Do that in a cooperative setting with all aspects of agriculture all the way to the consumers . It almost looks like we have to get everyone at the table. Against kobe had a good conversation. Im not against farmers or eating meat or against agriculture. We can do a better job. Host this is an interesting book to read it as we talked today i dont agree with all of what youre saying but i think it is something we need to talk about. Your book demonstrates an interesting perspective on how to deal with some of those issues. Its been a delight to talk with you today. Guest its been great to talk with you. Thank you. Host thank you. [applause]coming thank you all so much for coming out tonight. Coowners im one of the coowners of politics and prose. Po a husband and coowner is right here. On behalf of our staff we welcome you all and want to thank our friends and partners. We love doing events here. How many of you have been to an event here . Its one of our favorite venues and we are excited for tonights event. I think youve been given instructions on how this is going to proceed. We are really honored and it is a pleasure to recognize a woman recognized by millions across the country and the world. St most of us know her as the most influential and toughest journalist in history television. Shes also a former lawyer and mother of three, and now perhaps most importantly she is also the author. Meghan kelly is here to talk about her new book called the saddle for settled for more. There is an art to writing a memoir and even more to writing a good memoir and writing a great memoir because it has to tell the truth. It cant pull any punches and most of all the author must be willing to expose some of their own blemishes and vulnerabilities to explain who they are and what they are about. Let me just say settle for more is a great memoir. She takes us through her childhood and career as a successful lawyer and decision to an abandoned that life for a risky adventure and her evolution in her role as a professional woman, spouse and mother. Along the way, she takes a look at herself including some personal demons she had to tame as she looked for fulfillment and success. Another important point about this book, it is really, really funny. Actually, hilarious. Meghan has a quick wit that may explain how she survived some of the challenging environmentsen shes had to work and in some of the very contentious people shee covered. I am not mentioning any names. [applause] [laughter] you all know there is more to the story that i just outlined especially what shes been through the past 18 months. If its any consolation i dont know how many of you have been following the latest news about the 5,000 block of connecticut avenue where politics and prose is located. We know more about theal consequences of the fake news stories in a beer with you and we havent experienced half of what she has. To help us get to the story, we are lucky to have with us another superb broadcaster who is well known here in washington and beyond and is the washington anger for bbc news and america and im sure many of you have seen her on the morning show and meet the press. [applause] therethere is so much critim and negativity. I was just saying last week. Thank you all for coming. I know the traffic is held so we appreciate you joining us here. Its a treat for me to sit and talk for an hour. I will slow the questions and randomly during the course of the evening. I read settle for more over the course of the weekend. Its funny and its on it. I thought how does somebody your age right in memoir you are jusr starting in life. Theres a story to that. In cupcake nation we see these millennial spook cant function its really irritating me and gets under my skin so i called and cupcake nation. The more i started to write about it i realized there is a reason i feel this way and i thought i could explain it to People Better if i walked them through how i got to this place and why i find that cupcake nation things so objectionable and deeply problematic for the society and those 20 something year olds. The bottom line and it is an ofn opportunity to grow and become stronger. If i had no adversity in my life and parents that had kept me in a protective bubble for 45 years how do you think i could handle the past year . My desk. I would have been buying under my desk. I had been through iterations of that before. Lets go back to albany, new york and your parents. My mom is one of the stars of the book, which she loved. I bet. What i love about your parents is the idea that they inculcated in you the idea that you were not particularly special and not everybody is a winner. The values for our kids you get a trophy just for showing up to the game. It drives me crazy. My parents attitude wasnt you are so special, it was more like you dont seem that special so far and thats fine by us. We are openminded toialness, b specialness, but we dont see it yet. That was a gift to me because i felt fear no pressure to achieve or succeed. I could tell they wanted me to be happy. You have to have a good sense of humor and you have to engage. You were not allowed to sit like a potted plant at the dinner table but beyond that, you seem happy, good luck. And that worked out very well for me. That started with my mom and dad. On the participation trophy, and make the point in the book it is sent as if you achieved they didnt give you praise but there was no pressure to achieve. And or whole family, your older brother would Say Something and it would get intense and you would go on and on into your older brother would be like shes talked enough, shut her up. My dad who was an educator and caught a phd, all five of us had dinner together growing up first in syracuse and then albany and upstate new york. My dad would say what the report and weve go down the line. They would give these answers with a few words here and there and they would get to me and i would go on and on and they would say make her shut up and my dad would say you have your chance and now they will listen to her. My friends proposed naming my book that. [laughter]ture you paint a picture of a very happy family but there are two incidences that struck me during your childhood. First is what happened in seventh grade. Q. Had been surrounded by friends and then middle school is provable in any way but for you seventh grade was a nightmare. It was. I think it is the Second Chapter in the book i its called mean girls in the book. Its still hard about to this day. I just turned 46 and this happened when i was 12. Dont make me do the math, but its a long time. I can still get teared up aboutr it because i think back on what i had al happened. I had always been somewhat popular. I wasnt attractive at all. I had no appearance. I wasnt one of those goals like shes so beautiful. Thats why this is so great you talk about putting on weight and having acne. N my two when i got to be told my mom was like dont you want to have that fixed and my dad was like dont you want to look like it morgan and i said im going to go with mom today i was kind of chunky, i had bad skin, this kind of hideous and thanks to my friend suggested i try some in every summer. You have to not picture this version of the. Th people pay to make me look good. Everybody but the glamorous ifld they have people they paid. Thats worth pointing out. I did have currency in myon personality and friendship. Not to be was important to my ego and sense of worth and four batteries and everyone here in the seventh grade the group just turned on me one day. So many people said why. Expl they require no reason or provide an explanation, they just turn. I went from being a popular girl to being an object of disgust for them. It wasnt just that they didnt want to hang out with me. Its that i repost them. You could feel it as i walked through the halls they would throw things at me and make comments about my body, my skin, and it culminated in this horrible episode. Le let me say i know people have had it so much worse so please understand i know that at the time i didnt have that perspective. I was home with my parents on a saturday night and the leader of the group called and said she was having a party. Do you know where all the people from my party are and i said no and they call yelled into the phone we are here. I still get upset over to the state which is so cool and i was already feeling vulnerable. My parents were watching me and i havent disclosed to them even though i was being bullied never mind to this extent. I went to the backyard in the cold snowy albany night and i skated on top of the snow that had been iced over with tears streaming down my face and felt so isolated and alone and targeted and it didnt stop until the spring when a beautiful angel named heather shepherd came and sat next to me at lunch and befriended me for no particular reason. My mom knew something at that point it says all you need is one. She befriended me and changed everything for me. We remained friends for years. I never really articulated to her how grateful i was to her for that until really this book. She knows my mom. They both lived in albany still. She read it and called my mom and said she helped me, too mac. She meant so much to be. Anyway, to this day i cannotay,t tolerate bullies. And i do think one of the side [laughter] what one upside of the bullying, and there are few i wouldnt recommend this, i have empathy for people. I have empathy for true victims of negative events. At thats not to say i dont like the word victim i think even if you have been victimized a selfdefeating word that can mess with your head i have empathy for people that have been through hard times. One question i have tell you are very clearly close to your mommy and daddy. Why do you think you didnt tell them . . I was ashamed. I started to believe i was repulsive and i was doing it all wrong. It was my fault. I wasnt likable and that was an area my parents value valued thy wanted me to have friends like normal parents so while they were never saying you need to be attractive, i wrote one day i was leaving i was about seven and my mom said i know a little goal that the temperature here today a little girl that didnt brush her hair today. There was a certain understanding i should have friends and i was embarrassed that i didnt. Your dad died when you were young and you clearly had a Good Relationship with him and to those that are going to be the book the night he died. Its a story that ive never talked publicly before this memoir and they wrestled with it. I wasnt sure how much i wanted to disclose about that night, not because of people like you sitting here who are openminded and i hope kind hearted and can view me through a neutral lens but there are haters out there and i certainly didnt want them messing with my fathers death. This is what its like to be a public figure today if you disclose anything about yourself publicly but in the end i thought its in trouble t to whi yam and i know there are other people out there that have lost somebody under less than ideal circumstances in terms of their relationship and i thought maybe it can make you feel better if theres somebody you can relate to that has had a similar for the circumstance. For the record we had a beautiful relationship. I was 15 when he died, he was 45 and had no heart problems and ten days before christmas in 1985 he dropped dead of a heart stupid attack. It was a stupid fight over a class ring i was being a stupid ring girl who wanted a nicer class ring then we could afford and he was telling me we cant afford that nice of the ring but ing wouldnt let it go. He had so he walked out of the kitchen, threw up his hands. He never got mad. He wasnt that kind of parent. My mom on the other hand would get mad. He turned and walked out and i walked past him to go upstairs to my bedroom and my last sight of him he was staring at the Christmas Tree in the living room, a good man alone and thats something i have to liveg with because the next thing my sister came into my room and said wakeup, dad had a heart attack and he was never revived. And i write in the book about going to the hospital and igo dont know if youve ever lost anybody but going in there and seeing him in having to saywho s goodbye how strong my mom is who was 44yearsold at the time had two kids, two in college and then theres me, 15. She didnt have a lot of money and my dad just canceled the major insurance policy we had because he was like im45yeard 45yearsold, he wasnt a heart patient, he didnt think he would need it so we had money problems facing us and my momew knew that as well but she was such an example for me in that moment. E she never said to me you must be strong, you must not cry. She cries all the time and so do i. Obviously. She made it very clear you have to function in the face of emotional upset, not avoiding it for functioning in the face of it and that is something i can do. You talk about how shes strong and was incredibly strong after your father died. You told the story how youve been a lawyer jumping forward several years now and you get to new york and chicago and you c cry. On the first night she is shehetic and then shes like shut up. , stop playing the third night she said stop playing the victim, not attractive. [laughter] that got me out of myself to be pretty. She had been there and empathetic and then it was like now you are being ridiculous, and it helped me. That sums up about what i want to say to everyone in the millennium. Do you say that to your kids . No, they are three, five and seven now so that might be cool. Are you bringing up your kids with the same values of not everyone is a winner . I already threw away my sons participation trophy, it went in the garbage, im sorry. We had a Parent Teacher conference at the beginning and she said what is your core message and i said you are not special. They mean it in the context they just delivered it to you. I dont jump for joy every timey they give me a piece of paper that has three lines on it likey its picasso. I try not to tell them they are the greatest thing since sliced bread. I hug them and tell them how much i love them but i dont tell them how extraordinary they are all the time but im openminded should it come along. We jump forward and you switched and became a lawyer after ten years or something thats full of thank inks. Wh i put some of my journal entries in the. Periods of little Bridget Jones diary except i didnt smoke like she did. Ive been practicing for over nine years and as a kid from upstate new york who never came from circles of power it meant a lot to me to be a lawyer. I felt like i had arrived and now people have to take me seriously. I was reluctant to walk away from it because it meant something to me and myselfimagu selfimage but i did run headfirst into that brick wall. Malays and mediocrity are sort of hard to get out of but when you are dreadfully unhappy now i have to go and thats where i got as a lawyer. You go from being a lawyer to a broadcast journalist. I got reject it from the house of syracuse which i love to remind them off now. They dont care about [laughter] so, i went and decided it was a natural this is something ive always wanted to do but maybe i can do it now. Its not that easy to jump into as a broadcast journalist and so i was determined and then like honestly in retrospect i feel like my father had a hand in it because guitar playing is a theme of the book and we never took a fancy Family Vacation he played guitar and the campfire and we would dance and sing and that kind of thing so i tried to learn guitar when i was an unhappy lawyer and willing to be ruled with a woman in my class a producer for the nbc affiliate in chicago which i didnt even know. She missed class one week and the Space Shuttle had blown up and she came back and said she was in news. I believe in stuff like this. W theres a reason i was not class and connected with this woman who sometimes can be competitive and dont always extend the generosity of friendship to help another woman in the industry but she was the opposite of that and had endless generosity for me and within six months i had my first tv job and within six months of that, fox news hired me. What is the rewarding aspect and what is the most challenging aspect . Rewardin rewording i would say the responsibility that theyve given me and ive earned. Its not so much speaking truth to power, its being able to hold people in power accountab accountable. You can ask the hard questions and they have to deal with you. In the position im in now they kind of have to. Tr take donald trump, he avoided m for most of the year but that doesnt mean i didnt have the chance to hold them accountable and Hillary Clinton never came on the kelly file, not once which i would argue that didnt serve her well. [laughter]ts the best par so thats the best part. The worst part i would say has been the security threats. As much as i try to avoid some of the online betrayal, i get lots of it and i hated. I find it soul killing. The course of this year you went from being somebody that reports on the news to becoming the focus of the news and it happened after the question of the first Republican Debate to donald trump about how hes talked about women in the past. What happened after youve asked that question, actually lets back up what happened before the because it was an extraordinary day that you had leading up to that. It was the prequel to the question. And there was one. We always had a Good Relationship prior to that. We were not friends but we were friendly. I did a segment the week before on the kelly file about his tru. Divorce and it wasnt my story, it was a story the daily beast had broken about his divorce in which in sworn depositions and testimony testified that he had raped her. He was brutal according to her testimony, nasty and wa it was y detailed. The daily beast raised the store back up because in his speech he said mexicans are sending rapists and they were saying speaking of rape, thats why they went there. My point of having the dailyas beast reporter was to tell a storstory and challenged thesa reporter to say okay look shete recanted their testimony and dozens and buy it, it was 30ou years ago and it was a contentious divorce in which people notoriously light so how did you account for that reality in your reporting. So we were not the one dredging up his divorce, somebody else was and it wasnt the daily beast, i put him on, challenged him. Donald trump wasnt happy he gave it any airtime and he insisted i call him back monday for the president ial debate. He was supposed to come on the kelly file that monday but he wouldnt unless the court him personally so i called him and it didnt go well. He said you never should have had a story on your show and i said i did you a favor. Everybody was talking about how she recanted. You shouldnt have come on bill oreilly didnt put it on his show and i said bill oreilly isnt my editorial page. He said i never want to see that kind of story on your show again and i said you dont control the editorial on the kelly file and thats when he blew and started screaming at me to mentor aou disgrace, you ought to betiful ashamed of yourself, i almost unleashed my twitter account on you and i still may. That was the bully you had. I dont know if i wouldt as describe as only so much as an angry politician. At this point the questions were drafted for week. It was just hard questioning that had been in the bag for weeks. Ls so i know hes angry and fuels antagonized and hes and those four days looking around the fox executives to feel me out a little bit like whats going to happen with her. Extraordinarily focused on me at the time i thought this would be the biggest story of people knew that hed threatened his twitter account i wasnt at liberty. That was a conversation he had given me permission at the time nor do they thin did i think ths appropriate. I didnt want to screw up the fox news debate and then i had the sense that he might not show if he got angry and i didnt want that. So we had the debate and i wouli say the rest is history. Asked the question. Was there bullying that followed . That question prompted from mr. Trump and his twitter you we account. You were put under a lot of pressure. I would say there was an attempt at bullying because if you look at the definition it talks about obtaining a desired effect but he didnt obtain the desired effect. It was hol hard night after nig after night. My life wa is being threatened d not to cover him gently because i wanted him to stop the nonsense or to please him. I made a promise to the audience after he came after me in august that i would continue to cover him without fear or favor. It still works as a journalistic principles. I had a team of people that helped me to do that. P it was hard because the point i try to make in that interview and the point i want others tohs know is that when he comes after you its like i understand he id a fighter and i get all that but even then a single message could unleash hell in somebodys life and im not even a civilian. Im a journalist. But we cant have them bring this to them because they criticize him because most people dont work for a company that thats a billion dollars a year and can hide your aroundtheclock security for somebody like me and ive been under armed guard for 16 months and my children have been and its not inappropriate price to pay for hard hitting journalism. [applause] do you worry in this era in the most extreme versions youve been subjected to every journalist that has covered this campaign has had a mild fall of what hes been through. There will be that means the powers to be and i would point out its not from the individual politician and a politician turns on you but its all of the legions of followers and if you are a woman you are besieged by vicious attacks, too. I do worry about younger reporters. It costs a lot of money to have aroundtheclock security. We have to accept the reality. I will say this. The majority of the donald Trump Supporters are not at all this way. In fact, i have millions of them watching every night. And i know there are so many people out there that say i love donald trump, and i love you too. I dont like what they said about you or i dont like your first question to him, but they can hold those ideas in their head. Its like there is a man that works for donald trump is job it is to stir things up and he needs to stop. The fact that its anonymous. I think people put names to the things they write they wouldnt write half the staff. You can try to ignore the planet crosses over to the National Threat they are payingng attention. You watch the show at home when its broadcasting later plaques not usually, because i dont get home until around 11 30 orif midnight and if im lucky my husband is still awake and we might have a glass of wine and talk about the day the kids and we will talk about how the show went. He will watch it but i dont usually watch it unless theres something i thought there was bad then i usually watch it before i leave and its like i screwed that up. Host [inaudible] interes guest that is an interesting question. I feel like i havent really had huge selfconfidence problems id my life. I do think that is a gift of my parents realism. I never had an experience i felt i was good at something and wasnt. I assumed i was mediocre at most things and if it turned out i was better, great, okay i will pursue this. But i wouldnt say when i was a lawyer i wasnt the smartest lawyer in the rank. I went up against these Harvard Law School graduates of her i first in their class. T i would work ten times harder than anybody so that i could hang and i did, i was right there with them, but it was exhausting and i would say socially i dont know how to do this but i have somesocially. Insecurities socially. I writ write and about how Sherl Sandberg and i became friends with a segment ime did one time. She knew i was going to the most powerful womens conference and she wasnt going to be there, she was going to be there the next day but she wanted me to meet these great women she knew. Im going to connect you that you should need them before the conference. Okay, great. These were powerful women in business. Now comes the time im supposed to meet up with them and i am walking to the bar thinking, g god. No one is going to stop me because they dont really want them. Thats what im thinking to myself. Has this happened to you . One of the problems people look at me and think its never happened to her. We are all the same on a basic level. We all have the same social challenges. So i walked to the bar, nobody stops me. And i had to work up the college to go back the other way and once again, nobody stopped me so i was like thats it, im going back to my hotel room in order for them room service. So i was disappointed in myself i didnt try harder to make a connection. Then the next day i sat like this at the conference as she interviewed me and i told that story and all the women i was supposed to meet up with her in the audience and then the most extraordinary thing happened, my email lead up with all of those women saying we didnt see you, we would have loved to have see you. It was sincere and i believe it. Sometimes you are your own worst enemy. Socially i would say i played those games in my head more than socially. In the book you talk about therapy and its related to this because there was a bit where you said you wanted to be indonu vulnerable. Women dont surround themselves made present strengths to themselves. Roger ailes gives you that you were trying to be too perfect. This was the sort of moment of the book and at the beginning of the decision to settle for more. I had gone to fox news and madea it onto broadcast television and the messaging that started coming to me from all different circles was the same. So first i had a negative experience with a woman in a Fox News Bureau didnt put humans on the right after it happened and was always my mentor and kind. He said t you know what your problem is, you are moreulneraby vulnerable than anybody else but you dont project that and people think they can hurt you. Roger ailes had me to his officy and said what it, eric. Its stil its still supposed bullying me with a protective show like you cant hurt me, im fine, im strong. As the first timit was the firse was asking me to take off they show which is scary. I was seeing a therapist because i was considering leaving my first husband who to this day we do have a great relationship. I was struggling with the decision and started to see a therapist who is referred to in the book as my lady amy who saved me and offered me the sams challenge. She wanted me to go to a womens group, she wanted me to see her one time a week and go to a womens group so i thought how screwed up and i am i was already on tv. But the womens group was great and amazing in that they were so honest with me and i was honest with them. It was extraordinary and i write about this in detail in the book. D they didnt as the women at fox were going out for a drink and they didnt ask me to go. My feelings were hurt. Want me,e and maybe only one ever feels like they dont want me. May be theres something about me they dont want so i did feel that again and i went to the womens group to say they were right outside my door talking about happy hour and they didnt ask me. I thought i was going to get a soft shoulder to cry on if i got something even better which was honesty. The one woman in the group said i wouldnt have invited you either. I said why. She barely even knew me. She told me why. She told me it was like the final point on what i have heard from brick and was starting to send in my own life. What you project is offputting and kind of intimidating and no. That likable. She said honestly if i sat next to you i would feel like i had nothing to relate to, that you never have a bad hair day, you always have it together and a little ms. Perfect. For so many years i would have heard that and thought okay but its working. That yeathe year was the beginny recognition that wasnt workingm for me. It was a mechanism i had been using for the years and imm happy to tell you through a lot of hard work i did get that show off and i think its the reason i found my husband and have the threthree kids with him i have. Its the reason i have chosen friendships in my life but i struggled with earlier an it eai believe its the secret to my success as a broadcaster. You always seem so poised. How do you maintain yourmess. Composure . Laughter through look a i control my temper. Im irish catholic. [laughter]and i th im able to control my temper and that is the key back to itss okay to feel emotional but you still have to play into the same is true when youre angry. I have moments on this at where i will think dont get angry but i am angry. Dont show your anger. Ct so i can do that. I dont have to ac pack all of. Instincts. Lets bring in roger ailes because another revelation you have in the book i should point out he was a great mentor to y you. This is hard to tell somebody to change but we think youre great. He was responsible for launching your career that you are relationship changed. I thought it was important to involve the good things about roger in the book even though chapter 24 has become known inty my circles with my friends and family the second to last chapt chapter was added late as the scandal broke late and they had the decision to try to scrub the book of any kind references to him but in the end i thought that is dishonest because rogero ailes isnt all that bad but he isnt all good. Ost honestly it is the chapter name amongst the most proud. Its the one i worked the th hardest. T. I really wrot removed the chapta thousand times so every word has been poured over by me and my husband and some dear friends it dared showed it to. So you will see the complete picture when you read it and i urge you to do so because i sure told the full story in context. Ive done interviews that were annoying pages 20 ask why didnt you come forward earlier. Can i swear im here its like fuck you for saying that. You dont get to ask me why i didnt come forward until you ask if there was a safe avenue for reporting you dont get to ask me that. [applause]ox news, the story as it was my dream job. Id only been working parttime, she hired me and gave me a great opportunity than 12 months in he called me up to new york, sat me down, gave me a bunch of great advice including now whos the real you into the untold part of that meeting and others like it was it would be coupled with highly inappropriate sexual preferences. En, i in the beginning, listen i dont speak the queens english as you come to see. That was for you. [laughter] im glad you felt you had to make sure that i got it. [laughter] i have a sense of humor. My mom, my grandma, they have a dirty sense of humor. I dont offend easily. So it wa i was like okay dont uptight. But then he would cross winds and its liklinesand its like s inappropriate by any measure and you know when thatat has happened. In the book i could have filled up for pages with the comments but i didnt want to go there. I included enough so you can include to make her decide for yourself. People dont want to be told, they want to see the evidence and judge for themselves. It was a terrifying six months because i understood my career was on the line. I knew two things. There was no way i was going to do anything with him and i knew it isnt because of appearances. [laughter] its because integrity. And i knew it was going to end disastrously because i assumed at some point but it would escalate and i would have to reject an outright which is the one thing i didnt want to have to do. I was dancing the dance like laughing and then back to work. And that worked okay. Ge i would get out of that al therl the women are shaking theirme heads yes. Guys have a different reaction to this than women. About 90 of women have experienced this in one way, shape or form and a lot of men are like really . It did culminate in a physical attempt. Ive been with the company for 18 months by that point. I had no power, zero. He was on the cover of magazines as the most powerful man in news and i didnt want to blow up myd relationship. I wanted a Good Relationship. I was doing well at fox news. I wanted t that to be the standa i was charged it as soon as the physical confrontation in his office i ran out of his office, i hired a lawyer and for the record i did tell a supervisor r which is what you are supposed to do. O. Long story short, years went by and i would look for other women and ultimately i found one who had undergone the same time and i convinced myself based on what my supervisor told me hes not a bad ma man he man hes just mete might be having maritalrital dil difficulties. So when gretchens lawsuit had i wasnt sure for reasons we dont need to go into that the allegations that have the dvds between women came forward s anonymously and then i knew and i had a decision to make because the Companies Said they would conduct an internal review and then somebody told me he was working to limit the review to a small circle of people that worked directly with gretchennd and i knew what that would mean no onair talent, not me, not my friend, not any of the otherly o women speaking to the dvds. I write in the book about how i looked at this picture at my five year old and shes on top of a jungle gym in a white dress with dots with her sneakers on and she had fallen off the monkey bars a week earlier and cracked her head open and gotn stitches but she was back up on top of the monkey bars. Im flipping through my photos at the jersey shore and honestly i just said this will not happen to one more woman at fox newsman ever. [applause] thats when i picked up the phone and called murdoch and told him to get his general counsel on the phone and i told them about what happened to me ten years earlier and i told them ththey toldthem the good ay relationship. Ju i didnt want to think he was a monster but i just wanted them to know that this is real and you need to take a look into his behavior. If he went down he would onlynt have himself to blame and i believe that is where things ground up. Conversation that, i think, has been long overdue, like you 90 of the women have gone through in their lives. Right. Blaming the victim has to stop