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Day, howion for the enthusiastic are you about voting . 202 5853880. Republicans 202 5853881. Independents 202 5853882. And if youre outside the u. S. , 202 6280184. A very good sunday morning to you. Headlines in the pages today isut voter enthusiasm, here New York Times. The papers in minnesota, the star tribune the mood of voters , chile and uncertain. Gap gives the gop midterm momentum and this story from the wall street journal. Overstate voter enthusiasm, we want to bring in the reporter who wrote that story to talk about the issue of voter enthusiasm. You, heading into tuesday, which group of voters are more enthusiastic . If you look at people who are more enthusiastic come a these are people like men over the age of 50, tea Party Supporters, Senior Citizens across the board. That is particularly interesting because these are groups that skew republican. Excited republicans are or giddy over the fact that they have an enthusiasm advantage. Host is it a clear sign of victory . Guest that is the issue, for years pollsters thought the most reliable indicator was voter enthusiasm during it was considered a proxy for whether your guys would vote. In the wake of the 2012 elections, pollsters are starting to think how reliable a measure that is. It turns out you dont want to overstate it. Host why not . Thedo you interest uninterested to make up for the gap . When pollsters measure voter enthusiasm they ask questions like, how interested are you in voting and for some people the answer may be, not that interested, but because i already made up my mind a month ago. Interested, 5050 and then you dont show up enthusiastic. Host are democrats relying on those voters on tuesday . Guest the interesting thing is people who say i am lukewarm tend to skew more democratic, but people like Younger Voters and hispanics for example. A midtermwe had election in 2010, groups like hispanics and young people showed up as not that interested, but what happened was the electorate ended up expanding, not contracting. More hispanic people voted, more latino people voted than was expected. That is the hope for democrats, people who are not that enthusiastic might turn out and democrats are putting a lot of energy in getting those people to vote. Host i want you to comment on the key quote from your piece in the the wall street journal. I learned unenthusiastic voters count as much as enthusiastic once. Guest that is probably from mitt romneys pollster in two dozen 12, that was one of the things he learned. Back then a lot of republicans thought mitt romney would win, you may remember karl rove getting very excited on Election Night saying president obama can not have one and they learned the hard way. You didnt have to be super enthusiastic to sign the ballot form. In the october 30 edition the wall street journal of. Thank you for joining us. Guest thank you. Host were talking about enthusiasm this morning. How enthusiastic are you about voting on tuesday echo tuesday . More polls and the recent numbers, four in 10 voters say they are more enthusiastic about voting this year compared to past elections, 47 say they are less enthusiastic. Are moren voters likely than democrat voters to say they are more enthusiastic. We are getting your thoughts. We will start with ruben calling in from texas on the line for democrats. Anything the republicans are doing, they sit around and dont do anything and blame it on the president. Are enthusiastic to vote against republicans . Caller you bet. Host see are not going to vote for a democratic candidate but to vote against a republican . Caller that is one of the reasons im going out, a few i would like to vote for but the main thing is to vote against republicans. Host how does your level of enthusiasm compared to 2010 . Caller i believe i am more motivated now than i was then. Host mike is in sun city, california for republicans. How does your level of enthusiasm this time around compared to the last midterm . Caller over the moon, i will vote against liberalism which is a democratic hardy. Aregovernment liberals killing this country and i dont see how anyone can fathom voting for the democrats, especially with the Media Service toward the left. It is pathetic. Is the poignant democrats continue to say they are the party of the middle class, but their whole onlosophy is predicated bigger government, more bureaucrats and higher taxes. How does that help the middle class or anybody else . I would think that is what america is running from. This is a nobrainer. Caller you said you are over the moon compared to last time, why so much more enthusiasm . Host because i think caller because i think we are losing our country. Havelite liberal media been running the show the last six years and i think we are losing our country and judeochristian values are under assault him a runaway spending, Big Government liberalism, look at obamacare. Take aamacare did is choice away from the American People. They were picking their own plans that they were comfortable with and took that away from democrats withal that republican vote and gave that to the government to make that decision for them. On twitter, i am not excited to vote i feel both parties are corrupt and i will be voting for libertarians where available. The line for independents, eric is in cedartown, georgia. How enthusiastic are you about voting . Caller im not that enthusiastic about voting because they are blue. Democrat and i am a progressive. When these people get an office they really dont do nothing but carry out conservative values, you cannot tell the difference in georgia between a republican or democrat. Im running away from my president which i love and doing a good job, they should be talking about issues. Office, they do nothing to help us. The judicial system, medicaid expansion, georges population is 30 africanamerican so you have democrats in georgia, they should be talking about white voters not voting democrat because they say georgia is an africanamerican community, people are talking about the hispanic vote but two thirds of the spanish in the United States, there in texas and california. It is not that much they help in getting people elected. State soa red basically the hispanics are crying but they dont vote. Host that is eric in georgia. The 10 keyne of races of the 2014 cycle. Listingington post those races on the handy map here. Colorado,e races are kansas, iowa, kentucky, louisiana, georgia, and North Carolina upon which control of the senate will be decided this week. Lets go to gloria from chicago illinois. Caller good morning. I am a democrat and i voted early and i love what our president is doing for the country, it is a shame he has not had help from the republicans. I would like to know what policies have the republicans put forth. I just want to know that question, if anyone can answer that for me. , i think enthusiastic the democrats will hold the senate. Been president bashing through the media and i dont understand how that could happen when the republicans in congress havent done anything. They flipped the script and put the blame on the president but they havent done anything. We will be talking about the battle for control of the senate breaking down some of the individual races in our next segment of the washington journal. Will be talking with the politics editor of usa today and one of the political correspondence on capitol hill which tracks those races around the country. That is coming up at 7 45. If you have not set your clocks back this morning you can do so, right now as you join us on , we washington journal talking about voter enthusiasm. On our facebook page, linda writes in, not one bit more enthusiastic about voting, just more lies and innuendo. Writes, weob allen cannot get those obstructionists out fast enough after four wasted years they get paid well to not do their job. Follow that conversation on cspan. K. Com we want to hear your phone calls this morning. Frederick on our life for republicans. Enthusiasticvery about voting because i think we will finally be rid of the Obama Administration and their attitude toward hispanics, toward blacks and women. The war on women is a fallacy. All of a sudden their winning all these races and have ads and all the seven states with they say republicans are racist, here is the problem i am a black republican and right now in midland, texas with 3 unemployment and that is because of the oil pool and the cost of fracking, gas is going down all over the country because of fracking and it will put billions of dollars into the economy. But i hear africanamericans from georgia and illinois saying the president is doing a good job, private industry is going to save this country, not a government. We have to get rid of this administration, they have no respect for the American People and they think we are all a bunch of idiots and they can throw slogans at us and we will fall for it. Ive time for a change and been so disappointed in president obama because he talks like a moderate but he is just a liberal. Host in that republicans weekly radio address, Senate Minority leader Mitch Mcconnell joined the show to talk about what electing a majority in the terms ofuld mean in ending gridlock in washington, here is what he had to say. It is time for the president to start doing the job he was elected to do, he should worry less about and worry more about healing our country and if the Republican People decide to sent a republican majority to congress we can help ensure that he does. A new republican majority would not mean we could get everything you want from washington, but it would mean we would be able to bring the current gridlock to a merciful end. A will toe will be start sending bills to the president s desk again as the American People expect. Under a new majority our focus would be on passing legislation that improves the economy, that makes it easier for americans to find jobs and helps restore americans confidence in their country and government. Ease the squeeze on working families and improve economic opportunity. We want to make it easier for families to join the middle class and we want to increase Career Prospects for college graduates. A new republican majority would those kindsensuring of policy star getting a vote and set of succumbing to the gridlock. Host Senate Minority leader ofch mcconnell, the talk midterm elections continues on the sunday political talk shows and will feature several members of congress and key leaders of both parties appearing on abcs , you can see the two hillem there on the preview. Also, senator rand paul, one of the most soughtafter sarah gets according to the hill will appear on nbcs the press and other shows. A democrat from minnesota will also appear on cbs. On fox news sunday, mitt romney will join that show. That is coming up later this morning. Get your calls and we are asking you how enthusiastic you are about voting. Caller my enthusiasm is at zero, i had Great Expectations for the administration and i have becomens secondclass citizens in this new world and i feel the American People have become lost in the fray. I decided not to vote for the first time in my life but after the last few days of listening i decided rather than not vote at all i will unfortunately vote republican, because not to vote at all is a vote for the current administration. Host what change in the last few days . Because we finally got to election day or was there a specific debate you heard or add that you saw . Host caller listening to programs like this and other people talk , we would alln come to the same conclusion that there is no one to vote for therefore we will not vote and when it came down to it i thought, the situation when we had perot running, the people had faith in him and in that way someone else got elected that we would not have wanted. In on twitter about the voting, it should be mandatory with a 125 fine if you do not vote. Host kathy how are you echo how are you . Caller im working for the Democratic Party for one particular candidate so i have been going every sunday and i went out sunday this morning. We are targeting potential democratic voters and what i found yesterday, three houses on this block were homeless shelters which i did not know and i dont think the party knew. One of the women i talked to, and iregistered to vote think because the ability to secure transportation, time, etc. Keep people from going to the polls. She said her children feel there is no hope and their vote doesnt count. Then i would walk up another street which is a Residential Home next to a treatment center. They werent on the list but i blackp because i saw a man sitting on the porch and i gave him the information and asked if he was voting and he said no. The dont understand, information has not been provided, because there on promotion ovation, does not mean they cannot vote. We do not reach out to everybody and that is part of the Democratic Partys problem. They are not engaging the people they say they care so much about. Host is it because there is more time and effort spent on campaign ads than trying to engage with people and talk to them oneonone gecko oneonone . Host caller i dont have televisions i havent seen any of that but i think you have to get out and meet them oneonone , all the young people came to the headquarters, here in petoskey it is all people my age, but i dont care what party it is you dont want to disenfranchise anyone. That is not what this country is about. You work in this field, you might interested, later to the show at 8 45 est, talking about getting out the vote in the digital age and how that works with two Political Consultants who specialize in that. Lets go to, kevin from massachusetts on the line for republicans. I am very enthusiastic inc. Resident of massachusetts, and oneparty state, democratic, getting republicans and some of the senate seats, mr. Chapman is running against Martha Coakley not against public, but , buty against coakley anyway i think you giant reset in this country in the way that it is going, in the way of some type of hope and future for the middle class, it has been estimated. Decimated. Ment you have Government Programs that push the middle class the other way. I want to see an upper middleclass, dont cut the rungs on the latter, give it to them so they can climb. I think we need change and a giant reset Going Forward, and bsity not talk and government figures that come , weand lie all the time need a government that wont lie to the people dream wouldnt that be great . How does your enthusiasm compared to the last midterm . I think people are fed up and have had enough of government lies, the theployment reports that the government tells you but people feel and know that it is a giant lie because they are living it. The government throws out false propaganda and people are like, are you kidding . I think we have had enough of this administration. I think we can get some good people in the senate to put bills through, to help people prosper. I just see my local cities decimated with government hopeams and, is this the that this administration brings to young families gecko families . Host as we showed you at the top of the show, president obama was in Wayne State University in detroit, appealing to voters to get out the vote and here is a bit of him explain to voters why they should. [video clip] here is the bottom line, if youre here you are going to vote but i want you to feel the sense of urgency these last three days, the bigger corporations dont need another champion, the wealthy americans dont need another champion, you do. Opportunity for a few is not what michigan is about, opportunity for all is what built the middle class in this country. That is why you have to vote. If you want Something Better you have to vote for it, you have to work for it. Needelieve your families tax breaks not millionaires, you have to vote for it. If you believe we should invest in our childrens schools and give teachers more support and get Early Childhood education in place of people get a good start in life and young people going to college are not burdened with tens of thousands of dollars worth of debt, you have to vote for it. [applause] if you think folks who work hard should get an honest days pay for honest work, you have to vote for it. Host president obama yesterday in michigan trying to get voters fired up for the gubernatorial and senate races in michigan. Washingtonece from post. 22 Million People in united tes they broke down some of the numbers and those posting. Women posted more about the election than men in every age overory, women age 65 and were in the high teens or close to 20 of those users on facebook posting about it. You can see the comparison to the middle teen numbers for men in these age groups. Facebook usersed by state. Maine was the most active state inh 19. 8 percent engaging some conversation about the midterm elections in facebook and new york. The least active state, residence using facebook just 9. 3 . We want to engage in conversations with you asking how enthusiastic you are about getting out votes on tuesday. Joe on our line for independent. Caller my enthusiasm a shot. It is not there anymore. I dont know if enthusiasm about voting is the right word, it implies we will not vote, i will vote but morale is low so we vote for people in hope that things will change but they never do. As far as enthusiasm goes, mine i was very enthusiastic and 2010, the Affordable Care act passed in march and i was very enthusiastic that year. Arrivede, the tea party and came on the scene of course, the republicans took over the house and i was feeling pretty good and then two dozen 12 it was either june or july when john roberts decided that the Affordable Care act was a tax issue and broke the tie icing we dont have any business here, that is congress business, even after all the debate my morale went, what in the world . Make too much of these polls about voter enthusiasm and which party is more enthusiastic than the other i am a Constitution Party person i dont have anyone representing me in this race. I know i will have some of for president host who will that be . Caller we dont know yet, but people like Lindsey Graham. Year, boin gotis a multimillion dollar contract to build helicopters, how can i be enthusiastic about that . It smells. Nikki will go back in done here, tim scott will go in and Lindsey Graham will go in but i will not vote for nikki haley, i will vote for the independent mr. French. He will not win. We would like we are up against a brick wall. Host joe calling from South Carolina talking about his votes for the gubernatorial senate and the house races down there. Lets talk about shea in fort tears florida. Im trying to figure out im talking to all American People talking about the president s policies explain to me, i want to hear someone explain to me the president s policies. The only thing i know that he got past was the Affordable Care act and think god he did it because i lost my job in 2007 and had insurance on my life. Because if i needed it it would be there not because i was sick. We were not able to get any credible insurance before the Affordable Care act, we could not get it. When it came on we were able to get good insurance and thank god because we needed it had. Host stick around, in our next segment of washington journal we will be talking about the key issues that drove the debates and health care as welcome a that is coming up at 7 45. Is beengo to gary who waiting in a georgia for our line on republicans. I am enthused and the reason i became a republican is because the recovery act here is where the money meant went. To denmark, 280 million to denmark, 20 5 million to denmark, 91. 5 million to japan. Russia, 140to million to germany, spain, 100 million, you has this issue made more enthusiastic than you have been in the past . Because, democrats say they are for the middle class, billion, 200 billion to thailand, how does this help the middle class here . 12. 75 million, demetrio,ill go to good morning. I am super enthused about this election, more than any election in many years because this year i chose an issue to be excited about that i wanted to get big money out of politics, i dont like alien is having more influence than i do so for that reason id i havingike billionaires more influence than i do, so for ive decided to vote. Ive been following online accidents activism. When people speak out it really influences the people in congress and in corporations and the people have the power. They have the dollar power and they can speak but they are not using it. They are getting upset and are not thinking. Theyre saying the same old thing is happening host does it surprise you when you saw the enthusiasm numbers are down this year . Among rich voters those who said they were more enthusiastic, according to this cbs news poll, 40 said they were less 2010,iastic compared to 47 said they were more enthusiastic to 34 who said they will less enthusiastic, to those numbers surprise you . Not, i thinkbly this is an excellent time to vote and i encourage anyone who can to get out and vote, i dont care who you vote for. Host dean on the line for democrats. I am more enthusiastic about voting because i want to be sure the republicans do not take control of the senate. You have Mitch Mcconnell earlier speaking, this is the man, prior to the 2000 to all election who stood on the senate floor and said his number one priority was to make president obama a one term president. , not to pute jobs people back to work, not concerned about the economy and not concerned about unemployment, but to make the president a one term president. Host did you make it to the president s appearance last night . Caller i was at a church function. Host how you think the gubernatorial candidate will do in the close race with Rick Schneider in michigan . With the things that rick has done it should be the other guy. Union a man died in the 30s trying to form the union but this man and his legislator pushed through the right to work which is really a right to be fired, so i have no enthusiasm. I know how the unions how the republicans feel about the unions, and to me the unions built the middle class starting with reagan. When bush won he believed in one 92ld order and in that president ial debate between perot, clinton and bush, he said if you pass the master you will be sucking jobs from america. It but clinton signed it into law. How enthusiastic are you about voting on election day . We are talking about the battlefield as well coming up in our next segment but also on newsmakers this week we had an expanded 45 minute discussion in the final weekend of the campaign, we were joined by two of the top election prognosticators, amy walter and stuart rothenberg. Amy walter explains why so many races are so close. [video clip] regardless of how well the grad game turns out for democrats, the fact is they have been able to improve it from where it was in 2010. They have brought new people into the process and you are starting to see some of that in the polls. That is why there is not a 15 point gap. Folks are incumbent, and in this day and age it is still tough even when people are frustrated and the alternative not that voters are particularly interested but youre talking about a Republican Party that if they do win control it will come with lower Approval Ratings Approval Ratings than the president. This person we want or this party because it seems like they will be better at whatever they are not good at, that in this case they are saying, i guess we have to go for this one. See that entire interview after todays washington journal at 10 00 a. M. And you can hear it on cspan radio and of course newsmakers is Available Online at cspan. Org. Today, the georgia u. S. Senate state is taking place at 11 00 a. M. Here on cspan. You can watch Michelle Nunn and david purdue. Liveus on tuesday for campaign 2014 Election Night coverage, starting at 8 00 p. M. Eastern. Us by phone,with on twitter or facebook as well. A few more minutes to get your calls on this question, how enthusiastic are you about voting . Our line for republicans. Early. I always vote i dont like to wait in long lines so that is what i do. Jenny, and terms of your level of enthusiasm does it change cycle to cycle . Can i say this . , wrote john boehner a letter if you or someone you know runs into him, tell him to write me back. Host ok, jenny in lancaster, ohio. Next, on our line for independents. A lot of people here today are alive, they listen to talk radio and dont back up anything. The last election when they won a lot of seats, they called obama a socialist over the bank electionnd after the bush was on meet the press and said he was responsible for tarp. Sent 800 billion to iraq and nobody knows where it went. Host you are concerned about people getting wrong information where do you get your information from . Host cspan. I dont listen to news media because they should just tell the news, you can tell they lean this way or that way, i night needspan and the truth. When we got hit by 9 11 and we were going after bin laden, bush sent bin ladens family over here and what did he tell them . We want to be friends with you but we are still going to go after your nephew told thehink that bush truth about anything. On our twitter page, people who arent informed and dont what theyre doing shouldnt vote, that is part of the problem. A couple minutes left on your level of enthusiasm. Melvyn on our line for democrats during democrats. Upler my enthusiasm is americans have a short memory span. They should remember that in two dozen eight this country was basically wrecked. What would people do against all the republicans obstruction. Mitch oconnell on the day he was getting sworn in, how can anyone with a conscience sit up knowing everything that he has done to promote things to cut health care and to cut the , they want a theyan coming in want tax breaks for small businesses, that is good but its the only thing they have ever propose. Ripping out there building and repairing the roofs. They voted against repairs, the problem is america has a short see span and they want to who will become the savior and walk on water and correct all these problems. Host one other piece i want to show you is from mindy romario for the sacramento bee. The headline, friends dont let friends not vote. Lastesday approaches the thing on peoples minds is the midterm election. How low willion is it be . We might set a record low for a general election in california. The Current Record low eligible turnout occurred in two dozen two with 36 of voters turning to the polls. She says this is not to suggest we give up and accept low turnout, the risk of hitting a new voting low should be a rallying cry for change. Low turnout diminishes our voices as citizens enterprise policy put needed to make sound and fair decisions on the critical issues. Lets go to peter calling in from mckinney, texas. Caller can you hear me . Good morning. If you look at all the groups in america and you try to see who needs the most help, i am a republican, or middleclass, i dont need any help. We may complain a lot but we are doing fine, the rich people they are doing very fine. People we need to help our workingclass people, people who make between 10 and 15 an hour and right now i just cannot iserstand how our president going to pass we read about the contract they let out to the company that is in the process of putting out 12 million green cards and he said, after i am going to do the amnesty, immigration thing. What could do more harm to the people we are trying to help than to give green cards to the illegal people so now you make 12 an hour and some guy shows up with a green card that could not, day before and says, i am legal and i will take peters job you dont need to pay me 12 an hour, you can take me 10 an hour and i will work twice as hard. How does that help the people we need to help . To stick may want around we will be talking in our panel next about some of the issues that could come up in the lameduck session of congress. Paul, good morning. Caller good morning. Not too enthusiastic about voting for congress because we keep sending the same yardbirds back up there. Im enthusiastic about voting for the school board and local elections, there is one thing that congress should do as far as jobs in the United States, on corporations who send the jobs overseas to make the price is compatible with what they do and come up with in the United States. I think that would be a good thing. Caller,ul is our last up next will be joined by usa today editor paul singer. Later, we will discuss voter of theng in the age political campaign. The cspan city stewart takes books on the road, traveling to cities to learn about their literary history. This weekend we partnered with comcast for a visit to colorado. 1806 was when Montgomery Pike was sent to the american southwest to explore the region, similar to park who was sent to the northwestern portion, pike to the southwest part, from his perspective he walked off the map. He went to an area that was unknown. When he succeeds to the grand peak, he thinks he will reach the top in a few days but it really takes weeks. The reach that he believes is a Lower Mountain, so they turned around and at that point he wrote in his journals that, given the conditions, given the equipment they had at the time, no one could have summative the peak. Inspire the poem that became america the who came here to Colorado Springs to teach a summer course at Colorado College. The view down to the planes from the top of the mountain inspired the poetry and inspired the images captured in the poetry. Our events from Colorado Springs today at 2 00 est. Throughout campaign told thousand 14 2014, they have brought debates from all over the country in races that will determine the congress. Tuesday night, watch cspan live at night coverage to see who wins, who loses and which party will control the house and senate. You will also see candidate victory and concession speeches in some of the most closely watched senate races across the country. Withnt to hear from you your calls, facebook, its and tweets. Comments and tweets. Host Abby Livingston is reporter for roll call newspaper, and paul singer for usa today. Paul, in the 11th hour, does it feel like there is more uncertainty about how or when this will end . The when isinly new, it seems clear we will have a runoff in indiana at which means it will not be decided until december, it seems plausible we will have a runoff in georgia which means it will not be decided until january, at which point i am ready to take the rest of the year off. That is uncommon. We also have to wonder, so if some of them will be as close as they appear to be are there going to be recounts and legal challenges . Those things could take weeks and months themselves. Host Abby Livingston, on the range of uncertainty, usa today webpage has seven tossup races, real clear politics eight races that are tossups. 10e political reports have tossups, why so much uncertainty . These races are down to the wire, the polling we are hearing about is within the margin of error, up one week by one point and down one week by another. My best barometer is when i talk to people on the hill and the changes in their tone of voice. Are they more panicked this week or less panicked . Who is the most panicked that you talk to . Guest certainly democrats. The one concern is that they republicans will gain control and we have known that for a long time. It comes down to the individual incumbent, and are their friends going to be coming back. There is fear that their best friend on the floor will not be coming back, about 17 of them are in serious trouble. What is a wave of election and how do we know when it is coming . Guest a wave election is when you see a tremendous sweep and changes in control. I think we are very close to seeing a republican takeover of the senate, i am not sure if , if will count as a wave they win everything on the table, if they run the table and win all of these in between seats, maybe you can call that a wave. If scott brown wins in new jean for, if he beats a democratic held seat, if thom tillis beats kay hagan in North Carolina on the east coast, that is where you begin to see the signs. Those are the states where at the moment democrats have the best chance of holding on. If they lose those two first it does not look good in iowa already and by the time we get to alaska, it could very well have been a sweep. Host are you bracing for a wave at all . Possibly,the outside projections keep getting higher. The range could go to 12. I heard the number 24, that is hard to digest. And a house isn a republicans have somebody seats that there arent that many more to win. They may be held to a standard that they think is unfair, there just arent that many districts left. Host susan davis, a reporter she had a tweet, amazing that 800 billion is for whathouse races will be a movement of five to 10 seats and no change of party control. 800 million. Im looking forward to the final numbers if it is four seats and 1 billion spent. Were looking at a total arms race of money. Host we are talking of Abby Livingston of roll call. And paul singer of usa today your call usa today. Host we will start with george from South Carolina on the line for republicans. Good morning, everyone. I think the presence of those who want and can participate is much more than the previous election, at least it shows that. Am 25 years old looking at this community at this election as the persons the people come to give their vote it will be less than the previous one because they want to boycott the election host paul singer, talking about voter turnout what are the expectations. He has a good point, there was a poll in usa today a couple of days ago that found people were not excited about going to vote and not enthusiastic about who would take Congress Next and we have this great quote from a voter who says it is just a cornucopia cky out there. George is right, i would be stunned to see significant turnout. The democrats are making a major push, particularly in louisiana, georgia, even alaska to get people to the polls. If they are going to win these races, all of these places need tremendous turnout particularly among enormities and young people. Host some of the headlines from today, here is Washington Post. Drama in the home stretch, gop closes in but it may not and on election day. In in early voters turn droves to cast their ballots. One story from the miami herald. The final push. Lets go to lena, portland, oregon. Say that would like to first i have already voted and i think as a person of color i would like to say one of the problems that weighs heavy with me i want to make this sound as good as i can, as respectful democrats ie look at how they are running from obama. Grimes she was enough to make you want to cry but all over the country they are doing that and the man has done better than haveabout any president i ever known, i m 65 years old. What do you want from him, he is not god. People are not voting with their pocketbooks, they are voting grace. Voted, ilike me, i have felt hard fallen because it doesnt matter whether i vote, i would never vote for a republican but the democrats are such cowards anything to get elected so they seem to be just as powerhungry as the republicans. Lena rings up at highprofile kentucky race, our house candidates running away from president obama as much as the senators . Good lena had a really point in this is a growing debate, the you go all in with the president , get your base to come out or run from him. What is happening in a lot of these house races is democrats are running in hostile territory. For instance in southern West Virginia, nick needs to win by 90 . President obama internally poling when thauf kind of dynamic its really hard for Nick Ray Hall to say i know you dont like obama but still vote for me. Theres a nuance he has to do. I cant think of any specific ads but hes definitely not hugging president obama and inviting him to come into the district. You bring up nick ray hal listed in your recent story out from yesterday one of the most vulnerable house incumbents. Who else makes that list according to the roll call analysis . We have some interesting members. Illinois tops the list. Theres a bad feeling in illinois this year. The gubetorle race is dragging down democrats. He got a late start to his campaign and he as freshman. So he really hasnt established his brand. Most people think nick ray hal is the most vulnerable. Hes got a good local branch they call him nicky joe in the district. Thats why we felt he wasnt number one we moved him down kind of contrary to conventional wisdom. Another closely watched one lee terry. Guest yes. Host the most number two. Guest and he is a republican. He made a comment during the Government Shutdown about how he needed to accept his paycheck when a lot of other members were turning him down to pay for his nice house. That has not sat well. People on the street can repeat the advertisements repeating his quotes verbatim. So he has a very toxic presence right now. So his problem is not necessarily whats going on in the big picture but it reflects the anger voters feel. Host if you want to check out that entire list its roll call. Com. You can see on the screen there. Those are the race ratings for all the different house races around the country. Florence, South Carolina on our line for republicans. Good morning. Caller good morning. Go ahead. Caller good morning. Host youre on the washington journal. Go ahead. Caller i think our government is broken. It needs to be completely overhauled. Therefore, i believe that they all need to be voted out and all new voted in. Think this is the time as i think this is a time that our military active reserve retired and former need to get out and vote. Host wayne with a comment on the getting out the vote. Talk about tossing the bums out. The dissatisfaction that voters have. Have we seen more members than usual this cycle be defeated more incumbents be defeated this cycle than usual . Guest we thought there may be a wave of incumbents being challenged particularly on the republican side with tea party challengers. We didnt actually see a great deal of that. A lot of the incumbents managed to dig in. At the moment one of the most exciting on the republican side remains pat roberts of kansas where you have hes actually running an independent named greg orman theyre neck and neck. Hard to tell whats going to happen. Host are we going to see more independents run in the future . Guest thats an interesting question. You could in theory now have a three or four member independent block in the senate at the end of this election cycle which would be pretty remarkable. You know, independent candidates still have the same problem that its hard to get name recognition its hard to get Party Support and frequently in many states they cant get on the ballot. The Ballot Access issues are extraordinary for third parties and independent. So e it remains ab institutional problem where you cannot get easily on third parties on a ballot and theyre not going to win lots of seethe but theres an enormous dwiss satisfaction with both parties. So its a nice opportunity for rossdz perot or high dollar figure to step up and fund their own campaign in 2016. I wouldnt be surprised if you see somebody trying to make that case. Host but easier than a house or senate level . Sometimes. But its hard tore get traction in those small races if the parties are so even trenched theres no other avenue for you. I think theres a couple in new york in the house seats trying to get on the ballots and again trying to get traction and attention. Its hard to do. Host gerald in highland, california. Good morning. Thanks for getting up with us. Caller thank you for allowing me to get in there. Im a retired naval Commander Special operations i fought in vietnam twice as a sea be. What i want to mention i see both parties doing this same thing. Its the same old sandwich different mayonnaise nothing is going to be done at the ballot. Its going to take something much more severe because these guys are lying lawyers both sides of the parties. They never tell the truth. They dance around the issue. They will not answer you yes or no. And were frustrated. I am so sick of this nonsense. Its like somebody telling me theyre peeing on my leg and its only rain. Were tired of the lies, the all the nonsense going on. Also like wall street during the bubble no one went to jail. I told my students im a retired college professor, too. Go to wall street change your last name youll never go to prison and you can steal all you want. Host youve been out on the campaign trail a bit. Are you seeing that same sentiment that gerald expresses with the frustration of congress . Guest absolutely. And gerald had an interesting point and reflects the unique thing about this cycle, which is in past cycles theres been anger at one party or the other. President obama, president bush, congress. But whats going on here is voters are angry at both obama and both the republicans. And its really what were trying to do is figure out where the anger is concentrated more and how it plays out. So this is just a very interesting dynamic. And they want to throw the bums out but then they hate the other side, too. So its just its a very, very strange cycle. Ost a question for you. I havent heard too much about them at this point. I think that theyre going to fall in line. I dont know that but it seems like the fact that kay hagan is still in a tight race that the republicans are coming out. If they were going to sit that one out she wouldnt she would be walking away with this. So i dont know too much about that but it seems like the fact that these races are still competitive means that theyre saying theyre going to come out. Host your thoughts on the future of Tea Party Versus Establishment Republicans after the 2014 cycle . Guest well you still see some appearance of tea party candidates. Like in louisiana rob main nuss is probably going to be a critical factor. He doesnt look likely to win. Hes taking maybe 10, 12 of the vote but he may very well deny a flat out victory to the republicans. So and sara palin is still up with advertisements this weekend for man ust. So there still is an element of voters who are really disappointed with the Republican Party are not ready to embrace the Democratic Party and the Tea Party Still expresses i think the tea party to the degree there is such a party it still represents where they are on the spectrum. Where the question is when they walk into a voting booth and see a tea party or third party an outside candidate will they cast that vote or will they cast a vote for the bill cassidy or the other republican who seems to be more likely to win and a better choice than a democrat. Host talking with paul singer and Abby Livingston with roll call one of their Campaign Staff writers. Here to answer your questions, take your comments for the next half hour as were in our last political roundtable before the 2014 election. Chicago, on our line for democrats. Caller good morning. When i see people like these two people come on the program and i applaud them because this is what theyre getting paid to do but i hear them say they are and if. How can you say they are going to win and then you turn around and say if . If they were so good in their predictions why didnt somebody tell romney in 2012 that he was going to take a whooping . I hear karl rove talking about the president is going to be beat. And until the last vote is counted on november 3 how can you come on tv and just unless you know something that the public doesnt know . These republicans are going to take over . And this is my last thing. I asked a couple of months ago from George Washington to george bush as far as Foreign Policy goes, how many men did they get . This president from bin laden to ben gaza who we spent millions of dollars tracking down. The president has gotten his men. Host i want to stick on projections and how you come up with these tossup categories leaning one way or the other. How does u. S. A. Today do it . Guest well, its a great point. I want to underscore this exactly. None of us know anything. This is all based on prediction, on polling, on our understanding of the races, on sort of feeling the mood on the ground. None of us know anything. The voters go to the polls on election day and they make the decisions. All we are offering you at the moment is what we call educated guesses. And thats one of the reasons why when john asked how come the various u. S. A. Today, the rothenberg, roll call all have slightly different analysis, thats why. Its because nobody voted. Well, in the early voting states people have vote bud we dont know how theyve voted. So all of these are based on what we know about the voters and how the polls have trended. I give more faith to polls over time than i do any specific individual poll. So last night the iowa poll showed joanie ernst up 7 points against bruce brailleie. Thats the biggest lead any time since the election season. Does that mean that joanie ernst is going to win by 7 points . Yorning so. But what it does reflect is a trend if you look at all the polling over the summer into the fall you will see that joanie ernst has done well and better in all the polls. That suggests momentum in her direction. So i dont mean to say and i dont think any of us mean to say heres the outcome. We know whats going to happen. I will tell you that every reporter i know has their own sort of betting pool like, well, i bet you its going to be maybe 8, 6, 7, 5. Were doing our best guessing and trying to give the viewers an opportunity to hear what we think is the most likely scenario or the trend in the election. But we are not calling races. Host the Des Moines Register oll, heres the chart of it. Abby give us an example of predibblingting a race and coming up with how you go about calling leans or tossups. Do georgias 12 strict down there. Guest thats a hard one. And im very glad that this year Stewart Rothenberg is the main caller of these races and that has been taken off me because its one of the most stressful parts of the job. Georgia 12 is fascinating because you have john bareo who is a blue dog democrat who has been in office for years and years. And he is what we qual a white whale republicans keep trying to come after him and he keeps getting reelected. He runs some of the best ads of the cycle. He host and is always listed as the most vulnerable or one of the most vulnerable at the beginning. Guest and we have quit putting his name on the list because its it just never happened. So its almost a superstitious thing. The republicans dont talk him up as much as they used to. They dont even want to go there. So the other thing thats good for him this year beyond the superstition and the fun of it is that michelle nun is at the top of the ticket and could be offering him some relief that he hasnt had in years past. But hes just a really testify lon candidate who can make the case to his voters that i am a democrat but you know me and you like me and keep sending me back. So i have this fear weve kept him off the list and then this is the year he losings and we get it wrong. Host what does the race ranking right now . Guest i believe its a tossup maybe leans or tilts d but hes just a fantastic candidate that outperforms his district. Host you can see all those rankings at roll call. Com. Story from roll call on the final rankings of the ten most vulnerable senators. E can run through thats the final rankings according to roll call of the ten most vulnerable senators. We want to get to your calls. Marianne, pittsburgh, pennsylvania. Good morning. Caller hi. I just wanted to let the American People know that when everybody in the Democratic Party, when they had the senate and the house they voted for a Health Care Law that nobody has ad and just passed and how incompetent is that . And bring all of our businesses people getting fired and losing their jobs. And here i just got a 73 nterest hike on my health care premiums. Any democrat that would vote that never read the law nancy pelosi should be fired. She really should all of them. Arry reid. Does this cause the downfall of the American People . And also, i have to say is why didnt the lady that got beheaded in Oklahoma City after the president got on and talked about trayvon martin, about that other eric holder incident and Michael Brown which we feel bad about . But why was no attention brought to that lady that got her head cut off . And also host you bring up several issues. I want to stick to the Campaign Issue of health care and how thats played this cycle. I want to give paul singer the politics under u. S. A. Today to talk about the evolution of that as a Campaign Issue in campaign 2014. Guest its really interesting. Scott browns race in New Hampshire gave sort of an interesting perspective on it. When he first announced that he was going to be running for senate in New Hampshire, all of his press releases for the first three weeks were obamacare. That was all they were. Obamacare is lousy. This is early in the spring this year. Over time his press releases began to change and other topics began to come in, particularly terrorism and ebola and things like that. And i think that is a good barometer of how obama care has played during this election season. We thought originally that it was going to be the issue that drow people to the polls. All the republicans would say the obamacare was a terrible thing and its destroyed america. And we thought democrats would refuse to take any credit for it. What has been surprising is to see in some races, even in arkansas mark prior having an ad saying i was proud to vote for health care for people who had existing conditions. I was proud to vote for health care for your children to stay stay on your health plan. So democrats have found some things that they can embrace in the Affordable Care act. And republicans as the thing has turned out not to be as unpopular as they have expected have turned to other issues. Obamacare the Affordable Care act is still an issue that republicans cite as being part of the problem that needs to be fixed or repaired. Theres Much Less Energy on sort of replace the whole thing, tear it out and start over than there would have been a year ago. Host talking about some of the senate races. Are you seeing the same dynamic in the house races that youve covered . Guest were absolutely flum oxed by how few ads were seeing about obamacare. We were amping up and expecting that. I think part of it is that voters do find things that they like about it. Specific issues within the legislation. I also think its just the ads have been run to death for four years and they no longer register with the viewer. So i think its more i think its partially a need to be more creative with ads but i think its also clear that its they need to branch out to other issues and add to the competence issue, the chaos in the world issue. Its just one of many issues rather than the dominating issue. Host talk about all the campaign ads this cycle. I want to show some of the Late Campaign ads. Heres one from Mitch Mcconnell playing on the idea of the number of Campaign Commercials in his own campaign commercial. You know, a lot of people try to tell me how to do my commercials. We see you between two trucks. That sounds dangerous. Hey, mitch. What about using a talking baby . Thats been done before. Well then with you and blood hounds . Thats not going to work. Maybe its enough to say mitch fights for kentucky. Maybe this isnt such a bad idea. Im Mitch Mcconnell and i approve this message. Host is it time for those kind of ads . Who does not like politicians and blood hounds . Guest i think at a certain point you are still trying to make the message to your voters that you hear them, you understand what theyre saying. And in fact a lot of voters now are saying please stop were tired of it. This is an opportunity to make Mitch Mcconnell a little more personable. Which again for mcconnell is an important point to make. Hes not the most likeable guy. I doipt mean hes bad. Hes very in his shell most of the time. Heres an opportunity to show hes just another guy having fun. Host the Democratic Senatorial Campaign can he wanting to touch on a few issues on that campaign with their own late ds in kentucky this cycle. Host the late ads this that closely watched kentucky race. We want to talk about the races important to you. Our viewers. And for about the next 20 minutes or so here on the washington journal in our final political roundtable of the 2014 cycle. Illinois on our line for independents. Good morning. Caller good morning. How are you doing . Host good. Go ahead. Caller i just watch these ads and i understand that theyre trying to get reelected for a job that theyre not doing. None of them. Obama included. He hasnt done anything. The only thing i see him doing is [inaudible] he got out on the golf course. I dont see [inaudible] hes not a leader. He doesnt take responsibility for anything. And the democrats just run off behind him. I just dont understand that. Host abby give you a chance to jump in. That image of president obama on the golf course. Gave a lot of attention at what was going on around the world and what the United States was dealing with . How did that play out . Guest people are unhappy with it. Its not reassuring. I think it just speaks to the larger issue that they feel like that many voters feel like theres a competence issue. Sometimes i feel like democrats on the hill are angrier at president obama than republicans. They feel like he hasnt done the things he needs to do to take care of himself politically to help them. And even though he wont be on the ballot to give them cover or make things less bad for them and theyre having to defend themselves and fight his fight for him in the districts where theyre running. Host up next from ormand beach, florida. Good morning. Caller good morning. That last caller was way off base. Its on record that president obama has created more jobs than in all the 8 years that bush was in spithe of the fact that from day one of his presidency the republicans and their corporate buddies have deliberately held back jobs figuring that the next president would be a republican like romney and they would get a sweeter deal. But heres the facts. Governor scott here in florida when he was a ceo of a hospital before he became governor ripped off medicare the federal government for billions. And see thats how they operate. They dont like the government but they like to steal or exploit government by just like in georgia where nun the democrat is running against this purdue the guy that owned general dollar store. He bragged about outsourcing jobs. He bragged about it. I dont figure it out. But then look at paul ryan. Look at his budget. No benefits for the unemployed. No help for the students. But who is his hero . Paul ryan. Host in terms of the idea, who can get more done or who has gotten more done whether its job creation, the romback report to watching on twitter writes bawl what do you make about this debate of who is getting more done . Guest to some degree your last two callers encapsulate a lot of the issues that were seeing on the trail, which is that for republicans the conversation is very heavily about obama and harry reid and the failure of the National Democratic agenda they would say. Bomes been a bad president. Is the message. They terrorist attacks are growing. And thats a bad thing. Ebola is out of control. For republicans on the campaign, a lot of these campaigns all across the country its obama is the first message. For the democrats, its the exact opposite. Thafere trying to focus on whats gone on in the state, what has the senator or the capped date done in the state to help the state grow its jobs, to help the economy improve. They dont want to talk about obama at all if they can avoid it. It is almost as if theres two campaigns. Theres a Republican Campaign which is about the National Issues theres a Democratic Campaign about the state issues. The question is which one the voters here. The advantage the republicans have is that obama gets much more press and the bad things happening in the world get much more press than the good things that might be happening at the state level that the democrats want to emphasize. Guest if i could jump in on that. One thing she noted that ive found remarkable is that the Unemployment Rate is down and the stock market is soaring. And its not the economy is not an issue on the campaign. Bank accounts are growing. 401 k s. But we just do not see the economy surfacing in advertising. Theres no victory lap in the Democratic Party that im seeing. Its about almost everything but the economy. So its a fascinating dynamic that in six years how far the country has come and its just not anything anyone is talking about. Host lets go out to oklahoma where jims been waiting on our line for republicans. Good morning. Caller good morning. Your show isnt long enough to mention every failure obamas been by far the worst president. The most horrible thing is hes taxing our military in forward position in combat while he and his husband or wife, whatever you want to call them is spending money overseas. Hes aided the muslim brotherhood. And the big problem with our country is the g. O. P. And the dnc, which two people we need to vote for . And until we change the country is screwed. Host how would you change it . Caller the what . Host would you change the primaries . The way candidates are picked . Caller we have more choice than like dancing with stars or Something Like that. But to pick over 300 Million People picking between who is going to be our president were told two people. Plus our government tells us how much theyre going to make. We the people should tell the government how much theyre going to make. If they overspend the government they should be fired or in jail. Host some of the frustrations that the caller brings up. Guest if i remember correctly and i cannot guarantee that i do. But oklahoma is one of the hardest states for a thirdparty candidate to get on the ballot for the presidency, which is sort of interesting. And remember this is again a wacky thing about america. Our National Elections are run by states independently. So who you can vote for for president in oklahoma is not the same list of candidates as who you can vote for president in massachusetts. Every state has their own Ballot Access rules. And so across the country the president tial ballot, who you can vote for, is different. And while the democrats and the republicans will be on every ballot in every state, the libertarians, the Constitution Party, the green party, pick your other independent or third party, will not be on the ballot in every state. They have to spend time and money litigating this issue to get on those ballots. And so jim is right that we have more choice in the tooth paste aisle than we do in the president ial ballot most years which can imstunning to people. Whether that is good or bad is not my department. I dont do good or bad. But i can tell you that it is always been an issue that the rules are different and who you can vote for is different depending on where you live. Host the last caller with a bit of criticism for the president. Aby i want to give you this tweet. Guest thats an interesting argument. And the Republican National committee has made part of the mid term elections the hire harry reid or fire reid which is what they did four years ago with fire pelosi. So they are definitely trying to pin this on harry reid. Harry reid is not as well known as president obama is obviously. He is a senator in those you have to spend a lot of money branding folks. And branding a person like harry reid in television advertising. But the republicans are definitely trying to pin this on the Senate Majority leader. Host one other story from roll call. Senate democrats super lawyer prepping for overtime if you want to talk about preparations made by democrats and republicans for the day after the elections. Guest and i wrote a story about it two years ago. Its amazing how they think these things through. The legal arguments. This is not something the National Parties would be doing something wrong if theyre ing about what do do f a few years ago there was the minnesota recount and it was it went on for months and it was a brutal process. And they sent in the two top you rs, and they just could lose the legal argument of these things by how slow you move. I think we saw that with the president ial contest in 2000. They have to already have thought this through. Host were talking with abby livelingston of roll call. Paul singer. Mike up next. New philadelphia ohio on our line for independents. Host caller good morning. Im amazes as i drive around town on my particular street theres not one Campaign Sign up. The only sign up in anybodys yard is the guy thats remodeling his house. I go down the main drag, the for a ns ive seen are local juvenile judge and state representative. I havent seen one portman sign or the people running against them. Casic wont even debate his opponent whoever it happens to be. Ive never seen such a lack of i want rest. Its almost like tuesday is just the day after monday next week. And as far as the health care issue, my wife and i both are on medicare. We got our reenrollment for prime time and heres the sad news for you republicans. My premium went down, my coverage went up, my copays went down. The coverage that extended. The only problem we have with the Health Care System is the socalled done nut hole which they can say what they want its not closing. The only thing thats getting smaller is the amount that i have to pay for my drugs once i hit the doenut hole itself. Host i want you to pick up the first part of that. Guest thats astounding. I used to to decide who is going to win by driving from cleveland to akron or driving tomorrow cleveland to mount vernon, ohio. Particularly the drive from cleveland to mount vernon, ohio, youre going through this rural stretch and every sign along the roads was a yard sign and you could kind of do your own poll driving down the road and counting how many say bush and how many say kerry. Pick your election. And i would sort of decide my guess on who was going to carry ohio by counting the yard signs. So if youre seeing no yard signs out in new fealed, ohio, i think it speaks to what weve been talking about here that there is a lack of excitement for any of the candidates. Theres a lack of interest and a lack of people wanting to really be engaged p. And to some degree these races arent competitive and people dont bother. Guest thats the key point. There is no senate race in ohio. And redistricting has wiped out what was once the most competitive map in the country with a bunch of seats that would go each cycle democrats would lose one year republicans would lose the other year. Redistricting has totally upended the ohio map and we barely give any coverage to the buck aye state just for lack of competition. Host in terms of milestones that people all over the country can watch on election day, a recent politics story talked about some of the five milestones to look for. One of them is in maryland. Anthony brown defeats larry hogan in a very tight race gotten tighter in recent days. Become the first African American governor of maryland that would make this democrat only the third black person elected governor in the United States following doug wilder in virginia and patrick in massachusetts. And then also out in utah mia love in utah ds fourth Congressional District. Would become the first black republican woman elected to congress. So just two of the several milestones that u. S. A. Today has for voters to watch all over the country. Lets go to maryian waiting in West Virginia on our line for democrats. Good morning. Caller hello. Im calling in bauds i want to talk about the senate race in West Virginia. We have two women that are running. One is from the house of representatives she willy moore cap to and the other one is the secretary of state naturally tenant. Now, shelly moore cap to her father was arch moore. And as governor he went to prison. He admitted for to his embezzlement from the state black lung and teachers retirement. So as we look at this race, gnat li tenant doesnt have a chance. Sheltly moore cap to as the republican she puts on 20 ads on the local channels on the tv. Shes had so much money. And the people are not being represented of nor do they hear the facts. Host what do you have spent some time in West Virginia . Guest absolutely. I actually have asked the congresswoman about this, about her father and his past. Her argument is her father did a lot of good for West Virginia, he helped build the roads, he brought kindergarten to the state. And as i think you have to judge the person by the person themselves and theres never been any evidence of corruption from the congresswoman. And so i think its an issue that i asked voters about. Some care about it some did not but its i think its very interesting she is definitely running as she willy moore cap to and not she willy moore. Host robert up next. Good morning. Caller good morning. I want to talk about the medicare obamacare. I was a democrat until carter. I voted for him the first time but the second time i voted for reagan. Since then i know that the republicans are not perfect but they certainly havent been lying through their teeth like obama especially with the obamacare. Because he told people first that they would have their same doctors, they would save 2500. And for seniors like me, im 78 years young, he said that took out 700 billion out of the medicare system. So for that man that says hes paying less, im paying more. The charges that you pay medicare, they take out of your money is going up. And then their copayments on everything like hospital care, ifive to go in. And different treatments. I would have to pay more for all of them. So its not been were not picking on obama. Were just i just feel like he as liar that back in the old days we believed that liars can be thieves. On just im not picking him because he put himself up to be picked on. Host paul. Guest i would be interested to see in about five or six years what the legacy of obama care is is. For president obama this is really the signature achievement of his presidency. Its the bill is called the law is called obamacare because it really is the law that will be his brand. And the question is going to be where are people in five years . Is this the landmark or social policy achievement of the decade . Providing expanded Health Care Coverage to millions of americans. Or is it a complicated disaster that raises peoples rates and that forces providers out of the Health Care System . I really think its too early to tell. The initial rollout has been very challenging. It is very clear that more people are insured than were insured before the law passed. Its not clear how happy they are with that insurance. And i think that its going to take a couple of years before democrats can march out to the electorate and say we are the party that brought you the Affordable Care act and Affordable Health insurance. They want to be able to say that. That was the reason for this law. They want to be able to claim that as their legacy. And at the moment they cant. Lets see where they are in four or five years. Host lets go to edward mating in Manchester Connecticut on our line for independents. Caller good morning. I wanted to thank paul for letting me know that he goes by the polls. I dont think its a very accurate way of really understanding what the American People want when they have to choose between one of the two evils. Youre not really getting a pinpointed opinion from the voters that way. My suggestion is that we look instead of towards all the problems that the real problem causing, we understand that the president has addressd to us that the system is broken. But he hasnt been very descriptive as to exactly why its broken. And its very important that we understand. Because our government is our National Security and our safety in our nation. D if we dont make sure that Government Works for us, then were stuck with running elections before fixing the real problem. Host edward was addressing you there. Guest and i will say that im an infrastructure guy. I love how Government Works. I find it to be a fascinating topic. I actually occasionally run a blog on that topic. Part of the issue for governing at the moment has been the gridlock in congress that makes it impossible to have meaningful review of Government Agency programs. So it used to be that there was a system every year you would begin appropriating for the following Year Congress would begin having hearings on programs, discussing what is working and not working reviewing those programs and then passing detailed laws that go through the government cutting funding for things they dont care about any more, increasing funding for things we care about more. That process is basically dead. For the most part now they just reappear at the end of the year at a mad scramble. The built by half a dozen people silting in a room for three or four days of allnighters and they produce a bill and goes home. So we have lost the ability to manage really carefully manage the way our government operates. And that is the blame of both parties is probably partly the blame of the white house as well as the congress. The fact of the matter is our government runs largely at this moment on band aids, string, and bailing wire. And its not good for any of us. Host in the few minutes we have left we should note some of the editorial boods of newspapers around the country releasing their endorsements in the last days of the 2014 cycle. The leader Editorial Board out of south dakota. The independent candidate. A reminder that Georgia Senate debate is happening today after the show at 11 00 here on cspan. Michelle nun the democrat and republican david perdue. Lets gro to sterling in st. Louis, missouri. Caller good morning. My issue is that if we want to be a nation based upon truth and success, first of all we have to be truthful. Everyone is in it for themselves. People vote on issues that reinforce their personal beliefs. So if you want to make a lot of money, then youre republican because you go for the big machine. If you are a democrat you virtually believe in the people. But the problem is that once they getheheine then they start stealing. So nobody is concerned about the people. The people dont mind if you wear nice suits and play to be astute and go to these universities that teach you how to steal from the people and the loopholes because you are transparent to us. We see right through you. Host abby, can you talk about that frustration and how youve seen it. Guest it was interesting. It wasnt necessarily on the cam pape trail but this week i called one of my democratic sources and said is the there going to be an incumbent that loses that were not expecting . Are we going to be surprised . And my sewers said absolutely source said absolutely. And that incumbents, what is going to shock people who are even in safe districts is they are going to see the lowest vote totals theyve ever seen in their careers. That fewer people are going to vote for incumbents than ever before. And eist just a reflection of the anger of this caller of the voters across the country. That theres just disillusionment. I assume it goes back to the economic crisis to the wars in iraq. But its just a sadness, frustration, anger that the American People feel towards the people they vote for. Host and paul singer, a not 2014 question for you but in the last two minutes, i want to give you a few minutes for jim traffic cant, a former member of congress from 1985 to 20 2002 that you covered closely. The last time you were on the show. And youve written a few stories about the congressional career and your time following jim traffic nt. Guest you know, he was an interesting guy. He was a very blustery former sheriff. Cleaned up the mob out of youngstown. But he also represented an area that and i mean to cast no aspersions on youngstown. He came from an area where a certain amount of petty crime was kind of assumed in politics. And traffic cant ultimately first beat the rap on a charge that he was taking bribes from the mob. And then the Second Time Around was convicted on charges of taking bribes essentially from contractors in his district. And he went to jail. There was a funny thing about him is that there was no doubt he was corrupt. He was taking kickbacks from his staff literally making them pay him back. But he had this extraordinarily kind streak towards the underdog. He would walk into a courthouse and bluster about im going to kick their butts. And then he would turn to the Security Guard how are you going . Everything going all right . Good. And take off his metal things. He would pat the court artist on the back. There was a fundamental gentleness in jim that i thought people missed. And they missed it in part because he was intentionally trying to cover it. He was trying to make it about the bluster not about the fundamental love for the people. At the same time, he was colorful, hetches corrupt and he went to jail and i think he probably deserved it. Host there was more to jim than met the eye. If you want to read that at u. S. A. Todays website. The politics edthere there. Abby with roll call. We appreciate your time this morning. Up next we will discuss voter targeting in the age of the Digital Campaign with two Political Consultants o who specialize in new media. And later well open up the phones to our viewers for the campaign 2014 issues that you want to talk about. Well be right back. Monday night on the communicators, author and former chief technical officer under president obama. If theres one message in the book to take away its the notion that an innovative state is characterized by hand handshakes and handoffs. And this speaks to your question as to who should do what. The hand handshakes are what washingtons been doing lately maybe behind the curtain and not as well reported in the media, which is shaking hands on some of the key principles on a state opening up data encouraging collaboratives who work around standards issuing challenges and so forth. That means that the opportunity to have a more open government starts with a bipartisan commitment to lay that foundation. But whats critical in an innovative state is that youre handing off to the American People entrepreneurs and innovators in the public, private, academic, federal, state, and local levels of government, to take that raw data and build more interesting products and services. Monday night at 8 00 eastern. The cspan cities tour takes book tv and American History tv on the road traveling to u. S. Cities to learn about their history and literary life. This weekend we partners with comcast for a visit to Colorado Springs, colorado. In 1806 Montgomery Pike was sent into the american southwest to explore the region. Very similar to lewis and clark who were sent to the northwestern part of the newly acquired louisiana territory. Pike was sent to this southwest part of the territory. And from his perspective, when he came out here, he really walked off the map. He went to an area that was unknown. When pike first sees the peak, he thinks he will reach the top of it in just a few days but really takes weeks to approach. They reach what we believe is a Lower Mountain on the flanchingse of pikes peak called mount rosa. So they turned around and at that point pike wrote in his journals that given the conditions, given the equipment that they had at the time, no one could have summitted the peak. Pikes peak inspired the poem that became america the beautiful written by catsdz Lynn Lee Bates who came here to Colorado Springs to teach a summer course at Colorado College in 1893. And the view down to the plains from the top of the mountain inspired the poetry and inspired the images that are captured in that poetry of the United States. Watch all of our events from Colorado Springs today at 2 00 astern on cspan. Throughout campaign 2014 cspan has brought you more than 130 candidate debates from across the country in races that will determine control of the next congress. And this tuesday night watch cspans live Election Night coverage to see who wins, who loses, and which party will control the house and senate. Our coverage begins at 8 00 p. M. Eastern with the results and analysis. Youll also see candidate victory and concession speeches in some of the most closely watched senate races across the country throughout the night and into the morning we want to hear from you with your calls Facebook Comments and tweets. Campaign 2014 Election Night overage on cspan. Washington journal continues. Host and michael is the cofounder of the republican Technology Company targeted victory. And jim is ceo of ds political a digital firm that works with democrats. Mr. Walsh we are now into what sed to be called the 72 hour phase. How has technology changed how that effort goes in this day and age . Guest well, the reality is in the last 48 hours, 72 hours as you said, the key right now is reaching voters by any means necessary. Whether that means knocking on doors, by making phone calls. Well, this year and 2012 as a matter of fact the ability of matching a voter file with an online cookie pole allows to target voters using Digital Advertising to turn those voters out too. And we can get those out in an hour. Host help with that. Guest so when you browse the internet oftentimes youre shopping for shoes or cars. Youll suddenly see ads for shoes or cars anywhere you go. If you go to Barack Obamas website youll also see ads for the Democratic Party for barack obama. Thats because cookies exist in your browser. Web sites can place a pixle on your browser and as a result we can serve ads almost anywhere you go nfment this case gotv adds. Host mr. Beach this headline from the Las Vegas Sun this cycle. Its as i mazing what political candidates know about you. What is the information that candidates are looking for from voters this guest a lot of it is public information. Its been around for a long time. So if you register to vote or not, if you live in a state that has Party Registration whether you register republican or democrat. What elections you vote in. Really that information is compiled into a profile of whun whats the likely amount of turnout in elections . And then from there you can bill back and develop a vote or really figure out how many votes will it take to win this election and how many people do i have to talk to . Are host when a voter has somebody to knock on the door with an ipad in their hand what is the information that the campaigns are using to knock on your door . Guest really, any publicly available information. Voter registration status. In terms of an offline contact like that where you go into a voters household a lot of times compiled with consumer data and predictive aplitics that has grown in taking that information to predict who your target audience is whether its for persuasion or turnout. And really how do you know the right target. Host how do you predict voter behavior . What are the metrics . Guest well, its a very tough question to answer. There are hundreds of rows of information about every single voter that lots of firms in washington throughout the country use to figure that out. One firm call catalyst will actually gather not just voter data. So theres a registered voters in individual states, but magazine subscriptions, previous voting behavior. All that in one place. And then create predictive models from those. Host were talking with Michael Beach of targeted victory. And jim walsh another consultant that works in the Technology Field. Were talking about voter turnout. I want to get your questions and comments in these last couple of days of the 2014 cycle to talk about voter turpout. How it happens and how technology plays a role. Our guests are here to answer your questions and comments. Mr. Walsh, how much should voters assume that campaigns are monitoring their social media pages, facebook page, twitters pages . Guest its a very difficult job but campaigns have stepped up to the challenge. There are all sorts of tools available in the private space also in the political space allow you to track trends at the very least. And certainly almost every campaign now has someone who is monitoring their twitter feed, monitoring facebook feed every minute. Host and mr. Beach on monitoring not only their own twitter and facebook feed but also potential voters twitter and facebook feeds. Guest social media is really a leading indicator of where the conversation is going. I think a lot of campaigns have been monitoring the aggot level for years now how that conversation is shaping up. Really now theyre also figuring out who is talking about them or the right issues because those are really good voters to reach out to to build your coalition. Host heres a story in todays Washington Post by george will. He writes i assume you dont appreciate a comparison to tamni hall guest no. Every election is determined by a few points. Incredibly close elections all over the country especially this year the reality is being able to taylor your messages to a specific audience takes a lot of work and Technology Helps us do that. I wouldnt say that that process necessarily relates to tamni hall in any real way, i believe, i would say that having the ability of targeting voters that are potentially swing voters or folks actually your group of voters that you want to turn out makes it better for a democracy for people to participate. Again, campaigns all they want people to do is go to the polls and vote for who they believe in host how much of a Campaign Budget is directed specifically for these get out the vote, the last 7b2 hours or some have said it should be 720 hours . Guest i would say that the last three months of a campaign are devoted as george mentioned to either persuasion or geotv. In the last 72 hours i would say at least 30 of that is devoted to geotv. And its not the last 72 hours. Its the last week and sometimes a mix of persuasion and geotv. But right now youre seeing people knocking on doors, making phone calls 679 hundreds of thousands, millions of phone calls. And serving millions of ads. Host who does it better republicans or democrats . Guest i think its a little different for both. I think theres probably parity in the turnout i think that if anything the kind of democrat operation has been modeled off what we did in 2004 and 2006. I think the one advantage you look at turnout like a 38 priority just because of early vote at this point 16 Million People have already cast their ballot nationwide. Really also Voter Registration kind of building the pool of eligible voters and voter identification which is going to people you dont know enough information about to turn out 57ped figure if you can move them into your column or not. That actually could be a oneor twoyear process. Host we would be interestd in hearing our viewer stories about voter Contact People coming by your house with these eye pads and cell phones and what they say to you and your experience. Our phone lines are open. The numbers are on the bottom of your screen. Mr. Walsh, i want to give you a chance to answer that question of which party does it better. Guest i tend to believe the democrats do a much better job. There are a number of reasons. Our technology is centralized. Eres firms out there like ngp van makes sure every campaign will have its voter file in one data base as well as tools enable them to do door knocking to make phone calls to do digital 50d ver tiesing. So having that centralized data base not just of the technology but also the data base itself with all the previous voting behavior allows it to be a lot more efficient 6789 and then with mobile avepes now allows it to beam information directly back to the same data base and have in realtime updates of which way votors is going to go. Host unless you want to jump in. Guest i would say turnout plays a really big role in mid term because we have millions of voters that we have confident, supported. One of our candidates in 2012 that wont cast a ballot this year they create an audience that geotv has an impact on. Host lets talk to some of that audience. Way. You are directing the adat a bloc of voters. It could be republicans or independent that live in a given district. To jims point, you took at television advertising, right now, 80 of the broadcast advertising since labor day has gone into the wrong congr Congressional District because they are not matched up with political districts. So geographically alone, it means that voters who dont even have the legal ability to vote arent seeingmentaling for those cam pangs. Does that mean television. Are going to go the way of the dinosaur . I think adjustable advertising is probably a longterm end point for that but optimized linear buying is the phase we are in next. Margaret is up next, ardmore, oklahoma on our line for republicans. Good morning, margaret. Caller good morning. I cant believe that we hear about this socalled war on women when there is a war on warriors. I am military. Benghazi, tamarisi left to rot. They are sent to africa where ebola could kill them all. Then they are fired. I dont know if most people know this. Fox tells it, fired in the field in afghanistan. How would you like to get a pink slip while you are fighting the enemy. Host we are talking about get out the vote efforts and the final 72 hours of the campaign. We will open up our phones at about 9 30 or so to talk about any Campaign Issues that you want to talk about. So maybe a good time then to talk about and bring out some of those issues. But we have two experts in the Technology Field to talk about get out the vote. We will go to kevin in philadelphia, pennsylvania on our line for democrats. Kevin, good morning. Caller montgomery. Host turn down your t. V. And go ahead with your question or comment. Caller i just wanted to talk a little bit about the voter turnout. I thought that the i just thought that the method that president obama used in his voting tactic in terms of getting all of his people together on the computer in a computerized system really worked well for the democrats over the last voting trimester. Host mr. Wolfe, can you talk about history of this effort to Bring Technology to this stage of the Campaign Game . Absolutely. Mike will tell you this as well. The reality is that some of the technologies that allow you to match a voter to an online profile really were so expensive in 2008 and 2012 that local candidates really didnt have the opportunity of being able to use them. Unfortunately, because of firms like my own, we have been is able to monetize that technology for local candidates in a way that allows us to revise that level of granularity to local races to the u. S. Senate campaigns. Does your firm and ds political do this different, or are you both doing the same thing when it comes to these efforts . I agree with jim. Both firms our firm has city council races, county recorder races, elections that continue afford to really, you know, individually buy that technology before aggreg gated as software can utilize it today. Hundreds or thousands of dollars . 500 is the entry point . We are at 500, also am it is sort of amazing to think of this technology from an efficiency standpoint. The reality is local campaigns have so little money to actually reach voters with. Right . They dont get the millions of dollars to be able to run a t. V. Campaign. Sometimes they cant even do a direct mail campaign. Its just so expensive. Being able to reach voters with online media thats so much less expensive is a real boon. Numbers on Campaign Spending on Digital Advertising by cycle, in 2012, 159 million spent on Digital Advertising. This according to a recent article in the la time project they could year, 271 million spent on Digital Advertising and for 2016, the expectation is nearly a billion dollars spint on Digital Advertising. We are talking about that field and get out the vote efforts. I want to hear your stories in our last half hour of this segment. Jill is up next, land on lakes. Good morning, jill. Caller hi. I have a question. Your guest indicated and from phone calls my family has received, that somehow people know who people are voting for. I would like to know how they know people what people people are voting for and arent ballots supposed to be secret . And isnt that illegal . At the end of the day, no one knows who you are going to vote for. The way campaigns typically identify is they will make a phone call to a house. Them knock on a door and ask a volume you know tear to ask tu, you know, who your voter preference is. But then there are also predictive models where if, you know, perhaps you have received a phone call from a campaign asking what your opinion on an issue is, because your opinion on a specific issue, there can be some Predictive Value to that information that allows you to decide which way a person is going to vote. Mr. Beach did you want to jump in . Yeah. Its really likelihood. What campaign feels your likelihood to support the ccand is. Resources are so limited, you want to spend them on who they are persuadable. At the ends of the day, you have no idea. The folavorite distinction o the political hack is between the privacy of your vote and the privacy that you vote. Modern politics is heavily dependent on knowing how often you make it to the polls, driving poll, and i have beens creasingly direct ways to get you to the polls. The difference between that you vote and who you vote for, the distinction there. Sean up next in illinois on our line for republicans. Sean, good morning. Coup caller good morning. Companies like you guys, they seem to know so much about each voter down to very, you know, intricate parts of their lives and so forth. Why cant you guys and firms like you figure out who has already voted so, therefore, that individual does not have to be barraged 24 7 ads whether it be through mail or so forth. If you could do that, you could safe your clients fortunate. Thank you very much. Mr. Walsh, i agree with you. Campaigns should be identified who is voting early. They do have the ability typically, depends upon your state and your locality. But they usually do make those public records available to cross you off of the list so to speak. Unfortunately, if you are experiencing an inundation and being inyou know dated with telephone calls, its probably because whatever campaign is not doing its job as e firnlt as possible. How does ds political do it . We match voter files with browser cook i recognize a and anonymize. We match before the election and takes out the early voters. Is that how you do it at targeted victory . Yeah. We work with a data trust on the republican side and, you know, we pull a data trust . An organization on the republican side that am, you know, basically houses the partys voter information and collecting information by state is one of their key responsibilities. The 16 million who have voted we have in our system and are taking out of the universes. On the line for the democrats. Caller good morning. First i have to say about cspan. I have watched cspan for over 25 years, but now cspan has dropped any pretense of being impartial. I ha you have become a republican. You have two republicans on this morning. Now, you have two republicans right now. Host i think you missed our introduction. Mr. Walsh works for a democratic firm, democratic Technology Firm and our Previous Panel were two journalists who cover politics. But i promise you, if you go to our website and look through our segments on cspan on the washington journal, we try to be balanced. Caller i wash every day so i dont need to go back and look. But my question is supposed these people where do they get their funds from . That person thats supposedly to be a democratic person . No. Host how do your organizations get money . I promise you i worked in Democratic Politics for almost 20 years at this point. And our firm, ds political only works with progressive candidates and Democratic Candidates. So, i assure you if they are ads from our firm, its for a democrat. It we are a private company. We actually bootstrapped ours. Our entire stoof actually worked in Democratic Politics for a combined 40 years. You know, we all used to do door knocks, recruit volunteers for campaigns. And i think it actually takes a sensitivity to Democratic Campaigns and Democratic Candidates and the democratic constituency to be able to serve candidates the proper ways even with new technologies. Whats the ballpark budgeted to do what you guys do each cycle . Well, i mean this is expensive stuff. So being able to have the right partnerships means that, you know, its in the millions. Miles per hour beach as well . Yeah. We were a partisan technology on the right side similar to jims company on the left that only serves candidates on the right. And again, its taking millions of dollars of Technology Development and getting it down to ballots where thousands of cam pages can use it host jason in arlington, virginia, just across the Potomac River from us. On our line for indents. Good morning. Caller hey, guys. I am not an independent. I am a libertarian. I recommend that cspan change one of their phone numbers to libertarian because as long as they keep putting out the republican democrat choice of lesser of two evils thing, the democratic process so to speak is going to be retarded by the ability of the voter not to understand whats going on. My best example of this is in all of the debates pretty much across the entire country, the debate hurdles for whatevertibility candidates have been in a debate, adrian riley, in 2006, to be in the debates, he would have had to pull 7 . This time, its 15. Rob harver in virginia, it was 10 when he ran for governor a year ago. This year, its, uhoh, 15. So whats going on across is both republicans and democrats can agree on one thing, in a prochoice democrat and a freemarket republican, the one thing they always agree on is nobody gets the stage but them and you will have the same interventionist Foreign Policy decriminalization stuff kept off of the discussion. Host jason, in arlington virginia, where does a thirdparty candidate go if they are looking for these Digital Tools that you two do for the democratic side and the republican side . Our opinion at ds political is that its important to have a partisan bent because, you know, again, when we are placing the buy, we need to be able to trust that you are not telling some other candidate running against you or that, you know, exactly where we are doing that media buying because thats a tactical decision we are helping our clients make. To be honest with you, i dont know the answer to that question. Any thoughts . Yeah, or firms are intbuilt o Party Infrastructure whether its data or modeling or return data that, you know, working for one side or the other makes much sense. Talking new technology, twitter from michael which of the new media do you see as coming of age Going Forward to the 2016 election . Mobile. Mobile advertising is the order of the day, both in 2014 an especially in 2016. The ability of lets think about it. When you walk into the booth, whats the one thing you are carrying with you . You get past the voting booth. The reality is, its going to be your mobile device the. Even if you are standing in line this am coming tuesday waiting to vote, you are strolling through, you know, facebook or what not, hopefully, a campaign is going to have the ability of serving you an adat that time. I think in 2016, with the explosion of mobile devices, which pretty much everybody has at this point, thats going to be critical to identifying im sorry. Reaching out to voters in a granular way at the last minute and throughout the year during persuasion. Mr. Beach, whats coming down the pike . Yeah. Mobile p 5 of our buy in stwooel audience based upon mobile. 20 this year. The impact on the campaign, its going to be television. Television is 80 of the Campaign Budget in most cases. Its arguable, the most efficiently. Reggie on the line for republicans. Good morning. Caller good morning. I was wondering what you gentlemen thought about the last minute ads and flyers, and i believe at least in North Carolina and georgia where there has just been some major release where they are talking about trayvon marchton and another ferguson if you dont vote and, then, also in florida, the receipt ors association has put onat adsay we know whether or not you are voted and next time we will tell your neighbors wheth whether you voted. Host mr. Walsh, these efforts to get out the vote . Unfortunately, sometimes, you know, geo t. V. Efforts can equate to Voter Suppression efforts, especially in areas where there is sort of a racial bent to the campaign. Hopefully, most campaigns are spending the majority of their geo t. V. Budgets in a positive way to get their voters out. For instance, the gs political, most are going towards strong democrats we know for a fact that they are patrol going to vote democrat, and we will serve them ads as much as we can. Host mr. Beach, your thoughts on whats sometimes called a vote shaming. Here is that piece from the fix in the Washington Post. They talk about this letter, Democratic Party of new york reading in part, as well be reviewing the New York County official rovoting records after the upcomingly to determine whether you join your neighbors who voted in 2014. If you do not vote this year, we will be interested to hear why not. What do you make of some of those campaigns . The academics, a lot of those are done by university studies. This year,home, they will publish results when they are done. Both sides right now have millions of voters. Again, that vote in 2012 that, you know, we need to get to the polls in 2014. Thats really our focus at this point. Juan up next. On our line for democrats. Juan, good morning. Caller good morning. Host go ahead, juan. Caller yes. I would like to know host host turn down your t. V. And go ahead with your question. Caller why the spanish in america are getting discriminated. We are chicanos, latinos, mexicans and hispanic. We are americans. The white house doesnt even know about it. And we dont know how to get vote or who to vote because there is too many people coming to this country and we dont have a stop. You ask for ids. Make a new law for three ids, a birth certificate, a picture id, and a birth certificate. Host juan in pike creek, texas. Do you want to talk about how do you about tracking voters in the digital age along racial or along ethnic lines . The hispanic vote is incredibly important this year. You have wendy davis up in texas. Incredibly important to get out the hispanic voter, especially in places like that. Using offline data like you would for, say, a piece of mail to a specific household, it is possible to use that same data to the identify hispanics online and serve as, you know, where they are probably browsing. So being able to identify that offline makes it much easier to identify on line. Mr. Beach, did you have anything to add . Yeah, probably one of the best digital efforts is the campaign in texas, a huge race on both sides. It really is taking data, you know, to reach voters and, you know, whether its the language that they are, you know, most a customed to using or what the targeting says is an important thing because you have multiple blocks of voters that you cant putting a Winning Coalition together without. Host 2 comments on the same topic on twitter. When i get robo calls, i get enraged at being invaded and hold it against the candidate and the more emails i get asking for repeat donations, the more determined i am not to do it. Does that go into your al gorithim . There is something known as frequency and the idea of inundating you with political messages unfortunately is something that i nor michael will be able to control. Its going to happen. It gets annoying to receive 100 phone calls in a day or, you know, all of the various campaigns out there. What i would say is that from the point previously, targeting those specific messages to the right voters, i think, will help with this a little bit because that way, you know, we can track how much frequency you have received over time and make sure that you are only receiving the message that is relevant to you. Receiving a phone call about gun rights or marriage rights or environmental rights, these are things if you care about them, receiving a phone call to remind you to vote on tuesday might not be such a bad thing. Middle river, texas. Im sorry river river maryland. Waiting. Good morning. Are you with us . We will go on to lisa ing in shreveport, louisiana on our line for republicans. Hi, lisa. Caller yes. Can i speak with mr. Beach . I am from louisiana. And i dont appreciate the way the democrats have played out this racenism louisiana. I wanted to become independent because i dont trust either party. However, this has infuriated me in the fact that i will vote republican now. What they have done is they have done a hateful, hateful thing in louisiana. We are not this way down here. Mr. Beach, can you explain why they are doing this . Thank you for your call. Each candidates strategy, you know, i think probably in louisiana, a targeted state this year for the first time in several years its probably a different sdrat gee but i couldnt speak to why the democrats are using the messaging that they are. Mr. Walsh, did you want to jump in . I know its a topic we talked a little bit about already. I am unfamiliar with the messaging in louisiana right now but i would say that, you know, my personal belief and professional belief is that it is better for our democracy and better for elections for a message to stay as positive as possible. Thats what drives people to vote. Especially a year like this, a nonpresident ial year, we are likely to have a lower number of people voting. So anything than kurnlingz working can be very important to remember. Our line for democrats, prudence is waiting. Good morning. Caller good morning. I have been calling for moveon. Org for a couple of weeks, and i stopped the end of last week because almost everybody had already voted. And this gentleman said that you know that and take them off of the roles, but i dont think thats been the case. The only thing i have made almost 800 calls for democrats, and one of the things that bothers me is that they say everybody lies. And thats kind of upsetting. I think mark twain said something, didnt he, about politicians bending the truth. But thats upsetting. And as i say, i just got tired of telling people telling me they had already voted. And then i have to ask them who they voted for, and a lot of them say, its none of your business. Which i understand, and i just thank them for being a voter. Some people said no, they werent going to vote. Anyhow, i have had some interesting conversations but most of the time it, they hang up or you get a answers machine san host are you going to continue to make called the next two days, or are you done . Caller the only thing i am going to try to do today is get rid of Mitch Mcconnell. Prudence said she worked for moveon. Org. Can you talk about moveon. Org, how it changed the fundraising game for democrats . Intlooult building off of the clintons impeachment during the 1998 organization, moveon. Org despited never again, we are never going to be cut with our pants down when it comes down to mobilizing the grassroots mobilizing organizers to be able to knock doors. It means raising money online. And so they have been very, very successful at writing emails that jon stewart spoke about, kind of making fun of. She writes on our twitter page, i had 72 political ads in my email inbox yesterday. Its a feverpaced. And all of them are trying to break through the messaging. Again, moveon. Org is one of the organizations that has been able to raise a war chest and motivate folks just like prudence to actually make those phone calls. By the way, we just say, prudence, thank you very much for your participation. 80 phone calls is nothing to sniff at, and please try to stay up when you are calling the people and they are hapnot happo receive the phone call but this is good for our democracy and you should be thanked. Mr. Breach, he was talking about the evolution for moveon. Org. What was happening at this time on the republican side in terms of Online Fundraising and using technology to leverage those interested folks . On the fundraising, its something we kind of fell behind in, you know, throughout the 2008 cycle. Now, we are following 2ing 012, all a full commitment from our National Campaigns to, you know, make this a top priority. I think you are starting to see the numbers that we are probably not in parity with the democrats in that area yet, but definitely are gaining ground. Williamstown, West Virginia dave on the line for independent. Good morning. Caller good morning. I would like to make a comment about the data mine that these two gentlemen use they dig into my background they inaskedveyed my privacy and do this without compensating me. Then they use that data to call me at inconvenient times for me, and i do vote early. So the calls are a waste of my time. I do track who calls me the most, and i vote for the person who calls me the least. So they are defeating what they are trying to set out for this one voter. Host mr. Wolfe, whats your response to dave . Dave, i completely understand. Thats why i am not in the business of doing phone calls. I do Digital Advertising that targets specific groups of voters with messages where they are already browsing. So, for instance, if you were if you were online and you were shopping for something online or you were just reading the news, chances are, if you were a targeted voter of one of our cam pangs, we would be serving you an adwhere you were going to go anyway. So the experience is not quite as intrusive, we hope. And we found that to be true as well. But again, its something that allows you to have that message tailored to the issues you care about host mr. Beach, do dave and others like dave deserve to be compensated for all of the information that groups like your two groups are finding out about them . I think really its in both campaigns interest to be as efficient as possible. So by not, you know, we dont want to call people at inconvenient times. We want really every call, every door knock and every adto be as effective as possible the probably the evolution of tactics has not gotten to the point where, you know, we are not missing votes sometimes but we want to be as efficient as possible and every impact have an impact. Host lets go to phil on our line for republicans in gaithersburg. My question has to do with voter fraud. What is going to try to be done to make sure that doesnt happen such as recently in an election in the philadelphia area, 112 of the democrats voted democrat. I dont know how that could happen. And, also, without a single republican vote. And reports of machines automatically converting republican votes to democratic votes so whats going to be done about that and how can we make sure that all of the votes are honest some . Thank you. Host mr. Walsh, your area of us expertise . I can comment. My experience has been that typically, you know, any laws to supposedly stop voter fraud are often masking preventing people from vote. Thats not to say voter fraud isnt something we should absolutely Pay Attention to but the reality is, i would say that, you know, talk to anyone in florida in 2000 and ask them if they didnt think republicans should be accused of voter fraud as well. Its something that plagues, i think, our entire system, but at the same time, needs to be viewed through a prism of making sure that eligible voters, no matter what, can vote as easy as possible while at the same time, making sure we are looking out for voter fraud. Mr. Beach, i will give you frank who is waiting up in new york on our line for democrats. Good morning, frank. Mr. Beachs response to that previous question first . Sure. Mr. Beach, on the issue of voter fraud. Out of my expertise. I would, you know, invite the caller to contact their secretary of state and find out where their laws are at. Do you have a question, frank . Caller i was wondering how the ex treming gerrymandering impacts their work and do they expect the 5 million votes greater in the house for democrats but yet still with a republican controlling the house host mr. Beach, on how the districts are drawn. Yeah, i am not an expert. Host will it impact your work in how you target them online . You end up with fewer competitive districts in the country. I think like california, where, you know, the ballots of democrat districts is definitely out of whack with the portion of republican voters, fewer districts are really in play. So the turnout is really drich driven up in target districts across the country on both sides. You dont see resources going in to districts that are 10 or 20s point victories for one side or the other. Landsown, claud. Caller good morning. Host hot go ahead caller i would like to know how we as voters can reverse the concept of the Koch Brothers financing our republican partners so they can have the money to give their perspective without us as democrats having equal amount of money to finance our perceptions because perception is reality. And being that we are getting all of these false perceptions and the brother knows that they are killing us with their money. Host mr. Walsh, on the money battle. Yeah. There was a Washington Post article a couple of days ago that even mention did that the Koch Brothers had been allowing aggregating this voter data and making it available to Third Party Groups as well. Its like a democracy line doing something similar. The reality is that the influx of money from the Koch Brothers and other of their ilk has been incredibly disturbing this election cycle and makes it very difficult for the average citizen to run for office and avoid that kind of influence from outside. What i do hope that firms like ds political are doing with, again, ourselfserve tool as democratic ads. Com is to make it possible for joe citizens to run for Office Without the impact of really fight the impact of all of the outside money coming in and connect with voters in a way that makes it relevant to them in a way they will come to the polls regardless of the amount of money being spent on the other side host i want to get you both to respond. Is the new medium we are using to communicate with voters changing the message that we otherwise that candidates would otherwise send to those voters . I think it makes it much easier to be able to figure out what message you should be using. The great thing about online generally is you can interaction with the ads, themselves, through video completion rates with prerole video, we can grind down to what message it is each specific voter is interested in hearing. Mr. Beach, on the message in the medium. A news article in the New York Times to discuss this. We look at it like big data and small content. Really, the ability to target any kind of, you know, slice your audiences up into pieces has out paced our ability to develop content for those aw audienc audiences. We are delivering a broadcast message to smaller chunks of people but we havent gotten to where we are producing, you know dozens of pieces of contents at a time to reach each one of those groups. Michael beach with targeted victory, the cofounder there. Its targeted victory. Org and jim walsh is with ds political, the ceo. We appreciate your time this morning. Thank you. And up next, we are going to open the phones up to you to talk about any of the issues you want to talk about in the final days of the 2014 election and speaking of the final day of the 2014 election, Election Night coverages begins on cspan, live coverage starts at 8 00 p. M. We will talk about who wins, who loses, which party is in control of congress. You can talk about the Election Results by phone, by twitter, by email or join us on facebook. Com cspan. Monday night on the communicators, chief tech nick cal officer under president obama. If there is one message in the book to take away, its the notion that an in0 vein state is characterized by handshakes and handoffs. This speaks to your question as to who should do what. The handshakes are what washington has been doing lately, maybe behind the curtain and not as well reported in the media, which is shaking hands on some of the key principles of an innovative state, opening up data, work run standards . Issuing challens and so forth. Means that the opportunity to have a more open government starts with a bipartisan commitment to lay that foundation. But whats critical is that you are handing off to the American People, proounz and invade orders, academic, federal, state levels of government to take that raw data and have more interesting products and services. Monday night at 8 eastern on the communicators on cspan 2. Throughout campaign 2014, cspan has brought you more than 130 candidate debates from across the country in races that will determine control of the next congress and this tuesday night, watch cspans live Election Night coverage to see who wins, who loses and which party will control the house and senate. Our coverage begins at 8 00 p. M. Eastern with results and analysis. You will also see candidate victory an concession speeches in some of the most closely watched senate races across the country. Throughout the night and into the morning, we want to hear from you with your calls, Facebook Comments and tweets. Campaign 2014 Election Night coverage on cspan. Washington kwurnl continues. In our last 25 minutes or so on the washington journal this morning, we are opening up our phones to you, our viewersjourn. In our last 25 minutes or so on the washington journal this morning, we are opening up our phones to you, our viewers. Candidates you want to discuss. Phone calls are open. Democrats call at republicans independe independent catch up with us on twitter, facebook or shoot us an email journal at cspan. Org. We want to get to as many calms and comments in our last 20 minutes to lead into this discussion. I want to show you the front page again of the washingtwash post drama in the home stretch is the headline there. G. O. P. Closes in on Senate Control. But race may not end on election day. Also, on the page 2 of the Washington Post today is dan ballss column, a Political Columnist for the Washington Post you, the sunday take is his column, an election about rejection is the headline of his piece towed today. He writes who controls the senate is not the only or even the overriding question on the minds of many voters. For them, this campaign is as much about disgust with washington generally and about trying to bang the political process toward come pet events and results as it is about punishing or rewarding a particular party. He goes on to write whatever the final outcome, it will be difficult for the winners to claim that the voters game they have them an affirmative endorsement or provided them with a clear mandate. Most americans say they dont think either the president or Congressional Republicans about coherent plans for governing. Love to hear your thoughts on that column or any of the Campaign Issues or candidates you want to talk about in the last 20 minutes or so. Phone lines and mapping the midterm graphics from the Washington Post laying out the key races, the key battles, specifically in the senate and the Gubernatorial Races. In the senate, those key races, colorado featuring mark udall and cori gardner. Kansas featuring pat roberts and independent greg orman. In iowa, bruce brailey, republican joni ernst and on to kentucky, New Hampshire, vans, arkansas, louisiana, georgia, and North Carolina. Those are the races that will decide control of the senate. The battlefield upon which the two parties are battling for control of the senate. Lets get to your comments, your thoughts in your last 20 minutes. David is in plymouth dmierth line a on the line for republicans. David, good morning. Caller good morning. I was wanting to comment on the Voter Suppression problem we have down here in North Carolina. They havent implemented all of it. Even the idea of some people thinking there is a process denying them the right to vote makes people not wanting to go to the polls. Most time in a minority community, highimpact community, there are an issue with discrimination and there is very difficult for some people to understand how that process works. But it does exist. It does happen. I worked for the civil rights movement, getting people to vote ever since the early 60s when i was in high school. In North Carolina, the processs has not changed. But of course, we are Getting Better at it. So we are continuing to move forward and become better citizen citizens, better voters. David, you are calling in on your line for republicans. Is there one party you are more concerned about when it comes to this issue . Oh, yes. Definitely the Republican Party because what happened is if we continue to shift votes from the minority communities or the communities of color into other parties, whether it be independent or liberal parties, then thats going to continue to deteriorate that party. And so we want to because my goal has always been and i believe more minorities ought to be in both parties. There needs to be the split so you can understand from which side or the other that people are friendly or what ideals people are looking forward to. So that way, we can develop a multicultural environment that we look for in america. Host david in ply moth it North Carolina. On the same topic bowl year and newhouse are at a consulting firm, a research firm, Public Opinion strategies of the they have a piece in the opinion section of the Washington Post today, what takings senate does and doesnt do for the g. O. P. Among the things that doesnt mean is that the democrats have solved the g. O. P. Market problem, they write winning in a nonpresident ial turnout year when older and whiter voters make up a larger percentage of the electorate should convince no one that we fix our basic shortfalls with key electric groups, including minorities and Younger Voters and among the other things that the republican g. O. P. Senate takeover would not mean according to the two of them, even though president obama is significantly less popular than he was two years ago the g. O. P. Is not well to capital besides their image has gotten worse since 2012. In the most recent nbc newswall street journal poll, half of respondents had a negative image of the Republican Party. Only the fourth time that it has occurred in the past six years. Reminder to tuesdays winners. Threatening i am peoplement or shutting down the federal government doesnt endear you to middle america. Henry, good morning. Caller good morning. Good morning to you. I would like to do two quick things. First t i would like everybody to google james chao, chhao and the ping may, piing and ma may. Why is that . The media has gone too far in its control of information and what it will and will not allow the people, the voters to know google those two things. Now, i like to talk about the most dangerous threat to our m democracy today. Republicans are the ones who shut down the government, costing us 24,000,000,000. Republicans are the party who threatened the full faith and credit of the United States government. Republicans are the ones who are suppressing the vote, not making it easier for us to vote. Republicans are the party who are actually selling our democracy to the highest bidder, the Koch Brothers, and adelsons. The republicans are the ones who are supporting Vladimir Putin and snowden in their treason. Republicans are the party who are a danger to america. Ebola, isis, what they have in common, small government conserve testimony, the same kind that these republicans in america want you to vote for on tuesday. Heny from michigan o our line from independentments, gary is calling in. Caller good morning. I will like to talk a little bit about the veteran votes in the upcoming election. As you know, there are about 22 million veterans in this country. And you know, over the years, traditionally, the budget for the va has been cut down. Recently, it has gong up. But traditionally, its been cut and the party who has been cutting it the most has been the Republican Party and in the last 10 months with the three through congressional testimony, i am hear hearing vet transhave died because they have been waiting too long or they havent and that type of care. This is preventable national desgrace. Situate something that can be dealt with and resolved. I am curious what i missed wrj if they talked about veterans but the veterans and their organizations are basically organizing saying these are the people who have supported us and these are those who have not and will do the same when it comes up for voting. Im sorry you missed the last segment but the nice thing about the washington journal is you can catch it online at cspan. Org. Thanks for calling in. Check out the website as well if you want to relive any of the debates, 100 debates we have covered on cspan this cycle. Lets go to clara during open phones calling in from deal, maryland on our line for republicans. Good morning, claire. Caller hello host hi caller how are you host go ahead. Caller i live in maryland. I am concerned about the u. S. And the crooks that run our currents tree now the taxes they have put on us. If my husband and i didnt own so Many Properties have so muchn invested in maryland been here all of our lives, i would relieve tomorrow. We are so over taxed that i dont care how much money you have when you retire, there is no way you can live in the state of maryland. If brown gets in there, i am atruck driver frayed we are downhill completely. We need a turnaround. The worsts part about the state of maryland and the United States government is we have too many people on welfare, too much giveaway like they want to send fouryearolds to school. Fouryearolds belong home with their parents taking care of them. Host clara calling in, the front page of the Baltimore Sun out of maryland. Experts say the key for both candidates isnt wooing more voters but getting them to the polls, talking about the Gubernatorial Race in maryland. Supporters are set. Voters are not. The story notes at this point, it can come down to the candidates versus the couch. Political professionals say most voters already know whether they support larry hogan or Anthony Brown in tuesdayss election for governor. The question is whether they will actually vote. The key to victory for both men, experts say is getting their many they may not bother people to make the effort. Headlines about the upcoming, the Traverse City eagle points for action. Ly officials prepare for improved turnout despite poor weather outlook up in michigan. The latin 0 vote is is the story, a strong democratic nationally but millions choose not to cast ballots talking about areas of california calling the latino vote the swe Sleeping Giant in some of the california races. Don on the line for democrats. On the washington journal. Caller when Corporate Leaders come together with political leaders and with national extremism, thats massism providetized thats what the senator is doing. He forced detroit and gave him 30 million in a bankruptcy to make him deal with the state. They took that ill. They took it and they are going to make an apartment complex for the rich there and gave them a tax break for 75 years there and took our assets. Took the assets from detroit. The thing is, we have to know that the voices behind it. The first meeting there and jeb bush standing right next to them. Another of the other states worried about it. I know the bushes privatized but the thing is, we have to know that this what its about host don in taylor, a programming note in about 10 minutes on newsmakers this week. Campaign campaign, the Cook Political Report and to you rothlinberg discuss whether we will know which party wins control of the senate on tuesday night. I probably will. What you come to find as you get into Election Night and you are watching both the exit polls and the candidates and the Congressional Districts doesnt have to be the senate races but as you see these races start to break, you usually all break one way. You will see an outlier here and there but most of the closest races break for one party or the other. I with a . Iowa. Yeah. Dont you think we will know by North Carolina . If we could. North carolina, yeah. Even one of those goes. If North Carolina goes. I think thats a good indicate colorado will go. I with a will go and all of the others will. Yeah. 50 to 48. Landrieu would be 51. Control louisiana. That would be a terrible position. I think we will have a good idea. I think she had take it. Absolutely. And marylandrew would not go down without a fight. Yeah, swinging. House, senate, accurarepubli who has run the best campaign . Who has had the Worst Campaign . . Easiest to do the worsts campaign. Look. The pat Roberts Campaign up until the last Perdue Campaign is a big in part the candidate as much as campaign. I think stu is right when you look at some of these democratic races. Qui hagan has done a fantastic job. Thats somebody at the beginning of this year, we would have put her at the top of the list, most likely on Election Night. A freshman, not very well known. Its a tough state. I think shes done quite well. All right. Gardner. I echo pat roberts is the worst and i think the two best are mike begich and corei gardner. See that entire interview coming up at 10 00 this morning and again, its 6 00 p. M. Later today. Hear it on cspan radio and newsmakers is Available Online at cspan. Org. They were talking about there what happens after election day. Here is a story from the hill newspaper, lawyers braced for election battles. Candidates from alaska to eyewa are preparing legal teams in case tight election battles go into overtime potentially prolonging the battle for Senate Control indefinitely. New voter laws, razor thin margins and high stakes nationwide have increased the likelihood of challenges that could drag on for weeks or months. Thats the story in the hill newspapered if you want to read about what happens after tuesday, but we want to hear from viewers on your thoughts on cam payne. Cathy in new york. Thanks for waiting caller good morning. I i am watching the show and the come brothers but nothing is ever said about george soros, Michael Bloomberg, the billionaire thats giving all of this money to push the green agenda. You know, you act like the democrats dont have rich people in their pockets. They do. Here is the thing they want to push their agendas, especially the green agenda, but they are not going to live that lifestyle. We are. We are not going to be able to afford electric or anything else with all of these rich people wanting to push their agendas. I dont care which side they are on a lot need to go in the senate and congress on both sides. Host one issue Michael Bloomberg has been involved in is gun laws and supporting candidates who support more gun control. What do you make of that effort . Shoot caller i think he needs to go back to new york where he came from and leave us alone out here. We are out and the cops dont come that fast. Even the people in the city. You know, blood pressuring bloomberg needs to take his money and go feed his face or something. I cant stand the man. He tries to control everything. They act like they know it all, how to live our lives, what we should eat, what we should drink, what we should wear, where we should live. You have bill gates trying to take over the Education System with his push of common core. And nobody globaltize our children. Yes care about politics until i have i had two grandchildren. Now, i am very concerned about their future in this country because we are losing america. Host in pennsylvania, lets go to new york, brooklyn on our line for republicans. Kim is waiting. Kim, good morning. Caller yeah. I would just like to say that, you know, everyone talking about the political argument that i think the real problem is the size of government. Its bigger than its ever been. The debt is going up by over a trillion dollars even though they tell us the did he have the sit is only at 500,000,000,000. So there is funny business going on. I will get into the voting booth, and i have a candidate. I am not limited by two parties. I am going to vote for the candidate that i think is telling me the truth and has a plan and is going to be part of the solution, not part of what has brought us to this mess. Host all right. One piece by frank bruney in the New York Times, the pitiful whimper is the headlines of his piece. Voters abhor the status yeah. Its time for something different. One other piece about what happens after the election, doing pessimism, the headline of the lead editorial in the Washington Post. There is hope for bipartisan results in the next congress, Housing Finance reform for, for instance. If you want to read more on that t the warrant post, today, the new column they are launching beyond gridlock an occasional series on getting beyond the gridlock in washington. Awed three in louisville, kentucky. Audrey, good morning. Caller yes. I would like to talk about Mitch Mcconnell in kentucky and his views on the minimum wage. He thinks only teenagers have minimum wage jobs. I would like him to tell that to my niece and two of my nephews, one, she is in her 50s. They are in their 30s. And he thinks that they work for minimum wage because they want to. No, they dont. The ignorance of this multimultimultimillionaire is so far out that i dont know how anyone could vote for him. And i sin seely hope everyone will get up and go vote and get this man out of. He doesnt need any more money. Host audrey in louisville, kentucky, one of the key Senate Battle grounds and another key Senate Battleground in georgia as well where georgias u. S. Senate debate is happening at 11 00 a. M. We will show it here on cspan, democratnitial nunn and david perdue. Thats our show for today on the washington journal. Tomorrow, on monday, we will be joined by heidi prisbella, a congressional reporter with Bloomberg News to talk about control of congress in campaign 2014. And john della volpe joins us from Harvard Institute of politics to talk about millennial voters what and who may be up for grabs in campaign 2014. And finally, joined by steven write with the Justice Department, Voting Rights division to talk about the Justice Department monitoring of elections. Thats all. We are joined by stu rothenberg. And jeanne cummings, the Deputy Managing Editor of bloomberg politics, and Steve Diamond of the washington times. What will tuesday night look like . I wish i knew exactly the contours