Also going through the same experiences that understood what life was like but we started off together. Your sister used your sister used the word ordinary. Was your life ordinary . Guest people will come up to us and say you are so normal on tv and its kind of a strange thing to hear because we want to think of ourselves as exceptional as we are normal and we write a little bit about what made us who we are. My grandfather was a homebuilder homebuilder. They were just as much a part of our lives and in fact favor of this cornerstone so i think we have a sort of juxtaposition i dont think people realize and i dont think we have been through things on midland texas is just as much a part of our lives as washington d. C. I also think we have been through things on the outside that people have witnessed but then there is personal joys and struggles that we will share and i think that will surprise people. From your upcoming book, right up until this day when we walk into a room or public space together we hear oh, look, it is the bush twins. Oh, those wild bush wins. Twins. When did you understand you lost the ability to not have a public life . When we were 18. We were running for college and until then we were lib living in texas and went to a big public high school. There is cheerleaders and jocks and the marching band and then when we were 18 and our dad started running for president all of a sudden i think we became more aware that other people had an arrogance of us that may or may or may not be true. We wanted to focus on the world and not more on how did others perceive us really. And i think what is interesting is that anybody i think can relate to the fact when you are a part of siblings or a group or war colleagues somehow you get characterized as one way or the other so we have had a really interesting time writing this become because so many times people say you are the wild one but really if people know us, barbara is far more independent and outgoing. She commutes to rawanda as a job. Then you wonder do you fall under other stereotypes . Or play into that more because that is what others think of you . We have seen people we love dearly, grandfather, grandmother, mother and father, be stereotyped and sometimes they are true. It is easier to call people one word than who they are. We see this with fox news and cspan and the way we simplify public figures. People are complicated and we have been characterized as one way and i think it is fun to tell a story and share who we are. You went to ut, you went to yale, and did it on purpose so you would not be together . Is that true . Personally, i couldnt get into yale. Lets be honest, if i could have gotten into yale might be a different narrative. We are very different. And i think one or two problems on her sat and i missed several more. We were always celebrated for who we were. My parents applauded that and never made me feel lesser thank god i wanted to leave texas. I was curious to go to other places. I didnt know a Single Person at yale so it was fun for me. That challenge of walking in and thinking what am i made of and can we meet people. The beauty is we got to double the friends. She is close with my friends from yale and i am friends with her friends from the university of texas. Mom, i was kidnapped. There were all these stereotypes that we were secret service ditchers in the College Years and that is not true. But as a first grader, i did fake my own kidnapping. Who is twinkle . I am twinkle. That was my secret service code name. Since you were young . No, i dont know if we had code names when my grandpa was president. We only had secret service for a short period. We should investigate that. But twinkle was my name when my bad became president. It was based on our eyes. They said i had a twinkle in my eye and barbara has beautiful turquiose eyes. As a first grader, i had an active imagination. My story was flawless and what you see or read in the movies. Bald man, he had a puppy no, he had candy. What was laura bushs reaction . My mom is calm. She can shut us down with one look. She never needs to raise her voice. She is so calm but not happy. Lets be honest. She also found it sort of hilarious. I faked my own kidnapping there was a long term story about you, a tollbooth, yale and cars. It was unintentional. By the way, this is how the world was back then. I dont even know this story. I was with friends. Oddly enough we were going to a prowrestling federation in new york later. I was driving and i was in a car that had a toll pass. We went through and secret service didnt you have to include this. We lost them because they didnt have the pass and someone in my dorm wrote about it. You have to write about thatism i am tired of being the own bad twin margaritas, austin. Will that be in the book . Sure will. When we write about our precious gampy and things he said that move me to tears that is easy to write. It meant so much to me. Writing about margaritas and not that it was easy to write or i feel guilt. But it wasnt the crazy memory that meant so much later. Although i will say our parents always said when they told us they were going to run or he was going to run for president we cried you will ruin our life and then he said i want you to have a normal daes thigs isnt going to change and thought was nigh naive. But you can have a normal college experience. When we got in trouble, everybody i think thinks based on tv and stereotypes there was a spin room that tried to spin it or my parents were furious. And i am sure they were disappointed. I know they were. But more than they were sad they were promised us normalcy that wasnt delivered on. I am so happy we had parents that allowed us to make mistakes. Imagine if we were perfect, life would be boring. I dont think we could do it. It would be too much pressure to be these political daughters to never made a mistake. Also as a mom of two little girls, i am so thankful my dad allowed us to make mistakes and be free humans and learn about empathy and caring and how if we care we could bring light to it. I am not sure we were told to be this one particular thing and i could be a mother of my own girls not understanding it is oklahoma to mess up. Speaking of mothers, you write laura bush was the familys closeted hippie. Our mom loves music, she loves reggae. We have a number of experiences with our mom going to hear great music starting in first grade. Paul simon was an tour for grace land and my mom took us with her but we were about this tall and stood on the concrete and i will never forget it. When i was nine, i was thinking about at camp, you could get a care package and people would write their parents and it was a big deal to have a cd player. All the kids were getting new kids on the block but my mom send me music i love. I think that she wanted us to have good music taste. She loved van morrison so much as a child i was convinced she would leave my dad for him. Not that their paths crossed. Jenna bush, what are you doing today . I am working for the today show. It is fun and ironic because we hid from the media. I literally mean the word literally. But my 4yearold said mom, aaron told me not to go. He literally said that. And i said what did you just say . Pepe will be furious. People throw like in and this is true. I literally sprinted in the opposite direction from David Gregory on the steps of the white house when i went for a run around the mall. We spent all these years trying to hide from the media and now i work for them which is ironic but awesome because it shows life is unexpected and it can take crazy turns. If you are so ridged on what you want your life to be you can never experience the beauty of growing and changing. And i think it shows you that you cant judge people. I had these stereotypes of people i work with. I have a friend who is here with a childrens book, princesses wear pants, and she is my next door neighbor and best friend and i thought of her as somebody who is different than she is and i think that goes with what we are trying to talk about and that is people are more complicated than we usually think this isnt the first book you coauthored. That is true. I have written two childrens books with my mom who is a vivacious editor and more complicated to work with. You are less of a diva. Dont tell her i said that. Why did you hide from the media . I dont know i hid but oh, when we were younger. I am a very private person. Even writing this book was a lease for me. But i am so proud of her because she was honest, and raw and authentic. We wrote and i just read her parts and where was blown away. Thank you. I think we, again, were in college and we were young. So the idea of additional attention on us was uncomfortable. When we were younger our life in college was about going to school, our friends figuring out what we wanted to do and how to explore the difference we wanted to make in the world and starting our career and so much of that is personal and i would say i would hide from the media except we are doing this. And we will be on tour together. The book comes out in october. I am working with on organization that gives me a hopeful way waking up every day knowing there are a thousand amazing young people who are passionate about severing others. Global health corp. She is doing awesome work. Final question. Is there a sorority or fraternity among white house kids . Definitely. Definitely with chelsea and malia and sasha. We are both unbelieveably protepr protective of them. We saw our little selves in them when our grandpa became president and when they left the white house it was the same age we were when our dad became president. Being a teenager when your dad is president is not easy but it is incredibly rewarding. We have had been pen pals with them and heard from them and we ping open letters to them. We have heard back in a private way as well. I am so proud to be part of this group. There are men too but the most recent have been women and we are part of a group of awesome women who have each others back and that is the whole point of this book and we are part of a goup that is like that. Sisters first you are part of the clan. We are not going to leave men out but sister first means more than just blood given your experience, what do you think is going through barron trumps mind . Well, i hope what is going through this mind is just he is an elementary school. It is jus that. School and friends and playing sports or doing whatever hobby he likes because he deserves to be a kid. He is a kid. And we should treat him like that and give him the respect that all of us didnt always had but mostly had. Children of the president i think should be off limits. You can say what you want about his father who chose to run but he didnt make that decision. He was in elementary school. Sometimes they do in the cross word. The book is out in october. Thanks for being on booktv. Thanks so much. That was fun. We happened a blast. Booktv