Transcripts For CSPAN3 Jerome Corsi The Truth About Energy Global Warming And Climate Change 20221105

Climate change. We have to very eminent authors here with. Us. We have jerome corsi whos published five books on economics history and politics, including to number one new york times. In 1972, he received ph. D. From the department of government at harvard and his current book, truth about Energy Global and Climate Change, was just published. Jerome if you could come up, it would be great. We are also honored to have with Climate Depot publisher marc morano the author of the 2021 book green why the Green New Deal is even worse than you think and the author of the bestselling 2018 book the politically incorrect guide to Climate Change. Hes also the Award Winning producer, writer and host climate hustle, a firm in 2016 and hundreds of us theaters. His newest book, the great reset global elites and the permanent lockdown, was published in august 2022. Mark, if you come up, please, and sit back. Yeah, if you could both take your seats, that would be really. Well, an economist the politics of Climate Change are fascinating to me because as an economist, i know that many the Solutions Just dont add up. And for example, the idea that we have all Battery Powered electric vehicles by 2035 and that auto are committing themselves not to produce the internal Combustion Engine at a time when only 5 of americans are these vehicles is very surprising to me as an economist. Also the idea that certain vehicles and, certain forms of technology are free because they run on batteries when these have to be produced somewhere through electricity. Thats also very surprising. Right now, with the Technology Available and the Technology Insight in the future, these policy objectives just do not add up. In addition, we have many, many millions of people who are below the poverty line in asia, in africa, in latin america, who can only be given the advantages of western electricity, western water, or through conventional fuels. There is no way that solar and wind will be able to lift these individuals up to the standards that we have in the west and. If youve ever lived without Running Water, if youve ever lived without electricity, you know that the avella of electricity and Running Water is just central to health, to the safety of your family, to human flourishing, to potential development. So unless we move to situation where we have massive investment in Nuclear Energy, which is a dense emission free energy, were not going to be able to accomplish the goals of zero emissions. But of battery vehicles and other environmental measures are also against Nuclear Energy. So this is not as much economics question as a political and thats why we are so glad to have these two authors with us today. And in addition theyre going to be able to take your questions. So were going to open with 10 minutes from each of them, discuss their book. Then were going to have a discussion. And were also going to move to audience questions from those who are watching us online who are very, very welcome. And were happy that you are watching today. Why dont we start with. Okay. And when you can speak from here, if you like. Oh, thatd be great. Sure. Thats better. Well, good morning. Have written my book. It is one of the more comprehensive books ive written. Its titled the truth about energy, Global Warming and Climate Change. I put there the truth for very particular reasons. The subtitle is exposing lies in age of disinformation. Now, in the short introduction, im just going to touch on some of the points of the book. Number one, i go through the history of how this movement developed beginning world war two, and there were various like harrison brown, who was very eminent scientist, who was writing in the fifties about scarcity, running out of things. And he was basically concerned were too many people. Hes one of the first to advocate birth control, to reduce people, even government imposition of limits on children who dramatically wanted reduce the worlds population. And that was followed by people like paul ehrlich, who wrote the population bomb in 1968, i believe. And it was again, a bestselling book. Many people were going to run out of the earths resources. It was malthusian. This idea got coopted when john holdren, who is obamas science, joined with together with erlich and they began moving it in a climate direction. Holder was, a scientist. They decided if could demonize something about the climate, get an existential were all going to die unless we do, were all going to die. If theres too many people. Then the idea was that they demonize Carbon Dioxide and say its going to cause changes in the climate. Since hydrocarbon fuels Carbon Dioxide. You get rid of hydrocarbon fuels and that would destroy capitalism. So suddenly the movement became neomarxist movement, and it still retained the deep aspect to it. Now, when you get range here and you see Green New Deal, its become fully neomarxist and goal to eliminate capitalism and to take on the entire woke agenda has become part of the climate movement. Now the second part of my book shows that the science does not support the idea that hydrocarbon fuels are detrimental for a number of reasons. Hydro, the Carbon Dioxide is a trace molecule. 04 percent of the atmosphere water vapor is about 70 of all greenhouse gases, far more potent than Carbon Dioxide. We had much more Carbon Dioxide in the early earth and its only now its gone several thousand parts per million in the atmosphere down beginning of Industrial Age, 200 parts per million today, about 400 parts per million. Thats doubling, but its very minimal and the energy coefficients of dioxide as a greenhouse gas, that small proportion are not sufficient to produce the change that are being forecast in Climate Change movement to destroy all. Theres a couple of other really important parts of the book im going to try and just hit highlights. I demonstrate that there is no such thing as fossil, no fossil ever made of fuel. No, no living tissue dies and advances to a higher form of energy that would violate the second law of thermodynamics. We die. Were going to decompose. We get buried because were going to smell. They dont line casket. Say this. And matildas going to turn into oil. There happens. We deteriorate. What happens is the during world war two, before world war two, the knew they had a lot of coal. They didnt have oil they decided for their chemistry. The weimer republic actually figured out how to synthesize size oil. They figured out the equate that make hydrocarbon chains combine. And these equations are offered here in the mantle of the earth. The earth exudes hydrocarbon fuels from deep debts. You can see them coming out in the ocean vents, the bottom of the sea, where theres no light and the creatures live on, the hydrocarbons coming out of the center of the earth. The last point i want to make is this changes in the earth when they occur are. So weve had five major extinctions. 80 of earths history, 4. 6 billion years. There was no life the surface of the planet at all. Its all the last 20 of earths history. And that time theres been five major extinctions where virtually everything living died. Theyre all basically cataclysmic events. 65 million years ago, when the dinosaurs disappeared, the dinosaurs had a massive asteroid, the yucatan fractured. It said tsunamis all the way up to north dakota. There was a thousand years of volcanic activity in india through sulfur dioxide in the atmosphere, blocked the sun. That was photosynth was gone. The dinosaurs eight plants and the earth expanded are expanding. Our theory science. Why dinosaurs were too big to exist in a more intense gravitational more gravity. So the idea that were going to extinguish ourselves by using hydrocarbon fuels is ridiculous. The third part of my book deals with the economics, but ill leave that for the discussion because weve already covered that. You cover the economics very well and we will cover it, but i agree entirely. All the these other technologies not Strong Enough to make one point. If you had a battery the size of a flashlight that could get enough solar energy in it to light up a city, you wouldnt have to have programs subsidizing it. Private industry would produce that immediately. The technology of renewable fuels, yes, you can put a solar panel in your house and get some electricity, but they are not scalable. They are not sufficiently robust to handle a sizable population and they Climate Change, Global Warming movement knows it. Because remember, as i said at the beginning, its a Population Movement as much as anything. Thank you. Thank you so much, jerome. Mark, how about you. Well, thank you. Thanks for the Heritage Foundation. Thank you, dana. For this the first book . This is my second book with green fraud why the Green New Deal was first came out in 2021. And when i started this when the Green New Deal first came on the stage, i was telling, you know, this is going to be the biggest legislative in the history of america. One of the biggest battles are going to be huge. Congrats and fight. Its going to be an election issue. And what happened was and as was finishing the book and getting to the end, march 2020 happened and that changed the entire debate, probably permanently, at least for a decade to come, because prior to that there had been indications the debate was moving to what i would call the china ification of america or the idea of no longer this up for a vote. Because if you go back and i detail in the book back 2009 when president obama had super majorities in the house and senate he tried to get a cap and trade bill passed the climate bill and essentially. Failed on the first vote. If im not mistaken, when nancy, then they did a whole bunch of bribes forced and they twisted people like House Agricultural Committee Colin Ferguson for, a minnesota forced them turned around all the pork, what youd expect the House Speaker to do to get people to come in line. It passes the house. And that was, i think, june of 2009. Well a lot of time passes in 2010 rolls around. Harry reid announces then democrat majority leader that they werent going to even put the cap and trade bill to a vote and important to mention, because at that point they failed at their climate agenda and the Obama Administration legislatively. So what the Obama Administration tried to do and was a sort of a forerunner of happened under covid they decided do executive orders they decided to bypass democracy. I actually was talking about the china ification. The idea of one the rule authoritarian rule in china was literally praised by many on the left un climate chief christina forget including tom friedman, the new york saying that they could impose whats necessary in a country without the messiness and hassle of democracy just in. Trudeau actually has said that this is a a basic great admiration for his basic dictatorship, especially when it comes to. Like climate. So obama moved us in that direction. Then, of course, trump came and blew up their whole agenda. But biden came in. And the reason biden was able to do there was a Green New Deal was introduced in Congress Never scheduled for a vote, no hearings, no town halls, no constituent meetings, nothing. Why is that . Well, everything in the whole climate debate in march 2020, which is where the great reset book comes in and i have a whole chapter devoted to that in this book, basically foreshadowing this book saying this has changed the whole climate debate, no longer dealing with anyone talking about, you know, we had to get this legislation passed and lets get lobbyists on this and get it hearings. And we had none of. It matters. Heres why. In march 2020, when they did a Covid National Emergency Declaration with also the two weeks to flatten the curve 15 days to slow the spread that changed american politics forever. Because every governor and mayor became overnight a dictator, they could determine without anyone voting on it without legislators, supervisors, town halls, parliaments globally, they could that churches would be closed. Schools would be closed, restaurants would be closed. You could have stay at home orders, curfews, weddings, funerals. A walmart was open and a big tech biggest transfer wealth from poor middle class to the wealthy. This, first of all, shocked the climate activists and we had so many people come out, i cant believe theyre doing this. Why didnt we do this for climate and then the climate activists and i detail this with in great detail on the great reset and i little bit and green fraud on the covid aspect. But they started coming out. It was. Jamie margolin margolis from teen vogue said, if we can shut down world for a virus, we can do the same for climate. John kerry came out and said the parallels between covid and climate screaming at us. Jane fonda, the Green New Deal activist who i interviewed here at the capitol, a Green New Deal protest, actually said covid is gods gift to the left and it truly was because this allowed them they didnt need any more stinking. And thats really it. People say. What is the great reset . Well, its World Economic forum capitalizing the crisis of covid two. Basically say we dont need democracy anymore. Were going to follow a chinese rule. So by these Emergency Declarations. They got to achieve everything wanted with an iron fist. Now people say, oh, well, you have the court system, the coming out and the courts did the cdc had this actually with the cdc. The premier had created that. The mask mandate. It took two years. For one, donald trump appointed judge to overturn these mask mandates and thats long the courts take. And then, of course, the mask mandates went away because they were unconstitutional. But the cdc was able to go after renters. So what happened here was the climate people got immediately on and immediately we saw studies. First of all, two parts of this linking covid climate. So we had the Harvard School of medicine you had the journal nature all saying Climate Change is going to lead to too much worse. Covid and viruses like it. So in other, if you didnt support the Green New Deal or the un paris agreement, you were now a grandma killer because this going to create all new virulent forms, covid, and they love that angle. The next thing that happened and this is in fact the International Energy agency this has infected british medical. This is in fact the new england journal medicine. This has infected the journal cell which published anthony fauci. Theyre all basically saying that we need a response to covid the same response at the using response to climate using the template as covid. And so what theyre doing is and this is according to the associated Washington Post from july article, joe biden is set to declare a National Climate emergency. This groups like the center for biological diversity very excited. Theyre already touting 130 new war time president ial powers that biden will have presumably to extend to mayors, governors. We know from the International Energy Agency Report of a few months ago that we know the blueprint for what you could call an energy lockdown. Theyre talking about car free cities, auto even days. Gas stations open. Rotating days. Theyre talking about more thermostat controls we just saw in august in Utility Companies doing it under Energy Emergency in colorado for their residents. Theyre talking about essentially blackouts. Theyre talking about under a Climate Emergency, limiting airline travel. The post just had an article detailing how the as a new report out touting a global tax on airlines. The more you fly and it gets pretty heavy, some flights can be up to almost 200 tax. If youve enough going after business travel. Oddly enough, the same study did not look at banning private travel. It was only commercial jet travel. So its about our freedom of movement. Theyre going after. So to wrap this all up, everything that has upset anyone, i would say thats particularly left of center and many liberals and i a whole chapter devoted to Robert F Kennedy jr who actually said when i interviewed him at the new york city climate march climate deniers, the ceos of these company belong in at the hague with all the other war criminals and and in book i issue a formal forgiveness for Robert F Kennedy jr because of stance against lockdowns mandates and recognizing the essentially the global plan to take away our freedom. But also theres naomi, the former clinton gore adviser. Hollywood socialist Russell Brand is my new hero. If you watch his youtube channel, itll blow you away. How . Hes almost protrump at this point. The way he talks. Jimmy used to be on young turks. I detail but essentially whats happened in the last two and a half years is everything happened from Vaccine Mandates mask mandates, lockdowns. Restricting of meat. Even the even the blackouts and car gas powered car bans has done without a vote of democracy. In other words, everything is just being imposed upon us through corporate collusion. I like to say big tech is government censors. When you see the Biden White House give a list of names of who they should release, we see this to twitter information. Big tech comes back. Yes, were working on it. How about this website, were on it. Were going to take that down. So this kind of corporate we saw it happen that the freedom convoy in canada as well. When you had freedom truckers protesting Vaccine Mandates. Justin trudeau, them terrorists, essentially domestic terrorists and their Bank Accounts were cut off the insurance for their trucks cut off. The government just declared it and corporations were more than willing to collude with government on that. Same thing is happening. We had the department of justice try to declare the parents who protested School Boards the same concept. So in other words, what theyve done in the last couple of years without a vote, no one voted for this collapse. Star energy, i guess you could say that they be voted in ways by politicians who were promising. They were never promising to collapse energy. They were promising a green utopia, but theyve collapsed our energy. Our food supply. Theyve gone after meat eating. Theyre after high yield agriculture with, net zero with make no mistake, the netherlands is a target for net zero. Agenda because its the number one meat exporter in europe and their stated goal is to go after meat eating, make it a rare and expensive treat. And this is by the United Nations by the World Economic forum. And then theyve also gone after transportation and classic example is Governor Newsom issued an executive order the California Air Resources Board follows up with unaccountable bureaucratic board with a timetable to ban the gas powered cars. 17 states, including my home state of virginia, have trigger laws that go along with it. Pete booted judge, our Energy Secretary all excited when i make it national. The bank former president nicholas stern. A World Bank Meeting actually said we need to come up with a timetable to end financing for the internal Combustion Engine. Which means what . Which means going to make automakers stop being to finance it. A bank in australia are basically saying that they can no longer provide car loans to anyone who wants to buy a gas powered car. So everything i just mentioned was done without debate hearings, legislator, parliament. And thats the new normal. Thats the great reset. Its the china ification america, the once free west, one party, chinese and climate is their center of attention now. And thats what this book presents. World economic forum. World Health Organization now declared climate the number one Public Health threat of the 21st century. So this is where its moving to. And its a combination of covid and climate. Theyre fuzing the two together. Well, so with that, thank you very much. And we need to be fortunate. We should be fortunate. We are not citizens of china because have been locked down in some cases for months at a time. The government trying to see how far it go without civil unrest in terms of locking people in their homes. Okay. I well, i dedicated book to marc morano and mark and i have worked together for a long and hes been i tend to climate meetings with him. Hes gotten thrown out of more climate meetings that ive attended. Sure. Yeah, that was. Well, id like to get cardboard cutout of trump at the un meeting. They literally had armed climate cops to escort us out. But yeah, but i always want to say mark has been a champion of this movement. Hes ive written many books on many different subjects. Mark has lived with a dedicated effort and hes to be applauded for having brought this message forward. I have always supported marks work. We work very closely together and im honored to be here today with him as well. Honored to be here with both of you. And i wanted to ask you a question that as an economist, really puzzled me here we are coming down to the midterm. Oil prices are up. The United States, 373 billion barrels of oil, which is a 50 supply. We. 3000 trillion cubic feet of gas, natural gas, a 100 year supply. Yet President Biden wants to make deals with venezuela for them produce oil. And venezuela, of course is linked to russia and china President Biden is begging the saudis to increase their oil production. Why is he doing that . Why couldnt we just be producing more here . Wouldnt that be easier for him politically . Because then right away, based on expectations of future production prices would go down and he would have an easier time cruising into these november elections . Well, id disable quick. I think his Energy Secretary, granholm, said it best if they want oil in the short term, but 5 to 10 years, they want it to start going down. So they know intuitively that they cant get permits. Drilling companies arent going to get investors. So where are they to go . Theyve got to go outside the country to get an increase. And hes drained the Petroleum Reserve to a 40 plus year low, basically to save democrats a midterm election. I didnt know that was part of a Strategic Plan to use it for elections, but he is so late, jerry. Well, first of all, the first recognition is that oil and, natural gas are so abundant, i cannot imagine well ever run. Now, that doesnt mean theyre infinite it means that theyre not finite by. The time we will be having a new energy source, just like coal is no longer use the way it was in the fifties. We have so coal we wouldnt know what to do with it. Its not enormous amount of coal all over the world and were not using it. The second part is that the the politics of this are to negate the economic base. In other words, we could have a Abundant Energy and we could be a world leader. Donald trump proved that it could be cheap and. Our modern industrial societies on cheap energy populations which have grown to billions are today wouldnt be here without cheap energy. And that should be what we should. Endeavoring to do is to spread this to the part, the world that is underserved with energy instead these its almost like i consider to be almost satanic in a way. Its going on to the whole marxist orientation which started out as a hate god movement. Marx was not an atheist. He hated god. It had to exist for marx to hate him and the point is that when you look at destruction of people, you say theres too many people. Were running out of resources thinking it goes into political control, totalitarian. Its combined by first. This is my first book of it. Three book series called the great trilogy. The second book will be on the neo marxism, cultural maoism and, the anarchy on the social justice, and they go together because this is a byproduct of entire ideological shift which is going on to a neo and its taking over the country, taking over the World Without being aware of the political roots from which it came. I go back to cant i go back to hegel and show you the frankfurt school, the second book thats just about finished. Ill have it done by the end of this month and it will demonstrate that we are not only in a period of time which makes no sense rationally from energy, economics. It makes no sense in of all the history and tradition of liberty and freedom. And the idea is to negate liberty and freedom, to destroy capitalism, to destroy the standard of living we have in the world. And thats why you are going to find that energy today. When you look back at this if these people continue to succeed these high prices were having today be considered cheap because their intent is make energy unaffordable. And in europe, right now theyre experiencing because without russian gas, natural gas, many in europe are going to freeze winter. Their germans are cutting down for us for firewood. The poles are coming into coal stations and asking to have enough coal to get through the winter people are burning garbage to keep warm. Their people are storing all kinds of things, knowing that theyre going to freeze. This is a bad winter millions will die with this policy and the globalists will not be concerned because its actually within the reengineering of a free society into a totalitarian society. The chinas as asia is, as it were, of america. So thats the thats the little bit longer answer to the. Question. Do we have any questions from the audience . Paxton here has a mic. So lets go to you. Lets go to david berman here. And then afterwards, were going go to myron ebell over here. David burton the Heritage Foundation, natural gas and Petroleum Feedstocks for fertilizer and fertilizers are a vital element to having productive agriculture. So it strikes me that in the developing world, the left policies and their tax on fertilizer or will result in tens of millions and potentially deaths as a result of famine. Radical price increases in, the rest of the world. I was wondering, you have done some work or familiar with work seeking to quantify how many millions of people will die because of these wing policies . Yeah, i dont have actual number on that, although i know that even things like the un food organizations warning about its showing an increase not only from the result of the lockdowns but just this food scarcity, which theyre not really attributing a cause to. As i mentioned, one of the causes is this net zero goal of going against nitrogen fertilizer, which creates nitrogen oxide, which they claiming is one of the most dangerous, potent greenhouse gases. The problem that is, theyre not only going now after co2, which one of these uk government reports actually will regulate Carbon Dioxide, which exhale as asbestos. But now it was this was in scientific the nitrogen fertilizer and the fact that were eating all this meat is theyre saying thats the meat eating is a human p problem, thats essentially our p. Now is polluting urine is supposed to be polluting, creating more nitrous oxide creating dangerous warming. So its an antihuman agenda at, its core. And when you look at this especially in the developing i mean they need again cheap available food. But the irony of all this is going to be they predicted for decades climate activists that Food Shortages would be coming to manmade Global Warming if left unchecked. Their policies are now creating shortages, which they will then blame on manmade Global Warming, and therefore push for more of the same policies, creating food shortage. Its a vicious, sick cycle, and thats why, you know, in the i argue that we need to stand up against entire narratives and push back every single one of these, whether its the destruction, the car destruction, the energy destruction, our free speech destruction, its all related the u. N. Announced. They own the science. I mean, every of this. But do you want to comment on food. Yeah, just a very first of all, we exhale Carbon Dioxide and so therefore, the movement is suicidal in nature. We are the human beings are next extinction, going to cause our own extinction. Okay. So theyve picked something that is in selfloathing on human beings, polar got his degrees studying butterflies. He wrote constantly to many people. He never wrote anything to too many butterflies. The point is secondly, that when you look at Carbon Dioxide in terms of what its impact is, its extremely small. There is no Global Warming on theres hockey puck, theres hockey stick, you know, hockey stick. Michael mann came up with saying that all temperatures were just fine until the Industrial Age and then suddenly it got warmer even from the climate gate emails have we know that data was rigged and they knew it the to this is that the Global Warming community the ipcc knows their science is fragile they know it is completely distorted and for instance, the last point i would make on i agree with mark, weve got to fight fundamental premises. I just wrote an article in the american thinker on this hurricane that just occurred in in florida because, again, michael mann was out there saying this is Climate Change, Global Warming, well, in fact, even on the noah website, which our, you know, astronomical basically measuring all the weather media all this has a long article will probably be taken after i wrote about it. I made sure to capture it. So i proof what he wrote is that there is no proof. There is evidence which would link hurricanes with Carbon Dioxide that the argument is just not enough of it and it is the power is not sufficient. The last point i want to make is people need to understand that the function of the weather is to distribute heat, the nature of the earths tilt. The sun hits us at the and so the is blessed with this on which we can distribute the heat from the equator to the poles and from the lower atmosphere to the upper atmosphere that keeps the planet livable because it regulates the to the extent we can and we have ice ages that still but the planet cant overcome. The amount of cold were getting at that time and ice ages tend to occur because of the elliptical orbit of the. Where is the most elliptical . The most far from the sun at the extreme. Thats when we get ice ages and another one will occur. Were right now an interglacial warming period. We should be thankful we are life prospers in these periods of time. But the point is these changes that occur on earth including hurricanes including all the storms theyre Climate Change because they Global Warming cant be proved so they want to attribute every storms every storm as a result of Climate Change. The earth needs these dramatic events in order to help regulate the heat the ocean currents are much more responsible for hurricanes than Carbon Dioxide is completely a lie. I just want to add that meteorologist is study of the great phrase. Its the weaponizing of the weather and this is nothing short of climate ambulance chasing where every flood hurricane tornado drought wildfire is somehow proof of Global Warming. Michael has actually said if you want to see how Global Warming is doing, look outside your kitchen window right. Like they want it. So thats in its a lobbying effort to get people to support the United Nations, actually. And actually have some data on these hurricanes. Many young people today are panicked because they dont think theyll have a future. Theyve heard this narrative. Yeah and they say, mommy, daddy, youre going to kill me because youre putting that evil in your car. This whole thing is a brainwashing exercise and it is not founded on on solid science. I didnt mean to interrupt. Our poll. No, no, no, no. You youre absolutely right about the hurricane from the 1870s through the 1950s, there was an average of point three, category three, four or five hurricanes that landfall each decade from the 1960s to the 20 tens. The average was 5. 6. And the 11 year period from 2006 through 2016 was the longest period meteorological history, when no category three or higher storms hit the United States. But i wanted to ask you why, given these of Global Warming and Climate Change, think emissions, including carbon, are the problem, why are they not more enthused about Nuclear Power . Because Nuclear Power is energy. Its emissions free. There are Small Modular Reactor that could be sent to small communities, africa and asia that would power those villages so they didnt have to use coal. Why is it that there there is not more of a movement in favor of Nuclear Power . This seems to be a political rather an economic question. Id be very i would say there is a among certain environmentalists, people like michael shellenberger, the times hero of the environment, whos actually apologized for his in the climate scare details a lot of this. But i think ultimate answer to your question without getting into Nuclear Energy really is they dont really want Plentiful Energy for the human race. Vision is austerity want to if you aoc did a video a few years ago about a vision the Green New Deal and it was all People Living in a city where was like in perfect harmony. And this is World Economic forums vision of your own. Nothing. And youll be happy. Everything you will be delivered by drone, even on your apartment, because itll be sublet out to you wont need to own an appliance like an egg beater because you could order one and itll be delivered to you. Youll rent it for a few hours. They have this vision of such a master mind control that people dont need space prosperity. They dont need Wealth Creation. In fact, the u. N. Actually has said in vancouver declaration Wealth Creation creates inequity and, the concentration of wealth there against owning property. So in that guise, they dont really look nuclear as necessary because they see much more primitive global population. Once policies are implemented. But if drones the delivering goods, then those drones arent going to need to be recharged. Thats from somewhere. And i assume these apartments are air conditioned and its like a movie. Theyll come up with some technology that theyll be able to make synthetic batteries ever invented. Its ever meant to be. It makes sense. Thats the fun. We got to understand that the the whole thing with Nuclear Energy illustrates what done by this far left. Okay to hate people. Crowd is that you fundamentally look at a chernobyl or three mile island and you demonize it. You you say this is what Nuclear Power does. We Nuclear Power, were all going to die. We cant make it work. The us navy runs on Nuclear Power and i dont recall. We have a lot of problems with it. It can be done well. Friends, 70 of french electricity comes we used to until they decided they were going to reduce it. Germany has just gone back turn on some of its Nuclear Power plants. There is always move in europe to shut down Nuclear Power. The point is that Nuclear Power is, as i said earlier, a new form of energy and integration fusion. These are future forms of, energy. We will have abundant hydrocarbons in part because we wont need well have a nuclear or some form of Battery Powered, a Nuclear Fusion or fission. That is enough to, you know. A battery will power your car. Well, ive atomic batteries in our cars thats possible. Have atomic Running Community have little Nuclear Plants running communities. These things are feasible but point at soon will be even more feasible. But the point you a ship on one Nuclear Reactor in that ship. Okay so it can be done but the point is thats not the purpose. The purpose is one of oligarchy small group together with their friends and multinational corporations ruling the world out when they destroy all the people. I dont know who theyre going to sell their goods to, but again, these things are not necessarily well thought out right . And they dont necessarily they never make sense. Yeah, myron you had a question here. Thank you. A comment and then a question my comment is, in fact, this is the age it a shortcoming yes. This is the age of coal. Coal consumption this year, according the iea, will set an all time record globally. My question is, mark, i take your point that the the politicos moved from legislation to executive fiat in Emergency Powers and emergency power but the congress did pass the Inflation Reduction Act socalled. And id like to ask you what you think is going to happen, because theres this guy named john podesta whos put in charge of doling out the money. Now the word corruption comes to my mind and. I wonder whether you think the corruption thats going to follow is really a good thing or a bad thing. I mean corruption is generally regarded as bad. The reduction act was basically a partizan line vote, a sort of a Party Loyalty test and it was very focused on climate. Its funny, all these democratic congressmen come out, admitted nothing, do with inflation. They just call it that because thats what they wanted to call it. So it wouldnt be called a climate bill, but too serious, analysis of that was Bjorn Lomborg roger pilkey. Jr two separate analysis it wouldnt even effect global level essentially, let alone potentially the climate in any way shape, form. Its one of the biggest pork barrel spending. Bill gates personally lobbied for this bill up joe manchin. And then it turns bill gates as enterprises be benefiting. I want to say it was more and a half, hundreds of hundreds of millions or something just to go and a few bill gates enterprises. So i expect a lot of corruption in this but you know corruption washington never really faze me. I always said spending i long ago quit about how much they spend even republican to push things like Carbon Capture and all that im not going to really fight that in sense that its i think its an ugly waste of Money Research that for the future but they keep pouring money into especially renewables. I dont that stuff you are going expect out of washington thats expected but whats really changed in my point with the last two and a half years is they are now able to just dictate things which was unthinkable and thats where they covered Emergency Powers open up their eyes. And i think thats where bidens with with the climate Emergency Powers and you actually have publications like the uk guardian saying we need a global lockdown every two years in order to meet the us paris climate goals. So in a way i guess its better to them huge pork barrel spending with the usual than than the other direction which is, you know emergency power and dictates in collusion between corporate government entities. Thats good Old Fashioned corruption. I actually welcome that if thats is that the answer to your question . The inflation reduction is not as worrying as all the other aspects of this. I read a chapter on the and so is a redux reduced solyndra you remember obama spent billions of dollars on energy out of the stimulus act vendor was a battery factory that went of business and received large amounts of government and there was in fact the the billions that came out of the recovery act that obama passed right after the real estate crash. Much of that money went to the cronies and the friends. In fact, i there were studies done percent of the money went to the people run. Obamas 2008 finance committee. 80 of the money spent on solyndra in that era. Virtually all the projects went bankrupt as i detailed the projects that failed. Solar, wind solar and wind will largely up junk. Theyre going to be out there spinning around. Nobodys going to want them. If they were halfway sensible and the all projects built huge fields of solar and huge fields of wind turbines, they failed economically. The people kept the money. These obama cronies and the projects are gone. One went to jail. No one was prosecuted for this. And when you put john podesta in of the money, you know, one of my top climate scientists, john, who if you if anyone, read the assange release of emails from podesta, youll know what kind of an he is. I can guarantee you that money is going to go to friends of john podesta. Well for example the white house rolled out plans for stations in the different states, alaska, minnesota they have many charging stations. But as anybody knows, are very, very cold places and battery. The batteries run down to zero in those areas. Theres a reason in alaska dont have Battery Powered electric vehicles and even internal Combustion Engines. When you pull up to a grocery store, places to keep them heated because those engines freeze. Right. So i think that youre seeing in a repeat of the boondoggle on renewable projects and the narrative is were glad hydrocarbon fuels, gasoline more because it will speed the movement to these renewable fuels, wind and solar. Obama tried the same thing you can speed their implementation all you want they dont work. Okay. Another question over here. And then we had a question here. They dont work on the scalable basis. They dont work in the magnitude you need them. Theyre not sufficiently powerful. You know, you get a wind turbine or, generate electricity, but to generate enough electricity to los angeles or new york. How much territory are you going to put into turbines and how much territory are you going to put into solar panels . And is that going to work at that scale . Right. And to transmit the energy or transmission places from where its being produced now. Question over here and then we had a question for you. Yes. So this discussion dovetails something my own question and that is politicians act in their own political selfinterest, which isnt necessarily a bad always, but somebody is funding them. Theyre clearly pursuing this insanity decision agenda. I mean, the there may be more of an effort to dictate and bypass congress, but theres lots of people in congress that are perfectly happy with that. So but theyre getting funding. Theyre you know, its in their political interest to do this sort of thing. And so what who would you say are key donors of it . I mean, theres is being supported financially absent that they wouldnt be relentless about because theyre all about getting reelected and increasing their power. But somebody is behind this many people are and we should say that, of course, many people, including many people in our audience who are concerned about Global Warming have the best of intentions and have nothing to do with funneling funds to different places. Yeah, well, in terms of that question, its tom steyer is one of the biggest democratic donors and actually ran for president. Interestingly, this was back in 2019 he laid out almost precovid locked on almost vision of using Emergency Powers. He actually said in 2019, this is like february 19, one of the i think the number one largest democratic donor by individual. I will declare a Climate Emergency president and i will be able will be able to determine about industry, automobiles, energy. He literally laid out in like a shouting, an angry vision of him as a dictator under Emergency Powers. That message trickle down to democrats. Thats why joe biden is now considering and these are this is again, this is where the big money from democrats comes from. So thats one of the reasons that all of these politicians who would normally go along with it. In fact, joe manchin, i dont know if he personally benefited. I havent heard that. But for the Inflation Reduction Act, it was the usual pork barrel spending and that strong arming that they pushed into. To me, that second answer, that is that ill just say it very simply. Mitch mcconnells wife, whos chinese is worth a fortune in china, and im sure that is relevant to. Him and joe biden, weve all gone through. Were not supposed to talk about it anymore. See, thats part the the left demonizes truth and insists upon insists upon a narrative that is there narrative only so if want to say you know theres election fraud. Well no state is decertified in terms of the mechanics of lawfare. You cant say that election was fraudulent because you dont have proof. The idea that the Department Justice is there now pursuing a political agenda, the idea of democracy, of this globalist crowd would be an Eu Parliament where no is really elected by the people. Theyre selected. Yeah. And so therefore the money that comes in is no longer coming from traditional sources. Winning votes and getting people to back your campaign. I have to say the secretary childs family fled china. I know, i apologized. She came to the United States at the age of nine, not be able to speak any english and then rose to become the secretary of labor the secretary of transportation i was proud to work for us. Im not im not suggesting corruption but the family worth millions in china and its its wonderful its a wonderful success story. Mitch mcconnell, an excellent politician. I would never disparage question over here. Thank you. We have should identify yourself. Frederick peterson and i wanted to first address a comment where were looking at i know term has been grossly overused but existential threats to our system to personal liberty and to the economy worldwide there is a great upheaval given the powers that are the that of technology and control that exist but are also in the history of the world this is critical back at seton hall law. A little personal note we founded something called the environmental law. So you have some do you have a question . Yes, i do. Yeah, i yes. I do. Let me finish im getting right to it. The Environmental Law Firm or e. L. F. Little elf was also survival technique and i offer this for all of us. Ill have stood for for those in the inner circle eat the liberals first health. At any rate the question is the question is are we are facing within a matter of days a National Election that may well turn the history of the world or at least give it a chance to survive. Do have any estimate as to whether the before was against arrayed against american liberty and freedom are going to be able to survive election or what you think if they realize are about to be unsafe and people are waking up will election actually be suspense ended as was as is possible and very much dictatorial powers thanks very much, mark. And then jerry. I dont know. I dont think i mean, i think two years ago there was worry with the covid if we can have inperson voting and we may have to delay. I dont think anything like that in terms of covid going along, i do think that theyre very worried democrats and thats why strategic Petroleum Reserve, theyre doing anything they can to keep energy under control until that election. Theyre very afraid. I just hope that if the republicans win that the Republican Leadership capitalizes on it. I wish the republicans, instead of having that contract with america, what was it called, commitment to america, they had done something simple. You know, we will stand up for free speech. We will stand up for gas. We will not allow gas powered car bands a vote. We wont allow your food banning of meat. We wont allow Energy Blackouts where we went. America, which they had done something that was a little bit more less wonkish and more relevant peoples lives as the people watch news and worry about. But well see i mean, i think, you know, i dont think therell be any any i dont know. I dont know. I cant make a prediction. This is going to be. But we have up we have a head stop. So we have one time for one more question. So lets i would like to say these powers, these groups that get power Russian Revolution was carried out by a small group maos revolution by a small group. These groups are very reluctant to let go of power once they get it. Yeah. Yes. Now, im bill walters. Could you comment on the degree to which russian and chinese propaganda can just use American Social to accomplish these purposes . That what you were asking about what . Great question. Yeah. I was going to say answer for you real quickly. That i wish we would apply environment social governance esg standards to products from that would end the whole solar electric battery. Imagine if we actually were able to do that in japan, china, russia, we thought wed all pay a lot more the stores if that were true. Thats right. Yeah, well, you would. But im just saying that would be if youre going to apply it to a us, it should be evenly equally applied. Its not. And in terms of china, kevin mooney actually with Heritage Foundation and others has done great reports about chinese. Sorry that chinese, but russian and russian money, particularly going into environmental groups to promote, you know, shutting down energy. So its one of the things you like we get the control of messaging and the propaganda and they control of the dialog. The narrative is fundamental to this postmodern world that is at the heart, the frankfurt school, etc. At the heart of this woke movement. Marcuse his book, repressive tolerance. They do not want to tolerate anyone elses views. So the answer to your question is essentially yes, that i think china influence the social media, but its remarkable how much government is, in a sense influenced by china and for some reason has decided to apply naito to russia, which it does not seem to be a good at the moment as far as mr. Putins not that im a putin lover, but he is a very effective protect of russian sovereignty and will continue to want access the atlantic and the both finland and Ukraine Russia has wanted to do for hundreds of years. Point is we ive got a dialog that is in a sense the model of china and the left here agree with the cultural maoism that is at the heart of china and at the heart of the woke movement, gramsci marched through institutions thats being done well. 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