Thanks very much. I want to thank the joint center again for inviting me, and i want to i dont want to lose sight of the fact that professor cashins written an extremely valuable and important book, and i, you know, i agree with her bottom line even though i disagree, as you all have seen, with a lot of the reasoning and premises of it. Let me just end by reading a list that i made. You know, years ago. This was in the context of immigration. And, you know, a lot of discussion about immigration and assimilation, and, you know, what does i a simulation mean. Assimilation mean. Are we really expecting people to eat the same foods and listen to the same music, and the answer is, no, thats not what we mean. But we do have certain irreducible, i think, minimum of values that we expect all americans to share. And i think that this is true not only of immigrants, but of people who have been here for general races, whatever their skin generations. Whatever their skin color. Heres my top ten list. Dont disparage anyone elses race or ethnicity. Dont demand anything because of your race or ethnicity. Dont hold his to historical gr. Respect women. Learn to speak english. Dont break the law. Dont have children out of wedlock. Dont view working and studying hard as acting white. Be polite. And be proud of being an american. I think that a lot of this is, are lessons that explain why, unfortunately and this is not something thats limited to this or that racial group i think that a lot of, the failure to adhere, you know, to these rules explains why we have this widening, you know, class divide in many respects that professor cashins talking about. Okay, thank you. Sheryll . I want to thank the joint center for having me. Its been a wonderful forum, and thank you for coming out. I guess i would say, selfservingly, read the book. [laughter] no, honestly, affirmative action is an area where theres been a long debate and a lot of the arguments around it are, i think, very stale. And i would encourage you to at least engage with my ideas even if you disagree with them. I think we, as i said, i think we are in a very bad place in our society in terms of our broken politics. And yet most americans who get up every day particularly americans who are struggling they want the same things. And we have a long history in this country of political and, frankly, economic elites stoking Racial Division in order to keep potentially dangerous coalitions from forming. And thats what i want americans of all colors who struggle to get, right . Jim crow was created to separate dangerous white people who might ally with people of color to give them something to make them separate, right . And we have this growing inequality, we have declining opportunity. And unless and until we figure out ways to build these alliances, were going to get more of the same. So thank you. Thank you. Jerry . It seems appropriate to let sheryll have the last say here since this is her book and her show, so the only thing i want to say in addition is you should read sherylls book. [laughter] thank you. And you can purchase sherylls book in the lobby. [applause] please do that. Please joan my in thanking roger cleg, Sheryll Cashin and jerry. Spann. Thank you very much. And thank all of you for coming out. [applause] wed like to hear from you. Tweet us your feedback, twitter. Com booktv. Now on booktv, Theresa Payton and Theodore Claypoole talk about the positives and negatives of digital surveillance and discuss what individuals can do to protect their privacy and the privacy of their children during a book party held at the Capitol Hill Club in washington d. C. You guys ready . All right, awesome. All right. Everybodys got a glass of wine, so you can settle in . Perfect. Excellent. Im melissa hathaway, and its my great honor to be here this evening to introduce the authors of privacy in the age of big data. Who would have thought that when the internet began with its first transmission on october 29, 1969, and that weve moved forward here today in may 2014 that each one of us would at least three to five ipenmabelled devices on us enabled devices and moving to 1015 in the next few years. Were at the intersection of security and privacy in the 21st century, and these authors have identified what it means to be tracked from our home, through the internet, on our cars and as we move forward. And im just so excited to introduce Theresa Payton and ted claypool who are going to give us some of the background of the book, some of the case studies and make us think twice about when we click, connect, search and connect to that internet. What does it mean for our security, our privacy and the age of the internet . So, theresa, please. Thank you. Thank you. [applause] so first of all, thanks so much, everybody, for being here because youre either a friend of teds or a friend of mine or a colleague or a Business Partner of some sort, so thank you for giving up time in your evening to be here even though we made sure we advertised free food and free booze. [laughter] that having been said, you are busy people. Let me talk to you a little bit about why ted and i wanted to do this book. So whats really interesting about it is remember a time before Edward Snowden which was june a year ago, okay . So remember that time. And ted and i were talking about doing our second book. The first book, protecting your internet identity are you naked online, and the answer is actually, yes, you are naked online. Naked pictures i dont know about, but naked identity. And we dont want to know. [laughter] thats for after the show. Okay. So we go to the publisher, and we say weve got this great idea, its something were very concerned about, and we want to talk about privacy in the age of big data, and its crickets on the other end of the phone with the publisher. And the publisher is sweet, we love them, this is our second book, theyre here with us tonight selling the book, and they said i dont think consumers care about that at all. Were going to have a hard time selling this book. Why do you think theyre going to care about the book . They were very nice. We said we like you, wed love to have the two of you write something, why dont you think about Something Else . Not this. L and i said ted and i have been so concerned about this, and here are the things were concerned about. So i talked through a couple of things, and they sort of reluctantly agreed to write the book. So were coming up on our first deadline where everythings got to be done and turned in, and the first dead canline the boston deadline the Boston Marathon bombing happens. And if you remember, there was a lot of crowd sourcing going on in big data to try and figure out who did what and how to apprehend the culprits. So we pulled the book back to talk about how big data isnt didnt stop something from happening, but it sure helped with the case. So were wrapping it up, and then mr. Snowdens revelations are coming out, and we said we need to pull the back again, and they said dont you think this is just a passing headline . You really want to delay the book for snowden . [laughter] i said, i think this is going to be big. Trust us on this, if we release the book and snowdens not in it, people will not read it. So long story short, that was kind of a little bit of the cycle on writing the book. But the reason why im so excited that we got the chance to do the project is from a technical per spect be i i was at the per spective, i was at the beginning of creating the analytics that the banks know about you. We built one of the largest First Comprehensive online Data Analytics platforms, and this was at bar net bank which is now part of bank of america. One of the biggest implementations at that time. And i was part of doing that. And my focus was to help the bank make money and to make sure we could get a larger share of your wallet. And take care of you, of course. That was number one. I left the best for last. And the more [inaudible] yeah. Its all about the customer. I should tell you, i did not think once about somebody hacking in, stealing that data and knowing everything about you. That doesnt mean i didnt care about security at that point, but it just, it was on the mainframe, we had the Client Server implementation, and i just didnt have to think and worry that much because we had our mainframe security. Fast forward, im thinking about the data being collected by us. A lot of times people get focused on the government, and the government just scratches the surface. The its business. And they need to do it so that they can make money, so they can know you better, so they can offer you valued products, so they can get the next cure for a disease, so they can patent, you know, the heart fix that my daughter got a cup co couple years ago. So we need big data, and we need this information, but its woefully underprotected. So when i talked to ted about this book, my focus was how do i write a guide for consumers and businesses with teds brilliant legal mind helping, you know, really understand and navigating where the laws leave off and where the laws help, but how do i write a guide for you whether youre a business owner, a Business Executive or a consumer that you can read, be informed, engaged, maybe enraged. If youre not enraged at some points during the book, i didnt do my job on my pieces. Ted did his job. And then also that you could actually do something about it. Because you read the headline, and people get paralysis. And i wanted to take that paralysis away, and i wanted you to feel like you actually had control. Then theres a couple of parts where you cant really do anything about it except talk to your elected officials. And we also encourage that in the book as well. So that, for me, thats why im so excited that the project actually happened, that youre here, and i hope you enjoy reading the book. And ted and i like to talk to people as theyre reading the book, and ill turn it over to ted for his remarks on the project. Yeah. And ultimately, i think one of the things we said while we were doing this was were going to be positive. Neither of us are luddites, you know . None of us think we should get rid of the technology. In fact, part of every chapter was supposed to be heres how this technology is good, heres where it works for you, heres why its important for you, and heres why people set it up this way. And so, and in some cases they set it up that way for reasons we might not necessarily like, but we explore the good and the bad of it. But then, hopefully, you became enraged in certain places where you say i understand this is good, but it doesnt have to be this way. And thats, ultimately, where we are right now is that theres a lot going on right now, and more and mores happening as the internet of things becomes real. As you have not just a computer in your pocket, but a computer that is your jacket. And those exist right now, and we talk about them in the book. But more and more the stationary cameras around you and the sensors everywhere and the things you carry with you will be sending information out about you. And so we as a people need to make decisions about how much we care about that and how much we are willing to give out and how much we can ask our legislators to say, you know, we need to know more here, or we need to have some restrictions there. So it was a question of not necessarily you have to do something, but if you think about it and youre worried, here are some of the steps you can take. So that was sort of where we were. And were, were happy to take any questions. And by the way, she has a lot of [inaudible] and thats why im standing here. [laughter] i just dont want to be sharing the spotlight with him. The other thing, too, if youre in a hurry and you dont have time to read the book and you keep putting it off because youre doing other things, you can flip through it, and we actually have free tools, tips, case studies that weve actually highlighted in sort of a callout box, a text box. So if you dont have time to read the book cover to cover, you can find some of those tips and tools highlighted in the box. But the stories are fun. Yeah, the stories are interesting. A lot of the stories we did actually interview the victims, so we actually talked to victims and actually put the results of the interview, with their permission, in the book. We also interviewed mr. Matherly who developed the showdan tool, has anybody heard of that tool . The risks of the internet of things, you know, we now have refrigerators that talk to the internet, i guess to help you with your grocery order. For those of you who are germ phobic, you can remotely flush your toilet using blue tooth. From your phone. From your phone. And so this internet of things just understand those chips that make it affordable for you to have it in your house and simple to use with woefully unprotected. And it has data about you and your patterns; flushing patterns, food patterns, other patterns. Well, and cameras are included in that too. Yes, and theres also the cameras as well. Yes. It is a brave new world now, and its just going to get more and more extreme in that area. But the one thing that you said that i wanted to point out that our publisher stopped us at one point and said im not sure why youre using all these cases that came, you know, that have been in a lawsuit at one point or another. And that actually was fairly easy, because something that people have to know about us is that we are professional secret keepers. I mean, this is what we do for a living. And so if anybody is looking to read what theresas saying about, you know, dishing dirt at the white house, not going to happen. Nothing. That was erased, actually. Yeah, exactly. [laughter] same thing with me and my clients, a number of whom are creating the internet of things or out there in the banking space or others, we dont talk about that. But one of the reasons we talk about law cases is because its protected. So theres a lot out there that has eventually reached that point where somebodys been mad enough to sue about it. So theres a lot that we cover in there because we can do that, and theres not, you know, nobody can say were taking information. We have a question from sarah. Yes, maam. Ted, i have a question. You talk about lawsuits and stuff like that, and it brings up an idea to me about a whole new area of the law, and how is that emerging . You feel like we need more lawyers . [laughter] no. Oh. [laughter] just trying to im kidding. [inaudible conversations] well, it is, i mean, its interesting because ive been doing this a long time, and ive been doing this since before there were laws in this space. And so there was some responsibility, but a regular talk that i give to businesses right now is what are your data obligations, because everybody has them now. 47 states have passed certain data laws. Kentucky just passed one last month to come into the rest of the world. But its interesting. You have those, you have i mean, californias done things such as almost having a righting to erase your past law on social media if youre or a teenager. God forbid any of us would have said things that we were embarrassed about when we were a teenager. [laughter] and or posted them online. Thats where the california legislatures coming from. [inaudible] is it coming from the legislatures or from the courts . A little bit of both, but theres a lot coming from the states, the state legislatures. We have our good friends across the street here yep. Have been looking at this issue and have 20 or 30 acts in this, statutes in this space that theyre looking at year after year after year, but they havent passed them yet. We actually havent had a broad law in protecting privacy since 1988. Weve had some more specific, industryspecific laws, but nothing broader than that a. And a few things have happened then, since then. A few. Like the new iphone. Exactly. Facebook took on myspace. Google search added google mail. All of that happened since weve enacted these laws. So, obviously, the laws i mean, unless were incredible fortune tellers, didnt really foresee how the internet was going to morph and change. Yeah. And it is changing. Its changing everybodys business because there are things you have to Pay Attention to. And another thing that we cover in the book is that most of the rest of the civilized world looks at the u. S. As a Banana Republic when it comes to privacy, because a lot of places canada, japan, most of europe and others have an objective right to to privacy. And we just, we dont have that at all. We deal on a sectorspecific med. But its very different. And if youre doing business or living in some of the rest of the world, youre, the privacy laws are much, much different. So we learned that from the first book. We had a few people that werent u. S. Based read the first book and say not enough for me, for my country in this book. And so we actually spent quite a bit of time researching iran, syria, china, russia, turkey, israel, a lot of different other countries, the u. K. , canada, and really trying to understand their views on privacy. Whats interesting is they do draw a line thats a little different than how we think about it. So, for example, in the u. K. They see privacy as a right as it relates to businesses collecting your data, but they have no problem snapping your picture everywhere you go in the u. K. Theyre the most photographed citizens in the world. So if youre getting ready to live in another country or do business in another country, youll definitely want to go through the book and look for some of the differences between america and our point of view and those countries and their point of view on privacy. We thought it made it a lot richer to really sort of explore what the whole world is doing and then contrast and compare to what we have. [inaudible] possible globally to wipe out all your social media, anything thats been online . Well, is it possible . Yeah. No, probably not. [laughter] for years the french have talked very seriously, the french have talked about a right to be forgotten. And they actually passed it into law at one point, but they have been unable to enact it. A is Second Chance right. But if you go back to the first book, there are some things you can do to help clean up some of what you have online. And the social Media Companies will even help you to a certain extent with that, and other companies that are putting information out about you may or may not help with it. But [inaudible] reintroduced it. Absolutely. Now, heres the most important part of this, and from a practical standpoint know that i dont remember all the numbers, but it was Something Like 60 of people dont ever go past the first search page, and over 90 or 35 or dont go past page 3. So if you cant get rid of it bury it you can at least bury it. [laughter] not that anyone in here has anything to bury, but your loved ones might. Someone truly motivated might find that kind of thing, but the truth is most people wouldnt. Including hr and University Academic review boards and future potential mothersinlaw. Better watch what you post on facebook. Always. Exactly. Well, and thats i, thats another thing when i talk to groups about this in general, i give a lot of social media ethics talks, and one of my big slides is just simply dont be stupid, you know . I mean, theres a lot of thinking, you know, think before you write because you are publishing. This is a publication. Its going out there, and maybe you can pull it back and maybe not. But you cant count on that. And just because you pull it back doesnt mean somebody else didnt save it or move it on, is and once again right across the street the library of congress is keeping all public tweets. Thats if there isnt a glitch and they get the private tweets too. Which may well happen. But dont you think their so mobile dependent but not savvy about where it goes . They truly believe in passwords that only their friends see things. They do, they do. And they dont realize theres a big Data Warehouse behind the scenes that, yes, on the front side, on the web site thats all you see, and when you delete, its gone for you. Right. But its still back in its sort of like people learned the the hard way with snap khat. The thing expired snapchat. Expires. The only time delete is forever is when your device crashes and you want to recover the data. [laughter] everything else, no, its not forever. Your instagram from your web site to my daughter, and hes like, oh, i dont believe that. One of the really nice things about working with theresa the last couple years on these books is that she has a very deep and really thoughtful knowledge of the way children use the internet ask how to be careful about that and how to be careful about that. One of the things that she has taught me and i now steal mercilessly i cant wait to hear what it [laughter] well, no, its one of your points you always make. When a teenager thinks about privacy, who do you think they want to be private from . You. The parent. And other people they dont think of at all. Its just they want to be private with regard to their parents. And they dont care if everybody else in the world knows it in many cases