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If you want to post on our social media pages do so on twitter at cspan wj and if you want to make a longer response you can do so on facebook. Com cspan. The decision coming out yesterday comprises the headlines of all the major newspapers today. To the decisions out of the Supreme Court yesterday, specifically looking at texas on this health and Safety Standards that were imposed by the texas lawmakers. Those were overturned yesterday and we are going to talk about the larger implications not only for the state of texas but for other providers and it impact on campaign 2016. You can give us a call and make your thoughts known. 202 7488000 four republicans, 202 7488001 four democrats, and 202 7488002 for independents. There was a lot of activity outside the Supreme Court yesterday, people supporting and andblican supporting opposing the decisions. Byponding to the decision the Supreme Court, here is what she had to say. Today women across america have had their Constitutional Rights vindicated. The Supreme Court has sent a clear message to the tactics of politicians who have used underhanded means host that is a little bit of the decision from yesterday. The numbers will be on the screen if you want to give us a call. Pages of the Washington Post they talk about some of the factors that play out especially when it comes to the november alignment test election. While many social conservatives have expected this comfort with donald trump, they need to get behind him. People promptly made up their mind who they are going to vote for, especially people who have been on the fence not really wanting to vote for donald trump. Theybortion advocates say have been very successful statewide in pushing restrictions. States have passed laws making it tougher for women to get abortions, the fifth Straight Year in which antiabortion activist have pushed through a number of laws restricting the procedure. Calls and will go to steve from florida, the republican line. What do you think about the decision . Caller i believe the abortion issue has just become a wedge issue for the Republican Party. The American People have , it isd row versus wade old enough that it is black letter law and it will not be reversed anymore than slavery or any other issue. Which nowg issue becomes a wage issue come wedge issue. People against it should oppose it as it is they can with federal funding but it is time to let it go and accept that the best we can do is limit federal dollars. As far as law, it is now a settled issue for sure. Thank you very much. Host that is steve from florida. Here to talk about the decision yesterday sam baker. Tell us about how the breakdown of the votes came, or at least the decision, and how each side came to its legal arguments supporting and defending. Guest this was a case that if Justice Scalia was still on the bench this would have been a 54 decision. With five votes to strike down texass requirements. The three remaining staunch conservatives. On the other side, the majority opinion was written by Justice Stephen breyer and it is. Xtremely back focused it is very long, detailed. There is not a lot of good quotes and it because it does not sort of in they a super broad legal principle or really try to make a stand. Tois all about, texas tried make this argument and we think that is incorrect for this particular reason. It came up at the trial court and we think they got it right. It is sort of narrowly written but it is so thorough that a lot of people think it might be pretty useful in trying to knock down similar laws in other states. Host for those three who opposed the decision, what were the kind of legal arguments that they put out . Wrote austice alito really long dissent arguing the court should have, should not have taken this case and should have kicked it to a lower court. Onre are several levels which those conservative justices are unhappy. They are unhappy with the outcome first and foremost and that fled into Justice Thomas said, we should just stop holding these regulations. The other conservative justices were hoping and you can see the similar argument, they were hoping for an escape hatch in this case being decided. They wanted to kick it back to a lower court for more factfinding. Reflect both. Host what is the larger implications and how does that affect skates who have some states who have similar laws . Guest this clearly is going to be used, and i think successfully, and a number of the states to knock down similar laws. A couple where you might see that happen pretty quickly, mississippi which has an almost identical law that is actually on hold right now and has been appealed to the Supreme Court. They will probably dispose of that soon. Louisiana, there are 20 some states that have some version of one of the two requirements that texas has. Yearsl take a couple of for all of those to work through the system. Some of them might be able to survive but i think you will see a couple of them knocked down in the courts reasonably soon. Ast sam baker, you have piece that talks about Anthony Kennedy and the title says it is still Anthony Kennedys court but not for long. Can you summarize . Guest this was a case where Anthony Kennedy did not break the majority decision but cast the deciding vote. 4he only reason it was not a 4 split was because he sided with the courts liberals. When you see a highprofile case at the end of the term, it is often Anthony Kennedy casting the deciding vote. He casted the deciding vote on samesex marriage and other small but significant cases last year, citing with the liberals. But if there is a president clinton and if they Senate Confirms her appointee to fill justice glias Justice Scalias seat you will have five and right nowes the only way to win a case is to win kennedy. It gives him a lot of power to decide what the ruling is going to say, what legal basis it reflects, the scope of the legal opinion. His vote is the only way to win. In the future i think we will probably see five democratic , which does not mean every case will be a lock but i do not think kennedy will be the only way to win anymore. You will have a couple of justices jostling for position and he will still be an important vote but will not have quite as much clout over the biggest cases as now. Host sam baker joining us to talk about the decision reached yesterday on the texas case. Thank you for your time. Time,e remainder of our your thoughts on the decision, not only specifically with issues of abortion but with the larger implications of campaign 2016. Republicans,0 four 202 7488000 202 7488001 , democrats. Steve in scranton, pennsylvania, democrat. Caller since texas enacted this law a lot of clinics have closed down. Now that the law has been struck down, does that open texas up for liability lawsuits from forcing those people out of business . Host why is that important to you . Caller i was from texas. But my question is just that, is it going to cause more legal problems from this one decision . Host cliff from brentwood, california, republican line. Caller the Supreme Court with this ruling has raised abortion to the level of a basic fundamental human right as recognized by the constitution alongside other basic, fundamental human rights cited in the constitution like the right to speech or press or the right to assemble. This is extremely significant constitutionally. To state of texas tried establish a minimum medical standard for Abortion Clinics to meet in order to provide this service and they are acting to protect women, as is therefore abortion providers. The Supreme Court has essentially only to meet the standards medically of a veterinary clinic, and this is very problematic. The epa and other departments and agencies are rolling unilaterally that certain institutions have to meet their various standards to stay in business, to maintain their function. Level constitutionally are the rights of these agencies acting upon . At what level constitutionally do they affect do they exist . Justice kennedy is making the switches. He did it on affirmative action and abortion, and his disparate per his disposition these questions, he looks political. Host jim is from erie, pennsylvania, independent line. I am independent. I believe in a womans right but this too may looks like it is about states writes. Ghts. I have some wetland behind my house that has been there forever and the epa came in, state epa, and told me that i was not allowed i was planning on building a shed and they came in and said you cannot build a shed in your backyard. Ok for thee it is epa to come in and tell me what i can do in my own backyard, but at the same time, these people down in texas like the last guy was saying are just trying to make the standards better, and the feds come in and tell them you cannot do that. I think it is about states writes. Rights. People need to look at how this country was set up with regard to that. There was a man last night on television who was a secret Service Agent for 30 years. They had him on and i hope you can get him on cspan because he was telling exactly what the clintons are like in real life. Host we will leave your thoughts there because we want to stay on topic. When it comes to states writes that is part of the editorial in the wall street journal. Burdense undue ,efines an Abortion Case planned parenthood versus casey. The point was to establish the undue burden on women. Of mondays texas decision is to tell the states to forget casey. Herbert in georgia, democrats line. Caller they need to honor the law. It is so hypocritical about the Republican Party. Andgives everybody a will you do not override anybodys will. How do you want to protect the fetus in the womb but here are the same republicans, the same people do not want to protect aboutghts of children ak47s. Ghey are the same as the whi party. They need to abandon their decision. They are Something Else. They need to respect people, respect people how they are. Host this is francis in tennessee, republican mind. Caller good morning. I would like to say the Supreme Court has killed federalism. The states created the union and they had rights in the fourth article of the constitution. And now anything a state does like our voting laws, they are subject to federal decision. We have little power to make our own decisions on the state level anymore. I would also like to say with this decision, we have reached the point completely of abortion on demand. Any reason, any time or place just about. I heard someone say yesterday that what is wrong with back alley abortions . The state of texas cannot put down some kind of ruling or restriction for the clinics, but they do other health clinics, why any kind of role . I think history will judge accordingly because it is millions upon millions of babies getting aborted. They are babies and we should be ashamed. Campaign donald trump did not put out a former state formal statement but there was a statement in bloomberg hasng one of the handles chosen to reach out to christian conservatives and they have done so. They reached out directly in the aftermath of the Supreme Court overturning the texas abortion laws on monday which while deciding against releasing official statements or media postings. Earlier monday, the campaign engaged its recently imported executive evangelical Advisory Board about the ruling, reaffirming trumps commitment to appoint prolife justices to. He nations highest court afterwards, the board released a statement obtained by Bloomberg Politics echoing the campaigns message and referring to a meeting of more than 1000 liters in manhattan last week. York, this is new robert, democrats line. Caller i am wondering if this decision will have any effect on attempts by rightwingers to restrict access to contraception. Host you should know that Hillary Clinton also put out a tweet when it came to the decision that read the fight is not over, the next president has to protect womens health, women wont be punished for exercising their basic right. Stanley, virginia, independent line, our, good morning. Caller i would like to make a comment about the subjects yesterday. This should be a state issue. It is a sad day in america when eight people can make a decision for 300. It is like making one shoe that fits all. There is something wrong with this picture. If there is republicans in they getr democrats, six of the prolife or opposite, that is the way it should go. It should be left up to the states. People have less and less freedom everyday and i think this is a step in the wrong direction, even though i have Great Respect for the law. Host you think it will make it difficult for the states to enact these kind of laws . Caller i think it is, but that is a starting point. How many other things are going to take affect. Other rights are going to be stripped away from us as people. Host does this affect any political decisions you will make when it comes to justices on the Supreme Court . I am prolife and i recognize other people feel differently, but the point is, i want to emphasize, when you have making a decision for 300 Million People it is something wrong with that picture. We need to clean the mess up in washington. The democrats and elite republicans, we need to kick them out and start over. Our country is headed in the wrong direction. Host here is barbara, island washington, democrat line. Hello . Go ahead, barbara. Caller hello . To care andl move ohio, democrats line. Caller thank you for taking my call. I would just like to say that whenever it is republicans and democrats that are supposedly fighting for rights and republican state americans are losing all their freedom, and we have to stop the government from imposing upon us, the difference tween republicans and democrats is that hello . Host you are on, go ahead. Caller republicans are usually trying to stop peoples rights, trying to stop them from getting married, stop them from protecting their reproductive rights, stop them from being able to comingle and come next. Democrats are always fighting for the rights for people to do what they should be able to do. From religious rights to school rights, republicans are always trying to make it about what they want and not what everybody else wants. Abortion, this has been taking care of 40 years ago and they have been fighting it ever since rights stop peoples from doing what the Supreme Court said it is allowed to do. Host one of the groups opposing yesterday was concerned women for america. The president and ceo commented on the decision yesterday. Texas appropriately tried to exercise its authority to protect women but unfortunately, the Supreme Court sided with big abortion. We stand as members of the Prolife Movement saying we will never give up. Aboutext election is Supreme Court justices, lower court justices, and 500 appointees to our government. We must vote. This is a call to action. We will not give up. Decision striking down a law in texas. Call 202 7488000, republicans, 202 7488001,emocrats, 202 7488002 independents. Caller i just wanted to comment ona person who was adopted may 22, 1968. My biological met mother she told me flat out, because we were very close, i said if the law was the other way would you have had me aborted . She said yes. So that is quite a profound thing to hear. Going to say anything more than that as far as where my position is. Host the decision yesterday by the Supreme Court agree or disagree . Caller from what i understand, it was made by four judges on not see howd i do that is even something they should have taken up. Thank you for reminding me. I thought it was very unfair that you would have a 44 decision. That was not smart. Rightrestricted peoples to go and do what the law says they can do, it is a lousy decision. Know, if it made it easier for them to go do with the law says they can do i do not suppose it is a problem. Host that is mark from california. Mike from california on our democrats line. Caller i respect people being against abortion and thinking it is murder but these callers with this baloney about how the actions intend to wipe out the Abortion Centers is just baloney to cite the safety of the woman. There is that, but then, we are all the same. We are all selfish and have our motives. Rightsdy is for states when a particular subject falls your way and other people with a different viewpoint, they think the government is overreaching. The Supreme Courts job is to check up in the states, as in the jim crow when the states grew up, that is too bad. Country,ross the especially all of the christians during jim crow and you watch this crop on tv every night crap on tv every night. The federal government overriding what the states are messing up. Host did you think that texas overreached with the decision it made when it put these restrictions on abortion providers . Caller a majority can do anything in control of the functions of a given area. They can say there is no abortions. We do not care that you are raped, and they thump their chest and think that god is proud of them. I say good luck taking that story to the holy gates because a lot of people who call themselves a christian are not going to get it. Other decisions made by the Supreme Court yesterday concerning former virginia government governor robert mcdonnell, the court on monday tossed out the governors corruption conviction narrowing what it calls the governments boundless interpretation of bribery laws. They vacated the richmond Fourth Circuit of appeals which had rejected mr. Mcdonnells arguments and up and it upheld the jury convictions. That is the Richmond Times dispatch this morning. The wall street journal has a followup story on how that decision by the Supreme Court could affect other similar cases, especially concerning bob menendez. He was indicted on allegations 1 millionaccepted in Campaign Contributions and use the Senate Office to benefit the mans financial and personal interests. A judge threw out some of the bribery charges but many remain. Denies the charges and the Justice Department case is awaiting trial. Donna from cookeville, tennessee, good morning. Caller good morning. I just got one quick comment i would like people to mole over for about five seconds mull over for about five seconds. I saw a Bumper Sticker that said, have you ever noticed that everyone for abortion has already been born . I cannot get that out of my head on this topic. I would just like people to think about that and that is my comment. Kentucky, lisae, on our democrat line. Caller i absolutely do think texas overreached. This has been the law of the land since 1972. It seems like they would take it seems like they would take up other legislation and do something with their time. Court afforded their way photo their way, it would be fun and ended. Dandy. He has close down one in louisville. There is one Abortion Clinic opens in our allstate. To have ane ultrasound before we have an abortion. The abortion itself is 800. They want to make it more difficult even though it is the law of the land. Thank you. Host the New York Times on its website has two sidebyside maps of the United States. One where states have laws where the clinics must meet hospital light requirements, the others would doctors must have admitting privileges to other hospitals. It shows the states that have , both of those provisions struck down in texas, he heard our reporter say it could affect what happens in those states depending what happened in the spring court yesterday. Four republicans and 202 7488000 for democrats. From connecticut, here to stand on the independent line. Caller i think we should help democrats abort as many family members as possible. Thank you. Host josephine in manchester, new hampshire, democrats line. Caller i would like to ask a question to the people who are prolife. Have they ever had to make a decision about an abortion . I have and its a very difficult decision. Cried todays i over iwo days over it. Another question i would like to ask prolifers what do you do with a handicapped child once the child is born . I find the republicans really do not give a damn about it. They do not give a damn whether the child has the care it needs, whether the mother has the care and i think quite a few republicans want to go back to the back alley. Those were my times. Im 94 years old. I remember the back alley. I know of women who have had them, who have cried because they were not able to have children later on in life. Is that where we want to go . Republicans, wake up. Make this procedure a medical procedure safe for the people who need it. It is not your business whether she has the child or not. It is whether she can take care of that child. Wake up, people. Wake up. Thank you. Host mary jane is up next. Mary jane is from massachusetts on our independent line. Caller good morning. Made byhat the decision the Supreme Court should be followed and that texas is incorrect and trying to make abortion go back years as your prior guest spoke. It would be better to have girls and women to have the ability to prevent pregnancies, but if it is a pregnancy that has a reason to be aborted, they should have and not have people continually year after year try to not download an roe versus we decision. Host from ohio, here is steve. Your next. Caller thank you for taking my call. I think this whole issue is just another one of those issues that divides us or is used to divide us based on the calls you are getting. I think this particular example of the Supreme Court is just based on a unique set of circumstances and is based upon the pendulum swinging on this particular issue. Because it is used to divide us, i think well get a lot further if we would do two things. Said when asked if he was prolife or prochoice, he said he was proadoption. When he was mayor of new york city, he promoted adoption and abortions went down, i believe, 13 . Callers who you have heard recently have proven this. One of the things that is really not considered as the psychological damage that abortion does to a woman. If you look at it more from that perspective and look at the fact on the woman, the that fetus has rights, especially as we learn more and more medically, and the psychological damage on women. We would look at proadoption being the best vehicle. I think eventually we will come to that conclusion. Host one of the other decisions out of the Supreme Court yesterday took a look at Domestic Abusers and if they own firearms. The court said monday that people convicted of Domestic Abuse can be prevented from owning a gun. That prompted the first question from Justice Clarence thomas in 10 years. The question for the court was whether the gun ban applies to those convicted under state law of misdemeanor Domestic Abuse and specifically whether assault convictions for reckless conduct could trigger the prohibition. Pennsylvania. Good morning. Nk cspan thina for running the hearings last night. I watched them and i was so proud of our Supreme Court because the argument from texas was clearly unsubstantiated as far as arguments that this was womene benefit of overall. Your earlier caller who was purporting adoption as the way to go, i know that there are people because of their religious beliefs or where ever they derive their own moral forcedns, they are not to have abortions here in the United States, but we know that there are other countries where that happens. Freedom is about choice. If we are truly the land of the free and the home of the brave, then he will let women like me im going to be 57 at the end of this year. 20s, i was not exactly the fullgrown person i wanted to the. I found myself in that situation. I chose abortion. I never regretted it, but if you would have forced me to have that child, then there is the then i would have to make the decision of whether or wanted to give it up. Member turning me into a of like a puppy mill society. There are so many Different Reasons why women get abortions. We know what our bodies can take. We know what we may have ingested or drank or whatever might not make it viable. We know our own personal medical history and it is truly something that a woman has to make a decision on between her and her doctor. Host that is nina from pennsylvania. Let us hear from william in tennessee on the republican line. Caller if she kept her pants up, she would not have had to had no abortion. Just like what happened in orlando, florida, its murder no matter where you. Go. Host taking a look at events that occurred in benghazi, they plan to release a report surrounding the investigation and the 2012 attacks. A portion of the 802 page report obtained by cnn does not offer a scathing indictment of then secretary of state Hillary Clinton, the current Presumptive Democratic president ial nominee, but it does argue intelligence was available that an attack was possible. A former top aid shouldve realized the risk that extremist groups posed to the u. S. Mission in benghazi, according to cnn. It is not clear what additional intelligence would have satisfied either kennedy or the secretary in understanding the Benghazi Mission compound was at risk short of an attack. The select committee taking a look at benghazi, saying the report include some criticisms. The state Department Security measures in benghazi were woefully inadequate as a result of decisions made by officials in the bureau of Diplomatic Security, but absolved miss ,linton of responsibility adding, secretary clinton never personally denied any request for additional security in benghazi. The democrats accuse the report into spending more than 7 million on an investigation that they argue not reveal any substantial new information that would alter the understanding of events. Maureen on our independent line, hello. Caller i think it is amazing that men are still trying to tell women what to do with their bodies. It is so unfair. You cannot put a baby and a woman that she dont want and expect her to keep it if she dont want the baby. She shouldnt be forced to keep the baby. That is not fair to her. As an adult, if you come across a man that puts a baby that you do not want, you should not be forced to have that baby. Little girls 12 years old getting pregnant by grown men, they should not be forced to have these children. They are children themselves. It is just not fair. A man cannot have a baby, so why would he tell a woman where and when to create one . If she dont want it, she should not be forced to have it. It is not fair. If you want it, let him have it. Its his baby. It is not fair to us that you would give us something we dont want. If we dont want, we should not be forced to keep it. Those other lady said it perfectly clear. We are not going back to the time where women are going in basements and all kinds of places that take their lives in their hands because some men gave them a baby they didnt want. That is not right and its not fair. She should have the opportunity to say yes or no to something that is going inside her body. It is her body, not his. If you want a baby, let him go have it. Host let us hear from larry and arkansas on the independent line. When you are born, you start breathing air, and when you die, you stop breathing air. Host one more call on this topic. Rick from pennsylvania on the democrats once. Line. Caller in an effort to make America Great again, the republicans want to take us back to the 1950s where richer women were sometimes shipped over to europe to have abortions. Often they were girlfriends of ceos and politicians. Poorer women were sometimes found dead an in dirty hotel rooms trying to self abort or getting some secondyear med student. That as the republicans answer to make America Great again. That is what i said. Host that is the last copy will take on that topic. We will continue on her discussions with these issues rising from Supreme Court decisions yesterday. The first guest will be Elizabeth Wydra. We would get her reaction to yesterdays ruling and the term of the spring court. Later on, similar conversations with henry olson of the ethics and Public Policy center. 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Watch live on cspan, listen on the cspan radio app, or get video on demand at cspan. Org. You have front row seats to every minute of both conventions on cspan beginning monday, july 18. Announcer washington journal continues. Host our first guest of the morning is Elizabeth Wydra of the constitutional accountability center. She served as the president. Good morning. Guest good morning. Host can you tell us about the center . What do you do . Nonprofit Public Interest law firm that is dedicated to showing that the constitution promotes progressive values and outcomes. We use the text and history of the constitution to argue for greater quality, greater inclusion, stronger democracy, criminal justice, environmental reforms all across the board. We look at the text and history of the constitution and use that methodology. Host so the constitution in your view does show that there are progressive things that can come out of it, especially written so long ago . Guest absolutely. We look at the whole constitution. We do not stop at the 18th century and we look at the amendments that we the people have added over time, particularly the reconstruction amendments. They remove the stain of slavery from 18thcentury documents and wrote the quality and justice and liberty that we espoused in the declaration of independence directly into the text of the constitution. We look at the constitution and take it very seriously. Us toy ways, it allows find common cause across the ideological spectrum. We are progressive, but we are nonpartisan organization. We like to find common cause with libertarians and even conservatives in some cases with the Supreme Court we have been able to do that. Host in your point of view, what did you make of the decision concerning the texas abortion law . Guest my organization filed a brief and that case and we brought together the jurisprudence of Justice Kennedy, linking his Marriage Equality ruling, talking about the importance of being able to live liberty and the marriage context, but here in the context of determining whether or not to have a child. We married that, no pun intended, to Justice Ginsburgs jurisprudence on abortion rights itself, which she roots not just in the due process clause, but the idea that you cannot be a full equals the sum unless you can determine whether or not you can bear a child. Host one of the issues they brought up was states rights. You may have to explain what that is and you have to think about that argument of whether this is a states rights issue. Guest the casey decision reaffirmed roe. Its said that there is this constitutional right to have an abortion, but it said that states could regulate abortion to a certain extent at different times of the pregnancy, etc. , but there cannot be an undue burden. That is the language that they an undue burden placed on the womans constitutional right to have an abortion. What we have been doing ever since man is litigating with state regulations to constitute an undue burden on a womans right to choose. The texas rule struck down yesterday were considered to be an unconstitutional undue burden. Host if you want to talk to our guest about these issues stemming from this up in court orsterday, 202 7488001 f republicans, 202 7488000 for democrats, and for independents, 202 7488002. Our guest is a supervising attorney and Teaching Fellow at Georgetown University and a lawyer for a local law firm here. She also served as the chief counsel and from the Supreme Court if i understand it. Guest yes, for the constitutional accountable the center. Host when it comes to the undue burden, make the argument that having doctors with practices at other hospitals and conditions of the centers themselves why is that unreasonable . Guest the court looks at the effects of those regulations, which would have closed down nearly all of the clinics that provide Abortion Services in texas. I think they mightve been perhaps a little less than 10 that wouldve remained open. Texas is a very large state. You wouldve had women who have had to travel hundreds of miles in order to access care. Within those clinics, there would be enormous problems of traffic. There would be over demand for that particular clinic because there would be so few of them. When you take all that into account, the burden on women who would be seeking to exercise their choice about whether or not to have an abortion is a substantial obstacle to exercising that right. This looks at the just a Supreme Court looks at the justification can while they justification. While they said it was for women, others said it was not necessary for being safe. The justices noted in their opinion that there was uncontroversial evidence that these procedures, when they are done in these connect, are very safe. They are regular procedures like colonoscopies or like a section, which are generally more dangerous, but are not subjected to these regulations. It seems that targeted regulations at shutting down Abortion Clinics, not regulations that were focused on health and safety. Host when it comes to the similar states that have these types of laws on the books, the decision reste yesterday makes t easier for states to overturn those lost or are there other hurdles that have to be jumped . It really asks a strong question on those other states laws. Maybe they can justify them and maybe they have better reasons than texas was able to put forth. Im skeptical about that, but they can certainly try. You can see states decide in light of this very strong and fair ruling from the court to try to walk back those regulations if they think they are covered by this decision, and they probably are. We might have to see litigation proceed and im sure that the clinics will fight back very strongly with this encouragement from the Supreme Court. With Justice Kennedy joining ustice breyer and kagan, about these thinly veiled attempt to regulate abortion will not be tolerated. Host we have calls lined up for you. The first one is from plano, texas. This is matt on the line for democrats. You are on with our guest. Caller thank you, pedro. Good one, elizabeth. I want to say that i am impressed by your organization. To often conservatives think they have ownership of the u. S. Constitution. Their view is that they are the only ones defending it. Im just glad to hear that there is somebody on the Progressive Side who has a different view. On wanted to quickly ask you about your organizations view on the Second Amendment. Obviously that has been in the news a lot lately. Peopleually have can have their right to bear arms and have sensible gun regulation. Want to get your take on your organizations view on the Second Amendment. Guest thank you for your kind words about the constitutional accountability center. I think its a Great Organization and i feel very blessed to work there. The constitution is a progressive document. Of our nation is literally written across our constitution through the amendments. I think your question is interesting and its something that academics have been grappling with, academics who take seriously the text. In the history of the constitution. One case that the court took up after the heller ruling was the mcdonald case out of chicago, about the 14th amendment. Briefanization filed a onh perhaps the most left the ideological spectrum along with the most right on the ideological spectrum of scholars who wrote about the clause not known very much, because it was strangled and its crew in reconstruction. That was a very progressive part of the constitution that would have protected a lot of individual rights. What is interesting is that there was discussion by the drafters of the 14th amendment that it was important for individuals to be able to defend themselves in their homes. Particularn concerned about newly freed africanamericans in the south who could not rely on the protection of mostly white, generally slave sympathetic malicious to protect them. There is this idea in the constitution, although i would not say it is the Second Amendment at all. That a 14th amendment gives the flavor of the Home Protection of selfdefense that you can have these big assault rifles out in public. That is what the constitution and text history shows through the 14th imminent. Absolutely there can be sensible regulation of that right. We thought at the time that the 14th amendment was drafted they were having these discussions. There is a wonderful book by adam winkler that goes through this. I recommend it. Adam was a client on a brief that we filed in the Supreme Court and the mcdonald case. I think we have a nuanced view of this, saying the constitution 1000 protects any gun right you want without any regulation that is wrong. Saying there is zero constitutional interest in some way of having a gun to defend in that context of the south of having southern militias who were not going to protect newly freed slaves who want to protect themselves and their family and their property, that is in the constitution as history. I think it is best if we can have a conversation, but absolutely the constitution allows for sensible gun restrictions and gun regulations. I think the Supreme Court, even friendly with Antonin Scalia on it, wouldve held regulations. Host we talked about Domestic Abusers and having their ability to own guns themselves. Guest it was the first time Justice Thomas asked a question in 10 years, so its clearly something important. Thats a very interesting conversation for Justice Thomas to engage in. He himself is very interested in the text and history of the constitution. Im always interested, even when i disagree with him, when he weighs in on these issues. Host for maryland, carl, youre up next. Caller i have a quick, and a question. My comment is that i agreed that a woman should have a right to choose. My question is does the father of that child have a right to choose whether to financially support that child from the next 1822 years or to not support the child . Guest that is a good question. I think it might be a little bit beyond my expertise in the world of abortion rights that i study when it comes to the constitution. I cannot recall a case in the Supreme Court on that. There might have been won and i just do not remember at this early hour. Host season in connecticut on the republican line, go ahead. Caller hi, my name is susan. I am a republican. I believe in prochoice. I have been pregnant three times in my life. 30, ok, lets, see if this will work. Second time, absolutely, lets keep those baby clothes recycling. The third time at age 46, we used Birth Control. This was not what my husband with my husband. I am like, are you kidding me . 46you really think that age im going to carry something to term . I cant stand the father. I dont know. I wish the republicans would understand prochoice. This is what ive spoken to my sons about. Use Birth Control and it is choice. Guest i think thats an interesting comment because we know that abortion is a fairly common procedure that is done in the United States. And a lot of women have had them for many reasons. I think what we have seen in previous Supreme Court opinions idea that even Justice Kennedy wrote that there was regret and what was seen by some to be a fairly maternal listed way. Maternal listed way idea than Justice Kennedy wrote. Its a very common procedure done for many reasons. What is interesting about the opinion that we had yesterday is that a kind of treat abortion as this medical procedure that women choose to undertake for their health or other reasons. Its a decision that they choose to take that is safe and common. I think that is a little bit of a different shift from this very almost dramatic morally fraught writing that we have seen from the court in the past. In some ways it is very justice , who is sometimes tried, but people saw and that dryness of victory, the idea that abortion is something that is a choice that many women make that is safe and common. Host talk about the role that Justice Kennedy plays now, especially with eight people on the court. Now when decisions are not deadlocked, it seems like the court takes a more liberal swing now. Do you sin see that . It certainly seems Justice Kennedy has been swinging more to the left this term. We saw this term, not just kennedy the majority in the Abortion Case, but also the affirmative action case. That was a big step for Justice Kennedy. It previously never found enough affirmative Action Program that he liked. He what he wrote uphold in university of texas is, it was a big deal. We have seen more liberal justices, very strongly, which i obviously like, and that works well with kennedy. That has been interesting is within this eight justice court, we have not in necessarily step up as much as one might think. Thought in the immigration case, chief to come will economize. Terrible case in which the court was unable to do its job because it was not fully staffed. You have millions of American Families who have to live with a cloud of uncertainty who deserved to get their case decided upon by the Supreme Court. Instead, the court was unable to decide. A ruling in place that will have nationwide consequences. Court, you wino or you lose, but you get a ruling or to have the court not be able to decide an issue of for national importance, the families affected by this, that is a disgrace. Host action was used to put that into place . Guest a good question but we do not know and that is part of the frustration. We do not know how they felt on the smaller issues. A question of whether texas should have been in court in the first place to challenge the program. Thought of us, we Justice Roberts might say that texas has snow standing. Very critical, you might recall from a few years ago, in the Climate Change case. Very critical of the ability there. Many people thought he might be critical of texas. How that broke down. And there not know are no recent analyses and no backandforth. We just do not know. Line came out,e i was there at the plaza, children were crying and concerned their parents would get deported in the middle of the night, it was heartbreaking and they deserved a ruling even if they lost, no matter how you feel. Lets hear next from natasha. Indiana, hello. Caller hello, how are you . I just wanted to say a few things. I am holding my rosary and praying i will be able to speak the words that i need to say to get my point across. The litigation is just a front for Constitutional Rights instead of defending the week and hopeless. Unborn children have feelings. Thou shalt not murder is one of the great commandments and the law of the land. There are two good points that need to be thought about as far as life is concerned. Host thank you. You. thank it is a right that our constitution has set forth, that the Supreme Court has giving women the right to choose whether or not to have an abortion. It is a serious decision for women to make this but under our constitutions grants of liberty and equal citizenship, it is a decision or women themselves in consultation with just their internal hearts or their families or their priests and their god, that is their choice and part of their liberty and part of their equal citizenship under the constitution. Back to one of the things you mentioned about states rights. , we take states rights very seriously. On issues entrenched in the constitution when it comes to fundamental rights, the state do not get to vote on those. Some rights are enshrined in our constitution that states do not get to experiment with. States cannot decide you do not get First Amendment protections. There are things that transcend states rights because we elevate them. It is true states have innovative opportunities to have iterse policies, but when comes to nationally and constitutionally enshrined fundamental rights, they cannot. Four republicans for republicans talk about the case. The justices seemed bothered by the prosecution here because it seemed so potentially rod broad. The question is whether there was an official act here. As the court said, all these es they had, for aris and the question is whether that then translated into an official act and the court said setting up a meeting with someone did not qualify as an official act. What i think is more interesting is the court has narrowed its of what political corruption is even in campaign decisions. Citizens united, the mccutcheon case, the court is looking at corruption as a narrow, a cartoon with the on it and you handed over to the elected official and they pull the lever on the vote in that moment. It is a cartoonish and simplified idea of what corruption is. That has had massive effects when it comes to campaignfinance regulation. When you look at the broader framework, the framers were concerned about when setting up lyrical branches, they wanted elected officials to be dependent upon the votes of the people, dependent upon the democratic process and the people, not to be focused on meantl interests, which Different Things in the 18th century than now, but the point is the same. That they should be dependent only upon the people and that my from dependence on big business or special interests wanting you to legislate a certain way not beneficial to york veterans, the framers wanted to make sure we kept that away. There is a broader perception of corruption in our constitution that the Supreme Court has moved away from. Host it seems like a smoking gun in order to prove it. Guest exactly. The something has to be very particular. I think that is perhaps not with the framers had in mind when they tried to put together all of these interlocking, not to nerd out on the constitution but , one are various revisions of my personal random favorites of the constitution, it does not allow you to get gifts from foreign dignitaries and it does not allow you to raise your own pay. There are all these different parts of the constitution that show that they wanted our elected leaders to be focused on serving the people and not money or special interests. Our next call, west memphis, arkansas. Go ahead. Caller i am retired. Say, is it possible that abortions, abortion laws may be unconstitutional [indiscernible] under four different , under George Herbert walker bush, when i gave arkansas, and under bill clinton, i said to we did redistribute wealth and put the money where it belongs, under cspan2. He balanced the budget at the end of 1998. Said weorge w. Bush, i have got to go to work, september 11, [indiscernible] so specifically, what are you looking from our guesses are is a question . Caller can i say this, i just wanted to ask, to knowledge, people would take advantage of say positive things to uplift people to change minds and emotions to make changes in the country, why can they violate the laws against me and say that i have got to pay medicals knowing my paperwork under obama and george w. Bush. Host thank you. E will move on sherry is from hampton, connecticut, independent line. Go ahead. Caller thank you for taking my call. I am prochoice, but rose wondering if the guest thinks there could be a compromise between prochoice and prolife should bef, abortion legal but may be limited to a certain amount of months that a woman could have an abortion, so she could make her mind up about not itr whether or should just totally be abortion on demand up until partial or partialbirth abortion . That is my question, a compromise for people on both sides pier 1 do you think . A great question to we kind of have that system already were states are able to regulate abortion much later in the term. Scale ofe a sliding regulation. Later in the term, found to have a greater interest in regulating. Compromised of that already. One thing i would like to emphasize after your great points is i think the idea of is something that should attach to prenatal care and making sure that women have the opportunities to be able to access contraception to help when theyr decide want to have a child and under what circumstances. The whole integrated system of making sure that women have access to wellpaying work, access to health care, including contraception, something the Affordable Care act made sure to put in. It is part of the Affordable Care act. I think it was actually a game changer and if you want to reduce the number of abortions, i think that is a great place to start. Vision ofs holistic what it means to be prolife, and not just focus on abortion, i think that would probably reduce the number of abortions in the first place. At its heart, the constitution protects a prochoice movement for women being able to choose through access to contraception, access to Abortion Services, and meaningful access to those services. That is what the Supreme Court decision was all about. You cannot just have a right on paper to abortion. You have to be able to exercise that right. Saw the decision yesterday and we have seen previous decisions on gay marriage. What is the is asian on social issues . I think the court is in many ways in sync with the american public. There are hotly contested views on both sides, but the numbers are actually not as divided in some ways. We have seen the majority of americans think they should be Marriage Equality. Even a lot of Republican Leaders came out and said, you know, it is something that the constitution protects, and i think of my family and i want them to be able to marry like anyone else. I think abortion is one of those issues as well. Stigma,because it is a people do not talk about it as much. If you look at the numbers of how many women have had abortions, conservatives know a woman who has had an abortion. Women themselves might understand the reasons why the earlier caller brought up reasons why you might have an abortion. I think it is not an actual core right, and again, people might disagree strongly about the end of term pregnancy, but actual support for the right i think its fairly well entrenched. You mentioned Justice Kennedy, we have seen the Supreme Court be a little more progressive than we have seen from the roberts courts. In the past, we saw a resounding affirmation of the importance of the fair housing act, which is that we do not have an entrance to segregation in the housing system. One of the gems of the civil our legacy to dr. Martin luther king, in this term, we saw Justice Kennedy affirm the right of public universities to use programs in the affirmativeaction case, and the case about voting, Justice Ginsburg wrote the unanimous result in a six justice majority on the raising reasoning, a powerful majority on democracy. We are seeing a lot of i think very inspiring progressive cases coming out of the Supreme Court. That is with Justice Kennedy and current liberals on the court. Whether that is because people are making strong arguments thatd in the constitution, is pushing them in this direction or not, that is from my perspective a great advancement. Ont of the conservatives the court, who do you see stepping up, Justice Scalia, someone who fills that role, so to speak . In oral argument, Justice Scalia was a presence. He asked a lot of questions. Especiallyto so after taking on the role and being the primary conservative , he asked extremely good, insightful, and difficult questions. Particularly the advocate on the more Progressive Side of things. He is very good at that. They translate into Strong Defense as we see in the affirmativeaction case, a great example. He read his dissent from that not extremely rare but deftly unusual practice. That was the first and last time alito had read. He cares about the issues a lot, the fieryt with eloquence of Justice Scalia, that would be hard to match, as Justice Ginsburg always said, but i think alito will step up in that role in many ways. Justice thomas will continue to be perhaps the intellectual original list on the court, which shkreli a at times was, but i think Justice Thomas is more consistent originalist. Justice thomas generally does not ask questions in oral argument. I do not think the public will view him in the same way but he will continue to carry on that intellectual, originalist view. He has written, i think we crunched the numbers and in almost half the cases, may be more, he has written an opinion. Inhas been very active putting forth his vision in these cases for the court, which is really interesting. What is the likelihood of president obamas choice becoming the head of the Supreme Court . How do you see that playing out . Byst i have been dismayed the Senate Republicans absolute refusal to do their job and give up on governance in this case. The constitution gives the president the authority when i face vacancy arises, put forth a nominee or he has fulfilled that duty. Republicans themselves praised him as a fantastic Supreme Court until he was actually the Supreme Court take, and now they are refusing to give him a hearing. In theave seen like immigration case, the court needs the full kopelman of nine justices. Full complement of nine justices. I hope they will get it together have atheir jobs and confirmation vote on Merrick Garland p or he is unquestionably qualified. Someone told me when they were reviewing his integrity that he is nearly a perfect human being. They actually said that. Senators. , republican give him an up or down vote. Host Elizabeth Wydra taking your calls. Keith from north dakota, thank you for waiting on the democrats line. Has she ever seen abortion done . I have seen it done on tv and they go after a live tv with. Our sets and the kid was trying to get away from the forceps. They squished it and it popped like a balloon. It is murder. Im totally against it. There is something wrong with women who want to have abortions. You know, i am not a doctor so i will not refute point by point what you just said, but particularly, i would urge you to look into more of the facts on this. That not we do not all want to watch on television, but especially at the early stages of pregnancy, you can take a pill. It is nonsurgical. Your facts are wrong and im courage you too i encourage you to look at the center for reproductive rights, and read perspective,heir what is involved. I think perhaps most importantly, this is a choice that the constitution protects for a woman to make. It may be a difficult choice and it might not before her. But it is her choice that she makes with her family and with herself, with her doctor, with her faith, and that is the choice for her to live with. I think that is what the constitution protects you that is what the Supreme Court says it protects. Line, atlanta,nt georgia, chris, good morning. Caller good morning. Believe ine to say i light of the courtss decision that the state of texas will be unregulated. I am against abortion myself, but i will tell you what happened in my family. Youngest daughter was a senior in high school who got pregnant. The doctors told her that she needed to have an abortion and y strongly recommended hit strongly recommended it. The doctor tried to tell her she really needs to have an abortion because the child would be severely challenged mentally and physically. My daughter chose not to do it and she chose to have the baby be the baby turned out to the smartest, brightest, healthiest child you ever want to see. Something for young women to think about. Thank you. Thank you. Im glad to hear that was the outcome. The point is it is a choice and that was her choice and i am delighted that it had an out a happy outcome. I think one of the main parts of the opinion from the Supreme Court was about whether the regulations would in fact make these clinics safer. The court carefully went through evidence to show that they were not necessary, the courts said they were not necessary to make these procedures safer, which are already very safe. Importantat is an point. We want to obviously make sure these procedures are done in a safe environment and people know what they are doing. But that is already under current in the regulation. Top, these did nothing to protect the health of women. They were aimed at shutting down Abortion Clinics. This was described as a significant Abortion Case. Other ones expected for the Supreme Court specifically regarding abortion . I think this is the most significant Abortion Case in decades. What it makes clear is the right meethas been protected has meaning on the ground. Right torcise the choose to have an abortion. This was absolutely a huge victory for women. This one will set a marker for other cases to say the court will take seriously any effort to take the end run around the constitutional right to an abortion. Host wyoming, republican line, good morning. Believeyes, i dont that we are such a dumb country that we even have to have abortions anymore. Believe we have any thought as to what is going on. I thank you. Alan from brooklyn, new york, democrats line. Caller good morning. Thank you for im calling about the bob mcdonald bribery case. This is troubling to me at several levels. We used to have Public Officials that if you cannot prove intent to link a gift with an action because you cannot get inside someones head, the response is not to liberalize the standard but continue to make maintain the standard based on the appearance of possible wrongdoing. Accessans limiting the in the first place, which is easy to prove. It almost seems the court has righthis liberalization of the Public Officials to take money without being accused of bribery to protect the rationale for their wrongheaded Citizens United decision years ago where they opened the floodgates in the first space first place. They are increasing the possibility for gifts to start a bribery situation and making it harder for people to protect themselves against that notonesty by saying we will allow a bribery case to be brought unless there is a clear linkage of a quid pro quo. Like very unfair to people formally Assembly Speaker of new york who had a very joy and convention brought against him for bribery, where i believe the quid pro quo proof was at least as weak as it was, and he is now serving 12 years in prison for something the court would probably say should have been thrown out. If we both limit the access to and go more on appearance rather than the standard, we could maintain an act of bribery in the system where the penalty is not quite as severe. We do not have people get it off scott free on the one hand and being thrown into prison for long terms. On the other hand, it should be an easier ability to prove it and less severe penalties so they do not have this institute inconsistent going on. That is a great point and i am sympathetic in many ways to what you just said. One thing that gives me pause as we are talking about criminal conviction with potential jail time. Standard andad part of itthe intent because we are talking about a conviction, that causes some people to take a pause. Over criminalization is a problem. I probably would not start in my priority of officials when i am dealing with over criminalization. Nonetheless, i think it is important when someone is suffering criminal conviction, that there are clear standards by which they are convicted. The understanding of official case couldned in the have been overly rod, conduct not covered by the statute. To court sent the case back the court saying given our clarification of the more narrow statute that deals with official acts, the courts can decide whether the evidence is sufficient to go forward with a new prosecution under the clarified standard. I have not heard that they have the any decisions or prosecutors have made any decisions about that yet whether to ask the court of appeals to try to continue to see whether or not they could reap prosecute him under the clarified statute. One thing that is interesting about your question is the beginning and the end of the political corruption process, the Campaign Regulation focused more at the giftgiving, at the pushing of the official, the influencing. That is where the narrow definition of corruption has been extremely problematic. Aboute are talking terminal i think some sort of criminal act on behalf of that gets it shows, difficult. But if we just staff at the this improper dependence on big money, on outside influence, that would go a long way toward getting our government focused on people and not just the people with the host independent line most money. Host independent line. Caller i would like to challenge her position that there is a big celebration going on because the constitution says a woman has the right to kill her baby. Planned parenthood, the babies parts, but nowhere in the is abortion referred to. It is one man, in this case Anthony Kennedy, saying, with the standard democrat majority, woman has the right to choose and that is one man. They overturned a lower appeals Court Decision where judges said that the clinics in texas need to be safer and this was ok for clinics to be safe. Nothing about constitution. Your continuing comments saying the constitution says or the you are just on a track that has no basis. This is one person, Anthony Kennedy, siding with liberal members of the Supreme Court, to safety texas law of should be overturned. Dont keep harping that the constitution says, because that is not. That is one person. That is why the election that is coming up for president is so important because we will get more liberal activist judges to make laws rather than interpret. So many Supreme Court justices have said there is a constitutional right. Since the 1970s. It is not just one justice. Even yesterday, it was not just one man saying that. It is absolutely about the cuff the tuition. As it says in the opinion itself on the court, texas regulations onstitute an undue burden the womens constitutional right to do so. Explicitly a constitutional ruling is what this case was all about, decided under the 14th amendment. So the constitution has everything to do with whether or not a woman has equal determinep rights to how to live her life including whether or not to bear a child. Host what do we expect in the next session of court . In strange times. Eight justices. The court has granted cases looking forward to the next term knowing it might have a justices for the next term as well. If a public and senators make good on the blockade of the election, lets say the new president puts for the nominee even on his or her first day, they probably would back exit get confirmed that the april. That is two terms that would be affected by the blockade of the Supreme Court nominee for the current vacancy. We have seen a slowdown in the theer they have granted for next year. There might be in inclination to not want to take up hot button issues for next term because they only will be working with a justices. But there might be voting cases that have to be heard. A lot of cases are working their court that the lower deal with voter id and other regulations put in place after the Supreme Court gutted voting rights. Those are important cases working their way up. We do not know because the court is working with the nine justices. Host Elizabeth Wydra. Thank you for your time. Continue on in our discussions with the sprint about the spring court and related matters with henry olsen. We will have a discussion when we return. I pleased the senate as a body has come to this conclusion. Television in the senate will undoubtably provide citizens with greater access and exposure to the actions of this body. This access will help all americans to be better informed of the problems in the issues with which faiths this nation. Mr. Obama during the election, i had the building to meet a woman who supported me in my campaign. She decided to come and check my hand and take a photograph. A wonderful woman. She was not asking for anything. She took the time to come by. It was an exceptional except for the faction was born in 1894. Her name was marjorie lewis, an africanamerican woman born in born in the shadow of slavery, born at a time when lynchings were commonplace, born at a time when africanamericans and women could not vote. Took our country from the time of its founding until the mid1980s to both of a national the size850 billion, of the stimulus package when it came over here. Were talking about real, borrowed money. 30 years of coverage of the seas and of the u. S. Senate on cspan2. Washington journal continues. Host our next guest is henry , author and also serves as the senior fellow for the ethics and Public Policy center. Good morning. A bit about the Public Policy center you work for, can you describe what it is and what you do . Guest we study Public Policy for a judeochristian perspective and try to bring judeochristian ethics into Public Policy. Centerright rather than the hard right. Host what kinds of things do you look at, personally . What is your field of study . Guest personally mine is elections. And we look at what is going on with Public Opinion and try to figure out how conservatives can react consistent with conservative principles to build to build a majority. Host because of the decisions that were made yesterday, do those become election issues in your mind . Guest yes it a lot of people are concerned about texas Abortion Case. Obviously people on both sides have strong opinions about it and it will continue to be what it has been for the last years or mobilize on a partisan basis and a swing issue for people in the middle. Of justicesmination to the Supreme Court, how does that plant to that fact especially in the Campaign Cycle . Is a factor pushing people on the right to support donald trump people who are uncomfortable with donald trump are very concerned about the future of the court. In the last couple of weeks, we have seen a number of four for orisions 44 decisions 53 decisions that the way conservative actions would like. People who care about that more likely to gravitate behind donald trump rather than support a candidate. Host how do you think donald thep is doing, that he is kind of person conservatives can support . Guest i think he started well coming out with a short list with a lot of strong conservative names. A good selling point. He has done well with evangelical leaders. But yesterday he was criticized for not immediately coming out and issuing a comment, which led people to fear that maybe this guy is not with us given his life im lifelong lack of advocacy on the issue. Host an Advisory Council had reached out to church leaders, is that enough in your mind . He needs to continue to assure people. It is not somebody can just walk away from it particularly in light of yesterdays rolling. Socially conservative leaders are going to want real assurance that this is something that is not just a talking point but that matters for him. He will have to continue to provide it. A stronger statement would have gone a long way in your mind. Guest that would have gone a long way to reassuring socially conservative and prolife recent that his statements on their behalf were sincere and heart out. Organization you represent taken a stand on donald trump . Cant no, we dont and take stands. Everyone individually does. As an analyst, i will chronicle his rise or fall no matter what happens but personally, i will not be supporting him. I do not think he has the character for the white house. Host in terms of . Guest i think you need to have a political temperament, i think you need to have a temperament capable of leading in a political factor fashion. Not a business fashion. You have more of a freedom of when you are the leader of a political mother and he has not yet in my mind gender demonstrated the ability to lead in a political way. Presidency ofe the United States is no different than the presidency of the trump organization. That is not the way liberal democracies operate. Host our guest is with us until 9 15 or so. Want to ask questions, you can do so. Host if you want to post something on twitter, you can do so. Also on our facebook page, you can post comments. Recently, donald trump held a meeting with evangelical and christian leaders. The point ofhink all that is as far as mr. Trump is concerned at how much mind changing do you think he is doing for people especially on offense . Guest he is ringing on the he is bringing people on board. Hewould be better for him if was more consistent in ratifying those messages rather than going off message sometimes and being the old trump. But the evangelical community is very important to the Republican Party and he needs to get over 90 of republicans in his corner to have a chance of when the election. He is getting close and actions like evangelical leaders talking tout things that matter socially conservative and conservative republicans are the sorts of things he needs to do to get closer to that 90 . Host as far as him getting the number, how does he compare to mitt romney . Are those numbers consistent or is he getting christian voters to support him . Guest it is hard to say. Threes pretty clear is weeks ago, he started to run behind romney among Republican Voters and the last couple of polls have shown he is rising backup among republicans and not among independents. It is getting close to or comparable to figures where romney was at this stage in the campaign. How does he get people on board . Guest i think he has a challenge in front of him and his chance of becoming president is to become the agent of change for people who really want the change that in order to secure the presidency, he needs to convince a certain number of people that he can be trusted. He needs to be an agent of change, but a trustworthy one, not someone considered to be reckless. A tight road for him to walk. When he moves into his more rhetorically florid statements, he can ratify ratify with his faith, people want somebody who they considered to be trustworthy and sound. He has to do both to win. Statements like the ones we saw in the lando shooting recently . The orlando shooting recently . Guest yes. The change to bring is for forle who trust him to do all americans as close to being divisive and angry. He needs to show he can be a copy to executive and not simply a competent Business Executive p or political executives do not do the sorts of things at after orlando. Host for republicans hear first up from cedric in south carolina. You are on with our guest, henry olsen. [indiscernible] they are throwing stuff buffett stuff up against the wall [indiscernible] caller, i am sorry to you are breaking up. Talking about the texas decision, i think. Guest i could not get where he was going with it because of the breakup. Host as far as donald trump is about thisyou heard effort of republican delegates notention later this year being bound to donald trump, what do you think of the effort . Guest it is likely to lose because in order to do that, you thed have to change interpretation of Republican Party rules and basically tell the voters at home that their vote did not count. They thought they were actually selecting the president ial nominee, but they were not. I do not think the majority of republican delegates are willing to take that political heat. It may show up in other ways and you might see more resistance to this because they are unbound on the Vice President ial nomination. Except or rejected. You might see more opposition or an alternative candidate emerge on the floor, but i do not think it will succeed with donald. Of the cofounders, making her case as far as why the effort is worthwhile. Listen to what they have to say and get your take on it. 60 of republicans who cast not cast themdid for mr. Trump. He does not have a majority of of those who cast their votes in these primaries and caucuses. Process ofhin the the Republican Party or nothing illegal or shady or behind close doors. This is very much out in the open. The reason you did not see this happen after the romney cam the candidacy nomination and weer the mccain nomination, are not just people who said we are disappointed. Go and try and disrupt things just because we are disappointed hear it for most of the people involved in this movement, this is very and goes to what we see is the core nature of the candidate. We do not believe that mr. Trump first of all and bodies Republican Party principles, being a Democrat Part of his life and having donated heavily to democrat candidates over the years, and a lot of other things on policy and temperament and so forth. We do not see him as being the right person for the republican candidate and we do not feel that even if he were nominated, that he would win. 60 did not vote for trump and it does not mean there was a majority that would have supported him in the lower rates. Most of those were cast when they were in some cases in the early races 17 running. To oneonone, trump won a majority in virtually every state that had majorities, including conservative indiana and liberal new york. Idea that there is a majority of antitrump, there may have been a majority of nontrump, but that does not mean there is a majority of antitrump. To have a majority of delegates, many of whom are not trump loyalists, try to overflow the returns of what the voters say would cause political havoc. The nominee they would put in trumps place said he does not embody Republican Party principles. Is that something you agree or disagree with . Agree,whether or not i it is the voters themselves who choose what Republican Party principles are and the voters in the primaries and the Republican Party have chosen doll chomp by overwhelming margins and when it came down to a choice between somebody who i am sure she would argue does embody republican donaldles, ted cruz, trump one massive majorities in conservative indiana, modern moderate pennsylvania, and liberal new york. It is clear someone who is a republican who seek who she says is not, the Republican Party voters preferred donald trump and i think convention would be wise to listen to that. Guest host carol, pennsylvania, republican line. Carol, north carolina, republican line. Caller just does not get it. It does not matter whether it is republican or democrat. It is still with the people want you to do. This government dont belong to a republican or a democrat. This government belongs to the people. Going for donald trump and Bernie Sanders because they are saying, you are going against what we want, so we are just going to go it does not matter what the sensible is. You are not listening to the people. The president is saying one thing before the people in the Different Countries who make day hecision, the next says Something Else spirit i am 72 years old and i have watched through the years, Hillary Clinton and the clintons lie, lie, lie. I have watched the bushs lie, lie, lie. Are sayingn people it is not a republican or a democrat thing, but the fact you are not honest with the American People and you do not care what the American People want. Host thank you. Of the majors one appeals behind donald trump, the fact that a republican activist would say he does not represent republican frank principles is a Huge Positive in the sense that not he is nonrepublican but he is not someone who walks clear set of ideology and says i will be bound by this. He is somebody who speaks more andnly and more informally someone who conveys to the American People i am on your side and will get things done for you. I think what she says is exactly what has animated Trump Supporters and why they are so passionate. Caller i, too, am a person not for abortion, but i can see the westitution and how it says have we all have our equal choice in that. Do poorame time, why people and others make christian thele have guilt if we are ones who have to be part of paying for these abortions and that, why cant they just leave abortions, then and pay forwn it your own self, do not make christians feel guilty and have to pay for something they want no part of. I think that very adequately and emotionally sets out the way a lot of questions feel, that it is not simply a question of a womans right but a question of forcing people to act directly or indirectly against their very deeply held religious belief. That is why you continue to see prolife and socially conservative oriented politics. It is not just that they are not winning, but the idea that they are being forced into a position where they have to live against their faith. I think progressives would be well served to listen to statements like that and the people like that and take it to heart. Decisionause of the yesterday on abortion and previous decisions on gay marriage, our social issues diminishing . I think it is changing and will over time. It will change a little over time because younger people are everyocially liberal and few years, they are greater numbers that tilt toward social liberalism or social moderation, something that gains stronger. It is also a number of christian who have activists, relies they are probably not turn back the clock with expect with respect to the advance of it. If nots a strong popular majority, then a strong close to majority that is very supportive and are willing to push back aggressive court action in ways that would probably not meet their muster if done on behalf of conservative causes. Going to go away, particularly abortion, but i think you will find over the next few years, socially conservative and politically active people trying to think about different ways to fight those battles. So many times, they locked up the hill. I think you will find them more focused on abortion per one issue where it remains relatively strong. Cases holdssome high and prochoice. T is unlike any other samesex marriage has turned 25 points in favor of roe samesex marriage over the last 20 years. You will talk more about family issues as opposed to questions of sexual morality. Questions of how we defend the Nuclear Family and how do we make child raising and child rearing easier, ways to talk about social issues that are less focused on sex. Host bill is up next, independent line. Go ahead. Ou are on with henry olsen caller my basic mistrust [indiscernible] cycle, weery voting her problems with registration of people voting, missing ballots, the whole gamut. About recording all this stuff in a big black box. I do not trust it. A realm of possibility there for these guys to manipulate these things. What would help regain that trust . I would be happy with a ballot box that you look at and you keep it forever. Guest we have problems with the voting process. We vote on so many things. The rest of the world does use paper ballots. We go a long way to professionalizing our Voting System by requiring more , but i agree that i do not think the idea of going with a paper audit trail is safe, and a lot of people have been trying to reverse that trend for pure electronic voting without it he would trail for some time and i think they are having success. Our guest previously served as the Vice President director of the national at theh initiative American Enterprise institute and also worked at the manhattan institute. We cannot go through it all, but what is the just of your book . You have four factions fighting over the same issues for 40 years and you have people who said the Republican Party should be the vehicle for the conservative movement and they divided socially conservative and fiscally conservative. People said no, we should be the preconservative Republican Party. And all the elections, nominations were decided by the people in between, the biggest group, who said they were somewhat conservative. Donald trump appended that by bringing millions into the party but the basic thrust still stands. The reason donald trump is the statee is because in after state, he won the somewhat conservative vote overwhelmingly. , twoery conservatives factions on the right, where the majority of the Republican Party, then people would have picked ted cruz as the nominee. Conservatives, people not bound by ideological conservatives, people who might like john boehner over ted cruz, overwhelmingly chose donald trump in state after state and that is why he is the nominee. Somewhat conservative is the heart of the Republican Party and republicans need to understand that if they want to figure out how to turn the party around. Host columbia, maryland, democrats line. On as ai know you are very conservative representative of the Republican Party. What is your thought behind Donald Trumps multiple marriages versus Hillary Clinton for giving her husband for his ustry actions indiscretions and staying with him and preserving the family unit . How can you justify supporting donald trump with his immorality while mrs. Clinton, who made the difficult choice of staying with her husband even after being publicly humiliated by his indiscretions . Iest as i mentioned earlier personally am not supporting donald trump so that is not an issue for me. There are other republicans that will need to consider that. He would be interesting to see how mrs. Clinton handles that. Particularly since mr. Trump has president sformer behavior into the race by saying she is an enabler of him. It will be very interesting to see whether or not that comes up on the campaign trail for the debate and if she is able to turn that to her advantage precisely by saying some of the things you talked about and trying to gain a sympathetic ear by saying i made the tough decisions and i kept my family together. Host on the democrat line in california. You are next. Caller yes. I have a question. How do you compare the Second Amendment right to bear arms and the right for a woman to choose what she wants to do with her body . The i dontof know whether its the constitution or not. If the law. Its the law. Prolife, i may be prolife or whatever, but its my choice. How do you say i cant do what i want to do with my body and you can say you have the right to bear arms . Thats my question. Guest as a constitutional matter the right to bear arms is written in the constitution. The right to choose to have an abortion is not a clear constitutional right. It is something that was pronounced by the Supreme Court in roe versus wade as an interpretation of a more broadly stated right in the constitution. Personally i believe that a woman should be able to do what she wants with her own body. The issue is at some point during the pregnancy there is a second body. There is a human being with a separate dna strand. With all the markers of personhood. And that happens to live within a womans body. The debate ought to be about when and where that takes place with certainty so we can say the separate person within the woman has separate right and its within that reason that i am prolife. I believe at some point within the pregnancy that separate person has enough right to life that they ought to be protected. Oursh and hope that more of abortion discussion could focus on the fact that there are two people within one physical form until the woman gives birth and the baby is outside of her body rather than trying to pretend that it is simply one person. Host West Virginia. We will hear from jeff on the independent line. Go ahead. Caller good morning, gentlemen. First i would like to say that the lady from maryland was spot on there. Our politics have become too much like a sporting event where is my team versus your team. Vote these people in. They get in and it all changes. The then they become lobbyists takeover. Progun, antiabortion, big oil, pharmaceutical companies. Its not until we get rid of all that lobbyist stuff that we can truly have a government that represents the people and not outside interests pushing these politicians for their own specific agenda. I would like to have your opinion on that. Thank you. Freedom of speech as something that is guaranteed in the constitution. Lobbying is a form of freedom of speech. Its a different type of speech. Its people were coming to washington to present their ideas. One can argue that its protected under the First Amendment under the freedom to redress grievances. Everyone who has been in washington knows there are people who cross the line on both sides whether its the representative or the lobbyists. But most loving is above board onhere are lobbyists on both issues equal sides on both issues. I think the real issue is my team versus their team. Hardenedthat we have into a red team which always opposes the blue team. Almost more like a sporting than public business being done and thats part of the reason you have the trump candidacy. Saying, thats the way it is supposed to be. I think it is showing that people can control their government and they can move their elected representatives in a direction that will be more conducive. Its going to take a lot of effort and probably more elections where the establishment sees the anger and faces the consequences before those have set in. Host there is a story over the last couple of days about the columnist george will saying hes leaving the Republican Party altogether because of trump. What do you think about that action . Guest mr. Will is an extremely thoughtful and principled man and i respect his action deeply. Given his position its the logical thing for him to do. It does not mean he has abandoned his ideals. It does not mean he little longer feels identification no longer feels identification formally with the Republican Party. There are people doing that every day. Host part of the reason he said it is because of paul ryans support of donald trump even after the Trump University case. Guest anybody who is in Public Office is in a very difficult position. They are accountable to primary voters. In mr. Ryans district, donald trump lost overwhelmingly to mr. Cruz. Most politicians dont have that. Certainly the people in mr. Ryans caucus overwhelmingly represent areas where in some cases up to 75 of the voters supported mr. Trump. Unless and until there is a movement to start an entirely new party, those people are going to be electorally conflicted and its understandable that they would choose discretion as the better part of valor and mr. Ryan has clearly decided it is better to lead a caucus that has those issues than to separate himself. Aboutwhat do you think the libertarian candidate, gary johnson . Is he going to spoil it for somebody . Guest he and jill stein both. One of the things that is quite clear is theres a very large segment of americans who would prefer neither of these candidates. If each of these candidates were running without the other they would be the most unpopular candidate ever to be nominated by a major party. Every time that uphold asks the question a poll asks a question that includes gary johnson and jill stein, those votes go between 10 and 20 before either of those people have received any publicity. It could be that the protest vote decides the election because which candidates nominal supporters are most obstinate in refusing to vote for them. Tim is next in wisconsin on the independent line. Go ahead. Caller yes. How are you doing today, pedro . I dont know where to start really. If you read the constitution and the bill of rights, and you see how the pilgrims came over to get freedom for religion, you look at now whats happening with this country especially in the last 100 years or so with the Progressive Movement, and i would just encourage anyone to read any books about the Progressive Movement. And how in the Country First byck people werent humans the Supreme Court so obviously the Supreme Court is not a perfect entity. They have made the mistakes before big mistakes before. Human back in world war ii. Now young babies in the womb arent human. If you look back through the Progressive Movement that is recently who has been responsible and who has advanced these, i would say outside the constitution principles. And today or yesterday you had Hillary Clinton, i mean this wasnt even really about abortion. Just, youe, you had, know, these women come in and get the same type of medical care anyone else would get for an app and deck me or something appendectomy or something. These five justices somehow made up another, saw another right in the constitution that didnt exist for people to this is just becoming a real horse. Farce. E guest i think it is clear the intellectuals today have a very different view of constitutional power and judicial power and legislative power than conservatives and probably than many of the founders did. They definitely believe in a much stronger national government. A much more expensive view of what a right expansive view of what a right is. Particularly when it comes to matters of sex and personal behavior. Ultimately that is a political choice. These beliefs have been ratified through numerous elections of people who espouse them to the presidency, congress, and the senate. If people want to have a constitution that is more restrictive, more in line of what we had in the 19th century of federal power and its relationship between the constitution and personal behavior and sexual behavior, they need to show that by coming up and electing people at the ballot box support those views. The Progressive Movement did not happen in a vacuum. In a political context where many people over many decades have supported that. Even at times it has been a minority supported by a court. Ben then is up next is up next on the independent line. Good morning. Caller how are you doing, cesir . The problem is people are not making decisions when it comes to shaping their anymore. Shaping their Foreign Policy anymore. With a corrupt system you are going to have a bad outcome. Nowthe United States right in participating in so much corruption and ungodliness, people really dont have common sense. We need wisemen in this day and time to make decisions for the people. Wise men thats connected with the understanding of god as far as the instruction of god and how we as a people can become less. Blessed. This country is really headed toward doom and destruction and thats just a fact. People stand up to these people that corrupt. This political system is corrupt and its only going to get worse you know, with the abortion. You know, its just common sense. When the seed is planted, life starts. With the murder of children, with the homosexuality, its not a natural lifestyle. Common sense tells you its not a natural lifestyle. Its an abomination. I dont know where peoples minds are. People are actually insane on this planet and its going to lead to a destructive result. Thats the bottom line. Has expressed what Many Americans feel. Many americans feel the opposite. Thats why you have the deep and emotional debates we have over westerns like samesex marriage questions like samesex marriage and abortion. People have deeply held views of morality and how that intersects with personal liberty and the american promise and thats why social issues are perhaps our most divisive and emotional in the political sphere. Come fromuse you have a place with ethics in its title, i want to get your thoughts on yesterdays Supreme Court decision on governor mcdonnells decision. What does it mean for corruption in the political world . Guest on the one hand i can understand why it was a unanimous decision. One of the few unanimous decisions we have on very nontechnical cases. The question was the definition of an act. And is setting up meetings and act. That if iteld was was an accident virtually anything that a public official did other than listen to somebody could be considered corruption if they received any sort of benefit including a campaign contribution. I think thats likely correct. On the other hand i would hope there would be some rule of reason. That a meeting arranged by somebody for a constituent is different than a meeting arranged by somebody who has power over the person who nominally makes the decision but they know that if they make the wrong decision that there will become to quit is for them consequences for them. Betweeneople delineate the formality of the act and the reality of the act. So you wont have people who can basically act in a corrupt manner and hide behind a phony fiction that somebody else has formal Decisionmaking Authority anybody who knows the way things work that that was not an independent decision. Chris from new york. Ost republican line. You are on the henry olsen. Go ahead. Caller i have two comments. One on trump and the other one on his position on the middle east and our allies. I just want to say that i am excited that trump is running. Because it gives not only me but most americans fade that this th that thisai country may be great again. He is the kind of person who draws massive crowds because people are really sick and tired of this country being run by corrupt politicians. I think he will make this country great again. Person thatnd of has massive potential. We wont continue down this path of destruction. He will stop it. I just want to say that he said about the issue of security, i believe that looking at the orlando shooting that happened to be the worst gun assault in our country, he was right. And donald trump is still right. All of the fanatics come from a country in mideast called saudi arabia with their out ecology and their hate ideology and their hate. That aggression in the u. S. This terrorism which has made our country a lot less secure these days basically has its origins from saudi arabia. Because they apparently preach a manmade strain of islam which clusionistped by extrusion and ultra radical guest certainly chris speaks for millions of americans. There are millions of americans who believe in Donald Trumps ability to make America Great again. Whats notable to me is when you look at Donald Trumps rise, its when he issues the idea of a ban on muslim immigration that he jumps from 25 support in the National Polls to 35 . Thats according to the exit polls. Support for that, which he is now beginning to back away from the exit poll suggests that issue more than any other is why he went from being a contender to a champion. Islam,spect to wahhabi that is definitely a stricter more puritanical variant of his long. Islam. Its also very difficult to cast with a broad brush and say that saudi activity is the reason we have people go off the deep end and suddenly become domestic terrorists. Host donald trump speaks that 2 30 this afternoon from pennsylvania. You can see that live on see cspan. The last call is from jerry from texas on the republican line. Calling to respond to the lady from california comparing the Second Amendment and a womans right to abortion. I have a 2015 almanac that lists the deaths about one third of them are homicides. Posted two thirds are suicide close to two thirds are suicides. Choice. He a womans abortion right, they have a choice. They can choose not to have protected sex and get pregnant and with that right also goes the right to get an std. Hiv. They have the right to do with thei what they want to their body. Unprotected sex both i think people on sides of the abortion question want to protect a womans health. I think the question of choice is central to this debate. Question as to what and where the rights of choice impact another person. That ayou believe fertilized ovum in the womb is a belief is atrsonal some point it does become a person with the right to life, then that leaves you in one direction. And if you dont, you dont. That is where the argument constitutionally thought to be taking place. Host henry olsen of the ethics in Public Policy center. He is also the author of the four faces of the Republican Party. The remainder of our program will be open phones today. Republicans, 202 7488001. Democrats, 202 7488000. Independents, 202 7488002. Yesterday the democratic senator from West Virginia was on the floor talking about the flooding that his state is experiencing and appealing to his fellow members of congress about that flooding. Here is a portion of that statement from yesterday. So weve got three counties with a declaration. Greenbrier was really hit hard. That is where the resort is. Those three counties are getting immediate relief. 700ave over 500 going to National Guardsmen coming in. I flew over the area. I visit all the areas on flight friday. I have never seen an entire city inundated in water. The entire town. There was not a dry spot in the town. Everybody got caught. Somebody says about the warning. We did give warning. If you have lived all your life in your parents and grandparents before you never have you heard stories about water coming this fast and this quick. Let me give you one example and you can imagine. I went to white Sulfur Springs yesterday. The pictures on television, the house that was floating on fire. I was there when it happened. Before i got to that house i was walking and there was a lady standing. There was foundations of a few homes, but no sign of a home anywhere. She had flowers and a cross. Thats where her husband who was the grandfather and her. Her husband, her daughter, and two grandchildren were in the house. They got to the attic and the house left. One of the kids was saved. But one little child, the mother and the daughter and the grandfather were lost in the flood. And she is standing there looking at what do you say . Theres no words to replace that. Washington journal continues. Host we are in open phones on this june 28. If you want to give us a call between now and 10 00, 202 7488001 for republicans. 202 7488000 for democrats. 202 7488002 for independents. The House Select Committee on benghazi is taking a look at the events that took waste during that time. A report is now at. Out. We will review some bullet points from the report. Amongllowing facts are the many new revelations in the report including some of the reporting that took place shortly after saying five of the 10 action items from the 7 30 p. M. White house meeting reference the video but no direct link or solid evidence exists connecting the attack in benghazi and the video at the time of the meeting to place took place. Senior officials had access to eyewitness accounts of the attack in realtime. The Diplomatic Security command center was in direct contact with agents on the floor in benghazi and send multiple of dates about the event including a terror notification. The deputy spokesperson sent an email right after the attack stating both the president and secretary clinton released statements this morning. To any of those for the time being and make sure we are all in sync on messaging. Also says that minutes before the president delivered the speech in the rose garden, Jake Sullivan wrote in his email, there was not really much of violence in egypt that we are seeing the violence in libya erupted over inflammatory videos. If you go to the benghazi website, the select committee, the report there. A press conference is set to take place at 10 00 so that you can hear the statements from House Republicans on this report. You can talk about that and other issues in this open phone. 202 7488000 for democrats. 202 7488001 for republicans. 202 7488002 for independents. Go ahead. Really appreciate the fact that you are a very unbiased media outlet. Resultso talk about the of the Supreme Court decisions. I think its very interesting that so many people are talking about our freedoms to control our bodies, to decide who we have sex with, and yet there are still so many people who say this should be limited and we are going to curtail these folks freedoms. And these freedoms are unacceptable. I love the fact that youre able to sit here and listen to aoples opinions and get unbiased view of how america thinks. No matter how articulate or inarticulate it may come across. I just want to say i really appreciate that. Host lennox in maryland. Lets go now to eddie in tampa, florida on the line for democrats. Caller good morning, pedro. Pleasure. If anyone on the democratic side would make some of the statements that donald trump makes such as, he knows more than the generals. Are you kidding me . Hes in scotland and he is talking about the bricks are walking out of the eu brits are walking out of the eu but hes in scotland. Hes a complete idiot. Anyway, have a great day, pedro. Host the front page of usa today and others talks about the Prime Minister David Cameron ruling out the idea of a revote on whats known as brexit. He ruled out a second referendum. Heightenedety is over the implications of the vote to split from the european union. World markets shuttered in the second day of negative reactions to thursdays vote. The u. K. Was stripped of its perfect triplea credit. Tom in california on the republican line. Go ahead. My comment would be this president if people dont people are voting for trump because they want change. But then youve got the republicans who dont want change because they want to keep it like it is. Ok . Theres no word about the womens rights to abortion and what not to do why are they closing the help for the women . Whats that going to do . Put them in the closet back where it was. Why dont they worry about the cigarettes that their smoking and giving kids cancer . And thats ok. Peopley cigarettes give cancer every year and the government has no this for years and years has known this for years and years and they dont stop that. Host where you stand on donald trump . Caller i think hes good. I think we need some change. I think we need some noncorrupt people in there. Hillary clinton its absurd. The constitution is nothing. They give jobs to people that ruin families for a living . Right the constitutional they have the right to sign my name in court, change Court Documents and nothing can be done . Theres no accountability. Youve got to get a lawyer. Chargeyers are trying to 150,000 to get people to stop crimes out here. I went to my senator in washington. I spent six months bringing him documentation after documentation, working with his aide, she thought i was crazy at first. I asked for her findings on what happened. The senator deleted and thruway ew awayle case through a w the whole case. Host shone from montana on the republican line. Sean from montana on the republican line. Caller good morning to you. I think its a whole different situation where as a country people are somehow misled to think that we are going to get here. Ing in the mental thats not going to be the way its going to be. People are going to vote this election cycle. Peoplelly amazed at how called donald trump a lot of names and things like that. I would like to sit down and ask this person how much they have read about history. Anybody who says this is the most debated election in history doesnt know history at all. Most debatedhe election in history. One side of the country against another. And if i could say one last thing. That would be i wish that america would go back to the day after 9 11 when we all considered ourselves americans. Have a good day and thank you for taking my call. Clinton appeared with senator Elizabeth Warren cincinnati, ohio. Enar they discussed senator trump. Here is what she had to say. When donald trump says he will make America Great, he means he will make it even greater for rich guys just like trump. Great for the guys who dont care how much they have already squeezed from everyone else. Great for the guys who always want more. Because thats who donald trump is. The guy who wants it all for himself. And watch out. Because he will crush you into the dirt to get whatever he wants. Thats who he is. [applause] just look at the evidence. Donald trump cheered on britains current crisis, which has sucked billions of dollars out of your retirement account because he said, hey, it might bring more rich people to his new golf course. Featured on the 2008 housing crash so he could scoop up more real estate on the cheap. And he cheered on students desperate enough to sign up for his Fake University so he could bleed them dry and turn a profit for himself. [booing] what kind of a man does that . What kind of man roots for people to lose their jobs, homes, life savings . I will tell you what kind of a man. A small insecure money grabber who fights for no one but himself. [applause] host you can watch that whole event on our website at cspan. Org. Dont forget at 2 30 this afternoon donald trump will be speaking at pennsylvania. Lets hear from pat from new jersey on the republican line. Caller hey pedro. Talk about what happened last thursday. I felt that even though the city and continued, washington journal should have gone on on schedule. It should not have been preempted. I felt you could have moved that house sideshow over to one of your other stations. I would like to finish by saying thank you very much for broadcasting the brexit returns that night. I found they were very informative and thanks for cspan. Host by the way, part of our Mission Statement involves the showing of these forums even if it is not within a gaveled sessions. Part of the mission we have is to show these forums take ways. But thank you for your comment. In virginiamarion on the democrat line. Hello. Caller hello. Thank you for taking my call. I would like to talk about the republicans who tend to be more of the religious flock and the sacrament of marriage with donald trump. The reason im saying this is from a personal experience. I came from a very religious family. And my father was not always the nicest person in the world and many times his children have said, why are you staying, mom . And my mother told us and i think this is very important that there is a sacrament of marriage not only between she betweenather but also she my father and god. It was incredibly important sacrament. So when i see trump and his three marriages that seem like they were imported for looks and everything, i have to ask the republicans, when you go off and abortion and everything, why is it that marriage all of a sudden doesnt matter to the religious right . I would like to ask the religious leaders, what exactly is it that its ok for donald trump to have his imported wives . It doesnt seem to be i dont know what the word is. Why isnt that important . Host the Washington Times highlights donald trump and the Trumps Campaign reaction to efforts at the rnc to get a conscience vote. For those delegates saying that his campaign is confident that the push to block his coronation will flameout at the rnc. The movement reflects lingering discontent that could undermine him before the election. Republican leaders and conservative activists engineered a free the delegates movement and set up a command center in cleveland. They plan to launch an ad campaign to support the effort. The cochair of the Trump Campaign said, i think cooler heads will prevail. We had one of those representatives on the program this past sunday. Can go to our website for more information on that. David in kansas on the independent line. You are next. Caller thanks for the caller. America has woke up to some degree. Both parties have their faults. Everybody has a fault someplace. Hillary can get congress and the house is out on a term limit like the president is, its not going to ever change. The politicians forget or they come from and they change for what they want just for them. We need to go back to how it was in the 1800s. They supply their own jobs. They live on the same level of insurance and benefits as the american public. Theyve realized with their grassroots are. What we have to do now is have a petition for term limits. Thank you. Host laurel, maryland. Joseph is on the republican line. Good morning. Caller good morning. First of all just to let you know, im not a gun owner but i do support peoples right to own guns. One of the issues as i have notened to this nofly kno question is, what if someone is deemed to be a threat to the american citizenry, they cant buy a gun. But what if they already have 35 tons in their arsenal guns in their arsenal . I have called all the representatives who are advocates of this no fly no buy and nobody can answer that question. Its a futile attempt. If someone wants to buy a gun and they are just trying to increase their arsenal, maybe they already have an arsenal and all they are doing is adding to it. I would like to hear from says,dy somewhere that whatever legislation we introduce is going to address that somebody who is a known that person bad person that not only do we let them buy a gun but maybe confiscate what theyve already got. If anybodys got an opinion or a view id love to hear it because congress clearly doesnt. They just want to prevent people from buying guns. Which i dont have a problem with they are a terrorist or problem maker. Host florida on the democrat line. Hi. Caller thank you for taking my call. Im sorry i couldnt get through when mr. Olson was on because these comments are for him. I heard him talk can you hear me . Host go ahead. You are on still. Caller thank you for taking my call. My comment was really for mr. Olson was off the air now about the constitution. People are only citing the constitution as a sacrosanct and unchangeable document that we shouldnt even think about changing it because of the original intent of the framers. And i would point out to you as mr. Olson im sure fully is aware of that we have the bill of rights which the framers themselves developed because they knew that the constitution was not a perfect document. They even went further and came up with the idea of a constitutional convention. Because they knew that in the future there would be other issues that arose that needed to be addressed just as important as those that they had outlined both in the constitution and the bill of rights. One is pertinent because glaring obvious reason is when they developed the right to bear arms, the arms they were talking about were muskets. They were for protection from wild animals and from the redcoats when these laws were promulgated. Host ok. Caller they had no idea that there would be a semi automatic weapon that could kill people in mass numbers. Tim ine will go to minneapolis on the independent line. Hi. Caller thanks for taking my call. As an independent im really in a dilemma with trump and hillary. They are going at it. Its a crazy choice. Youve got one or the other and they both have such defect. S. Hillary use the secretary of States Office as a slush fund for the foundation they call it whenever they needed something done they go to a third world country and take all these big donations and follow up with will right away to go do a speech and then you have trumps university. Its like which way do you turn . Its crazy out there. Host if you had to vote for one today who would you choose . Caller its up in the air right now. Trump is not much better. I dont think im going to vote. Its crazy. Maybe things will turn. But at this point its like, im not even going to bother. Host that was tim in minneapolis. In the Washington Post taking a look at a new Energy Initiative from the u. S. , canada and mexico. Trying to make more of a shift to electricity by 2025. The commitment will be a joint one and represents an aggressive target given the reliance by the United States and mexico on fossil fuels for much of their electricity supply. Electricity is generated by hydropower so it has already surpassed the targeted benchmark. The new commitment includes renewables and nuclear power. Cleveland, ohio. Joe on the republican line. Are you excited for the convention thats going to come to your city in july . Caller after the cavaliers won the championship i hope its a peaceful event for cleveland. I would like to make a comment about Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren and Debbie Wasserman schultz. It appears to me that these women have such then in hatred for the american white male and have created so much in this country and they are ok with 55,000, the 5 million abortions but they are worried about guns killing people. Forceps andabandon make them the weapon that is most dangerous to society. These immoral liberal women hate everything that is moral in this country. They will accept anything. Transgender. Homosexual marriages. Its absurd. The morality that these people lack is so evident that why anyone would want to vote for any of those liberal people is beyond me and i so much thank you for your time. Host usa today highlights the Volkswagen Settlement that has been proposed by volkswagen. 15 billion to settle the scandal. The deal is expected to include 10 billion to repair or buyback cars which it admits it ri gged to pass emissions tests. The deal must be approved by a judge. Pay 2. 7 billion in fines and devote another 2 billion to clean emissions technology. North carolina, republican line. Caller yes. I was calling about donald trump. That college thing. Everybody goes to college and nobody comes out. Knowing much anything anyway. These people liked it. Elizabeth warren was talking about Donald Trumps golf thing about how he was so happy the u. K. Dropped the went out of that thing so he could make more money on his thing. He did not say that. He said, they dropped their currency. She talked about how he makes himself rich. Shes rich. So is Hillary Clinton. Hillary clinton is getting millions, hundreds of millions of dollars from all these muslim countries and they hate women and they hate gays and everything. I dont think she is for women if shes taking country from another country that hates women. Thats all i need to say. Thank you. Host the New York Times takes a look at electric cars and the people who are buying them. So far this year nearly 75 of people have traded in a hybrid or electric car to a dealer and replaced it with an all gas car. Jump from 2015. Obama set asident goal of one million electric cars on the road by 2015. That figure is more like 440,000 electric cars on the road currently. Larry in atlantic city, new jersey on independent line. Larry from atlantic city. David. O to david is in springfield, vermont. Good morning. Caller morning. How are you doing today . Host fine thank you. Caller i wanted to leave a comment or the gentleman talking about the Second Amendment and the framing of the constitution. Secondn purpose of the amendment was to provide for the common defense of the American People against a possibly oppressive government. Which is why they had the weapons to protect against the redcoats. They also knew in the future there could possibly be an oppressive government that wanted to override the rights the constitution had set up. Also the Second Amendment was developed for personal protection because there was no at that time governmentfunded Law Enforcement to protect people in their homes and the government knew they could not do that so they gave every citizen the right to protect them selves themselves. Host from ohio. Independent line. Caller yes sir. How are you doing . Just to follow up on the previous caller. Former marine, 12 years. Served volunteer. My father retired Civil Service down in charleston. My mother worked for the commander. Grew up steeped in civil war history. Its really difficult to look back, hindsight 2020 and try to apply modern day thinking to the constitution like that. We just have to put ourselves in the times. The First Amendment was there to redress grievances with the government. It was all about dealing with government because this nation was founded during a time of turmoil. The Second Amendment was clearly there once you have exhausted all of those opportunities to deal with the government in those kinds of matters civilly, that if you felt it take hated to take upctated it, arms and address matters. In the south the times was, they would run people out on a rail and that kind of stuff. They were much more real about it. Today you can even say a word or make a comment without considered to be politically incorrect. The reality of the matter is that the Second Amendment was there to keep government in line. Any government. And to provide for the people. It was saying, we created this wonderful nation was a great opportunity but we have to be vigilant. I would like people to think about putting it into perspective. First amendment first. Do what you are supposed to do civilly. If the government is being oppressive and to some extent they certainly are, you have to deal with it otherwise. The administrative procedures, i can deal with things administratively. Most people dont understand how that works. I think they should take a look at it. Host the wall street journal takes a look at the u. S. Role in dealing with allies coming from the vote on the eu that took late last week. Mesays mr. Obama will to with the leaders of the European Commission during a trip to warsaw next week for a nato summit. Discuss ways to respond to the message sent by british voters. Mr. Obama will encourage eu leaders to show greater flexibility on the economy and further address the micro crisis migrant crisis. One option will be the creation of a joint natoeu commission that would give the u. S. A seat at the table when eu Security Issues are discussed. West virginia, republican line. Good morning. Caller good morning. Ive been listening to cspan for quite a while and never got a chance to get on. Women of the Supreme Court on the abortion. Women can have an abortion. Kill their babies. And its their right. Its their body. But the government said, we have to have insurance. Insurance its our body. We can have a choice to have insurance or not. So its a double standard in the United States today. And its kind of sad. The university of michigan has done a study taking a look at outofpocket hospital costs. Outofpocket hospital costs to more thanh year 1000 in 2013. A Research Fellow at the medical school said their team was motivated to study the patient burden from hospital costs after reading a Time Magazine cover story that told the story that people faced with staggering hospital bills. They examined data from three major insurers covering 50 Million People. They included employersponsored insurance as well as people who bought individual market plans but the analysis did not extend long enough to capture policies offered by the Affordable Care act. The lead of that Research Team said she was surprised by the results. The growth and how much patience shouldered was patients shouldered was substantial. A growing portion of hospitalizations required coinsurance or fell under a deductible. From new york city, this is joe. Democrats line. Good morning. Caller hi. My name is joe. I watch the show all the time and i think you are very fair. I would like to talk about the report on benghazi. Host go ahead. Caller hearing that they were saying that it is a video all the time knowing that it wasnt a video. They said it was a peaceful demonstration that went bad. And you have Hillary Clinton, 3 00 in the morning her phone aint ringing. Her phone is ringing and she dont answer the phone. The president was updated in the morning. He gets on the plane and goes fundraising with harry reid. I mean its disgusting. And then when the bodies came back, Hillary Clinton told the family members that were right there that it was a video and were going to get to the bottom of this, were going to get them. She lied. She knew what was going on. I think its disgraceful. And she wants to be our president . This is the last ambassador to get murdered was jimmy carter was president when jimmy carter was president. And now theres this ambassador deepens. Stevens. And its terrific. They were and its horrific. They were begging for help and they didnt get anything. Hillary clinton has american blood on their hands and shes not qualified to clean bathrooms. Host and 800 page report that was released from the House Elect Committee on benghazi. You can find that on bengh azi. House. Gov. It gives the highlights of the findings of the report. At 10 00 this morning in just a few minutes, there will be a press conference on the release of this report. We will take you there as soon as that starts. Melissa in california. Republican line. You are next. Caller hello . Host hi. Caller im a conservative and im voting for trump. And its very important for the Supreme Court if people are concerned about life to vote for him. Because we are going to have to have Supreme Court. You know, judges. And its not good to have pride, people. Pride goes before destruction. Its also not good to cast the first stone. So its important that we stick together. Or we will have hillary. Whowill have justices dont see our views on life. Host is your decision to support mr. Trump based on the Supreme Court only . Believe he is going to do fair trade for jobs. Which is also a christian principle. For american jobs. To take care of our brothers and anders like the miners people were forgotten and made fun of, the factory workers. They count. I believe he will do something. Is he perfect . None of us are. And we have to, you know, do what is right and not be proud. I see the conservatives and they say, oh, hes not perfect. I had to bite my lip and vote for mitt romney. And he had romney care which is just like obamacare. I think they are not being honest. They are talking about money with the big corporations for the trading. And all the American People see this. We know whats going on. Host ok. Apologies for cutting off like that. Amy. Fairport, new york. Democrats line. Caller hi there. I just find it so interesting the dump trump folks are saying he doesnt represent the Republican Party. He actually does. If you lie down with misogynists, racists, xin enophobes, and bullies, you will end up with donald trump. Caller i amvious voting for the Supreme Court and im voting for hillary. Host the first lady, her daughters and her mother on a tour of countries talking about Girls Education issues. The first lady, her mother and daughters came along for her latest foreign trip. Morocco and spain are also on the five day itinerary. They will meet with organizations that support let girls learn, an initiative aimed at improving Living Conditions for girls worldwide not enrolled in school. She highlighted other federal programs. Reducemillion project to child labor in liberias rubber growing areas and a Child Nutrition Program and other elements as well. Thats in the Washington Post this morning. Veronica is up next. For on a from pennsylvania. Go ahead. Caller good morning. Im calling about trump being in scotland. They just took little parts of what he said. He was that trump, opening trump for his mother and everything, because she went there for lunch all the time, she loved it because she was scottish. Im scottish but im american now. And scotland britain is the size of wisconsin. How can you possibly have all these people going in there . Im so glad that they are taking their country back. Now i want to talk about hillary. And whats her name . Elizabeth warren. Elizabeth warren. Are i believe, like the other color saying they were hateful about men you could see the venom coming out of their mouths. Pure venom. For the democrats to think that they are good for this country, are you kidding me . Dont care about lies. They dont care about deception. They only care about calling us racist. Im afraid to burn my toast in case i am called racist. They have taken it to to have a level. Brett steve from