weve turned the country on fema. Were pro fema. There was a time we were saying fema plight not be so necessary. But after katrina and sandy and countless other disasters. Youre in a situation where Global Climate change will be exacerbating the problems. If youre taking money out of fema. You go down the list. We have a whole category here. Disaster and emergency. It is fema. Its emergency food shelter. It is agricultural Disaster Relief. It is Hazardous Substance superfund, the e. P. A. Superfund cleanup. Look, you know, these things are unpredictable. You never know when disaster is going to hit. If youre unprepared for it, the damage is so much greater. You end up paying for it in the long run and in lives and money and rebuilding. Peter what i think is so sick in all of this is there are so many cuts that you guys have listed again at thinkprogress. Org that are as you mentioned projects and issues that are near and dear to republicans hearts. You mentioned the 79 million cut from Embassy Security. 232 million from the federal aviation administration. 512 million cut from customs and borders protection. Were still fighting and in fact maybe now more than any time in the last four years fighting over immigration. Were cutting half a billion dollars from border protection. Border security. It is what they say we need to even Start Talking about Immigration Reform. Border security first. Everything else after. Here theyre cutting it. Look, theyre now going to try to go back in and youre going to have the next big fight obviously, continuing resolution when the funding for this government runs out at the end of this month. And what theyre proposing is to give the Defense Department some discretion in moving funds to cover some of these losses. The problem is thats only for the Defense Department. For everybody else, theyre lowering the spending targets all the while complaining that the president hasnt done any real spending cuts. This is the third or fourth cr, the third or fourth continuing resolution where theyve taken the caps, the budget caps from last year and said were going to lower it. So youre funding less. Thats where your cuts come from. You hear the president say 2 trillion in deficit reduction partly because of the reductions in cr and theyre doing it again. Except for the Defense Department which is going to get more funding. Peter i think its sickening this is how we do business in this country now. It is a disaster. Peter it is just kind of how we sort of limp along from governmental crisis to governmental crisis. And so i i know a lot of other people, i was sort of expecting something to happen with the sequester. We just ran right into it. So weve got this continuing resolution as to whether or not we can continue to do business as a government and once again were going to have to wait for some lastminute rescue swoop in from somebody to fix it. I cant believe were still there. Sadly, we are. Moving on from that, it will make your head hurt. Yeah. Peter ashley judd oh, boy. Peter rumors have been flying around for awhile shes going to be running for senate in kentucky. And the Opposition Research has already come out. Theyve been after her yes. Goodness. From going to her grandmother to watching some of her movies. To look at what she said about religion and fracking and feminism and trying to make a big stink out of that. It just lets you know these guys are worried. Mcconnell has what . A 40 Approval Rating in kentucky right now. And so you know, if you dont start early, define her early as we know in politics, define them early, you know, it may be a problem for him. Hes the minority leader. Peter the daily caller has been leading the fight on against ashley jut and they put against ashley judd. They talked about her history of what they call bizarre statements. Yesterday, their latest was ashley jut has breasts and shes not afraid to use them. She apparently has shown her breasts in movies before. Because shes an actress and thats her job. Alyssa rosenberg has this great line. It may come as a surprise to the daily caller but actresses dont generally take off their clothes on screen as an expression of some sort of groovy 70s lifestyle or to have sex with people who are not their sex or partners. Getting asked to take off some or all of your clothes by actors is a job requirement and something that until recently tended to be asked of women more frequently than men. Peter yes absolutely. Such a smart take. It is like one of the nudity scenes that she did nude scenes she did, she was portraying Marilyn Monroe who very famously got naked for playboy. It is one of the most famous things she ever did. So it is kind of tough to play marilyn monday row and not have that in there. You know im a heterosexual male. It was cool she got naked and great but it is not like this has any effect whatsoever on how she would lead. If anybody thinks that that has anything to do with your ability to lead your ability to lead has anything to do with the amount of clothes youre wearing, just ask scott brown. Ask scott brown. He lost so maybe thats not a good barometer. But the conversation surrounding here is telling. A daily caller publishes this monday morning under their entertainment section to hint that theyre not being serious. This is all in good fun. Alyssa writes her response, publishes it a couple of hours later. The daily caller takes great offense, they call it the dumbest piece theyve ever read. Why are we taking it so seriously. They were just kidding about her being naked all the time. And acquire this compilation of all responses and really, you know almost goes as far as to say why is alyssa kind of nagging about this and complaining about this. Its really nothing. It just kind of shines a spotlight on how it is still kind of okay to treat women in this way. To write as the daily caller did but will judd be the first potential senator who has literally nothing left to show us. Peter oh, come on. Thats so silly. It is still a problem. The response to this, i think really has been disappointing. Peter 45 minutes past the hour. It is full court press. Peter ogborn sitting in for bill today along with think progresss managing editor, igor volsky in studio with us. Taking your calls at 186655press. Quick break. Well be right back. Announcer this is the bill press show. To reelz. Com billy zane stars in barabbas. Coming in march to reelz. To find reelz in your area, go to reelz. Com [ male announcer ] to many men, shaving can be a sensitive issue. But take comfort. 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Announcer heard around the country and seen on current tv this is the bill press show. Peter it is the bill press show. Peter ogborn sitting in for bill press today. You can follow us on bpshow. Joined by think progresss managing editor, igor volsky as he does every tuesday at this time igor, thanks for being here. I just mentioned twitter where were at bp show. We were talking about ashley judd and the fact that the daily caller think shes not qualified to lead because she showed her boobs on showed us all she has. Peter karen says so ashley judd exposed her breasts in movie roles shell fit right in with the boobs in congress. We both looked up during the break and saw jeb bush is making the rounds this morning. Hes been making some news here recently. Hes out with a new book. His blueprint to immigration and heres whats very strange. Now for many months now hes been out there writing opeds, editorials on the cable shows and calling for a more moderate position from the Republican Party. Youll remember he famously said that we need more revenue when we talk about deficit reduction. Maybe not raising taxes. Maybe well close some loopholes. Not terribly radical but certainly a bit to the right of what you hear from g. O. P. House leadership. And on immigration he said lets all come together. Lets find a comprehensive solution that includes a path to citizenship. He said that as recently as january 24th in the wall street journal. He told charlie rose that last year. Well, hes out with this book today and excerpts came out yesterday where this position of lets give folks a pathway to citizenship has been dialed back a bit. And he wrote fairly clearly that if you came into this country illegally, we shouldnt reward you with citizenship. That that would kind of really undermine the integrity of all of our laws and if you want citizenship, you need to go back to your country you need to emigrate back and get back in line. It is a fairly silly idea, partly because you have 11 million undocumented immigrants. 2 3 of whom have been in this country for more than ten years. Youre talking about if the people want to be full citizens, have all of the rights and not second class citizens, theyre going to have to leave their communities, leave their economies, leave their families, go back. It is going to take years. The current process if you give folks a pathway is about 13 years. Were talking about extending that even further. Peter did he sort of have this moderate position because he was serving in florida and now that he wants to take it he said yesterday on the today show, hes leaving the door open for a run in 2016. Clearly leaving the door open. Get the book sales up and up and up. He wanted to be the g. O. P. s guy on immigration. Marco rubio and his gang of eight got ahead of them. They put out this road map. It looks like he had this book already in the bag. It was going to printers. So he kind of awkwardly found himself to the right of this party when he was trying to lead the way. So maybe it is just so strange because that editorial in the wall street journal, he wrote with the coauthor of his book. They called for a path to citizenship and then a month later, i dont know what hes saying here. He has some kind of explanation for it apparently. And the funny part is so hes moved to the right. No pathway. At the same time, hes criticizing mitt romney for being too conservative and to the right on immigration. And alienating hispanic voters. I dont know if the bipartisan consensus is now a path to citizenship and your goal with this plan as a republican is to appeal to hispanics. I dont know how you do that with a position that says go back and then come back. Thats bizarre. It is so perfectly beautifully screwed up that he had this book in the works and then in the aftermath of the election of 2012, it was kind of like every other republican goes oh, crap. Were going to have to evolve look at this. Peter igor, good stuff as always. If you want more of that great analysis and much more, thinkprogress. Org. We do a lot of our show prep from that site. Igor, thank you for coming in. Petering a burn sitting in for bill press. Well be right back and read some of your emails. Announcer radio meets television. The bill press show now on current tv. Save them. Woolite everyday cleans your jeans and wont torture your tanks. Woolite washed clothes look like new, longer. vo she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. Ok, so theres wiggle room in the ten commandments, thats what youre saying. vo shes joy behar. Current will let me say anything. Announcer taking your emails on any topic at any time, this is the bill press show. Live on your radio and current tv. Peter yes, indeed. It is full court press. The bill press show. Im peter ogborn sitting in for bill press today. Taking your emails on any topic at any time at billpressshow. Com. Robert talking about the eating horse meat says i find the notion of eating horse meat repulsive but thats not the issue from my observations. Unawareness of geneticallymodified foods. We might soon find worms and larva palatable. The we eat should be treated better. Bob says by the way pete, where is your charleston accent . I can still turn it on here and there if i need to. Gloria says why would anyone want to play football against the monsters who would shorten her life . Talking about the story we did yesterday about a woman who was trying out to be a kicker in the nfl. I agree i dont think it is okay for a woman to get hit by a fullgrown nfl player. Thats a man. Well talk about that with cindy boren from the Washington Post next. [ theme ] peter good mornings. Yes, indeed, it is the full court press. The bill press show. I know, i might look like bill press but im not bill press. Im a peter ogborn sitting in for bill this morning. Thank you all for being there on the radio an on tv. Got a great big rest of the show planned. Talking sports at the top of the hour here from the Washington Post. Well be talking to cookbook authors the lee brothers who youve seen on the food network and on the cooking network. Plus in the next hour, well be talking to buzzfeeds Washington Bureau chief john stanton. Weve got a lot of stuff coming up. Big news out of the vatican the Sistine Chapel has closed down because the papal conclave is underway. We will be selecting a new pope very soon. Keep an eye out your window for the white smoke and black smoke depending on which way that goes. Here on current tv, the full court press, i guarantee you im giving. 100 jebfree zone here during the show. 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You know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials . Those types are coming on to me all the time now. vo she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. Ok, so theres wiggle room in the ten commandments, thats what youre saying. You would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. Absolutely. And so would mitt romney. vo shes joy behar. And the best part is that current will let me say anything. What the hell were they thinking . Announcer broadcasting across the nation on your radio and on current tv, this is the bill press show. Peter it is the bill press show. Peter ogborn sitting in for bill press today. The full court press live on your radio and on current tv. Thank you so much for being there. I appreciate it. Wherever are you. Got a lot of fun coming up. With us as always is dan henning running the board. How are you sir . Good morning. Great. Peter screening the calls is phil backert. Longtime Baltimore Orioles and Baltimore Ravens fan, phil backert. And on the video operations is cyprian bowlding. I appreciate you being there. Joining me for the first half of this hour is Washington Post early lead blogger and sports social media editor, cindy boren. Youve seen her in studio before. Are you ready for the snow . Im so ready. Peter are you . No, im not. Im in denial. I dont think there will be anything then about noon tomorrow, i anticipate being a panicker. Peter i dont know if you knew this about me. Im very wise. [ laughter ] that, i knew. Peter i am predicting that were going to get some snow but it is going to be mostly slushy, nasty, dirty rain, snow mix. You are you going to be so off. I want a foot of snow. I grew up in the south. I never got snow. And so the fact that i live somewhere that actually has seasons, i kind of like that. But its march. A foot of snow weather it will be here for 20 minutes then it will be gone. Peter yeah, thats true. It will be all right. Trust me, it will be okay. Peter hold me. Dan is very dan is very excited for the snow. Youre going to get your prius stuck in a snowdrift. My prius is a snowmobile. No. We havent had any snow since i got the prius. I have no idea what to expect. Youll probably find me camping out on the floor tomorrow night. In the fetal position. Exactly. I mean look if we get snow, we get snow. My take on this is it was not that cold out this morning. It doesnt have to be that cold to snow. Peter it doesnt have to be that cold to snow. But if were borderline, we could have a mix of rain and snow. Anything under 34 or 35. Peter im well aware of what you need to make it snow, dan. Im saying i dont mr. Wizard over here. You should be reporting in chicago. You should be standing doing a live shot in the loop with the wind and snow coming down. Peter holding on to a pole. Im so excited. Cindys colleagues at the Washington Post capital weather gang, ive been following this and theyre on it man. Theyre saying you know, three inches by tomorrow morning. Then six in the midday and then nine. It could be a doozy. Peter we shall see. My children are very excited. Im not. Ive already abandoned my car on the beltway. [ laughter ] im ahead of the game. Im totally ahead of it. Peter during snowmageddon a couple of years ago because we come in very early. I started counting the cars that were on the side of the road. And this was one of the snowstorms that hit it hit at like 5 00 p. M. So im driving down the highway and im behind this cab and this cab is just driving and he turns on his hazard lights and slows down and he pulls off to the side of the road. I said uhoh he ran out of gas. A guy gets out of an abandoned car on the side of the highway, hops in the cab and they keep going. At like 4 15 a. M. Thats ludicrous. Peter when we get bad weather here, we really freak out. I dont understand the concept of abandoning your car. I dont understand that. Peter ten minutes past the hour. We of course will keep you up to date on all of the weather happenings here on the bill press show. Lots of stuff to talk about with cindy in the sports world but first this is the full court press. We have dan. Other headlines making news, if you would like to have the 43,000 rolex watch peter i dont. Former congressman Jesse Jackson illegally purchased with his Campaign Funds you may soon to have an opportunity to get it. Cbs reporting that the items he and his wife bought will likely be going up for auction once theyre sentenced. The collection includes fur coats, of course Michael Jacksons fedora, tvs and stuffed elk heads. I have needed an elk head. Absolutely. All of those items are currently property of the u. S. Marshals office. They wont hang on to them. They put them up for auction to pay restitution fees. Would a rolex be worth more or less now that its been owned by Jesse Jackson . Good question. Youre missing the big picture here. The big picture here is that would look so solid with Dennis Rodmans jacket, the one with all of the dollars on it. That would just be such a perfect look. You know, rodman had on his little ralph lauren hat and the scarf which was really nice. Peter tied it all together. Our new diplomat, Dennis Rodman. Americas got talent has hired a new judge to replace sharon osborn. Heidi klum will join the nbc talent show joining howard stern, howie mandel on the judges panel. Thats a decent enough shes got judging experience. Heres the deal. Let me put it this way. I dont watch any of the schlocky competition stuff. But that is one that i can col tate while my kids that i can tolerate while my kids wash. You wont watch when they rescue Louie Anderson . Finally, the National Rifle association is upping the ante sponsoring an upcoming nascar Sprint Cup Series race april 13th at the texas motor speedway. Formerly the texas 500. It will be called the nra 500 in the first saturday prime time race of the season. In front of a crowd of 190,000 people. Last year, the nra sponsored a nationwide series race for the first time. Peter when they call for the starting gun and the people in the crowd start firing off guns, we may have a problem. The winner on victory lane has to pull out sixshooters and put on a cowboy hat. Im serious. Peter oh, my god. Thats insane. Thats the traditional race. This isnt connected to the nra. Peter thats weird, i think. Well, its texas. Someone has won the race and they want them to look like a cowboy. Peter dont they normally drink milk . Thats the indy 500. I dont think he has to actually fire them off but they want him to look like a rootin tootin cowboy after he or she wins the race. Peter every time bill finishes a show, hes going to pull out two guns and hold them up in the air. You could just do the finger guns. Peter dan mentioned Dennis Rodman there. What you know, we talk a lot of politics on this show so we watch the sunday shows. Even though theyre a dying breed. I dont think they make a lot of news on the sunday shows anymore but they did this past sunday because we tuned in. There he was. That was surreal. Peter the worm with George Stephanopoulos on abc this week wearing a jacket printed with money on it. What the hell is going on . I want one of those. I think everybody does. The only thing that shocks me about it is if someone was going to do this and broker a relationship between kim jongun and obama shouldnt it have been Metta World Peace . Really . [ laughter ] i mean Dennis Rodman . Peter Metta World Peace elbows kim jongun in the head. Namewise it would have worked. Im look forward to seeing what hbo comes out of this with. They were over there shooting this supposedly. Peter this is for a show for hbo being done by vice, a magazine and they have a web site. It is really good stuff. I have a travel dvd that theyve done before. So im really excited to see this. It was great once they explained to dennis he wasnt in south korea and he wasnt going to see psi. At first he thought he was going to see the gangnam style guy. He tweeted and said dude, wrong place. Peter i want to talk about a local story here. Joe flacco. He has quite the contract. How much is he getting paid now . Supposedly, it is the richest contract in nfl history. Now, the nfl money is sort of like the money on rodmans jacket. You cant really take it into starbucks and buy a venti anything with it. It is not real. These contracts come out and the guy gets to trot out and say it is the richest contract ever, yippee. There is Something Like 52 million guaranteed. Thats real money. Good for him. But im a little suspicious about the whole richest contract ever. Peter he talked about it yesterday. Heres what he had to say about the money. What the value out there and what the market price is for quarterbacks out there i think what weve done here over the last five years warrants the respect that i guess ive gotten over this contract and i think thats what its about. Peter at the risk of infuriating resident rayeens fanatic phil backert over in the control room, are they paying him too much money . No. I dont think so. Heres why. Peter im not saying that they are. Im just asking the question. First off it is not real money. Secondly, i dont think so. The guy almost got them to the super bowl a year ago. He came just ever so close to getting them past the patriots a year ago in the afc championship game. He took them all the way this year. You pay the guy. Thats what you pay the guy for. To get you through the postseason and you know, hes delivered. Hes got a great postseason record. Not wins and losses. The wins and losses have only the victories have only come in the last two years. But hes money. When it counts. Like money on the jacket. So yeah, it is a lot of money. I dont think this necessarily means that hes one of the top three quarterbacks in the league. If youre going to start and someone asks you who you want, there are probably three names that will pop up before you get to flacco. But you know what . He delivered. He deserves it. He deserves the money. Peter what does that do to the rest of the ravens . Are they going to be able to play everybody else . Yeah, its loaded in such a way that they have cap room this year. So they have some maneuverability. Peter very interesting. Always good in the draft. Although their picks will be late. Peter meanwhile tom brady, robert kraft the owner of the new England Patriots said tom brady wont be joe montana. He wont be brett favre thank the lord in heaven. Again, i think you know, everybody wants to see brady finish up as a patriot. Brady wants the best possible people around him. This was just one of those things that he gets his guaranteed money. The guaranteed money is obscene. Kraft said they wont tear it up in a couple of years. Thats something the ravens can do with flacco. They can tear up the contract. Three years, if he suddenly goes down the tubes, they can dump him. The patriots thing is what it should be. It really is. Thats how everyone feels about that. Peter lets shift gears a little bit. Im the resident nba fanatic. Im the basketball watcher. The miami heat, last night dan we have the final call of their game. Two seconds on the shot clock. Instead, hell serve up the prayer and that will be the ball game. The final score, miami 97, minnesota, 81 as the heat set a franchise record, 15 wins in a row. Peter is a straight wins. I was watching the knicks game over the weekend. The knicks actually kept it competitive up until the very end. They had a chance. There was something so poetic about that lazy pass to jr smith through the end of the game that lebron stole and just trotted down the court by himself and just threw down a monster dunk, just to basically ind the game. Hes just playing peter hes a freak right now. Im always a little skeptical when a team goes on a run like this in late february and early march because i prefer to see it in april and may. But you know, why do you think that the heat why do you not think theyre going to be able to do this again come may and june. Peter the way that they play is so incredibly dominant. It is so much fun im not a lebron hater necessarily. Im not. Peter but i dont love lebron james. I dont care for him that much. Im not a big fan of his but i cant say im a hater. No. Peter but to watch them play it is impressive. It is impressive to watch him play. Peter im going to throw out there the obvious question of is he as good and is he as dominant as Michael Jordan . I know it is a silly question. It is kind of different. Michael jordan was a scalpel. Lebron is a sledgehammer. I think that i think that Michael Jordan was a lot more cutthroat about it than lebron james is. I dont doubt that lebron james wants to win. Michael jordan, you know, he liked Nothing Better than to be taunted by people. Look at the times when people when he would go to Atlantic City and gamble and people would write about it because i was in new york at the time, then he would go out and drop 50 on the knicks. Did you see the miami heat harlem shake video they did . Oh yeah. Peter lebron, that dude is an athlete in that video. Hes a dancer. Peter what a body on that guy. Hes a freak of nature. 21 minutes past the hour. It is peter ogborn sitting in for bill press. Washington sports post blogger cindy boren sitting in with us. Well take a quick break and be right back. Announcer this is the bill press show. That viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. They can question whether im right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. This show is about analyzing criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. Are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night . Is this personal or is it political . A lot of my work happens by doing the things that i am given to doing anyway. Staying in tough with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. Not only does senator rubio just care about rich people but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. But we do care about them, right . Vo the war room tonight at 6 eastern announcer this is the bill press show live on your radio and current tv. Peter it is the bill press show. The full court press. Im peter ogborn sitting in for bill press today along with Washington Post early lead blogger cindy boren. Cindy, thank you for being here. I have to sneak this quick comment in. Jim irwin on twitter said go, spurs. Not a big spurs fan. No one pays attention to the spurs until its like the first of may and then all of a sudden, everybody realizes theyre really well coach and they play really well. Tony parker looks like he might be out for about a month. Thats a big loss. But as you pointed out earlier, i would rather have it happen now than in a couple of weeks. Go spurs. On to now that weve talked about sports, lets talk about hockey. Thats not right. Peter im kidding. Im not a big hockey guy. Thats fine but i understand for our listeners and viewers in chicago on wcpt, they have quite a hockey team. The Chicago Blackhawks have won 22 straight games. Theyre never going to lose again ever. This year is different because of the lockout and the fact that the season is shorter. But you know, i think a lot of people have a really bad taste still over the lockout and you know, this is nice. It is great but i think it is going to take awhile before people come back to it. Here in d. C. , it is sort of this perfect storm of people being sort of jaded about the lockout. Combined with the fact that the capitals suck this year. Our local hockey team is not very good. So i mean there are questions about alex ovechkin, you know. Hes not playing the way that no, he isnt. Peter hes not playing very well. He used to be the premier player in the nhl. Adam oates is the new coach now. Maybe thats a problem. I think theres just a lot of new personalities and things are different. Maybe thats part of his problem. Hes getting older. I hate to say that. Hes still in his 20s. Hes not that old. He looks a lot older with all of the missing teeth. Thats terrible all right. We have to wrap it up. I was going to ask. Little bit about baseball. Lets say baseball is right around the corner. Im very excited. We broadcast less than a mile from nationals ballpark. 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Peter it is the bill press show, the full court press live on your radio all across the nation and on current tv. Thank you so much for being here. Im not bill press. Im peter ogborn sitting in today. Those of you that have paid attention to the show and every so often i get my chance to talk, you know very well im a son of charleston, south carolina. Im proud to call it my hometown. One of the reasons i love it so much is because basically they cook better than you do down there. It is very, very good food. Lots of good stuff. Two guys that are doing it better than a lot of other people out there are the lee brothers. Matt and ted lee. They have a new cookbook out. Im holding it right here. The lee brothers charleston kitchen. They join us on the line here on the full court press. Guys thanks for being here. Our pleasure. Thanks, peter. Peter matt, ill start with you. Tell me a little bit about how you guys got the idea to do this cookbook. It is a cookbook that focuses on the way people eat and cook in charleston, south carolina, in the low country. How did you come up with that idea . Oh, man this is a cookbook we were born to write. You know if you grow up there youre just enveloped in all of the awesomeness of the ingredients, especially. Were right on the water. It surrounds us. And so all of the critters that come out of there shellfish the fin fish, shark, all of that plus the whole bounty of the agriculture regions which are also right around the city. It is really interesting combination between urban and rural and charleston and formality and informality that really pervades the food and the food traditions. Peter and you know, there is i think a misconception out there that when were talking southern food, were talking about Fried Chicken and lots of pork products. This book, i think really highlights that. Theres a lot of good stuff down there besides just the fried foods. Absolutely. The south isnt just one place. Its got the new orleans style the panhandle florida thing the appalachian kentucky thing. Charleston, the lowcountry where it has been a port city for over 200 years. With all of those different influences. It is pretty sophisticated actually. And so when you dig in the history of the food and we interview people on the street, youre receiving all of these like tangled crazy rich messages from the past. Peter i think one of the things that really sort of highlights that is the picture on the back of the book that im showing to the it audience right now. It is for pan roasted okra, corn and tomatoes. It is the best of Southern Produce and it has you know, maybe seven or eight ingredients. You can see all of the ingredients right there on the recipe. It sort of speaks to the freshness of the things that come out of there. Ted, let me ask you, if you ask any sort of professional chef these days, a lot of them say that charleston is the premier food destination right now. In america. There is a lot of great stuff going on down there restaurantwise. Absolutely. It is very happening town currently. I think thats because it has sort of become a crucible where a lot of ideas and contemporary southern cuisine are expressed. Especially ones that are looking back to the past. A lot of restaurants have come up like hominy grill doing a turn on old ingredients and traditional techniques and that sort of thing. And seeing the restaurant it is simply as diverse. We have street food and food trucks and that kind of thing as a nice sort of contrast or a variety to the southern places. And at the same time, charleston has always been a great place for home cooking and so matt and i in the new book, we really wanted to provide a context through the home cooking context and Historical Context to the contemporary vibrant dining theme thats happening at the restaurant level. Peter there was, i think one of my Favorite Recipes because i think you guys do it justice are the collards that you cook in the cookbook. And do you something in here that ive never heard of. I think it speaks to what you were talking about with the home cooked. The collard sandwich. Ive never heard of that. Neither had we. You know, we couldnt quite believe it because it is such a simple thing. You take your collards, left over ideally squeeze out the moisture and lay them down on bread, lay slice of your favorite cheese on top and broil it until it melts and youre sort of good to go. But you know, great food ideas can be super simple. We feel in our hearts like everything has been tried before. And maybe it has. But you know, you might not have tried it. Good ideas need reinventing presenting again you know, it is wonderful to realize that were not at the end of the line as far as food creativity is concerned. All it takes is to open up an old cookbook from 1919 to see some pretty wild ideas. Peter how many of these sort of ideas because a lot of people look some people call it lard core, the cooking coming from the south. Other people just look to the Southern Region of america as the hot food thing right now. You guys have been doing it for awhile. These are not new groundbreaking ideas. Yeah. Ted, you go ahead. Yeah, i mean the thing is whats exciting about looking to the old books is that you see ideas there that really havent been addressed in awhile and we do that in our books. Try to reach back into the past and find Something Like oysters this appeared in two books from the past. In 1834 book and an 1847 book. And it just seemed so intriguing because matt and i had never heard of such a thing. It is a root vegetable like a par snip or carrot but with a mild almost vanillalike flavor. What they were doing was making a puree of salsa putting it in a deep fryer almost like a falafel. What comes out is something that looks very much like an oyster. It is more like the most esterial vegetable youve ever had. If you love falafel this is like a revolution. It is amazing. And thats something that just seems so new and original to us. And yet it is from the early part of the 19th century. The recipes in here are so us awesome. I love how you really, really highlight the great products that you can find in charleston and in the region. You even have a section that talks a little bit about foraging. Matt, talk a little bit about what you can find just walking through charleston. Thats really the cool thing. It is like so many of these ingredients are simply free for the taking. First off rosemary. If you ever walk the streets of charleston, youll see the rosemary comes out and practically attacks you on the sidewalk. So dont ever spend 4. 50 for a little tray of california rosemary. It is all over. Just all around you and each one has a slightly different flavor. Because there were probably different varieties. This time of year, it is all about citrus. It is not talked about a lot around town. Almost every other backyard has a nice, big orange tree or kumquats little grapesized citrus. Great fruit trees around town that are just filled. It looks like something out of dr. Seuss. Tree with honking yellow grapefruit on it. We have figs, pecans. You can compose a pretty nice salad from what you find around town. Peter personally, i need your help with something because i serve grits not that long ago when i had some people over. One of the guys that ate them, they had no idea what grits were. And so i was trying to explain the difference between grits and polenta. And i had a really hard time with it. So ill let you guys try to help me out. I love grits. I grew up eating grits. I still eat grits. I can help you with that. Theyre both corn. Theyre dried cracked corn. The difference is how anal the italians are. When you crack corn, you have hull you want to get rid of. A blower is good for that, like a fan or something. And then you also have corn kernel itself has a tasty germ and it has a large part of protein that is like rice. It has a flowery part that you normally just sift out and get rid of. But if youre maniacal about it, you can get real even grains. Thats what you see in polenta. Theyre really the same thing. It is way that the american variety, grits is going to be a little more variegated. It will have little bits and slightly bigger bits and other differences, the variety of corn that theyre using like the italians prefer i dont know what the name of it is. They probably prefer a certain kind of corn that is imported from south africa or Something Like that whereas here, weve got just a million by now native varieties of seed corn that our farmers prefer to grow and the millers prefer to grind. Peter i have spent my entire adult life trying to answer that question. You just gave the best explanation. You guys are awesome. Seriously. Thank you so very much. I appreciate you being with me here on the full court press. Thanks for having us. The lee brothers, you can find them on twitter the lee bros on twitter. Online matt lee and ted lee. Com. Go buy a copy of their new book, the lee brothers, charleston kitchen. It is really truly fantastic. It is great for the home cooks. Buy yourself a couple of copies and give some to the foodies in your life. Im peter ogborn sitting in for bill press. Going to take a quick break. Well be right back. Announcer heard around the country and seen on current tv, this is the bill press show. 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Shout out to the lee brothers for joining us in the last segment. Get some good recipes there. Next hour, well be talking to buzzfeeds Washington Bureau chief john stanton and Roger Gastman, curator and producer of a cool new documentary called the legend of cool disco dan. Who is cool disco dan . Stay tuned. Well tell you. Either youre not from washington, d. C. Or you just havent been paying close enough attention. Lots of political news going on. I know i havent talked a lot about the sequester today. Frankly, ive got that sequester hangover. I know it is a big deal. We talked a lot about the cuts that are sort of being taken that are taking place because of it with igor volsky in the last hour. But you know, i just my faith in the government getting something done slips away day after day after day after day. But yesterday we got some notable voices on the sequester and what it means and whats happening out there. Department of Homeland Security secretary Janet Napolitano saying that were already seeing longer lines at airports. We are already seeing the effects at some of the ports of entry, the big airports, for example, some of them had very long lines this weekend. Heres some of the cuts that igor volsky was talking to us about at thinkprogress. Org. 79 million cut from Embassy Security. Construction and maintenance. 232 million cut from the faa. Thats big money. 512 million cut from customs and border protection. You know, these are all already taking place. It is already out there. 928 million cut from fema. 928. Thats almost a billion dollars cut from fema. You think this country has benefited from fema recently . I think we have. Just look at katrina and sandy and other tragedies that have hit us. Also in yesterdays press briefing jay carney fielding a variety of questions. Somebody did ask him about Dennis Rodman going to north korea by the way. You knew somebody was going to ask him about that. He had to field that question. He talked about sort of keeping hope alive that we get something done in this government. There is a caucus of common sense out there, lawmakers in both parties who understand that we need to do tough things to achieve entitlement reforms because thats the right thing for our economy. We need to do tough things on tax reform, tough things for republicans. Peter lets see what happens. I like the idea that he referenced a caucus of common sense, you know, that maybe there are some reasonable lawmakers out there. Mostly on the other side of the aisle that can sort of see that were just destroying and dismantling the economy day by day. Weve got to get something done. It is nice, however to have barack obama sort of leading the way through this. The president. We had another choice with mitt romney and that didnt turn out so well for him. He gave his first interview to Fox News Sunday this past weekend. We played some clips from it yesterday but i wanted to follow up on one cut that i thought was really telling about who mitt romney is. Romney said first of all, that he was devastated and crushed that he cant be in the white house, not because he really wanted to be here. He just feels bad for americans that we cant be here we cant have him we cant experience his leadership. And another clip he talked about the famous 47 remarks that he gave to the behind closed doors donors. Here is his defense of his comments. You know, when you speak in private, you dont spend as much time thinking about how something can be twisted and distort and be used. But did i and it was very harmful. What i said is not what i believe. Peter what i said is not what i believe. What i said is not what i believe. If you ever wanted to know who mitt romney was and i know weve fought this battle and i know that weve gone over this but im going to take a little bit of a victory lap because it is so it is so perfect everything that we said about mitt romney was true. Mitt romney is the the Romney Campaign is who we thought they were. He says i said something behind closed doors that i didnt mean for you to hear and i didnt mean it. So there you go. Every politician that youve ever distrusted, every politician every time youve seen a story about a politician and go he doesnt mean whats says. Romney gives credence to a lot of that because he flat out says what i said is not what i meant. Seven minutes before the top of the hour. Im peter ogborn sitting in for bill press. Find us on twitter at bpshow. Im tweeting at peter ogborn. Find me there. Find the show at bpshow. Give us a call at 186655press. Going to take a quick break. Well take a look at the president s schedule. See what hes up to today. I have a feeling hes going to be in a lot of meetings. Stay tuned. Announcer on your radio and on current tv, this is the bill press show. vo she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. Ok, so theres wiggle room in the ten commandments, thats what youre saying. vo shes joy behar. Current will let me say anything. Announcer this is the bill press show. Peter it is the bill press show. Peter ogborn sitting in for bill press today. Thank you all for tuning in. I appreciate it. Whats the president up to today . Well at 10 15 president and Vice President receive the president ial daily briefing. Then at 11 00 the president meets with senior advisers. He has a break until about 2 00 when he departs the white house and heads to bethesda, maryland. He will be going to Walter Reed National military medical center. It is closed press. Dont expect to see a lot of stuff coming out of there around 2 35 today. I have a feeling he wont have much traffic to battle between here and bethesda seeing as how hes the president. Hell hang out there for about two hours. Back to the white house around 4 30. And then he and joe biden will meet with new secretary of defense chuck hagel in the oval office and jay carney will have his press briefing around 12 45 today. You know, it is just not the same, not having bill around to go to the press briefings because if somebody hadnt asked about Dennis Rodman yesterday at the briefing bill would have been the guy to do it. You know he would have done it. Thats sort of bills jam. He gets those questions that nobody else is going to ask. When hes at the White House Press briefing. So i imagine that the president will find time to take some calls during his travels today. And if hes got a window between 11 00 and 2 00 where he can maybe work with some congressional leaders to get something done on sequester and where we go from here. Of course, well have it all covered here on current tv and on the full court press. Stay tuned. Quick break. Well be right back with buzzfeeds john stanton. Announcer this is the bill press show. [ theme ] peter it is the full court press on current tv. Thank you so much for tuning in. What a show weve had already today. What a show we have coming up. Washingtons bureau chief for buzzfeed, big john stanton will be here in studio with us along with art historian curator and movie producer Roger Gastman with a great new documentary out called the legend of cool disco dan. Who is cool disco dan . Stay tuned. Well tell you in about 30 minutes live on current tv. Would you vote for someone who has shown her breasts in a movie . That is the argument that the daily caller is trying to make that ashley judd is not suitable for Public Office because she got naked in a movie. Because you know, shes an actress and everything. She played Marilyn Monroe not marilyn manson. That would be some acting jobs. She played Marilyn Monroe who famously got naked for playboy, ashley judd reenacted that scene. She also showed her breasts in a couple of other movies. The daily caller basically says shes shown you everything. So i see no major problem with that. Do you . 186655press is our number. Of course, were always on twitter at bpshow. And online at billpressshow. Com. Join the current chat room. Current. Com billpress where were taking your comments on ashley judd, sequester and would you eat horse meat . Im peter ogborn sitting in for bill. Lots more coming up on current. Compelling true stories. Jack, how old are you . Nine. This is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. vo with Award Winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. vo from the underworld, to the world of privilege. Everyone in Michael Jacksons life was out to use him. vo no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current. 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Peter it is the bill press show. The full court press live on your radio and on current tv. Thank you so much for being here. I really appreciate it. Clearly, im not bill press. Im peter ogborn sitting in for bill today. Thank you so much for being there. With me as always, running the board is dan henning. Mr. Henning. Good morning. Peter thank you for doing what you do. Screening your calls is phil backert and on the video operations is cyprian bowlding who doesnt get to say hello. He just gets to wave hello. Hi cyprian. Were tweeting at bpshow at bpshow. Were online at bill press show. You can join the current chat room at current. Com billpress. People already in the current chat room sort of mad at me because i said that i want to eat horse. I actively am looking to find some horse to cook and buzzfeeds Washington Bureau chief john stanton joins me in studio. John, you admitted to me during the break that youve eaten some really weird things. Yeah. I was in china a couple of years ago for my honeymoon and we went to a place with my wifes aunt who is chinese called donkey meat banquet. And peter what a perfect name. Thats exactly what it sounds like. Donkey meat banquet. They have donkey skin soup and sandwiches they make that are almost like a taco that have donkey meat in them. It is probably the leanest one of the tastiest meats ive ever eaten in my entire life. Peter first im looking to cook horse and i might get some stew meat. Kind of looks like beef stew but donkey skin soup, thats hard corps. People in china believe that it helps with your skin and keeping your skin look nice and healthy. Peter all right. When we were there we went out to her aunts village and we went out for some of the big dinner. It was a wedding kind of a dinner. We had dog. Peter youve eaten dog. People are giving me grief because we dont eat dog, why should we eat horse meat. Im full on lets eat horse meat. If i was ever in china, i would probably eat dog. They dont eat it every day. It is not a common thing. Peter special occasions. Yeah. You know, it was good. It tasted like the way it was prepared, it was shredded. It tasted like shredded pork. They also had this really i like it. My wife hated it but they make this tofu with pigs blood thats absolutely it is like blood sausage. Peter im all about the pig blood. I was saying earlier, i do some food writing. You can follow me on twitter at peter ogborn to find out some of that stuff but i write about food. I actually killed my own pig last year and caught the blood to make a blood cake which is like a casingless blood sausage which is delicious. So yeah, im all about the pig blood. It is funny. If youve ever been to france, in paris, there are horse meat shops. You can go and just buy steaks and ribs or whatever. And different places in the world, people eat different things. If you go to india and youre in like a hindu village in india you probably wont eat any meat. To some people, that is probably weird but thats how they do it. Peter bill went to school in switzerland. He would be walking down the street and there would be a shop with a wooden cow outside and there would be one that just had all of the vegetables laid out and another shop down, it would just be a wooden horses head hanging outside. He would roll up in there and get his horse meat. There you go. Im all for it, man. It is better for you than a lot of red meat. If you eat red meat already i really truly no one has yet to call in and give me a serious argument about why we shouldnt eat it. Weve personified horses in this country. We give them personalities we name them. We see a lot of human traits in them which may or may not actually exist. At the same time, on that scale we shouldnt be eating pigs because there are definitely more peter pigs are crazy smart. They create family units that i think is part of what freaks people out. Peter delicious family units. It is 11 minutes past the hour. Weve got a lot to talk about here. Were going to check in with the full court press with dan henning. Whats up . Announcer this is the full court press. Got some other headlines making news on this tuesday. The white house has responded to another petition on its web site but this one theyre acting on which many cell phone users on either side of the aisle can likely agree on. Our friends at buzzfeed reporting on this story. The Obama Administration is supporting a plan to make unlocking cell phones legal. Meaning opening a phone to use on another Companys Network than for the one you originally purchased the phone for they also say tablets should be able to be unlocked legally as well to be used on whatever network that you want to use it on instead of having to go buy a new tablet or phone. Peter thats change i can believe. Im all for it. You should be able to use it wherever you want. Right now technically, it is illegal. It is like hacking. Peter fine. I mean really and truly if you buy it, you should be able to use it. The National Rifle association is upping the ante sponsoring an upcoming nascar Sprint Cup Series race april 13th at the texas motor speedway, formerly the texas 500 will be called the nra 500. The first saturday prime time race of the season in front of a crowd of 190,000 people. Last year, nra sponsored a nationwide series race but this time theyre up in the sprint car. Peter i dont know how i feel about that. Cindy boren from the post was in earlier that said basically the winner the winners circle, they give them sixshooters to hold up in the air when they win. Not kidding. You have to hold guns up in the air after you win. This is 2013 and were doing that type of stuff. And the miami heat are on fire. They reached an nba franchise record last night winning their 15th straight game beating the Minnesota Timberwolves 9781. According to espn, dwyane wade posting 32 points. Derek williams scored 25 and lebron squames was playing hurt but he still put up 20. The heat are now 4414. Best in the eastern conference. Seven games ahead of indiana. I hate those guys. Peter theyre easy to hate. They really are easy to hate. Im not a lebron hater. Im not a lebron fan either. I mean it is just sort of like the yankees now. They just built this evil empire. They happen to be working. 15 straight games is pretty remarkable. Thank you dan as always. John, i want to Start Playing a clip from Jimmy Kimmel Live last night. So he does this thing, he goes out on to the street. He asks random, unsuspecting people on the street a completely made up question. But it shows how little americans grasp the sequester these days. Heres the question that he posed. What do you think about the fact that north korea is developing its own sequester . Thats pretty scary. Very scary. Did you hear that south korea is developing their own sequester . I feel like this is just is it i dont know what that is so sure, let them do it. My parents were killed by a sequester. Okay. Im sorry. Peter thats basically where we are right now. I mean the sequester has been coming. It was a long time in the making. Here we are. I dont know that we collectively care anymore than we used to, right . No. You know, its funny. The famous reporter that asked Newt Gingrich in 95 about the rebels in fedonia and whether or not he was supporting that and the clinton administrations position. He gave this very long answer. Of course, anybody knows Marx Brothers history knows fedonia is the fictional country in animal crackers. You ask somebody a question, you act like you know what youre doing, theyll almost always give you some kind of an answer. The sequester nobody understands it. I cover it and i barely understand exactly where can and cant go, whether or not they have any kind of flexibility for parts of it. They say they do. Other people say they dont. Peter when we were watching this as it was building up and brewing, there was i personally was watching theyll come up with something last minute. Theyll avoid this. That seems to be the way we get Business Done these days. It is a lastminute deal. The lastminute deal didnt happen. Oh, crap we actually hit the wall on this one. And so now here we are. Nobody seems to be really freaking out yet. The problem with the sequester honestly is that the vast majority of people that are going to be hurt by it are federal workers. Even beyond just theyll be affected pretty hard in the military side. But around here in d. C. , maryland virginia, any place where those are the people that will actually feel it. They are right above politicians and reporters in the most hated lists in america. Nobody cares about them. Which is sort of a shame because these people are hard working americans. They do jobs, theyre not the bureaucrats everyone hates like at the top of the pile. Theyre the grunts that are sort of doing the everyday work of government and they dont get paid, you know, extraordinary amounts of money and yet they are much maligned. But you know, if theyre the ones that will get hurt, it doesnt create the kind of public backlash that would bring this thing down. Right. We had igor volsky from think progress in earlier today. Theyve got 32 what they call 32 dumbest and devastating sequester cuts. It is shocking when you read that 928 million has been cut from femas Disaster Relief money. That is one of those things that youre not going to feel until you do. And so i mean its kind of easy to cut that now. When you run into something major and we dont have the money there anymore. It wasnt such a good idea. Right. I think one of the things people talked about is trying to find a way to give everybody some flexibility. And republicans focused primarily on the military side so that Mission Critical things and dont get hurt so you can take money out of golf courses or for them, they think green energy, stuff like that. Some democrats have looked at this department and said republicans are unlikely to give the administration that kind of flexibility on the domestic side. But you know, it is only 2 of the budget. There is way more than 2 of the budget is nonsense. I mean beyond earmarks or that kind of thing. Just wasteful things that go on. Projects that shouldnt exist anymore that continue to exist. Things like that. There are probably easy ways to find these cuts but by doing it and the reason they did it this way frankly was to force everybody to the table. By having it be across the board, it hits everything. Thats a bad thing i think for a lot of people. Peter so are they are the sequester cuts here to stay . Is there a way to sort of dodge the bullet and sort of rewrite what weve already done and fix that . Certainly that seems to be the way that some business gets done here. I think what well end up doing is continuing resolution to fund us through october for the military side. Theyre going to republicans have written a bill that basically rejiggers the funding for at least that portion of it to create specific places where they want it cut. That gives dod some flexibility. Cuts will be there i suspect until october. Were now talking about you know, the debt ceiling. Because these have gone into effect and because of the tax increases on the wealthy in january, the debt ceiling looks like it will probably go until august which will give us yet another august recess fight and that could be a spot where they maybe fix this longterm. Peter i think there has been so much spent. Weve sort of made me in the dust on who gets the blame on this. Who gets the blame for the sequester. I think they both handled it poorly. I think the president could have come out and said early on, look we need need to cut some stuff. We really need to cut some stuff and listed some of those things. But the sort of kept putting people out and saying this is whats going to happen if it comes. This is whats going to happen. Everyone is jockeying say no, it was their fault. It was their fault. Bob woodward gets the mix. It is arguably the dumbest argument that has ever happened in washington. Who is responsible for this thing. We all agreed. Thank you. Thats it in a nutshell. We all agree to do it but it is your fault. I really do think that it is hard to not believe when you watch everybody, republicans and democrats both argue about this. What theyre really doing is theyre trying to obfuscate the fact that none of them showed any leadership. The original debt ceiling fight or during the subcommittee. That was when they were supposed to step up to the plate and act liked a ults. Instead, they cowered. They refused to do their job. Thats what they all should be being forced to take responsibility for, i think, is the fact that were in a period of American History in which no one has any courage that is supposed to be sort of a leader. Part of being a leader is having to do difficult things. Convincing people that youre leading that it is going to suck. We have to do this. People have done it in the past. And from both parties. They dont seem to want to do that. Peter well take a quick break. Want to talk about buzzfeed brews after this short break. It is peter ogborn sitting in for bill press with john stanton, Washington Bureau chief for buzzfeed. Well be right back. Announcer radio meets television. The bill press show. Now, on current tv. Honest. They can question whether im right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. The chill of peppermint. The rich dark chocolate. York peppermint pattie get the sensation. This show is about analyzing criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. Are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night . Is this personal or is it political . A lot of my work happens by doing the things that i am given to doing anyway. Staying in tough with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. Not only does senator rubio just care about rich people but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. But we do care about them, right . Vo the war room tonight at 6 eastern announcer this is the bill press show. Feat is the full full court press, the bill press show on your current tv. Im peter ogborn sitting in for bill. We have buzzfeeds bureau chief john stanton in studio with us. Later on today the second edition of buzzfeed brews, a couple of weeks ago ben smith was in studio after he talked to marco rubio in the inaugural edition of buzzfeed brews. You will be interviewing gillibrand. I am indeed. Peter it is youtube. Com buzzfeed. You guys will be streaming that live starting at 6 00 p. M. Eastern time. So what can we expect if were going to be watching . You know, i find her to be pretty fascinating character. I didnt know a lot about her before we signed her up. Getting to sort of do a Little Research on her, very interesting woman. Shes very, very involved in trying to get more women engaged in politics and rubbing for political office. Shes a mother of two Young Children and somehow finds a way to balance being a United States senator and the mother which i think is fascinating. I dont know how anybody takes care of a child with having anything else to do. As a father of two they practically raise themselves. We have a dog. He helps. It is not that hard. Shes had some interesting life experiences. She lived in china for awhile. Peter you can ask her if shes been to donkey banquet. You know, i think youre going to find a lot of interesting things about this person. Shes very much an upand comer in the democratic party. Shes become quite a fundraiser which is making her a popular figure within the democratic party. She raised over a Million Dollars last cycle for women that were running for office which is a lot of money. A lot of money to pour into other peoples campaigns. It will be a good time. Shes going to actually drink beer with me. Peter i was going to say. That was a big scandal last time because when marco rubio was there with ben smith we must have watched him go through seven beers while he was doing the interview. He was hammered, marco rubio didnt have one drink. Shes going to drink . Shes definitely going to drink, i think. Do you have any say over the kind of beers you think or do you get whatever . We get whatever. Im definitely going to be drinking d. C. Brew, the hometown. I like that. Peter youtube. Com buzzfeed. Stream that live if you want to tweet about it. The hashtag is buzzfeed brews. Im sure youll get a lot of good stuff out of this one. John is going to stick around. Weve got something very exciting coming up. Art historian curator producer of movies, Roger Gastman will be in studio with us. Hes talking about a new exhibit he has at the corcoran here in washington, d. C. And a new movie coming to a theatre near you. The legend of cool disco dan. Who is cool disco dan . Well tell you. It is the full court press. Peter ogborn sitting in for bill. Ill be right back. Announcer this is the bill press show. High. Cenk uygur i think the number one thing viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. I think the audience gets that i actually mean it. Michael shure this show is about being up to date so a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i am given to doing anyway. Joy behar you can say anything here. Jerry springer i spent a couple of hours with a hooker joy behar your mistake was writing a check Jerry Springer she never cashed it vo the days events. Four very unique points of view. Tonight starting at 6 eastern. Announcer chatting with you live at current. Com billpress. This is the bill press show. Live on your radio and current tv. Peter it is the full court press. The bill press show. Im peter ogborn sitting in for bill this morning. Were tweeting at bpshow. You can find us there. If you cant find us on the radio or on tv. Communicate with us there. 24 7 were always there, right dan . Always manning the twitter machine. Were joined in studio for the hour by buzzfeeds Washington Bureau chief john stanton. Were joined by art historian curator, producer of movies and friend of mine, Roger Gastman. Very excited that youre here and phil is excited because you are wearing an an orioles cap representing the local flavor here. Thanks for coming in, roger. Hello. Peter i want to talk first of all about this really cool exhibit at the Corcoran Museum here in washington, d. C. It is called pump me up. Tell us sort of what its about. Im really pissed i havent been able to see it yet. But whats going on there . Ive been inviting you down. I sent you all of the invites. I was telling john i really want to go and weve got such crazy schedules here. Im such an old man. Im in bed by 9 30 or 10 00. Just so you know, i tried. Pump me up, a d. C. Exhibit at the corcoran, nontraditional exhibit there. You walk right into the museum and youre in the atrium and youre in the exhibit. It is d. C. Subculture of the 1980s. Really a good blend of punk rock gogo music a lot of do it yourself culture of the 1980s. Record album covers, photos, fine art drawings, ephemera, all kinds of stuff. Peter i didnt grow up here in d. C. John, you did. And you were sort of a part of that scene. I sort of watched it from afar where i was growing up but for people who dont know, what is gogo . The best way i can describe gogo to people who have never heard gogo is take Parliament Funkadelic and mix it with hiphop and if you know what youre talking about with music you can describe the song. It is music that you have sex to. Peter perfect. I usually use lamb of god to have sex kidding totally kidding. Thats when im having sex against my will. Usually thats playing in the background. It is sort of yulencompassing stuff. When you talk about d. C. In the 80s, there was a lot of stuff going on. D. C. In the 80s, the thing people think of is violence, crazy city thats deserted and a lot of negative things going on. But there was a lot of creative going on in that time. Because of all of the crazy things that had happened. You can trace it back to the riots of 68. The citys deserted. You can get rehearsal space cheaper free. You can squat. You can write graffiti on the corner. You can sell crack. You can book your own concerts. It doesnt change in the city through the 80s. Doesnt change in the city until you get into the 2000s. Peter you talk about the rehearsal space and music that came out of d. C. What kind of stuff are we talking about . What kind of music were you listening to, john . You know, one of the first bands that i really remember listening to and being like oh, my god thats it is like minor threat. I think that happens for a lot of kids in the city. You heard it. At first you didnt i didnt know they were from d. C. I listened to them and government issue was another band and i listened to this older kid made me this tape that had a whole bunch of their songs on it. I listened to it and i said to him, i would love to see these guys. And government issue was sort of ending. Hes like theyve soft ended but every day practically you can go someplace in d. C. And see bands exactly like this. These guys were from d. C. That blew my mind. It sort of sent me on these random treks into the city looking for stuff. Peter right. So theres a lot of music thats covered at the exhibit. And aside from the music, you talk about d. C. In the 80s, i think one of the biggest figures is marion barry. You guys cover him in the exhibit. Absolutely. Marion barry hes definitely covered in the exhibit. We did our best to get him down there. We called and called and called, marion barry please come. Peter hes been on the show before. Hes a very he gets on a National Level everyone knows marion barry for doing what he did but hes a very interesting deep character. Absolutely. It was important to us in the exhibit to not just cover marion barry for what he did. He did a lot of other things and doing research on the film, the legend of cool disco dan interviewing so many other people from old grange and crew members to old gang and crew members to professors. We interviewed people and the love the city had for marion barry is huge. What he did almost made them love him more. It was important to not only cover barry for the one incident but some of the other things did he. One of the things that came up over and over was he gave me a summer job. Marion barry gave me a summer job. Peter yeah, yeah. You mentioned how the thing that he did made people love him more. I find that so fascinating in this town. I think you know, in the movie, there is talk about this. The reality is that people in d. C. Felt very i think to a certain degree, still feel very marginalized by the federal government because Congress Comes and they complain about d. C. And we get maligned. People outside of d. C. Hate us and they hate the city because of ironically, the people they send here. And you know, marion barry was this figure that stood up to them and said screw you guys, i dont care what you think. They really did, for better or for worse whether they had the right to go after him or not they did go after him. It came a priority, i think to bring down marion barry. So when they did everybody sort of was like well, thats messed up. Hes our mayor. Hes the man. Leave him alone. When you talk about marion barry, there is a documentary the nine lives of marion barry. The nine lives of marion barry. If you have seen it, you should watch it. It shows that hes such a deep guy. Beyond just the thing that got him in trouble. He was a civil rights leader. D. C. Before he came along was like d. C. , it is hard to say this but it is southern district. Were in the south. Here in d. C. It doesnt feel like it but it used to really feel like it. And marion barry sort of helped change that culture of washington a lot. So its a really cool documentary. I will say in the exhibit something everyone has loved if you go into the hallway which is where you go into the bathroom and you look close, youre going to find one of his tshirts from 9091, one of those shirts. Peter talk about the stuff in the exhibit. So it is a shirt from a street vendor. How the hell did you find that . Ive been digging for years and years. One person has one thing one person has another thing. I have a lot of secrets of where i find things. I dont need other people driving my prices up. It has been a lot of digging through the years. Ive been a collector. Probably should have thrown away a lot of things but im glad i didnt. Very cool. It is at the corcoran if youre in d. C. We mention it, the documentary. The legend of cool disco dan. Ive been teasing it all morning. Whos cool disco dan . Cool disco dan is the phantom of d. C. Hes the legend of d. C. If you were in d. C. In the 80s from the early 80s through the late 90s and you rode the red line, if you went anywhere downtown, you saw a cool disco dan signature or tag somewhere. It was easy to read. It was legible and it was a fun name. So you would remember it. A lot of people didnt really look at it as graffiti. They looked at it as the signature of the city. Peter you grew up around this. You know some of this. It was everywhere. You would see it on buses. You would see it on the subway. On the corner someplace. I remember as a kid being you know, maybe 10 or 11, you know, 84, 85, we would all try to mimic his tag because it was just the coolest thing. Everywhere you went, you saw it. You would see it in the bathrooms of restaurants not like some corner joint but fancy spots. You would go to the bathroom, there it would be. Peter really . There were so many mimics of it. Through the years. My favorite one that was the most fun i probably saw around a dozen times was cool boogie dancer. [ laughter ] peter thats awesome. So i mean the documentary talks not only about cool disco dan but also sort of what birthed cool disco dan the d. C. Scene and the music scene. What was that like . The film started as just a documentary about cool disco dan but as we got a little further into it, actually quite early on we realized dan storied the story of the city. He was everywhere at once yet nowhere at all. His signature was everywhere. So many people could relate to it. We started to more and more people. It is the story of d. C. In the 80s. We start with civil rights because civil rights was a big reason dans family moved to d. C. They left boston where they were. Ended up in northern virginia. Dan grew up in d. C. In the 80s through the early 90s. We traced his story. We tell the story of d. C. Through a lot of very interesting characters from marion barry to chuck brown to on and on. It is a huge cast of characters in the film. I think well surprise a lot of people. We had pretty much just had six soldout shows at afi in silver spring. Well be showing the film again soon. I thought it was amazing the number of people you guys found to talk. Kenny ball from the minnesota avenue crew who is like his legendary figure in d. C. Of like this dude who would just knock you out. He had him in the movie. A bunch of the other graffiti writers which is also saying i think the graffiti writing scene was maligned in a lot of ways. People saw it as whatever. But there were a lot of talented people that were out there doing this. I thought the movie did a fantastic job. Finding the people is one of the most challenging things. Sure we knew where to find someone like marion barry and chuck brown but finding people from the gogo bands especially finding the old crew members, it was a bunch of us with expensive, large amount of camera equipment going down into the hood. Knocking on doors. Just asking around, hey, we knew such and such used to hang out here 25 years ago. You seen him . [ laughter ] peter so awesome. I love it. You got Henry Rawlins to narrate the film which is pretty bad ass in my book. When we come back, i want to talk about graffiti art in general. A lot of people sort of have maligned it as destructive and kind of want to figure out where were going with it and what the story is on graffiti art. 44 minutes past the hour. My name is peter ogborn sitting in for bill press today. Got Roger Gastman in studio. Weve got john stanton in studio. Dont go anywhere. Well be right back. Announcer radio meets television. The bill press show now on current tv. Not come in smellivision. The sweatshirt is nice and all but i could use a golden lasso. vo only on current tv. [ male announcer ] its red lobsters lobsterfest our Largest Selection of lobster entrees like lobster lovers dream or new grilled lobster and lobster tacos. Come in now and sea food differently. Visit redlobster. Com now for an exclusive 10 coupon on two lobsterfest entrees. Break the ice with breathfreshening cooling crystals. Ice breakers. Viewpoint digs deep into the issues of the day. Has the time finally come for real Immigration Reform . With a distinctly satirical point of view. If you believe in states rights but still believe in the drug war you must be high. Only on current tv. Announcer heard around the country and seen on current tv this is the bill press show. Peter its the bill press show. Full court press. Peter ogborn sitting in for bill today. Weve got buzzfeeds Washington Bureau chief john stanton and along with art historian, curator producer, Roger Gastman. To find out more about Roger Gastman at rogergastman. Com and on twitter at Roger Gastman. I did say d. C. Is southern. Geographically, we are below the mason dixon line. Bark way says d. C. Is no more southern than maine is canadian. I grew up in south carolina. Thats the south. Thats really hard to call d. C. The south but geographically, we are the south. Roger, youve written youve got books out about graffiti, the history of american graffiti is a book you did. And were talking about cool disco dan. I mean what is it about graffiti that has sort of risen to prominence here recently . People are giving it a lot more credibility in the art world. Graffiti has become more and more popular. It is Fastest Growing art movement in the world in the last 30 years. Theres no arguing that whether you love it or hate it. It has been displayed in museum after museum. We had art in the streets at l. A. Mocha. We had over 250,000 people through in a three and a half month show. It is everywhere. But of course, people are always going to hate on it. Thats graffiti. It is vandalism. I get that. Sure, you can look at a big beautiful mural and say it is graffiti. But if it is legal, it is a mural. The purest form of graffiti will be illegal graffiti, bubble letters on a wall and as much people are going to hate on me for it and say im going to come right on your house, thats what i love to see. Peter has anybody written on your house . Not yet. One thing in the movie that i thought was interesting maybe you can talk a little bit about the gogo tags that started. That was sort of like the genesis of d. C. s sort of tagging scene. Absolutely. D. C. Graffiti is the earliest d. C. Graffiti other than graffiti from the riots is gogo graffiti which kids in the early 80s from southeast just want to write their names. They dont know about whats going on in new york on the subways. They havent stein style wars. They want to go write their name. Their regular name isnt cool enough. In the movie gangster george says being george wasnt cool enough. I had to be gangster george. The style is simple. Think of Elementary School penmanship. He does a big g and small eorge next to it. A lot of people who have two os in their name, look something is their name and they make the two os into a face. It is very simple. It is not about style. It is just about being known. Peter thats fascinating about the cool disco dan. It is nothing special about the way that he writes cool disco dan. I was trying to explain this. He just writes cool disco dan on there. But i mean the way that he does it and the amount that he does it, it is all over the place. So it is just sort of the art it is it has a little flair to it. You can see the tags in 1994 and 1992, the stylistic evolution but it really is a very simple signature. But the point is it looks the same over and over and over again. If i start tagging im going to start tagging in comic sans. I think you should. I used to have this not argument but this conversation with my mom. My mom was an art teacher and when i was growing up and we had a mutual friend, Justin Van Hoyt who did a lot of art and worked with youth. We would have this conversation about how graffiti is, like it or not, it is art. She would always art dealers have proven it is art. You see there are there is a shepherd print in the back of two and a half men right now. Both those people. Art is selling. You name the auction house. Phillips christies, et cetera. It is selling for a lot of money. Peter good stuff. Rogergastman. Com on twitter at Roger Gastman. Thank you so much for being here man. Thank you. Peter John Stanton Buzzfeed brews tonight. You will be interviewing kiersten gillibrand. Watch it at youtube. Com buzzfeed. Go online, buzzfeed. Com. Guys, thank you so much. Really appreciate it. It was a lot of fun. Im peter ogborn sit fog for bill press. Going to take a quick break and be right back for one quick last segment. Announcer this is the bill press show. Live on your radio and current tv. vo she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. Ok, so theres wiggle room in the ten commandments, thats what youre saying. vo shes joy behar. Current will let me say anything. [ theme ] announcer this is the bill press show. Live on your radio and current tv. Peter it is the bill press show. The full court press. My name is peter ogborn sitting in for bill today. Many thanks to our guests that joined us today. Igor volsky, cindy boren the lee brothers, very lively conversation over what the definition of grits are. We just finished up with john stanton and Roger Gastman. Seriously, if youre in the d. C. Area, check out the corcoran. I havent been yet to this pump me up exhibit that looks at d. C. In the 80s but im dying to get down there. Get down there and check that out. Lots of good stuff coming up today. It is going to be very interesting to see what happens what progresses with this bob menendez story. We talked about it earlier about the fact that the daily caller had, on video, not a confession but a story from a prostitute that said that she had been visited by bob menendez. It turns out as was reported by the Washington Post,

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