The first was the progressive era 100 years ago talking about giving america and use Style Administration but then the biggest came with uh new deal and periodically a reaction of the increase of governmental power normally there is a conservative reaction the nexus the Great Society in the 60s with johnson and the Obamacare Administration prodded the Affordable Care act the dodd frank monuments that are qualitatively and and twostep in the developmentsteph of that state. Host so professor how has this affected us on a individual basis quick. Normally you dont need to the of federal bureaucrats face to face buta bu everything you do is affected by rules that these people make anything that involves health care is dictated by a d. H. Us. Apply for job, there are requirements and regulations especially employers have to comply with the compliance cost to satisfy those regulators have grownn exponentially education and schools are managed that used to be the quintessential local institution where americans governed themselves now they are dictated to by washington. Every aspect of life is shaped by rules or was made and enforced by people they dont vote for or cannot name that date, how to manage the lives of ordinary americans than ordinary americans. You use the 1927 radio act but. Herbert hoover has gone down as laissezfaire conservatives was a progressive and the radioactive initially the federal Radio Commission the power to issue a license to p people to operate by radio t according to their sense of public convenience andad necessity the commissioners got to decide if the public really needed a radio outlet that is tremendously powerful power previously newspapers were unregulated you did not need a license but with a radio you did so that was more politically manipulated it was no accident that newspapers were critical to the new deal than the radio because radio operators knew that though license renewal continued if he played the way the administration wanted you to that is an early example of political dangers. Host given what you have been describing . Not as much as you think it hasnt grown much sincern world war ii. Ii it gets the states to do regulating almost all rated the tour programs the states have to comply with the federal regulations. So people have not notice the growth of personnel carried out through the agencies but by getting private institutions of that awful time job the government has made the enforcement of private parties. Host what is the role of the federal register greg. The compilation of the regulations it was started 1935. One place to go to see the Regulations Congress passed a statute that was three or four paragraphs or pages the register is tens of thousands of pages every year. The record was 80,000 in one year that was in the 80s and then broke the record 2,015,100,000 of federal regulation and that is only the formally published ones regulators do so much by informal memorandum that is not published there are several ways to leave the official footprint in the of record that is just the tip of the iceberg nobody could keep up with all of it companies have to hire lawyers just to deal with regulations of a specific aspect. Host in your view of growth of the bureaucratic state could that be contributed to congress be quick. There dereliction of duty theyre unwilling to make the hard choices they take the easy way out there fundamental interest is to get reelected the Current System increases their power because the delegation of legislative power that now they are more powerful and more likely to stay inco office under this system that is why the house of representatives house and incumbency rate higher than the house of lords it is almost a permanent class. In the 19th century the congress did its job but the concern then it was interfering too much in the day today and penetration of government so there were problems of both and micromanaging and delegation of to much power with a healthy balance but not the overwhelming part. Host the book is called the bureaucrat kings. Paul marino is the author. One of the things i found so interesting is what i find hilarious since ive listened the peace corps. He knew jfk that is the most unpredicted in the wld ever. [laughter] that ever existed. Is hilarious but it is depressing. One of the most upsetting is the outburst of the anti muslim sentiment in this country. After the president was exposed laky became a closet muslim but he could never get in front of a microphone to say it turns out i am not a muslim but what if i was . At all think he could ever say that. That tells you something about prejudices country for crime sure he has thought that of million times so it turns out what if i wasnt . What would that be such a terrible thing . The accusation speaks prejudice and the same way. But there is a parallel. Is funny since the article came out to say that is cute but basically that is the same thing you dont have to listen to them. But i would note that there are degrees of acceptability of campus conservative is of. So what passes for campus conservatism that is acceptable for the faculty members that identify as conservative are more libertarian able be socially liberal and will have economic conservative ideas if you really want to know how excepting the campuses you have to ask about social conservative foes to trigger a warning like me that case than gender is still a man what is the acceptance of that point of view on a College Campus . Can you say that without triggering the kind of reaction quick. But there is a case like that you should not be too confident that you have tenure. 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