today. this session is entitled resistance resilience and surviving the sex trade brenda myers-powell leaving breezy street a memoir and harnessing your strip in conversation with anne ream the voices and faces project, brenda and hannah's books be available for sale and signing at the book sales and signing tent neighborhood in in on the map. nancy. nancy. an advocate for victims of sex trafficking since 1997, brenda myers-powell gill is the co-founder and, executive director of the dream catcher. in 2020, she was selected to serve on the u.s. advisory council on human trafficking. her work was the focus of the sundance award winning document dream catcher. hannah sward work has widely published in the u.s., canada and the uk. her most recent work can be in the fall 2022 issue of and letters. she is the author of strip a memoir. moderator and kareem founder the voices and faces project, an award winning global writing program for those impacted gender based violence and other human rights violations. and author of lived through this. her memoir of a multi-car a multi-country journey spent listening to the stories of sexual violence and, trafficking survivors. will you please join me and a warm welcome to our guests as they come forward. y'all can do better than that now. i think brenda is going moderate. oh, well, first of all, thanks, everyone, for being here. and brenda and hannah, i've been so excited about this conversation because i love these books and i feel like their books that say things that the world really needs to hear about prostitution, the sex trade. and i want to start because i was struck by both of you kind of embarked on writing these memoirs roughly at a similar point in your lives in some way. so i wanted to start with a question i guess we could start with you, hannah. what was the catalyst for to actually take your experiences and make them beautiful literature? first of all, thank you all for being here. it's such an honor. thank you. and i it it was really an organic process. i didn't set out to write story, didn't sit down. i'm telling my story. however the catalyst was my mentor jill sherry robinson and i had been to a library event that she was doing and writing group and i had read and i read a piece from childhood and she came up to me after and she said, you're writing a memoir. and this is an author that admired greatly age 80 years old when i met her. so she became my mentor. that was the catalyst. and it was a very long process. and i started to realize that is what i'm writing and what i want to write and need it to. brenda. it was my business partner, stephanie daniels wilson, who she kept after me. she said, you got to write story. we had did the documentary dreamcatcher and people kept asking me, we want to know your story. we want to hear your story. i was speaking all over and talking about the dream catcher foundation and other women and kept asking me, what was my story? i was working with jodi. rafia. we were doing a lot of and she said, brenda, need to write your story. but unfortunately you can't put the whole story in one book. but you need to start writing that. and i, i took a lot. i talked to my daughters and asked them how would they feel that because i got kids, i get daughters who are i? i just felt i owed a lot of things to and i didn't want to put things out there where they had to have repercussion. and they said, mommy, your story, you need to tell it because they knew what kind of work that i to do and what i was doing and think once they gave me their permission, there was no stopping me. i said, i'm to tell the story because i kept seeing things that were on television and it wasn't a truth. it was like we were happy where we were and we came out here. we were standing on a corner and there was nothing. there was not a pass behind where we were. we were standing on that corner. we were depicted in movies as, always being the girls that were loud and happy with ugly wigs in the media know. and we had no feelings. we were just happy to be having sex on a corner and that was not where i came from, who i was, you know. and i got tired of the type of images that were depicted for women who were caught up in it. human trafficking. i got tired of those stories that. the men telling about women who were caught up in human trafficking. i just got tired. i wanted to tell the story so that no little girl, no no no young girl would ever to say to herself, i want to do this because that's what happened to me as a little girl, i this stuff was glamorous and i didn't know the story behind it so i didn't want another little girl to say this is cool. so i wanted tell the real story heartbreak, the pain, the abuse, the trauma behind it. so i needed to see that. i think that's one of the things that of your books do very beautifully. i mean, what's clear is your and your dignity and your resilience. what's also really clear in both of these books is the story behind the story. how you entered the sex trade and why. and i was struck the amount of time you both spent telling the story before story. to your point, brenda the representations in the media so often fast forward, you know. that moment when it's alleged or supposedly a choice and without overtly saying that in both of your books i had that sense of the story behind the story really mattering. and i'm wondering hannah i was thinking as as i was reading book particularly i was struck by the fact and you mentioned in the green room that chicago comes up in your memoir and i'm interested in how it feels to be back here to be in this point at this point in your story. yeah versus that point in the story. this is my first time in chicago in 33 years. the last time i was here, i was a call girl. i've been here one day and it is is. i wish i had known then that i would be telling story and that i would have a reason. it's i have the words to describe what it's like to be here. however. i work with a lot of young women who also come from backgrounds that. we're challenging and. i always instill that you just don't know what's going to happen with this. they may not write a book, but something and and i've gotten to see that come true with the number of young women and it's been the greatest of gifts. so to come here. i mean, i love this city and and it's also very and my father is also from here. so it's i'm kind of speechless. thank you for that. i'm a little space, too, because that was so beautifully put. i'll add this. yesterday i took a boat and i was next to the chicago tribune in a strip memoir. i opened chicago tribune to the page listing how to make money in an hour. and i had been working at 24 hour fitness and. thought $9 verses 200 an hour. i wasn't very savvy with money. so to be standing next to that chicago tribune building was just, yeah, well, that that gets us to, i think, a really important question or just a point of conversation for us, which the degree to which the sex trade and economic and social instability and racism and class are intertwined that you can't really talk about choice or agency in the world. we're in now, which is profoundly unequal. and i'm wondering, brenda you and i have worked together for a long time on not only trafficking, human trafficking issues, but gender justice issues and justice issues broadly. and i'm wondering how you see why is the world resistant to understanding the factors that make people that that drive people into the trade? why do people not get it? they don't want to because it's power and control. it's a deal where. they don't want the just to seem to be the reason they don't want to give women weight. the same reason they don't want women to get paid the same thing that men get. i mean, there are just entities right now that don't want to let go of something that's been happening in our in our society hundreds and hundreds of years. prostitution is started out of poverty in a need anyway it was not a form of of say, prostitution. human trafficking back in the day was a part of survival for women. it came out of all women. to survive. i mean, my husband's dead. i don't have a way. i don't you know, it's it's i don't have a boy in the family or. i don't have a family. and i'm a widow i trade off, you know, and the town put me on the edge of town because. i'm the only unmarried woman in these type of things happen to women have to survive for six need. poverty and rule and and control. i have it you don't. what do you what what are my options? okay. so i have to you know, settle. trading off sex for to feed my family or to feed myself to get meat, to get groceries, to get what i need to do, you know, to get through the winter it's hard out there in in the wilderness, you know i it is in the wars they have women were taken as slaves. please the men this is the way society work out. and it became normalized. women were on the other end of it and then as it went on. you know it progressed on general hooker i mean the where they say got the word hooker he was a man who fancied himself as taken over towns in making the women you know pursuing his his his his troops with the the of war and the women were left behind after they killed off the men. okay. and they were no known as hookers, girls. you know, there's so many different stereotypes to say, how did we get here? we got here through through do poverty need and taken over the weaker you know, not not that we are weaker but having that issue of of going in and taking over taking what they wanted and power and control money and i know all of that. you know, it was not just somebody woke up one day and said, i want to be a prostitute i want to be raped. i want somebody to so i want to sell my body that was never on the mind. you know here i want to sell my children. this was power in in and people had to sacrifice themselves. so when you think of where this even came from, it's sad. and now in order cope with anything, we live our heads up and we keep moving. and that's what has this has come to be adapt to me and i get what a lot of people say this is my body and i can do what i want with it that's true that's true. but where did that even come from? you know, i can sell my body, you know, we were not meant to be slaves in first place. so if you're selling your body into anything as a part of human trafficking and it shouldn't be have have to be done, i don't think a woman should have to sell her body. i think her i think i think need should be met where she shouldn't have to. i think that we should have things in place where shouldn't have to go to that that level. okay. if she needs such as food, shelter and things like that, some kind of way we should able to get those things. not her to go sell her body for it. but we don't live in that world. we live in a world that doesn't care and thinks is a joke, that a woman standing on a corner selling something as precious to her body, that's god's doorway. life. you came through that door. okay, everybody in here came through that door is precious yet we treat it so. i wonder, brenda and hannah of the things that is really for me as i as i read these books i reread fred brenda's now twice i read hannah's almost one really powerful sitting. but one of the things that really strikes as problematic is and brant, you've already touched on the degree to which media representations of prostitution have become glamorized. they've become a story of empower, informant and agency. mm hmm. and i'm i'm struck by this because working with survivors, the vast majority of stories are not those stories. those are the exceptions. they're not the rule. but the exceptions are driving. media represents ocean. so i'm interested. i know we could talk endlessly about why is i think brenda you've already hit on of the whys but what i'd like to know is how that makes you feel when you see that as someone who has lived through this and sees the story being told that is glamorous and sexualized, maybe hannah, we could start with you. i have a read, quite a of different things from essays to, you know, whole books and movies. and one of the things that really struck me was, for example, stripping on portray as having a of control and choice and. sense of power. mm. and there were absolutely two women girls that i stripped with that, that were that, that was the case. for example, my little sister because we strip together and strip and that not my story. i didn't feel powerful doing it. i was one of those strippers. i have a piece that's coming out next month based on this on my book. it's called nobody a crying stripper. i was of those strippers on the side crying. and i don't see that. and i don't hear that. and i met you. i met you about. okay. go ahead. go ahead. we were talking before. what strip clubs we both worked at and we're like because we were both in california. so we'll talk after or now or not for now. yeah, we'll talk. we're talking about. oh, yeah, yeah. and then also same with the, you know, prostitution prostitution. and i everyone has their own experience of it yeah, i was an empowered stripper i was an empowered prostitute because i had some i had some i lobby. i had a lot of resentment. i had a lot of stuff inside of me. i had been molested since i was a four year old. i had a lot of damage inside of me. i had a lot of i didn't know how to deal with it and those things and powered me, yeah, look at me. i can't wait to get you back in. powered me. you know. and it made me feel. i was looking for a love attention in all the wrong places it made me feel the shiny costume and the makeup and in the weeks made me feel beautiful. because all my life i wanted to be i wanted to be ross and all the supremes. you know what i mean? and when i was up there, i was shiny. i thought somebody was going whip me off my feet, just like pretty woman, and somebody was gonna take me out of all this and ease my pain and make me feel better because i felt rotten only inside, you know. please take me. please me. please say something to me. all of that inside me trying to get it together. but no one did because to them. i was just a. in in in plain words, you know, no one was taking me home. no one was going to do anything special with no one was going to say brenda. but brenda. mm. which you did quite beautifully. i want to, i want to talk about how we can't really talk about sexual exploitation or trafficking, talking about violence and in fact that's brenda when i was first working on my book focused sexual violence. it was brenda when i interviewed her who made so clear to me that connection and i don't think the world grasped this that i have never worked with or known someone who's been in the sex trade, who has not known sexual violence most often. they knew it before or they were in the sex trade and then they lived it over and over in the sex. why do we not talk as much as we should about. that connection. and i want to thank the of you because both of your books do that very powerfully. so your question was basically why why are we not talking about prostitution and sexual violence and how they are and how prevalent sexual violence is in the sex trade. i think don't want to look. and one of the reasons that i wrote the book was i writing for recovery magazine and. i had written about working the sex trade, sugar daddies in and of sobriety because i hadn't heard or read anything about that. and i thought, well, that is my story. and also i, i got such large response from women and actually some men saying a, sharing their secrets with me without even having met me. and it gives me chills to hear that because i feel like, you know, compared to when i was a child which was when when i was first, i was kidnaped from a park when i was six years old. that was my first experience in that in that with the west violence and sharing that opened the door to let other young women and share what what they've been. i don't know why it's not talked about it's such a secret. and the secrets are for me what keep kept me doing what i was doing. and it was by sharing my secret that other women specifically came forward and were, you know, well, i can tell you why, as compartmentalized, we have the sex industry where we have it in the street where we know there's violence. and that's where you say, oh, there's filings out there. and then you have your escort business where there's no violence that, we think. but there is of violence. but no one talks about it because if you're escort service, of course, you're not going advertise that there's violence going on because they're kind of keep it hush hush because it's bad for the business. we can't let anyone know that girls are getting harmed. we can't let the police know we let the customers know. we can't let anybody. so we don't shove that up under and, keep it hush hush and we can give you some, might it be quiet too. and then we got to protect customers. so that's the escort business, the strip club business. no, there's no violence because we have bouncers. we're not to let the club know anybody outside club? no. there's problems in a girl got beat up last night by a customer because that's bad for business now. we got to keep that hush hush going club and we're going to pay you for your bruises and let you keep your money. we're not going to take our percentage tonight. you go home and their customer gets kicked out and they're going to let him out. they don't let him in for a month or two, but take a little back in so he can beat up another girl that's shoved up under the rug. they don't report it because it's bad business. okay? that's why it's under reported. it happens all time the same way it does in the street. do you think the same guys are the same customer? hers, he gets what he has better manners when he date a girls. you go in a hotel room with them, he beat you just like he beat a girl up in a car he puts the pillow over your head just like he smothered the girl in the car. it doesn't change, but it's done different. it's just different situation and the way it's covered up, more money, you get more that john gets protected better. you understand what i'm saying? but on a street at two and 3:00 in the morning, he may not get discovered because two or 3:00 in the morning. no. saw me get in a car with them. no one saw me disappear. what they at that type you know, so nine out of ten when the police find somewhere if i'm alive, i give him too much a description of this in the police don't have a lot to go on so it doesn't get reported in the police department because they don't they don't really want to bother with us anyway it's under but it's huge. yeah. business. hey business plus serious business girls get beat up all the time, get stabbed, get disfigured, they get harmed in a big way. they get murdered. right now we have an epidemic. demick from the south and west side of almost 50, 52 women murdered the same way the. fbi has alerted the cpd that this is a serial killer because these girls are murdered the same way. strangulation left in garbage cans in alleys, abandoned buildings in chicago. the police departments. so we got so much on our hands with these guns and these jackets. we're trying to take the guns off the street. now, so far they haven't took no guns off the street. so i don't know what they waiting on but 52 women have been murdered. we strike left in the same situations, but they don't think they have a serial killer. but these were women who had certain lifestyle, so they're not to end. they work movement of color. so they're not looking for this prostitute killer. they don't care because these were women of the evening they're out there but they're underage caught it because the same thing happens in escort now i was been i've been escort i know the deal i know i have fled out of room for my life or barely gotten out of there and couldn't couldn't close my eyes for a day or two because the guy strangled me so hard my eyes bulged of my head for a couple of days and it took two days for them to settle back in. and i was told just to go take the couple of days off and don't worry about their 40% because they give 40% or 50% of everything you make. this is not a a this is not a business where you taking home all the money. they get 40 to 50% of all your money. i think one of the one of the things that is striking about books, both of these books, and it speaks somewhat to what you're talking about. brenda, is that in this moment when most often if someone has been introduced to the idea of the sex trade, it's through a media representation and it is you to our faces and voices who have really lived it. and i'm with brenda you mentioned earlier your family and hannah. i was really struck by the complicated i love bohemian family so i was both drawn and felt the complexity of your own family history. but one of the things that is striking to me is our story that's coming forward in sharing your is also a whole family unit, a structure other people impacted. i know you write about sister, you write beautifully about members of your how did your family respond and to this journey of yours specifically the memoir. well, my mother sent me a picture last night. her book arrived. so this is the first time that she's reading it, she usually texts me every day and i have not received a text today and so i on one hand because she's read my work, not this particular book, but i do recall i had lied to her about one story not being published. my mother's men and i told her i didn't want her to to read out. i was worried about hurting her feelings. so she said, honey, how do you think i paid for that mercedes took a lot of --. so on one hand, she's very embracing of my history because she does know what you know, my background, the part about her is the hardest, not about me. mm. and. you know, i know what how my father, he's no longer. here. so for him to read specifically about the kidnaping i don't i, don't know how that would have been because. it's i think it is more talked about now in terms of there's more awareness because people have spoken up not nearly as much as there needs to be, but there's amber alerts now. for example, there not that back in 1976 when it happened. mm. well and neither that that was actually a very powerful point in your that was striking for me which is that you you both brenda you and hannah experienced childhood violence and there was no one who really up to fully what that was and what that meant and how it affected you over time. well, my grandmother, god rest her soul. i wish she was here. you know, my grandmother gave me the art of storytelling and she me strength and she did the best she could with what she had. you what? i mean, not that i don't think i would have made it if i didn't have a madea to give me what she gave. and as far as my family, well, my family's right over there. some of it. and my staff is right there, too. i think they're all proud of being because let me tell you something, it takes courage to do what her i do because pull up. you see, i've been out of the i've been out of all this stuff for like 26, almost 27 years and went in. and when i did the dreamcatcher documentary, it was cool because. i was talking about everybody else. but when i did this book, i had to go back to therapy because i dug up what a big shovel that i had worked on. bury all the good work i had, did all my lovely to make myself strong. i dug back up and i was sometimes in the in the house he even in going to but you know what it was a good going too because i still wasn't i grown like i needed to grow and this helped me up in set boundaries because. i still my little girl. needed some more work on. her and my little girl and to my little girl healed, my woman couldn't develop. and when i did this book, my little girl finally got what she needed. so woman could become better. now, you don't. you didn't know. maybe photo book, but i did. i already some --. i knew you before the book and you know now after this book you, you know and i'm getting better day because i got i had more to claim you know what i mean? and you know and i know we're talking about a lot about the human trafficking, everything. but i really want to talk, you know, how making leaps and bounds in helping people with book. what are books you? know what i'm saying? because we heal a lot of people with stuff, you know, and i don't want to leave here without letting y'all know how we we doing so much we helping a lot with not about because i don't want to talk about our page because it was a lot of pain cause you know if you read my and i want you to read my book i'll be outside it anyway. it's funny don't forget to laugh because i went through this with a since a humor that's was that's i believe god in a sense of humor because you know what it was so much stuff. i had to laugh it in and you got to laugh at it because i live through. right. you got to laugh at some of the stuff that i you know, i was doing, you know, like when i snatched my week, you know, to make the customers think i was a man, you know, so give me my money, you know, and i said, yes, i'm a man. give me your money. you know, i said, you know, just because they think they were awful, you know, i, you know what? i mean, they don't how powerful people can be. but anyway, i said do stuff like that, you know, because life had become to be crazy out there, you know. and i said, what can i do today to conquer the world, you know, you know, you get out there and just you by yourself. so you got to figure out something. know, i'm saying. and you said you used to cry all the dare shoot. i used to play dress up, you know, and you know any not to help not to commit suicide, you know what i mean? just today, not to help me, not to commit suicide. so i could get through last night with, somebody tried to kill me. or when somebody tried to hurt me, you know, because i was scared all the time, y'all. i was scared all the times she was talking about. that's what it you scared all the time because you had so many in a teaser issue. i think brenda you on something that i, i everyone buys these books starters and one of the things that struck me about both of these books was the way in which you went deeply painful places without an ounce of self-pity, although i think entitled to self-pity by the way and other pity, but also with a huge amount of humor and grace. mm hmm. and i'm wondering about that. if you think you could have written when were you ready to write that memoir? because i think it takes a while sometimes for us to get to state of grace. mm hmm. as writers and both of your books came from that place, they felt that way to me as a reader. so i had, if you want to start first, thank you for that question. love that for me the whole writing of the book. not have happened sooner or faster. and that was at times really challenging because i saw my i other authors that were doing really well their books were you know done and and here i was was very slow coming to the page word word was healing that the the part of showing up to the paper for myself and with myself was healing. and i too was in. and when i first started writing the book, i couldn't bear. i couldn't talk about myself, especially coming from a crystal meth. it's, you know, crystal meth, it's hard to say, or at least for me for a decade as. so and my greatest wish was to be a woman that could sit in her self, you know, and so the very process of coming the page, my i began with two pages a day and i, i, i just knew like goodness, kind of like a frenzy and i did for two years and by the third year i was able to sit a longer to transcribe it and then a little longer to you know, start to weave it together. and the other too is. i went back in and wrote for example, the sex scenes, especially with you know some of the particular sex scenes where you unsavory client. like only at the very end because that's when i was able to go back in and i had specific exercise so i disassociate leave my body because what. often you know in the sexual abuse is you leave your i am realizing i left my body and i've read people that that's what happens so the whole process a decade to come back in be able to sit and write that i anchored it you know my it was a whole routine to to get into the scene and i remember you know i had a really great mentor that woman i talked about in the beginning and i remember bringing her my pages on a sunday afternoon and she something's missing here. and i went back home and i dug little she was spot on. i wasn't sharing at all. and now and that chapter, when in the middle of the book that that scene is there but as a writer i love what you're saying about the words they have their own time books have their time. i mean, i think even our activism on on these issues, it has its own time. you're ready when you're ready or you're not. and what comes through in the the book is that you honored that i know i'm i'm getting nods we only have a couple more minutes so i want to ask a question that i hope both you will answer as i i admire have so much admiration for you both as writers and also as human human beings. you know, reading, reading these books and sort of falling a little bit in love with both of you and i think about who i see. and then i think about who you probably were long before i knew you. you know what you were like when you were 13. i can imagine from the book, but i can never know. and so i'm wondering and perhaps brenda, you could start what would you say to your 13 year old self knowing where you now i would tell you so my 13 year old clothes are laying eggs and going to soul train because i will use to sneak out to house and run downtown and soul train but anyway clothing close your legs and to school because i but i wasn't able you know i, i don't know what i you know, i could have said my 13 year old self because i was always at that time i was so damaged. i was so damaged. but i guess the biggest thing i would have i told is to tell somebody, you know i wish i had been brave enough to tell my 13 year old self. tell some body. hmm. yeah. tell somebody you're hurting. tell somebody what's going on. tell somebody. brenda, because i couldn't. couldn't open my mouth and tell nobody. i everything was my fault. every everything that they were doing to me was my fault. i didn't know how to not make it because that's what the, the the pedophiles were telling me. you it's your fault is your. and i believed them because i didn't have enough self-esteem i didn't have enough i didn't have anything in me to believe in myself. i was a good girl. i you know, i i was told all the time that i was a girl. you know, everything was my fault. i wish i believed in myself more. i wished i believed in brenda. and it seems like you could look at me and say, yeah, i agree. you know, i. i just think that got all the confidence in the world. no no, no, i my way up here, i don't. and as a a little girl, that was for me, i would have told my 13 year old self to tell somebody, hmm. trust somebody. you know, it's really beautiful. i. let's see. trying to think if i wanted to. i, i would have for my 13 year old self, i would have also said that, you know, it wasn't my. it wasn't my fault, you know, when i was taken, when i was six, i got trouble for that. so i internalize that was something wrong with me. and then when i had a babysitter and said didn't like him, he came back anyway. and this is not so my voice there was no voice. i was too scared to. share something because i got in trouble for it and for the 13 year old girl, i, you know, my whole life i had this like that gripping terror just in my heart. and this just like this, this ease and that, you know, just like that loneliness, that pit that pit of loneliness and not having anything hold on to and not hold on to myself. that 13 year old girl, i would tell her that one day she's going to love herself because. i hated myself so much. and i got into a business that that fed that that i hated myself more the more i did it and wasn't until i was 39 years old and got sober that there a glimmer of hope that maybe i'd be a woman one day i could go to the farmer's market and buy flowers for herself. i mean, that's a stretch that took a lot of years or organic basil, which i did last week. you know, it's a big deal. so i would tell her that there's going to be a day where you're not going to feel like you feel not all the time. thank here. i know we need close down. i do just want to say, if i could tell your 13 year old selves anything, it would be that you two are amazing. and so thank you. thank you. and do we have time for any questions or one or two questions? one, so we have time for one or two questions. and i think there's a mic there. anyone have a question they'd like to ask. you would go to the if you could the mic, we could take your question right at the microphone at the. thank you. oh, thank you. you may never get this chance again. a former prostitute and a stripper come on, now. you said drugs were. your problem that got you involved your need to financially do my finance your drug not at all. no not at all no. i did not start drugs before this all happened. i didn't drugs until the very end. it was the molest station, the abused and coming the environment that i came from that got me all messed up. it was mostly the the abuse and molestation that turned me into who that got me into what i did it had nothing to do with drugs. in fact, i stayed off drugs for a long time because. i got drugs out of addicts were horrible i wanted to be a pretty girl. i did not want to do drugs. i was i don't you see, i'm a diva hannah about you with the drugs that you needed to finance your drug. no, that was that wasn't. i wasn't. i was a call girl in stripping prior to that. the catalyst it you have to drugs you finally get into drugs because you you just can't stand it anymore and your drugs mary i mean your lifestyle marries drugs. you know it because you can't stand anymore. i appreciate you saying that, brenda, because i feel like that is a story that we we hear continually and the world really needs understand what the real factors are that drive women into the sex. so thank you and thank you hannah. i think i don't have a question. i just to applaud your courage and your resilience and your heart and your humor and your bravery. so thank you so much for sharing your story. you thank you. i would like to her, brenda. thank our moderator, forjeffre'h examines processes that shape people's sense of belonging and self and implications for social problems. he studies the big and small threats to belonging and self integrity the 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