Think things we can learn from those that didnt want to share. The common thing was they were good at being elusive. The biggest fish that got away was bill clinton. I was relatively close to meeting him a view times but it fell through and i regretted that. After i did 200300 the number of new ideas i was encountering was that great. But i set a goal and the largest studies was by columbia and they interviewed 545 people so i was going to do 546. I was in the middle of this research and it was january of 2011 and i turned to my wife and i said i have been working on this for seven years and still have 90 interviews to reach the goal but i think i might get to serve at Gordon College and i dont know how i would do both or finish the study. And she sat up in bed and said you are going to. So you know who the leader is in our household. I hope you buy the book and thanks for coming out. [ applause ] thank you michael and mary grace. If you did not a chance to ask your question, fear not. There is opportunity to do so either on our Facebook Page or twitter feed at trinityform or viewfromthetop. And tomorrow we will post photos from the event and we encourage you to log on and tag your friends and add comments and so on. All of you should have on your seat an invitation to join the trinity form society and we hope you will avail yourself of the opportunity. Events are not possible like this without the support of members and donors. If you have enjoyed tonight, i encourage you to join and make events possible like this for others. As a special incentive to join tonight we will give you a free back of view from the top as well as our subscription to quarterly readings. In addition, if you are interested in becoming a Trinity Forum academy fellow we encourage you to thing about. There are people in the audience you can talk to. Bob crammer or doug chapman. And i think it is only appropriate to end with thanks and there are many people to thank this evening. We very much appreciate our speakers and the insight you have brought. Appreciate Gordon College sponsoring the event. And the staff there. And i would like to thank my own incredible and competent staff and who do their job wonderfully. Rebecca good. Margaret and elias thank you vore much. [ applause ] and thank you to the volunteers. We appreciate your work. Michael will be at the Registration Table outback where he is selling and signing copies of his work. I encourage you to do that. And in addition to the bar is open after we leave. Thank you for coming and good night. [ applause ] you are watching booktv, nonfiction authors and books every weekend on cspan2. Here is a look at upcoming book fairs and festivals. The 11th annual roosevelt reading festival is coming up featuring talks on the 32nd president. From july