Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 20141216

President obama speaking to troops. It is tuesday morning. Our question this morning, based on the events in sydney, australia, the isis Terror Threat do they worry you . Join the conversation. Many people weighing in on our facebook page. Send us a tweet. Good tuesday morning. Lets begin with a look at some of the headlines. The two victims who work at the coffee shop. In this headline, a nation mourned. No, no, no. Ia, they wouldhat execute the hostages. We want to share with you this headline, more than 100 schoolchildren killed in a taliban and attack according to local officials. The death toll has reached a total of 126. Another 122 people injured. And have been killed at the school. The search continues for the remaining gunmen. At random. Shooting a journalist at seen heard gunfire from the school. Carriedof ambulances to hospitals. Do isis threats worry you . David jackson is joining us. He is the White House Correspondent for usa today. Since the attacks, what have you heard from the administration . Guest it was concerning. They have talked about the threat from lone wolves, people who are not part of a terrorist group, but believe in the jihad and some of these goals. There is fear that someone might walk into a coffee shop and take hostages and start shooting people. Host when it comes to the cia and others, what can we do with these lone wolf attacks . I suspect they can look over their procedures and talk to local businesses about procedures. This country has been warned or asked to make sure they maintain security in their establishments. Will look at some of the security procedures. This goes to the larger issue of what the president was talking about. [video clip] fighters,e taking out commanders, vehicles and tanks. The infrastructure that funds , we are taking them out. It is because of the work you do. We are cutting the command and control and making it harder for them to maneuver. Forcesorces have held and pushed back isil in some places. Because of you, we have blocked the momentum and put them on the defensive. They are learning the same thing the leaders of al qaeda have learned the hard way. They may think they can chalk up quake victories, but our reach is long and we do not give up. The worldnd you and is going to leave you behind and keep moving on without you. We will get you. Host the president. Many are referring to this as a whack a mole. You deal with one area like afghanistan and then it pops up in other parts of the world. Struck by his comments yesterday. He is pushing back against some of those that you just referenced. We are hurting their ability to reach out beyond the borders. Administration, there have not been major attacks since 9 11. They declared that a success. We remember the airplane bomber, the underwear bomber that took place during the christmas holiday. We live in a different error. How do we prepare for that . Guest technically, the president is never on vacation. His first year in option in office, there was a near terrorist attack over detroit. Notas criticized for responding to that for a couple of days. He will be on top of it, should something happen. Host david jackson, White House Correspondent. Guest thank you. Some of the scenes outside the coffee shop in downtown sydney. We want to ask you about isis Terror Threats. Do they worry you . Caller they worry me because we his own words. Se it is a disgusting video of four americans who died. What difference does it make . We will enforce the border by moving guns to mexico and everything else. We will make a world apology tour. I lose track. It is a joke. He is supposed to be the world leader. Nobody respects us. Nobody fears us. If i was a terrorist, i would say this is the best ally we can have and i hope you could run for a third term and we can get othery or one of these progressives elected so they could be on our side. Host thank you for the call. About 16 hours after the siege, three dead, including the iranian refugee and two chocolateof the lindt coffee shop. One viewer saying the war on terror has not made us more safe. The are caller discussion is limited. You do a great service, but all you are talking about is the major headlines, the major party views, how much war and how to conduct it. President obama said about , you cannot get anywhere through violence. You have to have peaceful protest. Hell send troops everywhere in the world. This content is destroying any piece and it is coming back here and is trying our peace and joy. Host thank you for the call. Time magazine reporting on the attack. Here is the headline. Sis casting a shadow connected or not . A long way from 9 11. Isis has defined itself by not being al qaeda. Proven,le as they have that is what a fighting force does in a war. The war isis is fighting is located in the middle east. It is to establish its vision of islam. Next caller comes from nantucket, massachusetts. Welcome to the program. Thank you for cspan. It is a wonderful program. I want to make a comment on the person that called from tennessee. Tennessee is the leading welfare state in the country. He should increase his medication and stop listening to the crazy people on the radio. Have anyn we do not respect in this country is because we get rigid because he gets ridiculed as president. He is the president of our country. They are trying to make him look like a full. Thank you for your program. Host Fred Applegate has this point. The actions of our own government are more of a threat than isis. If anyone hassays not noticed, we are in a new age, terrorwise. Get your gun permit, learn how to shoot, and protect yourself and your family. Democrats line, boston, good morning. Caller the gentleman who remarked on the caller from tennessee, he just took all of the words for me. I agree. I am worried about isis and other terrorist attacks, but what we need to do is stop listening to people like dick cheney, whose definition of terror is from the Twilight Zone and also we have to stop Islamic Religious officials to step forward and start defining more clearly what islam is. A religion of peace, it needs to be stated that way. If you do not have the people getting these false ideas of what the religion is about. Host thank you for the call. One viewer says no, the Defense Department gets too much money for me to worry. The headline we want to share, from pakistan, this is from the telegraph. 126 hostages feared dead, including over 100 schoolchildren. We will follow that throughout the morning. Boulder, colorado, democrats line. Isis and am afraid of all of the radical islamic groups. Felt, for the past couple of years that the world should ban islam the same way it banned shinto buddhism and not theism azism. N they should take all of the countries, all of their oil, and hold all of it. To kill us. Ng they will get their hands on Nuclear Weapons and they will destroy the world. Facing what we faced in pre, we are facing it now. Im afraid for my children, i am afraid for everybody. Take the entire religion of islam seriously. It should be banned. I equate it to it realistic to ban a religion . We banned not seize nazis. Before. T we did it with shinto buddhism. It is going to be done sooner or later. The first time a Nuclear Weapon goes off in paris or the United States, you watch, the world will turn against the muslim religion is not a peaceful religion. It is nonsense. Host thank you for the call. More details on the shooting in sydney, australia. Australia siege tests its ties with muslims. The siege came at a time of growing tensions. Agencies onent radical elements of the muslim community, as many as 70 muslims have had their passports confiscated after suspicions were raised at that they were planning to travel to syria or iraq to fight with Islamic Militant groups. My next call is fred, reynoldsburg, ohio. Good morning. Good morning. The point i am making, for your listeners, the culture of hatred the teachings in many of the mosques and by people whose teaching of power people. E destruction of muslims have killed 7. 5 million other muslims. They have killed over 3 million christians. We do not come to the realization. We have allowed it to fester. The only democratic country, one of the few Success Stories of , the violence receives so much attention and pressure from the United States. Defends are dying to religious freedom. The Palestinian Authority and arafat has written about it. Their goal is to establish a caliphate in jerusalem. That is why they want jerusalem. They forbid jews to live in jerusalem. We support it and now europe and the European Union officially no jews allowed and a hate culture. You can read that the textbooks and see in the map of their politicians, it does not exist. This point. Has no desire to travel abroad. Danger is all over. Headlines as the hostage drama ends. Questions about lone wolf extremists. Guardian in great britain, three dead in a sydney cafe siege. A terror wakeup call. Caller we are ignoring the one thing going on in australia. He was able to come into the country because he was getting persecuted. We are about to let a lot of people have amnesty and we do not know the intent of these people. We may not just have one, we may have 100,000 people in our country and the taliban and will be delighted to have that happen. The situation in china. Around 300 chinese fight along isis. Those chinese are fighting along the Islamic State in syria and iraq. A rare tally likely to fuel worry and china. Nervous about the effects it would have on the country. Verall it shows no signs of using efforts. Next, a caller from new haven, connecticut. Dickam not afraid of isis, cheney says he does not care, i am more afraid of being guy from. Ennsylvania that is more problematic than terrorists. Any nutcase with a gun to go shoot up any school or any Movie Theater and do anything. That is my concern. You are referencing the that took place in the doylestown area. Looking for next marine. You have the New York Times on vinson. E uss carl the role of the u. S. Navy, striking from five areas of u. S. Territory. Other emissions begin with basis throughout the gulf. Karen, North Carolina, good morning. Saddened andreally sick of the hate speech i have been hearing this morning against muslims. Like muslims have radicals that do crazy things, like mom world trade centers, does not mean that the christians do not have radicals, that jewish people do not have radicals. Radicals in every religion. It does not mean the whole religion is bad. It is sad. It is antiamerican. We are supposed to be the melting pot. What happened to those times . It is disturbing. The muslims have the same god as we do as christians. Host i am going to stop you there. For the call. We have to move on. We want to check in on the latest with sydney, australia. Good day. Thank you for being with us. We appreciate your time and insight following what happened in downtown sydney. Any new information . Guest [indiscernible] storming the premises of the cafe after they heard the gunshot going off. The gunman was killed. Unfortunately, two hostages were killed. It is not clear whether these gunmanwere killed by the or crossfire. Going to be an investigation before police find out what went on. We has been there has been out pouring of grief from the public. People have come into the city to lay flowers to show solidarity with the families and express grief. We have been looking at the pictures of the flowers. Involved, man haron monis, was he a lone wolf or any connection to other terror groups . Guest it seems like he is a lone wolf. That he no information, bu was connected to isis or other groups. He had a history of violence and extremist islamic views. Selfproclaimed irani and cleric and refugee. For runins with the law. He was mentally unstable. He had been charged with offenses such as indecent assault, accessory to murder over the death of his exwife he was on bail at the time of the incident. Guilty ofn found sending letters to families of soldiers killed in afghanistan. He posted graphic extremist comments on his website. He used it as a platform to rail carried out by western forces. No evidence of actual groups. In terms of his motivation, he did make a series of demands. Revealing their negotiations with them. He made the hostages make a number of calls to media. He made them take videos distributed by social media. Was an isisdemands , to brought to him interview the prime minister. One was that it would be favored by officials that this was an isis event. He wanted to align himself with the group for whatever reason. It is being referred to as a terrorist attack. In may some formal to intercept because there is not that communication between the perpetrators. When people are mentally they respond to this type of call. Host a very busy day for you. We apologize for the slight connection issue. Thank you for being with us. We appreciate it. Guest thank you. Host terror free for years. Australia confronts extremists. The other story we follow, the taliban and responsible for deaths of more than 100 schoolchildren in pakistan. The death toll at 126. Asking, don we are isis Terror Threats worry you . Caller why should i worry about what is going on thousands of miles away when here at home, just in pennsylvania, six people died yesterday. Nobody is talking about it. Anothere anniversary of white boy that killed 26, 27 kids and adults. Nobody said that is not terrorists. We branded them as being mentally ill. When this guy that killed six yesterday. He has something wrong with his brain. They are terrorists. If a muslim kills one person, to people, it is terrorists. If a white boy, he is mentally ill. If it is black, they are thugs and they do not have a father. People ining these nevada. Those guys have rifles trained on the police. If those have been muslims are blacks, they would still shoot them out of helicopters. Host thank you for the call. Another viewer saying an angry guy kills two a u. S. Marine kills six. Guns kill. No doubt about that. Banned substance arsenals. I am not worried about isis. What i worry about is our own governments. September 10, 2001, the day before 9 11, donald runs field gets on tv and tells us he lost 2. 3 trillion. The very next day, 9 11 happens. A 757 through through the pentagon. It left a hole the size of a two car garage. That aircraft is huge. The engines are six tons apiece and they would have scraped off on the ground. Jet that fastly a that low to the ground. Host stockbridge, georgia. Caller i am fearful. We do not know who is around us from day to day. I am upset with the president. I think we need to go back to what truman was. The buck stops here. Do the right thing. When germany, we got involved. I think we need to take matters into our own hands and move ahead with molding our in moving our military in. Headlines, looks like a. Com doom looks like a dotcom doom. As russia ramps up issue Interest Rates at 17 . Shock and on as they try to shore up the ruble. Friends of the accuser beginning to doubt the story completely, citing internet phone number and bogus names. A test tower is not operational. From the front page of the Washington Post. Isis Terror Threat, does it worry you . I am 58 years old. I have been living in america. The black unemployment. Ate vision of america, that is what i fear most. We are so separated in america. I fear people in america more than people in the middle east. My history, it is repeating and i do not want to myself. America has been killing for the longest. Host what will the fed do with Interest Rates . The headline from the Washington Post, time is of the essence. Wall street keeping a close eye on what the fed decides to do. Inside the opinion page of the the reagan journal, clinton template for success. The piece is Available Online. Caller good morning. What i fear most is the culture of fear. The truth about why bin laden attacked us in the first place was held back. I do not think you are going to see that on this program. This ominous enemy and , this culture of just where anything goes, saved me whatever you have to do, spy on me, take away my rights, murder other people with. Hock and all we talk about how horrible the heading is. Imagine yourself, a citizen of and all of these people are sending crews missiles from 15 her miles away and there is no place to hide. In ona lot of you weigh the question. Cameron says, no. One day, evil will be gone. Pure love will one day rule his creation. Moster rights that definitely, it is only going to be a matter of time when it will raise its ugly head here again in our country. The next call is gina. Republican line. Good morning. Caller i fear what our president has done to the blacks in this country. Them tost given feel like they can do anything and get by with it. Should not be arrested, no matter what they do. He has set Race Relations back 50 years and then is what he intended to do. That need tople take responsibility for their actions. Just like the girl in mississippi who was set on fire. It was her black boyfriend and and not one word of that has been mentioned in the media. The media is afraid to say me thing that blacks actually do. Host can we get one day the race card cannot be pulled . No references or inferences allowed. The situation in sydney, australia, being called a terror wakeup call. Caller good morning. Want to make a comment about the problems in the world. To this is to be and packing the church houses. I appreciate you taking my call. Host cuts keeping navy vessels drydock. Politically motivated budget cuts and a hiring freeze have workforce incapable of maintaining its most valuable hardware. The issue of the isis threats, and they worry you . Republicans, 202 7488001. Democrats, 202 7488000. Cnn reporting on the trip. He spoke inside a new jersey airplane hangar with a massive navy c130 as the backdrop. We have blunted the momentum. Our question is whether or not these Terror Threats worry you personally. Youngstown, ohio, democrats line. Caller it does concern me. I think the nation is so divided right now. It is ridiculous because it is divided. It is race. Messagea loud and clear concerning who we are and what we are when we do not stand up for our own women and allow them to be raped and no justice. Other nations throughout the world know who we are and what we are doing. Host thank you for the call. Caller i am frightened about what i am hearing about the comments made. It is frightening. Hatred for one race and another is unbelievable. Found out it was a black boy that burned that poor woman. The way he burned her, he let her on fire inside and outside. There was a lot of hate in that murder. Theres so much hatred in that country and that is what i am afraid of. I fear war all over this earth many religious people are thinking we are drifting and more our creator and more into hedonistic behavior. It looks like the world is going the way the bible stories of old, babylon, and how god destroyed the planet, a group of people, it is frightening. It is totally frightening. Host the public has become more worried about the islamic extremism. 62 concerned about the rise of the islamic extremism around the world. We will go next to james. Good morning. Caller i have a quote. It is from lincoln. It goes like this. At what point shall we expect the approach of danger . Shall some transatlantic giant step to the atlantic and strike is a bloke . Never. Of europe, armies asia, or africa can take a drink from the ohio or make a trek along the blue ridge. If destruction be our lot, we must live free together or die by suicide. The call. K you for we focus on other issues. 2008, gulflapse of oil spill, chinas air pollution lost on you . This, from benjamin netanyahu. He said i would want to send my andolences to tony abbott to the australian people over the loss of innocent life. David, cool so, ohio. Good morning. Caller i believe president obama should know his history you shouldknow that cut the head off the snake. Fly over there. What we did to the germans and the japanese, take them out. Let them know that we are the big boys on the block. I am tired of hearing about isis. Do , wherets to going to have to tear that too. We will have to figure it out, someway, somehow. Headlines as the road to the white house 20 16 begins. This is from the wall street journal. Will jeb bush run . He leaves few clues. Announcing thed, release of 250,000 emails. Considering ae is bid. That is from inside the wall street journal. Mike pence, the governor of indiana, he describes the ideal candidate is it him . From inside the washington times, a draft form for mitt romney into the race as operatives question who is behind the effort. Another headline from the metro section of the Washington Post. Martin omalley likely to put off an announcement until the spring. He spent the next couple of days meeting with donors in annapolis before stepping down. Trump, here in washington yesterday, here is what he had to say. [video clip] people think i am playing games. I enjoy the process to a certain extent. The country is in serious trouble. We have debt to places like china and others. We are in serious trouble. When might you make a decision . After the beginning of the year. Sometime in march, april, were made. Host a busy spring. Two years and does, its before the primaries and caucuses in iowa and new hampshire. We are going to take a break. When we come back, we are going to dodd frank. Part of the 1. 1 trillion spending plan is a provision that eases some of the regulations. We will get background from Emily Stephenson of reuters. Then, we will talk to the woodhouse brothers. Your calls and comments and what it is like for brad and dallas woodhouse. Ford, talking about the way forward to resolving the conflict in syria. Yesterday. He spoke here are some of his comments about the situation on the ground. [video clip] i was with secretary kerry for all of those efforts and the geneva process ended in a complete collapse in february. Kimoontation from ban to the party was to come to geneva to discuss implementation of the june 2012 geneva s andique and ban kimoon rotation starter with the transitionnt of a government. However, in geneva itself,lthough the delegation came and then opposition delegation came, there was no progress. Things on the delegation. The opposition delegation was ,ed by the political opposition what they call the National Opposition coalition. There were representatives of ined opposition groups geneva. They were staying at a hotel. The political people were in touch with the military people constantly. Armed opposition figures at the negotiating table. They stayed in the background. Frequently set why should we talk to you . You represent nothing. Political responder said we will coordinate, and the regime was not interested. The political opposition in february, a total failure. The political opposition in february gave to the united , to theirn writing envoy, a written proposal, which said if i could sum it up we are willing to negotiate a transition unity government. We are open to discussing all aspects of it, understanding and has full executive authority in mind with the geneva communique. It did not precondition removal. All of our programming Available Online at cspan. Org. Part of our growing video library. Emily stephenson, thank you for being with us. Good morning. Host the debate over the spending bill includes easing on the regulations of dodd frank. Is in this legislation, this law, and what impact it has on law. In response to the financial crisis does a range of things to clean up Financial Systems. It creates the financial prospective Protection Bureau and requires banks to rely less on harrowing to fund activities. It has a range of requirements to clean up derivatives trading. Is a wide ranging response to the financial crisis. Derivatives are risky trades that you saw come up in aig. We are talking about the swaps push out rule. If you do certain types of these risky trades, you cannot do it within the bank. That is where you are accepting consumer deposits and you are backed up high fdic insurance. The push out rule says you have to push it out into separate units. Warren adamant this was the wrong way to go. This is a headline you have wall street scores a win and eyes more victory. Guest there is a wish list of things they would like to scale back in. Frank and you have seen a lot of these things pop up 2010. The law passed in they want changes to the focal rule. To the volker all of these things are things that they are going to push in the next congress. As republicans who have been critics of dodd frank, you will see more of these things coming up. Own stocks, why should this be of concern . Guest this is the response to the financial crisis. To scale back to make things safer work to restructure of the bureau that was created to look out for the Consumer Financial interest will be relevant to you. It wallat is on streets target . Guest along with the swap provision, there is the volker rule. Banks cannot make risky trade with their own money. Regulators have finalized the rules, but they expanded some of the exceptions to the rules. This is the banks strategy, giving investments fathered in. That is what they will push for. They want to see changes to the Bankruptcy Code. Republicans and banks have made an argument that the Bankruptcy Code is not set up to deal well with banks when they start to fail. You will see pushes to make changes to make that work more smoothly. Host senator warren opposed the bill. It did pass the house and the senate. She is very much opposed to what lawmakers put into the plan. [video clip] this provision would repeal a prohibition against federal government bailouts. On wednesday i came to talk to democrats, asking them to strip this provision and protect taxpayers. On thursday, i came to the florida talk to republicans. Republicans said they did not like bailouts either. I asked them to vote the way they talk. Thiscould take out provision that puts taxpayers right back on the hook for bailing out these banks. Today, i am coming to the floor, not to talk about democrats or apublicans, but to talk about third group that also wields tremendous power in washington. Citigroup. Years, many institutions have inserted extraordinary influence in. Ashington citigroup has risen above the others. Its grip over Economic Policy making in the executive branch is unprecedented. Host last week, senator elizabeth warren. How much support did she have within the party . She got a lot of democrats to oppose the spending bill, which takes some of the negotiators in the white house by surprise. It was in question for a couple of days about how democrats would vote for the bill. It has been around since dodd frank passed. Into other put bills. It was part of the appropriation negotiation for several months. The senaterd from appropriation negotiators was that republicans came to them frankix or seven dodd changes. This was the one they could handle. They let it stay in the bill. Host let me ask you about another player. , the chief executive at j. P. Morgan, wall street wins a round in the fight. Guest he was calling on lawmakers to vote for the spending bill. Where up a funny parallel president obama and jamie dimon were within votes for the same bill. The white house supports dodd frank. They do not want to see changes to dodd frank. They felt the provision was narrow enough and not central to dodd frank, so they felt like they could support the spending bill and deal with the provision. Host why such a dichotomy . Part of the reason they walked back on it was because a lot of regulators have come out and said they are not sure this provision makes the Financial System safer and that it would cost banks a lot of money. Is it necessary . Host in a sentence or two, dodd frank does what . Guest it cleans up the financials after the financial crisis. Host good morning, ray. Give us a history in the dodd frank in the last part of clintons term. How being current stem threatened banks to get out these loans and mortgages. To lend out the people which caused the downfall in the crisis. Put a halt on these ,oans without anything down without verifying income. They caused the meltdown and they came up with the regulations to fix it. You ought to discuss the things they did prior to this. They are millionaires and they have good jobs. One of them is employed by the banking industry. You can talk a good game, but do your history. Host thank you. Initially, there were rules that said banks and Investment Banking had to be split up. Away at those rules over time until they were allowed to form these big institutions and that was a thing that was criticized in the financial crisis, how big they were. One of the things you are getting at, this is a strategy that wall street has used before. They chip away at these regulations over time. That is what liberals are concerned about. Banks willncerned chip away at dodd frank until the things we did to respond to the financial crisis are gone. There is also criticism and the claim of Revolving Doors antonio rice and facing opposition including from senator warren, who has minced nomination. Ce his senator warren has really met the charge for antonio rice. Antonio weiss. At that criticism for a while, that we have a tendency to bring people into wall street and red wall street and regulate wall street. Door has of revolving gotten criticism. Another part of the criticism thebeen over his work with Burger King Tim hortons deal, considered a tax inversion, and tax inversions have come under a lot of criticism in congress this year. Trying to fight these on the one hand, and giving people government jobs who worked on these deals on the other hand. You have to understand where the bodies are buried. An insider would be a person who can do that. How do you respond . Guest several people who held a job in the past have come up in support of the nominee and said exactly where exactly what you are saying. You need to know where the bodies are buried. Host the wall street scores a win in washington with the inclusion of easy regulations in dodd frank and a spending plan the president will be signing. ,y guess is Emily Stephenson and cjs on the phone from wyoming. Good morning. Really just as return to the baseline again, prior to the crisis. That we not to say should not, but this is the. Hing we set up before i love the little dance they did by trying to obscure it amongst and torture release at the same time. That was a sweet twist to the whole matter. This is really getting us the next hit on what has amassed over the years. I think what he had on is what senator warren and liberals are concerned about, that banks will keep chipping away at the regulations until theyre gone. 1. I have not made yet and i made this point in the story i mentioned earlier, is that the dodd frank law will not be repealed. Nobodys really pushing for that. Of doddant portions frank are probably not going anywhere anytime soon. If you think Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is going anywhere, you are misunderstanding how much support senator warren has in congress. These kinds of new rules that regulators are enforcing that banks have to rely less on debt to fund themselves and rely more on share holders, those are not going away anytime soon. Over time, is that the banks keep lobbying at the rules that are there. Quantitative easing, hey cspan, we expect to hear more from the fed chairman next week our Interest Rates are going, but a lot of people are thinking we are just artificially pumping up the market. That is really not my area. I cover bank regulations. The fed has been involved in forcing dodd frank and in writing the rules that implement dodd frank. Host greg, independent line, good money. Caller good morning. Caller good morning. Gentleman was pretty much blaming the crisis on clinton the gob. E signed is, why dont we implement glasssteagall . Quinn was cornered. It was a republican rule. A republican legislation. He was impeached. Politician, so, my question is, why not just three implement . Implement . Actually, i think you will see a lot of lobbying against dodd frank in the next congress, but i and there is a populist strain, especially on the senate side, of both democrats and republicans who are skeptical of the too big to fail banks, who will push for more regulation and i think you will see a push for breaking up the banks. The reason this push out for vision has been a concern for a lot of people is that it says you cannot do certain types of trades within the deposit taking banks that you have to push it out to another unit. That is sort of a step in another direction. That is one of the reasons you saw a lot of concern about the spending bill. The practicality of the spending bill, does it mean there are fewer regulators, your regulations question mark guest regulations . , and doesrolls back not entirely repealed. It just sort of scales back the derivatives. We have not yet really seen substantial regulations the removed. But you do see exemptions thing,g and that kind of which people think weakens the rules. Lets go to chris from connecticut. Good morning. Caller hello, if i could just make a couple points. Thank you very much for bringing up this topic. I think it is very important. Derivatives is 700 trillion, nobody really knows. So how well could they be regulated . The collateral, there is not enough money in the world to cover with derivatives. This is very dangerous. I also want to warn people that oil is collapsing right now. It is down about 50 a barrel. Currencies are collapsing right now as we speak here, any derivative contracts are tied commodities, currencies, we do not know. Idea. E no the Federal Reserve, are they supposed to be doing a backdoor regulation on these things . They never have, they are obviously not doing it now. What is wrong with the Federal Reserve . How come they are not regulating these markets . The important thing to say is there is no difference between republicans and democrats on the banker legislations that go through there. They play good cop bad cop. The buck stops at barack obama. Foreign currencies . Caller they are regulating the theyre making on commodities, on currencies. Those that are laid down, and there is no collateral, 101 collateral contracts back and. Orth a very dangerous time right now. Thank you for the call. The headline this morning, the ruble is trying to shorten a, Vladimir Putin raising 50 in russia. Click something i did want to workers this week spoke for someone who didnt work for lincoln, who pushed out the provision for dodd frank in the first place and that person said, the push out was a good idea how much blood was not derivatives regulation dodd frank. This is not there are provisions that require more , at least checking them out and making sure theyre ok. There is a rule that says he will do it with more trading and cannot do with your own money. There is more focused on reporting derivatives, so we know what is going on with derivatives markets. It is a good point. Please explain how and why jarvis cause insurers such as aig to need a bailout . Guest it happens in other situations where banks make big and they wind up getting in trouble. We saw this recently in the jpmorgan london wales situation, where they were making big bets in their london office, which went that. I spoke to some democrats this week who had previously supported scaling back the frank anda of dodd against the spending bill they do not want to scale back that provision now and they said part of the reason they changed their mind was because of the jpmorgan situation because that sort ofs vote the lawmakers about they do not wantderivatives tr. Host explain what that is. Guest it is complicated, where you are trading i am to have to get all into it. Host you are making a bet to gain money am obviously. Aig made this bets. Joining us from ohio. Caller good morning. As an older person among the millions that lost money, and and itnvestment i had, has not come back, why in the world am i sending my tax dollars so that the billionaires, the lobbyists, and the banks can make this money . We are financing them and they are getting all the benefits. Gruber said we are stupid. We are stupid. Why are we sending our tax dollars to them . So they can make all this money and there are billions of people out here hungry. What is the problem . What country are we . Host thank you. Guest that speaks to the frustration a lot of people have about the big banks after the financial crisis and we saw this in the occupy wall street movement. People feel like the big banks have not been taken to task for what they did. Regulators rot numerous Enforcement Actions against these banks and they pay money to settle some of these accusations of wrongdoing. But you have not seen a wave of people going to jail that you might have expected him and that is in john senator warren has been critical of about the response to the financial crisis. A lot of people feel that way. They feel like there has been a legislative response and the regulatory response you do not see an impact of as a person sitting at home. Cannot really tell how much the Financial System has changed. The response you hear from the people who wrote dodd frank and the people in congress now is that there are a lot of things in place to make the system safer for you, particularly for americans who feel like they lost money in the financial crisis, there is a new Protection Bureau that is supposed to look out for you and make sure youre not object to scams. Who are thems of regulators, who else . Fed is a big regulator, the office of the comptroller regulates big banks. The Commodity Futures Trading Commission oversees driven is. Soup is a whole alphabet of regulators overseeing different parts of the Financial System. If you lose money in the market, it is your loss. Lets go to bob in jacksonville, florida. In morning. Caller good morning. Let me get one line across here. The bill was, no more bailouts. The actual creation of the team party was the bailouts. Breakdown, bute i watched a whole segment and i republicanr any speak against the bill. Evidently, the tea party is changing and therefore bailouts and are for bailouts. Which is it . What do you think . He will get a response. That is actually a good point. A good question to rain raised. There is a populist strain in the Republican Party that is skeptical of big banks. You did see some folks, some republicans, come out against, including the provision in the spending bill. I river in louisiana in particular, he came out and criticized rolling back the provision. Even though on the whole, we say republicans are critics of the frank, a lot of republicans are who,skeptical of big banks i think, was a certain provisions of dodd frank talk to stay in place, even if you want to rethink the way the majority of the law works. Host host it costs in the housd senate. Lets go to greg in michigan. Morning. Callerare you with us . Well try one more time or we will go to sue. I guess my question would be, why do we morning. Keep voting for the same people who put us in the fans thoughts . So, i willeem to be not call them, we seem to be so, andeveryone else rule vot then cry about it later. The rich keep getting richer. You keep voting for the same people just because you hate the color of one man. The whole country is knowing apart. That is my comment. Deserve. Actly what we when you do nothing and do not ask for anything to be done about nothing, then you get what you deserve. Are falling apart as a country. Thanks for the call him a democrats line from illinois. Do you want a response . Along those lines, you have democrats inolled, particular, responsible for how they feel the state of the economy is very you saw this in the recent midterms. It was a tough election for democrats and a lot of people are still sort of holding, democrats are being held responsible for some of these things. You also saw in this vote last week that democrats want to make sure that they are coming across as not weakening protections for the Financial System and if you are concerned about a primary challenge popping up to the left of you and you want to make sure youre in line with evil who may be seen as fighting or americans, and currently, senator warren is really seen as fighting for the everyday persons financial interest. Host back to the implementation of dodd frank lecture years ago, are there Financial Institutions which have particularly hit hard i these regulations . Can you point for a few . Guest a lot of them were car for the biggest banks. That is sort of the point. Last week, the Federal Reserve proposed a new rule that says eight of the biggest u. S. Banks, jpmorgan and citi and bank of america and some of those guys, there are requirements that you have to rely less on borrowing and more on capital, which is Shareholder Equity in that anything. Toughest armies requirements now apply to the big global banks. A lot of dodd frank really does crackdown on those guys, the guys who are seen as causing the financial rice is. Host next, North Carolina, good morning, republican line. Caller good morning. Thank you for having emily on. The fewis one of excellent news sources i agree with the caller earlier from connecticut talking about bets on driven is. They have to be regulated, but 1999was affected back in at the end of the clinton term. The other one was a caller from North Carolina, talking about reimplementing and i just and i agree. The question for emily, the concept under the act, it is my understanding that when angst default or when they go bankrupt or go under, they now use depositors money to offset their losses, rather than bailout. Are you familiar with that and am i correct . Franks creates so dodd frank creates is whole new system and the reason is the fdic which is sort of the regulator of a lot of banks in the country, has sort of always had the process. The Smaller Banks go in overnight and they sell it off or they restructure it, and they have a process for dealing with Smaller Banks. When we had a crisis, really we realized there was no process for dealing with gigantic global banks or dealing with nonbank Financial Institution like aig there it dodd frank really tries to get at that. What they say is that banks first of all have to write what is called living wills. It is like a banks will. A blueprint for if they were to fail, how they can be guided through bankruptcy. It is also a process that is taken over, which is, orderly liquidation authority, and dodd franky, and what it says is a Creative Process for it a gigantic bank is failing, to go in and seize control and selloff as of it and restructure it and try to find a buyer and all of these ends. Things. One of the things regulators have tried to do is make sure the banks funding structure is set up in a way that if a big wouldere to fail, they still have enough funding to keep operating in a resolution situation parent that is one of the things regulators have worked very hard on. I wanted to go back to one of the things the caller mentioned we have not talked about yet. A lot of democrats who supported this spending bill, youre talking about oversight of derivatives trading, which me me that in the spending bill, there is a rollback of dodd frank and in increase of funding for the commodity commission, and an increase in funding that you mentioned earlier. A lot of democrats and also the white house felt like hitting the funding boosts was something they did not think they would get out of republicans, and it might not be worth throwing back a piece of dodd frank that the regulators said does not make sense. Host moving ahead, our guest has written for writers and the early viewers of wall street commission, and an increase ininsurers. Inure target and victories 2015, especially with republicans in control of the senate. There is this from one of our viewers guest congressman frank is an interesting situation the does he negotiated a compromise to get that provision into dodd frank and a couple of years later, said, when they pushed to rollback the provision, he said he never thought that provision was necessary in dodd frank. He did not think it was a central pillar, etc. Last week, he said he opposed including the provision in the spending bill. The reason was he felt like a totally unrelated spending bill was not a place to be dealing with dodd frank. If you want to have a conversation about changing pieces of dodd frank and making dodd frank cover and weaker, if you want to have that conversation, you should have that debate on the floor. You should not talk it into a completely unrelated spending bill where everyone feels it should pass or they shut down the government there you hear that criticism from a lot of democrats, that it was not the appropriate place to do it. Host lets go to michael in new orleans, independent line. Thanks for waiting. Caller yes, good morning. Someone mentioned this earlier here it and i have heard the question asked before. I have never really got a definitive answer on it. And that is, what is a derivative . Can you hold in your hand or smell it or eat it or break it . What is it . Isnt it just like our entire money system . It is a way for people, the uber rich, to consider the to continue the ponzi scheme, to come up with new ways to make money and put us out there on a limb . Host thank you, we did talk about it earlier and emily did give an answer. Guest i do not know what it would look like in a physical form. A pile of contracts and spreadsheets. A good example is let aig was doing. Slopsrt of credit default were insurance on mortgagebacked securities so that if your loans went bad,. Hen you could still get paid if you bought a certain amount of insurance. Insurance you advice on anything, where if you lose it and it goes bad, and something happens with your vet, you still have a certain side of income. Aig was issuing a lot of these examined mortgages all in that hookce and aig went on the to pay out. That is sort of the classic situation we saw. Julian is louisiana, on the republican line. Just talking about glasssteagall from 1983 1993. Frank, add differential of that room last eagle . Is dodd frank or 2 of the muscle, and the big question would be, if they would not revise glass giggle glasssteagall, with the fallout in 2008 and 2009 have happened . Host thank you for your call. Guest that is a good question. Glasssteagall is something i think about as more of a structural thing, if youre a deposit taking bank and investment bank, you cannot do it in the same institution. Dodd frank is sort of more, it deals with a lot of things. There are structural things that say if youre a a deposit taking bank, you cannot make risky trades with your own money. Are sort of looking out for everyday person kind of hearts of dodd frank, which is what the Consumer Financial Action Bureau is supposed to do. Banksare general, make tougher, you have to have more liquid assets and less debt and those kinds of things thomas so dodd frank deals with a whole lot of different areas of the Financial System. There was sort of an argument after the financial crisis about whether we should just go back to glasssteagall. There are still a lot of people in congress who would be ok with that path. I think you are likely to see some people in the next Congress Bring up that idea, but i think it is pretty likely that dodd frank is sort of the structure we will be working under for the next decade or so. Host jim makes this point guest much better said than i did. Host lets go to frank in indiana, good morning. Guest good morning good morning. I would like to ask how nobody has been held liable or this. Ago,ember a decade or two and if i remember correctly, there were 700 people indicted on criminal charges here and i dont know how many they successfully prosecuted, but nobody is held liable. Clear down to police, shooting people and not being held liable. It is hard to answer the question about why people have gone to jail. Something you hear from the Justice Department and regulators from the banks, a lot of the activity might have been shady and might have been inappropriate, but it might not be illegal. It is sometimes probably hard to figure out who is response for which activity. Hear a lot of answers. I think regulators would have said you do still keep hearing the question from americans and people in congress about why more people have not gone to jail as part of the response to the financial crisis. Host time for one more caller. The morning with Emily Stephenson. Chilean dollar budget including money for derivatives is the definition of stupid, doing the same thing over again it that thing different results. Comparingually been the legend watchdog of brokers and brokerages to ferguson and eric lerner. Eric garner that isan entity supposed to be watching out for investors. The reason we are not hearing or seeing the changes and people going to jailthe reason we are r seeing the changes and people going to jail, is because the sro has been set up by the industry, where people who have sevenfigure losses are getting back pennies on the dollar and these cases are not being heard by the people in the streets because they are forced to sign confidentiality agreements in oner to get back the pennies a dollars, and then these matters are expunged on the backgrounds of the thief. Come to her general port point, has the sec had charges . This issue earlier about the revolving door and wall street and the government, there is a perception that regulators are to post to the institutions they regulate, and that this tendency to hire financial regulators or if or government officials, big banks, reinforces the situation were regulators are to close to the bank. That was definitely a big criticism after the financial crisis. The regulators want to argue theyre getting tough and enforcing dodd frank and being tougher than in a lot of situations, then the globe are global counterparts. The perception that there is a regulatory capture is something dodd frank is supposed to correct and regulators are really aware of trying to work on. Host the sec specifically . Guest i do not cover them, but have broughty charges in some situations related to some situations related to something that happened in the financial is weird i do not know terribly much about it. Host quickly from new jersey, you get the last word. Go ahead. Ok. Er there was an article in Rolling Stone magazine, where a lawyer ,hat worked for Jpmorgan Chase she says jamie diamond paid eric holder 9 billion to stay out of jail. That came out a couple of weeks ago and it might be something people can look up on the internet. But it was Rolling Stone magazine. The lawyers left the u. S. And went to canada. I cannot remember the name of of theyer on the title article, but came out of Rolling Stone magazine. Host thanks for the call. Familiar witht that particular article, but i think he is talking about the massive settlements we have reached with regulators to resolve wrongdoing touring the and in some cases after it. That is one of the things a lot of people have been critical of. They said banks paid out billions of dollars, should they be able to a for their wrongdoing to go away, rather than somebody going to jail . On pressure has increased regulators to make sure these people are held accountable for whatever they are doing. With if you could recap, the new easing of regulations, what are you looking for . What will you be following . Guest the takeaways are that banks and critics of. Frank have won a significant victory. We should not expect dodd frank to go anywhere. I think you should be on the for specific efforts to roll back dodd frank. We might see situations where other piece of dodd frank is changed in the next few years. , her veryy stephenson first appearance on cspan. We hope to see you back again. Thank you for your expertise. We appreciate it. Are keeping an eye on the situation in pakistan. Taliban hostages are dead, over 100 schoolchildren in that attack that took lace earlier this morning in pakistan. Later in the program, we will check in with a reporter on the Washington Post who is also covering this story. Up next, we want to turn your attention to a new project, a film called woodhouse divided. Max stier discussing where to work in public partnership. We are back in a moment. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] [captions Copyright National cable satellite corp. 2014] this week on q a, what she perceives as the hypocrisy of liberals on their war on women rhetoric. What is your problem with ted kennedy . Like i said, the idea of this book came from was the 2012 convention when they were showing a can a tribute video. Per train him as a womans right a young when he left woman to drown in his car, and he had not gone back for nine hours to try to save his own behind. She probably would have survived. You cannot do an entire video at a convention claiming to be preaching and fighting the war on women, and glorify someone might that, while not including that part of his life in a whd kennedy . Video about the womens rights record. Sunday night at 8 00 eastern and this this and pacific. We are airing one program from each year to starting december 22 at 7 00 p. M. Eastern on cspan. Washington journal continues. A moment, we will introduce you to brad and dallas woodhouse. Their new film, woodhouse divided. [applause] i always hope we are divided about it. I dont hope we ever agree on that. Hope we are divided about it. I dont hope we ever agree on that. We will send him a message today. Hands off my health care. Hands off my health care. Thank you. These lies, were going to pass it. If the american will do not like it the momentum has moved toward the president in the past week. There and iss out going to lose. Money offe a lot of of their misguided ideology. That is it, youre just making stuff up. Lisa and i are having our own event because of obamasailing agenda. Obamas failing agenda o bamas failing agenda. Host woodhousedivided. Com is the website. Who introduced you to Brad Woodhouse and dallas woodhouse. What was this film all about . Guest it is interesting. When it started out, i did not know it would be a known. It was supposed to be a short, for youtube. Then brian miller, who directed and shot the film and produced and edited the film, saw a story there about, you know, our political divisions in america. And he did it really based around the healthcare law and the fighting past the Affordable Care act, which my side one. But dallas was fighting in North Carolina, so it had a political element to it, but also an element of, these are the types of divisions that you see in families. Divisions in your state and counties in america. It was kind of a microcosm of the political battles he had seen in washington and around the country. Host what is carolina rising . Guest a nonprofit Political Group i started to sort of help the conservatives and republicans in North Carolina who may come into power and sort of tell their story in North Carolina. The film goes through a lot of the time that iran the north hairline a chapter of americans for prosperity. , it goes through a lot of the time when i did that. I spent the early part of my career as a television reporter. In North Carolina. Moviemaker, brian milker ,yan miller brian miller when i went into the Television News business, we became very good friends. We have children the same age. With him on some projects when i was at americans for prosperity and he came up with this idea. At first, he did not know what he was going to do with it. He ended up following me around the north airline it in washington and over the course of three years, as we fought the healthcare issue, and what is interesting about the movie, it is about an hour and 10 minutes long, it is not really a story of just grabbed and dallas veryouse, who have different clinical ideas. I make my living in North Carolina fighting on the right side of the aisle. Her brother makes his living in washington trying to destroy the country for the left side of the aisle. [laughter] so we are little different. But it is not really the story of our family. I would make the contention that it is the story of our family and the conversations they have around the thanksgiving tables, and the conversations they will have with their extended families and christmas and hanukkah coming up in the next couple of weeks. Talking about the very real discussions family have about dividing politics in our nation. Host we have a clip of what it is like at thanksgiving in your house, but what was it like rowing up . Growing up, we did not take political sides growing up. Our parents guest he was significantly older than me. Were our parents interested in following the news and politics, but they do not force us what to believe. I was older than dallas and went to college, and we were not all that close when we were children. We actually got a lot closer when we got older and he moved in with me. He paid rent for a few years, and that is when we got closer. He left the News Business and went into politics, my mouth hit the floor because i just had no idea that he was going to be a right wing republican wingnut. Guest i do not know about that. I am a product of the reagan resolution revolution. Washington,e up to your brain gets poisoned, as we see constantly by people who, peer. Guest present company excepted, right . Woodhouse, dallas woodhouse. They are brothers. Woodhouse divided. Lets see what your thanksgiving was like a few years ago. Dallas, i see a lot of good pictures of you from your bus tour earlier this year. What smart asked comment are you going to make now . Ass comment are you going to make now . After you lose, we win and we pass it and it gets in law, will you keep your job . Shut up. 85, democrats. 85 against it. You cannot even keep your own stay together. 85. The woodhouse man yell at each other. Men yell at each other. Guest it is funny, you see that clip, and brad was right that they were able to shove the healthcare bill down the throats of the unwilling American People. How has that worked out for you . It has not worked very good for the country. I dont think so. We had the votes in congress, and we passed and the republicans run the senate now, run the house, and that is what our democratic process is. A bitgree with you quite on the success of the healthcare law. On thiser people coming show and predicting that the healthcare law would crash the economy. Eu in the video said that the people would love it. Has that worked out . You believe the American People love it. Guest i believe the people who have gotten it guest [inaudible] there are polls that show people have gotten it, people have signed up and they are receiving health care through the exchanges, they do love it and i will show you these polls. Think of this there is a lightning on the building. Someone is going to get struck. Young ande pretty they have not been bitten by the bug. Important thing to know is we do set the stuff aside. Brad will be in raleigh in a few days for christmas. Intol welcome his children my home and whether he comes or not is an open question. And you come in near family members say, oh god, they are here and add it again . Guest we have a very boisterous family. Whether it is about politics or about some discussion of athletics or sports, we are going to have a boisterous conversation. Fan ofis not a big having arguments about politics. It is not just us. My wife is the chief of staff to a republican member of congress. I they gang up on me when they have the opportunity. Guest at least i do not have to sleep with her. That is a good thing. But no, i think, what i hope people get out of the movie, and it is free, you can watch it , is that, look, i believe in political division. I think it is good. We have had an election here recently. Brad did not talk to me after that. It did not go his way. We smacked him around in North Carolina. Eat his candidate. Beat is a good thing his candidate. Which is a good thing. We fund the government, getting something done in this lame duck session i expect needs to get done. Other things, we disagree on. We need we need political division. That is ok. You are right. You did not agree with the president. We can disagree without being disagreeable. Having the economy humming, how i having unemployment below host how did that work out . Host i am also concerned guest i am also concerned the country out of recession, got a below 6 which your party left out of control, is below 3 of gdp, 11 when bush was in office, look. We can argue about why the midterms turned out the way they did. The republicans ran on nothing. Guest what did democrats run on . What did your candidates run on . What did your candidates run on, brad . Ran on hatred of the president. You saw this. A press conference in kentucky. Youre the majority, what are you going to do . We are going to restore regular order. That was his agenda. Not say anything about jobs or health care, fixing it, doing something different. He said were going to restore regular order. You are in not say anything abot jobs or health care, fixing chal hill and your party will have to have an agenda. Host Brad Woodhouse and dallas woodhouse. Yes, they are brothers, and they are polar opposites. We will get to your calls. Joining us from new jersey, good morning. Caller good morning. Gentlemen, you need to stop what dallas,oing and you, you represent a part of the republicanhost party, a frencht is so loud mouth, that what you people who make sense. Right now, what you have to do to get to the people, they start they have awakened the ed host do you want to respond . Guest look, i was on the forefront of the tea party movement. The modernday Republican Party, i think it is a movement out of love, love for country. It really started overspending and health care. We have fought about since the beginning of our republic. Much. Isis something our it something we will fight over, so long after brad and i are ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Guest is something we will fight over, tt protesting when president bush was expanding medicare. Guest a lot of people process and over that. Guest when he spent trillions of dollars on a war in iraq he started under false the tenses look. Guest [indiscernible] the tea party was a creation of the insurance company, [indiscernible] guest timeout. Timeout. Guest that is crazy. Why do you insult guest i am not insulting him. Is, theirsaying history is not spontaneous. Spontaneously, when people start casey showed up in raleigh, to get on bus and go to washington dc. He set up invitations and paid people. Ll types of people i am not saying they did not believe what they are protesting, but suggested some Popular Uprising that had nothing to do with what the it depends on the question. U. S. To go to sign up and they overwhelmingly supported it. Were just going to get people to sign up and be more more popular. That is the attitude of the Obama Administration and democrats and we have seen how that works output it. Host lets go to joy in North Carolina. You are right, i am from down south, and im your mother. I disagree that all families are like ours. I dont know many families that are fighting at thanksgiving. Glad that this thanksgiving was the year you two were supposed to go to your inlaws, and i am hoping you will have some of this out of your system when you come here for christmas. I would really like a peaceful christmas. I love you both. This was not planned. She called in on a normal line. But did but since you did call him, what was it like to raise the two voice . Boys . easy. it has not been and i love politics. Their dad and i both love politics and we follow the entire country. I know that we have to take responsibility for them. Theyre both very passionate about what they believe in, and i love that about them. But i hope they get this out of this is in today on the program. Host are you a democrat or republican . I am a registered democrat, many years ago. But i have at times but my ticket. I am concerned for the party that will expand medicaid. I have an autistic grandson who sol expand health care, those are, i guess i am more of a one issue person right now my life. I have such concern for my autistic grandson. Host we are glad to hear from you. James from fort worth, texas. Democrats line. Caller good morning, gentlemen. Good morning, cspan. Dallas, hope you let me speak without rudely interrupting like you do with your brother. The Republican Party spent the last 40 years converting the american middleclass income into executive compensation and investor payouts. Currently exists with two factions. In stateather was politics for a long time and i grew up and attended the 1951 Republican National convention. I Pay Attention to it. , theere is the thing Republican Party currently is composed of wall street sorry, butand i am the tea party is a reaction to white backlash reaction to the election of our first black resident. It started with him with signs with bones in his nose. Guest i think those comments are undignified and what i will the biggest negative gottion the president has is on the healthcare law and so has the president. Host the house divided on the Affordable Care act . Dallas, i see a lot of good pictures of you from your bus tour earlier this year. Comment aret ass you going to make now . All, after you lose, we win and we pass it and it gets signed into law, do you get to keep your job . We should point out that was the same clip we just pointed out moments ago. Lets go to greensburg, North Carolina. Good morning. Caller good morning. Thank you for the opportunity. I do not know any republicans so this will give me a good opportunity. I have always wanted to ask, what is it in a prisons mind or in their heart that makes them begrudge another human being having access to health care . Dont think anybody begrudge is somebody having access to health care. What i will say is there are medicaidhat people on do not ask necessarily Access Health care. In some cases, they access are and what i would say, we have taken a situation here with the healthcare law and in a lot of cases, the vast majority of people were happy with what they had and we made their situation worse. I got a get in here. All questions to from callers have been to you. That is factually not true. Absolutely, were getting the savings. Medicare inflation has gone down. The premiums for most americans have gone down. Seniors have access guest keep their plans . Guest yes. Guest oh come on. Guest one of the biggest lies was always cancellations, some people lost people loss plans, but they got better plan. Host let me jump in. Well come back to this. Heres more from the film. [video clip] we are here to represent you represent yourself every member of the United States of the senate this bill we want killed. When i stand up in front of a big crowd, it is exciting. You have a lot of people to you you can star for a rock minute. Thank you for coming today. Were going to send a message today hands off my health care. Hes a rabblerouser. He inflames peoples passions. Hes just on the wrong side of the issue. Those tea partiers really got all those people they talking about . That is harry reid right . Woodhouse the film divided. Guest what you thought was pure unadulterated politics. The republican governor of massachusetts passed a healthcare law almost identical to what the president passed. There were republicans in the that and the senate other healthcare laws, then, a democrat got elected and proposed Health Care Law. He said lets take the health exists ce system as it in the build on it, expanded, but keep it in the private market. And republicans they can lead a democratic president went on an issue. Guest i will stand with my brother buddy, a senator who says that the democrats made a big mistake. To another go carolina. Om north caller lets talk about carolina rising. They did away with the earned income tax credit. The only people in North Carolina rising are the wealthy. Guest thank you to the caller . Caller on correct the a couple of facts. Over the past couple of years, number of tax a reform. To pay everyones taxes them. We started four years ago when tax for anybody who goes and buys anything, we the sales tax. We cut the iincome tax for everybody. The reality is, you cannot cut taxes for people who do not pay them. Nature of then, we did a major tax reform. People for years have talked tax reform it was hilarious to me in the last election that we had were kay to talk d the nerve reform, her opponent had passed one of the tax or form. E of a lower the tax rate for everybody. Guest he did. He provided a huge tax windfall to the wealthiest in North Carolina. Went after medicaid very similar to what republicans guest thats a lie. Guest let me say this bunch of issues in an election in North Carolina for be the laws that wont same when governor mccoury is up. The governor is one of the least popular governors. Guest he is in fine shape. Truth of this one second is so ax reform the rate , you lower North Carolina republicans, did it ng the governor anyway. It was a tough road, and it will be rewarded for. Host will you ever run for Political Office . Guest i dont believe so. If you does, i will run his campaign. Chance. Not a host republican line. Are you with us . On to vermont. On ler i want to comment dallass attitude, it seems typical of republicans. Brad was saying, tthat the republicans will not vote for their own ideas because they do not want democrats taking credit for it. Guest brad has appointed some of the Health Care Law had looked at the individual mandate. You think the entire Republican Party has to accept it . I dont think so. You made him the nominee passed the nt, he bill. Guest yyou have to remember the president did not even run on his own bill. Guest when you get to washington, you have been congress to deal with. Guest are you saying the president is only for an individual mandate . Guest im not saying you are only against the Health Care Bill because the democrats propose that. That bill, at the time, you were against it because the democrats propose that. That bill couldve been introduced by republicans. The truth is, republicans do not want to reform healthcare, they want to take it back to where it was when Insurance Companies called all the shots. Not against the Health Care Bill, im free market. Im not a republican, maybe i am e voted republican, but i free market. Film is called woodhouse divided. Good morning. Guest good morning. Qualify my e to i have n, i am a vegan, veterans benefits. You come from, and the southern states, lead the all the negatives in healthcare, finance, and others. Is very easy, it appeals to a majority white crowd which is going extinct. Guest i am certainly not antigovernment. Thank you for your service. We commend, especially this holiday season, all the members of the military who have given so much for us. It is a shame that the present United States has not stood up law and order. Guest that is one of the most irresponsible comments ive ever make to say this president has not stood up for Law Enforcement or for troops. Guest i said guest what youre saying is completely undignified. Guest has he stood up and said that people should be responsible . Bbut anyways, the caller guest you want to talk about party protests gunshots get me dont even started. Guest i just want to say, the am not to the caller i antigovernment. A strong have military. Making people pay for people to show up at the emergency room is also not the way to do it, dallas. Your putting the gun to taxpayers had either way. Is so is the free market good then how come the Healthcare Industry is going to make people . Guest we did not have a free market system. You were not able to buy healthcare across state lines. We were not able to have True Health Care savings accounts. We could have had a more free market system, and i continue to support that. Host lets go to the next caller from georgia. In northern ive georgia, 6 miles from from north 12 miles carolina. To my three children were born in North Carolina. Guest youre in gods country out there . Caller yes. Ive lived in North Carolina. What i wanted to say, the in son republicans whine this area is because of fox news. No one has said that. News has evidently use subliminal advertising. So ave friends that are brainwashed, tthey used to be intelligent people. But, the reason people vote fox blican is because of foxnews says that the democrats will take away their guns. People in this area want to go out and hunt. In st in our senate race North Carolina and i think states bates in other were undignified but, in a rth carolina, we had substantive debate on education funding, other issues. A serious debate. Good for state. Host this tweet, poor brad, he to t really love his brother keep from reaching across the table and slapping him. Guest i would not do that. Do love dallas dearly. Host but this is how you interact when you talk politics . Guest yes. Host lets go back to the film. Available online at woodhousedivided. Com. [video clip] has ou know the momentum moved forward in the past week. People see this leadership on display. Ive always tried to take an interest in his personal career. Somebody out there will do what he does, so he might as well do it and make a lot of money off of it. Is, the democrats have been very good to him. Host from the film, we will go to dallas woodhouse. Of my brother. Oud the easter o to bunny role at the white house. He gets to have cocktails with joe biden. Hes been on air force one. I am proud of him. I disagree with his ideology, but hes done it great deal. Theres a picture of him with president obama and my mothers house. Was in one person obama raleigh, president obama commented on how good my brother was in the dnc. Whatever your ideology, that means a lot to your family. And you know, i disagree with president s politics i think hes a good man, but i disagree with his politics. Of the hope you get out can disagree you vehemently, and we do, but then we get together and go out and play football with the kids. We have a lot of conversations on one phone, we hang up another, but that we pick it up and call again. About these to talk things. That is up one thing about is we had extended family that say do not talk about this, do not about that but why . Guest i do not know what we would talk about if we didnt talk about and look, the whole family to some extent or the ked in politics government. Our parents started out in in the tic politics back late 1950s. Had their wedding reception in the Governors Mansion in North Carolina. Its to say, it is in our blood. Think it reflects what some other families go through, but it is an extreme case. Melissa from o to raleigh, North Carolina. Caller maybe i should confess that i worked in the same retired as fore i dallas. Guest melissa, how are you . Caller i watched when she did. Hes getting a bad rap here. He never paid anyone to go to washington. I was one of those people that read that Health Care Bill, and was s really sad about what in it. I said at the time to dallas, nobody who voted for that would understand it. That e do not understand it is in the first 30 pages it says that according to this blog, and this regulation there is not one democrat who voted for it that understood what they were reading. Guest i do not believe that is true. I think that principles of healthcare reform are fairly simple. We went to get rid of discrimination on preexisting conditions. We expanded the ability for people to get Health Insurance by eliminating gender discrimination. I do not think it is a complicated. No matter what politics are a divided country if anything the president does gets above 50 , i would be surprised. The Health Care Law is working. There is not any dispute, it is down cost we had 10 million more people to have Health Insurance now. What do you want . Dallas is right about one a radical a radical conservative, radical republican. The traditional republican view so be it. You can live on the street. Guest i have never said that. Guest every insurance policy in the world, in this country, is regulated. They regulate auto insurance. Should be regulated in a way that lowers cost . My god, what a horrible thing. Host at what point do the work of brian miller become a film . Guest im not sure. They may have decided from the a little , i was blindsided. People were attending strategy meetings, and making web videos. Dallas was leaving these boisterous rallies on capitol hill . Just kept coming. I thought, my god, again . Then finally i realized, this is not going to be a 10 minute for you to, it will be a documentary. I want to say about brian, he he t the entire thing, edited it, he asked the questions. I think there are very few things of this quality that have been done by one person. None of it eally to its important understand, we never set out to make a movie. This is what we did. Me, raising my kids. Meaning, having to deal with brother at thanksgiving. And the camera picked it up. Host i would ask you to reverse roles and be very serious. What advice would you give the democrats moving ahead in the next congress . Guest obviously i would change some phases. It is hard for me to believe keep some faces like harry reid, nancy pelosi the same. Way to ed to find a present some credible ideas on work conomy that they can with the republicans on. Have to the republicans show, and present some things that they can send to the president. My side is very as large of anything comprehensive immigration, reform, nsive tax anything comprehensive. It depends on several things to happen, and we do not believe that the government can do big things. You have to send one bill at a time, one part at a time. Thats what the republicans do, and the democrats should join them. Host lets go to our last call. Caller good morning. I just have a couple comments. Brad has been tight mahogany obama care is, and how is working so well. Why has so great, obama delayed the mandate for the last couple of years . Just do it. You my second comment is, remember Nancy Pelosis comment, we have in order to bill know what is in the bill. Say this the present and hhs has the authority to implement the law. Look, you saw last year, there was some real problems with the website. They fixed those. This is what dallas would tell you, it is a big law. The implementation has been good, the mandate will come in. I think the law will continue to strengthen. You can look, people are burning up the phone lines to enroll. I would give ice to republicans is satisfied their hatred for the president. They get 70 of the vote, they are drawn to the very extremely , conservative this hatred for the present is what the leaders and of having to deal with. This with u will see mcconnell, finding some accommodation where they can with the president , then they get pulled back by the caucus. Grow a pair, and of being pulled by your caucus by these elements that are completely to your president. The president has repeatedly was trying to make a big dealing with debt, walked away from because there were so many people in the caucus that have sheer hatred for the present. They say, you cannot compromise with the president. You cannot govern that way. Host final question for you, of your did you get out system . Guest you can never get this of your system. I hope people watch the film. Its a great film to watch in the holiday season. Guest we will have these discussions around the dinner table. Guest we will have these questions in the rest home while we are looking for tea, nurse, help me. Host to brad and dallas woodhouse, thank you for being with us. Up, max stier will from new s, joining us york. A news update from the cspan radio. The Washington Post writes of the hat the share federal rresource under the age 7 this year. Because of what the wave of aby boom retirements, members of the white house is becoming distressed about the role of young workers. Dean ays after howard endorsed hillary clinton, another endorsement is coming from senator al franken. An interview, frankincense that he thinks hillary will great president ppeople asked me about elizabeth warren, she is great, is not running. The New York Times says that one could win, her chances are rising. Tweets this hill hour, 110,000 people have for president nt edition. Ator warns that she is not warren says she running. A poll is traditionally held before a president ial caucus, it is said that it could the kickoff caucus. It has grown from county gop stopped to a large event. Those are some of the latest headlines on cspan radio. This month is the 10th sunday sary of our primetime program, q a. Q a at 7 pm eastern, december 22 through the 26th. Host joining us from new york is max stier, as we look at the the places to work in federal government. Were dividing our phone lines a bit different for this hour. If you are a federal government iif oyee, please call are anyone else, call us the most . Rprised guest over 43 of the organization that we measured, actually sought increased. Average is down, but 43 are up. It is fascinating because it demonstrates that good make a hip can difference. Host among the best, nasa. Worst, department of defense. Makes one department the best, and another the worst . Guest its about leadership. Where you have very strong you mentioned nasa, use the agencies that thrive. Unfortunately the leadership is not focused on trying to make the organization warned effective, and you see problems. Thats the general story almost everywhere. Host when you look at privatesector employment, in the gray area, a much higher figure of satisfaction. What is most significant is how the numbers have declined in the last three or four years in the government sector. Guest right. We went through a very challenging economic times. What you see in this charge, by to see if you want more, go to placestowork. Org. What you see now, the private sector has bounced back, the federal government has not. Now you have four years in a row of declining morality in the federal workforce. It is not a happy employee, it is about whether employees are actually engaged in the work that they are doing. We want that. Theres no question, more means better yees outcomes. This is very important. Host as we looked at the list, as we said, nasa is number one on the list. Department of the commerce. Number three is the department of state. Intelligence s the committee who has been facing a lot of criticism over past few weeks. Guest yes. Of the matter, as you said, the Intelligence Community is the collection of 17 different agencies, they are of great things. Especially on intel side, cannot talk they about. Reality of the workforce, they are there because they want to achieve the mission. If they want to achieve the mission, they will be engaged. Good leadership leads to employees who feel empowered to do what theyre there for the United States, provide a Public Benefit to all of us. The new stories are meaningful, the whole story. Host at the bottom of the list, the department of the army, followed by a veteran affairs, and homeland security. Lets get to the phone calls. Am a former employee. I assisted many veterans getting positions within the federal service. One thing i find is a lacking in the government process is as a ts y can come in 45 and worked their way to eight or nine. I understand that to be in nine, you have to have a masters. The other thing is, if you people lower, and a way of working their way into service, they have a better understanding. It is interesting, and an important point raised here. The federal government has a very strong interest in hiring veterans. Last year, almost 47 of all new hires were veterans. I think it cross the whole third rce, it is about who are veterans. Need both talent from inside, as well as talent injected from the outside. We will know, today, the ran an article on millennials in the federal government. An area of where the federal government is behind the curve. Only 7 of the workforce is age of 30, thats about a quarter in the private labor source. Having a problem, not generational diversity. This is an area that is important for people to focus on. 85 of the workforce is outside they are doing everything. Host eearlier this year, the president requesting a very small pay increase. Keep in mind, federal employees a pay freeze. Ing is a 1 pay ct, it increase. As you said, there have been several years of a pay freeze. This has really reduce the ability for federal employees to do their job, do what they want to do. It is a very hard climate for the federal workforce, and for the government generally. That is not a good thing. The government is the primary for collective action. We need to take better care of it. Were not doing such a good job. What these numbers demonstrate. Were not taking care of the government or the workforce to create a future that we want. Host our guest is that veteran of capitol hill. Now here is the president of the partnership for public service. Richard on the line. What do you do . Caller i used to work for the veteran hospital in albany, new york. The federal employees, especially at the va hospital, who had been getting a bad rep, we worked hard. If anything, those who should be insulted are those in the post office. What congress did to them many years ago has affected the postal employees more than anyone else. Guest thank you for your service. 33 years is something you very proud of. It is important to note that hundreds of terally serving s of employees the veterans in a very important and meaningful way. A very large organization, there are many things that need to be fixed, but theyre very important the same ppening at time. Im a parent to children, and i know positive reinforcement is much more effective than negative. But the truth is, we mostly only hear the negative about the federal government. But, if we want the federal government to do better job, the better way to get there is to find what is being done right and build on those. Host how is the study completed . Guest we encourage the passing of a law that required every federal agency to conduct a survey. They collect all this information, which we are then to put together the survey. You have close to 400,000 federal employees were responding to it. A number of agencies participate, even if they are to do so, for example the Intelligence Community. That this because we know employee engagement, satisfaction, and commitment, is the best metric we have today to understand the health of our government. The numbers are not encouraging. And now that more engaged, more committed and satisfied employees means employees who are giving their discretionary energy to get the job done. Their jobs are everything that our government does. Including, helping our veterans, or protecting us from terrorist attacks, or ensuring our our food is safe, water clean. These are important jobs. We need to invest in making sure that we have the right the right skills, and the right leadership, to do want to do. Us from tennessee caller i was lucky to get a job with the federal government after coming out of the service. I work for the Tennessee Valley authority. I was wondering if this study looked at the leadership or the Job Satisfaction there. Several the managers are making million per year. The agency is now making 5 to 6,000,000 per year as federal employees. I was wondering how that affects overall satisfaction. Guest interesting question. Sure that tva is within our rankings, and you can go to the website and track it down. Where ot recall exactly tva is. I will say, what you describe is very unusual. Federal government, most, even those who run billiondollar, very large of the government, are out at 170,000. People at the senior level would make much more money if they want the private sector. Base to sustain the government because they care about the mission. The federal government provides a chance to make a difference. Federal Government Employees motivated by ot pay. You can see that in the data we have. Leadership correlates to two thirds of satisfaction. Pay is a factor, around 10 . If we had the workforce that we is failing it. Em host you can read the report online. Joining us. Er caller i am an employee from the department of agriculture. The reason i i just wanted that i felt like i was employed as a farmer. Guest how long did you work for the Ad Department . When did you retire . Caller 1980. I am 90 years old. Guest congratulations. Caller the highest award i thought, the department of to iculture was going transfer me, for all the position they got in together to keep me, and raise my salary. If i look back, it was a very rewarding time. I was invited back to two or three years ago to the district, and they treated me very well. It sounds like im bragging, but it was a very nice that i had, working with the farmers. Guest don, you deserve to brag. That is a wonderful story. There are all kinds of Success Department of agriculture. Premier agriculture in the world. The department of agriculture has played a large role in making that happen helping farmers. You are right, people in government are Civil Servants, they serve the public. That is what they should be doing. The norm are people like don. In any large organization, you will get some people who are not doing what theyre doing right. The we are blessed in federal government, with people doing extraordinary things. Invest in that. Host yet there is this people like deb thing we should reduce the size of the government. Guest there is a legitimate conversation about the size of the government. We will all believe that the government should be doing something, whether it is national security, whatever it may be. Our position is that we want to make sure they are doing it right. Focusing on the absolute number of jobs, or people, that is not the right metric. It is interesting, we have the smallest government, or the same size government as it in the 1960s. As a percentage of the workforce, it is much smaller it was then. Headcount is not the way we want to measure the effectiveness of the federal government. We want to look at what were getting from the government. We should focus on policies that help us get more from the government. Were not doing that right now. Focusing on the wrong one of headcount is those things. We should have a separate conversation about what the government should be doing should do t is, we right. On the phone from maryland. Caller i retired from Social Security on may 31 this year. I worked there for 20 years. The first 15 years, it was the best job i ever had. I was a computer programmer. What we did was verified were put out, that they worked. Last five years, between sequestration and so much new technology, people would retire, and they would not be replaced or they would only be replaced by contractors. To work e so stressful there, there was too much for us to do. Host lois, how long were you employed . Caller 20 years. The area i worked in, we did testing to make sure that all applications would work. In an e way from putting application to applying for disability, different decisions. Tested those applications from beginning to end, which is that goes everything out, goes out right. Guest so, loiss story the broader data. We have seen, in the last four years, a drop in Worker Satisfaction and commitment. What we know, when you have lower employee engagement, you have employee attrition. Good people leave, and that is a real problem. We need to be concerned about are shown here. T they indicate a government that the right trajectory. Government that being less healthy rather than more. I mentioned o know, earlier, the entity that puts with gether, we work deloit, who has been a terrific partner. Caller good morning. Im from the private sector, in a small company. Have worked with government regulating our businesses. I have is i gotten more difficult to get action done on from the ooperation government. I think that is a political matter. Secondly, i was wondering, what best of private sector Leadership Practices have you been able to transfer over to the government . Uunfortunately, the government operates on the government. There able to operate more like a private company. Host thank you. Guest a lot of good things were said there. Number one, it is understanding the political world has on the y a large impact government, and recently negatively so congress is an important actor in the health of our government. Most people would not say government worker when they talk about congress. But, the failure to have of the , the shutdown government, lots of poor for ces make it very hard the career Civil Servants to do their jobs. That is easily one of the biggest impediments to having the government that we want. That i heard pect about private sector practices. Frankly, like anywhere, you get good organizations and not that organizations. Number one is focusing on employee engagement. Pay attention to what employees have to say about their work environment, and the workplace. They know that there is a strong connection between whether employees are engaged, and whether theyre getting good outcomes. One aspect is being very focused on this. The way to get there is investing in the workforce. Many leaders and government see the workforce as a cost rather than an asset. They do not invest in them. Too many layers between the front line and senior leadership. One reason that this is the the federal environment, you have a very large of political appointees, 4000 of them, wwho come not or shortterm, they are incentivized to invest in the longterm. A big problem. There are definitely things to be learned from the private sector. Operating the federal government is not exactly the same thing you cannot translate everything over, but we undoubtedly need more sharing of best practices. Caller from west virginia. Caller i worked for the federal government for 31 years. I retired in 2011. Just sitting at home, listening the left argue d and federal employees their jobs, i think it is sad take into do not consideration that these are people who have bills and families to take care of. Enjoyed that was the best job i ever had. You for cspan. I think that end, it was very powerful. Most people who i know who were to the federal government think that that was the best job. I agree, that debate over the is entirely rnment legitimate, but we cannot the federal workforce in the middle of it. This is our workforce, we pay the salaries. We have to make it stronger. You do not make it stronger by only criticizing it. Lets find the successes that can be the answers to the problems. Lets do the right thing to actually fix those problems. Anybody, no underwear on the political spectrum they are, will benefit. From max stier joining us new york. Thank you very much for being with us. Guest thank you for this conversation. Host before we leave, we want very latest on what is going on in pakistan. This is the latest from the Washington Post. Joining us on the phone is tim gray. What is the latest . Hours, after about six the siege at an Army High School in northwest pakistan appeared to be over. About 10 am local time here. About 6 to 8 taliban militants into the school, heavily armed, with suicide that. Indiscriminately they started shooting students and teachers. As the day unfolded, the death toll rose. It is now up to 134 teachers and students killed. Say the carnage struck at the heart of the taliban military. Guest this was a High School Honor Pakistan Military base. The Pakistan Military is revered in this country. They have their own schools. The schools open to military families, as well as other students as well. The fact that the militants were able to penetrate into such a school, shows their brutality. Soldiers and Army Officers presumably lost children today in this attack. In many ways, this is sort of pakistans version of 9 11. Walk around today, people are crying. They were shocked. This is a country that is pretty used to terrorist attacks. There is a bloody history of the past decade, but nothing as this level. Host the pakistan winner of the Nobel Peace Prize says that she is heartbroken by this attack. Why young people . Guest thats the question everyone will be asking. In large part, children have been offlimits. Heard about broad attacks against students and children. This shows that the militants are up against the wall. They are searching for easier targets. The thinking is, they are now more desperate. Theyre lashing out in any way most they can against the innocent victims. Host what is motivating them . The Pakistan Taliban carry this out. Bayer group of Islamic Militants that forms in the aftermath of 9 11