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Moderator one of our primary sponsors here with yellowstone and all four entities are joining forces. And just a few House Keeping measures. We have two candidates questioned by the panel of three journalist. No Opening Statements tonight. The first candidate gets 60 seconds to respond, 30 seconds to rebut and then both get another 30 seconds to rebut what was said. We are asking the audience locally to hold their applause until the very end. We covered cell phones, not applauding or hissing during the debate. We would agree the senate race in montana has everything but a debate. Lets meet Amanda Curtis. She is a math teacher at Butte High School and was elected to the Montana House of representatives in 2012. She is a total profit of the Montana University centers. She is working on her masters currently. She and her husband live in butte and she is a High School Teacher at butte high and has taught at the middle and element school. Thank you for being here. Curtis thank you for having me. Moderator also with us, we have steve daines. Steve was raised in the area and also a product of the Montana School system. We worked for proctor and gamble and worked in his familys Construction Company and was selected as Vice President for right now. He was elected to the house in 2012. Steve and his wife have four children. It is great to see you tonight. Daines i appreciate it. Moderator we have mike denison on the panel tonight. For the past nine years, mike has worked for the newspaper state bureau but has been covering state house and government issues for 20 years. Big welcome to mike. Good to see you tonight, mike. Also we have with us the news director of yellowstone public radio who has been covering state and local politics for 20 years. Good to see you tonight and i know you have a bunch of good questions. Moderator and last but not least and sanjay. Those are our panelist tonight. Thank you very much. [applause] moderator all right. That is enough of the applause. I have the first question as the moderator. We flipped a coin before it started and amanda you get a chance to answer the first question. And it is this isis has been identified as one of the biggest threats face thing world and my question is did you believe president obamas response to the isis threat is adequate and if not perhaps when would you be willing to put Ground Troops on the ground to deal with that threat . Curtis isis is a Terrible Group and isis absolutely has a role to play but we cannot be the policemen of the world. We need to have a serious conversation about how much this is going to cost and where the money is going to come from. Moderator steve, same question, did you believe the president s response to the isis threat has been adequate and would you at some point be willing to put boots on the ground . Daines my concern with the president s response is the lack of clarity. We need a longterm strategy. 9 11 was 13 years ago and this is going to affect generations potentially. I dont support putting combat groups on the ground but we need a strategy with Energy Security and need to produce oil so the word looks to us for energy not the middle east. We need to secure our borders and ensure we dont have isis coming from the southern border and number three we need to ensure we have a coalition of middle east allies in supporting the United States in dealing with this serious threat. Moderator quick followup about boot putting boots on the ground. How should we pay for this war if it moves forward . Curtis i also dont agree with putting boots on the ground. It is up to the folks in that area to help us. We have seen politicians kick the can down the road and making sure we know how much it is degioiaing going to cost and who is going to pay for it. Moderator steve, two wars on the credit card already, how are we going to pay for this . Daines the isis forces are receiving 2 million a day from refined oil. So we cannot afford to stop this. I remember being in business during 9 11 when the economy froze so it is important we secure the homeland for this generation and our children and grandchildren. Moderator our first question from the panelist goes to jacky. Congressman daines, one year ago the republicans shutdown down government. Would you support a shutdown again if you get into a budget stalemate either with the president or fellow republicans . Daines the Government Shutdown was a failure of washington. It takes two parties to negotia negotiate a bill. Congress was standing up to protect from the harmful affects of obamacare. It takes two to sort it out. And during the Government Shutdown i refuse today take my salary and donated it. Because in the real world when you dont get results you arehold accountable for that. Are held and i said the failure of the system, and i didnt believe it was right to take salary during that time. Moderator amanda, your response. Curtis the Government Shutdown absolutely was a failure. And congressman daines has a clear voting record and that is one of the reasons i agreed to get into the nomination. He voted for the Government Shutdown that cost the state of montana millions of dollars and hurt montanas Small Businesses. He is so out of touch with how we live in the state we can afford to go without congressional pay but most families cant relate to that. Moderator congressman . Daines we worked hard to make sure we protected montanans against the shutdown. I broke with the republican majority to stop to shutdown and move forward with the government again. So it is as a failure of government and that is why it is important it never happens again. We just had that stalemate again and moved through it with reasonable and rational minds coming together and avoided another shutdown. Curtis i would just remind everyone that the shutdown did affect montanans and it affected all seven of the reservations because there were no plans for what would happen to them during the shutdown. Moderator follow up . Would you vote for a federal shutdown again is what i am asking you . Daines this was the first president in the history who would not sit down with congress and negotiate an increase to the debt ceiling. President obama did it before, president clinton, president reagan and president bush did it. This was unique in history that the he refused to sitdown and negotiate a deal. You need two parties sitting down, finding a solution and moving forward. Moderator one final comment. Curtis what i didnt hear is no, i would not vote for a Government Shutdown. No, i would not vote for a Government Shutdown because it cost our state millions and hurts montana businesses and our native American Reservations and the comments about compromise and working together are right and that is why it is important to not send the most extreme congressmen montana has ever had back to washington, d. C. As our senator. Moderator next question goes to mike. Representative curtis, you said you support the Affordable Care act and it helped people get insurance. What about the vast majority of people who had insurance but didnt get subsidies to buy it . Why should they support it . Curtis i was just at the bob cat tailgate the other day and i ran into a physician who has been practicing medicine for 30 years. He said it is really nice to meet you. Dont repeal the aca. He said he had a preexisting condition that made him as a Health Care Provider uninsu uninsureable and i have travelled over 8,000 miles across the state listening to residents having problems with delay of care and the cost of their insurance so i am just saying that i am willing to work with both sides of the aisle to fix these issues and make this bill work better for everyone. I actually have had the experience of having my Health Care Plan rise in cost so i am feeling that myself. Moderator steve, your rebuttal. Daines i will stand with the people of montana and not president obama. I have been to over within of the 56 counties and overall we dont like obamacare and want it repealed. We dont want to see a washingtonled solution. They create more problems. 35,000 people in the state lost their insurance. President obama said if you like your Health Insurance you can keep it well tell that to the 9,000 Medicare Advantage patients loosing their insurance. Moderator do you have a follow up . Curtis i am so glad president obama isnt on the ballot. The people who are is one of us who understand the rising cost of health care and the most extreme congressman we have ever had who instead of working for a solution threw a tantrum over something that is saving lives. Congressman daines, again on obamacare, you said you are interested in tort reform or Health Savings account and portability of plans across state lines are things you are interested in. But for people that can not afford Health Insurance now and havent been able to do you think those things will help them get Health Insurance and do you think we should have a policy as goal to get towards some kind of universal Health Coverage for people that can not afford it . Daines i believe the answers to the Health Care Problems is to have a montana solution. I didnt vote against obamacare 40 times. I voted once. Tort reform is a 1020 percent saving in defensive medicine cost. And expand hsas. And number three we need to allow American People to have a Tax Deduction who are not working for a company to receive the same Tax Deduction when they work for companies with employersponsored plans. I dont want a one size solution that works for california or new york. We need a rural montana solution. They dont want to see the solution made in washington, d. C. Hawaii they want it made here. Moderator amanda . Curtis congressman daines voted along tea party lines most of the times and that vote to repeal the aca was one of them. The aca provided for our state to expand medicare which would have provided Health Insurance to the most vulnerable of our citizens. Our legislature dropped the ball on that and i would like to continue to improve the aca and expand medicaid for all of our citizens in the next legislature. Moderator steve . Daines the Congressional Budget Office for 2020 says 21 million americans will still not have Health Care Coverage after the aca is implemented. Nancy pelosi sold this as a 950 billion project and now it is estimated at 1. 2 trillion spent after the aca is implemented. Curtis i have to step in here and say that when you look at the cost savings of preventing citizens from having their initial point of contact with the Health Care System be the enermergency room the amounf money saved by the country in the long run is astronomical. Daines just the update last week said the aca will add 130 billion to our debt. 31 million americans uninsured is raising the deficit. Take a look at the City Committee that just reviewed the budget forecast. Moderator sanjay, a follow up. About the 31 million unable to afford Health Insurance. If they cannot afford Health Insurance, can they afford Health Savings and will they benefit from Tax Deductions at all . Daines we need to solve this problem at the state level. States like indiana and utah are moving forward with programs and plans that will be unique to that states needs. Think about montana and a resident in winnock might be Something Different than someone in bozeman. We need a statefocused solution. Look at what the va did when it took over the Health Care System. Look at Indian Health services. When the federal government takes over a system it becomes expensive and the poor, disabled and elderly are not getting the care they need. Moderator your followup. Curtis i would ask anyone who voted to try to repeal the aca to explain that to my mom who hasnt had Health Insurance in 31 years but has access. Or explain that to my friend who as a Health Care Professional for the first time is considered able to be insured. Moderator moving along. Jacky . Because of the needs of police, roads, sewer and Water Systems is immediate and emense would you support the return of ear marks, otherwise cnn as congressional reports, to pay for the projects . Curtis in talking about eastern montana, it is important to remember our state has given corporati corporations making millions an 18month taxfree holiday. And perhaps we should be taxing instead of letting an out of state company come in and reap as many Natural Resources as it can and move on to the next well before it has to pay taxes. Moderator congressman daines . Daines i will answer the question. No, i dont support earmarks. They were abused. I had a career in politics prior to serving in the house of representatives. The problem with earmarks is you have members of congress using it to cut deals at the expense of the taxpayer. They use it to pad their own success at the expense of the American People. I serve on the Transportation Infrastructure Committee in the house and we can work through prioritizeing our projects without earmarks. Moderator amanda, rebuttal . Curtis i am also against earmarks and we should not send our congressman back to washington, d. C. To be in the senate who has supported giving incentives to ship corporations overs overseas. Moderator steve . Curtis t daines, the most important thing we want to do is see better paying jobs and less government. 50 of the people graduating from universities are underemployed or unemployed. People dont want to travel outside of the state to see their grandchildren. They want opportunities for people to stay here in montana. Moderator next question is for mike. Congressman daines, you said abortion should be illegal in most cases and oppose funding for planned parenthood. Why are these goals the right thing for montana . Daines it is important we provide contraception to women and make it accessible. But it is important we have a respect for life. We are a nation that has a Great Respect for life. If a soldier is left on the battlefield we will riv risk the lives of 20 seals for one life. Our declaration of independence says life, liberty and happiness are what we stand for. They are the most vulnerable and have no voice in our society and that is why i will stand for life for those who are the most vulnerable. Moderator amanda . Curtis congressman daines sponsored a bill that would ban most kinds of contraception. When i was 16 years old, i accessed planned parenthood and i dont know if you notice but there is only one woman standing on the stage and women can absolutely trust me to trust them. Moderator congressman daines . Daines i am a father of four children. Two sons and two daughters. It is important to make sure some someday my daughters will have access to contraception when they need it. I think it is very important we stand to ensure the women across this country have full access to contraception. We need to make sure we stand up and respect the First Amendment and there is an issue of freedom of speech there. That is why it is important we stand for women and ensure they have access to contraception. Curtis i would just step in and say what congressman daines just said in mentioning the First Amendment is he is reminding us he supports the hobby lobby decision saying a corporation can make my Health Care Decisions for me and as a woman senator, i absolutely disagree with that. Moderator next question is sanjay. Representative curtis, you said you support the jobs coming from the coal industy and the development of the keystone xl pipeline. On the other hand, many of your supporters also have serious concerns about Climate Change and global warning which is caused by fossil fuel burning. Are we going to have it both ways . Saying to the Environmental Community that you are concerned about Global Warming . Curtis you asked a lot of questions. Coal is an important part of the economy and i support the good jobs it produces. As far as the Climate Change part of that, i stepped up to the plate saying i am willing to work with both sides of the aisle and anyone who is willing to have the conversations about how we support all sectors of the economy and not just the Largest Corporation and wealthiest individuals. Part of that is creating a Long Term Plan for shifting to greener technologies, renewables like wind and solar. Moderator congressman daines . Daines i support building the keystone xl pipeline. It took the canadian government 6 months to approve the pipeline. It has taken the president seven years. This president needs to stand with the people of montana who want the keystone xl pipeline built. On the issue of coal, 5,000 jobs and 125 million of revenue that supports schools, teachers, infrastructure and lowcost electricity. This president and the epa are declaring war on coal. A war on coal is a war on the people of montana and that is what the president is waging on the National Resources in montana. Moderator amanda . Curtis congressman daines spent much of his time building up jobs in china and incentvises companies that shift profits and our jobs to china. So it is no surprise he would fight hard to ship our oil and refinery jobs to china. We should be demanding the permanent jobs that will come from building the infrastructure to build it here. Daines my opponent was against the keystone xl pipeline originally and now supports if it is made here. There is a law that prohibits the export of crude. All of the keystone oil is going to be refined in the United States. That was signed in 1975. So i am not sure why she but the condition on the keystone xl pipeline. It will all be refined here. We cannot export crude because of the law. Curtis if i can defend myself. My dad is a laborer and they depend on temporary jobs like the keystone xl pipeline to feed, clothe and ensure our kids so i understand better than anyone how important those temporary jobs are. Moderator you are watching the u. S. Senate debate on the Montana Television debate. We will be back in one minute. A look at some of the ads running in the race. I am Amanda Curtis and i approve the message. We know it isnt People Like Us that get to make the decisions in washington. The only way to change washington is to elect folks that know what it is like when times are tough. I come from a family that is like a lot of other families. I stepped up to the plate to be a voice for the working families like us. Working families in montana deserve people working like us. Steve understands how important Hunting Fishing and the outdoors is to montanas heritage. He is fighting to increase the land and passed Bipartisan Legislation to protect areas around Glacier National park. Steve daines is defending our montana way of life and getting results. Moderator we welcome you back to msu billings for tonights United States Senate Debate between democrat Amanda Curtis and republican steve daines. We are live with yellowstone public radio and cspan 2. I will ask about your ads. Amanda, we finally saw one of your ads saying we need one of us in the senate. I have talked to people that say we need people a lot smarter than us. Are you suggesting we need to dumb down the senate or maybe you have explaining to do . Curtis that is such an interesting perspective. When our Founding Fathers wrote our founding documents they did not ever intend for corporations to be running the show here. They intended for teachers, eelectricians and plumbers to be doing the process. Maybe people dont think they are smart enough or have the right background and the reason i stepped up to the plate is to prove you dont have to be a silver spoon, career politician to represent working families and that the best person to represent workers in this state is one of us. Getting to your experience, amanda, do you think you have the experience to represent the senate with one year in the house of representatives and your background as a High School Teacher . Curtis absolutely. I am sure most folks have read about my background of growing up in poverty here in billings and the adversity i experienced. Most people know i dedicated by life to education because it is the pathway of overcoming the adversity i experienced. The experiences i had in a working class family in the state of montana absolutely make be the best person to be our first in the United States senate. Daines i agree we need more men and women who have real world experiences and taking the skills learned in the private sector out of washington to help lead the country. Mom and dad group in billing and my grandmother lives on the same home for 45 years until she passed away a couple months ago. I started growing up seeing mom and dad start their own construction businesses, i worked over the summer and i think we need people who have experience growing jobs and businesses. We talk about jobs but i am the only candidate on the stage who has been out there and created hundreds of high paying jobs in montana. Moderator quick rebuttal. Curtis i have to apologize to all of the teachers out there because we know teachers are also very important job creators in our state and country. Steve, i have a question about your ads. One of them talks about the balanced budget accountability act but the fact is ever since introduced it has been sitting in committee but the ad makes it sound like everything is cool and we balanced the budget and Congress Wont get paid unless the budget is balanced. Daines there is the problem in washington. When i talk about that idea with montana they loved the idea. Lets not pay congress to get the budget balanced. You go back to washington, d. C. And that is how broken it s. Members of congress dont want to get on board with that idea because that holds them accountable. But i think we have to reform the entire system we need an amendment that require as balanced budget. In montana we balance the budget every legislative session because there is a requirement to balance the budget. They cannot leave home without it. 49 states have that require. But washington, d. C. Doesnt. So that is the battle we face in that culture in washington. These careerpoliticians have been there too long and we need to change the house and senate by electing more men and women. Isnt that bill just symbolic . Congress still gets paid if it passes because it only reduces a portion of the salary. Daines no, it would impact the current and future congress. That is why we have resistance from members of congress. We had discussions and they said that might mean i dont get paid. That is exactly the reason i introduced that bill. Because if congress refuses to balance the budget they will not get paid. We need to hit members of congress in their pocket books because they are hitting us in their pocket book. A quick rebuttal. Curtis i dont know if you are familiar with the average earnings in congress, but i can guarantee newt not a single one of them is worried about loosing their salary. And if all of congressman daines ads were telling the truth i would not have to be standing in front of you. Moderator jacky your next. Congressman daines, i am asking for specific solutions to keep the Health Care Program for Senior Citizens fiscally s solvent. Daines we need to engage in an adult discussion on how we preserve medicare for the generations going forward. As i thought, reflected and looked at what is going on in washington, here is the problem. As soon as someone suggests a reform to save medicare for future generations immediately 30 second ads pop up and whoever suggests that idea is vilified in the political process. We have to start with two operating principles. Number one, we are not going to touch the benefits of existing Seniors Today or those approaching retirement. But number two, we are going to have to move forward with reforms or our children and our grandchildren will not receive this important safety net. It will be gone in their generation. The trusties project it will run out in 2033. We dont have a lot of time. But it will require a bipartisan agreement between republicans and democrats sitting down and agreeing that we going to get this down. There was a tent for that. Starting to shoot straight and got caught in the politics of washington and it died. Moderator amanda, your rebuttal. Curtis i will absolutely support the medicare protection act that protects the age. We can cut down on improper payments and keep the solvent down. We need to support programs that keep montanans in their homes and communities. I will point to congressman daines voting record. He voted to turn medicare into a voucher system that would cost montana seniors up to 50 more in their premiums. Moderator congressman daines . Daines that is inaccurate i never voted for a voucher system. But i just introduced a bill that looks at one of the problems in washington. The Affordable Care act is going to impose a hardship on those businesses that provide inhome health care for medicare patients. My grandmother had that here in billings. She preferred to stay in her home and have someone come to her home and care for her instead of being in an institution and assisted living. It was better for her and more cost effective. And the Affordable Care act is placing a burden, and the bill i introduced asked for a twoyear reprieve on that. But here is another consequence of the Affordable Care act. Moderator amanda . Curtis i would just like to remind everyone that congressman daines has a clear voting record that can not be ignored. He has a 10 rating with different senior organizations and i will support the Older Americans act that provides Services Like meals on wheels and the Montana Aging Services that keep seniors in their home and in their communities. Moderator next question to mike. Representative curtis, youive received an frating from the nra. If i am a gun owner and care about gun rights why should i vote for you . Curtis i am a staunch sporter of my Second Amendment right. My husband and i were out shooting the browning 12 gauge light that his grand father who passed away left us. This is just another example of the other side not being able to talk about the issues we have outlined so they turn to making me look like something that i am not. Moderator congressman daines . Daines i have been a life long member of the nra, grew up accessing and hunting and fishing on public land, and enjoying shooting sports. I killed my first antelope with my grandfather and have great memories. But the Second Amendment is not about hunting. It is about freedom. It is about liberty. I received an aplus rating from the nra. It is the highest score ever given in montana. My opponent received the lowest score every given in the state of montana. I think it represents her extreme views on this issue. Moderator amanda . Curtis the nra started out as a safety group is now another lobbying group for special interest and montanans should be more worried about accessing their public land and as long as we talk about accessing our public land so we can use our firearm and talking about voting records let me just point out that congressman daines has the lowest rating on conversation of any congress of man to represent the state at 4 . Moderator next question for sanjay. Congressman daines, you called to a montanamade solution as to how we manage the National Forest and restore or ailing timber industy. A bill has been pushed that mandates levels in three National Forest. Why not go for with an agreement that could get timber flowing and work forward to expand it to around the country as you said you would like to do. Daines we had 30 active saw mills growing up and now we are down to 10. It isnt because of the housing indus indus indus industy. We are at 65 because they cannot get enough timber. So johns bill was a good start but it affected three National Forest and hasnt gotten to the senate floor. We passed a bill in the house to restore Healthy Communities and it will create thousands of timber jobs and it will be there in perpetuity. The bill john had sets in 15 years. So it is a good start. But we have to pass the house with bipartisan support. We have a bill moving forward and have a chance to pass a bill that deals with timber reform and bring back the timber industy. Remember the libby loggers . I had dinner one night with a couple of them and they said you know how to describe Lincoln County . Poverty with a view. We need to change that. Moderator amanda, your response. Curtis when i was in the montana legislature, i saw hundreds of montanans show up and stay late into the night waiting to testify in favor of the forest jobs and recreational act. That bill was written by mont a montanans and for montanans. And he took the made solution and favored a washington bill. He wanted to sell our public land to out of state developers. Moderator congressman daines . Daines that last statement was false. We pushed to study all of the federal assets. For example, there is a Federal Building in washington, d. C. Worth over a hundred Million Dollars that have been vacant for 12 years. It might make sense to sell that building. But we will not allow the sale of public land here. And i will fight for that. There is two billon acres of montana land that is not accessible and the bill i cosponsored said we need to get to those two million acres so montanans have better access to their public land. Moderator quick followup . Curtis sure. The bill he talked about was political grand standing and i know that because he went back and turned around and voted against funding for access to public lands. And how many more timber jobs will we have once they are done clear cutting the forest. Moderator next question knows to jacky. Representative curtis, immigration is raising serious concern about our national security, our economy, and now our public health. What do you think should be done to give america greater control over who enters the country while also satisfying the needs of the workforce for labor . Curtis i have a biology degree and spent hours working in labs and i absolutely trust the best doctors in the world. Those who are working for the centers for Disease Control and the National Institute of health. It is important to fund the agencies that are responsible for protecting our country from biological threats. Congressman daines voted for a shutdown that cost those agencies millions of dollars and made it harder for those specialist to do their jobs. He voted against ending the sequestration that would have restored funding to the cdc and National Institute of health. Moderator congressman daines . Daines the question is on border security. We need to secure our border. Representative poe from texas was along the rio grande talking to the brave men and women in the Border Patrol. He said from january 1early july the Border Patrol had arrested people from 144 Different Countries including three ukraine residents. We must secure the border for isis threats and ebola threats and to maintain the security. Curtis i will support responsible Immigration Reform and both sides of the aisle have worked together and put forth the bills that would increase the number of worker visas so unskilled labors up to workers with master degrees in s. T. E. M. Areas will be able to stay and work in the country and have a reasonable pathway to citizenship. That is the kind of working together that the i will represent. Moderator mike . Congressman daines, you have been talking about jump starting the economy and creating more jobs in montana. Most of things you talked about were in clearing the decks for business, making it easier to less regulation and lower taxes, how is this not just warmed over trickle down economics . If i am mischaracterizing that tell me. How have you shon you will help the middle class . Daines one is moving forward with an Energy Security strategy. One of the greatest challenges for the middle class and getting a high paying job but also high Energy Prices. We need to approve tkeystone xl pipeline. I was in glascow and they told me if the keystone xl pipeline is approved those few thousands coops will see no rate increase. If it isnt approved they will see a 40 increase. And that is because they securing the pump. That is how you help the People Living month to month. We do that by creating jobs and making sure Energy Prices are low. Why are gas prices dropping in the country . Because the Saudi Arabians see the United States is going to be the leading oil producer in the world surpassing russia and saudi arabia in oil production. And that is not because of obama that is in fight of obama. Moderator Amanda Curtis . Curtis you know, middle class montana, ask yourself are you better off in the last two years you had congressman daines . We sent more of the same to washington, d. C. To vote for millionaires and billionaires and just heard it yourself. I rolled out a plan that emphasis Small Businesses as the backbone in the state and emphasises agriculture which is hampered at every part of the process by the corporate side. I will work with both side of the aisle to come up with solutions that work for all sectors of the economy. Not just the biggest corporat n corporations and the wealthiest individuals. Moderator rebuttal congressman daines . Daines you take a trip out to the hundreds of people that depend on coal. The Crow Indian Reservation has a 50 Unemployment Rate and without the development of Coal Resources their Unemployment Rate would be 8090 percent. How do you help the hard working taxpayers . You help them by making sure they have a job. That is county commissioners across montana support the timber bill. We get good, high paying jobs in our Natural Resources industy here in montana. Timber, oil, natural gas, coal, hydro, and all of it. But we need to make sure we continue to support and expand our Coal Production in montana. Moderator amanda, quick rebuttal. Curtis i will support the indian coal tax credit and understand how Important Energy is to our economy. I have actually spoken with the workers in the Yellowstone County refineries who are very concerned their refining jobs are going to be shipped down that pipeline. Moderator just a couple minutes to go and i will take the last question. Here on the campus of msu billings. And they had a poll out today that showed in this race 2025 percent of the people have not yet made up their mind. So give us your pitch amanda for these people sitting on the fence. They might determine who wins this. Curtis medicare and Social Security need to be preserved and who is going to do hat . One of us. Someone that understand these programs are programs that workers in montana have paid into for decades and should be able to retire without worrying where their groceries or health care is going to come from. Our access to public land needs to be preserved and who is going to do that . One of us. Someone who understand that montan montan montan montan montanans are not able to take a vacation without that access. Certainly not a congressman who voted to sell off land and the congressman who received the most amount of money from Citizens United who think corporations are people and. Montanans disagree with that. Daines montanans want to see someone who has the experience growing jobs up and has an aplus rating from the nra. A lot of montanans vote with their guns and that is an important issue. It shows the extreme positions my opponent has taken particularry relating to the Second Amendment. I stand for more jobs. We need someone who will stand up for obama. Moderator we have to go to our closing statement and you have the first. Didn didnt want you to use up your good information. Daines i want to thank the moderators and the people of montana for giving me the privilege of serving as your congressman for the past two years. I love our state and it is an honor to serve as a congressman. I saw my mom and dad start up a Home Construction business, got a degree in engineering and worked for 28 years creating good, high paying jobs. Perhaps that engineering background allows me to take a look at a problem and find a solution. That is why in my first year of congress, i was ranked as the number one most Effective Member of congress of 75. We were ranked number one because we moved legislation through and got things passed. We want more high paying jobs and less government. You know, we need washington, d. C. To look more like montana. We dont want montana to look more like washington, d. C. Several months ago, i was at the Yellowstone County fair and ran into a cowboy from eastern montana. He had leather hands and was over 90 years old and had hunched back and a cowboy hat on. He said steve, i fought in world war ii in europe. I fought for my country but fgrw up in eastern montana and i am glad to be here all my life. And he said with tears in his eyes i have never been so afraid for my country. We need a New Washington and a new president and i will stand with the people of montana and i will not stand with president obama. I will thank you for coming tonight and i will kindly ask for your support on november 4th. Moderator Amanda Curtis, your time is now. Curtis i agreeed to make this nomination for several reasons. One being i would not have to run a negative, personal campaign. My opponent have a voting record that can not be ignored. His voting record shows how out of touch he is with montanans needs. Voters in montana deserve to be as fully informed as they can when they go to cast their battle and one debate two weeks after ballots dropped is not what we asked for. It is a lot less than Montana Voters deserve. But it is a start. And i think after tonight everyone can see there is a Crystal Clear choice for montanans on november 4th between congressman daines, the most extreme congressman montana has ever had. Or myself. A woman who truly is one of us, who understands our struggle, working month to month without ever getting ahead because washington, d. C. Policies tilt the Playing Field against us at every turn. I will work with anyone who is willing to come up with solutions that help all sectors of the economy just not the biggest corporations and the wealthiest individuals. I will support montana made solutions to accessing pubic all lands and sciencebased research of our forest and wildlife. I will protect Social Security and the Montana Aging Services. As montanas first female senator i will vote for equal pay for equal work and raising the minimum wage because we all know that the best way to stimulate the economy is to empower the middle class and working families. Thanks very much for having me. [applause] moderator there you have it. Nice job and thank you for joinic us on the Montana Television network and our friends on yellowstone public radio and the montana news network. We will see you on election night. [applause] the Montana Television Network Thanks you for watching campaign 2014. Brought u. S. 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