Very dangerous person. Why is he doing this . What is the connection to the russians that is making him do this . You can see this Health Care Forum with house leader nancy pelosi in the entirety in the cspan library, and go to cspan. Org and type nancy pelosi in the search tab. We are going to leaf this program here for a live briefing by the house intelligence chair, congressman devin nunes over the russian developments. I want to for mallize the process more, and i know that we had several press scrums that a lot of you attended and i wanted to attend it and make it a press availability, and i dont know if you want the do it every week or this week, but i am looking forward to taking your questions and i will open it up for you. And can you say categorically, that there were no contacts whatsoever between any official affiliated with the russian government and the Trump Campaign . Not that i am aware of. We have not seen any evidence of anybody from the Trump Campaign or any other campaign for that matter that has communicated with the russian government. And also, why would you agree to talk to reporters at the behest of the white house knowing that you are still looking into this matter . Yeah. So, that is a story that is odd, i thought. Because if you are asking me to contact the white house and say, hey, can you set me up with somebody at d. O. D. Or the intelligence agencies i would say sure. So it is a kind of an odd story, i thought. And it is compromised in any way or the fact that you have already made the decision how is that compromised if im trying to be transparent with the press, and if the white house asks me to talk to a reporter which by the way it was one, one reporter. I dont know if the white house asked me to talk to you, and you would think that is okay or not okay . What is your response to that . Well, what is your response . Well, you are investigating this matter, and the white house is urging you to knock down these stories that are no, no. That did not happen. That absolutely did not happen. And the russian government, and is there anything that you have learned in the course of this investigation that really conflicts with the public reporting . Well, if you are looking at what has happened, theres been major crimes that have been committed. What i am concerned about is this no one is focusing on major leaks that have occurred here, and so, you know, right after the leak of the transcript that President Trump had with the australian ambassador, i mean, the australian Prime Minister and i was in contact with the australian ambassador and the white house, and the appropriate agenci agencies, because we cant run a government like this. A government cannot function with massive leaks at the hi highest level of our president talking to foreign leaders. And that is what i think is one of the focuses that you all should be concerned about, because these are high level leaks. How big is the circle of individuals who have access to those transcripts . Well, this is out of, you know, i didnt realize this, but evidently, the way i understand the process is that the last administration had it set up to go down to the state department and the ic, and perhaps any other stakeholders within the ns are c or a nsc or other people in the white house, and that clear ly got ou, but how are foreign leaders going to talk to president if they dont believe that in is not leaked to the press. And just a follow up on the question, because you said no contacts with the russian government and as i am assure, there are many russian businessmen and ole gashg oliga report back to the kremlin, and have you eliminated that posability that the people that the trump advisers were speaking with have connections with the russian government even if they are not officially working with the russian government. Let me make it clear that we have not eliminated anything. What i want to do is before we go after american citizens and bring them before the legislative branch of government, it is not because they appeared in a news story somewhere, but as of you are still investigating then communications between Trump Campaign advisers and russian, and u. S. Intelligence i would not limit it to trump only or trump officials, and i would say that it is also any contacts with any political candidates anywhere at any level include ing ing in the united s or in foreign, in other foreign countries. Are you saying that there were clinton advisers speaking to russians no, no, no. Well, lets discuss that. Sgllt no evidence of that and nor any evidence that i have been presented of trump advisers speaking of the russians and we do know for a long time that the russians have been very interested in manipulate ing in election, and manipulating the press and very good at the propaganda and so that is what caused me a year ago to come out and criticize the intelligence agencies for the largest intelligence failure since 9 11 because of the lack of good intelligence that we were getting on putins plans and intentions. And so, i am, that is why i really appreciate the amount of press that showed up here today, because, you know, we do need to have some scrutiny put on to the russian government, and we do need to know if there are any americans who are talking to the russians, and anybody connected to the russian government or russian agents, but at this time, i want to be very careful that we cant just go on a witch hunt against americans because they have appeared in a news story somewhere. By americans do you mean Michael Flynn of the nsa. Any american . Well, are you referring specifically to director flynn . Well, there were three americans of which only name i know is man na forafort and the two i dont know but they appeared in a news story, and the questions that we had ten days ago when that story broke for many of you who attended the different press availabilities that i had, is the question of whether or not we were going to investigate those americans, and at this point, here at the committee, we still dont have any evidence of them talking to russians. And do you have all of the evidence at this point that you expect to receive or that you are are still in the preliminary stages of receiving and reviewing the evidence . Well, we are working on, and we have the scoping of our investigation finished. And then we are going to move into actually receiving the evidence, but as of right now, the initial inquiries that i have made to the appropriate agencies, i dont have any evidence. I want to be clear here so that the fbi specifically told you that they have found no contacts between the Trump Associates and russian officials. And okay. We are not going to be saving the whole i. C. Here, and get specific to one agency here, but as of right now i dont have any evidence that would of any phone calls, and it does not mean they dont exist, but dont have that, and what i have been told by many folks is that theres nothing there. But you are still look into it. Absolutely, and we want the information, but i cant call in american it citizens with no information. And are you saying that there is no contact with the russians and are you referring to contacts with manafort and contact with the ukrainians and other [ inaudible ]. Yeah, i think that specifically, this is going to be on the contacts with any association whatsoever to any anyone even with within the realm of the russianle inth realm of the russianle inte rus intelligence apparatus. And you said many people, and can you tell us who no sh, i will not get into specific conversations that i i have had with the executive branch. And the appropriate agencies, but i will say that we have long had a very good process the congress here where we have the gang of eight. When Counter Intelligence issues arise, they brief us on those cou Counter Intelligence issues, and we keep them, because they are oftentimes involve american citizen, and i believe it is important to keep that it way when those investigations are ongoing, but many this cain thi relates to campaign oischials s if Campaign Officials dealing with the russians, we dont have anything. And why are you told specifically to investigate whether there are any links between the campaigns and are russia. Well, unlike what has been reported, we have a had a long Ongoing Investigation into russian activities. I would have preferred for that not to be out and talked about in public, but you may have remembered from the last several years, we are concerned about the russian cyber activities and remain kenned about those activities. Since the election, we have bro broadened the scope of the investigation to include any involvement in this elections here, and of course, any ties that there might be to any government officials at any level so it ist not just here in washington, but governors and others. If there is anything out, there and any american it citizens fr the political campaigns coordinating with the russian government, we clearly would want to know that and we want to investiga investigate. And a followup. Have you seen the transcripts of the phone calls with the russians . No, i have been briefed on them, and it would be unusual and unprecedented for us to have get transcripts that were illegally leaked out, and discussed for us to have those here in congress. I this they we have to be very careful about the legislative branch of government getting fisawarranted communications and that we start combing through private conversations on american it citizens having, ane have to be very careful where we go with this. And is there any concern that you were [ inaudible ]. No, i think that what it appears to me like is that there seems to be a difference of the russian sanctions are to people like myself and when i think of russian sanctions, i think of dealing with crimea, and dealing with the invasion of ukraine by the russians and the sanctions that we have put into place working with the allies of the eu and others and then what happened right at the time the after christmas when president obama kicked some Russian Diplomats out, and i dont consider that to be sanctions. [ inaudible ]. Russian sanctions on the global stage and most of the meetings that i have with foreign leaders and they revolve around russian sanctions that is what we are e fering to. And when president obama kicked out a few diplomats and number one, it was way too late, and number two, it was extremely weak, and number three, the russian government did not respond to it, because it was so ridiculous. And when the white house asked you about talking to the reporter, did you know that they had also asked senator burr to do the same thing and that it appeared to you as some sort of a coordinated effort to push back . No, i mean, if anything, if anything it was the opposite. Many of you who were around ten days ago, you know that i took your questions as it related to the New York Times piece as related to three americans and whether or not we had information or not. So i had already talked to many of you about that several times, both in press scrums and also on the individual interviews. And so, by the time all it was was a White House Communications person passing a number and name of a reporter over for me to talk to them following up on what i had already told all of you in the days before that. So i am not sure how you generate a press story out of that, but i cannot control what you write. And as a fbi, are you saying they have not supplied you with the evidence or that you have no eviden evidence. It is not important which agency, but the intelligence agencies have not provided me any information about the three americans communicating with the russians. And so they have not told you and it does not exist is a difference there . It sounds like to me that it has been looked into, and there is knotting of evidence there, and obviously, we would like to know if there is, and then it is pretty serious, and then it would be the intelligence agencies then misleading congress. Which opens up a whole another problem. And what about the named special pros ecutor to take it away of a politics anyway . Well, we are the legislative branch of government, and elected and the history of the special prosecutors is mixed and at this point, what are we going the appoint a special prosecutor to do exactly . To chase stories of american citizens that end up in newspaper articles . I mean, that is right now, look, if at some point we have serious crimes that have been committed, it would be something that we could consider, but at this point, we dont have, that and the only serious crimes we have are leaks that have come out of our government to the press and others. Yes . Can you give us an update on what and the fbi and well, i wrote the letter, and obviously, it is a classified letter, and there is classified version and unclassified version, and we are expecting answers to that. We will have briefings this week and next week, and those briefings will continue. Is your committee committing resources to investigate the leaks . Well, as anything, we cant, and it is just like similar to us not having any evidence of who of these american citizen s that were allegedly talking to the russian, we also dont know exactly who would have known about general flynn. And now, the good thing about fisa and the way it works is that there should be a record of who in the government knew about general flynn talking to the Russian Ambassador, and from there we should be able to know who is in the realm of the possible of who we need to talk to. And can i ask you, who the decision of the last administration would have unmasked flynn and was it appropriate . We dont know yet, and that is a very good question, and some of the, i think that that we should be able to find. We should find out who within the executive branch knew about the initial conversation, and then who went to who to get flynns name unmasked, and that should be a realtive hly small number of people. And please. And when the Intelligence Community begins presenting evidence to you, is that evidence to be turned over to the committee or continue to be housed in the Intelligence Committee . Well, that is one of the contentious issues of where the ininformation is housed. Some here, and some apt the agencies. Have you heard anything about anyone in the white house directing mr. Poin to discuss with the russian am bbassadors . Look, the whole issue is general flynn is an american war hero and put together one of the greatest military machines in the history and providing the intelligence to basically eliminate al qaeda from iraq, and he was the National Security adviser designee, and taking multiple calls a day from ambassadors from foreign leaders and look, i nknow this, because the foreign leaders were contacting me trying to get in touch with the transition team, and folks that wanted to meet with President Trump or president elect trump and Vice President elect pence. Did the prkt trump at the time tell flynn to talk about i find it hard to believe, because they were so busy. And these conversations were very short and yes, sir. And can you finalize and release the scope of the investigation, and also, do you plan to coordinate with the senate side to have joint well, we are separate bodies, but we will, so we will have a scoping document that we have that should bep approved and i believe it is finished now. And then probably just have some brief outlines of what we are looking at. And look, you guys all know what we are going to be looking at. It is not rocket science. And so would you coordinate with the senate to look up the records i would not rule it out. I would not rule it out, but we will try to work with the senate where possible, but i view this as a two separate branchs of the legislative branch of government. Yes . Is there a difference between the white house asking you to call a reporter, and asking the fbi to knock down a particular story . Well, look, i dont believe that the first of all, i believe that the white house talking to, and having a reporter, and if the Reporter Asks the white house, and whatever the story is about, and as it relates to the fbi, i believe what happened with the white house as i understand it in my limited conversations that i have had i think it is an obvious question that one would ask, if there is no evidence here, can krou talk about it . And the fbi of course normally does not talk about leaks, and whether or not they are investigating or not, and other issues of who is under investigation, and it is pretty standard for the fbi not to comment on this. That is pretty unusual if they do comment, and so, obviously, when so i dont know how true that story is. I would go to the white house, and ask what conversations actually occurred, but i dont believe very many and they were simple. And to give us an idea of how far along you are in starting this investigation. And just to make sure that you understand what caused me to go out a year ago to say that the biggest intelligence failure since 9 11 is the failure to understand putins plans and intentions and what caused that is that we were constantly investigating the russian problems. So we are adding additional things that we are looking at which include, which will include the election issues. And how many people were when you say that there is no evidence right now of the russian contacts with the campaign official, and you also say that you are in the scope gathering process of the investigation well, no, we are putting together a scope to working bipartisan with my counter part mr. Shif to make sure that we are on the election as it relates to the election, but look, we have always been very, very interested in what the russian s as are up to, and so is basically part of the Ongoing Investigation, they was hopeful that never would have been out in the press like it s but now it is, and now we are expanding the scope of the investigation to include what we will look at in terms of the election, but in eterms of the evidence, some wev and some evidence we do have, and obviously looking to the more evidence, but most importantly as it relates to the american citizens, and if you have neamerican citizens who ar talking to the russian agenciea, and you know the names and you want to be a whistle blower yourself, then come to my office. And you would have more evidence or information as the week goes on . Yes, we will continue to take evidence and follow the facts where they lead. How extensive was the obama administrations tapping of the just flynn or aing are y a regular process of listening in to what president ul trump was doing. Well, to me it was just mr. Flynn and somebody higher up in the government had to do that or multiple people and we are very concerned as to who that was and what laws did they decide to unmask general flynns name. And follow up, if there was ongoing contact with the russians and the Trump Campaign, wouldnt other names pop up inadvertently, and so if this is the only incident that opopped up, would it knock down the idea that there was regular contact. Look, there is no evidence that i have been presented of regular contact of anybody within the Trump Campaign, and the only one that is obvious is the general flynns discussions with the russians and i would still contend that he is doing what he is supposed to do which is to prepare thet president elect for office by getting as many leaders in front of him as possible. If i may ask, what is the major crime for the leakers to discuss clas ified information relating to these communications and elsewhere . Why is it not inappropriate for the white house and you and senator burr to call reporters and give your own interpretation of again continuing investigation that involves classified intelligence . Isnt that a counter leak as it were. You are still discussing the investigation. I would never talk about a classified information with any of you, because that would be a crime. But the message that was coming from you and others is that we have looked at the information and there is nothing there, and that is relating to the Ongoing Investigation, and it is based on at the core classified information about contacts between right. There is no release of cl classified information in that. I am a little confused by the question, because either you, i mean, the white house has been critical of a lot of you, and so now here you have the white house trying to communicate with many of you, and trying to communicate with the congress about what they are doing, and now sh, suddenly, that is wrong. There is nothing wrong with that. If you are looking at the last administration, and i think that if a lot of the democrats were being honest with you, they know that the relationship between the last white house and congress was extremely poor. What we are trying to do is to have a very good working relationship with the executive branch of government at all levels. So i would anticipate that, hoping that we have more coordination with the white house and agencies and that we have actually on a separate branch of government and conducting rigorous oversight. Which i have been, look, very clear, if i find out that Reince Priebus was talking to, you know, russian agents, you can bet that Reince Priebus will be getting a subpoena and appear before the congress. Mr. Chairman, jim comey, the fbi director was on the senate side right before the recess cut and called a hearing and has he appeared before the committee and in some capacity asked him to come . Yes, we have had discussions within the fbi members and i do suspect they are going to be briefing us again this week or the next. Yes, sir, back there . You ingagree with general paulsen that is so way ahead of my pay grade. I dont know what the attorney general would recuse himself from . They are calling on him because of the relationship with the Trump Campaign that he would need to right. The way this works is that, you know, if the fbi is at some point conducting an investigation, they would have to go to the appropriate authorities to get a warrant to do something, and snars i know, no as far as i know, nup one o that has happened. In concern to Reince Priebus, do you have any concerns of him trying to bat down stories of this given the clear restrictions. And look, you need to ask them, but i think that have been very clear. The fbi reg ularly briefsette both branchs of the government. They would brief the president , Vice President , and chief of staff and any other appropriate personnel in the same way they brief the senate and the house. So it would not be unusual in any of those cases for us to make requests of the fbi or any other intelligence agencies, yes. And a in terms of the briefings has anything in the trump dossier been verify ied . Not that i am aware of. And you said that it is not about knocking down reports, but what are they suggesting . Le le with that, is a good point. You guys were the ones that were there and as a matter of fact i think that you were there and i spoke to you the morning of the story breaking, and i was very clear with all of you about what i thought about that New York Times story, and this is way in advance of the white house send meg one phone number and i still dont know what is the prob el lem of the white house sending me a number of a press person to call, and isnt the whole issue of the press to be transparent, and you want to talk to me, and that is why i wanted to create the press availability today to talk to all of you and versus more organized than you chase meg around in press scrums. And in the white house and no, no, no. It is this person wants to talk about the New York Times story, and then i got the number and i called the reporter. And mr. Chairman on the flynn phone call, i am not sure that i fully understand the distinction between the ukraine sanction, and the sanctions that president obamap opposed, because it is not just kicking out the diplomats and let me describe it bluntly. Are you contractors that participated in the hacking, and i guess that the question is that if general flynn telegraphed to the Russian Ambassador that those sanctions whether whether or not you think that they were serious enough or Strong Enough would be eased or lifted, would that not be the well, okay. So let me be very clear. I think that just when i apply common sense to this. This is not sanctions. They were petty and not taken seriously by anybody who knows this. Any conversation of russian sanctions with the allies, it is always about the russian sanctions dealing with the invasion of ukraine. You realize that there were sanctions imposed. Look, you can call them that if you want. But i would not call them that. That is what they were called by the white house. Did general flynn in any way suggest to the Russian Ambassador that he didnt have to worry that Vladimir Putin didnt have to worry about the sanctions, because President Trump would either ease or lift them . Well, i think that the if the discussions occurred around ensuring that there was no overreaction by the russian government so that the new administration could do like all of the other previous administrations who believe they can work with putin and all three are wrong and they cannot work with putin, and if that is what general flynn did was to try to keep the lines of Communications Open and to see that the russians didnt overreact and maybe have some reciprocal attacks on our diplomats or other embassies around the world, that did us a big favor and we should be thanking him and not going after him. It sounded like he was telling the Russian Ambassador, dont worry about what the president just announced, because we will do Something Different when we get i dont know what was said and if that was said, i dont know the problem with that, because that is exactly what he should be doing. Isnt that one u. S. Administration and you want to investigate on the logan act. You are the logan act guy . And look, it is ridiculous, and you all know that is ridiculous. Yes, sir . Do you plan to release subpoena President Trumps tax returns . No. No, we are not going to do that. And can you talk about recusing yourself and if i understood correctly, you said i dont know why he should, because you dont know of any investigation going on, and well, there is no evidence to go after anyone at this point is my point. At that point, it is up to the attorney general and others. Is the fbi not investigating these leaks. The fbi should always be investigating leaks, and i would hope that they are taking the leaks that have occur oefrd the last couple of months seriously and i hope they are investigatingk but look, they are not going to comment on those, and nor should they. And also, if you are looking into the is that well, it is all rolled into the investigation. Any other new questions . Just can your democratic colleagues are not here at the briefing today and we understand that they were not a aware of this happening, and how should the americans be confident of this happening. Well with, the whole reason for me calling this press availability is that i did not want to have like we had in the last week where there were multiple press scrums and i oftentimes had to continue to repeat myself, and then, as i saw these stories roll out, i looked at all of this and i said, this is not possibly true, because i was open and transparent with all of you and willing to go on the record right away about what had happened or not happened with the New York Times story and what i knew at the time. And so i wanted to make sure that what i am trying to do is to bring to this more transparency so that we can have a normal engagement with all of you. Thats regularly scheduled in advance for two reasons. One, so it is all on the record so you know that we are being transparent, but two, i dont like to have to are repeat myself all week on the same thing. Mr. Chairman, this has been in the news also is north korea and what is yours assessment of how large of a threat is north korea and how it relates to russia . Well, the north korean regime is unhinge and long unhinged and the closer they goat the ability to not only detonate a nuclear weapon, but also deliver that nuclear weapon, we have to take that seriously, because for a long time, this is not a regime thats, that would, you know, by any stretch of the imagination, you can have actual negotiations with. It also is one of the biggest travesties on the planet when people find out what is happening in north korea where you have probably 20 Million People living like animals, i think that we should all be concerned about it, and somebody who is unhinged as the north korean dictator, and we should all be concerned about it, and so should the chinese and the russians and others. And how does that compare to russia . Well, the question will be with, you know, whether or not can there be a, can there be a new relationship with the russian government, and this administration wants to attempt to try to that, and im skeptical of that. But to be fair to them, president obama tried. President bush try and so did president clinton when putin was put in office. Have the russian cyber activity continued since the election and if so, what is the intensity and more sanctions to well, the important thing to know about, and as you know the house Intelligence Committee for several years has been very active on the scyber threats. If you are looking at, one thing that you should assume a is that the russians and the chinese are very, very good at their cyber activities and most of the time, we wont even know that they are there. And they continue to expand the capabilities, and we, of course, there is all sorts of Antivirus Companies out there, and people are watching the threat, but look, everybodys communications are vulnerable, whether it is your email, phone calls or the grid and both the chinese and the russians are activity increase ing ting the cyber att capabilities and we are trying to respond to that. At this point, do you believe that you now know everything that the fbi knows at this point about the intelligence gathering . Look. I always want to know more, but they have been very up front. They have been over to brief us. And hopefully, they will continue to do that. You think it is possible that they have knowing more than they have shared you . Look, i think that they have hit the high points, but we would like to drill into it more to find out if there is anything more . And you said that this is an expansion of the yearlong investigation, and how would you categorize the expansion . The e if gining part of the investigation or what is the scope of the well, i wont get into what weve preferred for this never to have gotten out that we were concerned about the russian activities, okay. It is out there now. What we are doing is to for mallizing a process with my democratic counter part to have a nice scoping document to look at everything as ut relates to the election leaks and everything that has happened say, post, maybe preelection to now. And interesting that is this thor early days and you say that we dont have evidence, and early days and you dont have evidence but some may come in . Well, what i am trying to be cavery careful of here, and i wt to warn all of you that we cant have mccarthyism back in the place. And we cant have the government, the u. S. Government or the Congress Legislative branch of government chasing down american citizen, haul iin them before the congress as if there is some secret russian agents, and this is what i am concerned about here that we dont go on some witch hunt against american citizens, because they appear in a press story somewhere. And you said that you did want the initial investigation to become public and what is the end result, and what are the findings . Public. Publicized. And beyopd that and look, we could just have a likely what is going to happen is that we will have an interim report of some kind that we will put out on what we have, and then, you know, like, oftentimes occurs in the investigations, i would like for the whole issue with the russian investigations to have to stop, and i dont have, as you know from the previous comments that i dont have any faith that putin is going to be negotiating in good faith with us or become an ally or part of the west at any point. And whats aspect of the distrust of the russian government have you shared with the president given the, as you said previous administrations alwaysreset that relationship . Have you expressed your i dont know if i have spoken to the president directly about it. I dont think i have. But clearly all of the advisors around him, i have. Im confused. So, once again you say that the fbi or the intelligence communities have given you the high points of evidence, but you are also saying that you are at the gingham stages of this expansion of an investigation. What else is there to do . Because there is investigations that the executive branch of government does. And then there is investigations that the legislative branch of government will do. So you are confident in your assertion that there is no evidence that these three people talked to russian agents even though you have not done your own investigation into it yet . As of right now, as of right now, we have no evidence but we will continue to ask for evidence and continue the look for evidence not only on the three americans named in the story but also any other american that as any contact with russia first. All right guys, thank you very one more. Are you any closer to understanding, though, why the president is so praise worthy of Vladimir Putin or why he says basically what we do here in america is the same as what he has done in russia . Look im very perplexed by this, as i was perplexed by when george w. Bush looked into putins eyes. That was perplexing. If you look at when president obama was caught to an hot mike saying he was going to have more flexibility after the election. I was perplexed by that. And, look, good president s, three president s in a row have tried to work with the russian government. I think its a its a novell concept. I just dont think its going to work. But President Trump has been very clear with the American People that he is going to try to do that which would make him no different than the last three president s. All right guys. Thank you all very much. Thank you. Byebye. This briefing available on our website at cspan. Org. Search russia and the 2016 elections. Watch cspan has President Donald Trump delivers his first address to a joint session of congress. This congress is going to be the busiest congress weve had in decades. And following his speech, the democratic response given by former Kentucky GovernorSteve Barbier and your reaction to the president s speech along with comments were the members of the congress. Live on tuesday at 9 00 p. M. Eastern on cspan and cspan. Org and listen live on the free c pan radio app. Ahead of tomorrow nights address, democratic miters schumer and pelosi will offer remarks prior to the president s remarks. Live coverage of their News Conference will be at 2 00 p. M. Eastern. 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