The green bay with a book signing this is my third book the second was the poisoning of america says soldiers anybody have any questions . There were two of them that you mentioned. We captured abu zubaydah 2002 the cia officer was the person who captured him. Before he was captured there was set biography put out by the Rand Corporation as well as a little bit of information that he was born in saudi arabia and raised in the gaza strip and palestine enjoined the egyptian and Islamic Jihad and then to pakistan joining al qaeda and rand of Training Camp so, to find out most of that is not true. But it fits abu zubaydah cousin who lived in all those places like palestine but actually lived in florida he was a pilot and lived a mile away from the aisle hijackers and move to montana and bought a 5,000acre ranch and bought travelers checks that was located which he was going to library to lou continuously steady in montana and florida and a very shady character connected with the al qaeda spy is in wanted to believe that he wanted to blow up the dam. It is hundreds of thousands of farm land and eight bridges. Right before err 9 11 the ninth door tenth of september his house blood on his property. Federal agents picked him up on the 19th of september and they put him in custody and they charge to march 28 and then they captured abu zubaydah and then he disappears i had investigators look all over he disappears until 2004 then he is interviewed in the of middle east and saw him in his prison in jordan but before i get a second interview three weeks before the first time he was on the pakistan the afghan border. So there is a lot of suspicion but what confronted these peoples biography is that is where they got confusion. He is being held but he had a shady past as well so the charges of the other one. E was not a good guy he forged documents with the jihadi Training Camps and was of master forgery. John captured him from cia custody to put him into custody at guantanamo. We know more about this guys a and anybody. But it is just so confusing and 02 understand that concept and a the history of afghanistan is hard. It is ridiculously hard. So you mentioned those that were associated . That is the chapter everybody captured that night is no longer living. His best friend is no longer living. Anybody to get more answers is now one. One of them died september 9th 2006. I saw those three guys taken to the cia black site which is very topsecret but it has been revealed from my first book. Then all three came back to bed that night from the cia cite. When i say black site a facility not supposed to be in guantanamo outside of the duty facility one of those that was in the state house with abu zubaydah. So no weighing of story this is in today saying it is would you say this is indicative of them that have captured certain people . Is that a bigger problem than what we are aware of . We have some really bad people in guantanamo that should never see the light of day again. But that is my opinion. We should try abies people. There are now held without due process that is not american in my belief. Is an argument for that i am understand that they are not prisoners of war they are detainees and enemy combatants but actually that is covered under the Geneva Convention and in the 1940s recovered people who were not in its uniform specifically the Freedom Fighters from france. With the French Resistance against the german army. That was blowing up with those soldiers and families movie theaters and restaurants so they were terrorists but in a way a lot of the people should be in jail but should have due process without making them prisoners of war. They are not charged or tried so thereve guilty of what they did put them in federal court and charged them. I believe we should charge them with crimes if they deserve it. And the problem with some of the people we have down there is with the initial invasion of afghanistan we were giving bounties to people who would turn in the al qaeda members afghanistan is very tribal. We found out enemy tribes were turning in other troubled members for the 5,000 for the operative that is a one years salary so when i got it than that shall marry have a lot of older farmers and people that should not have been there. It was george h. W. Bush that freed a lot of them but there is still a couple to this day that i question now on the other hand, when we made the swap with Sergeant Berndt all bird dolls they were bad we never should have released them. That is like releasing five taliban generals. It is a lawless place. If abu zubaydah was not outside the man who was he . What group did he belong to . And there were others ever doing leg work we were paying some of these warlords a ton of money with of military support and the armys and wrestles staff was one of the biggest contributors there was all littleknown group at the time called al qaeda which also fighting the soviets as well. After the russians pulled out but then 40 percent of the country that is how many people were wiped out. Or even send money to rebuild schools. We did our part in these people of grew up with our warlords with the false propaganda to make this radical islamic beliefs the group with hate for the u. S. And the backfired. Cannot imagine a country with no guidance with that many children. Mentioning the other abu zubaydah do you think we downplayed the terrorist threat within the United States or is an overblown . That is worse than the left wants to would mitt but not as bad as the right. Getting President Trump is doing right now hes just trying to get people to follow the rule of law basically from bill clinton in not changing anything but putting into place. And it is somewhere in between. So another big issue is our belief on torture. We hagel with this interrogations and talk about torture and was solitary confinement and had some things a nation of law nba dont have torturing people as a way to do it lot of people come up with a ticking time bomb theory what if the ball will go off it in washington d. C. . That is not realistic that is something from 24. In the beginning when they were interrogating him and that will give up to three phonenumber . But if they were getting somewhere did they really believe he was not giving up enough information . That shows torturing giving up the information and offers. The fbi does not do in his interrogation and it takes time it is a long process. They gain trust. The cia contract it timman that can come up with the idea of enhanced interrogation techniques with other horrible things. And they were paid 1 million to come up with this. These two guys kept telling us they day and they kept paying them. This isnt working it is illegal is a huge civil war within the agency. When they started to interrogate or torture him so that they could stir this in advance . Moore their repercussions . I believe they started in a couple days the my coauthor believes it happened right after so that is a gray area. And how that was approved it is still legal to water board someone with those japanese soldiers for water boarding but yet there is another one that contradicts it so especially being a law professor i cannot understand how that got so jumbled. After everything bad is into word. Twentyfive of profile person but definitely has to much information connected with the Central Intelligence agency they cannot charge them with a crime because of that. They cannot give him due process because of who he is so he is sitting in legal limbo with no human rights whatsoever. This sounds like the nightmare. Think about United States spending. Two of kobe jake muhammed down in guantanamo to put pen is an federal court to try him here in the u. S. We have a 100 percent conviction rate what are we afraid of . We waterborne him 183 times said you torture someone then it becomes a legal issue so how do deal with that . And they will tell you every want to hear when you torture someone. Your coauthor got into some trouble . My coauthor he revealed that we water boarded a prisoner and gave of that information and. With his first book of the reluctance by and told abc news your using this method that was classified and we were not supposed to say that. And was charged with the espionage act and then serving two years in prison for that. And that torture program that we have so the torturers got off scotfree. And then with that and are you choosing your words carefully . The cia and fbi and the news articles coming out and then they are pushing hard on this book. The cia and fbi i responded i think pretty well so they had to do get that. Is to fall under the california authority. And i did not have to do that. You chose your words a little more carefully. So on my first book when i was traveling that they should never have known that much. I will leave the authors notes on december 9th 2014 through the Senate SelectIntelligence Committee to release a report on torture it was not yet made public if i was a justice see what it would say i believe those that were featured but abu zubaydah won the report was made public i found that i was correct but there was something surprising in the report i had not expected at all. That teeeighteen was mentioned more than 1,000 times. In was the most personal thing i have ever read. Eight years earlier in the military assigned to the Intelligence Unit and i had participated to transfer into c i a custody into the department of defense and years later i was hired to be the lead researcher on the abu zubaydah defense team. And going into the details into his life analyzing government documents interviewing family and friends and associates the one thing that became absolutely certain he was not the number three guy is claimed there was evidence that maybe he was i even a member of al qaeda. And the real world a persons life is complicated and noise doesnt fit in simple categories and and as they continue to go back and forth as they do in this state it is torture so we had more knowledge on abu zubaydah than anybody else. Thank you. This is of book about opiated in the country for pro we have an epidemic right now of Drug Overdose and car accidents. To lay out the foundation but i do think it should be required reading for policy which this will be 08 epidemic in the country. We will it reduce you the of firsttime author when did you come to the United States . 1996 as a stu f