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Were giving public works jobs and trying to make National Parks so cedar breaks in utah, fdr signed that in august of 33 and then he did capital reefs with an executive order is a monument. Today is a National Park. He took arches which is a roadside a roadside attraction and turned it into a mammoth National Park and took zion National Park quadruple. The zion National Park to enlarge the parks, these were all strategies. His secretary of war was a man named George Durden and his first term. He was a democratic governor, environment conservationist from utah. He saw the advantages of trying to market it on tv. The you taught National Parks state, this was starting with fdr in turn. Quickly, about the 10, im just curious because i would like to collect all 10. The very first one was el capitan and yosemite, adapted capitan and yosemite, adapted from a photograph ansell adams, it debuted in 234 and sold over 250,000 the first day. Others were great smoky mounts, gradient tetons, glasser, zion, trying to look at the map, can katie up in maine, and as hell and sent to her by ansell adams. It was not just that National Parks they did it all, they they did ducks stamps that were remarkable contents and the wpa posters for the National Park which are now the retro in thing for the parks. It is like art deco looking, incredible graphic photographs of all of the parks which roosevelt we only have a couple minutes left. Im curious curious my comment was, conrad werth has said that in the nine years and three months they accomplish what might have occurred in 50 years without their labor. Now the ccc is the grandfather of many groups that do work in parks and americorps, job corps, and other things like that. My comment is we have to remember that although we do not have the civilian conservation corps, we do have a lot of these other grandchildren of the ccc. We need to promote those and trying to get our young people to think about service, whether it be in the armed forces or service for our nation as a part of their formative years after high school. Excellent comment. Thank you very much [applause]. What is your favorite Parker National monument . Well they change a lot. You go and it is your new favorite. Right now, i would have to say its an obscure one, canyon lands in utah. It was stewart whose papers are here at the university of arizona along with ansell adams photographs of the rare collection here, youd all flew over that area and said my guy, if thats a National Park if ive ever seen one. People are looking to dam the river there and so he started moving quickly to go to canyon land. I got to go back for the 50th anniversary of canyon land in 2000, 2014 to give the keynote speech at the park. They took me to see some of the special features there. It was amazing. I was very big on canyonlands but for new ones im hoping that president obama signed the National Monument in utah. It is a very important one for him to do before he leaves office. Also the maine woods in the middle of maine, we have the woman who created berts beeswax , she has acquired all of this land and to begin to to the National Park service. Im hoping we get a big parker monument in maine coming up now. I hope the arctic and it alaska and the Arctic National wildlife area becomes a monument so it gets a permanent protection. We are going to have to wrap it up. I was over at volcano National Park last may, that is something, something, that site at night is something you will never forget. Douglas brinkley, thank you all [applause]. Professor brinkley will be signing copies of his newest book at about 11 30 a. M. That will be happening at the you a bookstore tent over on the mall. He is is going to do some National Question q and a with cspan, we are are going to let him go. Thank you very much. [inaudible] [inaudible]tv. Org, youll get tl schedule of events, and you can follow us on twitter, book tv is our twitter handle. You have been listening to professor Doug Brinkley talking about the newest book and he joined just now with the gallagher theater. Professor brinkley, you have pivoted in your last couple of books to the environment, why is that . My mom and dad took me around america. Had a lot of time off in summers. We go for weeks and months on end going to places like the Great Smoky Mountains or big ben National Park and i just loved it. Now that i have three children i realized i could do research and i am writing on Franklin Roosevelt in the Hudson River Valley where all of his pictures are and fell in love with the catskills and adirondacks. It is wonderful, i love hiking, kayaking, and my mother and father, my and the dad and the duty of the country. Jimmy carter or someone else you heard about, and in a serious way, what is the worlds going to look like 100 years about. And count basie, and not just National Parks the state parks and monuments and historic sites. Otherwise america, skyscrapers and fastfood restaurants for havens that we go to the national battlefields, National Forests in lake mead and keep hatteras, that makes americas special and i wanted to rate the president and roosevelt is the number1 conservation president , Franklin Roosevelt is tied and Lyndon Johnson and jimmy carter. And nixon in some ways, Richard Nixon created the Environmental Protection agency, clean air and water, endangered species and pressure from congress, give credit where credit is due. Host if you watch any of the networks you have seen professor douglas brinkley. He is a president ial historian. We are going to talk about that as well, but this is your opportunity, at 7488200. 748need 201 for those in the mountain and pacific time zone. Accretion of the everglades. Really difficult to create the everglades. There is a nucleus of people, and everglades, and in miami, when he got pulled away, he disappeared and in his wild years, to learn how to get back and went with a man who was the top ornithologists and roosevelt early, in the 1920s we got to save the everglades. The water supply for miami, the florida coast would work, and the first biologically biological crossroads. Both parts were about the wonder of the mountain side. It wasnt a post card, being saved and he had to do propaganda films that eventually able to be preserved. The hero of that story, who fdr worked with. Host you got this all lit up especially at night and then it is really dark on this side. Guest anyone who wants to get behind the everglades that is the National Park place struggling due to pollution, Climate Change, struggling because of invasive species, it has gone haywire. Huge appropriation of the everglades, one of the most amazing National Parks. It is not the easiest to access but would would florida be without the everglades . Host you were on Nancy Reagans team. Guest i met with her many times, she turned over her husbands personal papers to me, the white house diary he kept and a couple speeches and things, and the reagan diaries became a best seller. It is a nice relationship. To be one of the people to obtain guns at funerals because the family had this relationship. Host brad is in lakeland, fla. You are on with douglas brinkley. Caller hello, professor. Your dad was brinkley, was . Host we are having a bit of an audio problem. We have to let you go. Lets see if we can get the next caller on the line, steve in new york. Are you caller between National Monuments and national thought and funded. Host i am sorry. Are you hearing . I am not hearing it. It is very fuzzy and distorted. Maybe we can get that fixed. What percentage of the United States is dedicated . Caller guest every state state park system is radically different meaning some to concessions and some are industrialized state parks. What is public land . We are dealing with a National Wildlife refuge, in many cases protect wild sometimes i didnt get a chance to talk about the damn roosevelt built. This is an environmental problem. He built the dam which he should have done, it created problems for the fish, the salmon couldnt get over so there is kind of they created lake roosevelt, an artificial preserve. The key thing with the Environmental Protection agency, formed in 1970, we have clean air and water standards. You see what happens if you dont, the flint water crisis. I worry when i hear people talk about getting that epa. This is about the air we breathe. We want to breathe clean air and go into a polluted city you get ill. Health problems of not keeping air and water clean is important. We talk about public lands and recreation areas. Host lets try barbara in jacksonville, fla. Caller hello . Guest please go ahead. Caller i wanted to make davis talked about the ccc camps organization. It is not just we should expose all of our young people to this, but i think even if the young men ice interested in going i would imagine many, of many young women in this country would be delighted to go and experience Something Like this. I am 80 years old, bought i would have done this in a new york minute and i thank you for your program. This has been wonderful. I wish you much good luck in your work from now on and i will be getting your books, thank you so much. Guest it is like america or. There are state conversations and deterioration and climate conservations, they havent collectively captured the imagination will waive that ccc did. Eleanor roosevelt promoted she she she camps and she opened some of these in new york and other places and it didnt quite work as well. I dont want to overromanticize it, they were segregated. We were inert jim crow situation. I have written about africanamerican ccc camps and hispanic ones. And integrated camps. They took over the public imagination. It was the most Popular Program of the new deal which is conservation, congress in 1942, broke fdr apart and fought to the bitter end, a permanent part of america. World war ii, republicans in the senate did not want to put any money into conservation and they thought the money would have to go into the war effort and roosevelt argued the ccc was training but he needed skills in conservation, we needed supplies of water and all that but the ccc died in 42. We have many state conservations and other programs, they are just not as grandiose. Host which president is responsible for the grand canyon in the state of arizona . Guest and National Monument by theodore roosevelt, i mentioned in my talk today, god made it, leave it alone, it is a protected monument. It was very controversial. The grand canyon in arizona, didnt have two u. S. Senators and then. With out two u. S. Senators roosevelt was able to get over the politics to get it done. Host lets listen to kathy, in west virginia. Bill ahead. Caller wyoming but that is the day. Host that is exactly what i said. Caller douglas brinkley, would you consider, these are some of my heroes and i have a lot of respect for fdr and i will be reading your book. I think the real heros of the environment are people like christopher who got arrested for illegally purchasing at an illegal bidding event and he end ed up going to prison for a while and williams recently purchased lands being sold and to me, these are just the more famous names, but there are a lot of ordinary people fighting to preserve our land, the public land, trying to keep them from being taken over by fossil fuel companies. Would you ever consider people like this . Guest yes. All three of them i giants. It personal friend of mine in the refuge, so beautiful. I spent some time with her, she is constantly fighting for something i am interested in which is a greater grand canyon National Monument to extend the size of the grand canyon, and up to the larger part of the colorado plateau. Since that everett is very important, look at greater grand canyon National Monument, if we can start lobbying and talking about that maybe something will happen before president obama leaves office. National monuments can do it. The roosevelt, 48 hours before he left the white house in 1909 saved Mount Olympus National Monument in Washington State so big ones can get done in the last year of a president. Host what do you think of the renaming of Mount Mckinley . Guest it is no real history to william mckinley. He was kind of the assassination, native american that particular case is more appropriate. I prefer the native american names, but also a little less thrilled when they named places after people like sonny bono National Wildlife refuge or sometimes we use these, rather have them saved and have somebodys name on them than not say that all. Host john from oregon, you are on with douglas brinkley. Caller fascinating discussion. I look forward to purchasing the book. My question is what your opinion would be about the lens of the indigenous First Nations people, what we referred to as reservations and surrounding lands and how that can be protected in a manner similar to it National Parks and wildlife refuges and stop the pillaging of minerals and mining on land that was theirs to begin with and freezer the natural grasslands of the lakota and maybe restore the fish runs in colombia as you were talking about earlier. Thank you so much. I will enjoy more of your discussion. Guest you ask the tremendously important question. The first peoples, native americans, some of the lands under their jurisdiction, i do think we need to work closer and subsidize those areas to rehabilitate what it would have been like before the european migration to north america. Our secretary of the interior and secretary of agriculture, both very keen right now on looking at how we can do more on native lands. Roosevelt did more than any other president , it was called the indian ccc in the 1930s, john collier was superprogressive on native american affairs. Even today, native heritage and culture and landscapes, the native americans took care of their own lands, had their own newspapers so when you look at the abysmal record of american president s in native american history, one high watermark, dealing with native americans of shares, the best by far as Franklin Roosevelts new deal at the beginning of treating native peoples with respect for their being but also their culture. Host douglas brinkleys new book comes out on tuesday, rightful heritage, franklin d. Roosevelt and the land of america, this is book 15. Even you have lost count. Bruce in santa cruz, go ahead. Caller i am a genealogist and i was wondering if he was related to David Brinkley at all. That was my first question and i wanted to this second question, four of my great grandfathers were trustees, one was appointed by Thomas Jefferson in the louisiana territory, rufus east, i wanted to see if the National Parks in the louisiana territory, and i wanted to know if he came across the family when he was researching theodore and franklin because they are so intertwined with each other. Guest i am not related to David Brinkley. I get asked that a lot. The tucson book festival somebody put David Brinkley, it happens a lot. No blood relation at all. My father was from western pennsylvania, clarion, pa. From the north, 0 North Carolina brinkleys. The louisiana i write about in my book, write full heritage, fdr went to new orleans, they had done a big spill way to prevent flooding, went into the mississippi and went into the gulf of mexico, spent weeks there. He was deeply concerned louisiana, at deforested, Thomas Jeffersons louisiana purchase, these rich hardwood forestss allover louisiana gone, stripped bare. Fdr worked hard with the rockefellers and others to create reserves, the National Wildlife refuge and many others to save louisiana. If you see the ragged boodle of louisiana, delta National Wildlife refuge is fdr at work saving that great fishing area for future generationss. As for the afters Franklin Roosevelt himself would go on a yacht of the astors and go to the florida keys. They went to Port Jefferson and got saved by fdr did, dragged toward the National Park, one of fdrs conservation gambleds. Host if we hadnt had a depression what we have a conservation we have had . Guest no. One of the great ironies, roosevelts freedom to do what he wanted, congress in 1933 said do what you got to do. What shocked people is he said i want to buy a lot of land and rehabilitate it for wildlife. Bring the wildlife back, the land living and farming and sustainable living, so he sent a man when all over in an oldsmobile buying up land with federal fundss to freezer, that is how we got the National Wildlife refuges in minnesota, north dakota and on and on. The federal government was the only person with the money to buy land for the lowest possible and rehabilitate as gifts to the american people. Conversely the depression was largely caused in agricultural areas by the lousy agricultural practices of 18701920. Next call from dave in massachusetts. You are on with douglas brinkley. Caller conservation on a global scale, broke up a corporate robber barons Koch Strickland worked with world powers to defeat the axis. How would you think these two individuals would you what is going on with Climate Change today . Guest one thing about historians is to be careful of what if. What do you do with Climate Change . I wouldnt be able to tell you in a real sense. He was deeply environmentally minded. Before he died in february of 45 fdrs number one project was the idea of creating a United Nations and holding a conference on Global Conservation the day summit to get countries of the world immediately after world war ii to agree on Global Conservation standards. I have letters of Franklin Roosevelt riding leaders of iran, jordan and syria, middle eastern leaders, got to start reforestation, got to create clean water. Fd are fighting Global Conservation terms so i would imagine he would be dealing with global Climate Change given that. One can never be 100 certain of what someone would or wouldnt do when they are not here to speak for themselves. Host in washington, go ahead

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