In a celebrated with her 90th birthday yesterday. The arrow on this map points to the photos taken in 1919. They show anna grosz the parents. Samuel owned a vineyard and was a wine merchants for anna and her five sisters. The country fell under hungarian rule and it was subject to anti semitic laws. Under the new laws the families vineyard was confiscated and he was conscripted into the hungarian labor service. Samuel never returned home. This photo from 1943 shows ana and her sisters in order from left to right. There is clara, elizabeth, margaret, margarets daughter suzanne, violet, anna, and just sela. In march 1944 not see germany occupied hungary. Hungarian officials agreed to turn over hundreds of thousands of hungarian jews to the custody of the germans. Anna, her sisters, and her mother were placed into the ghetto indicated by the circle on this map. And then they were deported to ash wits. Auschwitz is indicated by the blue arrow on the map. Not see authorities selected anna and three of her sisters for forced labor while they sent her mother and two other sisters to the gas chambers. In june 1944 anna and her remaining Three Sisters were sent to a concentration camp indicated here with the red arrow. Later they were transferred to proudest, a sub camp and in february of 1945 the ss of that we did most of the prisoners including in his Three Sisters, marching them on foot. Soviet troops liberated them around march 11th 1945. Anna was left behind with other injured and sick prisoners because she had previously broken her leg. On march 23rd 1945 soviet troops liberated some 600 prisoners including her. She later reunited with her sisters and found out that her sister elizabeth had been shot during the forced march. We close with this photograph of anna in 1946. She would remain in romania until integrating to the United States in 1964. Anna, together with her husband, and two young sons, were allowed a much difficult way to leave romania and begin their life in the United States. They settled in new york where they want to work as a fabric cutter in new york citys garment district. And i found work as a seamstress in a clothing factory working with fellow hungarian speaking Holocaust Survivors and refugees. She worked at the same place for the next 27 years driving two and a half hours from work each day. After finishing high school the two sons attended university and went on to very successful careers and are now retired. Alex was an attorney at the u. S. Patent office. Andrew was a geologist with the federal government. And it has four children and a five year old great grandson. After the retirement she moved to the washington d. C. Area, in 2003. Her husband suffered a stroke in 1999 and annette cared for him until he passed away in 2009. Anna was also the character for one of her sisters prior to her death. And then, for her husband, she now volunteers for this museums volunteer services. You will find her at the visitors dusk from 10 am to 2 pm. She has spoken about her holocaust experience to children at local schools. For example she recently spoke to 500 students at a high school in west virginia. Her son alex and her niece suzanne must suzanne also volunteers at the museum and with that i would like you to join me in opening and welcoming our first person misses anna grosz. Anna, thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you for being our first person. We have so much for you to share with us. We have so little time. We will start right away. You were just 13, anna, when world war ii began with germanys invasion of poland on september 1st, 1939. Before we turn to all that happened to you and your family during the war, and the holocaust, lets start with you telling us a little bit about your family, your community, and your years before the war began. Yes, hello, first, friends, thank you for coming to my story. I have to tell you that bill made a mistake. I am not 90 because i turned the nine into a six, like this. I am 60, i am not 90. [applause] i have a short time to tell my story. But, i will try to take the essence from this. In one year, the family and all of us jewish people what happened to us is unbelievable. The torture, the humiliation, and something that i sometimes think, am i still normal . I doubt it, sometimes. So, before the war we had a nice family life. My father was a wine merchant. I had five sisters so, six girls. The older girls went to high school. The younger girls were in school. I was only 14 years old won the hungarian occupied transylvania, everyone we know, they made the horror movies from this place so everyone knows that. The first thing they did was that they stopped the jewish people to go to high school. So, that was the first thing, the tragedy for me. I could not go to High School Like my older sisters. Anna, im going to ask you a couple of questions before we go there, if you do not mind. I hope later you will talk more about what that loss of education meant to you. Your father, he had been a decorated soldier in the First World War had anti, yes . , he was. In the First World War he was in hungary. And because the germans lost the war, then, in the First World War also, it became romania. And the same thing happened in the Second World War because the hungarians were giving it back to the hungarians. So, that is why we became hungarians again. My father married my mother in romania so he remained in romania. As i said before. One more question. You told me that your parents, felt your mother and father were very respected members of the community. Will you tell us a little bit about them . Yes, they were very honored people. My father was a very correct man and everybody who was brought the band brandy from him they in advance knew that he would deliver it 100 , if he sold it. So, my parents, i have no school education. I have it from my parents and my very strict grandmother who was very strict with us. They taught us manners and disciplined. So when he died i was not so sorry for her because i did not like what he wanted me to do. Let me go back to the family life. We lived in peace. Everybody had their job. My older sisters in school, they did not go to school because we had a little business at home, or so. We had a textile store. And, i helped out my father with going to the vineyard and arranging for workers, and everything. One day we did not know anything was happening in the world. We had two stations on the radio. Budapest and bucharest. We did not know what happened in the war and the julie germans occupied the, already in germany, or something. Nothing about the war. Only when they occupied transylvania, and then changed everything. Schools, offices, everything in hungarian from romania. Not long after that started they took away the license from the store. They did not let jewish people out without a yellow star. They could not keep non jewish help. So, all, like, the others, they were not allowed to go to the street without the yellow star. It made transylvania was occupied on march. And the fourth march, 140. 1940. 1940 in 1944 hungry was the last country that the germans occupied. From the whole of europe. In 1940, so, when they did all these things to us that they did not let us out, the humiliation, even a deep sea said, i am what i am but i am not a jew. So, we were totally humiliated. And, to me, that is even worse than suffering the humiliation. And, anna, after the hungarians did all these terrible things to you. They took away your family business. They took away your textile business. They took away everything. How did your family, with a lot of mouths to feed, how did your family manage to make it . My father took care of that before. We had flowers, we had bread, we had brandi, that we sold. Because, we had a brandi machine, also. A steal, they call it. And we sold that. And it was enough even to help other people. So, it came the day, and family by family, they took all of us in the synagogue. They said that we could take food with us for four days. Anna, do you mind if i go back and ask you a few questions . Before that happened your father was conscripted into one of the hungarian labor battalions. Tell us about that. Well, the worst thing was that, the first thing, and the worst thing, was that they tech forced labor on all the young men from about 18 to 45, or so. They took all the men who were the heart of the people and kept them there with the children and the old pepper. They took them to forced labor to, in the country, and also in other parts of hungary. They worked so hard. They tortured them. I still do not have the answer for that. If they wanted to kill us, because we were the enemy, the jewish people, then why did they have to torture us before that. Why did they do that before the killing . You know, one example, they did not do it to me but my husband. It was to jewish people there who were forced laborers. And the hungarians, a soldier who was the guard with them said you say that you are a stinky jew. And they said, the man said, why should i say that . And he said, because i told you so. So, he said, if you do not say that you are a stinky to i am going to beat you. So, he said it. He went to the other people, and he said, you say that its also. That you are a stinky to. And he said, why should i say that . I am a college professor. If you do not say that i am going to beat you. He did not say that. And he started to beat him. Until he was half dead. Then he said, i am a stink you do. So, this is a similar humiliation that happened. Which i can not say all of them, but it happens. Let me go back. Yes, you are going to tell us about your father. They took him away and you never saw him again. My father was sent in a camp. He was a translator for a while from german to hungarian. And he sent a postcard for us in budapest. There was a camp and we never heard from him after that, of him. We dont know what happened to him. We did not know what happened. After we were taken the whole little town of 50 jewish families, they took us in the synagogue and we stayed there for about two or three days. And that synagogue, the children, and the old people, they slept on the floor. It was a terrible thing. We did not know why. And we did not know what would happen after that. After four days they put us in carriages. The nonjewish people had to carry us about 37 kilometers from our homes. And this was in a ghetto where only to us people lived. They took the houses from non jewish people to have room there. We did not stay too long there. And then they said take food for four days with you. And we still did not know what happened. I should not say that was a surprise. It was a shock to us. Because, it came only that we did not know what happened before that inter full in the world. So, in that ghetto we stayed there for about sleeping on the floors. Mostly children. And old woman. It was men who were not there. After four days they took i do not know how many people. They took them to the train station. They put them in a van there. And then, they took our family. I was the 92nd in that. We did not know where our mother, or sister was. They pushed us in. And it was a borough in the corner of the van. And, who had to go out . They did it there. From time to time the van would open. But to stay for four days and that train, the children cried. The old man prayed. Some of them cursed. Why did this happen to us . It was, i tried to take one of my most terrible days from the whole deportation of that life. I thought, its that one, the traveling for stays and after that they let us out in auschwitz. Later i find out that that was not the most terrible day in my life. They let us out at night. We were all dizzy and did not know what happened to us. There were dogs barking. There were german soldiers who were fast. They took us to a place. And music played. Jewish music was playing. They played the music. They want to the chaos to make it a little bit more supportive. So they took us to a door. A german officer came with a stick. My sister had, my older sisters baby. It was a three Year Old Girl in her hands. It came a man to her. He said, is this your baby . And she said, no. And then she said, give it to her mother because if a baby is taken away from the mother they try to cry. So, she gave it back to the mother. But, if she would not be warned that if she gave it back then she would have to go in the left side where the people were killed. They did not make a difference. They just said one will live and one multi. So my mother, my older sister with the baby, and my younger sister, 14 years old, were taken to one side. And elizabeth, my older sister of 25, gisele a, 20, and i was 18, and clara was 16, on another side. They took us in a room. They first of all had to take off all our clothes. And then we had to sit in a chair. They took us and cut off our hair. And anywhere we had hair. I do not know what i felt because i do not think that i felt anything. I was so tired from the four days of traveling in that train. What happened to me, it happened. I could not comprehend what happened. So, all the four of his sisters were taken in another room. We were disinfected with some white dust. After that we got a great dress with a number on the sleeve. They did not have time to fit us, like other people, or tattoo us, like other people. We were the last people who were occupied and deported. Hungary was the last country. You told me, there were just so many coming in from hungary they did not have the time to test to you. Yes, that is right. They did not have the time. Because, there are so many, the last ones. Many places, already, the world was over, already. They still put the jewish people in trains and supported them to auschwitz. And many people at that time, that is what hungry did and they were already liberated in some places. And it was a 1940 for that we were in auschwitz. People slept there. And one person explained that you were chosen. She was from czechoslovakia. She was there for four years, already, in the concentration camp. She spoke hungarian, also. They asked her, what is happening to us . Where are our parents . And she said, you see, you see that there is smoke. You see that. There are parents. It was very close the auschwitz block by where the size 12 was moved. And we heard that she was crazy. She did not even know the word crematorium. And how about believe that they killed there, in the crematorium. They did not believe this. So, they took us an auschwitz, put us in some bass where our covering was. Every day we had to stay that they counted us. They counted us in the morning and at night. The food was terrible. Some beans and greens were cut. A little piece of margarine was allowed in the morning, and a very small piece of bread. We had to stay in the line. We always stayed in the line, at night, and in the morning. They did choose people who were very skinny, and were very fat. They took them away and we never heard from them again. People who were strong looking, they were looking for them. But they always did that selection. All the time, when we were there, we one day said that we choose people for work. They were so happy for sisters and for people of the town. We go for work and it is anywhere but not seeing here. So, they chose us for work. All four of us, we had to hide elizabeth, my older sister. She was skinnier than the three of us and smaller. So they chose us for work. There were 800 of us who looked fit to work, that is what they said. They took us to where we stayed for one day. And by the train they took us there and we saw the sun. We saw the nature. Oh, we thought, what a nice thing that we presented to go to work. We had pride. So, when we arrived they did, again, the selection. We were not all good for work but the four of us still remained there with the sisters. I would like to jump in for a minute. In addition he would line up five in a row and beside you and your Three Sisters there was a fifth woman who stayed with you throughout. Yes, we had to stay fit. Five in a row. So we had one person there who had nobody there. No sisters, nobody. She is still alive. She is 94 years old and she has dementia. So, they took you to a place called proust which was a brand new camp. Yes, they took us to proust which before was a big farm. The place was not ready yet to work so we had to, it was terribly hot. The stone was burning. And whoever had a short sleep breath, and short dress, we had to go to a place and that would be in our bed. All day long we had to do that. And some girls put some paper under their legs to cover it. One the paper was summoned, they took it off, and it came off with the skin. What did they do . They sent them back because they could not work anymore. And then they brought new people. Instead of them. Of course, we never heard of them. It was another crematorium. You told me, it was always 100 women, if you are saying. So somewhere else, they sent them back, and then they would send back the same number. So you had 800. And then you are forced to do exceptionally hard labor. Can you tell us about that . Well, we had to do an airport from that big you are forced to build an airfield . Yes, we had to take, first, the vegetable from that farm. It was carrots. There were a few potatoes. We were told that we could not take from there to eat. Because, we are going to be punished for that if we do it. But, we were very hungry because in the first few days when we arrived there was no food. There was no water. , the water was rusty so we could not drink or eat. And some people still took a carrot and ate it or a potato, or something. But, the number was here on the sleeve. And the guy saw that. They took the number and, at night, when we went home, from work the guard gave it to, there were two woman. I think they were at least 250 or 30 pounds. That was their job. They were the ones doing the punishment. And also, to the food arrange meant for us. In the first night the guy gave the number. The girls took the food. The punishment was like that. She had to bend and the two devils, i do not know how to call them, they gave 25 lashes on the back. And the next day they have to present for work. No matter how they felt. That was the first day and we did not know the punishment would be. So the work started. The work was to fill the sand. A train came. It filled the cars. Another train came. Another and all day we had to fill the cars with sand. So, just to be sure, you were filling train cars full of sand. That was your job to fill sand. It was not full of sand. For example, my sister, clara, she could not work as hard because she was 16, like us. Then she had to work harder to get the car full. I do not know how to say it in english. It looks like this, somehow. It is not like this. That does not matter. And the sand was used, then, to make the pavement. Yes, to make the pavement. And french war prisoners were far away from us. They built the hangar to get the airplanes in at night. I think they still have it here, too. I never saw children. That is what happened. We had this work. Very little food. That is what we did all summer. Then, we had a guard with us. There were many guards. One, we had from romania. He spoke in romania. He was a nice guy. He never gave a number to the german woman who was his girlfriend. ,. ,. We had to stay and see the punishment, like this. We had to have our hands up. We did not have dinner until all the people were inside from outside. And then they get the dinner. I do not know, that was a sadist thing to do. I do not know why i repeat again. Why did they have to torture us before they killed us . I do not know that. Many things, i do not. Finally, i have to make my story short. It came christmas time. They wanted us to entertain them. So they provide a piano, violin, and there were many talented people. Opera singers, and they said, everyone should go who has a talent. I left out something. That romanian soldier somehow regretted, but he had to go in the army, in the german army. He liked me to sing for him romanian songs. Popular ones, and ballads. Every time he was with us he wanted me to sing for him. That time, i had a very pretty voice. It was inherited from my mother. The Christmas Party came. All the people were there. They presented what they do. I was sitting on top of a bed in a bunk bed, there. I was just watching. And then, the romanian soldier came to me and he said, why did you come and not sing, also. I wanted you to sing in romanian, also. And i said, i do not think that i was such a talent to go there. But, he said, i want you to come. And he let me go up from, go down from the bed. And i fell. I broke my leg. Now, with the small sickness they send you back to people because they needed another person who is able to work who was sick for two days. They send you back. Now, i thought, this is my end. Because, with a broken leg what can they do . So, my sister begged the officer, the soldier, i think, to not send me back to that place. And because he, somehow, felt guilty because he wanted me to go to sing, and the one who decided to send back people, because it was his girlfriend, the big woman who did the punishment, they put it as a miracle. They put my leg in a cast. Never happened, never heard of any medical like this. So, they put my leg in a cast in the morning. My leg became like this swollen. They had to take it off and put another cast on. No injection, no putting need to sleep, or something. But i survived. I do not know. A human being can survive everything. I think his own death, also. I think i am never going to die. I am going to survive my death, too. So, anna, after you broke your lake and this miracle occurred, they put a cast on you. It was not long after that but they emptied proust. Three weeks after that started they tuck the people from all of the camps. They took them to march. The crematorium could not destroyed them. Because, the war was very shortly ending. All of the people had to march away from the camp. And, when the time came that our camp had to leave, i could not work. So, they took off my shoes. Because, another 26 people were chosen who could not march. A few guards, and the people who cooked their. Because, other camps came and stayed there for a night. And after that they marched further. So, then, our camp, it was the time to march my Three Sisters. They were able to march but i was not able to with the other 26 people who could not work. You were left behind. I was left behind. I took off my shoes. Because, i do not need shoes. The 26 army people are going to be killed, dead. I did not even yes, they put some in our food. They did not let us think. It is called a medication, or something. So we could not even be clearly thinking. He left me there. I thought, i am going to stay here by myself. Im going to be killed, and my Three Sisters will be left. I could not even cry. I was sitting there and the second miracle happened to me. One miracle was that they put my lake in a cast. It never, never, nowhere, happens. And then, a girl came who worked in the kitchen. She asked me, could you do some sowing . I said, yes, my mother wanted all of us to learn some sewing and then she said we are making some civilian clothing for the s s. And if you can so you can come with us and do that job. She provided me with shoes and i survived my death. They took me there and i said, what happened . The camps, all night, they came from other camps. They marched for a long time, already. Every day, died, i do not know how many people. They made a big hole. A big, big hole and just threw the dead bodies in the whole. And when the time came that our people wanted to go, the guards, the girl who i helped with the selling, she came to me. She said, you stay here. Because, you are going to be liberated. We have to go with them. They want us to go with them. So, our camp left, also. And i remained there. For two days it was quiet. And then, we heard that the whole airport had blown up. But, it was bombed from one place to the other in a wire. And they blew out the whole. The germans blew up their own airfield . Yes, the whole airport. And a block also blew out with it. They were purple they were dead also. But, i could already walk a little bit. And a few other people. And we walked, and hid in the basement where they used to keep the food. So, for another two days it was quiet. We had someone who came out from the basement. I came out, also. I felt very dizzy. I saw, from far away, two dots. Those two dots became bigger, and bigger. And they became to russian soldiers. So, that meant that we were liberated. We came more russian soldiers. But, when i came out from the basement i was dizzy. I was sick. I got the in the basement. Russian people did not care too much of us. They still were searching for germans their. But, they took me and, i dont know, i really could not think. I woke up in a house. They turned it into a hospital. And i was saying that, i do not know, maybe two weeks or so i did not know what happened to me. When i woke up i saw a russian nurse, dead, near me. She died of typhus. And no hair, again. They cut my hair the second time. Which my hair had grown. In a year, there. And they gave me some clothing. Because they took my old clothes. It was filled with lies. I never knew that clothes could be lies also. But, in our hair, i did not think that i have lice. Because i was working with those people. And they took off my hair. They gave me an outfit. I did still like to see a skirt, like a sack, and a blouse. And nothing on my head. They said, now you can go. So go. Now i was liberated. What can i do . Anna, in the little time we have left one of the things you said to me is even though you were liberated you did not feel happy, at all. That is what i said. I am getting there. I was out from that hospital. I saw, and i never saw this the whole year. But i saw myself in a window. I looked at myself, you know, lost weight, in that outfits that i had, and no hair, and i think i started to laugh. That was my first laugh. I saw the way i looked. And i go somewhere. So, i did not know where to go. I heard somewhere, music. The polish people and the french were prisoners. And they started to celebrate the peace. It was march the 23rd, and then i heard music. Music is still my life. So i want to hear the music. I did not know how i looked, or something. I was sitting like this. And once someone came to my back, and he said, mademoiselle, and i had the second laugh. Mademoiselle, me. A french prisoner came and i turned and he asked me to dance. He asked me to go to dance. And then i started to cry. So, i spoke hungarian. He spoke french. But we understood each other. He found out who i was. I found out who he was. But i did not go to dance with him. And then later, he came with a pack of cigarettes and a piece of bread. And he said, also, in french, french is a little bit similar to romanian. And i understood that. If i wanted him to take me to paris, to france, and i thought, yes, that is what i want to do now. To go to france. So i did not know where my sisters are. I knew, unfortunately, that it is true. But i did not want to believe that my parents are still in the smoke. And all of a sudden people went around, all the people who were liberated, and a girl came to me and looks and says, dont you have a sister . And i said, yes, i do. And one, clara. I was there. That is what i remember. I never knew where i put my keys. But i remembered what happened then. And everything i remembered. I could go with closed eyes and find my bed, or anything, what happens there. So she said, your sisters are liberated. And she said, clara, and gives ella, and how about elizabeth i asked . She said, she was shot when she was marching. On the day of the liberation. The germans shot her because she could not walk. So i found out that two of my family members are alive. I had to believe, but this was true. I did not want to believe. I did not want to leave. I did not know where my sisters are, even if they are alive. We went from one train station to another. We were liberated and nobody helped us. Not with food, not with going home. I told them that an airplane would come and take us away. But for two months it did not come. No airplane. And nobody cared for us, at all. And i am thinking which was my most terrible day in my life. It is hard to find one. Because, there are more terrible days in my life. But the most terrible day was when my two sisters came home, we met, in our empty house, house, knowing that this is the three of us, young girls, not trained for life, not knowing what to start with our lives. To leave and how . There was another problem. There were no men to marry because they all were killed in the forced labor. Another terrible thing happened to me. I saw in a person my mothers dress. On the street. I got hysterical inside, in my empty house. I couldnt go out or Say Something to her. After that, when we started a new life, by the time oh, i thought this is brandi this is just water you cheated me. I have the brandy. I could talk another three hours. Anna, we are going to close the program in just a moment. We will soon be the close of our program we do have time for a couple questions. I want you to know that these are traditional first person the first person has the last word. Before we finish, im gonna turn back to ana again to close our program. Needless to say, we were only able to just catch a glimpse of all she shared with us. We could have talked for three more days. Oh, yeah. [laughs] we dont even begin to touch upon is what happened after the war. Not only immediately after the war, the circumstances that anna began to describe for us, getting married. And then spending the next 19 years living under communist rule before anna and her two sons and family were able to leave and come to the United States. We could have a whole afternoon just beginning to touch on the. Im going to ask you if you would please stay seated with us. Because anna well get the last word. We want you to hear what he has to say. After anna concludes the program, im gonna ask you all to stand. I would photographer, joel, is gonna take a picture of anna with you as the backdrop. That makes for a wonderful photograph for anna and all of us. And then anna, when shes done, will remain on the stage here. Please, absolutely feel free to come up and ask her a question, shake her hand, give her a hug, take a photograph, whatever you would like to do. I want to thank all of you for being with us today. Mind you, we will have a First Person Program each wednesday and thursday through the middle of august. We hope that you can come back. Also, for our remaining programs in april, we will live stream them. He will have an opportunity to also here on the internet. We hope that you do. Very briefly, we have time for a couple questions. Im gonna turn first to a question from our twitter audience. As im doing that, id ask that if anybody would like to ask a question, we will have time for just a couple, please go to one of two microphones in the aisle, if you would, and line up there. This will give you a moment to get their. We wont get everybodys question but anna will remain with us behind. A question from our twitter audience. We do question one of two from students at the middle school. Anna, what a experiences or transitions did you find with your faith . Did you lose your faith in god . P. S. , our students are loving this opportunity to hear you and talk to you. What you . I have an answer for. I was raised to believe in god. Many of us lost their faith because they asked, why did god let happen this, that innocent people . I think like that, god has nothing to do with this. People did that. People did that to us. Any bad thing what happens, not god did it. People does that to us. Thats what i believe. Thank you, anna. Think you. Anybody from the audience . If not, we have one here. I think this will probably be our one question from the audience. Again, please, when anna it is done, please talk with her and ask any questions you would like. Make your question as brief as you can. I will repeat it just to make sure everybody here is it and anna can respond. Thank you so much. We will never forget you. My question is, during the years of communism in romania, where you persecuted again for being jewish . The question is, during your years in romania where you persecuted for being jewish. During your years in romania after the war, the 19 years you remained there, where you persecuted for being jewish. Not for being jewish. But do not communist, that you want to leave the country, which we did, could not have the same rights or could not go also to high schools. The same like the hungarians did. It wasnt a pleasure to live in a communist country because you have a job. But it was so little, i dont know how to say, that you couldnt live with it. You had to do something with one word, steele. If you stole, if they found it, they put you in jail. They say there were three kinds of people in romania. Who is in jail, who was in jail, and who will be in jail. So we were very happy when, after 19 years, they let us out from romania. Israel and america paid for our passports. We were lucky that my two children was young enough to continue here their education. So thats my answer. If you have another answer, i have something without asking me i would say that you buy a house, the agent says is location, location, location. I would say, education, education, and education. [applause] because they took that away from me. I miss it for all my life. There are so many things that i would enjoy and love if i would have the education. They not let me do that. They took that away from us. Thats like they would take my arm from me, because all my rest of the family, they were educated. But i was exactly that age when romania was occupied. I was 14, finishing the summer, elementary school. Thats what i say. You have the opportunity here to have the education. That nobody can take it away from you. Its more than millions of dollars that education that you have. But dont ask me one question, which this is not my first time that im here. I have a question. I dont know. It was a young girl, and she asked me, do you forgive and forget what they did to you . And i said, no. I cant. And i dont want to. Because when took jesus christ to crucify, he said that dont punish them, god, because they dont know what they are doing, right . But the germans knew what they are doing. How can i forgive and forget . This is not a small thing to forgive and forget. I will not and i wont forgive and forget. Thank, you anna. So dont ask me that question. Anything else. I think we are ready now to close the program. Anna, thank you so very much. I thank you all for listening to me. I could talk for more than an hour. They made a good choice with me to talk because i was punished as a small girl to talk too much. [laughs] [applause] anna, as many ofu