Pokers into him all the time killed him so blissed doesnt mean to me to be happy anymore. But its in the book in the book is really more of a medical recounting of his life. So theres much similarity, the chaos of the time that were in now, the extreme factions in, parties give us a sense that the country is divided in many ways and garfield worked hard on uniting different parties. He was piecemeal worker. Ive become a peacemaker in our town. I certainly am a peacemaker in our family and my dad certainly was that in the life that he led the Roosevelt School recently founded here brings focus to civics. And ive learned much because im one of the very new members in in the society of what this school intends to do. And i just think its one of the best things ive heard about in a long time. Civics was taught when i was young. I its evaporated and our sense of responsibilities for our freedoms are missing in many cases. So i think what just like to say that garfields presidency for me was more about values of how to live your life, work hard and take care of others. There was a lot of modesty in our in our house we were never patted on the head for doing well every day. We were assumed that we would go out, work hard and not need a lot of attention. I think its because it was a pack of us in the house and my dad ran a school we all went to so we couldnt be recognized. But nevertheless, i think that is the most important thing is James Abraham garfield came from nothing my dad pretty much came from nothing at the point of coming out of the depression. And he worked hard and put good kids out in the world. So thats what i look back to, is because it was a very short presidency, is the values that were there. Thank you. Hi, my name is james earl carter, the fourth i was born at the end of february, 1977, a month inauguration at bethesda Naval Hospital in my first home was white house until came. Yeah. So my experience is a little bit different than some of the other descendants. My president ial ancestors being alive still and my having grown and been around when he president and for the amazing that he has had so i feel like ive been blessed and then i have a kind of behind the scenes view of history like you can almost touch it. Yeah. I have see the Carter Library on june 1st of this year posted a picture on instagram of me meeting tip oneill. When i was four months old. And you know, the caption is on this day, june 1977, jimmy carter, tip oneill to have dinner. And in the residence of the white house. And so its, you know, my mom holding me in front of tip oneill and were meeting i also have pictures of me with anwar sadat at at camp david, i believe, was on one of his preliminary visits not on the big working visit that ended up in the accords, but so i have that those are, of course, pictures and not memories because i was so young. But i do have of being in certain where you could almost touch the history. One of our Family Vacations we take every year i was at one point because a somali warlord was on the phone and wanted to talk to my grandfather and so he had to run off. We were in the middle of Yellowstone Park and had to run off and find a secure phone somewhere and he was gone. You know, the rest of that day and things like that happened fairly often. And we always kind of expected that and took it in stride because thats just the way it was. I also in the year 2000 and bill clintons last year in office, he the family to come back to the white house and spend the night on the original plan was that he would be there to meet us and then he had another thing that he had to go do. And hillary was off somewhere else already and was not there. So we were just going to, you know, have the white house to ourselves. No. I mean, no, bill clinton is not known for being timely and holding a schedule. So in this case, we benefited that because he decided that he was going to have dinner with us. And then after dinner, he and my grandfather sat around the table in the solarium. Me and my cousin josh and talked about middle east and african Foreign Policy for an hour and a half and was during the time that clinton was trying to build a peace accord between palestine and israel. And the discussion which i wont go into was, i mean, amazing. I was just in awe the entire time both of them had encyclopedic knowledge of all the issues from all of the various countries that they went even down to the level of knowing the name of the staffer on the ground that you know for instance in some of the african countries where the Carter Center had staff my grandfather who was in charge of what that program and, that country which i pretty proud, i was like, yeah, you know, good job. And then clinton would come and say the name the staffer in the embassy that was in charge of that specific issue. And that thing which which was just incredible. And it was every single country. It was like, okay, have your person get in with this person and well, well work it out. I mean, it was just it was such a display of like intellectual but also history being right there behind the scenes, Current Events like happening and kind of getting look at it in a way that no one else did really. I mean. The very few people knew what was going on behind the scenes. So that is my experience. Im particularly blessed not only. I chose the right parents. But just because my family, the way my grandfather is he is not, you know, pretentious. Hes very down to earth and family is the most important thing. So the family has been there for everything that he has done, you know, all of it. He was never afraid to invite family members to come on important things when the people who had invited him not necessarily expected for other family members to come, but, you know, that was just the way he is with his family. I want to thank. The Roosevelt School. You this has been great event. Ive learned a lot. And i just think theyve done a wonderful with the house and i have never been to this part of new york it is beautiful and im glad here thank you. Okay. Well, thank you. Is this live now youre hearing me . Yes, you can hear me. You, everybody. That. That was great. So now its your chance out there to ask any us, anything you want to, and maybe well even answer you so. Go ahead. So. Have that i you that is to be president. Im just wondering how dad is how grandma is and whats going on. Do you contact them and get in touch with them frequently and see them well before yeah we did family dinners at the Carter Center for all the family that lived in the atlanta. And we did them about once a month, sometimes they werent able to make or whenever, but about once a month. So we got to see them a lot. And then once covid hit. They were in planes, their house and you nobody in the family wanted to be the ones that actually, you know, killed them. And that you thats not what you want really. So so we havent seen them as much since then. But my dad, who is chip. Yeah he goes down to plains a couple of days every week and sees them now we keep in touch through him. Its now to the where you know, the secret service in plains have a covid machine so they can do tests pretty instantly so we can now go visit and so okay. First let me point out, by the way, cspan is filming this and taking the microphone. You are giving a sent to cspan to film this. So you dont want to be filmed by cspan. Dont ask a question and also lets wait. When you get ready to ask the question, why wait . We can get you a microphone. So okay, well, start with the lady back there. Hold on a second. Theyll bring you the microphone. Thank you. And congratulations to president klein for creating this fabulous for our community. Im victoria steppes, publisher, the Long Island Press and a few other media and 88, to be exact, to tell you too much about me but i did want to ask you know i read ulysses grants autobiography biography and i know he wrote it to be able to support his after his death. And im wondering, are you still getting royalty . Is. That no one has ever asked that before, but in fact, im retired and i have a pension but there was a trust and in my grandfathers will, he said the money from s grants memoirs is still there and is still generating interest for the family. I dont know how much is, but so its still supporting me. And i would also say that his memoirs, i think, are the single greatest he did in his lifetime because in less than a year he wrote 600 page book while dying of cancer in constant pain and earned 450,000 in 1885. Cash for family. And julia did not spend it all. I always up assuming she just spent it all, but apparently she just lived on the interest and it for her family so its an extraordinary thing. His death is a theres actually a whole book about his death called about its about grants by louis and but death is a great epic you could write an opera about it except. He was tone deaf so that would be a waste of time. Okay. Okay. Well get to you in a minute. Hi, allie mazower and im actually with state university, new york, but i know dr. Klein, president klein for years and just shes incredible so its great to be here. I run a program for young women to become leaders and theyre from disadvantaged, underserved communities. Theyre doing amazing things. Were in 10th year. So the question i always is, what advice would you give to Young Leaders, young people becoming leaders, and maybe particularly if you had any advice or wisdom for young women to become Global Leaders and addressed it, somebody ill look at i can i just Say Something to that because i think its one thing that i think is really important is that we try and resist the the desire to look at what happened in 1922 1822 1892 through a lens of 2022. Its not one problem. All president s have had. And i believe all president s shall have as long as they are human and at that and that is is you know, theyre going to air theyre going to make mistakes. And to take to take certain things that, for a perfect example, Grover Cleveland did not think women should vote. Grover clevelands wife not think women should vote. She did change her mind later on. But you know that was thats why studying history is so important. It wasnt just like here was this guy who just had this, like, stupid idea, you know, it was there was a reason it so this is why the study history is so important and so we can understand better and understanding history better. Were to understand whats going on and just tell them, go for it. Dont no matter. How many times people tell you to stop . Keep going. And ill also add to that that well, heres a tr story. Itll first part of itll make you cringe. When tr was a youngish man out in the west, he made a comment at some point talking about native americans saying, well, you know, people the only good indian is a dead indian. And he said, well, in my view, it says maybe a nine times out of ten. Thats true and maybe even a little suspicious of the 10th. So that was a statement he made early on later in life, much in life, he developed a much more, uh, sort of balanced view of the problem of native americans and so on. And did a lot for native americans. So even a book, the five friends of the American Indians or Something Like that, and hes one of them. So the whole issue then is of course, particularly somebody like tr, but most president s in their views evolved over life and our views have evolved and thats got to be taken into consideration. And so it annoys me when, you know, somebody says something about a particular particularly. Tr that, oh, he was a, you know, he hated the or whatever. So its the job of the teachers of this country to teach. And i think on the most part, theyre doing okay. But weve got to help them. One, one thought. Ive raised daughters 21 and 23, and i continue raise them right that the jobs never over in comfort it is the one word that comes to me of when theyve started to shine and and and become leaders in their own right. Its when they had the confidence without confidence its they werent going as far and the other thing is being able to shut down social media and just not let Noise Control who you are you just once can get over that maturity level. Then i think they they then become their own person and theyre not become a person they think they want to be that becoming they want to be and thats that that would be a key thing for these young ladies that are trying to branch out to become Young Leaders confidence and avoid the noise of social media. I would add a couple of things. One is to not be afraid to go and ask, you know, what can i do in government or or i went to a work study college, but any small job when youre young will teach you how organized work. And i do think to your point that life is a perpetual confidence game. You know, some people seem to have it right out of the box, but i didnt turn. You have to learn to speak up. And i think there are innate in many personalities. People that dont know they even want to lead, but they like to make decisions and take responsibility and theyre not to try new things. So im let me just introduce myself. First of all. Thank you. I am elise levine. Dr. Elise levine and i am the director of the master of Public Policy at the Roosevelt School and im not going to pass up this opportunity. T were on cspan. Um we talk about leadership. We talk education, we talk about gender, um, we talk about education. Um Public Policy and civics at a graduate level, even undergraduate come to the Roosevelt School. Please think, about the opportunities that young people can have today across all demographics, across all different, different demographics different upbringing, different social statuses. The mpa program, the master policy. Um, that we are so pleased to start and i thank dr. Klein and vp randy bird for allowing us to bring the master of Public Policy to the Roosevelt School. Were very excited to be part of it and to bring academics to this already wonderful wonderful platform. Thank you. Thank you very much. Were delighted to have. Thank you. Let me tell you, were delighted to have you. Okay. Whos next . The equipment behind you. Then well come back. Go back. Hi, rob lamb. Just a question. I have you have the Roosevelt School and ship of james jr, the fourth. I have the library. But what avenues do descendants utilize than forums like this to, you know, get out the messages that you want to get out about your descendent and leadership. Well, there a Ulysses S Grant president ial library which is at Mississippi State university, which is a fascinating story. Im on the board of that and they have become, amazingly enough, Mississippi State university has become one of the centers of civil war studies and politics of the second half of the 19th century because of that interest. And its drawing young scholars, male and female, the new executive director, a woman professor at msu. And so that didnt exist before there, was a huge collection of papers that were sort of being privately published over the last 50 years. And now this public institution, supported by a school by the way, tweed in a huge way that has really made a lot of it possible. So thats thats one way and its become an enormous for people who want to sort of find the truth in the archives as to listening to what people say on, social media. So thanks for bringing that up as a question. Anyone else on that . So i the way we got we got somebody from pennsylvania week looking at that my. So so im Bertram Taylor im a great grandson of Rutherford B Hayes and im on the leadership question on the leadership question that was just i participate with the hermitage, which is the Andrew Jackson museum and and they run a program called the president s of america, which i participated in for a couple of years. And they get number of speakers from congressmen in tennessee and and leaders. And its High School Students come and its a weeklong camp and they get all these speakers that speak for an hour and it helps them to gain confidence to to learn. You know, i teach them a little bit about my great great grandfather, but but also the principles of leadership. I think its important know, you know, i go through like Colin Powells statements. I mean, its lonely to be leader, you know, theyve got to be prepared for that. They also have to be good follower it to learn how to be good in the group and they have to have the confidence to do something. But there are programs out i think this is a fairly new thing future president s of america and i think the Benjamin Harrison library started and its starting to go around. So so look for it. It might catch on. Okay. Can i say that one other if two events that are going on, first of all, is the civics day that we mentioned thats going to be growing by leaps and bounds to get the word out. There is also an organization called, National History day and it is stronger in some states than it is in others. But it goes and gets kids in the schools to create projects multimedia projects about something of historical value and it gets them involved. I was the keynote speaker at national the new york National History day out in cooperstown some years back. And it was i was in a gym with 500 kids screaming like it was a pep rally and my question to them was, how many of you are to go home from here today into your town and have the fire truck escort you back into town . How many of are going to be welcomed at the Mayors Office like the Football Team is . Its weve got to build that up. There is no h in stem. Unfortunately and weve got to get that a little more in the in my humble opinion. You got it right. Yes. Im cindy phifer and i work for the international of first ladies for peace. So theres always some nice first ladies behind these wonderful, too. But what i wanted to ask is with grant, you said you didnt want to admit you were with him. And i you know, they won the war. And so i was wondering what was behind that why you had to wait to admit that you were with. I was curious. So how much time do we have here so. Well the short of it is that even by once he died and as the tomb was being built, which was a struggle, theres a whole book about that. Uh, the reunification of the country after the ceasing of reconstruct. And a large part of that was very conscious political effort to undermine his legacy to build up robert elys legacy this was conscious and its very well documented and it did not. I mean, robert e lee died first, but he, he would have had no part of it. But was done without either of them being a participant. But Frederick Douglass watched it happening, and it happened well into the 20th century. And so his and the very the earliest biographies of us grant were written by confederates who were not known confederates then, but were southerners who were history according to the mythology they had been learning and promoting and so by the time by the time my grandfather was the military was in world war two, grants legacy was butchery and drunkenness. And he was a bad president. He was not. He was a stupid president. He was not he was much higher in his west point ranks than people acknowledged. But all of this negative mythology had been built up and no one had ever, including the mcfeely. I have never read the mcfeely biography of grant because its so that i dont want to read it because. And my grandfather wrote his own biography of his grandfather. His grandfather dedicated to his three daughters, including my mother, saying, need to set the record straight. Most of it has been false from up until this point. And thats in 1969. So so thats why i grew up with that and thats why i dont think he knew how to talk to me. Plus, i also think there were things that my grandfather was not a perfect person either and i wont go into that. But he had the prejudices of his time and i dont think he knew how. Talk about any of that to a 12 year old, which is what i was when he died. But so i think thats but something you said about the first ladys my first entree into u. S. Grant history is reading her memoirs, which are published in the 1970s at the behest of my mother and her sisters, because she didnt want published in her lifetime, because she didnt well, probably because she didnt want to eat into profits from his memoirs, which had been keeping her comfortable. But she also didnt want to take away the the light on him. And she fortunately died before it. Too unpleasant. But her memoirs and her extraordinary insight into what i think is of the great president ial couples in the history of this country, as great as and abigail adams, at least. And i really want them to make a movie about that but but not a musical. So we have time for one more question. Lets say, okay, to do as well as, you know, make it right has no then written a balance account of oh, a lot. I mean. Ron chernow yeah, but a lot of other people ive read a lot of biographical books on us. Grant theres a book simpson wrote a great book on reconstruction. So, you know, theres been a lot of writing. Thats why i say its a i feel a lot better about now. Its a great moment to be descended from you as grant, but it was not when i was a child. Theres one back there. I think you had your hand up. Nope. Okay. Back there. It french. Are you going to Say Something. High then . Krista felt the Art Department faculty. Can you talk a. The relationship between mark twain and and grant. They were very good friends. Twain created the book that made grant all that money. He did not write one word of that memoir no matter what youve heard, its the manuscript exists. Its all in u. S. Grants hand. Its all handwritten in pencil, and its in the library of congress. So. But twain really went to grant. Theyre ripping you off these jerk. But my son in law is to have a publishing house, and ill give you the best deal ever, which ultimately probably bankrupted his son in law. But thats not even the but so but you know it its funny because if you read the gilded age, the original book by mark twain from, 1873, not first real novel, but not any. Its a collaboration, but not his best book. One of his most interesting books. He sort of makes fun of u. S. Grant as the head of this corrupt government in the 1870s. But he changes his tune and becomes really close friend toward the end of grants life. So im really sorry that were going to have to cut this off now. Obviously we have gone on longer, but its thats where we are so i want to thank everybody for coming i want to thank my fellow for what theyve done. I want to remind people those all people are welcome. Go to the silent auction in the room next door and bid. If youre not for dinner and you want bid. I said this earlier to the but everybodys here now. If you want to bid, youre not staying for dinner. You better bid. I if you want the if you want it and tell the staff in there, give them a phone number or something so they can call you for those who are staying to dinner. You can pass through that room and then youll be shown on to where the cocktail shows are. And thank you, cspan. Thank you cspan. Thank you. Thank. And well adjourn the meeting. Thank you all for we appreciate all right. Well, hello and welcome, everybody. Thats good seeing you here today at the American Civil War museum in appomattox for todays program, i im pleased to introduce our guest, author dr. Ken rutherford. Ken rutherford, ph. D. , is professor in the department of Political Science at James Madison university. He cofounded the Landmine Survivors Network and escorted princess dianahe