As far as being in south florida near the miami area, you listen and you of the cubans would think miami was a one horse town. They did everything, they built everything, and everybody else was sitting eating bonbons. Guest i just want to correct once again. The wet foot dry foot did start with president clinton after a migration crisis in 1994 or 19 the nice six 1996. The gentleman may be reviewed referring to the cuban adjustment act that dealt with the legal status of cubans that came early in the revolution. That legislation was passed in 1966. That is different from an executive policy taken by president clinton in the mid1990s. Host we have one more call. Independents. For caller i want to make sure im clear on this. When you say things that trump stepped back, it is things the cuban government will benefit from, correct . Guest actually, americans can continue going to airbnbs. Americans can go to cuban hotels as long as that hotel is not owned and operated by the cuban military or security services. We did a study, my university along with brookings institutions, that looked at cuban tourism. We found about 40 of the rooms in cuba are at hotels owned and operated by the cuban military, which means that in addition to the airbnb locations, about 50 to 60 of the hotels are still available. Americans who do travel under the new restrictions cannot stay at those hotels, at state hotels. How do you implement and how can you follow or monitor or audit where americans stay . It will be an interesting enforcement exercise. At least, that is how i understand the policy change to be. Host frank mora directs the latin and Caribbean Center at Florida UniversityFlorida International university. Thank you for your time this morning. We appreciate it. Stay with us. We will have a conversation next about drone used by the military. What about disposable drones . What could this mean for the future of warfare . We will find out more next during our segment with Joe Pappalardo. Stay with us. This weekend, book tv on cspan2 features a Panel Discussion on race in america moderated 15 eastern by the Washington Bureau chief for american urban radio networks. These two ladies here, i remember being a young lady watching them talk for us when we did not have voices. They basically let us know that we count, we matter, in a time when many of us are not at the table. What it surely chisholm say . If you dont have a seat at the table, bring a folding chair. , other authors. At 1 15 eastern, the Pulitzer Prize winning historian speaks with Charles Gibson about his collection of speeches on american principles. I began to think about the great president s down the years who have been avid readers of history. Many of them wrote history, including john kennedy. Even those who did not have the benefit of a College Education like harry truman read history all their lives. Essential toit is the role of the leader, whether it is the presidency or leadership of any kind. Not cause and effect. History matters. Washington journal continues. Host welcome back. It is time for our weekly spotlight on magazines. This week, we are talking about a piece in Popular Mechanics written by Joe Pappalardo about the air forces new weapon, disposable drones. Thanks for being with us. People have a better sense of the traditional drones. What are disposable drones, apart from what they sound might . Guest sure. One of the interesting things happening now in military technology is drones are getting smaller and more capable and , soiles are getting smarter the evolution of these two systems are merging together so it is harder to tell one from the other. A missile that gets fired from an airplane that has certain capabilities can fly, loiter over a target, strike exactly when the pilot wants it to, sort of having a next her wing man extra we man launch from your airplane. If a missile is smart enough to do that, is it a drone . It almost does not matter. The end capability of what it can do is what the air force is interested in. That is forcing design and Strategic Decisions on what they want to carry. Host we have a rendering from your article. What is wrong with the current drones the military is using . Guest range. Most of the problems come from range. The air force likes to go into places, even if they are defended by ground launch missiles or other aircraft, and strike targets on the ground. That can be enabled with drones. They are great at spying ahead, looking down at whatever the target is going to be, clearing the way, making sure the radar system of the enemy do not shoot at demand airplanes. Drones are great at doing that. Airplanes have to carry them in because the range has been so limited. That is where it is going. Airlaunched drones are the next, new big thing. What they look for is very much up for debate. World are around the actively researching a slew of different designs which makes it very interesting for journalists to cover. Host it also strikes me disposable drones could be particularly useful if a drone goes down in Enemy Territory. Guest the real point is to keep the pilots safe. Of the bubble with manned aircraft but send a drone into do whatever you need , intelligence gathering, surveillance, and reconnaissance, the pilot will be safer and the mission can continue. Also, if a drone gets shot down, it is not an international incident. There is not a pilot at risk. There is not a search and rescue operation that has to be done for the pilot. The footprint of the operation can be a lot smaller and more efficient if there are drones involved. Again, you have to get them there. The disposable part comes in when if the drone does not have the range to get there, it does not have the range to get home. You have to make them cheap enough you can lose them in combat and capable enough they can get the job done. That is the design tradeoff the air force and other people are looking at now. Host talking with Joe Pappalardo about his piece in Popular Mechanics about disposable drones. We want to take your calls from republicans, democrats, and independents. Mentioned it is a lot of fun for journalists to cover the designs of these things. Which once seen most promising . Guest there seem to be two general fools of thought when it comes to the disposable or airlaunched drones. One would be bring a lot of them. That is one of the experiments we bring up in the magazine. Those are sixinch drones carried kind of an amazing test. A couple of fighter planes carried 103 of these small drones and let them out in a swarm. What is really interesting is the swarm communicated with each other to separate, do different tasks. Before them goes down, they know it. The other drones know it and will fill in. It is called selfhealing. If you want to do have a lot released over one area, they have proven they can do this. That is advantageous in a lot of ways, especially given that these drones together can accomplish something one drone could do but there is a lot of redundancy. That is one pool of thought. That is the perdix experiment. That is exciting and new. On the other end of the spectrum is highly capable wingmen you they airlaunch and would be another Fighter Aircraft that could do the risk your missions. Right now, the Paris Air Show is gearing up. The europeans have a very good stealthyo create a radarevading wingmen drone it would carry on a fighter and launch. It could go ahead of your manned aircraft and do everything the man aircraft might want to do, pave the way for an airstrike or something. Opposite queued up ways of getting to the same problem, which is how to make a drone that cannot from the aircraft that can do exactly what you want it to do and have it either be expendable or smart enough to return home or to another aircraft for docking. There is research into making them not disposable. Hese are all design tradeoffs when you look at the future of warfare, these are the systems and engineering challenges they have to solve to get this to the next level, to get the drone to be even more ubiquitous in the battle space. Host you mentioned drones becoming even more ubiquitous. Drones are controversial because people say they account for the growing number of civilian casualties in paces places of conflict. Tell us more about that. Guest there are two ways of looking at it, as with anything. One, you would say look at the trend from world war ii to today. It takes fewer bombs dropped on any target to destroy it. Precision weapons have reduced civilian casualties historically speaking in a dramatic way. However, if you do not have the political will to act, you are more apt to use these weapons. There are more airstrikes but they are more precise. Now we are talking about the future. Now we are talking about something that could not only strike exactly where you want it to strike but when you want it to strike. If some of these civilian casualties are caused because you are blowing up a house that has weapons in it or you are blowing up a hardened shelter located near a hospital , what if he fired the missileflash drone and it loiters over the target for a day waiting for the highvalue target to come out an s. U. V. Or waiting for the airplane to come out of the bunker or what have you . It will hit it exactly at that moment where the civilian casualties will be the lightest. That is the kind of tactical flexibility these drones provide. That would in theory reduce civilian casualties as well. These things are getting more precise instead of less. The more precise it gets, the more you are tempted to use them. That is the tradeoff. That is over my pay grade, but that is where the technology is pushing the debate. Host the phone lines are lighting up. Lets go to the phones. We have jack calling in from bloomfield, new jersey, on the independent line. Caller good morning. A question for the author. Im coming from a former Army Perspective where air Defense Artillery has a branch stagnant for a long time. Now the enemy gets a vote, too. As drones become cheaper and smaller and more ubiquitous on if yould, im curious know anything about what future trends might look like as a countermeasure from air Defense Artillery perspective . Im sure you are familiar with the recent episode where a Patriot Missile was used to engage several thousand dollars worth of drones. Im not sure exactly who flew it. Is a was used to engage it. Their tradeoff is we are talking millions of dollars of a weapon to she invesco a cheap capability as soon can be flooded with mass. I wonder if you know anything about it from your end. Thank you. Guest there is a booming industry and killing drones in military circles because of what the caller is saying. He is spot on. There are a lot of systems, drones hunting drones, everything from nets to lasers. There is a program to mount a laser on a humvee which can shoot a drone while the humvee is moving. All you have to do is blind the drone or burn a hole in it and it will render ineffective. Shooting a highend missile a surfacetoair missile designed to hit a fastmoving aircraft or enemy fighter is not a good way of knocking drones out of the sky. But rest assured, there are a lot of people looking at ways of downing these because they know what a risk they are. You have to have a radar system and way to detect them. They are pretty small. That is part of their appeal. They come in all shapes and sizes. That is definitely part of what the army and air force, everyone is looking at ways of knocking these cheap things down without breaking the bank doing it. Host we have a question from jan via tweet. Cant they think of something good to use them for . What other uses for these drones . Guest the uses are only limited by your imagination and the f. A. A. Hugeh and rescue is a booming area for drone use. One of then paris, most popular drones in the world have been used on the battlefield for years and years. Boeing owns the subsidiary that makes these. They have been operating in australia Monitoring Oil pipelines in australia for a couple of years to make sure they know how to do that. They are marketing that internationally. Scientific research, monitoring wildlife, Monitoring Oil pipelines. Small drones do bridge inspections. Wedding photography. The proliferation is not limited to military uses at all. The fact it came out of the military seems to and the wardrobe people think predators and things dropping hellfire. That is a legacy that hopefully will change as people see more civilian uses from these. Nmanned aircraft the limitations are not really based on engineering but more political or the publics. Feeling about them. There is no reason you cannot get in an airplane now that has no pilot and fly from one city to the other. Most of that flight is regulated by the Flight Control computer anyway, but people are leery about getting an airplane that does not have a pilot. The public is going to have to be brought along and made aware the drone world is bigger than just the military. Having said that, the military has some Interesting Research and Development Money to spend. We tend to focus on whether it is going. The civilian uses trail behind quickly these days. Host lets go to joe who has been patiently holding the line in pennsylvania. He is a democrat. Caller how are you doing . Host great, thank you. Caller are there any concerns in your mind with these disposable drones . If one were to go down in Enemy Territory used in a military application, they would be recovered, as to the technology and engineering within it that they might be able to utilize for their benefits to disable them . That is my question. Guest the short answer, yes. That is part of the engineering tradeoff. If you make them too capable and they go down, they can be reverse engineered. You can tell what they can and cannot see, what payload they are carrying, if they are carrying something that could intercept intelligence, than the enemy would know that is what the drone is doing. Part of making disposable drones is making them cable capable enough but dumb enough that they can be lost and that risk is minimized. If an Army Helicopter goes down, one of the things the army does is blow it up on the ground to keep an enemy from learning about the system or even getting propaganda. Becomeave gone down and more trophies used for information warfare, what they call propaganda. That is part of the tradeoff. And yes, it is a concern. The other thing you hinted at which is another concern is if these drones are talking to each other, and someone could intercept that signal and make that entire swarm useless. That security, the cyber security, is also extremely important. That is why if you make them smarter, they are operating independently, they are not depending on a direct signal from an operator on the ground. That tends to be a more secure way of operating a drone. They can be jammed and will do their thing even if you lose the signal. Those are some of the peripheral engineering problems that go into what you want your drone to do, how you make it, and how advanced you make it. That is a shrewd question indefinitely something people have to consider on the front and when they are making them, not operating them. From we have william chesapeake, virginia, on the line for independents. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, basically what we have is Popular Mechanics operating for the militaryindustrial complex. I think those magazines are best use as 12 paper. How much does this cost . They are not good for toilet paper. They cost a lot but they cost less than unmanned airplanes. Airplanes air systemsg for all the that keep them alive. That is a lot more extensive to make and more complicated engineering. The other way they are cheaper in the long run is that they can stay in the air longer. S, can put a youtube u unmanned aircraft, over a target for a limited time. Can sleep and eat and not everything else. A drone state over a target a lot longer. That is a cost savings. Pentagon, the caller may not believe it, does not want to waste money. They are good at wasting money, but that is not their goal. It is appealing to have a cheaper solution. Drones are a cheaper solution for them, as well as not putting people in harms way and having a smaller footprint, being able to cover more ground for efficiently. That is what is driving the pentagons thinking in this. Host taking your calls as always. The line for republicans, democrats, and independents. In washington, d. C. , calling on the line for independents. Good morning. Caller thank you for taking my call. The first thing that came to my mind, being a woman and not a military person, is that makes us in the United States more vulnerable. One of the good things about our country is that we are usually out of the line of fire, the ordinary line of fire. Protected . Americans because once we get a technology, other countries copy it very quickly and it can be too, so we are, in the line of fire. Any community, anytime, and certainly capitals. I live in the capital and him always thoughtful that we are in the eye of the enemy. Do ton earth do they protect ourselves against drones . Thank you. Guest sure, sure. The lies of the drone does pose threats to the u. S. Military overseas. The idea, this goes from drone which, the which is longrange missile that can reach the United States has been pointed at us for a long time. You cannot really blame drones for that. From a domestic terrorism perspective there is a lot of worry that you can take an one, put anunter dr expose on it, and flight into a public gathering. That is a real fear. The Drone Industry has addressed that in some ways. You have to fly a route before you program the g. P. S. To make your drone fly automatically some with. To flyt program a drone into the white house lawn unless i have already flown into it once. That is not the most comforting feeling. But honestly, there are easier ways to kill lots of people than with a drone. Unfortunately, we see that all the time with guns, vehicles. Even driving through a crowd is a more efficient way of killing a lot of folks than flying a drone. Realis not something controlled aircraft pilots have not been able to do for a long time as well. I think the domestic threat of drones is a little overrated. However, there are so many of them that there are bound to be more incidents that come up. There are bad actors that will do bad things with whatever Technology Comes out. Put out versus other people, that is true as a rule. However, there are so many independent Drone Research and develop and shops across the world now, a lot of the military driven, they do not need our technology necessarily. There are fantastic Drone Research programs and they have direct purposes. They want to make sure they can identify ships that are coming so they can dominate the waterways off of china. They have got very specific things they want to do with their drones. Attackingt include the domestic United States. I hope that answers anns question. Host we have michael calling in from uniontown, pennsylvania. How are you . Caller hanging in there. I am an older guy. The drone stuff is new for me. A drone as small as they say they are, do they or do they just fly around spotting stuff and somebody else goes and attacks . Like, whatng and im kind of weapon could they have on there that would do any kind of damage . I am not into this, so that is my only question. Do they actually attack somebody . And if they do, with what . As small as they are, what could you attack somebody with . I dont know. I am looking at it. Guest he makes a good point. You go to radioshack or Sharper Image nca drone about this size. You go to the air and space museum and see how big these drones are. Give us a sense of the size and scale here. Lethality of the drone in a lot of ways is based on the size and the warhead it can carry. Drones are best at spotting things. They are best at flying over targets, staying over for a long time, flying into a dangerous place and spotting targets without putting a pilot at risk. The most dangerous thing about drone is its ability to spot targetsplace and spotting targes without putting a pilot at and r designator on it. It can guide a munition to the target. That makes it one of the most Dangerous Things on the battlefield even if it is small. The shrinking size of sensors and electronics has made small drones even more lethal from an information perspective. The more information they can gather, more lethal the United States military is going to be because they can employ precision weapons. Position weapons. Just because it is small does not mean it is not a threat. We go back to the imaginations that get ammunitions. The israelis are marketing something right now in paris where they have a five and 10 kilogram, about a 20 pound warhead that can be delivered on point when they want it to be there. It depends on the size of the drone and they are coming in all shapes and sizes. There is a global hawk that can take off and estate over the atlantic ocean, stay up for a long time. Noa uses them for hurricane hunting, they are jet powered drones, the reaper and predator are of that mold. Then there are smaller quad copters and a switchblade can be fired, so you carry that into combat and you shoot it into the air and the wings come out and they can do reconnaissance for a small unit. They come in all shapes and sizes. If y