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The 100 days comes up next week. There was a piece coming out in the washington post, but between 13 pieces of statute, new laws, not regulations between the syria reaction, the afghanistan, the response in north korea, the budget, and especially because of justice course gorsuch. Whats significant about the budget . That he has broken out of the starvation he is not known for being defense spending, he is a budget hawk so hes always got a bigger National Security problem. I was a little surprised he would undercut defense. Its still not what it needs to be. There isnt enough money but its going in the right direction. After the shutdown that will be coming. Chuck schumer want to shut down. He will cause a shut down. His hardcore 10 seems to be fighting. Senator schumer is a very smart guy. He knows it was not smart to filibuster neil gorsuch because they reduced the ability to nominate Supreme Court for 51 votes as opposed to having a filibuster available next time and now its down to 51 votes. He did not have a good reason to do that. He will be forced by his base to shut down the government. This time theyve always shut down when republicans are in the white house spread this time a republican president gets to pick what stays open and what shuts down. Will not shut down the Mount Rushmore or the arch or the national mall, we will shut down npr. They will shut down all sorts of things that the left loves. Wait until they get word that theyre not getting any money for a while. I will be very tough on him. How do you grade the Health Care Debate that was held. That was a fiasco for republicans. Part of that is the president s fault, part of its paul ryans fault but mostly i blame the Freedom Caucus or the area 51 sub caucus within the Freedom Caucus who believe in legislative flying saucers. They pretend the senate has more republicans than it does. They pretend Susan Collins are going to cut medicaid, theyre not. They pretend the rollback of preexisting conditions can be pushed away. N they pretend a lot. Those 20 25 members have got to realize incrementalism works. Well ge hopefully by this time a month from now we will get there but it wont happen for 400 a. When you look at the fourth way, what are the issues they have to get over. They have to get over immigration, i put that in the beginning of the book. One doctor kid has been deported. He said dont worry, were keeping you and thats very good. I think he telegraphed once the border wall goes up and we have additional security on the order there is a deal to be had with Immigration Reform. He has got to have an infrastructure package. They talk about how too do that the right way. I can get ten times as much done with one tenth of the money, and i think hes done the most effective thing in repudiating the form policy. Eann hes been very effective at doing it the right way thus far. What you mean when you say the fourth way. That you have a 350 ship maybe, a much larger marine corps that we presently have and you do everything you have to be great strength and not weakness. You drop 59 cruise missiles on a mass murderer. You dont draw a redline. Michael was on this program a little earlier to talk about his book. One of the things he writes in his most recent book is that donald trump is the most dangerous racist demagoguee weve ever had in office. That overlooks the fact that a lot of people prior to the civil war were slaveholders. Hes a very smart guy and a agri provocateur, but youd have to erase Civil War History to get to that point. I dont agree with him on that point. T, t i also agree, i dont think hes a racist or homophobic i dont believe any of that stuff. Hes a developer. Ive represented developers for 30 years. They are who they need to be when they need to be that in order to get the deal done that they want done. I really dont think michael is right. Id be happy to debate him about that. He threat question which was a very funny question. Michael knows what its doing. During the primary, who are you supporting . I didnt. During the debate i was switzerland. I did 170 interviews with every republican except jim gilmer who i never thought, im not going to go to jim gilmore. 170 different interviews and i think each candidate would say i was fair to them from beginning to end. After trump won the nominationti i criticized him. After that was over, i was not in the least, i campaigned with a few other people, and we went to some blue statesi that turned red. House paul ryan doing. Hes doing fine except for the healthcare fiasco. That was a big deal. I think the speaker, along with Mitch Mcconnell needs to t spend a lot more time to explain we could get wiped out in 2018 if we do not deliver a sufficient number of legislative victories. Their real victories and significant beyond what people understand because they are bars to the door goingn forward. You cant go back and regulate in an area where regulation has been repealed. There are 13 of those. In fact, were talking about the paris agreement, thats a regulation under the Congressional Review Act statute. If the house and Senate Repeal that by simple majority, not only will be be out of the paris agreement, we wont be able to go back there except for by statutory act. Im kind of hoping they go inl that direction soon. Hugh hewitt is our guest. His most recent book is called the fourth way, the playbook for lasting gop majority. Heres how you can call us, 202 7488200. For those of you in the eastern time zone. We will also put up her twitter address if you would like to send a tweet booktv and facebook. And you can make comment there and youll see a posting about the festival of books. Facebook. Com we will get to those calls in just a few minutes. The map re in 2006 you wrote a book painting the map red, the fight to create a republicanre majority. T does that book stand up. It has because like the fourth way, it calls for a border fence and Immigration Reform and a large navy. I have been urging the visible expression to sovereignty for quite a long time. The border fence exists in san diego. Ive been there many times. It works. Its effective. I also believe once its in place most americans will go for a sweeping regulation. No one is in the deportation mood in california. No one walks around here worrying about deportation. I argued for in 2006. They went for amnesty and regularization is different. Ss i think donald trump will deliver along with the fence in the navy and judges. The recipe is the same. When republicans follow that they win. Ld trump by 3 its updated ten years later but its the same recipe. we h. You been threatening, every time i talk too, threatening to leave the state. We are out here for the winter, when i speak at the school of law and i will continue to teach there and i will retire when im done and i will come back to california and you go where your wife goes. Thats the deal. We are back in virginia and california is in a bad way. I know you mentioned you have a panel on california. Whats never talked about is the liability in california which is closing in on 400 billion. We were in downtown l. A. And the potholes are enormous. The roads are in bad shape. The infrastructure problem are immense and we will have an earthquake one of these days that will put the ones ive lived through to shame. California is not ready for that. They have 13. 1 income tax on the highest wage earner. Im against us, but it looks like they want to get rid of the Home Mortgage deduction deduction and wants to get rid of the state and local tax. Thats political suicide. If it does happen, there wont be any republicans left in california. Kevin mccarthy will get wiped out, devon nunez, theyve got 15 republicans from california. If they pass that reform, the republicans will get the house back. N why did they win so big in california. This my friend would like me to say this, i met the governor at a fundraiser and ive always liked pete, but prop90 pi 187 which was a 1990 proposition, that was the first get tough proposition that began a crackup of latino support. The District Attorney iniv riverside county, his mom is mexican, he is the highestranking latino that the Republican Party can call o their own. Is a seasoned prosecutor, hes our future hope, but if we dont expand to the latino population, they will never, we dont have an office right now and there wont be one. We talked about whos the least worst democrat. E presiden this is near the land of the blue. No republicans is ever going to break. When progressives get upset and they march and they get spun up, three or 4 , but they can do without, it would be neither of the interest. [inaudible] whats more likely is they can break into five states. That would give us ten more senators. I like that. Joe is calling in from pittsburgh what do you think of him and his views. N he voted for obama opposed to john mccain because sarah palin was on the ticket. T. Before joe what is your view . Actually, my view, i voted for mike pence as opposed to hos mrs. Clinton was a lowlife and trump is a lowlife so its the lesser of two evils for me. A very talented writer but i dont look to him for political cues. N i think right now it was a binary choice in november. I may be the only person at 30 rock who voted for donald trump, but the country would be way over here on the left if secretary clinton had become president clinton and jue neil gorsuch wouldnt be the justice and we wouldve lost the Supreme Court in originall is in forever. Justice breyer, he came to my studio and said he mostly regretted that redistrictingof p decisions being 54 against him. If the majority of the Supreme Court ever delves into redistricting they will come up with a rule that magically upholds every democratrepublican favoring redistricting. I thought for five months ago the Republican Party was doomed, now im feeling pretty good about it and we have them to thank for that. Nancy. You mentioned president obamas Foreign Policy and you said something about kind of a thumbsup with President Trump. Did wi he went into syria and did what he did without gettinga any okay from anyone. President obama tried to do the right thing and you go to congress and you get the approval and they were giving President Trump a thumbsup so just what is your perspective on how its okay for president l trump to go in unilaterally . Is a great question. Thank you. Ign policy ive told them that his presidency can be summed up in a few words. Leaving from behind, red lines, crimea, aleppo, it was a Foreign Policy of passively and retreat i define success road as the and defeat and it left america and our allies weaker in the world. donald trump trumps action against bashar assad in syria was what any president ought to do and it is constitutional within their commander in chief authority. Theres a war powers act which i believe is unconstitutional. And i think the great weight of opinion is that the action that President Trump took visavis syria was constitutional. President obama could have dutch and it chose not. To i criticized republicans at the time for that giving him the authority to do it but their answer in response was he promis their answer in response is that he promised a perfect and that would have been worse than nothing at all. Im not satisfied with that to s answer but i believe history will record president obamas decision to erase the redline as the defining moment of his presidency and a disaster for his legacy and the country. In. You should ask why he banned bob woodward from the Nixon Library and if that is not proof of the impulse for hypocrisy from the american rights. Ic thats a great story. I was doing a tour of the Nixon Library in 1989 when it was being built and two hours in the al qaeda and end it she asked,ot can anyone use a i said lightheartedly, not bob woodward that became the story of the headline. I have since got to know bob very well. The fact of the matter is i do not. However bob woodward has done extruded a work on the last three president s in real time in a series of books. I dont know how critical, i feel billet but president nixon fi overwhelming. Why do you not like the final days work this is the final day that president nixon died. I was live on pbs with big bird when in my ear, the green light came on and they said, i s right when the light comes on, you do your delivery and im standing next to big bird and i said present network has died in an interview with bergs right ahead. It was a shock. I knew and liked president nixon very well. I served him twice. Lesson f much underappreciated, more appreciated now and i think a great lesson for donald trump is that Richard Nixon was brought down by people that were too loyal to him. Hyper partisan loyalists can get your presidency in big trouble. You want loyal people but you dont want hyper loyal people who are doing things in your name that you dont know about. Richard nixon didnt know about the watergate breakin. And for that he had to resign. What about steve bannon mark. Ive talked to him exactly once. Asking him to do an interview with me and he will but he declined at that time. I have heard so many stories about steve bannon and i make a point not to pick a side on people until i met them and talk to them on the radio. E im not a fan of breitbart. I dont read it. I know some people are good and there are a lot of good writers there but im afraid that it can be hyperbolic, that it can inflate what not to be inflated. My news regime in the morning and im on from 6 00 a. M. To 9 00 a. M. In the morning. I start with the times of london , the New York Times, the washington post, the wall street journal and i go to the blogs. That way i know every story that is going and im fairly confident of the factual basis. Not the spin but the factualms basis of the story being presented do you watch Television News . Not much. I watch ms and nbc because i work for nbc so im trying it breitbart, michelle, im watching them all the time, and theyre all very good but i try chris todd meet the press daily and i have other people on other networks. John dickerson is a terrific journalist and the transition on sunday television to chalk, John Dickerson has been very healthy for the country. Alists a there find journalist working on a sunday morning. Was Election Night like . It was unusual for me. I believe that i was going on at 10 00 p. M. That night to do a 6 00 a. M. Show the next morning. The earthquake began to be felt around 10 00 p. M. I split my iphone over to a friend next to me and the upshot at the New York Times with donald trump moved to the 75 me favorite and james knew that meant the end. From that moment on i tried to stay out of it. Its a tough thing to lose anin election you think youre going to win. Its a very hard thing when its your friend. I tried not to be fist pumping some members of the crew were republicans but i was as stunned as anyone else. He bit if there was a confession protocol for media as well there is for the nfl, wed still be in that. That was the biggest shock of my political life. 1995 was a political shot. The 14 was a shock. This was an 8. 0 mac amy barnesmp was written a new book called shattered about the Hillary Clinton campaign will be on the washington journal on sunday a. M. And you can watch that on cspan. This is tv on cspan two and were talking with author hugh hewitt. Up next is john in hoboken. Go ahead john. Caller i wanted to touch base with the republican failure to read peele obamacare. Theyre missing an opportunity and i want to i keep seeingee the total repeal without any replacement or no exchange at all but a while back thee president gerald ford proposed a National Access policy in which the government takes the back end of the most severe portion of healthcare coverage and has a free market for people but takes away the extreme costs for the Insurance Companies thereby allowing them to adversely coverage the lower rates. I dont know why they dont explore that. Ea i thought it was a good idea then and i think its a good idea now speak to whatever they had in the belt didnt work. They had to come back with the amendment which as i understand establishes high risk people and offers the right to reduce the mandatory minimum benefits and allows underwriting to help. This is not a good idea. This guarantees issuance with a fiveone, sevenone, nineone. I would take obamacare with leading people to the age of six no exclusion on preexisting conditions and as much portability as you can and combine it with other stuff and move port. I like the bill as it was written. Primarily because it blocked it it would be the first evolution of a major Settlement Program to the states since the new deal. Its a unique opportunity the Freedom Caucus swung and missed on. It was a giant mistake. Getting an Entitlement Program down to the states where they can manage it just like i mentioned to peter, i left california for virginia but 18 years prior to this i served on an Orange County board that did zero to five Children Healthcare we spent the cigarette tax money on it. Co he knew what to do better to do with the money than washington or dc knew what to do. It would be a hugely importantou back to taking care of people with their basic advanced healthcare needs and the sooner we can revisit that the better it will be off. We cant have over having because were in a death spiral right now. Obamacare they say that its a falsehood and their opinion is not rooted in the facts. Obamacare has been has been in the death spiral since it said if you liked your plan you can keep it and if you like your doctor you can keep it. E it has not delivered the one bill in billings montana. Caller the question i have for you has to do with the public and economic policies. Since the Reagan Administration theyve given massive cat tax cuts to the rich. At any point in the future will republicans ever do anything for the middle class . Guest theyve done a lot for the middle class. If you look at gross the mystic product from the time president reagan until today under the tax reform he pushed through in 1986 , its been monumentally successful reaganomics has driven a cycle of growth in the United States which is far exceeded anyones expectations. Where he cut from one argue between 86 and 39 and a half, thats a marginal increase that obama and clinton got through. R the lower rates assist the middleclass extremely well. In fact, if you look at who pays taxes in United States on the income tax disproportionally wildly so, those who make the most money in the top 1 of america pay that disproportionate amount of income tax. If you want to move forward in an equitable fashion towards a revamp, overhaul, will have to move to a sales tax, tax tax, ii dont know the border adjustment tax to talk talk about it but a much more broadly based tax system. I disagree with your premise. Generally reaganomics has worked spectacularly well be one where are all in you on these taxes . Guest is ill go with them as long as they leave the homeowners tax in place. Thats the great trader to be able to buy and afford a home. My friends in states where housing doesnt cost as much as some states such as illinois or new york or california, stop at the idea that it matters to people but in fact, the vast majority of people who used that Interest Deduction are middleclass. Its a middleclass Interest Income Tax Deduction and we ought not to take it away from them. It will be disastrous. Rick santorum is the most eloquent on this. President trump will realize that if you remove the Home Mortgage interest induction your crushing homebuilding. Home building creates for jobs for every job in the construction of house. Republicans are not in the service of. [inaudible] host frank is in des moines iowa. Hi frank. Caller hi you. Explain to me unbearably when a country builds a wall, history teaches us that they do so to keep their people in, not keep them out. If this is the case, if not, this is mexicos national foreignpolicy against the us, why is it in their interest to build the wall. Guest im not sure what history shows but the sylvian union had east germany construct the wall to keep them from playing into the west and it was successful in doing so. It was backed up with bullets. I saw Governor Brown on meet the press say he looks at the wall and thanks its intended to keep americans in and i would submit to you thats preposterous. Americans know its preposterous its about 40 security in an era with extraordinary dangers, drug cartels from terrorism and an era where the visible expression of the invisible commitment to sovereignty has already had the impact of porting to the Los Angeles Times the march of reducing non permitted border crossings by 40 . Its already wildly successful if you change the attitude of the government towards people entering the company illegal. If you overstay their visas, you are cross the border illegally and in this era the reason israel built a wall, the reason saudi arabia is building a wall, three to why hungary is building fencing is because the uninhibited movement of people is too dangerous for the residents of this country into which they are going. We need border security. Host hugh hewitt is our guest. 202 is the area code 7488200 and if you live in the east and central time zone, 7488820 for those in the mountains and pacific time zones if you like to call in. Make a comment, ask a question et cetera. Hugh hewitt is there anyone who was his refuses to come on your radio show. Guest sometimes i have trouble with elected democrats. David axelrod has become a regular guest in something of a friend. It demonstrated that the democrats are better served by poking their spots onat conservative media whether its treated with civility. Senator murphy of connecticut who is a rising income or has been on my radio show i hope senator harris will be on soon. Tim ryan who challenged nancy pelosi for the leadership, we went to the same high school and weve been friends for 20 years. We spark it up. My closest friends in the world are democrats. On the left, i dont have much trouble getting liberals or leftwingers to go on the radio show. Its a conversation like this. Its a chat. Host Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, did you invite them during the primaries was mark. Guest Bernie Sanders claim close because he knows what he believes and hell say it repeatedly but i think his advisor said theres no upside and you might send the rest wrong message to your base if youre talking to the conservative side. Secretary clinton, you mentioned amy would be on the washington journal and thats a amazing book shattered is one of most eyeopening books i read in a long time. Gm they were on my show last week for most of the in and out ofst three segments because its a riveting look inside the most dysfunctional campaign in modern political history which was the clinton campaign. Part of that dysfunction was they got a series of false positives. Secretary clinton won everye ded debate and some people believe that trump won the debates but i wasnt in each of them. I dont thank you want a single debate. Nv they got a false positive at the Democratic National convention because they had a better. R. Fali [inaudible] they became more and more cautious as they went along and this book shattered is how that caution can actually disable a president ial campaign from goind out and asking people to vote for you and giving them a reason to do so on election day which they did not do so in wisconsin and michigan and pennsylvaniaa and iowa and ohio. Ohio went from a twopoint obama win in 2012 to 89point trump when in 2016. Thats my home state. Its astonishing to have that much of a point in four years. Do you enjoy book tours . Guest i dont do them very much. Book tours are intensive, you dont know where you are ande ive got to be in a radio city every morning at 6 00 a. M. Est. If im on a book tour in california, i got a b in the studio at 3 00 a. M. Which means getting up at 2 00 a. M. Like youre doing so book tours are profoundly difficult for radio talkshow host who know that the most important thing is to do it the same thing day in and day out instead of relying on being there. Its tough to get off the air for a week so just keep doing it book, everything. Host how is your butt doing press mark. Guest well enough. Were bringing it out in paperback for the fall. Im going to put trump in the subtitle. Its a pro trumpet book. To do its what the Republican Party has to do with President Trump to make it work for both sides and they both have to get something out of the deal. Host bill is coming in from illinois. Caller afternoon. Chicago ar hugh hewitt, we met with you in the chicago area at several conservative gatherings and i like a lot of your ideas but ie disagree with your times. I listen as were taking over bill bennetts radio spot on the east coast there. Id like to ask you when did news, when did the 24 hour news cycle cause news to become entertainment rather than information . N . I got to the point where i watch more cspan than i do any of the cable news because im sick of the hype, sick of the editorializing. Its very very little information. More opinion. G can you comment on that press mark. Guest very perceptive. St the the velocity of news has increased by four or 500 in the last five years. When i began in the radio talk business in 1989 on in los angeles we did one subject an hour. Youd walk around collecting topics and youd carry clippings with you. Now what will do is a three or four segments, topics. Segment. We have 12 segments over three hours and my desire and it is the desire of our Research Shows our audience wants to know what is happening at any moment in the world and this is a post 911 thing. People avoid all the day longg that asserting is occurring. There will be action in france and will she win. Ainment stuf the amount and volume of a connected world is really whats going on. As to the entertainment stuff, the lower third, the breaking news, the continual hyping of immediacy is only half true but is the highest rating that Television Cable news has ever had. Whats going on right now is the political junkies watch everything, all the time. I want them to watch msnbc and i want them to watch cspan of course but there watching allk the time. You cant really dial it back for fear that they may flip it over to see if someone else has a breaking news schedule. Its endemic in the industry, the implication of the extremess that go on because of twitter and right now i can guarantee you, i dont take my twitter feed for an hour after i get off the television because they took out stuff and then i use verify teeth. It never stops. t it never stops. Thats the world we live in and im not can change it in your not to change it. Host are there conservatives in hollywood and does it matter if they are not. Guest yes, there are. Nds ofe i am myself in Orange County and when i lived in california before i moved back to virginia. So i wouldnt go to many sons of ava issues but there are lot of centerright Entertainment Industries individuals, most of them are centerright on Foreign Policy and National Security issues. They are not on lifestyle issues youre not going to find a lot of traditional marriage advocates in hollywood but youll find a lot of people who will go out and perform for the troops, Great American heroes. Hell be honored as such any serve the medal of freedom and every accolade that comes his way, john and drazen is another one. Theres a lot of centerright people in the entertainment history behind the cameras was in front of it. I traveled the country with jon voight was a very vocal proponent and fan of President Trump. They exist but they do worry justifiably that like with College Campuses to be too vocal , too early in your careerwi will close off venues. Im paid to be conservative. So thats what i do. I dont have to worry about that but if i was a young actor in hollywood it would be my advice as a young academic on a college campus, get your tenure or get your reputation before you get your opinions. You will be punished. Host what you think about and coulter and uc Berkeley Chris mark. Guest berkeley should be ashamed of itself. Orst was the very worst was middleberry. Charles murray is an American Intellectual of the first rank t and he 75 years old, his book has nothing to do with race, it has to do with the decline of the middle class and he kept race out of it specifically but he was set upon almost knocked to the ground, his liberal escort i dont know what happened in campuses in americal they cant have a healthy debate its never happened to me, thank goodness. I do believe that universities are going to become very dull boring places in places Like Hillsdale College are going to get all of the vibrant intellects because left and right or some of the smaller liberal arts colleges that embrace genuine intellectual diversity. They will prosper in the years ahead, not middleberry will pay a price and i would not send my kid to berkeley. Se i just wouldnt. Rk if you cant have a conversation why go there smart. Host joe in new york city. Caller good afternoon, gentlemen. Welcome to usc. Im a proud alumnus of the annenberg school. Id like to ask your re recollections of ambassador annenberg and also do you think annenberg would support donald trump. Guest i had one greatsador s conversation with ambassador in a burglar i asked him for 10 million for the Nixon Library i was 33 at the time he said no, young man im not going to. Ill give you a building is worth 7 million. H he was helping us raise money for the Nixon Library. He was a wonderful gentleman and i dont propose to know what other people would think. He was a loyal republican, extremely public spirited and he would approve of a great deal of sitdown urine and a big person, hed appreciate Donald Trumps candor. Walter annenberg believed in transparency. I like to tease usc a lot. Im glad that youre in annenberg red and that his name is on this building. Host mike is in sun city california. Caller first of all, i like to mention you have to be a blind man not to understand the media source between the left. D [inaudible] how particular do you recommend the conservative cause surmounts the reality smart secondly, on the issue of race i know how openly will these liberals answer im curious how do you have an open discussion about race without discussing Political Correctness is mark. Guest let me take them in the order you propose them. Ir cnn, i was not an employee of cnn. I worked for the salem media company. I was a participant in for cnn debates. I was in the room when jeff zuger and jake capper and my white house but right then and eric the producer and they are extremely professional, very hardworking and they went over time to be objective and they took my point of view into account and i asked the questions i wanted to ask whether it was a triad or taxes or religious liberty in the Supreme Court and they were very very fair. Most of Mainstream Media works hard to be very, very fair. I also believe it to be the case that if you somehow were able to conduct xray vision of thee votes of Mainstream Media, 95 would have voted for Hillary Clinton in the last election. News is where you look, dan rather famously said. Inking and if 95 are democratically voting they will be democrat thinking and they will not look to find out what the story is and what animates a centerright conservative voter. They suffer not from a lack of work thats the hardest working people i know. I disagree with trump when he declared them to be an enemy of the state. Ey it was wrong for him to do so. I will criticize him about that. They are biased. Th not collectively, not individually. I dont know anyone who gives a tougher in her youth and chuck todd and jake capper and John Dickerson but you just have to look at the media as a whole and realize its centerleft. What we do about that . One thing that cnn has added conservative. Thats good. Thats important. Try to find people who are objective, for down the middle, completely neutral and surround them with opinion journalists on both sides. That the best way to go. As to the issue of race in america, it is possible to talk about it without Political Correctness, interfering with the conversation. I did so today with eric and i can do so with michael tyson, i can on a number of occasions with any number of africanamericans. Its possible to do so provided you begin from a position of stability and, im a christians i believe in equal dignity of every individual out there and you have to approach it that way ive a great number of friends in the africanamerican church in irvine california, i try to check in with my friends in the community especially my democratic africanamerican friends to find out what im missing because theres a lot that anglo people can miss especially if theyre living in their bubbles. Host what you think of the term fake news. Guest im going to the night ninth circuit judicial on the big news. Fake news on my view is any media on any platform purveyor that knows to be objectively false in his or her mind at the time that they communicated. So, russian news is fake news, often. Players know they are telling a lie. If someone knows they are telling a lie, thats fake news. Biased news is completely different. I know almost everyone of the ad page of the New York Times and they dont write things that they believe to be objectively false. They write things that they believe im sure plenty fact thought i was falsely saying that obamacare was in a death spiral. It im not. It is an adept file. Its not objectively false for me to say that. Its my opinion based on factsae and statistics. Fake news would someone if i came on and said i was trying to communicate to that people we have to cap that term to limit it to propaganda outlets like russian tv. Host next call is it mary ann of strongsville, ohio. Caller yes,. Im a longtime fan of yours. I really like these ideas in your book. To me, they go handinhand with another book by a good friend of yours, i believe, michael medevac, his book about america somehow being blessed by the gods and your love of america does come through. Its a cautious optimism for, trumps agenda and i agree with you. There are things that he is going to be faced with that could spell the end. I hope people like you keep writing these good books hes learning but i truly believe his goal is to unite us asamericans lets get over all these distinguished based on whatever. And also, that he will bring us prosperity and as you have said, that will raise up the rest of the world and i know you love cleveland and i just love you. Thank you so much. Guest go cavaliers. Host hes been trying to work that in all our. Guest they will be the wizards three in a row. President trump wants a human america to be great as did president obama. They just had different visions people continue to call out President Trump when he makes mistakes, as i have done and to applaud him when he has done something great like judge neil gorsuch. He is the most qualified judge to be on the Supreme Court and i was told to me by a finalist k competed with him for that ansition. He acknowledged that he was the best choice. If Justice Kennedy steps down or another just to step down andgo appoint another neil gorsuch, the champagne corks are out. He has 20 Circuit Court vacancies to fill. Hes very slow. One of my country critiques is that trump is the slowest outofthebox in terms of appointments. We need ahead of the army corps of engineers, copyrights person, President Trump is moving awfully slow. What im showing here is you have to be willing to critique him is to be taken seriously when you praise him. Look for people who do both, not just people who do one exclusively or the other. Host what the significance of a hundred days . Guest fdr did so much so fast. In march, we used two eggnog your president s in march. Wa between fdr and hoover there is a period of a bank panic and he came in with a huge majority and they passed a bunch of they threw everything against the wall. It turns out that bill clinton passed 22 laws in his first 100 days. Had a productive time but no one members what they were. What matters more to me is for such an these cra statutes are enormously important. Fdr is are you will that donald trump will have the most significant 100 days of any president since fdr. Reagan did get a tax cut until after the assassination. Which was after a hundred days. By showing the value of intelligence and temperament with a simple majority, thats so huge for the country, people will be writing about that forever. Host he treats and,ri reaganomics wasnt as good as hugh hewitt claims. Reagan just about tripled the dead from 994 billion to 2. 948 trillion years. Guest that is 20 trillion. President obama doubled the National Debt from about 10 trillion to 20 trillion. Even i dont know the facts and ill take him at his word and hes a wellmeaning person but to take the debt from 900 billion to 2. 1 trillion or whatever he said is big and were doing that every year now. Because of president obama economics. It was necessary to arrest the decline of jimmy carter set in motion and while is necessary to jumpstart the economy to bring down tax and it did lead to a higher deficit, we are also fighting and beating the soviet union with the defense buildup which was necessary and we deployed the cruise, we put the summary to see and Ronald Reagan spent the money well and there was a deficit, there was a debt but nothing like that happeneded in the last eight years. Bill bennett argues that it was a matter of scale. Ronald reagan left behind a debt of 2 trillion, president obama left a 20 trilliondollar debt. He had 10 trillion more that he took in as a debt. Its an astonishing amount of debt. We have to tackle entitlements which is white President Trump is right. Host a few minutes left. Mark from seattle. Caller yes, thank you very much. Thank you for writing the fourth way. I consider myself a progressive democrat here in seattle and i do appreciate your book. I was wondering if you could tell me, in your experience, dealing with friends for democrats is it unfortunately the emphasis of the democrats, like myself, who look to things more in a commentary and way then perhaps the average republican who looks also at the issues around being individual. Is it our blind spot that democrats of seeing things in defined in people using the like does that make it harder for us to come halfway with republicans in solving problems last thing ill say, it was very disappointing for me to understand that on facebook about three times as Many Democrats tended to unfriend acquaintances of theirs over the issue of the election then republicans. Is that an indication also of maybe an intolerance unfortunately on our part thanks very much. Guest thats perceptive but i think it works both ways. Theres a lot of intolerant republicans and a lot of intolerant democrats. It helps to have grown up in ohio and tom brokaw made this argument before that if youre from the midwest you ten not to be is polarized on politics and then if youre from a coastal elites. Seattle washington is pretty liberal, los angeles liberal, new york city is very liberal, youre going to hear an echo chamber of rising grievances. Also occurs in deep red texas, occurs in deep red precincts in other parts of the country and its not healthy. I just dont try to attribute a generalization. I cant tell anyones giving pattern to charity based on whether or not they have an rog name. Statistically republicans write more text to private charitiesbu the democrats but i dont know the individuals generosity or benevolence by virtue of general patterns. I dont think we can attribute to that. Its useful not to defriendsi anyone over politics. C life is way too short. Host whats your analysis of the congressional race down in georgia, democrat 140 . We have a couple more. Guest karen handel, said she would win easily. Theyre doi john had a chance. I love when democrats tell us. What theyre doing. Normally you want to sneak attack. Two weeks out they began to telb republicans were going to win with john. I had never heard his name and i didnt know there was trouble. Im on the air in atlanta from 6 00 a. M. To 9 00 a. M. And i began talking about who you vote for but if you dont get up and vote youll lose the seat. Me so he won the preliminary. If they want to telegraph their punches every time thats fine by me but that seat will be held by karen handel in another month for this reason, peter, in kansas they talked about how she did so much better the democrats did so much better than the republicans had done and that it was a source of great joy for them. In fact, 80000 democrats voted in kansas in november of this year only 55000 democrats showed up in the special election. There is a palpable decline of passion among democrats. I was in washington for the womens heart. St it was a big deal. 2 million people. It was a huge deal. The fall off of the last weekend was a hundred 25000 people was palpable and they had the science much today. G theyve got to get over this icing of activism or theyre going to run their people out. Its a long time till 2018. They need to lay back, raise the money, recruit some good candidates and not get everyone spun up and disappointed along the way. Pr host have you had any luck getting Top Administration officials or President Trump on your program . Guest were waiting on President Trump. P. Weve had secretary carson, administrator pruitt, another cabinet secretary that im forgetting, sean spicer, theyre starting to show up now that they know what their media routine is and im hoping President Trump will be back on soon. Weve had 15 great conversations over the course of the last year and a half. I can sometimes be kryptonite to him. Hes the best interview in america still. People listen to him because you never quite know what youre going to get. Host hugh hewitt has been our guest. Heres his most recent book the Little Red Book as he calls it. A the fourth way the new paperback will be called. Guest hugh hewitt and the Little Red Book. Host thank you as always. We tape hundreds of author programs throughout the country all year long. Heres a look at some of the events will be covering this week. On tuesday at the Kansas City Public Library david grant, staff writer for the new yorker will recall the murders of members of the hostage Indian Nation and oklahoma in the 1920 s. Also that evening will be the u. S. Navy memorial in washington dc to hear Dartmouth College president emeritus james wright shares the experiences of american soldiers during the vietnam war. And at mit press bookstore in cambridge massachusetts Brown University professor linguistic and psychological sciences, will discuss how knowledge is framed by perception. When they were at the new york Public Library where university of pittsburgh history professor will examine the war crimes created during the revolution a war. We joined in conversation by louis lapin. On thursday were back at the Nations Capital where Economic Policy institute Richard Rothstein will argue the local, state and federal local legislation has been responsible for the segregated cities. Discusses book with National Book award winning. Thats a look at some of the events theyll be covering this week. Many of these events are open to the public. Look for them to air in the near future on book tv on cspan two. The other contribution i think where i hope the book has is a discussion on the domestic cadaver rate. This is the trafficking of dead bodies. Ive traced medical school records, and enemy professors that were involved in this trafficking. They wrote letters back and forth to one another looking for the dead bodies of enslaved people were exhuming them from grace. One of the pivotal quotes that i have is a quote from one medical doctor to the other saying tell me how much cost for a dead stiff. One that you cant do tell me the cost of a dead stiff one that will cut up bath and doesnt smell Strong Enough to be nosed a mile off. I traced this traffic and this trade in the bodies. I look at the way even after death, enslaved people are commodified. Just to final pony closing sentence quotes. That help me pursue this book and that is quote from elizabeth correctly some of you may know was the enslaved seamstress to Martha Jefferson and she says here when she talks about at the grave, at least we shall be permitted to lay our burdens down that a new world, a world of brightness, may open to us. The light that is denied is here should grow into a flood of beyond the dark mysterious shadows of death. I thought that was a powerful way to think about how enslaved people think about their afterlife. Finally, i share this when i was here a few weeks ago a slave name mingo wrote a poem on a cell wall after they had been separated and he says to her dear wife, they cannot sell the road of love that in my bosom glows. Remember, as your tears may start they cannot sell my immortal part. Thank you. [applause] you can watch this and other programs online at the tv. Org. [inaudible conversations] welcome everyone. Hello. Was up there with lee chris mark my name is patty. I just asked me how long weve known each other. Lee just celebrated her tenth anniversary

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