The obstetricians we need a much valued unit. Yes, i cant say i believe every effort is being made to fill vacant General Hospital and understand those mothers who are having a midwife plans and we are still able to go to the General Hospital but they do have to go to the jeanbart of hospital in oxford. Services are important to people and i believe that trust is actively looking for what matters is a safe maternity service. Angela eagle. I think many people across the house will be reassured that the government accepted the amendment to the opposition motion being debated later this afternoon, which guarantees they will properly screwed as the plan for the been the European Union before article l of them felt. I have to say to the right honorable lady that the idea part of it somehow wasnt going to be about to discuss, debate, question [shouting] was frankly completely wrong. That may give some examples. The secretary of state has said he made two statements in this house. A new select committee has been set up, which crucially includes representatives from all parts of the United Kingdom and only just over a week ago i announced a great repeal bill in the next session of parliament for a writ deal to the European Union. Element will have every opportunity to debate this issue. Thank you, mr. Speaker. Every year in the u. K. , 3. 5000 babies are stillborn and i commend the government for setting the target of a 20 reduction by the end of the president than 50 reduction by 2030. For the Prime Minister agree with me that we must do all they can to provide the best quality to those parents who said they lose a baby . I say to my honorable friend that hes absolutely right. Im pleased to say the Health Secretary will be attending the reception which will be held in parliament immediately after today and i would encourage other members to attend as well. Honorable friend is absolutely right that the loss of the baby must be absolutely devastating and im aware there are people sitting in this chamber who have been through that tragedy in their life. What is absolutely essential is that the best possible care can be given to parents that had very, very vulnerable and tragic moment in their life and that is why weve been putting money to introduce broodmare rooms of 40 hospitals and investing more in the facilities as well for the import part. The care and counsel whos lost a baby and i think we all accept that. Thank you, mr. Speaker. On the second of july, the home office is giving details of 178 children who are still stuck in the refugee camp that had a legal right here in the u. K. With the families to keep them safe and protected. Given the delays enact them, what responsibility is the Prime Minister think this government has too be 18 of those children who have now gone missing. The government has been working with the french government to those who are in the camps. They speed up the process of dealing with the clintons that unaccompanied children in the camp and we have seen the process faster, quicker and more children coming as a result of that alongside all the other work we are doing in relation to refugee and unaccompanied minors. Crucially has filed, working to ensure that we do with the traffickers and the smugglers who are often in those camps in who we need to make sure to have access to children for the future. We speak about the process and more children come here as a result of that. Thank you, mr. Speaker. To virus breastcancer day. I would address the Prime Minister to join the initiatives men and women well good on the dirt at the edge is currently collect data in this area. Would you agree with me that better Data Collection can affirm that the u. S. Resources across a piece of utter outcomes for all patients. Are entirely except upon the honorable friend makes a better information gives you a greater opportunity to address these issues. Can i also join with her and commending and wishing well all of those so she says men and women who have suffered from Breast Cancer and who have come through that. There are others in this house in a position that so many people across the country and its important we do get the right care to ensure they can come through and see a bright future. Thank you, mr. Speaker. Last night and this has a huge number of and he is presented petitions might have been down this country. Will the Prime Minister committed to overturning the arrangements and provide justice in transitional arrangements . The honorable that you should know mother started transitional arrangements in place. We did make changes. We committed a billion pounds to lessen the impact of the changes for this effect did so nobody would see a change by more than 18 months. Women will see increases of no more than 12 months compared to the previous timetable. They inform people and as we look forward, we are then located the new pension arrangements being put in place but the longstanding issue and winners will see better arrangements because of the changes the government has brought in. I gather the Prime Minister gave chancellor merkel a gift of the coasttocoast book outlining the fabulous work when intermec is issuing ca. Its a Prime Minister where the coasttocoast is not an official national trail in which he meet to discuss my campaign to get this National Treasure is to serve national status. I think my honorable friend as he knows i enjoy the fantastic kingdom. I have to say he probably knows the decision about is one more appropriately and hes done more on this point. I will come to the honorable lady in the honorable gentleman as well. Mr. Speaker wielded the british house of commons as members move on to other business. Youve been watching Prime Ministers question time live at 7 00 a. M. Eastern Prime Ministers session. You can see this week succession again sunday nights at nine eastern and pacific. This afternoon a conversation on policing at the Cato Institute to Cato Institute to connect these the Body Cameras Police militarization of social media surveillance flight noon eastern. For the next two hours a chance to engage and discuss issues that two leading thirdparty candidates. Criteria as cspan quite thele. Ball. Those candidates whose names appear on the ballot could technically winning the necessary 270 electoral votes to win the presidency. The first hour conversation with gary johnson and our second hour jill stein who is the Green Party Nominee but we begin withg governor john in and take uson back to may of this year as he accepted his partys nomination. Ive always said it is your v hard work. It is every one of your work over the year that has gotten us to this point and i recognize that. At, and and that will work as hard as i can to represent everybody in this room. [applause] but, for those for those that want supportive, and want to reiterate a couple of things. I tell the truth. I am not a liar. I make plenty of mistakes. But what i say here at this convention is what i say everywhere, wherever i go and i believe it is a really libertarian message wherever i go. [applause] right now leaving this convention, millions of people are going to be trying to understand what it is to be ago libertarian and it is going to be my voice describing back to the best of my ability. And i realize i realize the confidence you put in me to be that spokesperson and im very,t very grateful if not. Gary johnson the libertarian nominee joined us from santa fe, new mexico. Thank you for being with us. Ll see them, we are on the ballot in all 50 states and the district of columbia. We are the only third party that can lay claim to that. Host is your voice be so, th heard . Guest i think so. To the extent that it would have been heard if i wouldve been in the first two president ialal debates, no. But we knew that this was anha uphill battle in that continuous. 50 of americans that are goinge to register. 28 democrats, 26 republicans. I happen to think its a libertarian for his command noww bleeding among dependents. You describe yourself as a social liberal, fiscal conservative and isolationist. What does that mean . Never use the term u isolationist. I dont know where youre a big enough for a. How about a step date when it comes to our foreign policy. Wh the fact when we involve ourselves in regime change and i cant think of a single example where that has worked out better and not worse. It involves herself diplomatically and we should oue provide ourselves with the national defense. They are caught in a civil war crossfire and asking them to accomplish things that are defined at the very beginning. If i may use an example, afghanistan is a great example i that we were attacked. We attacked back. I supported afghanistan. Al qaeda, we got in there to destroy al qaeda. We destroyed them after seven to. We should have left afghanistan after seven months. Here we are 15 years later. I think we should get out of afghanistan. Iraq on the other hand asteroid left office in 2003, i said we have the military surveillance capability to see iraq rollout any weapons of mass destruction and if we do that we can act accordingly. Y. If we go into iraq, we are going to find ourselves in a civil war to which there will be no one. Regime change, isolationist. Absolutely not. Noninterventionist is a big difference between isolationist. Free trade is how we are going to help the world out. Diplomacy. The only solution to syria is joining hands with russia to deal with that diplomatically. They deal with china diplomatically and north korea. A livestock about syria. Youve also been critical of Hillary Clinton saying she bears at least some of the responsibility for the thousands of civilian deaths in syria. How so . I read the Free Syrian Army that they would get the islamists are the arabs were going to end up in the handsthat basis. In fact, they have. The fact that we are now back in isis and rock of and the turkish allies after we invaded iraq can invaded iraq and arguably because our invasion of iraq as saddams henchmen that led to that area and may have participated in the organization of what i can say two years ago we didnt even know the term basis. So we put ourselves in a situation where we are back in the Free Syrian Army that the islamists and youve got a lot of civilians. This is a horrible situation. They are wreaking horrible tragedies, but what we did crime in the Free Syrian Army and man did not in the hands of the islamists. Has that made the situation better . No comments made its first good those listening on cspan radio from here at the numbers if youre a supporter of the johnson ticket. Rs 2027 or 88920. If youre a supporter of adequate, 202 7488921. Donald Trump Supporters call 202 7488922. You can join us on twitter as he sped. Let me ask you about your two moments on msnbc. You were asked about a lot though and he said what is to let go and you responded and went Chris Matthews asking about a foreign leader. He referred to it as another aleppo moment. Did that hurts you in the eyes of the public . Well, i am being made to look like somebody who doesnt understand what these situations are. You know, whether or not hackers are not. If we are going to cage the next president of the United States on their ability to dot the i. s and cross the t. s on foreign leaders and geographic locations, we are going to continue to have the same we would have for basically my lifetime which is supporting regime change shoe makes these decisions i have no idea of, that as commanderinchief i tell you what. I want to know we will honor all treaties and obligations, but untangle in these promises that have been made for someone like myself to be a subdued this and get ourselves a tangled. It is important to point out to my to military personnel, im their next next choice to be commanderinchief. Id like to think its based on what i am saying and that is what im saying right now. Have you given any thought to the human serving your cabinet, most notably secretary of statea for defense secretary. Guest i was really well served as governor in mexico and i would like to point out to everybody as a twoterm governor of new mexico. Republican served in heavilyly democrat state. Never been involved in politics before. My running mate, former twoterm republican governor in massachusetts, a state that is for the one democrat. S when i took office, i said there were no predisposed jobs, meaning we didnt make any promises for a new job. Come apply. We are going to hire the best and the brightest. As i was really surprised by the quality of people, but depth in the quality of people that apply for jobs in state government. I would guess the same phenomenon will exist as president of united stays filleted maladies cabinet positions. Is very passed secretary of state that would be your modelta or the person . You know, mike leavitt to served as a former secretary of health and human services. I knew him as governor and an incredibly capable guy. Looking at someone like that to possess those skills as hacretary of state. Steve, i have really been disillusioned having never beens involved in politics before coming into office and actually getting to meet people that ive held off on pedestals, believing they were all about advancing Public Policy for the public good. I came to find out that they were more concerned with getting reelected. They were more concerned with poles the madison to say i didnt need a lot of really good people. I have to say i am skip ducal about prior officeholders, people that have served. I dont think we get the whole story. Today with the internet, we are more informed. We dont have to go through filters anymore. Exciting times to be living in. I dont think we could be livinx in anymore exciting times inuplo today. Have a couple questions from the first two president ial debates. A chance also for the cspan audience to engage with you and intercept an hour, dr. Jill stein. Good evening. Good evening. Am i on . Nsonw i am a johnson supporter and ive really been one of your most vocal supporters did i comment on a lot of your posts. Facebook pose and i really admired your honesty. I quote benjamin franklin. In honesty is the best policy. I am a disgruntled democrat recovering republican. I ive been a democrat and iring m really cant bring myself to support the two major party nominees. Its really a shame because i really wanted to support a major party. Ive really looked into you and may read a lot of what you say. I guess i really hope you can be a game changer in this election. Host thanks for the call. We will get a response. Guest i think the Libertarian Party right now is representing 60 of americans than the 60 of americans dontc briefly described as being fiscally conservative, socially inclusive, skeptical of our wars and also free trade. Free trade is devoid of crony capitalism. Crony capitalism by definition is in government picks winners and losers in that political. The Libertarian Party is representing the opposite of that. Opportunity for all. The four legs of the store right now represents 60 of the American Voters than i do think republican donald trump,t democrat Hillary Clinton are out on the fringe is ms reflect a type of that 60 of americans view that negatively, theres aa reason they are out on the fringes. On twitter be sure to follow less at cspan. Hank has this tweet or you. How will Kerry Johnson worked with Congress Effect to sleep being a thirdparty candidate . He adds i hate that label. You know, does anybody think if trump or clinton is elected that the polarization in congress is going to get any better . Ld i think its going to get worse. Each side has one agenda and that is to kill the other side. The third scenario, big highway down the middle. Gary johnson, bill wells. Mo we will hire democrats and republicans, libertarians to be a nonpartisan administration. Call up both sides to come to the table to do with issues the country is facing. I think that there is an area has the opportunity of working. The first two dont have any chance was the letter. Host john from north carolina. Supporter of donald trump. What do you think . Caller good evening. Yes, i am a supporter of donald trump because of the positions that he has taken on things that are very vital to our future. I am very can learn about the immigration or lack of work to make our immigration laws for. I think he would work to improve that. We are very concerned about the fact that our military has been cut way back under the currentnt administration and there have been no change there while our adversaries are building up their military forces. , i dont like the way he says things sometimes. But i do believe that his a policies are better. Host governor johnson, what would you say to john . Guest i think we should be embracing immigration. As a border state governor alitalia workers from mexico are the cream of the crop and they are not taking jobs that u. S. Citizens want. The main reason for 11 million documented workers is the fact that government stats quotas and you cant get a work visa to get across the border and said they are coming across the border to take jobs the u. S. Citizens dont want to something you and i would do if that is what they had to do with our families. We should make it as easy as possible for someone who wants to come into the country andbl were to get a work visa. It shouldnt have a background check and Social Security card but applicable taxes get paid. Dont build a wall across the border. In new mexico where the population is 50 hispanic, how is the crackdown of 11 million undocumented workers going to work in new mexico . Is it going to be a door to door knock on the door that the papers and if you dont have your papers, what will happens, then . Hes completely out of touch when he talks about immigration. With regard to the military, yook, i share your same concerns. Ho we should have an Invincible National defense. When we involve ourselves as the worlds policeman, i think we diminish our rule here we are not at the fact day. It costs a lot of money with no clear object does at the end of any of this and the relatives that to be less safe. Lets concentrate on making our country safe on defending our f country. Thats a clear defined goals for the military. Host that they pick up a map point to one of the questions from the participants at a town hall meeting in st. Louis, missouri was from a Muslim American they could appoint 3. 3 million in the u. S. And asking the question, how will you help people like me deal with the the consequenconsequen ces of being labeled as a threat to theon country after the election is over . Starts with a commanderinchief that is going to be talking about these issues, in particular, in the way that i am talking about it. Immigration is a great thing. This is not a country that should be discriminating against any group whatsoever. When we do that, it has bad should hee, and we working to overcome that discrimination, and as president , i will work to overcome that discrimination. Steve you probably saw the numbers from the latest nbc news wall street journal all that has Hillary Clinton with believe. This is a survey among likely voters. Ou are now at 9 according to the commission on president ial debates, you need to be at 15 percent to participate. There is one more debate. You since any movement that will anything than cap. Maybe with this showing here on cspan, thank you very much, steve, this might push it over the top, but its a hard road to push if youre not in the president ial debates. I take great solace, i take great pride in leading among young people right now. When leading, im tied with Hillary Clinton but coming from nowhere to be tied among young people i think come election day, that could actually swing carrying young people. Im leading among independents. The largest political identified allegiance right now in this country. And like i said earlier, leading among active military personnel, which although is not a very big demographic, who but they should know what is going on and what direction this country should take militarily. Host randall has this tweet. Question with regard to the u. S. Supreme court. Governor johnson, what are your top considerations for a Supreme Court judge, or in this case justice . Guest we actually had a lisy today we released but at the top of that list is Jonathan Turley from George Washington university. M tom campbell, the who is the dean at Chapman University of the constitutional, constitutional law, looking atat the constitution from the standpoint of original intent. Host go to new city, new york, a supporter of Hillary Clinton. Thanks for joining us tonight. Caller yes, hello . Host good evening. Caller good evening. I am basically an independent. Mind but i am leaning toward Hillary Clinton. The reason you know, i am disgusting with the trump thing, he is racist. He is lying every five minutes. All these tapes, he call locker room. How about the howard stern Show National tv. What kind of bad thing is that. He wanted to date his daughter, all kind of things. Is that america we stand for . What do we tell children in the future. I mean how we can explain them with these kind of stuff, you know . I mean, disgusting things. When i feel what this man, does he know and like mr. Johnson just said, like he said that 11 Million People he want to deport. How is he going to label them . Knock doortodoor . Or he is just making a fool of the American Public . So you know, those kind of things. A president should have some graceful things and nice words. If things doesnt go his way he gets very defensive. Look at megyn kelly, he got upset. Black pastor in church, he got upset. The judge that is mexican, the son of pow, every person he has comment from those people. This is not the america we want. This is not the america stand for. They have values. Host thank you. Im going to jump in give governor johnson a chance to respond to talk about overall tone of the campaign. Thank you for your call and participation . Guest i would just disagree i would agree everything you said about donald trump. When it comes to Hillary Clinton there isnt anything that government wont be able to solve in the future when it comes to Hillary Clinton. She is going to grow government. Neither hillary nor trump want to address the entitlements, medicaid and medicare. Reform the entitlement so theyre actually around for young people. I dont think it is an option to say, lets do nothing with those programs. Actually hillary is saying wee should expand those programs. I dont think it is an option to say we should not look at reforming social so it will actually be around for young people. Im particularly disturbed with these latest revelations whichel is the hypocrisy of Hillary Clinton saying one thing and doing another. Talking to wall street privately. Telling them that look, ordinary people dont understand these issues but you and i do. Well make it through. I think one unforgivable in lifi is hp hypocrisy, saying one thing doing another. Host unfrom the town hall meeting on sunday, one of the participants saying the Affordable Care act is not affordable. What would you do to bring costs down and make coverage better . Let me add to this tweet we have from nick who is also asking about health care. He wants to know about preexisting conditions, what would you do specifically . On these two specific issues, what are your thoughts, governor johnson . Guest there needs to be reform to the Affordable Care act. There needs to be competition. Government could play a bigg role, bringing more competition to health care. More competition would be ultimately Better Health care. Advertised pricing. Advertised outcomes. Something that currently doesnt exist. Look, preexisting conditions is an issue that this country was and is facing and i think it can be taken care of. If that ends up to be a government subsidy, which currently, it is layered right now, but currently that is government subsidy at present, but, these are, that is a very realissue. Health care reform, i happen to agree with chief Justice Roberts that the Affordable Health carei act is a tax. My Health Insurance premiums have quadrupled. I went to see a doctor here about three weeks ago to get a physical because im running fou president , but until then i hadnt been to see a doctor for years. Prior to that. Look, we could bring competition to health care. We could, we could blow the lid of the supply of doctors. So much is being made that there arent enough doctors to go around. Well that could be a government subsidy when it comes to medical schools and their ability to turn out more doctors. That we should be dealing withr health care from the front end, not after, after theconseq consequences of poor diet, no exercise, after the consequences of those ingredients come down on the Health Care System and now we have to deal with diabetes. Dothe we have to deal with heart failure. Smoking you know, we have to deal with the consequence of smoking. On and on and on. Bring competition, more competition to health care. As president of the United States i will sign any legislation that i believe makei health care more affordable and increases a way to lower costs. If we opened, for example, if we opened up our ability to buy prescriptions from canada, because theyre cheaper from canada, which i would support in a nanosecond, but how long would prices remain expensive in the United States if we did that . They wouldnt remain expensive at all because that competitione from abroad, competition bringso about lower prices. Host lets go to darlene, she is supporter of thelene, a johnsonweld ticket in cincinnati, ohio. Good evening. Caller hello, governor johnson. An honor to speak with you. I was so relieved i found out three months ago we had another option besides clinton and trump. Ive been impressed with the information that i have gotten off your website especially, the fact that you cut taxes when you were governor 14 times, that you left the state with new highways, bridges, schools and hospitals. And i am a firm supporter and have been telling as many people as i can about you. I think it is a crime that the commission for president ial debates has shut you and the other candidates off from the debates. I think that is worthy of the lawsuit thats been filed against them and i hope that when that lawsuit comes to, to trial, that they will be found to have to pay a lot taxes for the fact that been masquerading as a nonprofit agency. Host thank you for the call. Guest one thing bill weld and i are going to bring when it comes to small government is certainty. He taxes are not going to go up. Were pledging to submit a balanced budget to congress in the first 100 days. Why a balanced budget . Ge well, a balanced budget is all about the future of this country. A balanced budget is for young people. The fact that im going to get my health care, im going to get my retirement but guess what, you as young people, whos to say it will be around . The Affordable Health care act, relies on Healthy People subsidizing those that are not healthy guess what . That disparaging falls on young people. It is young people were putting in harms way with our military policies. With our intervention regime change policies, that are putting young people in harms way. Tha so i think all of this is really geared toward the future. All of this, the libertarian agenda, is equality for all, you touched on the president ial Debates Commission. President ial Debates Commission made up of republicans and democrats and they just have no interest whatsoever in seeing anyone other than a democrat or a republican on stage. Amazingly, this is something that i just found out a couple of weeks ago, im actually polling higher than ross perot was polling when he was allowed into the president ial debates. Es now initially, he was polling very high. Then he dropped out of the race after he dropped out of the race, he was polling lower then i am right now. He was allowed into the president ial debates because both clinton and bush saw it as an advantage he was in those debates. Well after those debates the president ial Debates Commission set a threshold without being in the president ial debates, a real chicken and egg thing. Without being in the president ial debates you can not garner that level of support. Host were amid way point of a onehour conversation with governor gary johnson, the Libertarian Party nominee. Next hour a conversation with the Green Party Nominee and her running mate. We want to remind the audience his speeches from governor johnson, acceptance speech fromo the Libertarian Convention you can check out anytime on cspan. Org. We have welcome listeners on cspan radio. Tweet from jennifer who wants to know specifically about our Voting System. What would you do as president to reform our elections process, campaigns and Voting System . How do you answer that . I would simply like to see a majority elect the president of the United States. I understand the reasons for the Electoral College but here it is. We could conceivably have this vote go to the Electoral College. I think it is outgrown itsness. Usefulness. That would be a starter i also like ranked voting, where you can vote for a couple of candidates as opposed to one. I think that is a way to break the twoparty system also. When i say break the twoparty system, break the twoparty system. Democrats 28 . Republicans 26 . Independents 43, libertarians,en greens making up the rest. Really, democrats republicans have outgrown their representation. Host in the first debate the first question by Nbcs Lester Holt dealt specifically with jobs and manufacturing. Wanted to know specifically what each candidate would do this create more jobs in the u. S. What would you do . Guest steve, in the 2012 cycle when i ran for president , rick perry was beating his chest he created more jobs than anybody running for president in 2012. He did a really good job. Turns out i had the best recordi when it came to jobs. My response in 2012 same as it is today. Government doesnt create jobs. Private sector does. I think i contributed mightily this notion of equal opportunity. I vetoed a lot of legislationof that was going to give advantage to those that already had advantage. Government is for sale. Crony capitalism is when government picks winners and losers. If government doesnt pick winners and losers then you have equality by everyone. Everyone can equally compete. What im offer something certainty. Taxes are not going to go up. Rules and regulations are just going to get better. And i am not getting elected dictator or king. Im getting elected president of the United States. But i would advocate elimination of income tax and corporate tax. Replacing those taxes with one federal consumption tax. I put out the, i put out there for your examination fair tax. Get on internet. Check out fair tax. It has been a proposal that has been around for 10 years. Every year about 80 congressman and women sign on to it. It dots the is and crosses the ts how you accomplish one federal consumption tax. Bottom line i think it would be fair. Bottom line, i think it would create tens of millions of jobs in this country because of a zero corporate tax, and letsy not kid ourselves. You and i pay for corporate tax. Corporations dont pay for their corporate tax. Host lets go to ted from bedford, virginia, supporter of Hillary Clinton. Youre next. Caller caller yeah, hi, thanks for taking my call, governor johnson. I got to say im, cant really call myself a clinton supporter but i will certainly be voting for her but ive got to say your humility and honesty are very refreshing. I really like it. My question is, do you agree with the vast number of climate scientists from 96 or 97 , every survey they do, same number keeps up, that say that Climate Change is real and humans are causing it . First do you agree with them, first of all. Guest yes. Caller regardless of your y question, im sorry, ive got written this down. If we assume they are correct, what are your solutions to it . Does government have a role . And if private private enterprise is going to take care of it alone, how exactly would that work. That is pretty much my question, thank you for taking it. My guest well, yeah, right now you and i as consumers are demanding less carbon emission and were getting that. With regard to world, paris accord for example, i dont see how it is achievable. I really dont. I think it set unrealistic goals. Were 11 of the worlds carbon emission 16 . Carbon doesnt know any boundaries. I dont want to get out front on this to the point that the u. S. Loses jobs as a result of being out front on this but i do think that consumers will drive less carbon emission in really big way. Coal is a good example. Marginal coal assets have been i bankrupted. The coal that is currently on line is supplying what is 36 of the current u. S. Electric call load. Why would you build a coal fired plant today, as low as the price of coal has been depressed, even lower is the price of natural gas. So why build a coal plant if you can build a natural gas plant for less money . Well that is the market at work. That is a cleaner planet. Host turn to drugs. . Youve been a very vocal proponent of drug legalization. This is from david lawson with a specific question on that. He says, what would you say about your support for drug legalization to parents of children lost to drug addiction . Guest well, first of all the only drug i advocated legalizing, this is since 1999, the highest elected official in the United States calling for legalization of marijuana. That is the only one im callino for legalization of is marijuana. I think were going to do that as a country. When we do that, i think well come a quantum leap of understanding when it comes to the drug issue. That quantum leap to understand drugs first as a health issue rather than a criminal justice issue. When you talk about overdose, you talk about death due towe drugs, what were concerned with is death, disease, crime, and corruption. And 90 of that is related to prohibition. Quantity, quality, urn known, dirty needles which lead to hiv, hepatitisc. The fact it is legal, you have to indulge in prostitution. Guns come out because disputes are played out with ounce if rather than the courts. So, legalizing marijuana then the big recognition, hey, it is a health issue, not a criminal justice issue. E. For all of those that have died due to overdose, look that is tragic, it is quality, quantity, unknown. It is prohibition that kills. Host do you find any benefits from using marijuana yourself personally . Guest i have, i have not had a drink of alcohol in 30 years. My wife is health and wellness. Comparing alcohol to marijuana, i think marijuana is way safer than Everything Else that is out there, starting with alcohol. And i would like to point out, that the campaign to legalize marijuana in colorado, the campaign was based on marijuana is safer than alcohol, which i believe that it is. But look, i begrudge no one taking the edge off of the day by consuming marijuana, nor do i begrudge anyone taking the edge off the day by consuming alcohol. It is just dont take impairment, if you get impaired around get behind the wheel of a car. That is where government needs to have a role and will have a role. Look, impairment is not an excuse to do harm to someone else. Host john from phoenix, arizona, supporter of donald trump. Good evening. Welcome to the program. Caller hi. I would like any president including you regarding all the construction jobs that have been lost since this Housing Market died, why americans have not the on our construction sites . I do know why. S because of the fact that the new homebuilders are taking advantage of the fact that people are having to break the law. Theyre using w9 forms to hire people to be on builders sites. And then 90 of the people that are filling out this form turns into a 1099 at the end of the year and irs collects these forms and theyre fake, 9 ofe. Them are using fake Social Security numbers. These are thousands of jobs on our construction sites being lost. Im wondering why no president talked about all the jobs that are lost by the middle class through new homebuilders taking advantage of the fact that laws are being forced, not being enforced and were losing our jobs. Host john, thank you. Guest first of all, i dont know if you know my history but i started a oneman handyman business in albuquerque in 1974 and actually grew that business to employ over 1000 people. Lecher call, mechanical, plumbing, pipe fitting. Some of the best workers that i had were immigrants. And i maintain that. I also maintain that it is not an issue of lower pay unless it is an issue of language. Theyre the first ones that recognize that. Theyre taking jobs that u. S. Gn citizens dont want. You rightfully describe the hoop jumping that goes on with false documentation, that they present to get these jobs. I would like to see work visas issued. Make this something up front. It doesnt have to be illegal but a great untold story is these taxes get collected from immigrants that are presenting false documentation, and that taxes are never collected. So they are contributing to the system in a big way and not actually taking advantage of what theyre paying into. Host governor johnsons another question from the first president ial debate dealt with income inequality, pointing out Many Americans are living from paycheck to paycheck. What could do, what is the rolef of government to boost the income of American People and tax code in this country that may help the American People and also to your earlier point about creating jobs . Guest steve, something that i always want, i want to give people the following advice, and the advice i have to give is, take whatever it is that you know and apply ity entr entrepreneurially. Create your own job. Create jobs for others. Well, there is probably a collective scoff at that because of how difficult it is to do that. Well, government can play a role in making that a lot easier. So if what people are looking for is income equality, peter pr taking from paul, i dont know if government is going to ever be able to step in and make that equitable but if people are looking for equal opportunity, where you can compete equally with somebody else, and i thinkn a great example of that right now is the internet. Look, as individuals, all of us are on par with every single other individual on the planet because of the internet. I think the model for the futuru is uber everything. Its eliminating the middleman. It is allowing you as the entrepreneur to deliver your goods and services to the end user. And user pays less money because theres not a middleman. You as the provider of goods and services you end up to make more money because there is not a middleman. I do think this is the model of the future and there are assaults by government, by legislation. Hillary wants, hillary does not want to see uber. Doesnt want to see airbnb. I was talking to a young lady in baltimore who got her phd insc science. She said i have horrendous student debt. I figured out a way to pay for them. I started renting out my place, airbnb. But the city of baltimore said stepped in, nope, cant do it, not allowed. That is government standing in the way what i think is the tip of the iceberg of the sharing economy that is out there. Get government, get government out of the equation. Government plays a role, health, safety, equality. Making sure that no one harms anyone else in that that context though government an assure im on par with everybody else. Im not at a disadvantage a because i never attempted to do something. Host well go to katie, one of your supporters joining us from pennsylvania. Youre next. Caller hey, gary. Guest hey. Caller one of the main complaints i hear about your campaign is that youre not more open to combating Environmental Issues. Are you willing to consider opening your mind to this and specifically how so or on what grounds . Guest youre saying im not open to combating Environmental Issues . I support the epa i think government has a fundamental role to protect us against individuals, groups, corporations, foreign governments, that would do us harm. Ai i would put pollution in the category of harm. I put the epa as kind of a forefront of protecting us against polluters. In new mexico, as governor of new mexico, there was a major polluter of river in northern new mexico. Ew that pollution metals contamination, mining enterprise had gone on for decades. They refused to acknowledge that they were even responsible for the metals contamination in thei first place. I shut them down because my biggest anvil was the Environmental Protection agency and look, if youre not going to come to the table in 30 days i will turn you over to federal epa, and you will become a superfund site. That is exactly what happened. So i would like to think, yeah, im going to stand up against polluters and, i believe in the health and safety of you and i as citizens of this country and health and safety. Look, pollution flies in the face of health and safety. Host gary johnson is graduate of the university of new mexico. He served as the governor of that state from 1995 until 2003. This next topic has been the most tweeted topic over the last hour. It deals with education and college costs. This is from adam who says, what is your proposal to deal with the rising cost of universities and Student Loan Debt . Guest well, i think that the main reason for the high cost of College Tuition is guaranteed government Student Loans. If guaranteed government Student Loans never would have existed, College Tuition today i would be half of what it is right now. So government has interjected itself, picking winners and losers, winners in this case, colleges and universities thatat are absolutely immune from having to price their products in a way that if you didnt have a guaranteed government studente loan, you would stand back and really question theay affordability of college and ultimately the prices like i say, would be much lower. I think students have been sold a bill of good when it comes to Student Loans and that they are graduating from college with a Home Mortgage without the home. H i would be open to legislation that would fix the Interest Rates in line with the bailout from wall street, believing that this is a catastrophe that is looming out there. And doing away with guaranteed government Student Loans isnt going to do away with Student Loans. Is it is just going to put it over on the private sector. In if you did all of that, College Tuitions would drop l dramatically. Host quick question of another viewer with regard to 2020, four years from now, wondering if you dont make it in this election would you consider running again . Guest no, i have been given a really good shot here. There is still a possibility of making this happen. Like i say, this cspan appearance right now, if this doesnt do it, i dont know what will. No, ive been given my shot. 2012, 1. 3 million votes, 1 . Momentum continued. Momentum is pretty darn straight up. In spite of all the odds, were in there. Were contending at the moment. E but, 2020, i think there will be a slew of libertarian candidatea that will come along that will really be exciting and i will look forward to that but i will look forward to that as a, as an observer and not a participant. Host we wanted to focusha primarily on Public Policy issues on this political campaign. Two political questions, your running mate bill weld wants to make sure everything he can to make sure donald trump is not elected. Is he doing enough to help you in this election to make a dent in 2016 . Guest absolutely. Bill weld, before we got together running as a ticket here for the Libertarian Party, we were pretty good friends. We are best friends now. I hold bill weld up on a pedestal. He want to keep donald trump from being president. He wants to keep donald trump being president as much as i dont want to see Hillary Clinton as president. So we have a pretty balancedst ticket. Host former congressman ron paul who was 1988 libertarian nominee said jill stein is more progressive than you. Ay what would you say to say congressman paul . Guest thats congressman