Wisconsin governors debate tween incumbent scott walker and his challenger, mary burke. This is the second of two debates in the race. The race is listed as a tossup. The Wisconsin Association of independent colleges and universities and the aarp. And now, the ceo and president , michelle. Good evening. Radio and Television Broadcasters are committing to continuing our Public Affairs podcast tradition by sponsoring debates for clinical campaigns. Political campaigns this year, we are continuing the tradition by sponsoring debates in major wisconsin political campaigns. This year, the Broadcasters Association is hosting to debates. Gubernatorial this debate will engage the two leading candidates for wisconsin candidaterepublican for Governor Scott walker and democratic candidate mary burke. The debate is made possible in by generous grant from the Wisconsin Association for the colleges and universities and the aarp of wisconsin. I would like to introduce the night, a for the veteran reporter from the iraqi n. Blic radio, aaron eri latest figures make informed choices i have a candidates share specific ideas about how they plan to wisconsin. Each candidate will have the heavy minutes for an opening statement, determined via going to. Two minutes for an opening statement, determined by a coin flip. Each candidate will have one minute early seconds to respond one minute and 30 seconds to respond. Will alternate the order. Divide responses that answer the panelists questions and stay on topic. The specifics answers, i may call on the panelists to restate the question and give each of you 30 seconds for a focused reply. Please adhere to the time limits you have agreed to. If you exceed your limit, i will remind you that your time is up. Should you persist, your microphone will be silenced. We will conclude the debate with threeminute closing statements. Finally, we will be addressing the candidates as Governor Walker and missed work ms. Burke. Thank you to the Broadcasters Association, Governor Walker, all of you at home watching tonight, and my family, my mother and relatives who are here with me tonight. The election is about wisconsins future. Not only can we do better, but we must do better, so that everybody has a fair shot to get ahead if they do the hard work. Governor walker sees it a little differently. He says, and i quote, we do not have a jobs problem. The average family who are seen income drop 3000 over the last four years, that is a jobs problem. It is not fair and that is not good for the economy. Instead of building up the middle class, Governor Walker has aimed to tax breaks to those at the top. It is not working. Wisconsin is dead last in the midwest in terms of job growth under his watch. That is the jobs problem. I want to make sure that every wisconsin family has a fair shot to get ahead if they are prepared to do the hard work. A fair shot means first and affordable,at, Public Education, starting in kindergarten all the way through college. I will invest in schools and make college more affordable. A fair shot also means a growing economy with growing small businesses, raising the minimum wage, increasing good paying jobs. A fair shot means reducing the tax burden to those who are being squeezed. And a fair shot means a government that is accountable, pistol he responsible, and working for the people of wisconsin, not special interests. And finally, it means an end to divisiveness. We are all on the same team and we are proud wisconsinites first and foremost, not republicans or democrats. I look forward to share my plan sharing my plan with you that gives every wisconsinites a bright future. Good evening. Thank you to the wba for sponsoring the event and particular thanks to my wife and two sons, matt and alex. Think you are home for turn thank you at home for tuning in to what i hope will be an honest and open debate. I have great news. 8400 new jobs were created last month. That is the best september with had for private sector job creation in more than a decade. On top of that, unemployment is down to 5 , the lowest since october of 2008. Wisconsin ranks fifth in the nation for new manufacturing jobs. That is why we have invested 100 million to worker training to help people get the skills that they needed for the good paying Jobs Available right now. The most recent Fiscal Year Ended with a cash balance of some 570 million 517 million. The next budget will begin with a surplus. That means that we can invest in priorities. Economic development, quality schools, technical colleges. Hoping d helping needy families. Helping people who are victims of domestic violence, like my friend who is here today and has been such an inspirational advocate. Overall, wisconsin is better off than it was four been years ago, and we have a plan to make it better. I invite people to go to scott walker. Com to look at my plan. I will share details tonight. Working together, we can continue to move wisconsin forward, and that is why i ask for your vote. Thank you, Governor Walker. The first question tonight is from charles benson, a political reporter. Lets talk about budget numbers. This week, the nonpartisan number crunchers told us that wisconsin has a 517 million surplus. At the same time, we are hearing that the state faces a 1. 8 billion projected shortfall in the next budget. Voters are asking how can both be true . Question, you agree that there is a surplus, and what is the priority for that money . Secondly, do you agree that there is a projected deficit for the next budget, and what we do specifically about it . Would you do specifically about it . That theimportant people of wisconsin understand the financial position of our state. I have been a business person my entire career, balanced a bunch of budgets, and the numbers can be confusing. The fact is that the 570 million refers to a cash allens. Ballance. If you have a bunch of bills that have not come do yet, it may look like you have a lot of money, but you have to pay them. Bills. A lot of deferred colleges and universities that are putting projects on hold in order to inflate this number to make it look at her than it is. Is. Etter then it Governor Walker has spent money that we do not have. This year, we are projected to spend a 400 million more than we taken. Where way that i would approach ,his, and the projected deficit is that we have to make tough decisions. We have to get the economy going so we have revenues coming in. We have to make sure that we prioritize our spending based on Economic Development and getting the economy going. Because that is what is going to make sure that wisconsin is in the strongest position financially, when we get the economy up and running. There is no disputing the fact, the facts are clear. Wisconsin just finished its last 2014, year, june 30 of with a 570 million surplus. Million dollars o surplus. Billion figure comes from an assumption of zero growth. That just does not happen. Figure. Billion if you combine that with the fact, just making some reasonable adjustments to be budget, as we have over the past year, i will put us in a place where we have a surplus. The priorities will be the ones we just talked about. Moderator for a second, that clock just changed twice. Is that the way it is supposed to be going . I thought we had a minute and 30 seconds, but it switched. You do have a minute and 30 seconds, so we will check the situation. I apologize to be viewers, but it was a little odd for both of us. We are going to check it. And now, your 32nd rebuttal . Lets make sure 32nd rebuttal 30 second rebuttal . Lets make sure we have 30 seconds on the clock. Go ahead. The fact remains that we have a 1. 8 billion projected deficit. 2s is a difference of billion from the last budget, because of the fiscally irresponsible decisions that Governor Walker made, and because the revenues are lagging because the economy is lagging. This is going to be a tough budget. As governor, i am prepared to take on the tough decisions for the next. Next budget. We inherited a deficit entered into a surplus rated we did it the oldfashioned way, paying off the money that we owed. The paid back the money taken from the patient compensation fund. We even paid money back to minnesota. The Rainy Day Fund is bigger than when we took office. Our pension is one of the only fully funded ones in the country. We are putting a focus on fiscal responsibility, and we will have a surplus in the next day budget. Based upon the state budget. Based upon the reasonable projections that relate out will lead out. Kent. T question is from the debate is taking place in downtown the walkie. You have both talking about the importance to all of wisconsin of having a thriving economy in the city. In innercitynt milwaukee, particularly among africanamerican men, remains exceptionally high. Some boarded at 50 or higher. There arel us that if jobs, they are not here, and they are desperate for change sooner. Can you give us some specific examples of what you can and will do to tackle the and implement problem in the short term in the heart of the states largest city. This is a real problem. I noticed that when i was the Milwaukee County executive, and tried to act on it as governor. Announced a2012, we program. 100 million from the state to try and invest in new developments, new projects, things that would put people to work. Not just with jobs, but with family supporting jobs. E have added to that the transformer walkie program for jobs, it is part of the Transitional Program elsewhere in the state, and we will build on that. I have asked people to head up a task force on minority unemployment in tackle that very issue. They have made a series of recommendations. That is why we have made academic plans. In the short term, we need Capital Investment in milwaukee. We did that by putting it, and the heart of the city, our new romans headquarters. Childrens headquarters. We are going to continue to build off of that and not just talk about it. Put our money where our mouth is. This is a real issue, because wisconsin cannot have a thriving economy without a milwaukee economy that is driving as well. The tomorrow that is driving as well read the milwaukee economy has not come back thriving as well. That has not happened. Walker, it would be six more years before Milwaukee County would get to prerecession unemployment levels. That is not good enough, and Governor Walker has had four years, and forming a task force now is not good enough. Do, with my experience as an entrepreneur, is a new concept used in cleveland called anchor institutions. Use anchor institutions like hospitals, health care, institutions to start new businesses, help them to grow the businesses, and give contracts. We also need to invest in the local communities, in neighborhoods where we have boarded up your funds. Did the people the business skills that they need to start we do business as their. Start theirs to own businesses there. That 100 million i talked about is more than just talk, we invested it. We invested another 100 million on top of that on top of that, we put money into the africanamerican chamber of commerce. We did the same thing with the Hispanic Chamber of commerce. But lets be clear. Referenced governor doyle, and that led to the losing of jobs. We have had to clean up that mess and will continue to do so going forward. Getting back to the central city, in milwaukee, the most important thing that we have to do is focus on metal of the jobs themselves, but our job skills and education. I look forward to taking on the tough issues on education in is whate, because that is going to drive Economic Development and jobs in the longterm. We have to make sure that people have the skills and the training and a career plan when they leave high school as to how they are going to make sure they get that, along with Affordable Access to higher education. The next question is from cbs 58 reporter mike. Both of you have said that you need more information from an Economic Impact study before taking a position on a highstakes casino proposal. What are you going to need to see in the study that would convince you to say yes or no . And furthermore, what does your gut say . What does your moral or philosophical core say about expanded gaming . I look forward to digging on this issue. Because it is very important to the people of kenosha and also in milwaukee. Governor walker has had 14 months to do this, and before this was ever even approved by the federal government, he laid out three criteria that he said he would use to make a decision. He has now flipflopped, and he is not even using those criteria. In addition, not one of those criteria had to do with job creation and Economic Development, which is the most important issue we face here. I would make sure that we have an impartial study that looks at the impact of the casino both on milwaukee and kenosha. Competition with other states like iowa and illinois, not only for gaming, before entertainment. But for entertainment. If it creates a significant number of new jobs and adds to the employment and tax base, i casino. Prove the but we do need to have the impartial study done, and as soon as that is done, i will make the decision. I would not kick the can down the road. I love kenosha. Go there often as the mayor knows, i spend a lot of time down there, and i am pleased to see how many jobs we have helped to create, many have come from northern illinois, across the border. Is totalt manufacturing or amazon in the town of summer. Journalaukee business put out a story talking about 4000 new jobs in the kenosha area. But the biggest Thing Holding us up right now is really two words, jim doyle. Jim doyle put in compacts a decade ago that specific we said that if a casino is put up and kenosha, they could hold out on 100 million or more. They have talked about withholding part of those payments to date. To me, a 100 million hole in the budget is significant. If we did not have that factor out there, it would be a different discussion. We will take the full amount of time that we need to to make sure we can get to a point where we can create those jobs. Create the jobs there and create jobs in other parts of the state without creating a 100 million hole in the state budget. Isthere is no doubt that it not an easy situation, but that is where you have to be a tough negotiator. Make sure that you have the best interest of the state as a whole in mind. You can bring together the parties to do something good for the state. I think we have that opportunity here. But we have to make sure we get people to the table. That is what i have done through my entire career, is billed those kinds of Public Private partnerships to make sure that we end up on the right side of this. This is one of those were my opponent, and supporters of her, criticize us when they ignore the fact of the federal government took nine years. Both the obama and bush administrations drag this out because they needed the time to make a decision. Were going to take the time to make sure that we do not put a hole in the state budget. We started negotiating, and are going to continue that, but we are going to put the stewardship of taxpayer money first. I see that you would like to press for specifics. Would you reset your question . You set a significant number of jobs. 1000,a set number 2000, or a revenue number that you would need to see in the report . It would need to be in excess of 500 jobs, but in we need to look at not only the direct jobs, but also the Multiplier Effect from additional people spending that money in the community. I would look at both the direct and indirect jobs. That wee, we make sure add jobs and kenosha and do not subtract in other parts of the city in kenosha and do not subtract in other parts of the state. For next from a fox news anchor. Or next question from a fox news anchor. Sadly, it is not being used in the fall due to a collapse by the brewers, but miller park is here. Theould not be here without public support and persistence of then governor tommy. Likely that whoever wins will have to deal with an issue with the, who could be seattle Milwaukee Bucks, who could be seattle bound. Would you allocate public funding to create a new arena, or would you pledge to block state tax dollars needed to build the project . Governor, i believe it is your turn to inbound the ball. Good metaphor. I have two sons who love to go bucksucks buck g games. In the past, and i will repeat tonight, i do not support the sales tax for this project are other projects. But i do think we should look at is what is the actual value not the theoretical value, but the Milwaukee Bucks as a team bringing into the state of wisconsin in terms of revenue to the state that we would otherwise lose. I think you are right, the mba has said that if by 2017 they are not up and going here, they are going somewhere else. We do not want that. T of our goal is to assess we have been working on that over the past few months assess the actual amount that the milwaukee looks and their because the players and the visiting players are taxed on a prorated basis when they play a game what is the actual dollar amount, and what would we lose. That is a legitimate basis on which to begin a discussion. Your response . Our group and heartland, not too far away, and i certainly remember watching the ducks when they won the championship in 1971. That we can see in a community from having a thriving nba franchise. As i mentioned previously, what we have seen right now is that Milwaukee County has not come back from the recession. Six more years before we get to prerecession employment. We have to look at what investments are needed to have a thriving milwaukee economy. Lot, not onlys a directly to milwaukee but to other communities around it and certainly to the state. Thatw from my experience sometimes you need to make investments in order to grow. The public option should be on the table but it should be the last one, and we have to protect the taxpayers here. But we have to understand the impact it has on the community, not only the direct impact but the indirect impact on the lucky. On the lucky. Milwaukee. We have to make sure that we are thriving and keeping young people in the community, and sports teams play a role in that. I want to look at that from a business perspective. What is the impact overall the community, how can we bring people together in Public Private partnership to make that happen will protecting while protecting the taxpayer. I love milwaukee. Why sons were born at st. Joseph here. I love this community and i love the state. I want to make sure that my sons and others like them want to stay here. Part of that is quality of life, which is not just the bucks, but all the great assets we have across the state. I want to make sure that we do that responsibly and the taxandspend policies in place before i came into office are responsible for problems. I do not want to repeat those. This is an important decision for milwaukee. I applaud the owners and between the leaders that are putting resources into this. And Community Leaders that are putting resources into this. As governor, i want to look at how we make this happen. Again, we need to protect the taxpayers, but a lot is on the line here, and i am going to take a position to make this happen. Back to charles benson. We have seen a huge tv battle over these ads saying who would do a better job creating jobs, throwing numbers out. Sentinelukee journal analyzed the numbers and found that wisconsin lagged the nation for growth for the past 10 years , including Governor Walkers urkes years in commerce. Give me some place that will allow the state to up perform the country. Plays that will allow the state to outperform the country. That is why im running for governor. Steps tot taking the make sure that wisconsin has a thriving and growing economy. That is why i laid out in my plan five Core Strategies to make this work. These are five strategies that are unique to wisconsin, ones that i think will work here, that are the best ideas i gathered from across the country. Two of them i could go on for a lot more than a minute 30 on this. It is on workforce training, college affordability. Small businesses being able to grow. Are 46 in the country in terms of new businesses started, and it is new Business Growth that actually creates 70 of jobs that are created. When mir in the bottom five of the country, it is not good enough. We are in the bottom five of the country, it is not good enough. We need to make sure that we keep good people and the workforce and they stay in our communities. That we have a strong Public Education system, kindergarten all the way through university. After bring down the cost of college, because 70 of the jobs created in the future require education and training past high school. It will take a lot more, and right now, we do not have a plan or vision of how we can make sure that wisconsin is actually leading the midwest instead of gging. Ng la we have an exciting plan and we are building it. My opponents plan is based on some of the things we are doing. Some of the questions and we made to bring Water Technology here. I was just an chippewa valley for the new Energy Center they have their the technical college. We have invested in those. What we need to build on breadandbutter, manufacturing and agriculture. We will accelerate the amount of growth and those Key Industries in the coming years in those Key Industries in the coming years. But it is not your grandma and grandpas markets. We have seen an increase in imports and exports. This reckoning those areas and going into new areas, beverages, clean energy, biotech. The things that we have invested in our evolving. Our plan will continue to come back. In this area, i think we agree, it is about investing in education, but we target investments. We just 28 Million Dollars more this summer in buying down the wait list into technical put 28 million more this summer into buying down the wait list and technical colleges. We want to grow off of that. The journal sentinel review the jobs plan and say that it is more of the same. That will not get the job done. It will not move the needle. We have to be more aggressive about the investment that we have. What i have seen for Governor Walker is that he believes that if you give tax breaks to those at the top it creates jobs. I have a business person, i know how jobs get created. You need to have small Business Growth, workforce training. You have to have a real plan, and it has to be aggressive. 8400 new jobs were created last month rid that is the best september for more than a decade. Unemployment is down to 5. 5 . The lowest since october 2008. Compare apples to apples. The last time of the Unemployment Rate has been worse work during the three years that my opponent was in commerce. The next question is from kent. Each ofld like to ask you to your reaction to a jobs related issue of the euro faced in your and pain. There is a saying in politics, the buck stops here. Heaven a when asked about your failure to reach your stated goal on jobs, you blame that on uncertainty due to capital protest and recalls. Rke, you blame the controversy over the multiple copied passages on your jobs plan on a consultant, saying he should not abuse the same words. How much responsibility or blame deal except for those situations having occurred, and should be do you accept for those situations having occurred, and should voters hold you accountable . Over 133,000ost 130 3000 jobs due to the policies of my predecessor. I met people who took a cuts and lost her jobs, like michael from heartland, who about a press operator for 20 years, only to see his job eliminated during the downsizing. Those are real people. So i set a big goal, 250,000 jobs. Because i believe in wisconsin. We are not done yet, but we have come a long way. Over 100,000 new jobs in the three and a half years since we have been in office. This funding more work to be done. As voters look at the contrast, i do not think they will blame us or criticize us for ending big. Aiming at big. Look at the contrast between us. In the last three years, we have created twice as many jobs as were created during the three years that my opponent was in charge of the department of commerce under governor doyle. At that time, we were 42nd in the country for job creation. Off ae just come september with the best september for private job creation in more than a decade. The gun is a good sign for the future. I think that is a good sign for the future. With the number of times that Governor Walker has mentioned jim doyle, i do get is clear that he would rather be running against him than me. We are different people. I am a business executive, and that is the experience i bring to this. As for being the secretary, i would like to clarify, the and employment was 4. 8 percent, and we had more jobs than we have currently. Governor walker is cherry picking numbers. The fact is, we are not keeping up in terms of job creation. 10 midwestern states, and we are 10th if you take the entirety of the term that he has been in office. We do need leadership and we need a real plan, a solid plan. That is my jobs plan. I have been straight from the start in saying that these are to best ideas that we need make sure that wisconsin is a thriving and growing economy. I sat down with the number people, with michael porter, the global guerrilla on clusters, and other folks were experts in those fields. Expert that i cut ties with use ideas in similar plans to great plans are about great ideas, and the more that they are used elsewhere and proven successful, that is what is going to make sure we are able wisconsinsonsin economy forward. In my plan, i lay out my metrics and how people can judge me on the job. This is one of the things that people hate about politics, when someone says something and do something different. My opponent worked for jim , ie, she said, quote support his policies entirely. Now she says something different. She is saying the body of work is based on her time at harvard and her personal experience, and then we found someone else had written the plan. I am all for taking good ideas. I just credit them for it. Governor walker is just trying to distract from his own jobs failure, and failure of achieving the promise that he created. Based on my is experience, which runs hundreds of attack ads against me. To try and question my integrity is just trying to distract from that failure on jobs. That is something that is not accurate and also something that does not reflect wisconsins future and the plan for moving forward. With go to the next question from mike. Thatis dmv report shows one of 85 people died 185 people died in drunk driving release related crashes last year alone. Wisconsin is the only state in the nation where i first drunk revving offenses a ticket and not a crime. The attorney generals do not support criminalizing. Do you support criminalizing, and what are your ideas to deal with the problem . I am on record as saying that it should be a misdemeanor. Not enoughthere are consequences for the first offense, and we have to make sure that there are consequences. Not only is it 185 deaths, 5000 crashes that are alcoholrelated. This is costing us, costing our society a lot of money along with the personal injury that causes. We have to take a tougher stance on this. By thebeen endorsed Wisconsin Professional Police association, and i will work with Law Enforcement to make sure that we have in place what we need to cut down on the number of fatalities, cut down on the number of crashes. Thatlso work to make sure this is not overburden our Justice System by having alternative methods to address this. We also have to make sure the people who love addiction problems are able to get treatments. Right now, we do not have tough enough consequences that are going to make a difference in really addressing this. We have not moved the needle enough. December wisconsin to join the rest of the country and realize that this is something that is it is time for wisconsin to join the rest of the country and realize that this is something that is important. This is one of those tragic issues. I remember, years ago, when i was first elected, one of the most heartwrenching cases we had to talk about was a family from an area our area that had lost a son because some of you have been a multiple, repeat offender. The problems are not just the numbers, it is the number of people who have been out multiple times committing drunk driving. Agree with the attorney general candidates that the first time offenders, criminalizing that is not the answer. It is going after repeat offenders, toughening up the penalties. I think this is an issue that republicans and democrats can come together and work on. For me, it is one of those were i will work with Law Enforcement and the police. I have endorsement of the men and women in the Milwaukee Police association, and the troopers association. They are the people on the road to understand that you have to crack down on the people who are repeating collectivity over and over again. The activity over and over again. Governor walker has had a four years to address this. You would avoid repeat offenders if there were tougher penalties with the first offense. People need to know, right off the star, before they get into habits that there are real consequences. Again, it is one of those t the annualjust a governors conference on traffic safety. We have actually seen traffic accidents without. Go down. Were going to continue to build off of that. The waitresses that is to crackdown on repeat offenders, show the consequences are serious, particularly for those theback on the road way and that is who on repeat offenders. Is likely to you god, let me copy story about a family. They own a small business, raised for a great kids, and, own a home. You have done everything that asked him. The home that they own happens to be one of the mostlwaukees dangerous neighborhood. They cannot sit on their front porch because of gunfire. They are prisoners in their own homes. Specifically and give me specifics, please two or three reasons that the family will be safer and central city violence will be addressed if you are elected governor. First off, leaving just a few blocks away from milwaukee, being here often, and having my kids be raised nearby here, that is an issue that i have seen all too often on each of your programs in the past. It is a challenge, not just now, but in the past. One of the most important things in the past year was working with the city of milwaukee, coming together, republicans and democrats, to support funding for the shot spotter program. We would like to expand that in the future. It is a good pilot to begin with. We can find out, with remarkable accuracy, not only were the shots were fired, but the pool police resources. Two pool police resources. When they go on look at this to begin with, many of the individual instances in which a shot was fired, very few times do people call it in. We have to provide security and safety that a family like that needs here and across the state of wisconsin, particularly in the lucky. In milwaukee. Issue,s a very serious and you think that even in one of our own cities, families cannot be outside and feel safe, means we need to make changes. The things that Governor Walker has done has made it more difficult. To municipalities, which strains budgets in terms of providing police and fire and local services. According to the latest fbi reports, we have seen an increase in violent crimes, second in the midwest. Out of 10 states, the second largest increase in violent crime. We are not doing enough to read we have to provide Adequate Funding to communities to fight this. Mentionsrnor walker shot spotter, this was something that he would not include in his budget. He turned down the request by milwaukee to do that. It was only after pressure was put on that they resorted to partial funding. Enough is not being done. I would work with Law Enforcement to it and if i other ways that they can be successful, work with Community Groups and encourage the police to work with Community Groups, so that it has a grassroots. Ffort and we have to improve the job situation in the central city. We know that, when we increase employment, crime goes down. It cannot be about just Law Enforcement, it has to be Economic Development. Facts. N, here are the the fact is that because of our reforms, in the first year alone , 5 million. 25 million. They have money to add to the police department, and raises to Public Employees in the city of city of milwaukee. We have a lot of work to do. They have to realize that this takes a concerted effort. It is not easy work. It will be difficult work. But it means bringing people together and it is the type of thatc private partnership i created around education and closing the achievement gap in madison. We have 1000 teens in this program, mostly first in their family to do so. It was the schools, the boys and girls club, our universities. That is how you address those issues, bring people together. Towe have three minutes left go before we transition to closing statements, so we will have one more final question. We have to shorten responses to one minute with no rebuttal time. We go to Charles Manson for the final question. I audible to ted. I think we have time for a short, fun question. A personality question. You are forbidden for campaigning from campaigning for one day, doctors orders. You are told to get out on two wheels. Where in wisconsin are you going . Who are you bringing . And why are you going there . Wouldve my routes is from 108 up to the falls. I would go on that min pin over to scenic highway 35 and then i would pan over to scenic highway 35. And i would take my buddies and i like to go riding harleys with. I would head towards heartland, where i grew up. Sisters, two w of my sisters and their families live. Two of my sisters and their families live. That is a great area, and the heartland holy hill area, one of the most evil areas of the state, and just mending time with family. Nephew all the way up, that is what i would do. Thank you, panelists, for the questions. It is time for threeminute closing statements. Governor walker, you are first. My first job as a kid was working at a dishwasher. It is amazing to me to think about the son of a smalltown minister and a parttime secretary growing up to be the leader of this great state. For that honor, i want to thank you, the voters. I ask for the opportunity to do it again for the next four years. I want to thank the moderator and the panel and my opponent for joining us tonight, and all of you for tuning in. When i took office, wisconsin had lost 100 and 30,000 jobs. What hundred 30,000 jobs. 103000 jobs. Taxes were up, tuition was up. We had a 3. 6 billion budget deficit billion dollar budget deficit. As i mentioned at the beginning and repeated throughout the activities, we have a september were we shall the creation of a thousand 400 new jobs in the saw the creation of 8400 new jobs in the state. Unemployment is at a low. We ranked fifth in the nation for manufacturing jobs. Than 100 million to worker training to help people get the skills that they need. Billion deficit entered into a surplus, the oldfashioned way, by paying our bills off. The Rainy Day Fund is 165 times bigger than when we took office. We took the surplus and invested it into tax cuts that are so effective that a typical family. Ill see an extra 322 we froze tuition for the first time at all of our uw campuses for two w years in a row. Two years in a row. We want to put more money into helping cancer patients. Money into Mental Health services than any governor in a quartercentury. Helpeated a new program to people with disabilities find meaningful employment within communities. Looking ahead, we have a plan to make the next four years even better, to build off the successes and make it even. Etter four years from now i invite you to go to scott walker. Com and look at the details. It is a plan to make sure that everyone that wants a job can find a job, help you keep more of your paycheck, learn more to earn more, and move from dependence to work. Growing up as a kid, i do not rub or anyone and my class who said, hey scott, someday, when i grow up, i want to be dependent on my government. Freedom and prosperity does not come from the government. It comes from empowering people. That is the american dream. I want to help everybody live their piece of the american dream, and that is why i ask for your vote. I know wisconsin can do better. By ensuring that everyone has a fair shot, it will do better Governor Walker has had four years, and his approach, the push those at the top ahead of you, just is not working. We are dead last in the midwest in terms of job creation. And it is not getting any better. 2014 is on track to be the worst year in job creation of the last five years. Tax cuts for millionaires and special interest is not create jobs. Growing the middle class does. If our economy had just kept pace with the rest of the country over the last three years, our economy would be 4 billion a year bigger. That is 4 billion tickets spent in local communities and businesses. To fundtax base infrastructure while reducing taxes. Think about what that means to you. A better Neighborhood School for your children. College that is more affordable. Greater Economic Security in your retirement. The failure of the last four years is far too real for far too many. Some familywas down has seen their real income declined by 3000. I will put politics aside and focus on what works. I do not care if an idea is a democrat or republican idea, just that it gets results. Along with ensuring a fair shot for everyone, i want to change the tone. Governor walkers approach, in his own words, has been to divide and conquer. That is not the wisconsin way. We have to remember that we are all on the same team, and it should not matter whether democrat or republican, we have to put politics aside and just get the job done. Havethe direction that i laid out, i know that, based on my experience with business, we can do this. We can be a top 10 driving economy, the leader in the midwest. My career has been seeing the possibilities, taking on challenges. Whether it is from leading expanding the boys and girls club, serving as secretary in the department of commerce, or creating an Educational Initiative that has opened doors for nearly 1000 teens, i see the possibilities in the work that we can do in wisconsin to move wisconsin forward. I cannot wait to get to work as your governor. We have everything that we need to be a growing, thriving, innovative state that is a leader across the country. On novemberr vote fourth, and to join me in building a wisconsin that works for everyone. Thank you. That wraps up the second of two debates. Candidates, thanks to the candidates, our panelists, and viewers. Thank you and good night. That concludes the debate between the wisconsin gubernatorial candidates, immigrant mary burke democrat mary burke and republican scott walker. Broadcasters Work Together to toduce this debate in order ensure that every citizen of wisconsin has an opportunity to hear and see the two leading candidates for governor. The debate has been sponsored by wba foundation, and aarp of wisconsin. We would like to thank the candidates for their participation, as well as the , and panelists. Remember to vote on november 4. The wisconsin the Broadcasters Association, thank you and good night. Now, here is a look at some of the campaign ads that are currently running in connection with the wisconsin governors race. Burke lied about her jobs plan. It turns out that it was plagiarism. And now she is attacking a scott walkers record on jobs. Attacks that are false. She is twisting the numbers, it is not the first time. The truth . In the last year, wisconsin ranked third in midwest jobs growth. Wisconsin gained 1000 jobs under scott walker. He made a pledge. 250,000 new jobs by the end of our first term. Itand asked us to hold us to. Into it or it today, wisconsin is dead last in midwestern jobs growth. And those 250,000 jobs, not even close. Broken promises, dead last in jobs. Scott walker is not working for you. It has been called the lie of the year. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. And mary burke supports it. It does not mean that the government will tell you which doctors to go to or which plans to have. But while millions have lost their actors and plans, mary burke shows that she supports health care unequivocally and wants to expand it. Wisconsin cannot afford mary woburke you know who had a good idea about taxes . Ronald reagan. The expanded the earned income tax credit. You know who had a bad idea . Governor walker. He did the opposite, cutting taxes for the wealthy and raising them on 100,000 wisconsin families. Raising taxes on working families is not just bad economics, it is wrong. Mary burke, governor. Cspanse watching 2014 coverage. , more than 100 debates were control of congress. You can like us on facebook. Here are some of the comments with debate with wisconsin. Charles says that the issue with ms. Burke is that she does not seem to grasp economics. Valerie says that Governor Walker lies, cheats, and steals from education and other programs. It savings will hurt wisconsin in the long run. And from linda, scott walker is one of the worst learners in the usa. He will work for the koch , and didntt you even want wisconsinites to vote. Russell writes that work lies in plagiarizes, and has done nothing. Cspan onllow twitter, like us on facebook, and share your thoughts. 2015 student camera competition is underway. 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