The things that are important. Because of that, i have a ratification and confirmation of my belief in the possibilities of democracy. Host if you were to sit down with our friends from oklahoma guest i understand your perception but look at the people your same age who are black or brown, ask how you might have offended them, the privileges you enjoy the we didnt and if you hear from somebody who is your. A young person like me stirring up problems and putting fear emotionally dangerous territory. Ask somebody your age what they think and after you hear them you might hear me. As i was to you and figure out a way beyond that and the differences we have to negotiate a Better Future because of our common embrace of democracy. Host tears we cannot stop, a sermon to white america, Michael Eric Dyson is the author. Booktv is live at the university of Southern California for the 22nd annual Los Angeles Times festival of books, chamber of commerce, pictureperfect day on campus. Uclas crowd. We go back to the hancock villain and show you the next panel on the Republican Party, radio talkshows hugh hewitt, peggy grande and corey fields who talks about the elephant in the room. Live coverage on tv. [inaudible conversations] welcome, everybody, to the la times book festival, the grand old party for him. Thanks for joining us, my name is john thomas, your moderator for today. I am a republican political strategist, i do hard talking head stuff on cnn, thanks for joining us. I wont do a lot of the talking today because we have a distinguished panel today that has written some neat books. The format will be we are going to have a conversation partially about their books but also about the state of the Republican PartyNational Elections and see how that evolves into that for 30 minutes, and you can ask directly of our panelists. Lets start with our first panelist, hugh hewitt, talk radio host you see on tv all the time and the name of the title. We did not bring copies of our books. Are you doing a book signing . Usually pulling it up at cspan, brian lamb is dying and laughing. It is called the fourth way, building a permanent republican majority in the aftermath of Donald Trumps election, it came out, it was not supposed to be written. Simon and schuster said would you consider writing a book about how republican deal with the new president and i said happy to do so and my next 60 days were spent in front of a keyboard working away on the fourth way so you got to say the name of the book 7th way, the fourth way, 5 times. If you are in tvland it is for sale afterwards. Go ahead. I am a professor of sociology at stanford university, and africanamerican republicans, both are idiots in this book. The office in two 24 years, black republicans across the country and wrote a book, what is it like to be black in the Republican Party, is that post obama or the obama post obama era. The book covers the experience of race, identity and politics the right. Peggy grandy brought her book which by the way you can go to area one after this and have a book signed but peggy woods, Ronald Reagans personal assistant, posts presidency, no one knows Ronald Reagan better than peggy grande and you have a new book. Thanks for having me, call the president will see you, now, my stories and lessons of reagans final years and covers 15 years after he left the white house where he left his final legacy and i feel i am the luckiest woman in the world, i sat outside his office door every day and served as executive president , there are all kinds of stories i learned and how he inspired and changed my life and how he still inspire and change lives and im attentive to details. I would be embarrassed if i had. Lets kick it off with a broader question about how the gop, how you, the majority in control, trump cant seem to get things done unless by executive which building coalitions which not just republicans but building minority coalitions and more stakeholders to the table what is the secret to success . I finished a piece in the Washington Post and there will be a piece about Donald Trumps 100 days which have been more successful than i anticipated because of the nomination, confirmation of justice course which, my old boss got two of those so he already has one, president obama got two, normally two per president that is a key seat that could have changed forever. He has had a great 100 days. He has passed 513 congressional review laws, which repeals a regulation within the last 60 legislative days and permanently bar the door to the agency coming in and he has the column begins , the Foreign Policy of donald trump could not be more different president obama. The eight words i some of the obama legacy are leading from behind, redline, aleppo and libya with the strike in syria, dispatch in north korea, trump has had a remarkably successful start with a lot of incredibly big errors including a federal judge a socalled federal judge, branding people in the media as enemies of the state. The mistakes have been made but he has had a very successful 100 days. He doesnt or on the hill. The coalition interestingly enough, might be a nice segue, he is getting along with the black caucus because they want the infrastructure built. I think what we are seeing some ways is a pretty complicated in terms of response to population and what we are seeing, the president having you with realities of governing, in some ways around issues of certain black republicans and minorities in the country, more pratfalls than successes expressly at the level of rhetoric, the ability to build bridgees crossed minorities so it will be interesting to see what happens from a legislative standpoint. And the Building Blocks of making inroads with voters i think in some ways it has been interesting because even in the book i talk about different kinds of republicans, some are more successful positive relationships and some are marginalized. The experience of having the book come out now there is a sense that it is outdated because one of the interesting thing is even black republicans who were party supporters, party loyal are expressing a deep dismay with the new Administration Similar to traditional part of the royalty. That is a point, get in line. A lot of traditional gop coalitions. That is uniquely a black issue . Not at all but i do think to the extent of the constituencies in the party, inroads, week to begin with as you can see, especially stressful. If your lobby within the party is so marginal to begin with, can you at best to feel like there is for john further marginalized. What do you the fact, look at the africanamerican voting block, 90 perhaps 90 vote democrat. Cold, calculated the winning elections where should the gop be spending time . And if the majority of the africanamerican base is staunchly democrat, how do you make an argument to the Republican Party, action, need to stop doing what got you a majority and go to a voting block that is staunchly in the credit that it is hard to shake. I dont necessarily black republican are the one for me it is like that strategy, i do think part of the message is not just kicked in the column. One thing about black republicans is incredibly symbolic. Part of the argument becomes to the extent the notion of diversity is becoming a national norm. It is important to create a space where the party is open to anyone and that means reach stretching out to nontraditional audiences. You can talk about to some extent, outreach to black voters becomes approximately your record on reaching out through different audiences of symbolic importance. I like to joke black republicans often operate as canaries in the coal mine which i saw happening with black republicans was reflective of broader transition so the shift in black republicans from the 1960s to black republicans today should mirror a shift in the party to the extent, in the 60s pro black and pro republican. It is difficult to imagine the landscape of that being a successful model of what that means. You do Ronald Reagan on a personal level. What lessons did you learn about that reagan could teach donald trump about getting this done . From a leadership standpoint more than a policy standpoint, Ronald Reagan was about finding things we agree upon. We disagree in 1000 ways but there have to be two or three things we agree upon but lets use that to move forward and build a conversation or dialogue and Common Ground we can work toward so from a leadership endpoint that and he was an excellent communicator but great at connecting dots between policy and people so it is one thing to be legislating on the hill but can you connect the dots back down you can you connect them to ordinary everyday families, communities, homes, Ronald Reagan did that really well and i think a lot of things are happening in washington dc but can he connect those 2 homes and families and moms and kids, happening in washington also beneficial to you as a family and supportive. We have an embarrassment of riches in terms of control but we seem to be squandering with much infighting. What would you the Democratic Party seems fired up. We were talking before the panel began. I went to la, there was a protest going on. Couldnt get out of my house because they were blocking the driveway. You were saying the heat on the democratic side is starting to simmer down. How long will that last and should we be worried as republicans that republicans are not fired up protesting in the streets for things they believe and that might hurt us . Most americans are exhausted, i was at the end of 2016. If you look at the kansas fourth Congressional District republican turnout dropped by 100,000 people. The republican candidate won because democrat turnout despite the hashtag resistance dropped from 80,000 voters to 55,000 voters so they went down by a greater percentage than republicans did. John ossoff did not live in the district, gave an interview on your new network, was asked when are you going to marry that girl . It was the longest silence i have ever seen on television and i dont want to give anything away. I was in dc when the womens porch happened, it was enormous, significant, 2 Million People strong, 600 venues across the United States last weekend for tax day and 120,000 people in 100 venues. Protest so much, people like to do things on their weekend like go to the la festival of books. I see it just dissipating completely and if Chuck Schumer forces a shutdown of the government as he promised to do over border wall funding on the 100th day i dont think it energizes his base at all beyond the hard but if he does deny Donald Trumps big four thing is, he got one of them, that will help us. There is a side of me that wants Chuck Schumer to carry through to shut down the government. I hope Chuck Schumer does that. Was role do you think the media plays in painting the gop as antiminority . Interesting question. To the extent that it reports on what happened, and active part of it. The experience of black republicans i spoke to will complain about media coverage, it is normally pretty negative. Antiblack or that. One point i make in the book is what seems to happen is there is a certain kind of black republican selected into success so one way to end up successful as a black republican is talk about other blinds, race doesnt matter. Black republicans say race doesnt matter. Black republicans represent the entirety of all black republicans so there is also a group of black republicans, black power being republican is best for black people. And that act find themselves worth herself marginalized. And fox news needs a black republican, get the guy who matters. In that regard to the extent whenever you see a black republican they are disavowing any relevance for race discrimination, in media it is bad, but i am not going to present media doing a hit job on black republicans but black republicans have become available and look a certain way. The next question we should be asking ourselves, why cant you be a successful black republican if you are problack people. Where i was going is if you look a lot of Mainstream Media outlets, even it seems trump is changed the nature of coverage in the sense of even when there are republicans who are minority on most of Something Else they are not. Now you have republicans minorities who are antithe president. Framing so antilatino i feel like now can parties getting it from both sides from a media perspective. I certainly africanamerican republicans, women republican groups, certainly they think about the trump election as a disappointment, we have a road in the Party Structure that compassionate conservatism of george w. Bush souring into a kind of populism, white populism and a fasting under donald trump. It is not surprising to me that racial minorities the party have been affected deal of with disappointment. The extent to which there is a broader scope of antitrump sentiment that creates a space in the party allowing things to be vocal about it. Everybody antitrump, there is not much penalty for speaking out and that creates more space for minorities in the party, did not have to stand to unite the republican friends. And that regard, part of it is part of it as well, antitrump sentiment, for people like that. The complaints manifestation of a feeling of like what they were slowly but adding better for minorities within the party and this happens. Hugh hewitt, what the fact that a lot of publicans dont campaigns, they pander, run issues. An issue like jobs. To what degree are we shooting ourselves in the foot because we dont pander . I hope we dont ever. I did four republican debates and we had doctor carson, africanamerican, arco rubio, ted cruz, carly fiorina. It was remarkably diverse, donald trump, not really a traditional republican so i think 2016 is an outlier. Donald trump got 7 of the africanamerican vote, mitt romney got 4 . If donald trump is able to take that gain and replicate 7 to 10 or 11 it shatters not only the blue law which is in charge in wisconsin in the upper midwest that revolutionizes american politics. And to a certain extent it wasnt politics. I dont think he is a racist, the least homophobic president we ever had. I believe he has a completely different brand of politics that will change all these calculations. It doesnt change will heard from san antonio. One of the great hopes on National Security along with mike gallagher, is an africanamerican on the ground in afghanistan. I dont want to pander and promote people because of race or ethnicity or gender but it is nice when the party reflects more of the american spectrum, and openly gay man. And likely the ambassador to nato. The Republican Party has always been about what do you have upstairs and what do you have in terms of talent and i wanted to be that way. To some extent how parties run themselves and make leadership decisions. And one thing that is important to think about is the nature with identity politics. And doesnt pander to raise. There are a lot of black republicans from my experience, fundamentally would disagree with it. The party aggressively panders in a way that plays on racial fears and racial anxiety and so this isnt me. 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Because nothing has to for protocol or diplomatic reason because they wanted to and relationship continues so all kinds of people politically and personally in his white house years and invited president elect bill clinton on the opposite side of the aisle, for the fraternity of president s and Ronald Reagan did see a wide spectrum of people, they were World Leaders and every day patriotic americans who came and had written to the office, maybe they had a connection to him and maybe they did but we tried to accommodate as many of those and some were the more memorable visits with a couple standout little boy with autism may be 8 years old and verizon every fact and read every book about Ronald Reagan and when he came into the president as he was just so taken by the president that i think the president was equally taken by him and this little boy was quizzing Ronald Reagan about his life story and every now and then the president got it wrong according to the little boy. It was a really sweet interaction to see this man spends time with this little boy and other people who had come from former communist countries came to pay their respects to president reagan was one woman walking into the office from romania and very elderly and stooped over and walked into Ronald Reagans office and took one look at him and literally fell to his feet and was sobbing and kissing his feet and thanking him for freeing her and freeing her family and freeing her people from oppression. It was the way he had policies that connected to people in real tangible ways and to witness that at the highest level and the lowest level behind the scenes which is a beautiful experience and i have written about that. The president will see you now. Asking about the president will see you now. President next, i worked for him and they had work done for people who were overly enthusiastic and president obama is going to come back from french indonesia postpresidency, so interesting because who you see since signals. George w. Bush was selling book portraits of courage. How they let you know when people they got time and their energy flags. Ronald reagan was not annoyed by many things but he was annoyed by running over time. Time was important to him. One of my chief rolls, i was always watching the clock but i would monitor those appointments closely and i could tell by his body language, maybe he was fine with this person they were annoying me. This little system, if he had a sensitive appointment, three minutes before recovering the door. Intended things up and not breaking up i would step in closer proximity and join the circle of conversation and submitted it if he did have something to break things up i would think the person for coming. And set up another appointment so he was very gracious and that was my job. I had to be the bad guy so he could be the good guy. President obamas postpresidency . You are a black republican, find your way to chicago where he will live in dc the youngest girl has graduated but he is going to chicago in palm springs. Lot of golf. Would you have heard or been carson or very high profile black republicans like Condoleezza Rice and colin powell. Would you connect with former president . In the sense that connecting and networking with powerful connected people makes a lot of sense, sharing and identity, it makes a lot of sense. What i want to stress that there are a bunch of many different ways to be black. Many different ways that manifest and expressed in politics. Not necessarily makes a lot of sense given start policy differences between someone like heard and obama but in regards to what penny is talking about, connecting people, reaching across the island building coalitions which this is something i africanamerican republicans within the party talk about, the black elephant in the room. One of the things you live and learn, they struggle with trying to broaden those connections and create something similar to connecting policies to the things people care about, identities that motivate them and often black republicans will say the frustration is there is a stifling of the ability to get the message out, here is how this conservative policy connects to you, black citizen in atlanta or chicago and california. Instead, the only way to talk about it is to say the policy is good and you should supported and if you thought better about this you would agree and the experience of connecting with obama, connecting leadership in the party today, the central struggles. The Republican Party makes it difficult in a lot of ways and black liberals naked difficult, so stuck in the middle. Lot of time when i talk about this, if i talk about this in front of liberal audiences, blame the black Republican Party, i talk about it in front of conservative audiences, it is liberals who wont accept lack people can be conservative. When i hear from black republicans your attention is on both legals. I have one more question and then i want to get a question. The cspan audience wont no, one of the most successful Political Consultants in california who represents republicans, many have been my president. Have you ever represented an africanamerican republican . No i havent. We are in a box in california, the bench is empty in california. I have interviewed several black. I did pink they were credible candidates. Larry elder almost ran for senate. That would be the closest i have gotten. He was getting ready to run for senate, and werent his fault. Carly fiorina went for it. A great guy terrific for this panel because he has a different view. Did you interview larry . I promise ill anonymity. Yes or no, cant confirm or deny. One last question and to your guyss question. All right. I am going to make a partisan statement but bear with me. My take on the Democratic Party at this point is they are a strong regional party, not a National Party after the last election, they are strong on the coast said big cities. They got problems. They continue with the protest to paint donald is so extreme, so crazy, so dangerous, is it possible they overplayed their hand, that will back lash when the world doesnt come to an end, the stock market is continue to grow, good job start to come back . At the same time and are not getting enough done . We had an opportunity for healthcare reform because of infighting. What is your prescription your book . Or even a tease . What should donald trump be doing and what does speaker ryan do to get past people like the Freedom Caucus . I think he does. Infrastructure with one 10th of what president obama received in early 2009 donald trump being accomplishing 100 times as much actual standard benefits. I think he does a to china and is immigration form, with the young people brought to the country of minors is not prosecuting absent other criminal involvement. He continues and is a lot of to china stuff. Democrats are in a bad way if they are stuck with old and wornout leadership and im hoping they stay that way because chris murphy in connecticut is very energetic and charismatic, senator harris california do what president obama did which is between 2 years in the senate and start running for president and ready to run for president in 2020, incredibly talented seth bolton, marine, retired massachusetts congressman, tim ryan, they have a lot of young people but they fit below the giant geriatric ward that is the democratic leadership. I hope nobody leaves the board. You see Bernie Sanders in california. This is the rental party for but it is interesting to look at the Party Leadership in california has been hijacked by the delegates the sanders people. They are alive and well, pulling the Democratic Party further left. Lets get to some questions. Do we have any . You in the picture. [inaudible question] the question to the panel, to the panel, do you think the media is behind the perception there is real voter oppression or do you think that the gop is actually doing a good job in inviting people of color into the party and the way he remembered his parent being invited and during the Reagan Administration . With the other panel, my Research Suggests there is no simple answer to that which i found the most welcoming and inviting context for africanamerican republicans and minority inclusion more broadly and this wont be a surprise to people on the panel, in swing states, if you were in florida, ohio, michigan, pennsylvania and you were a black republican, you were exploring multiple options, the leadership in those parties in those states would create more opportunities for a wider range and the logic behind it and pick up 1000 votes by knocking on black people at the door saying good for you to be problack and prorepublican it is worth it. And red and blue states, the outreach efforts were people that best. It is not creation of the media but lived experience is important to note that simultaneously, the party is doing relatively robust and strong outreach efforts strongly correlate with Strong Perceptions of voter id, efforts to lift up and suppress. It depends on where you live and your experience of the party. I have my Cleveland Cavaliers add here and running or senate against sherrod brown, hard left democrat, older white, jewish, young in afghanistan, a marine who looks like he is 25 at ohio state university, the flip in ohio when president obama won by two points when president obama won by two points is 11 points, a seismic shift. A lot of that was not africanamericans voting for President Trump but staying home in Cuyahoga County. Josh mandel if he wants to win that seat, he wears out shoes, it is a funny story. He will live in Cuyahoga County and talk on not suppress but convert a home run. There are super super tight margins, doing little will yield strong at a minimum, looking at this, to get 50 voting. But i think one of the points, one of the things trump done, it is in the protests, for a lot of people that is exactly what they wanted, as upsetting as the status quo will create a space for new alliances and new coalitions that dont intuitively make sense or feel familiar given the logic from existing politics so whatever you think of trump, of the potential upside of all this is the political order will be rearranged in ways that this notion of strange political bedfellows will become more common. So part of that might be might include minority outreach by conservative politicians, true honest minority politicians. The third row right there. s your comments about navarro and every conservative major Editorial Board coming out not for trump or Hillary Clinton do you think there is a core of republican support for taking the party back from normalization trump seems to be spouting right now and trying to go back to additional reagan type republican conservative values . I will swing at that. The Republican Party is getting along fine with donald trump. Reince priebus as chief of staff, ryan and leader mcconnell worked hand in glove with him. His hardest sell is the Freedom Caucus, like the area 51 sub caucus, they believe in legislative flying saucers and purity but i dont he has a built in problem, the party reconciled itself to donald trump more quickly that i thought it would because neil o gorsuch and 350 should navy and 20 vacancies on circuit court, 100 District Court vacancies of his first nominee out of kentucky fifth circuit who will represent diversity breakthrough as well and if you keep sending conservative judges to the bench and building the navy he will get his infrastructure and everything and everyone will be happy so there is no split in the Republican Party and his numbers are incredibly high for him. I saw the nbc rundown on this, more than 90 , had no fall off. People who hated him to begin with and paid him still, some people are tired of the whole show and have checked out but there is no fracturing in the Republican Base at all. Interesting to see the extent of the umbrella over to other republicans because given the extent to which trump has separated himself out, the halo effect poll numbers have on other republicans will be the real test, to say i am prodonald trump then to the extent someone running against the congressman in your district paints the congressman as craziness, i like his style but his substance is questionable, we are waiting to see what happens and it wont just develop tentatively. A long way away. So long until 2018, you dared predict anything, so far away which batting 300 with republican. Did we have i have a question do you feel the president , when wes or sean spices speaks that he is alienating a certain core group of moderate republicans when they speak without thinking i voted for trump and a lot of my friends are very conservative but we came to the same mind that we went to get the hell off of twitter. This 100 day conservative talk show hosts around the country, detroit, cleveland and the pittsburgh, i asked my audience, 1000 republicans, stand up if you want to keep twittering and stand up if you want him to stop, it is two third, keep doing it, one third whats him to stop. And they elected an attitude, not an ideology and competitiveness which was captained in 2012. In any event it doesnt matter because hes not stopping. This is a good segue. Twitter wasnt around when reagan was president but if it were what do you think his twitter account would look like and would it be managed by somebody else would he do it himself . I dont he would pull his iphone out but i think Ronald Reagan would he may not have said the same thing donald trump has but the essence and hard is the same as the reason Donald Trump Tweets is he woulds to connect to the voters, to bypass the media, avoid the spin, talk directly to the voters and the population at large and Ronald Reagan did the same thing. He didnt have twitter but through his weekly radio addresses and speeches from the oval office where he would look through the lens of the camera come and your living room he wanted to connect with people, that was so important to him, not just giving a speech to give a speech but he was delivering a message to come into your heart and home so donald trump the essence of this is the same, he wants to talk directly to people and i believe to your question Ronald Reagan absolutely he was very careful about his words and his word selection, always chose to put things in a positive light and be inspirational in he said so i imagine he would have had million of followers and people would have looked to his speech for inspiration. They are came into retirement, james baker, secretary of state baker and Michael Beaver, Michael Beaver reinvented communicating with the American People via 1shot a day and sent donald good shot his questions and Ronald Reagan wouldnt answer so they reinvented it so he would have done what was useful to communicate. One more thing, it was important to him to connect with young people. Before donald trump he was the oldest serving president and got the highest margin of young people voting for him for reelection so he would have absolutely gone to social media and that is where young people are, he believed he was fulfilling his role in the future was important invested in future leaders. On the right, we will get to you next. Is my question, more important you should donald trump release his tax return . I asked do so on the air in february 2013, i asked him again to do so on the debate stage and i believe he should and i dont believe he will. He should, he wont. I dont think a lot of people care as many as in the media care. In the back. I met hugh hewitts wife. I would love to see her again. On a cruise ship. I did buy shakespearean monologues but anyway, the big question is when i say Abraham Lincoln was a republican and the democrats created the ku klux klan after they lost the civil war, the comment from the democrat is always what were once democrats are now republicans and what were republicans are now democrats, the partiess philosophies have changed to the point where now the democrats take credit for lincoln and bringing the civil war, i was curious what the black fellow there considers a good response to this insanity each colorblind in action. I is certainly the sort of deployment of history, what the Republican Party was like as a basis to make contemporary appeals but what happened is black republicans themselves feel like Party Leadership over relies on this historical narrative because the fundamental backdrop to that is if you knew better you would think better and black republicans feel the best way to do outreach is to tell people they are stupid but understand history. There is a real challenge if wants to remove these historical facts from the broader context. No one argue the numbers we see today in terms of black supporting democrats essentially by historically the africanamericans were overwhelmingly republican at the start of the Republican Party. One of the respondent in my book describes it as that ship happens not because we moved away from the party but because the party moves away from us. The historical facts are there is you describe them but then from a broader Historical Context does a bit of this service and certainly from a baseline standpoint it is not effective. It is not working as an outreach strategy. I dont see any reason to go with it. In the back a tie will get you something. All of you are goodlooking. Fisting seems to be an extreme disconnect between the perception of many africanamericans and other minority people that this president has unleashed a raging tide of bigotry towards. Steve bannon in the west wing, Jeff Sessions already doing some of the damage people felt he might do and hoped he wouldnt so the tension between those who are black republicans who contend there is a future in the Republican Party for africanAmerican People and yet the perception among the vast majority of those people that the Republican Party doesnt speak to their interests and very quickly, frankenstein is the name of the doctor, not the monster so in Mary Shelleys viewpoint, donald trump is not been created out of the head of zeus to mix metaphors but has emerged lee from people, paul ryan, john weiner boehner who use the narrow conception of race that found monstrous and heated and passionate expression in trump. [applause] i think the experience of africanamerican republicans as they expressed it to me was one of feeling trump come out of nowhere and what struck me interestingly after the election i was in contact with a lot of my informants, there was definitely a feeling of where black republicans were like pleasure i can take from this election cycle is now moderate white republicans know what it is like to be me, have a Republican Party seen in ways that are indefensible to people around you and feeling like you constantly have to explain. Explain away gas. Donald trump didnt create anything do. Africanamerican republicans constantly talk about feeling like now i have to go to thanksgiving and explain why some republican politicians said something questioning the intelligence of black people were generating segregationists, this is very challenging and difficult and frustrating. Throughout the trump campaign, with some of the twitter comments, feeling of having to explain away egregious behavior is what every republican has to deal with. The stage was set before trump came along and the deployment of certain attitudes and beliefs about racial minority has made the experience of being a minority within the party more difficult than it was for and people are saying i cant stand by this. So do a lot of republicans. You in the maroon. [inaudible question] the Republican Party in california seems to have flipped including Orange County, the registration figures between Republican Party and Democratic Party in Orange County are almost equal. 20 years ago Orange County was considered the most republican that is true of Orange County which is coastal it has to do with affluence and education and the blue wall was shattered in the middle of the country with a blue coast and the red interior. But i would say to some extent from my research africanamerican republicans and latino republicans often talk about the experience of the california Republican Party so i guess the shift and the tone of the party is about 2 7 cent we are all situated from our own perspective so to read what is happening to the