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But the point of the presidency was to act seriously with speed but it to congress can write things and states are there. We can write laws to purchase the al long as there is known our mission in anything. What the framers set up has been turned upsidedown with the theft to show powers in native decision. Using it on domestic matters that is your next book. [laughter] comeback. Faq. Don the weekend decision the authors sharing their roots in beijing have the at the mtv wien. I am a fan fran. University of wisconsin professor. But it is not settled. But its i thought math was a search and she ended formulaic tuesday one plus one equals two battle times . We can agree on that but it is much more. Many thousands of years old there never has been a culture of civilization but in many ways theyre still wrestling with the question in we have expanded to a large extent. Why dont we know . We have known for thousands of years numbers like two and five and seven and 13 cannot be factored. So it could go on and on forever increase steadily get closer and closer. And we might find out tomorrow we might never find out. What does it matter . Do they serve a purpose . It is the great question. Thaw and it seems to describe the basic structure of the way things are. So any individual mathematical fact will that cure cancer . Probably not and i cannot tell you if it were that the history has shown us to always bring massive advances to things that were developed by mathematicians teeseven. How did you come up with the title . I had that long before i wrote that. To remember them onetime monty python sketch. Because they would attract people to stand up with the british humor in some sense the real reason is the one people to think about mathematics but quite honest but it isnt every mathematical object was created in one of the things and try to do in the book is take these mathematical things and realize minded people not understand . What is the pythagorean theorem solve . If you have the right triangle and then to go the other side if you are building a structure if it is it slanted to build a crossbeam you do need to know how much would you would need. That is more theoretical than what i worked in the day job. And then breaking it in and austria. Working at the Economics Institute at world war ii with the topsecret math statistics lag. That there was such a thing there were statisticians is a group of generals who say we have noticed that the planes are coming back to fly the missions over germany they are hit more in if you so i gin glass in the engine and. How much more armor should reap what of the planes . How much more heavier . Fouquets if you put too much it will not apply or not to too little is not safe. Is there a mathematical formula . But this is weird with that position of the general why you telling me to do the exact opposite . It is thats the ones that are not to back that they were not shot in the engine. But they didnt give them a a formula for that was deeply mathematical. It is about understanding in taking a a question of the functions that underlie that question. To give answers pretty easy. That is what mathematical thinking is about. You talk about the al laugher curve first of all, what is it and is a mathematically distensible . Yes. And i defend that. The story probably not true but too good not to tell is called the of laughter curve that was drawn on a napkin was a wellknown conservative and the laughter curve says of the tax rate is o then the government will not get any tax money but also if the tax rate was 20 if every penny that you earn is taken then they will lose the work or hide it in the gathering gets no revenue. Somewhere in between but that curve that is having to have the maximum but you have to believe on this side of the curb increasing taxes brings government revenue down instead of the. Laffer was the economists in 2015 he was wrong about where we were but right of the general picture that at some point so high a reduces the taxes that the government gets. Stephen p. Comes up. He comes as a social scientist and i was struck by the most recent book to find out that in many ways to turn the frontpage over because i dont want to ask a lot of questions. But it is much safer and more pleasant and peaceful now. That while the have these horrible evens they are also much bigger with the percentage of the worlds People Better killed or injured by a calamity. So this is a very interesting question. Do use the other calamity that, it it kills 10,000 but are they the same . It is an interesting question because it mixes now off in the general sentiments there is no formula on the energy and to think quantitatively what are we doing if you try to measure that scale whether a Natural Disaster or a war . A think stephen pindar appears in your chapter. What is that about . That chapter refers to the very common practice that something bad happens people tried to convey their sense of it. And the collision of 20,000 and Climate Change to say with 15 billion, alleges that . Intended have been so far away what is the equivalent thank . Med is like 500 americans. So it is a great example to set off the map to get denser with that dicey territory will he listen to the words coming in in your mouth is the great example chigoe go hand in hand. With that general common sense. Host we use that statistic quite a bit . Isnt that the point of your book . How much lying is with statistics . I think there is. And many think they just try to pull over your eyes but i do think most bad statistics that the large majority of the time that is somebody who has fooled themselves. But to find away to enlist the data to there, as. But then they keep themselves. Host we talk today of income inequality. How do you look at that as a mathematician and . Have a delicate to do different societies have a dealer to get the same society in different periods of time how has inequality change . I dont think there is any dispute so basically that is pretty clear. A sum they sit down at the blackjack table should take two hours or 10 hours mathematically . Day saint i have been to a table once in my life i lost 20 bucks and it took me four seconds. I didnt have enough capital for either. [laughter] host i and is asking a question he talked about dealing. Because once again people have moral feelings and mathematical feelings and Everybody Knows that for most circumstances gambling is not a wise investment probably playing blackjack is not the most revenue enhancing choice you could make. With the most popular game there is is to play the lottery. Is so why do so the people do that . And the crazy story from that of massachusetts with a quirk that theyve made a lot of money. But the question is for people in july 80th leonel lottery they hope to win but there is an argument you can get certain amount of a determined at a beach ticket that is obviously it is dangerous territory to talk about quantify, you are having versus how many dollars so i and though one hand if you traded dollars for fun and all the time a bird but i will go to this movie a cost of dollars i will not go if it cost five i will. The flyer certainly making these kinds of comments all the time the utility of safety because they dont like that feeling to be unsafe. En that quite item that is assigned a numerical values. Who is this stockbroker . Because of mathematical folklore and heres what happened. It ina stocks tepper it may go up next week u. S. It is a scheme but you do see the stock did go lot. Then you get another newsletter in the mail that is sinking if you have then sell it. Just as a stock broker predicted it went down. Another week goes bayou get another tip then another. It predicts the emotion they ready to give him your life savings. What you dont know on the first he got the newsletter 500 said the stock would go up in 505 said it led go down for golf if they did never hear from them again but to the under 50 get the stock will go up or down. If it comes down to just you you are lucky he was completely convinced you just need one sukkur on the line. What is enough. It ended symbolize is mathematically they cannot always make a good interest from the federation in front of you. But this is all the chances he had it is amazing. Had is to get the stock tips in a row . O lot of things can happen if you give yourself enough chances. Host big data with mathematics. But to make it to another hour but but mathematically that is no more. But what is interesting what we have now with social and the merck said Internet Networks we have a lot of stuff. It is that it is structured of networks of people, a geographic structures structures, mathematicians. Butted is an incredibly exciting time just to figure out how you make sense of the spreadsheet . We have to figure out how to interpret those numbers and we dont know yet. I think a lot of people have an interest to understand