first he was the hunted. then he became the hunter. tiger woods looking for late tournament dramatics. we have the highlights. tiger has 14 major championships, the same number as roger federer has in tennis until today. highlights of an epic wimbledon's mens final. >> and how many all stars does your team have? we have the answers. the n.l. rosters announced today. wrie>> welcome to espnews, where keep you current with the latest breaking news, scores and highlights. i'm michelle lafontaine. and we'll have roger federer going for history, tiger woods going for his third win of the season but some good stuff going on right now in baseball. >> big day in sports. and manny ramirez just pinch-ity fo-hitfor the dodgers. he was given the day off. he came up the top of the 11th. first pitch. it blooped in for a single but there was a very nice sliding catch to end the inning. first along the right railing in right and then he robs ramirez of a bloop single to shallow right center with a nice sliding catch just above the beautiful turf on a beautiful day in san diego. so it's 6-6, bottom 11. dodgers should have won this game. it was 6-1 going into the bottom of the ninth. they had their best starter on the hill, chad billingsly. something went a bit wrong and it went more huange wronger ande game was tied. >> the astros and giants in san francisco. astros looking to avoid a three-game sweep. look at randy johnson. the american league, he's batting, swings and he injures his left shoulder. that, of course, is his pitching shoulder. now, it's 3-0 already houstonwi and here's johnson throws and throws it wide. he reaches on the error. teppinger scores. there's something wrong with randy johnson's shoulder. he's done. he's been pitching really well of late too. s ooswald pitched really well today. he went eight innings, one earned, six k's. astros win 7-1. >> the yankees were hosting the blue jays. top four, leading 6-4, aaron hill with a runner on first takes chamberlain to right field for a homer. chamberlain not happy. faces just one more batter and was done after 3 2/3. bobottom fourth, right field for the three-run homer. bottom fifth now, same score, runner on second. derek jeter, four hits and he takes that b.j. ryan pitch to right field, a two-run homer. yankees win it. >> could they tie boston for the a.l. east lead? boston had to lose for that to happen but drew coffee didn't want that to happen against seattle. ninth of the season for ortiz. six innings later, red sox trailing by one, runners on first and second for ortiz, and he takes beautista to right field for a single. j.d. drew ties up it at four. and then an inning later, the pitch goes to right field. the sox win it 8-4. >> brewers-cubs. derek lee against mike burns. there it is, that's a two-run homer. 15th of the year for legal. he's been red-hot of late. 2-0 cubs. top of the fourth, prince fielder against ted lilly. 22nd home run of the year for fielder. cuts the lead to 2-1. but in the end, it was all cubs. lee again, base hit to left off burns. the cubs win. >> roger federer and tiger woods, they do commercials together, they're friends. they like to win on the same day, apparently. federer with pete sam pra samprs looking on from the royal's box. the second set tiebreak, missing badly. he would later blame the wind gusting behind federer. roddick's lone grapped slam grae came in the 2003 u.s. open. now federer takes the second set 7-6. it would tiebreak as well the third set and federer bringing roddick to the net. and then passes him. about the in the fourth set, it would the american who would get excited. roddick up 2-1 with a break point and he's got it, putting it past federer, breaking fedder he fofederer for the fourth tims set. so we go to the fifth set at the all england club. roddick keeping up his stellar play, crosses the backhand up the line for the winner. they would hold serve and hold serve and hold serve and hold serve. it was frustrating for everyone watching, although it would become an historic match because of that. federer working roddick side to side. and then serving at 15-14, had not broken roddick once but federer with match point gets it done. can't believe it's over. wins 16-14 in the fifth and now has 15 grand slam titles passing pete sampras for the all-time record. and here posing with the great pete sampras, bjorn borg. on monday, he will regain the world number one spot from nadal, who missed this year's wimbledon due to injury. roddick had a gritty performance in defeat. afterwards, federer was glad to break sampras's record right where he won the first of his 15 grand slam crowns back in 2003. >> well, i'm happy i broke the record here, you know, because this meant the most to me because my heroes and idols being so successful here. so it definitely feels like i've come full circle for me starting is here, sort of sending it here. of course my career is far from over but still this is special that so many legends were sitting there today and obviously especially pete. i know how much the record meant to him. guidance was astonishing to many americans when these travel books started to come out. for one thing they were not books like we were used to thinking of where to stay, or worse be leavened routes going from point* a2 point b but wpa guides for many encyclopedias with essays with zero coulter, local history, a state history, a journalism, literature, geogra phy agriculture, science and industry, ethnicity, it was wpa guide to washington d.c. is 1,000 pages. to hold that is a traveler is a daunting task but what all 52 guides gathered is the amazing account of each place selected by the people there. so what you have is people who were never and delivery mainstream writing history and you get something that was very far outside the conventional history they had at the time. so i will read briefly from one of the reviews that came out in 1939 in response to some of the wpa guides a reviewer for the new republic said the american emerging from the rider's project burke's is like nothing we have ever seen. nothing in our academic histories prepare you for it. the guides are a vast catalog of secret rooms. it is a grand melancholy democratic anthology, a majestic choral call of national failure, a terrible and engaging. what he means by national failure is the whole sequence of unexpected at the local level, the bureaucratic snafus, a federal projects that started and fell apart in the state efforts that would come and go because at the heart of all of the history that the wpa writers were finding in the thirties there was an enduring quality among americans more than and their institutions. that is what really comes across in a guy. the american guides make some of the horrors of the press that was difficult to endure. so that just gives a little overview of what this writers project was doing and i think that is how i came to look at the project first. first-aid print lend me a copy of wpa guide to new orleans we were taking a trip across the country from my eight wife's father's attic i did not think it would be very relevant to our trip but we get there and start reading about what the wpa writers found in the cemeteries not just a tourist spots and from current guides but the belief and practice is that went into mourning. interconnection between actual creole morning practices and the modern patio furniture that were surprising connections. it did not whitewash anything. it showed the ethnic tensions in the city, it economic upsides of the city and it is still a fascinating read it now. that is how i came to be interested in the died also for people who put this together and that is really the book is about one dozen of the people who worked on deck guides across the country. i will give two quick examples of people who grew up in the same time contemporary but yet wait outside the literary establishment. >> raffaello cent drop in the black district of oklahoma city under segregation and his father ran a ice delivery company and he dried -- died in a tragic work accident when he was three. mother worked hard raising two boys and she gets rolf to high school and gets a scholarship to tuskegee to study music and the depression hits. and roups mother dies and he finds he can no even days not even pay the partial tuition he winds up in harlem with no place to stay and by way of another african-american what you found a job on the raiders' project, richard wright he defended -- be branded ralph he said this is a way to keep body and soul together and you can explore research and writing and see what happens. so before long ralph ellison is interviewing people on the street in harlem and asking about their lives because that is his job and he is listening and hearing how people tell their own stories and he is finding a completely different history than what he read in school. he sees how his own story connect to the northward migration. he sees the possibility of what storytelling gets you. so and the office of the new york project office are exchanging notes about the research they are finding as well as the fiction they are starting to write. they write books for the. >> host: guide to new york and also riding fiction and developing their own voices. in the fifties allison invisible man comes out and really captures a whole passage to american life that people had not seen before. meanwhile in the '30's and jim thompson also raised in oklahoma city has his own troubles back of his father a deputy sheriff in a little town outside oklahoma city. he lost his shirt and bad investments in the oil industry. filed jim thompson is still and high-school he supports the family working at a sleazy hotel basically printing and drug dealing doing anything to help the families stay afloat just after the crash in the late twenties and early 30's. he gets to college will pass to drop out and winds up back in oklahoma city where writing for a magazine with true crime stories and barely able to support his wife and young child. he learned about the writers' project and gets a job with the oklahoma project and soon he is driving routes across the state for the guide to oklahoma and he is finding the holdout of the dalton gang and printing fabs up for the tourist part of the oklahoma guided also interviewing people about fuld stories and what they had heard growing up. and hearing a dark string of how people joke about what oklahoma territory is about. he becomes actually the editor of the oklahoma guide and just poor's a tremendous amount of energy into its. later in the fifties he becomes a leading novelist and screenwriter and works with stanley kubrick who says his vision is the darkest yet never worked with. nobody expected a link to the old oklahoma's stories but to look at what he was writing what he gathered in the thirties use the how he was intensely interested in people's stories and how they were basically a step beyond what they were recording in the thirties. the at wpa guides, the writers we have california and doing research for that guy, people were gathering stories and they were interviewing people and finding you were getting more personal stories from the first comprehensive set of interviews with former slaves that is still the largest firsthand account of slavery ever gathered they had a mandate from washington that it developed a folklore division within the writers' project to interview as many ex slaves that were alive we do not think of it now but people in the '80s and '90s had lived slavery in the civil war. just in the modern age is coming up, there are still all of the stories of the past that the writers project seized on and it was impossible to get this in the travel guide. they started planning on putting out anthologies of firsthand accounts and these five histories. a lot of the anthologies did not materialize at the time. with the end of the depression and by 1939 things are looking better in the economy, world 42 was living in the distance there was already concerned that the administration will have to wrap up the budget for defense. so the new deal recovery programs were starting to be hit that they were not doing anything essentials. so just as the wpa guides are coming out there getting readers acclaim and critical acclaim but also facing problems of tightening federal budget. at the end you have the state's paying basically for the last several years of wrapping up a number of the guides and also programs. and with that you have a lot of stories falling out of the picture. in the last 20 years a lot of research has brought forth a personal life histories together. you can go to the library of congress website and find thousands of life histories online you can choose by state or search any way you want if anybody ever visited new mexico you could find them but you can pull together a life history that was never seen as intended at the time. it is a golden time for finding the wpa guide that have been republished for many of them and the life histories. the connections that come across i talk to somebody just before now and they were talking about a town that was featured in a guide and new-line in passing with a great concern for speed, a town that is even now known as a speed trap. you have people like the legendary "new york times" editor johnny apple who wrote many travel books himself. he discovered the wpa guide when based in virginia park originally from ohio but came across the guide to virginia and used it to uncover ruins and local landmarks he had heard about but could not find recent references to the city became a convert to a lot of the wpa guides he talked to historians and journalists to have had similar experiences into using these as a way to get into a under the radar history of places. you find the roots and a lot of these guides are available and public libraries. my local library has the wpa guide to virginia they have been reprinted and you can find them in bookstores. it is a surprise to see how thrash these guides can be. they are uneven quality, you cannot expect across 48 continental states and guys then also 14 alaska and quarter we go to be perfect quality but they are an amazing nugget. it got inside the place and made a fascinating for me i wanted to get inside the experiences of the people that put that together so the book includes the new orleans guide and the editor of that and put his heart and soul into all aspects of new orleans life into the wpa guy. as people tried to unpacked the stories and get that across the documentary which will be too, when our shows get across a number of them but the book has phase-in to get more into the stores and connections that were not available in the film one of my favorites is ruby wilson who was a nurse in north platte nebraska have never worked as a writer before but she got a job with the writers' project to interview and do the life history interviews. she essentially interviewed 1% of the town. she interviewed a cross section of hotel owners, a mexican farm workers, the owners of the japanese diner and their story coming from hawaii. reinsure she met people she never expected, she did not know before, but she got their stories down and she sought as a window and a number of them became famous later and the book looks into those. lake zora neale hurston who did an amazing job and florida finding culture. she was trained in folklore. and she established herself as a novelist and the harlem and this is not -- renaissance and thirties she knew her storytelling capability and the rich trove both from eaton go where she grew up in the african-american in town and florida up the gulf coast she did the field recordings of songs, stories, and a sing to hear also on the library of congress website. but there are also many others who did not become a famous like ruby wilson yet to they went on and became and got the stories down and ruby went to write a history or a book about a local pioneer who would have been lost to history if ruby had not gone out and gather those interviews and collected her own history. that is essentially my take on this story and my introduction to the book. what also has suggestions for the reading, exploring come on the web and in your own travels, you can use everything from mobile based copies and get pds of the guides and find a lot of life history interviews on line and you can match up the stories of the places and ways with the people that were not possible even 10 years ago. i hope you will explore those and i would be interested to hear what you find in your own exploration of the material. it is a great opportunity i think but even more broadly for me it shows a new view or new story of the depression, what people did. it was not just the bread line and the despair when things fell apart there was opportunity to do something new. that is what the wpa writers did and they found that by taking stock of their stories and going out to the economic crisis and documentation local stories that they really get a grasp of the strength americans did not know that they had at the time and it created a new view of america that reverberated throughout the rest of the century we had young people, those who have not thought of themselves as writers, some who went on to win the nobel prize for literature, zora neale hurston, a young poet's margaret walker, a range of perspectives we would not have seen other wise. that is my discovery threw them through the wpa riders through investigation you find strengths that you don't know that you have. i hope you find that in the stories in the book. that is my introduction. i would welcome any questions about that time period your comments from people who have used their own guides? >> i am assuming that the writers went out and to rural areas that the guides them sells did not benefit the people were interviewed for them. so to uncover the treasure trove of americana at the time and the people that lived up the time, who did the travel guides that actually benefit the most? dollars? >> it is interesting. some more local best sellers. the those that benefited of course, the main purpose was to put people on salaries and other writers would be the recipients of the economic stimulus so they would buy food and pay rent so the local economies would benefit but in terms of that guides to document local history. and lincoln and nebraska, it is the capital of nebraska but the guide to lincoln was a local bus sellers of the people who had been interviewed were reading and they could buy it or $0.25. they could see their town and all of the stories behind it. some were very scandalous price think the town of scranton pennsylvania brought a libel suit. [laughter] and scandals about the massachusetts guide the governor and library and were scandalized. but the people who were there did find their place. there was tension between the state offices and the headquarters because the writers want to show their story then you have idaho a real kerr my agenda, a loner who basically quote the whole idaho guide himself. he bucked washington every chance he could now he is mainly known as he rose to a huge series of novels of the testament of man, we may know them now because he wrote the book and inspired jeremiah johnson, of the film. but his effort to get idaho 34 the national spotlight ran against the centralized plans of headquarters so you see a lot of the states during that. . . help the publishing industry by getting the publishable text to them and then the publishers would handle the printing and distribution, and so they were commercially published. you could buy -- get it nationwide. the california guide was a book of the month club selection. so some of them got wider distribution than others, but you could always get the local guide and it was to be affordable. that was a stipulation of the contracts. any other questions? >> hi. i loved this project, and i've wished we could find another opportunity to tell the stories of little people, you know, just the people you pass on the street, and i wonder whether you can see us ever reproducing a project like this in america? i mean, everything is all about green jobs because we need to get people back to work and stimulate the economy, but can you imagine another similar kind of effort to put people to work, to collect these kinds of stories? >> that's a really interesting question, and it's one that's very time hill now because of the -- because the stimulus package include $60 million for the national endowment for the arts to do -- mainly visual arts but getting artists to portray both economic stimulus and a creative vision of what america is now. i think you do see -- partly because of the earlier example, there is definitely an opportunity to -- there are ways of getting grassroots -- every man's story down, and you have -- this project inspired story corps, which is the story corps van goes across the country, and instead of having government interviewers, interviewing people, they have a loved one interview someone on broadcast quality digital media, and get their story in an hour interview, and you hear it every friday on national public radio. there are thousands -- that's one outgrowth of it. i can certainly imagine there would be a way to harness people to get this kind of a local investigative work. i can also -- you can also see the chaotic example of bureaucracy from the 30s example, and see -- it turned up wonderful material inch the short run it looks like disaster because it was so wild and there was -- the editorial process was all over the place, and the publication was uncertain. in the long run it had a huge influence and impact and hopefully that would be the same case with anything that would happen now. >> do you have a question? has anybody used a wpa guide or referred to one? >> wpa guide to new york. >> to new york city? >> uh-huh, which it fantastic. >> that one actually -- you may not know that michael used that guide to recreate a 1930s new york, and the subway routes and radio stations and everything. what did you find a particular route that was -- >> it was a gift prior to a trip to new york so just kind of perusing, but i have beside reading a lot of new york writers from the 30s. was there a guide to most major cities or primarily by state? >> primarily by state. so there was the guide to new orleans. there was only been a half a dozen or a dozen guides to cities. the guide to washington, dc, new york city, new orleans, lincoln, several other cities. san francisco and l.a. but, yeah, the new york, john cheever worked on that one. actually, in talking with michael, we found sort of evidence and a description of a day in coney island, the fingerprints of cheever and how his perspective kind of goes from morning to dusk and gets this whole sort oflyrical view of the board walk. >> i just won erred because so many of the writers at the time went on to write fiction, like jim thompson or this person in idaho that was a one-man editorial force. there is any question about the editorial accuracy of the guides? >> that's an interesting question. a number of the guide did set up -- the states had copy editing, fact checking. for example, where the editor in nebraska who had torn -- had been a hobo but had been an english major before he had to leave college. he wound up back in lincoln, and his former professor said, go over here and get a job at the artist project and don't catch another freight out off town. so the last place the expected to be. he had had enough newspaper training to set set up -- a copy edit desk and fact-checking desk, and the talked in a memoir about how they did fact-checking and found a lot of landmarks that were wrong, and museum black -- black cards that were wrong. so a number of the offices got into fact checking. in new orleans, and accounts of riots in florida, they did put a lot of research effort into it because they felt like this was a national spotlight. they weren't just writing it for the state. it was part of a national snapshot. yes. >> do you know if fiction writers or filmmakers other than folks who do chick flicks have focused on this original material or films recently other than the one you mentioned, jeremiah johnson? >> that's a really good question. a great scope for it. i think a lot of the stories of the individual writers would make great films, and their friendships, because they really did -- one thing you see that margaret walker wrote about her experience in chicago, she had just graduated from northwestern. she basically had to lie about her age to get on to the writers' project, but she had been sort of a poet, and this working with richard wright, really started to write differently, about people that she knew and more straightforward and social realist terms. so, it did come out? fiction later. a woman in minnesota wrote about women that she knew, basically a women's group in st. paul, and whose stories have never been told. she wrote a novel on based on that called "the girl." it's about a young woman caught up in a bank heist, and that would be a great film, i think, too. but i haven't seen one made from that yet. >> were the guides actually an inducement to tourism? did tourism increase? >> i don't think that people actually measured it at the time because -- that's a good question. i haven't come across any -- i didn't come across any attempt to measure whether they did improve tourism. i think in the stories -- some of the journalists and reviewers came up later they could have spurred some -- particularly along the routes that people wouldn't have been expected to travel much before. but i don't think any of the books were touted for having discovered anything. it was -- right. almost kind of beyond just employing the writers. it was a clinging to a thread of hope for that. actually, the head of the project, henry alesburg, he hoped it would put writers in touch with american life again, and something that congress wouldn't mandate, but his own personal agenda did end up bearing fruit. he put a lot of writers in contact with american stories in a way that sort of kept unfolding so slowly over the following decades that i don't think many people tracked its influence. >> so look at all the things we have learned from your scholarship but also looking at the project, the overall wpa project itself, and i mean it seems to me often we don't think about the fact that we are each historymaking like every day,; e just kind of take it for granted. what i'm suggesting now is now we can stand back 60 years and look at all the riches we uncovered with this project. so like why don't we just go ahead and do it again? i mean, really do it. for instance, story corps came to richmond a couple of years ago, and everytime i passed -- they parked in front of the public library, and everytime i passed i thought, yeah, somebody ought to go in there. it never saw anybody -- the people outside in their lawn chairs waiting for somebody to come along, and so i was intimidated, and i imagine there are a lot of us who were intimidated. so we wouldn't, like, walk forward and offer, so if you can use your influence to suggest to somebody we really need to do this again. >> that's a great idea. the american library association with nehs sponsoring events and programs across the country in the next few months, including at public libraries and that legacy from the 30s and also how we do get old history, how we get local histories now, so you could have, for example, a reportable story corps or history booth in the public library and train people how to do their own versions of that, and you will see the library of virginia is one of the participating libraries. i'm not sure if they have scheduled itout but day will have a series of events that will explore that as well as the 30s legacy so it would be great to explore that more with them. seems like library woos be a good starting point for that. any other questions? >> has the virginia guide been re-issued lately? >> it was republished in 1996. the wpa god to -- guide to virginia. i think the actual title was a guide to the old dominion. but, yeah, it had a nice cover, i think a' 30s style mural on the front. i used it just a few months ago, check it out of my local library andite on -- used it on a trip, and just sort of learn about aspects of the local history and local feuds and migration that i would not have found in a current guide. so that one is -- actually, freeman, historian, wrote the introductory essay for that at the time. so besides the young unknowns at the time, sometimes you had professors writing bits for guide, and in wisconsin you hat leopold writing a series on conservation. before he wrote the almanac. so it's interesting to see these pieces. but definitely the wpa guide to virginia, it's massive. it also -- there was also a series of books on the african-american life, and a number of the states -- the one -- there was one planned that zora neale hurston worked on, the florida negro, a whole series that used that terminology. the virginia negro, has a really indepth look at african-american life in the states and with men first-hand accounts. so it does a better service than you might think from the title. how we think of it now. >> this touches on music but any relationship between these -- the works works and the inside k speed ya of american music? >> a really good question. i'm sure there's relationship, and it's probably like one or two degrees. in fact, -- of separation. the recordings that some of the musicologists who recorded for the folks songs were in louisiana, oklahoma, california, would later record -- some of their work came out on records which is what harry smith brought his collection to. so he came out of -- it was in the era, moses ashe who ran the record company from the 40s on, certainly was -- he adopted the mandate of the writers project works in that sense of collecting all culture, any sort of recorded sound, any kind of sound that people would make ask that would be his catalogue. >> started in 1948. >> yeah, yeah, that's,' 47,' 48. he recorded woodie guthrie, who was friends with jim thompson, so you have a lot of overlap in that. any other questions? >> what about -- two questions. what about films made -- were there films made with this project, number one, and number two, can you talk about your next project? >> oh, um, there was a -- i found only one film by a wpa arts program. i actually -- it was made by a -- leo seltzer who had been a social filmmaker. he worked with the workers film and photo league, and they had documented labor strikes and marches in the early 30s. he later worked for the wpa art project, and he made a film for the -- in new york of fresco murals, and basically how you make a mural, but in the course of that he did a lot of street filming of life in new york city. he had that same documentary feel, even though he's documenting how the artists were portraying the city. like i said, in the 30s he and others were doing early social documentary making and creating that legacy, and as far as my own next project, we're still wrapping up the last bits of the documentary for the broadcast, so i haven't seep my -- seen my way clear of that yet. thanks. >> this is a personal question. out of the guides you researched, did you have a particular favorite state and what was your least favorite guide. >> yeah. yeah. um, i still have a sort of soft spot for the first -- i discovered the new orleans identified because it captured -- new orleans guide because it captured so much -- the way i came cross and it the parts of the city it explored, it explored jazz in way that -- at the time -- wouldn't aspect codified jazz but got into local bandleaders and leaders from the ninth ward, and all branches of the city. it also -- i liked that one. i tried out the california guide and traveled not long ago, and that is a really good one, too. so it's hard for -- i look the oklahoma guide. there is a very -- a wryness to that one and the nebraska guide that the tone is just really -- could have been written now. it's fun to read. what was the other part of your question? >> any guides you disliked. >> yeah. there's some -- the -- i couldn't get much into the -- what i read of the mississippi guide. and iowa was okay. but i tend to remember the ones i like. others i liked were wisconsin guide has some good pieces in it, too. and florida is really rich, a rich guide. those were some of my favorites. another question? >> because these were started in 33, did many of these guides, like out in the midwest, touch base on like essentially the crime wave that was going on at that time? >> that's a good question. they started in '35. the wpa was started in '35, but they did -- some of them did cover the crime, like, pretty boy floyd comes up in the oklahoma guide. the wisconsin guide talks about the little bohemia, the place where john dillinger held up and where the fbi tried to ambush him and failed, and even the guide broke -- even says that john dillinger, sr. is running a motel in -- nearby little bohemia with artifacts from his son's gangster friends. and now you can search the guides in pdf form, you can search and look for names that might not be in the index but that come up in the text. one last question. >> what about native american life. was that represented in anything that you ran across? >> actually, that's a really good question. the wpa guides had henry elsberg wanted to get a better picture of the native american life and some do a better job than others. you find accounts of nebraska, fraternal omaha reservation life and winnebago life but they're outside or at a distance. they didn't do a very good job. there were several pieces of the writers' project that did get really inside the native american communities. one was in montana. they collected pieces for the montana guide and local histories that really got inside that community. the other was in wisconsin. and we get -- one section in the book talks about how the oneida, a branch of the iroquois, had migrate from upstate new york, to wisconsin, lost almost all their land and was on the verge of dying out, and through -- a small part of the writers project, linguist basically got a written version of the language, and they recruited oneida tribe members to be on the writers project to write their own accounts in the oneida lang and interview their elders and they interviewed them about oneida life before the migration from new york. they still have these notebooks. the notebooks were lost for decaded and surfaces ten years nothing a basement in wisconsin, and so the oneida historians have this material, and it's basically helped to -- even before then it helped to preserve oneida language and history in a way that would have been lost if they hadn't done that. thanks for asking. >> well, thank you all for coming. if you have any other questions after, i would be happy to talk to you. thanks to kelly and fountain store and book tv. i really appreciate it. 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