Happening in michigan right now so thats going to take longer for that to happen but it seems like it is accelerating. They keep wanting to run which isnt going to be anything effective here if you want real democrats to vote for real democrats. Its the Republican Party nationally doing the same thing in the Republican Party. Basically there are two theories. Theres the theory that Ronald Reagans pursuit which is im going to convince people they are on my side and then theres the theory im going to convince people im on their side. They want them to be successful and the one that republicans are pursuing is the one that tends not to be. We know you are on the left that we agree with you most of the time and they are trying to carve off the middle voter. We dont know anymore we are not in the United States. We are in the era of the turnout. They won the vote and lost by 5 million. Its about getting the base out and finding the base and having them turn out in enormous numbers. Who do you like at this point . Its hard for me. I dont know who i like at this point. I know i dont like jeb bush on the republican side. Hillary is more formidable. It isnt about hillary its about what she represents to the media that has decided that they are dedicated to the idea. On the republican side there are a lot of candidates that are very good, so ted cruz, great on policy, can come off as negative rand paul is very strong. They will have a hard time reaching out to the tea party and then you have marco rubio that would be the jack of all trades shifting wildly over the past 12 months. Do any of them come onto the Radio Program . The i believe bobby jindal has been on the radio show before on the show that i did before. We had a lot of these guys. The people versus barack obama what is your criminal case. They bring the racketeering charges against the federal government which has shut down the government and i can deal with. For the Different Cases there are multiple accounts against the administration from the privacy violation of the civil rights and the Fourth Amendment and federal law and Internal Revenue service law with regards to the targeting of the conservative groups and everything from the failure to provide security at the embassy which doesnt amount to the voluntary manslaughter to the testing. Scandal. Theres a lot of criminal activity going on in this administration. The person charged with policing the criminal scandals certainly involved in the enormous scale of obstruction of justice they will get away with it and there will be no consequences and this is what happens when an executive is out of control. Bill clinton was an executive out of control. This goes back to the 100 year history of the executives grooming and power by leaps and bounds. All of that is very frightening to the citizens or it should be which is why i call for something radical to sue the federal government and the injunction on the federal policy which is admittedly did the unthinkable. I dont know what the alternatives are. They can do whatever he wants even criminally speaking and given the fact that no one is getting engaged because he decided that this taboo there are no ramifications for a president that violates the law any more. Host the numbers are on the screen if you want to participate this afternoon 20,227,488,200 for those of you in the east and central, 7488201 if you live in the mountain or pacific time zone we will take your calls in just a minute. Then ship your zero is a strong executive indirect relationship to the weak congress. Theyve delegated in an honest amount of power. It is pretty closely circumscribed and the fact is that its grown so much the president of the unilateral will make the fact that president of the United States have talked about the taxes and wants to unilaterally put Climate Change via the executive Branch Agency and he wants to pass through. They fall in the purview. We now have a system in the United States i wrote my thirdyear harvard wall thesis on this actually. They do not match up in any real way of holding the power the president gains power with the American People believe that he exercises the power. Congress gets popularity by basically not doing anything because of that right something goes wrong they can always say the president screwed up it wasnt me i said the president do good stuff we get re elected, the the president of the United States can go out and be as active as he once thought to be particularly active and the Supreme Court as Justice Roberts stated. They are constantly striking down after the president of the United States lied Justice Roberts decided to rule the way he did on obamacare and there is only a political rationale for it. The patriot act renewal, what do you think lexus gimmick it needs to be circumscribed. It shouldnt be renewed in its current form. The fact is the patriot act allowed to the executive branch or has been taken that way and it needs to be closely monitored and curtailed. Even the people that wrote the patriot act said he didnt think that they were going to do this come you shouldnt have written time to go back and write what you think is to monitor the communication because they dont need my data to find the terrorists. We just talked with robert earlier today and the newest book is called they know everything about you and prior to Getting Started its why hes seeing a significant uptick in the popularity because the case that hes made that there ought to be. During the war on terror before they declared at the end to what victory is in the george w. Bush administration they decided that we were going to basically take an enormous ounce of data to capture and catch come into that and growing and growing under bush. The threat is so great we need to trust you and it turns out no matter how much you think the federal government ought to be trusted it never ends well trusting the government is very rarely a good proposition and thats why we do need some significant limitations on what the federal government can and cannot do. Paperback, any updates updates enough enough to click i dont believe so. Your previous book bullies who are they click they are the folks on the left that are trying to say that anybody that disagrees is about human being into this is the entire thing. He did is costly to marco rubio its fascinating Hillary Clinton is now a week and a half into the campaign she has been asked zero questions because she is away from the cameras and we get to talk about the order that was would you attend a wedding it the case in which no he is mean and nasty guy for not going to this wedding. It requires the federal government and the idea is if we agree on policy i must necessarily be about human being the next step is therefore i can bring the government out of the equation. This couple comes in and shes been serving them for ten years. They come in and say we want to buy flowers, theyve now legalized marriage so what you provide the flowers and they say im a religious christian come here is the list that will provide you the flowers instead of just saying okay we have different opinions and we will go across the street and it turns out that some are days of the tiny flower shop. But instead of giving databases with her if she was forced to pay the fine and this is what it has now come to because then when indiana passes the freedom restoration act designed to protect the rights of religious people to act in accordance with the religion in indiana is called terrible and horrible and its so far as to compare it to jim crow which is absolutely nontechnical. It forces businesses not to associate. Its nonsensical in every level but the idea is that its mean and nasty and cruel and they can do whatever they want. Its by virtue of their belief system they are horrible and nasty and they can be victimized by the government and putting a gun to their head and force them to do. So how do you think that he handled the indiana situation . They once came close to saying this. The truth is that in america you should have the right to refuse service to anybody that they you want and if you reserve service refuse service to somebody that does make you a bad person if you do that you will lose money and your business will go out of business. Thats why they had to in the south because to enforce the regime it turns out that the capitalists and the only color they care about is green. Its not even a religious issue. Its idiotic. I am a religious person but if i were atheist and i decided it shouldnt be my responsibility. Its not my job to serve a ceremony if im anticircumcision this is america we still have freedom. Is it free for me does that mean im antijew, no im just anticircumcision. We are about to have the freedom to choose in the country and its amazing to refuse the consensual engagement is now considered an act of tierney. Its too what amounts to involuntarily serving you by definition. They were not going basic of the principal and ended up in this situation he was explaining the difference and its true not serving the samesex wedding and a person there is a difference. I can surf a person all day long and if i surf the wedding presumably im serving a prison that they are not equivalent. Its not the same thing. Now the question is when did that become discrimination. Ben shapiro is the guest coming a lot of issues on the table and a lot of calls on hold. Your views are precisely right down to that one. On the situation you take the affect that would be with the obama boycott before congress. You will see an impact. It wont be as great as other people say the program, the vast majority dont actually care which is unfortunate. You did see the drop from the levels of support in 2012 they dropped from about 78 to about 65 in the traditional vote. You will see the draft if Hillary Clinton is the nominee and doesnt separate off from the policy you will see the continued drop but they will never vote and the majority because most have nothing to do with judaism so they are the ones that will vote republican because they care about it. Washington, d. C. , go ahead. You described Hillary Clinton as a robot and president obama as a perpetrator of Involuntary Manslaughter and then you critique the left for personal attacks. As a fellow law can you slow down. For example if i say you are a narcissistic adolescent and that is my political opinion i suppose that is using the techniques. I wish the best of luck with your mind as you grow up. Its a badge of honor for me as far as the insult. Why did you call that or compare that to your professors at harvard law. The truth is that went along pretty well with most of my professors. There are people who are known for not being particular and the other political viewpoint. One is a senator from massachusetts, but there were a lot of harvard law professors law professors i got along very well with. As long as folks have an open mind its fun to talk with them. What i object to is when Elizabeth Warren, i does with her a little bit and she and i met at the top in la because she recruited me up the wall school at the time and our initial conversation shed read my profile and she suggested there was no such thing, which is only discounted by every single poll ever donned a College Campus and then she started ripping into rush limbaugh. When i asked if she ever was and it listened it got relatively heated which is an interesting way to recruit. It if Elizabeth Warren is a lot of fun. I always going to have conversations. Its how i got. Have you ever been told before that you talk fast . Ive been working on it for a long time that i will fall into the stereotype and my parents talk extremely quickly so everybody we sit around the table and it sounds like everybody is on fast forward and then we go back and time and i had to make sure that my parents met and i was born eventually. It was wild. [laughter] dickie is a missing augustine you are on book tv. I have read several of your works and i have heard you speak before in los angeles. I am a former republican and im so fed up with the party and the politics i wanted to ask you are we still able to grab defeat out of the victory this time around and are we going to fire lit up again and then we need to recommend the book freedom to choose. Its a great book about freedom of choice and i also want to mention talking about the civil rights that Barry Goldwater refused to sign the legislation because he felt that it deprives people of the freedom to associate with those they want to associate which kind of reflects back on this. Anyway, are we dickie, before we get an answer from ben shapiro when you say that you are afraid the republicans are going to screw it up again in 2016 can you give an example of what you . As a former republican i broke my back for john mccain going doortodoor and also for mitt romney. They were such lovely gentleman but he ran campaigns and could not communicate with the American People of the level they needed to and im afraid it will happen again because we have people running on the republican ticket we just cant be as sharp as the democrats. I believe conservatism to be a morally superior beliefs that impaired people on the right it will to articulate back and i will be a serious problem for them. Is the Republican Party, are they going to be able to do any damage here . The Republican Senate is less than useful thus far appeared what they did passing a bill that allows president obama to new sanctions on iran was truly egregious. The bill allows president obama to lose sanctions unless republicans come up a 67 votes that will be an uphill battle. I think there are some who have started to learn about teaching moral language a very basic admin fullterm people resonate to. Unless they speak in moral terms on a routine basis they will try 57 tax plans and talk about everybodys marginal tax rate, i know my effect of marginal tax rate because they defend a big check to the irs because of it. Most people dont know. That is your pitch for president come which by the way if your marginal tax rate or the highest tax bracket is 357 you will cripple the economy. That is not much of a page to be president of the United States. Host next book. What is it . Guest actually, i am working on a novel. I felt like changing it. As most conservatives are coming postamerican novel. Most think along the lines. I am writing something along those lines and it is fun to write. And then i was thinking along lines of a couple topics that would be interesting to write about and one would be the creeping tyranny of the american mind, this move towards i disagree with you dare forget to use the government to use what i want to do. That is truly frightening because theres plenty of things i disagree with. There are plenty of things i find distasteful and problematic and things i find gross and terrible. I dont think that gives me the ability to use the government forcing them to do what i want. Unless americans return to the vision of government, the government is only there to prevent externalities of interpersonal action to protect third parties. We look. We look at ourselves into a lot of trouble. That is a libertarian perspective but we are becoming such a country divided by styles it will be difficult to remain one country in the long run unless we come to an agreement the government has to stay out of it and deal with each other in an interpersonal level. But in a religious community that its nobody elses business in same thing if you live in an atheist community, christian community, you should be allowed to be left alone without freedom of movement which is very led and the fact that decided on a National Level and it is happening right and left unfortunately that the federal government the one right you can use the power and nobody can love the power. This is why it is so fascinating. The government tried and have failed. For years ive been advocating the government get completely out of the business because it not like the government to do any good in the first place. Get the government out of it let people of interpersonal contractual relationships. We have a tuba jewish veritable document. We have a jewish marital document. It makes no difference. And something had to register with the government. That was the way they registered nurse to do years ago, 3000 years ago. The idea that could agreement with one person how we live our lives seems a better system than having the government decide what is appropriate about is not appropriate that doesnt affect others. Host jim, caliente california. You are an old tv with ben shapiro. Are you with us . Jim is all right. Lets move on to tailor in dover, delaware. Please go ahead with your question or comment. Yes. A couple of questions for him. One is on a personal level i wanted to know if he has ever served in the military or anyone in his family ever has. I would also like to know if he is so hellbent basically on destroying the federal government, what government which you think we would need to have in order to stay in the United States of america. The other question is i dont understand the Republican Party right now because a lot of policies are coming from the ivorian institute, which is based on object of his own which is basically the most nonreligious coming in now, she was an atheist to begin with in the Republican Party just worships her, especially paul ryan had cancer but to everyone. Host with got it. Ill tell you why. Why did you last the first question about the military . Caller but i get sick and tired of all these people that are pro military. My dad were shot down not shut down but shut down to survive two plane crashes in world war ii. My husband was in vietnam and died very prematurely because of that. I work with the United States government for 30 years and all of these people that have never served their government never served in the military, always gotten help military and they do not you know it is like they have never served in the military. Host okay, weve got the point. I appreciate that. Well add that to the list. Guest i loved your addition of shake it off. As far as military service thank you Prayer Service at, thank you Prayer Service that does your husband. You asked me why i want to destroy the federal government and also bulk of the military. Those are in complete opposition. I want to restrict the federal government to be taxed virtuous originally designed including National Security and military defense. Sr is the argument the chicken hawk argument that i didnt serve in the military number one, i am not a member of the police force i still get to vote on police policy. Second of all when it comes to who defines military policy folks on the left, ill make you a deal right now. We all agree the members of the military get to vote on military policy. Are you happy with that . Have a feeling that will go very poorly because members of the military agree with me on National Defense and National Security. As far as the ayn rand question objectivism. I point out the evils of collectivism. As far as the personal philosophy, the atheistic notion that selfishness is the ultimate value, most republicans dont agree with that. I like her description of capitalism and collectivism. If you asked most republicans, the answer is absolutely not. Which is why the vast majority of republicans are actually religious. Host jocelyn is richer in los angeles. Please go ahead. Caller yes i would like to ask ben shapiro, why he is so focused on the Obama Administration with regards to privacy and lack thereof when this issue was really accelerated with bush and the Cheney Administration and now that president obama is in office, it is a big deal. Shouldnt his title rate the people versus bush and cheney . Guest that the privacy question. I call for prosecution in the book of people involved in surveillance programs. Actually you make my case. I dont restrict barack obama. The Obama Administration did dramatically upscale because its fascinating in light of the fact the Obama Administration is declared the war on terror and wind down mode. While ratcheting up the amounts of information about americans currently gathering. At least bush and cheney are trying to give us an excuse. We were trying to see folks are dangerous. They refuse to acknowledge folks are dangerous. Were in the middle of signing the Nuclear Deal Even today they will not allow inspection of nuclear facilities. Many say there is no threat i get little bit suspicious. Host cohost k. Rla 870 los angeles, the warning answer. Sln author of several books including his two most recent, always and the people vs. Barack obama. At 15 minutes left with ben shapiro. Kerry coming back, washington. Good afternoon. Caller hi, how are you. I wanted to talk to mr. Shapiro about the drought in california. I wanted to give him my suggestion that we at Washington State that transferred after he graduated from college in california and my fellow mother was snow skiing. They have lots of water appeared. With thousands following on people. I am also a child im an army corps of engineers family kid. I grew up in australia all over the world for the army corps of engineers. They are third world countries helping people get their country is going anyway. I know how Construction Works and i was. Host where are you going with this . Guest caller i want to know we are not doing something with dams and reservoirs coming all the way down. Host i am going to stop you there. Lets talk about politics and more. Guest when it comes to the drought, it is clear environmental is done and they will build new reservoirs and a giant body of water right off our coast. Theyve somehow figured out since hes been 100 billion it doesnt exist. They provide fodder to people. As far as reservoirs and aqueducts from Washington State. Pat brown did a lot of these things. Jerry brown hasnt done anything on this and now they have to restrict everybody shower land. The water use is going to agriculture and agriculture for this talk about how we create the fruits and nuts in the United States, in terms of actual first and not the fact is that accounts for 2 of the gdp of the state of california. 2 of gdp is taken at 80 of the water. Jerry browns plan is to reduce water usage in the state of california in urban areas. Hes going to achieve 600 700 gallons every year. We made 11 to fill up only loss. Heres the reality. 150 gallons of fresh water pumped in every year. Another 250 are pumped out of there to help the salmon swim to their spawning places. We have to make sure they have usable water in San Francisco bay. This is not exactly the best use of water. We are going to have to get over the old subsidies to industry as we like. I like farmers in central valley. Beatty something incredibly worthwhile. The fact is if you are one segment of the population that represents 2 of gdp i may think almonds are more valuable. I may think that is more of a value to the United States. Guess what, free country. I should go to pay for the water. The reason its happening is the state of california. People in urban and agricultural areas. You wouldve thought competition for the water and water usage would have gone down. You go to the store. Has anyone ever run out of bottled water . No. Nobody ever wants out of coke. They produce more and it comes in the next ship them. When it comes to water because its artificially deflated, and by the states and local government, that means the water has been running for a long time because how we decided to give you that. Host what is the argument against desalinization . Guest you have to use particular enzymes. This chemical is used in order to make sure that happened in a lot of the chemicals are supposedly dangerous although israel never had a problem and it is very expensive. It is extraordinarily expensive. They should certainly be pursuing it now. Host theres a new plant opening. Guest they need to really ratchet up the water production. Host charleston to west virginia. This is booktv on cspan2. Caller hello, great to talk to you. The question i have is that possible for states attorneys general to possibly bring prosecution charges against the Obama Administration, and the members of congress who thumb their nose that citizens of the constitution by sitting back and turning heads away while we are flooded by illegal aliens. Im not afraid to use the term. Thats what it is. I am scared because what i see happening is with giving the back taxes for the past three years for these people, the free college educations, the housing and everything, to me that is buying votes for the next election. What is it going to take to finally have others in congress besides ted cruz and michael lee, the great pastries they are, what will it take to get these people to stand up to the administration and tell them to pretty much are thumbing their finger at the American People. Guest as far as my own stamps, there is no welfare state. And totally open if theres no welfare state. Come in coming to work. In fact if you want to work i will trade you. If i working which i am fundamentally opposed. I would trade the illegal immigrant who wants to work and the guys have been on welfare. Its not your place of origin. The problem is we have the entire system of benefits we are giving out to people and that draws people here. Everybody inherently have selfishness. We are all taking benefits from the federal government. Everybody take something from the federal government. Until we stop offering these things in the first place the answer is to watch it happen right now over president obama in the Amnesty Program temporarily put on hold. Well see if it goes to the Supreme Court or not. As long as it is more palatable to the hispanic vote and the media by pretending you have a plan that doesnt end with closing the border and at least doing something about the folks who are here illegally, you dont have a solution. Both right and left it is cynical. They want cheap workers for the corporation. No one is in favor for the individual. Everyone in the country illegally will not say everybody ought to be deported. Everybody ought to be assessed and we had to determine whether they are in a state for went to the United States and on an individual level whether they get to stay or go. It is bewildering how the irs goes to 100 million tax cuts down to what i ate for lunch six months ago at a kosher restaurant and whether his business lunch or not but they cant track down 14 Million People and decide whether it be good for them to be in the country or not. Host ben shapiro from charleston, west virginia. Seems like a fan of yours. If she wants to listen to you read you what is the best source . Guest truth revolt. Org is one of my websites. You can check there to pray partners. If you want to listen kr l. A. Every morning, 19 and on the east coast. Afternoon i do a second radio show. My second radio shows 3 00 to 6 00 in seattle. You can google in bothell. Host you also tweaked. Guest as you know im rather volatile on twitter. It is ben shapiro. Political debates extraordinaire as well as bill clintons 1970s kinship. If youve ever seen what bill clinton looked like in the 1970s, there is a picture Hillary Clinton and bill clinton next to one another. I sent that out with we are home. Host eli will attend california. Caller eli actually different gender. Host i apologize. Angered enough an ipaq. Caller no problem. I dont want to spend my time correcting that. Obviously gentlemen i want to print out his name. It is quite intelligent. It is unfortunate enough. I am jewish and i have to so strongly object to is trying to portray his own misguided attempts at politics and talking fast. Not all jews talk fast and promote stereotypes. He does a great disservice to jewish people all over the world. And he is laughing matter, which i find i hope what hes doing. I just came from a wonderful jewish Film Festival and saw the film the jewish card all. This man and a catholic polish clerics did far more when they smartened up and had a little more compassion for people than this guy has. As far as host politically do you disagree with ben shapiro when it comes to his politics as well . Caller im sorry. Host do you disagree with ben shapiro when it comes to his politics as well as some of the things youve mentioned . Guest i do disagree with his politics quite a lot. But it is a separate issue to promote stereotypes against jewish people. Host terrific. Lets get a response. That is at least in wilmington north carolina. Guest i didnt realize the grim reaper of the sense of humor was on the lease today. The worst stereotypes about jews is that we speak quickly. I am going to worry significantly more about the president of the United States and a president of the United States who has leaked israeli National Security information democratic partisan republican parties to sign off and that i will worry more about that and less about whether jews talk quickly. Host hollow [inaudible] guest back in 2007 he was already talking about how he wanted to create distance between himself and israel. The fact is the president has been radically antiisrael since he began running for president. There is staffed by people negotiating with hamas whose radically antiisrael. General mayor mick p. Coos said new york city is still around Foreign Policy and United States. He spent his entire life associating antiisrael, antisemi. He is a Palestinian Liberation Organization terrorist advocate. He was a close friend of president obama. It is a radically different church. I have been in the synagogue since i was 11 years old. If at any point the rabbi had got not been started speaking about black people the way they spoke about jews white people in america, wouldve been out there so fast. Dont tell me they didnt believe any of that. The president is acting out his system in realtime and has has real ramifications for real people. You watch it happen in egypt where he cuts off military shipment to a secular regime. He is busily going again the regime. Im not a fan of the saudis but theyre a lot better than the ukrainians at this point. The president has singlehandedly turned a rainy as this is part of a broader policy. Both antiamerican and antiisrael and antiwestern of them personally. Host john San Francisco, good afternoon. Ben shapiro is our guest. Caller pleasure to talk with you. I want your take on something as they tiscali responsible lesser government kind of guy. It makes my blood boil somewhat. The propensity of the u. S. To take billions of dollars of taxpayer money and put it towards a national and down that for democracy and other such ngos that view of Foreign Policy and it seems as if what they do is something we would not expect here is interfering within the internal politics of countries. You can see it manifested in the ukraine where victoria newland had spent 5 billion over a period of time to achieve the regime change and you can see a followthrough with the constant propaganda against the people in the east of ukraine who were more or less against the my. Movement from the beginning and were culturally russian and it was not then who attacked the western ukraine. Host john . Hey, john, where did yourd your interest in this interest in these issues are just discussed come from . Guest well it is a history. A bit of a history buff going back to world war ii. To understand the ukraine it is a complex country in the situation is very complex. I think the facts have not come out in the United States about what is really coming on. Host lets hear from ben shapiro. Guest not familiar with the project hes talking about come as a hes talking about. The american policy has been egregious. The United States led on the ukrainian revolution under the assumption we would defend them and that we didnt defend them when the russians came. No big shock it was happening. The president has so far sold out every potential or real ally in favor of people he would prefer to woo. Poland czechoslovakia all of these countries in favor of a russia he basically signed off on sending missiles to iran. The president of the United States is actively oppose and someone will fill the gap in the people who fill the gap are the worst people on the planet. Host helen, palo alto, california. You might be the last today. Guest perfect. I will use my time well. I find it so egregious that he would calm and conflate so many slogans and all this information that Jeremiah Wright of the republicans always call up something from obamas past. Anyway, my Biggest Issue is how the Republican Party if you are aware that both the congress and all of the republicans they are are all creation and the Republican Party in Congress Excuse me, the gatekeepers hold the Purse Strings and we have no clue about the budget. And did you know about 22 billion go to faithbased funding and we don