You know these people. David axelrod author of believer. [applause] kristin mcceery member of the Chicago Tribune editorial board. [applause] Clarence Paige is columnist and member of the tribune editorial board, author of culture warrior. My former, first knight city weekend editor at the Chicago Tribune . He is so youthful you wouldnt believe it. You too david. You are surrounded people still gainfully employed by the Chicago Tribune. Unlike thefy who left 30 years ago. You have to be sitting there thinking what might have been. Could have been asking myself these questions. He wouldnt take my advice. David, you have a great future in newspapers. Well, i love my time at the tribune. I was really glad you cleared out to run the paul simon campaign. I got to cover the paul simon campaign. Baptism much political coverage in the state. I do want to take a moment, before we talk all the politics of you just come from delaware. As we sit here the funeral mass being set for bowe biden. I beau biden. He was a splendid guy in splendid family. I wrote about the book, my First Encounter with beau and biden family and struck by their relationships. Everyone in the country is grieving with them this morning. We would be remiss if we didnt note his passing. Do you have a sense of how he is coping . It is difficult, you know. I mean, everyone knows the history. He almost lost beau once. He lost his wife and child in that same accident. And beau was the son everyone hopes they would have. I mean. He was a great father son veteran. He did public service. And he did it with integrity. And he just a lovely, lovely person so, i just cant imagine, you know, how one copes with that, but you know we are faced with these things in life and you just have to go on. Joe biden when the president made the decision with your advice on choosing joe biden, it was seen unusual choice at the time. Can you give us a sense of how that relationship is built over the years six, seven years . I will say that, we considered 30 people for the vicepresident ial nomination. There was a process. But, and it began in may of 2008 when it became pretty clear that senator obama was going to be the nominee. The first thing he said was, you know we should go through this process but im really focused on joe biden. The reason he was focused on biden, there was number of them one, biden had the years in washington he didnt have. He had vast, vast history in foreign policy. He was from delaware, but he was native of pennsylvania and reached into a state we thought was going to be important thing was. He has been through national campaigns, national politics, he understands this maelstrom. The interesting thing about it is that, im already violating my rule, clarence. Thats all right. The interesting thing about it is, that when sarah palin was chosen, we were on the plane leaving denver in 2008 and it came across on our blackberries, i ran up to the front of the plane where the bidens and obamas were riding. I grabbed obama he picked sarah palin. Obama went through all the things in his head. Why did he do that. Interesting. You know what, he said . Being, being in this National Media frenzy is hard. I was terrible, i think im reasonably smart. It took me six months to get used to it. She could be the greatest politician since Ronald Reagan coming out out out of alaska handle all of this. I give it four weeks and well know whether this was a good idea or not. Four weeks to the day she did that interview with katie couric so by the way biden came bounding up in middle of this conversation. He said, whats up . He picked sarah palin for Vice President. He said what a lot of america was saying, who is sarah palin . The relationship between them, it wasnt close when he chose biden. He was impressed with the way biden handled himself in the campaign and debates and so on. When we went to see biden i wrote about this, the first thing biden said, was, you know, i ran for president because i thought i would be the best president. I still think that. I didnt win i got no delegates and he win be the nominee. I want barack to succeed. A year into the administration, biden called me into his office and closeddoor. Remember that conversation . Yeah. I was wrong. The right guy run. Im really proud to be working for him. They are very, very close. Personal friends. I think their relationship is probably as warm as any between a president and Vice President ive seen in my lifetime. 2016 well get everybody in. Abc Washington Post poll, Hillary Clinton 49 unfavorable. 55 unfavorable with independents. 52 of the public say she cant be trusted. David, if this was eight years ago you would be licking your chops. Why isnt there another obama candidate ready to take her on . These are different times. First of all understand, you have to look closely at these polls. Were at very polarized country. She is now being viewed as the punitive nominee. She is being seen through a very partisan lens. So her numbers among democrats have not eroded at all. So when people say, gee what does this mean, i think it means, not much relative to her being the nominee of the Democratic Party. It means that were going to have, you know, well have, what has become typically difficult general election but democrats are favored in that regard. My view of hillary, when we, when she was not the right candidate in 2008, because i think people look for the remedies to what they had. They never look for the rep flickca. Barack obama was starkest antidote to george w. Bush. He was reflective and deliberative where people saw bush as impulsive. He was not seen then as a partisan figure. There were a well range of reasons for it. Hillary, he was not a washington person. I think now people are looking for someone maybe a little less deliberative, a little less ponderous. I say that, i have unending respect for him. And theyre going to be looking for someone who can manage or maybe navigate washington rather than someone who promises to change washington. Clarence, will Hillary Clinton run as the remedy to barack obama . In so many words but im not of course that directly remember eight years ago now i was predicting the nominees would be Hillary Clinton and rudy giuliani. So people are not running to me for predictions. [laughter]. Who would you like to kiss off today . Take somebody out. You remember those eight years ago. That was conventional wisdom though. Predict George Pataki. Today im still hanging in with Hillary Clinton and jeb bush. So both of them are going to worry now im sure. But it is remarkable, that, bushs approval by the way sunk again this week. Just before, he is about to announce his candidacy. But that seems to be the way this campaign is building up though. Contest between who you dislike the most. Or the least. But anyway, what was your question again . Kristen, you caught up with rand paul a couple weeks ago. He is in chicago. Does he look like he got a lot of attention over at nsa patriot act filibuster does he look like somebody that would could be a surprise republican. I dont think so. He is polling 7 . I like him he is very direct. One the few people will talk about the need, nothing is sacrosanct. We need to cut the defense budget. He has been reprimanded by Reince Priebus talking about the Republican Partys brand sucks. Those are his words. I would agree with that to an extent. No i see jeb bush and scott walker. I think scott walker his appeal is hanging in there. He is tested and i see, there are groaning in the audience. Was like wretching. [laughter] and applause. Will be a line dance. Yeah. So no, i dont see rand paul being anything other than kind of somebody who would stir the pot to be interesting person during the debates. Can i make a point as we sit here in june the year before the election. I want to mention these names. I want you guys to answer what they have in common. Donald trump herman cain, newt gingrich, Rick Santorum rick perry and mitt romney. Is that new rork band youre putting together . If so, i dont like my chances but no, these are all people who led a Public Opinion poll in the year before the election. Right. I guess santorum was in the following year. Newt gingrich was completely written off at this point in 2011. He became, a competitive candidate. Partly because of this system we have now if you get somebody to write a huge check you can hang in there. But, i think we overvalue polling at this juncture, and my view of rand paul is that i think that in a field of, you know thousands of republican candidates or at least dozens that he is going to be, i think he is, as likely as inanyone to do well in New Hampshire in iowa because he has distinctive brand in a crowded field. The question is, as time goes on, when the field winnows down, does that represent the majority of the republican electorate . I dont think it does. I think likely to do well at beginning and get crushed in the end. The other guy who you left off your list getting favorable note marco rubio doing very well as he moves around. Having discounted the polls i say he doing well in the polls. My view under my replica remedy theory another young kind of, exotic sounding namewise senator is not likely to be elected president of the United States. Could be nominated i guess. But im sort of with you clarence. So, people will run from you because you made the wrong predictions in 2008 but im sure all the republicans will be enthusiastic when i embrace their candidacies. Jumping for joy im sure. Is this beginning to be a money marathon though . That is why Hillary Clinton and jeb bush are sew focused on raising money, they have to go farther down the take to say in the race remember why mitt romney won the nomination in 2012. He won it largely because he had a super pac that mode down all the republican opponents cereally along the way. Jeb bush by all accounts will have exponentially more money in his super pac which he has been raising in the beginning than did romney. It is a reflection on how screwed up our finance system is for campaigns that jeb bush, who is clearly been running for president since last year will formally announce june 15th. Why . Because it allowed him to raise money for his super pac once he become as candidate he cant coordinate with the super pac but in the interim he was able to coordinate, raise money into the super pac he will have a lot of it. I think that will make a difference for him down the line. Des Moines Register poll, jeb bush 45 unfavorable. Who wants to argue for the inevitability of jeb bush. Im hanging in there. [laughter]. On record. I didnt hear any hissing for jeb bush. Try that scott walker. Jeb bush. Okay. Lower hiss level. There you go. I wonder Rick Santorum won iowa caulks in 2012 and Mike Huckabee won them in 2008. Im not sure Iowa Caucuses are determinative. Martin omalley . Crickets. Who is that . What about Bernie Sanders here . [applause] now i think we know where we are with the audience. I will keep my mouth mostly shut. Were coming to a Literary Festival you see. Bernie is kind of a literary figure. There you go. Clarence, once a font of midwestern sensibility before you left for d. C. , now youre font of d. C. Sensibility. D. C. Sensibility sounds like an oxymoron. You got that right. What is chance of john kasich coming out of ohio as spring state and surprising that field . Ohio is my native state. I know john kasich since we were at at grateful dead concert years ago. I can tell you he has great potential. Here is the thing about reason why i say that because i think, as you alluded earlier once you get past the early primaries, it is a question of who can go the distance. You get into, well, the electorate becomes more moderate in the primaries the larger states step in. This is where jeb bush has the best chance. I think john kasich or a walker. These folks are more middle of the road and less flamboyant have a better shot at it. Im just wondering, kasich wasnt going to do it until he saw jeb bush doing so poorly. Now he is more encouraged to raise his profile. Whether he will actually declare though remains to be seen but great thing about it, here is a republican governor who tried what walker did insofar undercutting the unions and got his changes rolled back by referendum. Brushed it off the people have spoken. He is now allowed the expansion of medicare excuse me, Medicaid Expansion in his state, one of the few republican governors to do that which just angered the right. But it is delighted his own voters in his own state and his approvals have gone up now from you know numbers better than me, david, somewhere around he was below 30 and now he is above 50. Got reelected handily. Reelected handily. This is important state. No republican won the white house Clarence Page with that. Thank you. I grew up in John Boehners district. So i know the place. No republican gone to the white house without winning without carrying ohio. And i think there is something about that state that does make it important bellwether. Having said all that, good luck to kasich and the other buckeyes even though im an Ohio University bobcat. Go ahead. I should have stayed at the paper. Should. We got a spot for you. Youre matching uniforms. So it is a Hillary Clinton wins kristen does she have coattails in illinois . Weve got number one target u. S. Senate rate, mark kirks seat. That will be coming up. Does hillary have impact in illinois favorable to Tammy Duckworth or whoever comes out of a primary to challenge him. I think she does. One of the best cases that a writer, i think it was somebody from National Review online might have been jonah goldberg, listing reasons why she is so formidable, number one that first woman issue. I think more she comes and helps candidates like Tammy Duckworth i think definitely at the top. Ticket will make a difference in the races here. I just want to go backward for a second. I agree she will run well in illinois. On the nominating know in my book wrote about the gauntlet for running for president of the United States. It is really unimaginable the pressures. They dont start off that way. Hard from the beginning. But every time you clear a bar the bar pets raised and gets harder and harder as it should because youre auditioning for the most difficult job on the planet. And, i think one of the reasons why these polls are very hard to interpret in the long run because they cant they dont reflect how someone will perform under pressure. They dont reflect how someone will handle the pressure when the bar gets raises. This is my question about all of them in some ways, but of scott walker, who has played in a, in a rough venue but a small venue. Tends to be very tactical. And, whether he can rise and clear that bar, i think he may. But i think it is an open question. The same is true with rubio and all of the others. In that sense, being a bush and a clinton as much as we disdain this notion of dynasties having had the experience of being around all of that, and understanding those pressures, is advantageous. I got bad news for you. Whats that . We lost jon cusack, the president is. Oh, i see. The left is kind of down on your guy lately. Jon cusack was quoted saying he was worst than george w. Bush. When you talk about drones, nsa, Civil Liberties attacks on journalism and whistleblowers he is as bad or worse than bush. Glad to see democrats are returning to their natural state of chaos and internal arguments. Why is the president seem to be losing the left . Well, again i would point to i would look at polling on him and his numbers, are holding know fairly well. Not fairly well. Very well. He has strong support look. I have enormous regard for jon cusack as an actor. [laughing] but when youre president of the United States you have to, you have, just enormous responsibilities and you have to make hard decisions. In my book, just go, i keep referring back to it, shamelessly promote it but i wrote about the night before the inauguration when rahm emanuel was the chief of staff coming in. He called me and called me on a hardline. He said there has been a bonafide threat on the inauguration and he explained to me what the concern was a terrorist threat. He asked me to write a 60second speech for the president that he could give at, if he had to disperse the inaugural ceremonies. Give it to him in the speakers office. He said, dont tell you cant tell anyone, not even your family. I mean my wife and son went off in the morning. I was going to do television. They went off to, to go to Church Services with the obamas and the bushes and i was so want to tell them not to go because i thought if something happened how would i live with that for the rest of my life. I was sworn not to say anything. Happily it turned out not to have come to pass that there was an attack on the inauguration but, it was a real reminder that was kind of welcome to the nba moment about what the presidency really is. You know, you have to balance all of these interests. I sat in a room with barack obama and civil libertarians for an hour of off the record discussion in which tea you canned about that he talked about that and talked about balances different factors that you dont have to balance if youre jon cusack. [laughter] [applause] ask me followup question. Certainly. Criticisms of barack obama from the left since he became president. Honestly before he became president , he was not unfirstal choice on the left. John edwards ran to the left of barack obama. Certainly Hillary Clinton did in 2008. Yeah. After he became president there were complaints from from me included negotiation over budget. Ive been meaning to talk to you about that. Well, i will be happy over your favorite beverage i will be delighted. Your choice, mannys or billy goat. But the, well budget negotiations, various other issues down the line. Health care, singlepayer, i could list off the litany that my son who worked for obamas campaign back in 08 and ran into that usual twoyear disillusionment of the young when campaigning et cetera. Go ahead. Thoroughly understand it, but, clarence, lets just take health care as an example. Right. I was there during that whole period and as you know, health care almost died a thousand deaths. We got the health care. We got as much as we were going to get. We couldnt get a public option in the health care plan. It wouldnt have passed the senate. So you know, i think part of the problem is, there was this notion that barack obama got elected president , that the seas would part and everything would it would everything would be, every wrong would be righted. Every, every program that we ever imagined would be, and that never was true. And i think you know but you did a good job of selling it. [laughter] that was the brand in 2008, wasnt it . Outsider coming in and peace making and compromise and never happened. You know what . You know what . Seven president s tried to do health reform. Seven president s failed, by dint commitment to get it done got it done. I have now close to 34yearold daughter. [applause] i have a, i have a, i have close to 34yearold daughter who you know, when she was seven months old she started having seizures. I was working at the tribune. We couldnt stop the seizures for 19 years. I was making whatever we were making then but it wasnt much. And, paying 10,000 outofpocket even though i had insurance to pay for her medical care and when, and we so we were almost among those who went bankrupt, okay . So the night that the Health Care Bill passed i cried. I went. Because i knew that there were families that wouldnt have to go through what my family went to. Mr. President , on behalf of all families that wont have to go through what i went through. He put his hand on my shoulder. That is why we do the work. [applause] to tell you it is fine, to say gee, i wish we had singlepayer. If you are one of those families who have coverage, you dont have that luxury and youre happy that you have it. Any of you what happens in the Supreme Court blow as big hole in obamacare now rules on the state exchanges, rates are, for next year are going up . Kristen, do you see any prospect congress would finally say well get over the well come up with some kind of agreement to preserve coverage . You have connections there. I mean, i would like to see the republicans do that. Weve been waiting for replace that they will actually act on for a long time, but even in our state, were still waiting to see what the rates are in illinois. The department of insurance has been very quiet about what those rates are going to be. Were not really seeing the full rollout of obamacare even yet in this state and elsewhere. So, if the Supreme Court does come down and repeal that, i would be it will be incumbent even more than it has opinion on the republicans to actually get something through that saves the remnants of obamacare that they agree work. But it is, it is hard to put your faith in this congress. I mean they just obstruct, obstruct obstruct. Look at what Immigration Reform, we talk about some of the reasons that obama is not as popular with the left. I mean, we had bipartisan agreement for an Immigration Reform bill that was comprehensive, dealt first with Border Security that had the support of people like Lindsey Graham and then the House Republicans failed to take it up. So it is hard for me to have any faith they will do something substantive. Clarence . What was the question . What are the prospects of some kind of agreement on obamacare to preserve health care if the Supreme Court knocks a big hole in it. I have great faith in the republicans for, stepping forth to come up with something. Theyre getting a great break right now of not being pressured to come up with an alternative to obamacare because currently, it is in force so they can criticize it. If it does get taken away by the Supreme Court or undermined, then they will wear the onus of having been opposed to it all along, folks say what is the alternative . The longer it is even ted cruz said this before obamacare went into effect, once it goes into effect, people get used to it, they will like it and not want it to go away. There are 16 to 20 Million People Getting Health Care through that program. Many of them who had preexisting conditions. There are all kinds of beneficiaries. Young people who are who are getting insurance on their parents, young adults. There are a whole range of folks benefiting from that program. What you will see, the republicans if the Supreme Court, and i dont think the Supreme Court will uphold the challenge but, if they do, i think you will see the Republican Party do a patch that will get them through the next election. Want to ask you all why obamas political success has not been democrats success. This looked like a really interesting question. [laughter] story on sunday i hadnt heard about. All right. The republicans control the senate and the house. They control 31 governorships. They control 68 of 98 state chambers. Nearly half of americans live in states under total republican control. Peter whenner wrote New York Times the obama years have been politically good for mr. Obama, they have been disasterous for his party. I think what has been difficult for our party was that he took office at a time of abject disaster. We were, we were in the midst of the worst economic crisis since the great depression. He had to make a series of decisions each of which were unpopular at the time as necessary, including save the American Auto industry, which everyone now looks like great idea, but not then. He faced a wall of opposition that cast him as much more partisan figure. He by the way his ratings are, significantly better than george w. Bushs were at this time, so i dont know, i read the pete wenner column. It was an interesting column. It played hillary for going flay e. D. Hillry going so far left she could be against the trade agreement that the president is promoting but doesnt mention that the president s promoting it because the thesis of the piece that obama led the party too far left. I thought it was kind of a dishonest piece. But the Republican Party, let me say this, the Republican Party has done a much better job than the Democratic Party in the last six years in organizing at the grassroots, organizing, legislative races, county races just, you know, a lot has been led by the way by the koch brotherses who funded a lot of that. It has been effective. Those grassroots koch brotherses. They are americans for prosperity among the best brass roots organizers. They have welldeveloped plan for doing it. Why the legislature of michigan has turned republican. Theyre active in wisconsin. Very close to governor walker. Democratic party has not put up i think a sufficient response to that in terms of their own efforts at the grassroots. And unless they do, well continue to see losses how much falls on the president. Yeah, i was asking that same question. I had hopes for the Obama Administration and with Democratic Party that after campaigning so well in 08 and we must say in 2012 we would see more after grassroots effort at voter building for the long run. Especially you know ahead of time that the Democratic Party voters tend to be younger more diverse, while conservative voters tend to be older more white, more homeowners et cetera, more reliable at the polls, which is why now we see the things going back and fourth between, every couple of years now. And, how do you respond to that, since you are so good at campaigning yourself . I think we have done good job mobilizing the voters in president ial years. We traditionally and continue to do a poor job mobilizing them a third of the president ial electorate doesnt participate in nonpresident ial years. Right. 60 of the those tend to be democratic democraticleaning voters but my point is, you can inspire, you can inspire enthusiasm, but you also have to translate that into the mechanisms of electing people. And those elections cant just be for president and senator and governor. They have to be for state legislator for state representative, state senator and i think that the National Party should invest a lot more energy in those efforts and others should invest more energy in those efforts because ultimately who controls these legislatures is important in terms of the ideas that are being debated. And obviously at the end of the day in terms of redistributioning. Redistricting. How much to the conservative, look at cities, look at chicago look what happened in baltimore you look at detroit bankruptcy these are democraticrun cities, largely in democraticrun states, this is failure of democratic ideas . I would like to answer that first. I agree with it. What i, having covered the state legislature in this state for 20 years, watching up close democrats basically spend and spend and just now passing a budget that is 3 billion out of whack. Watching our mayor rahm emanuel not do enough in my opinion to try to get on top of debt in this city when he took over. Too slow on dealing with our pension crisis. I think that is why youre seeing flips in some of these states, flipping to republican legislatures because people are seeing that the same party that one party control, whether it is republican or democrat, it doesnt work. It is not effective. There is to check. That is what i think youre seeing in our state. I would say i agree with you to an extent. I think there has been a historic failure of leadership in this state and not just democrats in the legislature. It is democrats it is republican governors, who signed off on pension deals they couldnt afford, and it is labor leaders who signed off on pension deals that they knew werent funded. And they did it all each of them, all of them, republicans, democrats, labor leaders, to get through the next election and not deal with the problems that were going to accrue in the next generation. The attitude was that will be someone elses problems. Those problems washed up on the steps of city hall here. That is what rahm faced when he came to office. I think to say because the Illinois Legislature has failed, that we have a National Failure and that, people all over the country, are reacting to what is happened here. The fact of matter is, in a lot of states where you have seen republican gains there is more of a division of parties. So, i think, that you make a mistake when you try and partisannize this. I think fundamental failure we have and i see it broadly is we are, we have become a shortterm society. Weve got weve got corporations that manage to the quarterly report. Weve to the politicians who manage to the next election. You see it in the lack of investment in things Like Research and development and infrastructure and human capital, meaning education primarily. And i think were going to pay a longterm price for that. We can sort of try and pin the tail on the donkey or the elephant but we have a bigger problem than that and it wouldbe hoof us to hold all of ourselves to account for that and think about how were going to deal with these very big problems that are now begging for solutions. I would agree though we shouldnt partisannize City Management dovetail on, bruce you mentioned Baltimore Ferguson et cetera you get the same boilerplate emails, see what happens when democrats running cities blah, blah, trying to pin this on democrats. Where are the republicans in our cities . You know, we had in the past some excellent republican mayors and governors here and there who have been, who have had urban agendas not since the days of jack kemp Republican Party step forward with people who really care about the cities, who want to talk with black and hispanic urban voters not just talk at them. I give paul ryan credit for trying to pick up that jack kemp cause and flavor over the last couple of years but he is not running for president this time, ed. And quietly people who are close to paul ryan say that the time is not here yet. The party doesnt care about the cities right now. And, rand paul is trying to pick up on that, campaigning in chicago and detroit. Innercity and, other places, but, we dont have that, that marketoriented urban agenda that republicans could be pushing. Maybe some day. But easier for them as a party these days just to stand back and point fingers and blame democrats for the unfortunately we have only a minute left. I want to ask one question. You call them a heatseeking missile. You called them a walking personality disorder. Youve been pretty kind to rahm emanuel, relatively. Will be mayor for life . What is, is he going to do, is there a next step for rahm after chicago . I honestly, i mean im not privy to his, all his thinking on this. I dont see him being there for life no. I dont see that at all. Im not sure he will ever run for an office again. I think he is very focused on these problems that kristens mentioned. I will say on those problems, we do have to deal with this debt issue. But if anybody believes that all we need to do is deal with these debt issues and all our other problems will be solved, that is a terrible mistake. If we try to solve them at the expense of education human service, given the dismal record of this state, and some of the other things that make for successful state and a liveable state, were going to solve one problem and were going to create another problem that is massive and well live to regret. Lets not get so obsessed with debt and forget who we are and what our other obligations are. [applause] i think i think our debt crisis is the biggest crisis in the city. Were at junk bond status. Our system is close to declare bankruptcy. I dont know how much more you can collapse the importance of having good financial status with your ability to deliver Services Like education. I dont think rahm is going anywhere. Whenever it is rumored he is lining himself up to run for Vice President or something i think he is done with washington. I think we will serve out maybe another couple terms as mayor. I agree with david perhaps taking up the lovely position at university of chicago or, you know enjoying a quiet and sloyer and less stressful life. I have been relatively mild in my criticism of rahm compared to everybody else largely because i remember how he was elected. At a time when everybody knew the city was broke the state was broke. It was a job that was going to be impossible whoever picked up on it. He won overwhelming, crossing demographic lines here in the city and the votes were counted remarkably quickly without disappearing in the river wards before midnight. And of course, rahms nature comes out and he is the kind of guy who runs for reelection and has to go on tv with commercial, i know im an sob, im sorry. I will do a little better trying to be nice to you people you know. Lets face it, he was elected because a lot of voters said we need an sob to get into city hall to do what needs to be done. Will he run for president im sure in his heart of hearts he would love to be president. He would love to have opportunity to do it if the conditions were right. Conditions certainly are not moving in that direction though. I would say, nevertheless, we have people like Rick Santorum losing reelection in his home state. I guess i should run for president. We got martin omalley, former baltimore mayor, former governor of maryland went to the scene of baltimore unrest booed by voters there i think i will run for president. Maybe run is setting himself up and we dont know it. [laughing] david showed people in politics can get a good grounding through the Chicago Tribune, so maybe there is columnist gig for him. Or maybe you run for president. No David Axelrod kristin mcclearly, david page, thank you very much. [applause] thank you for attending this program. Books can be purchased and signed by our authors in the lobby outside. This is booktvs live coverage of the 2015 Chicago Tribune printers row lit fest held in downtown chicago. Youve been listening to David Axelrod and Clarence Page talking. In a few minutes the next panel will start. It will focus on the 1965 selma to montgomery Voting Rights march. If youre interested in the schedule for the rest of the day, follow us on twitter booktv. You can also go to our website booktv. Org. You can check your cable guide for updates as well as updates on the bottom of your screen throughout the day. Youre watching booktv on cspan2, television for serious readers. President ial candidates often he release books to introduce themselves to voters and to promote their views on issues. Heres look at some books written by declared candidates for president. Neurosurgeon ben carson calls for greater individual responsibility to preserve americas future in one nation. In against the tide. Former Rhode Island Governor Lincoln Chafee recounts his time serving as a republican in the senate. Former secretary of state Hillary Clinton looks back on her time serving in the Obama Administration in hard choices. In time for truth. Texas senator ted cruz recount his journey from a cuban immigrants son to u. S. Senate former ceo Carly Fiorina is another condition date for president. Former arkansas governor like huckabee gives his take on politics and culture in god guns grits and gravy. Former new york governor George Pataki is running for president. In 1998 he released, pataki he looked back on his path to the governor ship. Kentucky senator rand paul calls for Smaller Government and more bipartisanship in his latest book taking a stand. Another entrant into the 2016 president ial race is former Texas Governor rick perry. In fed up, he explains government has become too intrusive and must get out of the way. In american dreams, florida senator marco rubio outlines his plan to restore economic opportunity. Independent vermont senator Bernie Sanders is a candidate for the democratic nomination for president. His book the speech. Is printing of his eighthour long filibuster against tax cuts. In bluecollar conservatives president ial candidate Rick Santorum argues that the Republican Party must focus on the working class in order to retake the white house. Others who may announce their candidacies for president include Vice President biden. In promises to keep he looks back on his career in politics and explains his guiding principles. In immigration wars, former Florida Governor jeb bush argues for new immigration policies. More potential president ial candidates with books include louisiana governor bobby jindal. Quote leadership and crisis he explains why conservative solutions are needed in washington. In, stand for something Ohio Governor john kasich calls for a return to traditional american values. Businessman donald trump has also expressed an interest in running for president. In time to get tough he criticizes the Obama Administration and outlines his vision to restore american prosperity. And Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker argues republicans must offer Bold Solutions to fix the country and have the courage to implement them in unintimidated. In a fighting chance, massachusetts senator Elizabeth Warren recounts events in her life that shaped her career as educator and politician. Finally former virginia senator james webb looks back on his time serving in the military and in the senate in i heard my country calling. This is booktv on cspan2 and we want to know what is on your Summer Reading list. Send us your choices booktv is our twitter handle. You can also post it on our facebook page, facebook. Com booktv. Or send an email to booktv cspan. Org. What is on your Summer Reading list . Booktv wants to know. Here is a look at some of the current bestselling nonfiction books according to the Chicago Tribune. Topping the list, the lifechanging magic of tidying up. The guide to simplifying life. In second, david mccullough, twotime winner of the Pulitzer Prize recounts the birth of flight in, the wright brothers. Bill oreilly with david fisher come in third with the companion book to the fox news series legend and lives which examines lives of the American People in the midwest. Up next Fox News Contributor and former White House Press secretary dana perino shares stories from her years in the white house and her time in television in, and the good news is. Our look at the Chicago Tribune bestseller list continues with american wife from taya kyle, widow of american sniper author chris kyle. She along with jim defelice recount her life after her husbands death. Up next, in the road to character, New York Times columnist david brooks looks at the lives of 10 historical figures as examples for how to achieve success. Also on the list, ashley vance profiles the inventor and cofounder of tesla motors and paypal in, elon musk. Wrapping up this weeks bestsellers tom brokaw longtime host of the nbc nightly news program discusses his personal battle with cancer in a lucky life interrupted. That is a look at some of the current none fix best he willers nonfiction bestsellers according to the Chicago Tribune. It wasnt a choice initially. I think i started working in the first or in the third person. Then i realized that the that the, struggle of the text was how do you get a reader not to think they already know. Because i think these are old problems, theyre ancient. And, they have stayed with us you know, now we can say centuries, right . And so how do we reenter in a way that allows us to have to interrogate again . And the second personal loud that because it, it, it meant that the reader had to say this person is doing that and that person is doing that. And, i perhaps see myself standing here. And so those people who said they didnt see race, i dont see race, youre a little obsessed by race, because i only see human beings, began to say things like, that person must be the black person or that body must be the brown body or that is probably a white guy and and then suddenly race enters the space. And then one has to take a position around whether or not one is capable of holding the actions of one of those people. So that, that was the sort of the thinking behind the second person. But another part of me loved this idea that if youre talking about, sort of minorities, that youre actually talking about the second person, that the position of the other is the second person. So on a sort of language level there is that kind of, sort of deliciousness around the way that second person met the use of the word other. You can watch this and other problems online at booktv. Org. Well as you can see people are still filing in for the next event which will be beginning shortly. And we will be back with more live coverage from chicago in just a few minutes. This is booktv on cspan2. On sunday june 7th, booktv is live from chicago with Pulitzer Prizewinning author, lawrence wright, on in depth, our live money callin show. Wright is the author of nine books with topics that range from modern religion to the september 11, 2001 terror attacks and camp david accords. His recent title looks at former panama dictator, Manuel Noriega in gods favorite, a look at the dictators last years in power before his capture in 1989. He wrote the looming tower which won the Pulitzer Prize in 2007. It is talking about the rise of al qaeda, usama bin laden and the fbis responsibility for tracking their actions. Going clear which became an hbo documentary. His latest book is, 13 days in september, an an account of the Peace Agreement between israel and egypt in camp david in 1978. His brief books covered topics growing up in the 60 es and 70s. Profiles of the religious leaders and what identical twins tell us about inherited traits. Lawrence wright on booktv sunday june 7th, on in depth. You can participate via phone social media or in person at the the Chicago Tribunes printers row lit fest. Since were embarking on new president ial campaign, can you believe it is too many for that already . Were looking at spouses of candidates, i say spouses instead of wives because the clinton entrance into the campaign changes our dynamic of what definition of a first spouse might be. So well look at that. To whet your appetite, before i introduce our panelists this is priceless piece of film. This is from the National Archives collection from the truman library, 1945, National Airport, a place we all know very well, when bess trauma, brand new first lady was to do a event to christen an air ambulance. Watch what happens. Lets take a look. At the National Airport ambulances with wings. One each for navy and army. Ready to be christened by mrs. Hairy s truman. With her daughter margaret, will dot honors of her first public appearance. She is in for a surprise. The champagne bottle is not probably prepared to break the glass on impact. That is the behind scenes like these. Mrs. Truman unaware her bottle is not prepared [laughter] [banging noise] [laughter] the new first lady is [inaudible] [laughter] lets see how her military aide fares. [laughter] [applause] mrs. Truman kept her cool as you can see but guess what she was feeling inside . Mortally embarrassed and what happened as a result of that is she elected not to do anymore public appearances. Now, that is not a possibility for women today who hold this role because with the next presidency the Eisenhower Administration television burst on to the scenes and followed first ladies everywhere. Bess truman was the last to live a private life as much as she could in the white house. Watch this and other programs online at booktv. Org. Here is look at some recent books featured own booktvs afterwards, our weekly interview program. April ryan, White House Correspondent for american radio networks. Discussed her new book, the presidency in black and white, and her 25 year career in journalism. We spoke with president ial candidate Mike Huckabee, about his book, god, guns, grits and gravy. He talked about his view on culture. Wes moore, the he shared the quest to find meaning and fulfillment in his life. Booktv spoke to eric thornier about the book, gateway to freedom which details the history of the underground railroad. Appearing on afterwards, cornel west. He talked about the his latest book the radical king, a collection of speeches by Martin Luther king, jr. Tax reform was the focus of our conversation with grover norquist. He outlines idea in his book, end the irs before it ends us. Also appearing recently was elaine wbry, author of, be safe, love mom. Talking about a being a mother of four military officers serving in a war zone. Peter slevin appeared to discuss the biography of Michelle Obama discussing her life from childhood to the white house. Booktv saturdays at 10 00 p. M. And sundays at 9 00 p. M. Watch all previous after words at our website booktv. Org. And we are back live from chicago from this years printers row lit fest. In just a second, steve phieffer and adar cohen discuss their book jimmy, lee and james. It is about the 1965 selma to montgomery Voting Rights march and events that led up to it. They are joined by two activists who participated in the march. This panel is just beginning
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