One, do you make a have a distinction between things being unequal, not mr. Cicilline ing the as things being unfair . Ng im finding that a common problem with people that talk about this publicly especially in the political arena. Just because things are unequaln doesnt mean they are being treated unfair. Number two, in reference to what richard was saying prior to me, du acknowledged its not just a matter of who your parents are insourcing, but how will you respond education . Theres lots of well educated people that respond in a very mediocre way to get education that they have. And then my question is, what do you feel is the best way to assess the problem of somebody come a group of people that got a bad start as a result of the parents that are very capable as far as being part of the american way . Thats it. Guest absolutely. Those are very powerful and important questions. Thank you very much. On the first issue, unequal is necessary unfair. I think thats correct. Just thinking about it, folks at home id be saying the rich have always been getting richer. Whats the big deal . I think again as we demonstrate in the report thats not always it has not always b its the case that the ceo of General Motors in 1960 had much more income than the janitor at General Motors. Thats circuitry and that reflects that ceo has more responsibility and the janitor does. R but over time whats happened is that ceo has continued to rise why canada has been falling. It doesnt reflect in our view changes in the billy. It just reflects changes in the economy that are biased the growth and income to float to the top 1 . T i agree with you, unequal is not necessary unfair. We are asking the question that he doesnt seem to be a good reason why income would be so poorly distributed on to your second point with respect to it matters a lot how you use your education to i couldnt agreeee. More. A simple point i think, counterpoint would be to think about the great recession, the most severe recession we have experienced since the great depression. It is widely acknowledged that a key contributor to those events were the financial executives at the nations major banks, mortgage lenders to use of folkg with some of the best education money can buy and they succeeded in facilitating destruction of billions, trillions of dollars in value in the u. S. , not to say that they are solely responsible but to acknowledge that education come irreplaceable but there are also is Something Else going on thats driving income to the topic to your third point, perhaps beyond any quality, our greatest challenge continues to be what do we do for kids in poor school w districts in baltimore, in philadelphia in downtown losph angeles . Executive tremendous ability. What we need to do is step up and provide them with the resources so they can achieve the full potential that they have. I think thats one of the most pressing issues we face. Climate change any quality and how were going to lift up millions of kids who really are our future and we will depend upon. Host in the state of new than 2takes more than million to be the average of the 2 million to be the average of the top of 1 in the state of new york. Just to make 1 , just mak to mat to the top 1 you need to make at least 500,000 if the average income of the other 99 in new york is about 44,000. We are talking with mark price of the Economic Policy institute about his report. Time for one or two more calls. Do we have anymor any more back, bark price . We will take david for a second in new york, new york, on the life of the civic under 25,000. Go ahead. Callback i want to say that this income inequality has been going on for so many decades. S. The rich are getting richer. We are like brazil now come close to bangladesh in the division of wealth between rich and poor. People cant buy things as the french economist wrote a book, n people, Service Sector centered but we cant buy anything. Minimum wage. If people go to the neighborhoods in the bronx, i live in manhattan, went stabilized apartment long time been a. But people suffer on a daily basis. People suffer in this country so that onetenth of 1 can be billionaires. People should go back to senator Sanders Campaign stump speeches to see, he highlighted the sense that we cant forget, now that we have a choice, what is a choice between donald trump and somebody else who i will vote for Hillary Clinton, but i donw think establish the Democratic Party or the Republican Party are served as well and have brought us into the situationa where we are at the precipice of a neofascist host Hillary Clinton isy. Going to be in columbus, ohio, today. It is being billed as a Major Economic address by herbert what did you expect to hear . Do you think some of those ideas from bernie from Bernie Sanders that you gee is referencing that you want to more of, do you think that will rub off on Hillary Clinton . Callback yes, i really do. Ive been watching, thank you committee debate. Latform committee. And discussions. They are so wonderful. T is because of thats because of Bernie Sanders biggest something everybody has gotten religion really on social issues, social justice. Me of those things and so well have a good platform, we will have a unity movement. That i hope bernies movement that the Political Revolution can continue as in charge of the Democratic Party to do what tava smiley and cornell west tried to do with our wonderful president t obama, push him from the left for social justice. I hope that continues to i think the youth of america, im 67 but the youth of america are wonderful. Ri 45 and younger. Nderful, 45 and e have shown themselves to be wonderful and we need is Political Revolution to continue because unless we get money out of politics host got your point. We are running out of town. Bellwood illinois. 50,000 in annl can you make it quick . Callback just want to make a quick comment. Im a minority. Not as good as sound like i just was a quick comment but Hillary Clinton taught me about income any quality. She wishes when you get thousands of dollars forr her se 1eeches and [inaudible] im a young person and i can get my education like, like i canti can afford college, like. Who knows whats going tost happen . Host mark price, i want to leave it with you in a last minute or so, mounting debt and how it is impacting peoples ability to make money . Guest absolutely. Part of the discussion today focused on the folk predicted education fix a bill right. Thats another issue where you would know or its harder and harder for people to get accessg to a good quality higher education. Increasing states are cutting back support for public universities and thats led to a rise in tuition and for a lot of students to just look at a choif terrible choice, a mountain of Student Loan Debt in order to do what were asking them to do in order to lift themselves up. Its clearly another illustration that policy is gone in a very poor direction, that its helped feed this inequality because its putting kids today a really an unforgivable position of having to mortgage their future in ways that their parents and their grandparents were not expected to do and i think thats unfortunate. Host the name of the report income inequality, markt, price is an economist, one of the coauthors of the report. Thanks for taking time to talk about it with us today. Guest thank you, john. Al it was great to be. Post a both president ial candidates set to get the First National security briefings sometime this week according to news reports. We are joined on the phone by former acting director of the cia John Mclaughlin for some insight into what is inside of those briefings. Director mclaughlin, thank you for joining us this morning. Guest good morning, bill. Host how did these briefings come about . When did they first start . Guest theyve been doing briefings like this since 1952nc when harry truman was president. Truman recognized that the candidates that year, dwight eyes of an adlai stevenson, should be briefed on Foreign Policy before they walk into the oval office in order to be prepared for what was then a very small jewels world. Its been going on all of the time since. While i was in office i did visit several times, briefed candidate bush in 2000 beenca briefed john kerry a couple of times in 2004. Been pres and had been president clintond briefer after was elected in the period when he was president elect. Host in this atmosphere of these reported russian hacks, how does a cia director or a briefer ensure that briefing states classified first in terms of where its done and in terms of other people allowed in the room . Guest at the end of the day you are trusting the discussion of the candidate and other people who may accompany him are typically a candidate in these briefings is not accompanied by a large number of people. There might be one or two close aides who are allowed to be there. At the end of the day, you are really just trusting their discretion, patriotism, good judgment and order to maintain the confidentiality of what they are hearing. Host for the candidates to specific threats or general, broad issues of National Security . Guest in my experience its quite specific in terms of the threats and the assessment of them. Its less specific in terms of the precise nature of the sources, the identity of thee sources that are contributing to those assessments. And also the methods by which intelligence acquired that information. So in other words, you really dont hold back on the bottom line if you will. Heres whats happening in china, in russia, in iran, in syria, in quite clear terms, but you dont go into all of the details about precisely how we f acquired of this and so forth. That comes after a person is elected president at which time of course they are entitled to anything they want to know from the intelligence world. Host ahead of election day or ahead of one of them being elected president , how often are these briefings done . Guest it varies. Some president ial candidates, for example, president bill clinton, or candidate bill clinton i think have one of these briefings for an hour or two. Senator john kerry as i recalled had at least two and maybe more. I certainly did to the there may have been some additional briefings with him. There are times when candidates have had four, five sessions with intelligence as thehe Campaign Goes a long. So the frequency and the location of the briefings ise negotiate with the city whitee house between the candidates, representatives at the white house. So they can vary from one to many depending on what the two sides agree on. Host with its been a president ial candidate or a member of congress, have you ever had concerns over briefing an individual and what would s disqualify somebody from receiving one of these briefings . Guest i have not had concerns like that in the past. And in the few number of times ive done this of course. What would disqualify someone . I think what would really disqualify them would be raking the rules after the briefing. In other words, effect of such a briefing they simply went out and talked openly about everything that had beente discussed in terms of, in terms of data violated the term understanding that they would it be discreet about what they heard. That i think would also the disqualify them but im not aware in the past of in the past that they think someone has dono before the briefings that would disqualify them. Many people ask this question. They ask in the of some of the things that donald trump has said, is it okay to brief him . Heres how i see. I think when somebody becomes a president ial candidate, they are entitled to these briefings. You simply have to trust that having reached that stage ofof political achievement, that they are going to handle these briefings responsibly. That is where i am on that. We l host i will direct our viewers and our listeners to a piece you wrote about a month ago on what comes first intelligence briefing we look alike, from John Mclaughlin. Is it director clapper will do this first briefing . Do you have an idea of when that might be this week . Guest i dont know when it will be. It will be director clapper who organizes the. I do know that he will do it personally chair keep me. There have been instances in the past would have at Intelligence Committee has done this personally. I believe that was the case with candidate bill clinton. Back all those years. But director clapper, he will organize it and designate who will do the briefings. Could be himself, could be somebody designates. Could be one person, could the 18th of people that its been done both ways and i do know precisely how that is going to happen or when it will happen. Host former acting director of the cia in the Bush AdministrationJohn Mclaughlin. They do so much for the insight this morning. Guest thank you, bill. Did you miss any of the National Conventions . You can go back and watch every moment. Go to cspan. 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