Civil security office. Todays forum will be available later at our website, cspan. Org. [inaudible conversation]. [inaudible conversation] good afternoon everybody. I have about 10 minutes so if you would start making your way back here, that would be great and we look forward to a great second panel. [inaudible conversation]. [inaudible conversation] now the senate comes back today at 3 00. Of course, coverage here on cspan2. They are back from their july 4 recess and we had a chance to get a preview of the earlier from a capitol hill reporter. Joe gould is congressional reporter with defense news. What does the Defense Authorization bill and what in the version, the 2018 version approved by the Council ArmedServices Committee . The house Armed Services past its national Defense Authorization act for 2018 earlier or sorry, late last month and what it is is the bill, the annual defense policy bill. It gets reconciled with a cent version and in this case they authorized about 696 billion dollars in funding and related policy provisions for the pentagon. Thats 696 billion figure, exceeds the set in the budget control act. How will congress reconcile that . Thats a huge question. The budget for defense in this case, the number to know is 549 billion. So what it would take to ease the spending caps is a change in the law and a change in the law takes 60 votes in the senate and 60 votes in the senate takes Senate Democrats so what we know is if Senate Democrats have leverage in this deal that there likely to press for more on the nondefense side of the budget which is likely the lower on the defense side of the budget so that 596 number that were talking about is likely to come down. What sort of investments does this bill called for in ships and planes and things like that . Whats interesting about this bill is that weve heard from the white house or from the president definitely on the campaign trail about a largescale military buildup but we dont really see that in this bill. The white house number was about 603 billion excluding wartime funds, special wartime funds and so the republicans who are prodefense have criticized it as you little but we do see a number of ships, jets, even core structure that exceeds what the Trump Administration has asked for. The headline at defense. Com with a picture of the chairman of the committee, house Armed Services panel overwhelmingly approving the Armed Service , the defense measure but also includes a new branch of the military, the space core. How did this come about, what would that entail . Thats actually a fairly controversial provision within the bill that was discussed markup. So mike rogers, a republican from alabama who chairs the Strategic Forces subcommittee and his democratic counterpart jim cooper have both expressed some frustration with a case in which the us is keeping up with russia and china, demilitarization space so what they want to do is they want to break out a new space core, a zone force sort of subordinate to the air force but outside the air force and theres been pushback from other members of the Armed Services committee, not just democrats butrepublicans who say this needs more study. The air force itself feels like its an additional layer of bureaucracy. And of course its going to have to get reconciled with the senate Armed Services committees version of the bill doesnt contain. Is passed out of the bill overwhelmingly and tell us what may be ahead in the Senate Debate on authorization . Typically the authorization bill gets, passes in the house and gets a wide array of support. Right now as were talking about, theres 90 amendments that the rules committee is considering. Next week they plan to meet on tuesday to hear from the house Armed ServicesCommittee ChairmanMax Thornberry and the Ranking Member adam smith. And then on wednesday, theyre going to, the rules committee that is is going to consider amendments and whether they are in order to be considered on the floor. So what weve been told to expect is Floor Consideration on thursday and potentially a vote on friday, although thats in the hands of the house leadership. Joe gould covers congress for defense news. Read his reporting defensenews. Com and hes also on twitter at reporter joe. Thank you for being with us. Were back after conference on the failed to in turkey. Last july. The panel coming up will look at security and Foreign Policy institute attempt an earlier we heard from speakers looked at the reasons behind the action. The conference heard from the military head of turkeys Civil Security office. All that available later online, just visit cspan. Org and our video library. On cspan2, the senate dabbling in in about an hour and 15 minutes, 3 pm eastern time. They are back from their july 4 recess and working today on the nomination for a Regulatory Affairs director nominee at the office of management and budget, a confirmation vote scheduled for 5 30 eastern followed by a vote to advance a judicial nomination. On communicators tonight at 8 pm, we will take a look at the coming 5g network, what that means for consumers and also how to build out broadband to rural areas. On wednesday Judiciary Committee taking up a nomination, that of Christopher Ray to be the next fbi director. Hes going to or may replace james comay was fire earlier this year. Live coverage of his hearing 9 30 a. M. Eastern on cspan3. [inaudible conversation]. [inaudible conversation]. [inaudible conversation]. [inaudible conversation]. [inaudible conversation]. [inaudible conversation] july the attempts. One of the difficulties we face in turkey is to explain this advance of our International Concert path. Its really very complicated and difficult to express and one of the difficulties, one of the mysteries of this event is also how turkey tackles fighting against three terrorist organizations and also how turkey is dealing with Foreign Policy challenges in this new era. Of course, forces are very difficult and we have the background to understand these area so we will have four distinguished guests today. We will try to understand what happened in terms of Foreign Policy and Security Issues on the july 15 through attempt and also some backgrounds about this allotment. So we will have four speakers , ambassador james jaffe who is the distinguished fellow at Washington Institute for us policy. Our second speaker will be professor dinesh from europe technical university, she is an expert on Foreign Policy. Our third speaker is richard poussin who is a Us Army Advisor and member of postatlantic Us Department of state and also our fourth speaker is chair of Security Studies at sata foundation and International Create relations at sekhar university and mister ambassador,. Let me tackle this from two stent standpoint. One is the situation related to the crew and how that impacted bilateral relations. Secondly, the much broader context of american turkish bilateral relations in the context of the middle east and eurasia. Turkey of course was extremely fortunate to have survived a coup of this breadth and depth and danger. The United States has many as he pointed out, was expected to embrace a democratically elected government facing a military coup and there was great disappointment. I was involved peripherally outside the administration in the decisions in the first few hours and i can assure you this was not a deliberate action by the administration. Rather, any of you who have followed president obama in the press or as i have worked with him know that he doesnt make decisions quickly. He likes to have all of the facts and there was an effort to gather facts from many of us outside government and inside government to find out whats going on. That led to the delay and that was unfortunate because in circumstances like that, you have to act immediately and we didnt so thats the first blow. The second blow was in some of the military commanders whose focus is entirely on isis, i want to underline that because i understand the Foreign Policy context of where were going to be, when theres no more isis, American Military will finally no longer have the words wanted for 20 years. One they can win in everything else, was doing well and suddenly this was interlocutors could be talked with, so these generals just blurted out the first thing that came to their mind. Whats going on and why is it shannon as you know the generals who run the war in syria and iraq are not the generals who report to our european command and worry about and work with and cooperate with turkey. There were problems there but the bigger problem is the embarrassing fact that the political man is sitting in the United States and turkey has in accordance with an extradition treaty dating back to the early 1980s has asked for his extradition and the administration has yet to really give a response that understandably turkey would find acceptable. Thats going to continue for some time because of the nature of the court system in america which not only turks but donald trump has discovered how very, very independent and they are slow to take decisions. Nonetheless and here has a point, the administration could do more to reign in this organization, the allegedly Charitable Educational factions of an organization which at best is opaque and at worst, as many directors believe i think, was behind the school. The only good news out of this thing a year later is there is as far as i can see no reputable media think tank, or otherwise another actor whose appeared to challenge the idea that this crew was as you heard this morning from two of your speakers mainly or largely done by, people have questioned what came after and that will continue but there hasnt been any major challenge to that. To the contrary, many independent journalists, americans as well as turkish and others have come to the conclusion that the os was behind it so that argument is not in play between our two governments. What remains in play on the bilateral level is first of all turkish visions that began on the evening of july 15 and have continued, the very difficult problem of extraditing glenn and largely concern in washington that the turkish government has gone too far in dismissing people from government jobs or prosecuting them because of one or another time or alleged type to that movement. This is tied up with the overall discomfort of many in america where turkey is going politically. Economically, not in terms of security or diplomacy but politically. Again, thats not the center of american concerns, at least administration concerns is a big role in the media. Plays a big role in congress and its something that both sides will have to watch. In terms of the broader issue of Foreign Policy, the basic bishop issue is that the global system that both america and turkey have participated in and very much benefited from his undergrad. In the middle east, its under threat by iran to some degree, the sunni radical extremist groups. And now russia joining iran and in europe its under threat by russia. This is something that both the United States and turkey are aware of. President erdogan has spoken repeatedly of an expansionism that needs to be dealt with, thats a different approach than for example the salaries take where it has seen much more apocalyptic religious terms but in erdogans perception appears to be more of a strategic challenge and in turkey has taken certain steps to buttress it self against this. This is an area of considerable cooperation and coordination between the two countries. Im optimistic about that. The key issue will be syria after isis is defeated which could be and when i say isis is defeated i mean as a state and an army, not as an idea or as a terrorist group but as a state and an army, it will be defeated in the weeks ahead. So the question is what do we do with syria and what do we do with iraq afterwards. There is a general problem of chaos particularly in syria. Theres the problem of iran and its surrogates from hezbollah to iraqi militias operating in this region, of great concern to many of us and for turkey, theres the problem of the ytd and cyp, the political and military and political wings of the syrian basically wing of the pkk. Essentially, people in america know this because this is our primary ally against isis and isis remains the priority right now. The United States is communicating and continuing to work with the ytd, the uid and the guys at the Syrian Democratic forces but we know who provides most of the fighting power and particularly the leadership which is the light e. G. , the kurdish military. That problem is going to remain or some time. What will change it however, at least on the margins is first of all after isis is finished, the United States and turkey are going to be sitting and to some degree with this new agreement, jordan and israel as silent partners are going to be sitting on a considerable amount of syrian territory. That have been well defended against anybody who tried to push into it. Working with local forces who however disorganized and leveraging at each others throats, none of whom want to go back under resident aside. The syrian regime. In an environment where the whole region is concerned about iran building on the defeat of isis and iraq and syria to expand its hold over the northern middle east area that will be the big question. I would like to say this is where the United States is going to be, i dont know where turkey is but there will have to be some kind of coordination. All i can say is nobody knows yet where the United States is on this. This is a difficult problem. Weve tackled iran before, we were successful in the iran war approaching it back when