That was very much like saudi arabia also where there was no Musical Instruments you dont have Musical Instruments and you dont sing. And they probably still do. But i was invited to the american embassador took me to the Welfare Service they call the at the Welfare Service but most of the people were americans or caribbean and at that time. Said there were a lot of koreans in that service. Host if your jewishamerican are you allowed it and it . Yes. Not the jerusalem correspondent on the latest trip but yes there are Jewish Americans to get into saudi arabia without any particular difficulty. Because with the profits time jews and christians were seen as people of the book. They did not have as much problem and the saudis today to have a much greater problem with the shia muslims and christians or jews. We rank pretty low down but not nearly as low as the shia because there heretic sam polluting islam. We are not. We are believers. And finally you have the analogy of the 747 . What is that analogy. The country is like a 747 filled with geriatric pilots meaning the first class full of a prince who would be king and the rest of the Playing Field to return the plane around to end crash and somewhere on board the pilot that can safely landed the plane but will never get a chance in the metaphor is to simply say there are saudis who can lead the country but whether the rate peopled get a chance or not remains to be seen. Host of saudi arabia is her book. Here is the cover. Booktv is on vacation at Pepperdine University. Host you are watching booktv nazis been to of location malibu california at Pepperdine University we like to visit universities and colleges to talk to professors who were also offers. Were talking to the author of igods here is the book cover but before we get into that what duties jeopardized . I am a film maker first so i teach his screenwriting, of production in helping to navigate the entertainment industry. Host also a director for the center for its entertainment is part of your professorship . A think tank how media and culture impact each other of bullseyes hall film and shapes the public conversation to figure out the greater good. Talk about christianity and culture . As a theologian i have always been interested in how religious feelings are transmitted across culture i have been moved by moving pictures so a this is in a chance with that small screen takes over the big screen. Host but also with a jet . Train wreck thats right. By lookit these companies that have overtaken our lives whether apple or google or facebook for a amazon those are the big four at this point spending so many hours on their devices or of their flat form i wanted to figure out when they build the software how does that affect our relationship to each other and . God. We see god reflected in the chair but technology is the better your right next to a picture of jesus. [laughter] he has whole world in his hands is what we were thinking. [laughter] laugh. One of the air early editors of wired magazine the yet comes from the position of faith so he looks set technology have reorganize lives and how engineers structural things to talk about the always that got to be the original technologist looking at the dna that human genome project that was headed up to what degree is that information in our bodies a reflection . Are rewired or imported in an organized fashion and what role does god played in all of that . Host are you worried, we spent on technology . As a parent÷ppppppix÷ asset 12 4 yearold we have a lot of technology and the day they said i have a cell phone i had to think what does put a a smart phone and do . Them how to deal with the went. The monks invented the clock as a way to order the day to understand there is a time for work, time for prayer, time for food and i feel like now we allow our smart bombs to dictate the hours of our day and i wonder if our relationship is too intense if our closest companion and do we need to turn it off occasionally to take back the power in our lives . To power down or power up. Host to you power down . Guest yes. We love to leave our phones will live in california. The be the temptation is to take that to the beach but that is to be time away tuesday it and not be interrupted to wonder with the need for space in our lives. To make room to be surprised by what is in front of us rather than what is telling us what is next. Host is that tough to do . Guest it is very hard to separate ourselves from technology i have an assignment in class asking students to put it away for 24 hours their laptops coming computers Even Television and it drives them crazy. Play parents will panic and wonder what i am doing. But yet what they discover is they may begin the activity feeling that way but then they make space with more clarity and focus then they do one week so komer can one afternoon because they can concentrate on one thing instead of being fragmented. Host other students who can do it . Theyre all supposed to. [laughter] some confess how hard it is they may have sneaked over picked up but what i find it is remarkably they are relieved and a little bit three from this always beckoning them. And they start to wonder maybe if it is the electronic sabbath to put pods on our lives on a regular basis. Host craig teeeighteen can you be a good christian and still be tech focused . I am on facebook and handed twitter nobody interacts with social media more than i do but i just tried to appreciate the people like steve jobs the and engineers said google in soccer berg who have redefined our world solving the problems of abundance they help us to bring order to the chaos wife still feels a little chaotic. And to what degree to recognize the limits what can and cannot do for us. Host to know the significance of stayed in jeff did not know their fathers . You have such talented in superior driven people behind these companies. Why is it outpull ora amazon was so relentless your restless . It is interesting that they did not know their fathers. Ive gotta since they all become our fathers of technology with a relentless pursuit. I respect them. Host there is a sub chapter. What is the problem . W