The diagnostic plea with the bile markers bio markers. To show that effective treatment. We will end with the personal question directed at me. John asks what advice would you give to a young professional bipolar who wants to be as successful as you . There is all sorts of ugliness. The advice i would give to anyone who has the illness that tries to evade its and the professional world of law does not permit employers to ask about their illnesses during job interviews but i make a practice to always tell someone after word after they dont have the sense to google by david my name. [laughter] that i have a problem it might be required me to miss a day of work now and then. I promise i will be a port influence. I also suggested it is the routine. Including exercise it in a Political Year i would tell you the award for progressives because they are a little more openminded than others these are manageable. With that susceptibility to be a different condition. Like diabetes or hypertension. These can be managed. So in the late 70s people get horrible and factions. And then they would invariably die. And also be highly stigmatized. Iran and that advocacy was so compelling and financially before that hiv virus was isolated and then the treatment was introduced. So rock hudson was diagnosed with aids and in 1991 Magic Johnson i saw him on tv the of the day so it is a matter to get good treatment so that variation of quality of Care Everywhere is more variability in the field because sellas the develop field. If you do that it should help immeasurably. With that we will say faq to dr. Lieberman. [applause] just a reminder as a special thank you to justin and bader to remind everybody to get your book signed. And there are some refreshments outside. Family will continue the conversation. Don behalf of the entire staff thanks for coming. Some quick administrative notes now is the time to turn off your cellphone. When we get to the q a make your way to the microphone so we have the you to channel ancs bin booktv so we can hear your question and use the microphone. And before you commit to get your books tonight your books mind something that looks like it wont topple over. In this evening we will hear about a remarkable true story that hasnt been told before that is called the worlds most successful men hunt targeted 161 individuals in connection with the balkan conflict of the 1990s but that is with the term ethnic cleansing was first used with the wholesale slaughter taking place in the heart of europe so those responsible were identified in the indicted by the International Criminal tribunal of the of former yugoslavia. The first time that a global court was established to pursue war criminals to engage in a more substantial hunt. By 2011 all 161 of those indicted have thank captured or killed or surrendered or committed suicide. A manhunt was conducted in secret mostly. To involve special forces, the spy agencys even the tracking unit but the subsequent trials have set a precedent how authorities can bring justice to those responsible for mass atrocities and other crimes against humanity. Experienced british journalists has pieced together this amazing story going on more then 200 interviews to obtain access to a secret British Government document. To live in sarajevo in the mid90s. And then to return to the balkans to report don kozak go. And then to be part of the team of the 2014 for a pulitzer for coverage of the Edward Snowden files. The butchers trail has received favorable reviews with a gripping narrative style. Calling the book he visited page turning account to say the fascinating tale is difficult to put down in the reeds of the best written of the true climb. Prime. [applause]. Banks for having me here in in they referred to in the ad said distinguished and then i went prematurely gray in my early thirties. And the press took a leap of faith to publish this book and they didnt realize how big a leap with a payback in said wire there so many names ending with ic . [laughter] but under european politics then i saw a number to was is hitler. But what the publisher said that there are too many names but it says so much about the problem of the west and western intervention. So because so many ended with ic it seems, gated it was my hope to break through that barrier for what is of mass atrocities and international to ministerial law that is one of the toughest problems in Foreign Policy then into now and afterwards for my colleagues who are there we were astonished when there were 64,000 troops in bosnia and they did go after these people that were indicted for some of the worst crimes they actually made a point of avoiding. And that policy lead changed just after i left the region , but i kept tabs to gather momentum in then finally i wrote a magazine piece with the u. N. Mission that would be completed with 161 names on the list. And then they finally completed it. But then it occurred to me that what became of the evidence there is a much bigger story that hasnt been told. With a sprawling mansion and. If you talk intelligence in special forces in the late 90s up through 9 11 then more them like the day would have been involved in the was the biggest deployment of forces from rand 11 but it was buried under layers of secrecy. But was interrupted by 9 11 with all the attention focused with the war on terror which the men hunt directly had assayed way for those that are looking for those war criminals went to deftest in immediately. For those that were interested picked up the jordanian and egyptian would no the first people tune suffer the rendition to their respective countries. I find it hard to what would happen since. But that is an extraordinary story story and from the beginning specifically with the war crimes tribunal that was of mixed Multinational Team under the United Nations flag of a group of people brought together to serve, an american diplomat journal. In this elaborate operation was concocted to lure one of them over the border to be arrested. But they did without the knowledge or the approval of and this is dangerous but what a bunch of u. S. Officials of the untried polish soldiers. So they set up the jury to feet or original idea thought and then pick up everybody in the same time. More if they created an operation did release so scared the chief and a french but he bush called to paris is a given the deep rift with the firm but but then to be looking for so that if you dont want any trouble steady area. But did in the you wound who had been sexually assaulted. And put them in the end results but i never knew that very rich Member Relations for the following year. Did you have the un but then to take there First Casualty is. Put in every one was shipped dash then told to leave after those politicos hinges but the. Is genocide and every day he was at liberty to question in the promises of sitting in judgment. The feature characteristic was put it could be rage if he tendered inundate friend ron stick there is the but of that somewhat old eccentric have lives in ripostes but helping with chronic diseases. In the role live altered if listened endangering to run but it angeles halfway to the croatian border but there is the clearing discrepancy that they had the same date of birth and a look like nothing like that in all figure piffle construction worker that grew tomatoes he rarely strayed more than 5 miles from his birthplace in his entire life. The records show small lee was born in the 40s. So what of the steuben was clearly in the impostor. All other aspects did not match him as a spiritual healer in to campaign against the tribunal. And to hang around take a closer look. The officer returned with a startling suggestion led the reach parity if you were watched . The fugitive in. They said the alarm in then enter the damage of them are big. Just like the old man getting ready to run. Not unlike the blood church but now all in the last minute there is a riding. But to is clear headed spiritual extent in the bid then to go to the front into the back then they make their way to the sea to pose and asking for tickets for the old period with the straw hat was reaching into his pocket when he felt the grip. Said he said the policeman to insisted. But then 9 30 p. M. On july july 18 but in his. But three years later stick to a tremendous step in this career but their homes and then they were seventh highest to learn said the interim peace had to be accompanied by some measure. But inouye for those that could be unlearned and the strait of the icc in National Criminal court that has the legacy of that hate tribunal to be undermined that it cannot function in africa which is a problem of itself but it is a demonstration of International Humanitarian law because in a way the growth of isis or dsedh but this book has any policy perfect purpose supporter that humanitarian law but has been done and it has worked. [applause] questions . Looking at the situation in 20 years out to what do you think of the situation in general with the refugee crisis, do you think there is a possibility it could happen again and this time spread . You are right to 20 years later it is a depressing sight. The pretax into the war strangle the peace to take those ethnic lines and make it difficult to compete politically to fly the flag that has deepened the division that has contributed to the highest Unemployment Rate anywhere in the world and no. Lead to war because europe is had enough of that for this time. But then to let a player out again the doesnt mean everything is fine. It is remarkable to me that there are not more. That the citizens live in this situation to be denied by their neighbors theyre not love to talk about what has happened. It amazes me there isnt a bigger jihadist threat to try to have heightened production videos to recruit people. It may not be war like but it wont be pretty. I teach at georgetown why is the United States so antia icc . Is still full so much promise for me. Do you have the insight as why it is in such a position for the success . But to find in his last days of office life and show a promise is and it is hard to say one of the first things i did they went so far to one sign that. They must never come a time when an american was safe so with their own statutes to set up the icc with the safeguard but the mood of the administration is why should we take the risk . But then that price means is you pay the price but you know, those prospects of ratification over any major treaty. Good to see you again. Why did it take so long to get the whole process . We were there. Maybe there was an added to the badness so why did the whole process takes so long . That is a good question. Glading it is hard to go back to that military mindset after so much is built off largely pointless conflicts to see how risk averse the military was back then. They said if you are a general the chances to get the extra star were minimal. So for that reason the u. S. Forces to cave part of that peacekeeping use bait played baseball in their flak jackets. But not just the United States but to risk casualties that was not specifically mandated in the peace agreement. And it took a year and a half. Translator queue for your presentation. To look at the perpetrators of the victims with the genocide how did they respond to this mass planting . With these war criminals . And did very much depended on to. But most bosnia axes were right behind it with the civilian casualties so they were pretty much in support. But then having just been independence they thought they were composite but what changed was the arrival of the people who saw the future but also pointed to draw a line for those responsible for those atrocities and the people as a whole. So the way to get out of that in to him in the over. They explore coming. I was the american commander in bosnia. We were not smart enough to do what was done in one year later. It took the whole institution a long time to figure that out. And the visitors ask if it is the american sector. With over the headquarters is. Now i could destroy the guy didnt militants and a sort out who is left then if he is there i will hindi the body. But you have to do a better. The second point is having spoken senior american political leaders there wasnt one political directive the only thing i really take exception it isnt up to the generals what they do but the government to tell the generals. To sacrifice the democracy if you would put yourself in a position while the generals were making political decisions. I dont excuse us for not being smarter but i do think it is a good idea to listen to the president of the United States. The election in reinstates there is absolutely no will power at all. After that they had a principals meeting that this is something that we ought to do. But between that time there was a lot of internal institutional resistance but if we have casualtys we will be the one to blame. That said you have someone in and with that backlash. Thanks for the book hit your outstanding reporting on the book. There was a iran informed but the human rights activist is the principal actors were given immunity. But the second is that you hear that when they are talking. But never able to commit themselves in any way. [laughter] but they did have two pilots that were captured in the long drawnout negotiations. Id and moneychanger ians but he said that they understood me the glove but he think the court has been successful or luis . But they have not cover them in their full glory. We will just say he suggests those that try to face. But but that toll was unthinkable. Go ahead. Is there ace and so maybe the very likely there struggling and the documents and to go through them to prove the case but he knew the world to agree. By necessity its operations when they were occurring and to. But the experience was to get you before rejection. Put the end but for people who seek but ultimately have had moments where thought but there are a that take that view. Any more questions . [applause] [inaudible conversations] 62 through 64 tell us why you chose that. I wanted to honor the city so boattail and motown with that and legendary a hundred dollar loan that berry gordy got and had a fund that they used to help each other i want to say early motown because of the energy of that time so that famous walk to freedom in 63 in the automobile the rightabout to be a mustang but then it was unveiled at the worlds fair in 1964. And i wanted to start with the long so the first watertown review it is an incredible busload of talent was Smokey Robinson and the supremes. They werent even making it yet. That say week of the Detroit Auto Show that is the beginning in may of 64 but but the medicine and johnson comes to detroit and then goes to an arbor to the incandescent period