Central base. Ok, good morning, ladies and gentlemen. We said we would start on time at 11 15. It is 11 14. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to those of you in the room and those following online following the initial launch of the International Centre for the prosecution of crimes of aggression here at eurojust. There will be short introductions held by the european commissioner for justice, the president of eurojust, the prosecutor general of ukraine, the prosecutor of the International Criminal court , and the assistant attorney general of the United States. We have already sent out the press release and you have it here. A recording of this press conference will be available afterwards on our Youtube Channel as well as a recording of the formal logic event. If you want to ask questions afterwards, for those of you following online, you can do so by using the chat option. I would like to give the floor first of all to the commissioner. Thank you very much. Very proud to be here today because it is important, the International Centre for the prosecution of crimes of aggression, the socalled icpa. Let me take the opportunity to first thank eurojust for hosting the twoday logic event and the extraordinary force to make the quick setup of the icpa possible. It is thanks to them and the other partners present here today that we can set this first important step to ensure the International Centre for the prosecution of crimes of aggression in ukraine. Today is our first step to fight impunity. We cannot tolerate the gross violation of the use of force, one of the fundamental rules of the international based order, and the bedrock principle of the u. N. Charter. It is specific in times that these principles are so fiercely challenged that we are obliged to stand with ukraine for as long as it takes. Since the very beginning of the war, eurojust has been at the very forefront of the force to provide ukraine with necessary means to ensure that the perpetrators of this more do not go unpunished. It has done so by supporting the establishment of the Investigation Team comprising ukraine, lithuania, and poland as its members along with estonia and others who have joined. In addition, the International Criminal court with his presence here today participates in this Investigation Team. With the icpa, we will provide the structure to support and enhance the National Investigations into the crimes of aggression in ukraine and coordinate closely with the investigations sorry. Sorry to interrupt you, but there seems to be a slight sound problem so we have to wait for one minute. We apologize for this. There is a slight problem. Ladies and gentlemen, our apologies for this. We are working on the technical issue, but we will continue with the press conference here. A recording will be available online, and we will send a message to all of those following online that it should be available shortly again. So, sorry to have interrupted you. If you could please start from the introduction again. Thank you very much, and our apologies. Didier thank you. I said i am very proud to be here today for the event you have organized to launch the International Sector for the prosecution for the crime of aggressions against ukraine, the socalled icpa. Let me first take the opportunity to thank eurojust for all the force to make the quick setup of the icpa possible. It is thanks to them and the other partners present here today that we can take this step to ensure accountability for the crimes committed during russias war of aggression against ukraine. The icpa is an important testimony to our commitment to the global fight against impunity. We cannot tolerate the gross violation of the prohibition of the use of force, one of the fundamental rules of the international rulebased order, and a bedrock principle of the u. N. Charter. It is specifically in times in which these principles are so fiercely challenged that we are obliged to stand with ukraine for as long as it takes. Since the very beginning of the war, eurojust has been at the very forefront of the force to provide ukraine with necessary means to ensure the perpetrators of this war do not go unpunished. It has done so by supporting the establishment of the joint Investigation Team comprising ukraine, this awaiting, and poland lithuania, and poland as its members. And now, others have joined. In addition, the International Criminal court with its presence here today also participates in this. We have organized collaboration with our colleagues from the United States. With the icpa, eurojust will provide the structure to support and enhance the National Investigations into the crimes of aggression against ukraine and coordinate closely with the investigations of the International Criminal court for crimes that follow within the courts jurisdiction. Through the icpa, eurojust will support securing, storing, and analyzing evidence for future trials. Eurojusts new database developed after the extension of its mandate last year which further contributes to this important exercise. Important to store insecurity all the evidence that the National Level or international jurisdictions. The Member States will play a crucial role in collecting evidence, identifying witnesses and possible suspects, and executing including those issues by the International Criminal court, and ensuring the perpetrators of such crimes cannot hide from justice. It is clear that it informs to ensure accountability for the crimes in ukraine. It involves cooperation, coordination by national and International Justice actors and cannot be overestimated. The icpa will be a central piece to ensure accountability complementary to the existing accountability framework. It is only a true joint and copperheads of approach to achieve full accountability. This is the essence of the icpa. I am therefore delighted that it will be possible to collect evidence for prosecution. Of course, we need to find a place to organize a trial. There will be discussions about that. I am just hoping in the future it will be possible to get such a confidence, the normal way. We know there will be discussions about the creation of a jurisdiction possible to organize a trial about the crimes of aggression. Thank you very much. Thank you. If you would like to take the floor, please. Thank you so much. Ladies and gentlemen, also very warm welcome on my behalf. Thank you for joining us here today in the hague. Over the past 20 years, eurojust has built up a very solid court in providing operational, technical, logistical, and financial support. From the very beginning of the war in ukraine, we have been at the forefront of the accountability efforts working sidebyside with the ukrainian prosecutors generals office. We have to set up the joint Investigation Team focused on International Crimes committed in ukraine, and we also introduced a Core International crime evidence database. For some weeks already, we have been receiving submissions. Up to now, we have submissions from 10 countries already, and many will follow. A crucial next step of this journey is setting up the International Center for the prosecution for the crime of aggression which is a unique International Cooperation platform without any president in legal history. The icpa will support National Investigators and prosecutors from ukraine, estonia, latvia, the waiting, and poland, who are investigating the crime of aggression. They will be working from this premises where they will benefit from other stateoftheart analytical, legal, financial, and logistical support. As was already mentioned, the key purpose of having International Center for the prosecution of the crime of aggression is to secure crucial evidence, Start Building up the case now. We dont want to wait until the end of the conflict. We decided that we will support other partners which started the initial investigations, and we will centralize already Available Evidence, analyze that evidence, and also identify possible evidentiary gaps through our experts working here at eurojust. We will also translate evidence and relevant documents into both ukrainian and english to ensure that they can be used before Different National jurisdictions as well as national courts. Finally, it is no coincidence that we are joined here today by the prosecutor of the icc and the assistant attorney general of the United States, mr. Polite. In addition to the icc and u. S. And other countrys relative evidence and information such as the u. N. Advisor to the ukraine are expected to join the icpa in the coming months. We believe that through these United International efforts, we hope the International Centre for the prosecution of crimes of aggression will become a symbol of our unwavering commitment to uphold the rule of law and bring an end to impunity. Thank you. Ton thank you, mr. Hamran. Mr. Kostin, may i ask you to take the floor please . Thank you. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I would like to echo what was said. Today, we gather here on occasion of a truly historic moment. I would say an epoch defining moment when the civilized world not only witnessed but also shows by concrete actions that accountability is what matters the most. Today marks the day where we have launched the operation of the International Center for the prosecution for the crime of aggression. The center housed in the eurojust premises. I would like to thank my friend ladislav for all of his efforts. It is the mechanism that will facilitate and support national, judicial investigations into the crime of aggression in the Member States that participate in our joint Investigation Team. This is the framework within which we will exchange information, evidence in relation to the crime of aggression and will design and implement a common investigative and prosecutorial strategy. The key of our four the team of our four prosecutors are now in the hague and start their work today. The work of the center will contribute to the efficient and comprehensive investigation and prosecution of the crime of aggression, which is a regional scene, the commission of which opened up the floodgates for hundreds of thousands of other International Crimes, including the targeted killing of civilians, sexual violence, torture, forcible displacement of civilians, including of children, looting, and many others. Russias use of force against sovereignty, integrity, and political independence is not only directed against my country. It stands as a global threat to peace, security, stability. For this reason, it is paramount to display our preparedness, that accountability for the crime of aggression is a central tenant of our political, legal, and moral agenda. We all know that crime of aggression is a leadership crime and is a remaining weak spot in the International Criminal justice architecture. However, the International Law and relevant mechanisms need to reflect and respond to the modernday realities and challenges. The possibility to develop and reinvigorate them is in our own hands. Today, we showed an example, which is only the first step that will allow us to streamline our International Efforts to facilitate investigation and prosecution of the supreme International Crimes. As i said this morning, justice gives right to peace. There can be no peace without the arm of justice reaching to all planners, all architects of these crimes that have threatened not only ukraines sovereignty and freedom but stability of International Security and legal systems. Therefore, i am confident that the result of our work will have a longstanding effect and will contribute to the strengthening of the account ability system on an interNational Level. I thank each and every of my colleagues and collaborators that have contributed to the establishment of the International Centre for the prosecution of crimes of aggression. We stand and will stand united for justice. Thank you for your attention. Ton thank you, mr. Kostin. By now, the connection is reestablished. If you would like to take the floor, please. Ladies and gentlemen, firstly, thank you so much for making the time to come here to eurojust today to hear this press conference. It was just over a year ago in april of last year when for the first time in the history of the icc we joined the joint Investigative Team that had been established in relation to allegations of crimes that were committed in ukraine. And what motivated me to join as a participant was not only the hospitality and welcome of ladislav hamran, the good support from the commissioner who sits next to me and the commission and the shared values , but a realization that for justice to work is predicated on partnerships, partnerships with state parties, partnerships with nonstate parties, partnerships with civil society, and better communication, because we are in a world where there is a perfect application of the law. Instead of bringing our hands and the men to get, we need to do our part to make it stronger and apply more consistency. What led to the joining last aprils disabled division that led us to join today the International Center for the prosecution to join the International Centre for the prosecution of crimes of aggression. We cannot hope to achieve account ability anywhere in any National Authority. Unless evidence is preserved, collected, and well understood. I think this is the scheme to work with the joint Investigative Team, which already has proved its worth in terms of allegations of war crimes, crimes against amenity, and genocide. We did not convene this for a photo opportunity or to have the opportunity. We wanted the opportunity to speak to members of the media. It really is an intent to make sure the law is of increasing relevance around the world and now in relation to ukraine to people that need it. People that are dispossessed, that our refugees, that live in fear, that have mourned the loss of their loved ones moving forward. And i think this ability to collect information regarding the crime of aggression in addition to the other crimes that, within the icc jurisdiction is one we have to grasp. I could not agree more with the statement of didier. The natural home for the crime of aggression is their own statute. It is an amendment to their own statute that allows the law to be applied equally and applying to all state parties effectively. That is for others to work with them about this initiative with the support of the United States as a nonstate party is a testament to the reawakening ukraine does not represent the first act of aggression that has taken place since the Second World War but we have to strive and find a way to find peace and stability in the world. The to find peace and stability in the world. The foundational principles of the u. N. Charter with the specific settlement of to find d stability in the world. The foundational principles of the u. N. Charter with the specific settlement of disputes is something we need to etch, chisel into the architecture so its no longer frozen in time when it comes to crimes against peace. It comes to crimes against peace. When i say that everybody has a role to play there is no place for spectators, it is very true. In the netherlands last year we announced a prosecutor general for ukraine. We kicked that off last week. In terms of time to coordinate with other actors, european entities and national authorities. So we know which what each other are doing. There was a time last week, they gave an award to the publication that my office produced along with the Genocide Network guide to civil society. This is the beginning of a process that requires effort and focus but i think its meaningful in the most important thing is for us us, together wih the help of other state parties, and International Organizations and many of those watching this press conference is to make sure that the microphones are turned off. We dont get diverted from our fundamental responsibility in this moment in time to make sure this law is relevant to the people in need of it most. We are not on the side of ukraine. We are on the side of justice and we need to find common cause with everyone who once a future with less crime and more justice. This represents an important step in that ultimate destination which we have to aspire and work towards reaching. Thank you very much. May i ask you to take the floor please . Good morning. The United States department of justice is proud to stand with our European Partners and be among the first to participate in the International Center of the prosecution of the crime of aggression against ukraine. I want to thank everyone who played a role in the launch including my friends and colleagues assembled here. The ability of eurojust to organize in a to organize in a matter of months is remarkable and shows the ingenuity of this agency. The justice departments u. S. Special prosecutor for crime of aggression, Jessica Kenton will represent the United States and she will have unfettered access to the body of expertise and to the body of expertise and resources the department has amassed in response to russias unlawful law of aggression against the people of ukraine. The icpa is the most recent addition to investigating crimes committed in ukraine in the center complements other domestic, regional and International Efforts to promote accountability and combat impunity. Two weeks ago, our attorney general marek garland visited the hague so he could see firsthand the robust response to russias fullscale invasion of ukraine and icc and eurojust. During his visit the attorney general pledged that the United States would contribute to the eurojust Court Evidence crime database and i am proud to announce that last week, the United States and its initial contribution to this very important database that will not be our last. Today we honor the launch launcf icpa and tomorrow we roll up our sleeves and get back to work and together we will pursue justice no matter how long it takes. Thank you. We now have time for questions. We will take a bit more time for this, who would like a question . Could you use the microphone, sorry. From the french press. You mentioned the attorney generals visit last week to the icc. And youre talking today about how you are working with icpa can you explain why you work with icpa but not be a part of the icc . United states believes in the fundamental mission of icpa and will help them build cases against those them build cases against those leaders who have paired, initiated, funded and perpetrated these tremendous efforts of aggression against the ukrainian people. We also support all mechanisms of ensuring accountability and justice. Whether it is regional, national, International Actors and that includes our colleagues at the International Criminal court and our colleagues at the united nations. We are confident we can support all of those actors without being a member. Thank you. We have a thank you. We have a question. You mentioned that the center will prepare that the center will prepare prosecutions. Will the center identify suspects and will it be able to prepare indictments . Thank you. Thank you. I will repeat what i said before. We will provide all the necessary tools for the secretaries to look out for investigations. We would will have the ability to organize a trial. I dont want to organize the processprocess but what we wille to do is collect evidence, if e are collecting such kind of evidence it is possible to solve. [indiscernible] it is the job of the organization that we are creating this. In reply to your question, the center is not going to have the power to investigate so it is not issue a reference. How will the mechanics of the system work . As i mentioned, it will be a multicourt system. Under International Law these countries are latvia, lithuania, estonia, poland and ukraine. We want to use those investigators and build up a new level, which will coordinate those investigations in those countries. Our ambition is to centralize all the Available Evidence into one database. And we want to analyze already collected evidence in order to assess whether different elements of crimes are sufficiently documented. Obviously, we want to avoid forest implementation and we want to use our resources wisely but we also want to ensure that we identify that we identify possible evidentiary gaps. We will be able to identify evidence located in those countries, districts to make sure that those piecessure thatf evidence are gathered in an admissible way through traditional cooperation. We realize the icpa as a coordination platform that will provide Additional Support and ensuring that we built up International Database that could be used in international courts. We have a question coming online from a public broadcaster. Whether thewhether the link or s or the council of europe im sorry. The creation of such a transition in the auspice of conservatorship. To start that kind of process we have two main goals. The first one is to bring all the perpetrators of International Crimes to justice and they repay for reconstruction and damage caused by the aggression against ukraine. What we are doing now is to build such a case and collect the evidence and claim them. And we need to create a commission to assign consequences to such a claim. And then of course, to organize conversation. We need to organize from that conversation process. We are working on such a mechanismmechanism where we cane free the names of oligarchs on the list. If there is a criminal element on the sanctions list. We arewe are working with the mr states to do the same. We discuss the views on the profits the views on the profits made on the access to funds, the 270 billion euros that were mobilized in europe. If there is some profit we are working on a way to assign those profits. To assign those profits. We are talking about 3 billion euro a year when we are talking about those profits. To see if its possible to organize revenue for the compensation. We have a question, and all night question. You mentioned that you have authority, can you elaborate on that . One other other point, what wasr preference for a venue for a possible trial on aggression . I did note last week we made her first contribution to the database. We would like to protect the integrity of potential investigation so im not at liberty to give details around what has been contributed. As to your question related to proper form, the United States supports international internats when it is rooted in ukrainian law that includes the concept of International Law it we look forward to working with our colleagues in ukraine, the eu and other actors to make sure we have a proper forum to secure justice. We have two questions that have come in from online. Have two questions that have come in from online. One from the ukrainian journalist and one from a danish journalist. What prevents ukraine from ratifying the road statute . Are your officers collecting evidence from the aggression last year . What evidence is still missing . Last year . What evidence is still missing . How much time do you need before you move on the case . Thank you for your question. First of all, my provision is strong that ukraine will ratify and become part of the family. I hope that it will be ratified sooner than later and practically, our country is ready to do it. The only question is when the parliament will be ready to vote. I hope that within our very Rapid Development and succession to the european union, this will be an integral part of the package which ukraine will ratify and adopt in their near future. On the other side, ukraine has started through icpa Proof Positive to to investigate and prosecute International Crimes in ukraine because of russian aggression. There will come a time, i hope, the opening of the new office of the icc in ukraine which is already finalized by recommendation and an agreement between the governments. I would like to see evidence of the full cooperation of ukrainian authorities with International Agents in our true commitment and transparence with our colleagues. I was say that the historic first arrest warrant is also one of the elements of evidencebased cooperation and transparency. The answers to the other question. We launched today, icpa, as my colleagues have already mentioned, it is about collecting evidence, exchanging of evidence and information. It is about engaging experts, worldrenowned experts, who will help us to build the case. Being very prophetic i believe one of the tasks of the group of prosecutors and experts will start here today in the hague will be to not only exchange evidence but also to build their prosecutorial strategy. At some stage to prepare prepars of the documents which could be used. I hope this tribunal to prosecute the crime of to prosecute the crime of aggression could be international because the crime of aggression committed by russia against ukraine is is a crime against global security. With a break in International Law we need and International Response. We have one more question. Sorry come at the last three questions we can take. I wanted to followup on that, but what is the timeline . I know it is hard to say but getting towards this International Tribunal. Is it likely that the trial will begin in one of those countries . Where are we likely to see a first trial and when . First of all, the officer of prosecutor general of ukraine has opened a case in ukraine. We have collected evidence and already identified more than 600 people who are notified of suspicion for the crimes against ukraine. We have investigated 312. But the idea of a tribunal is to reach the highest Political Leadership of russia including members of troika to be prosecuted on an interNational Level. We are in negotiation with all of our partners who believe that there should be an International Response to prosecute for these crimes. But as we proceed with our communications on the mechanics we today open our new page of creating or launching the International Standard for the prosecution. We have no time. We start to collect evidence and exchange them on an interNational Level. Thank you. Sorry. The organization is organized by you yourself. So you see, what is happening now is exceptional. What is happening now is exceptional. It happens after the war, not during. It will be the same in other countries. You ask about the national situation, that will be a decision on the National Level to go further with prosecution and trial on russian aggression. About the international situation, first of all, the importance of here today, we are starting with the first step. We are starting with the accommodation at the interNational Level to collect accommodation at the interNational Level to collect evidence and prepare for the initial trial. In short, so we can hold a solid file. Wewe have said many times, the best solution we will go to the icc. I have asked the table to give confidence to to give confidence to the icc, for the rest. It is important for International Support. We arewe are open to solutions. Again, we want to be sure [inaudible] we startedwe started at the fir. We start to organize and trial, you need to collect evidencewe. We start to organize and trial, you need to collect evidence and build a Solid Movement of motive. We want towe want to work to gie confidence to the icc, International Support from many other partners including the United States. You mentioned mentioned infon from the spanish agency. West this during the time of during the time of aggression . Was this during the time of the aggression . This is about indictment and cases which are brought to the courts. As i mentioned, all of them are donedone in absentia because the people are all in russia. We have atwe have at the momentd more than 93,000 incidences of war crimes. Over the course of war, our International System is working harder. We have 347 people who have been put forward for submission. We have indictments for 107 people and 53 perpetrators have been convicted for different war different war crimes committed on ukrainian soil against ukrainians. Thank you for that clarification. We have a question in the front. Could you use a microphone please . About the International Crime of aggression in the tribunal i see there are different points of view because ukrainians position is clear that there should be a proper International Tribunal. A senior eu official mentioned that at the level of g7, there is an opinion about a hybrid tribunal would be a more realistic option right now. And what ive heard from what you said you also mentioned some kind of mentioned some kind of International Tribunal based on the ukrainian jurisdiction. Can i get a scope or flavor flaf where the discussion is right now on the level of g7 . When you said based on ukrainian jurisdiction did you mean a hybrid tribunal . Or was it Something Else . Or was it Something Else . Hybrid accountability for war crimes. A tribunal for the crime of aggression. Crime of aggression. I completely agree with my colleagues here. As prosecutor general said we want to get it right. We are open to having those importantwe are open to having e important conversations continuing at g7 ensuring we ultimately arrive at the absolutely appropriate for him to address accountability. As i mentioned already, we have open discussions with all of our partners and friends and i believe we will find Common Solutions which will be insolute with the position of ukrainians who believe that incumbent prime that incumbent Prime Minister should be prosecuted with the crime of aggression. We believe we will find a solution because we need peace. For a tribunal to be internationally credible. One more question from reuters. I have a question about the cooperation with icpa that the u. S. Has contributed prosecutor. Will you share all the evidence you have collected or will it be selected . Are you open to and aggression prosecution at the icc . Do you see that as a possible endpoint . With the u. S. Except an icc prosecution . You fuss the same question to three different people. I do think today is a significant day. I give ukraine a lot of credit. Is the first time that i can recall in the middle of a conflict there is a focus on justice and is not simply a survival or territorial gains. The united for justice conventionconvention believe the commission maybe there is a real effort to make sure that there is law on the front lines and utilize is ability. There is massive laden potential. It is needed in a way that will indicate i think the comments are a bit different because were based in the hague. We have representation here with discussions in the way i look at it,it, previously there were the courts where these could run. For the comment of aggression sees under the domestic laws of various Member States. For which it is a crime under their own constitution. That information will be filtered and analyzed and ready for whenever a National Authority under its own sovereign will decide to activate themauthority under itn sovereign will decide to activate them forward. The prosecutor general give examples. Or whether orauthority under itn sovereign will decide to activate them forward. The prosecutor general give examples. Or whether or not there will be further amendments to statutes. Of course, the law is not static. We can adapt to the needs of humanity but not just states. A crime of aggression is one of the primary principles. An amendment will be on the table for some states to amend their own statutes in a way that the law can be tried consistently which is very important for the integrity of the law that it applies to as many people as possible and this can be a starting point. There needs to be an effort to make sure the law is more equally, consistently as possible. Thats definitely a prospect and we can share information with any state parties to advance justice. Advance justice. We can receive the benefits of the gift but we are also a participant of the also a participant of the gift. We are working very closely with the prosecutor general closely h the prosecutor general of ukraine. That is to be commended. The men and women in his office are working in the most perilous circumstances. Many of your journalist as shells were falling, it has been courageous reporting. The investigators and prosecutors of ukraine are working in a bottle of their own in the way own in the way they collect unique challenges. The way they collect and preserve evidence with the hope of accountability for as many crimes as possible. What we are trying to do collectively is taken off the page of academic journals and fight for ukraine is spread it more widely. The one thing we would like to see, in different theaters of conflict the log could be used as an optional extra will be used two to discourage more instability. We need more stability and more justice. We have a question for you as well. The question, if it does happen that the icc makes an amendment with the crime of aggression against russia, would Ukraine Support the prosecution of that crime of aggression as well . I will not speculate at this time. I will tell you that the department of justice has taken a position of the icc charges against putin were justified. We are supporting all efforts whether it is by icc or regional or International Actors who are ensuring action against russia in this act of aggression against ukraine. I understand the focus of this discussionin my opinion, is not important at this stage that the trial will happen while negotiations are still ongoing. As far as investigation for the crimes of aggression is important that we start now. In the past, all past, all aggrn investigations started prior to the conflict. When you have those who are winners and who had to capitulate. We are doing it for the first time as the conflict happens. As heas he mentioned, the first investigation after the Second World War. These circumstances are are completely different. Today, we have a huge amount of evidence which is available in different jurisdictions. Never in history have we had more evidence about aggression and then we have today. We are speaking about photography, gps, intercepted communications, data on mobile phones. All of this requires huge efforts. We have to join other forces and to support the National Investigations because they are up for an unparalleled challenge. To have the investigation on the crime of aggression, its a big thing. You have to prove the aggression and this can be through evidence of blockage of ports, advance of forces on land, sea and air. You see the challenge because you know how many different incidents actually happened in ukraine. Actually happened in ukraine. The evidence concerning blockage of ports is not enough. We had to also link all of these effects with certain people who are in the leading position either Political Leadership or military leadership. This is a big challenge for us because he have to ensure that we have admissible evidence. Secondly, we have elements of crime properly documented. And then the third one we will assess all the evidence, translate all the evidence into two languages and prepare a Truly International file for domestic or International Ports in the present or future. I think its very important to understand the scope and why and what we are doing here and why we believe whats happening now is so exceptional. Dear colleagues, you see here the unity of us. The unity is very wide. It is the diversity of unity and we are united in order to ensure full responsibility for all crimes committed, including the crime of aggression. If crime of aggression would not have been committed there would be no other 93,000 incidents of war crimes. In this day today for me, and i believe from my colleagues is evidence that the establishment of a special tribunal is now inevitable. It will be established because we start our work today. Thank you. Thank you and thank you to all speakers and all you hear and those who have followed our life. This concludes this press conference. We will keep you