Independents. We have a separate line this morning for a Illegal Immigrants, 202 5855883. You can contact us via social media. cspanwj and facebook. Com cspan. You can email, journal cspan. Org. With politico is joining us this morning. What is going on in the house of representatives. Ofst theres a little bit disarray after yesterdays vote on the border bill. House republicans spent most of the evening trying to figure out if they could get the votes in place. What votes they could get on a slightly tinkerbell. Theyre coming back this morning for a month 00 a. M. Conference meeting. They will try to get those 218 forblican to join and vote a settlement all before they leave for august recess. In sessiony stay until they get a border bill . What we guest that is are hearing. They expect to stay until there is a vote on a border supplemental bill. Host what about the senate . The senate recessed without passing their own supplemental bill. It was held up over a procedural vote where they needed 60 votes to move past it. It was the reversal. The house insisting they will stay until a pass something. Left. Nate host what does that mean . Guest there is not going to be a bill sent to the president s desk or past. He has in the senate have to Senate Something the and the house have to approve something. Has left effectively without tackling the crisis of the influx of unaccompanied minors at our southern border. Host does that mean cpb will run out of money . Guest that is what is expected. You have jeh johnson and the white house saying they might be able to fiddle with that money but or than likely it is going to be tight in the budget for dealing with judges, housing, processing for these minors. Att lauren french, to look the broader picture the to do list for the house and the by the for congress end of september and before the november elections. The highway trust fund, emergency funding for the southern border. A continuing resolution. Funding runs out for the government on september 30. The exportimport bank, extend insurance program. How much time is left . Guest there is no time left. You have house members saying you have house members staying past their august recess day. , whos that Kevin Mccarthy is now the House Majority leader, is going to cancel the last week. You have senator harry reid saying expect to work weekends, we have a lot to do. Are not many working days left before the november elections. Even before september when the government runs out of money is going to be a tight deadline. Even if they can get this done, they are going to be working nearly around the clock. Host lauren french with politico, the house is and at 10 00 a. M. Here was Kevin Mccarthys note last night. The new majority leader. Possible consideration of supplemental appropriations related to the situation along the southern border. Here is the Richmond Times r to resign from congress on august 18. Less than two months after his stunning primary upset. Just hours after stepping down, representative eric cantor said he will resign his seat i guess 18. He said he has asked Governor Terry mcauliffe to call a special election for his district that coincides with the general election on november 4. By having a special election in november, the winner would take office immediately rather than in january with the next congress. We want to talk about what the house is going to be working on today, which is the border bill. We will put the numbers on the screen if you would like to dial in. For republicans. 202 5853880 for democrats. 202 5853882 for independents. Illegal immigrants, 202 you5883 is the number for to dial in on. A call from minnesota, marie is a democrat. Caller hello. I would like to tell you my lifes journey. My father was from mexico. My father and mother. Back ine over here 1947. I was born in denver general hospital. Back then, there was a whole bunch of people coming from mexico. A whole bunch of us ended up in the Colorado State orphanage. Why . Came overr parents here and they did not take care of us. Heres what i want to say right now i wish i could have been born in mexico. I wish i could know my culture. I have never known what my culture is. Heres what im going to say right now. Years inrked for 40 the u. S. And im very happy for that. I could just as well been born in mexico and work there. If the Mexican Government could have protected their own people host thank you for calling in. Angeles times, obamacare rates to rise a modest 4. 2 as their headline. Of the majority leader house, Kevin Mccarthy, has an oped in the washington post. A fresh agenda for congress. A little bit from this oped. Congress must let go of the steel policies of the stale policies of the past. A little bit from his oped. Has a tedhronicle cruz story as their lead. Gop border clash. Borderwithin gop quashes vote. A side story about senator ted cruz and his influence. Robert costa writes. That is in the washington post, robert costa. Anita in san antonio, what do you think . I think what happened yesterday is extremely alarming. Ted cruz is doing nothing but hurting the people of texas. It is costing us the people of texas a lot of money. For the federal government, i dont know how we are supposed to pay for it. The National Guard is costing 12,000 a month. Who is going to pay for that . San antonio, we have kids that need food and someplace to sleep. Who aregot people trying to help them but everything costs money. Helping thenot state he is supposed to represent one that by his behavior. In sanhat is anita antonio. Here is lionel in new york city. Caller how are you. I was listening to the bill. Dueeems not to leave any process for reviewing the bill. Are they going to come back nobody knows what they are going to do . Which really kills me. They said theyre going to have a bill and put it on the president s desk. The senate is not there to review it. Ue people from s the house of representatives that are blocking the process of this government . Host you are asking that rhetorically . So. Er yeah, i guess host thank you, lionel. Josh earnest at the white house had this to say. [video clip] thatthink we have seen congress being in washington dc does not guarantee they are going to do work. Their record speaks for itself n terms of this congress record, specifically Republican Leadership in the house of representatives. It has demonstrated an inability to do very much, particularly related to the priorities shared by middleclass families. It was pretty disappointing that in the limited time remaining that House Republicans were focused on passing legislation authorizing the lawsuit against the president daily for doing his job. Anthony from arizona on our independent line. Where is sierra vista . Arizona, aboutn 30 miles from the mexican border. Host what you think about all this discussion going on . Caller heres a quote. Forh more ways than ever answering to constituents, campaign. Ficials stay in washington, use technology, hold town halls, get on radio shows, use technology , you can reachet your constituents and they can reach you from the border of mexico. Get your butt back in town, do your job. We dont need you on the street, doingd you in the capitol our nations business. Host have you seen any effect of the border crossings in sierra vista . Caller we have quite a few Law Enforcement agencies. It would be hard to tell. They are constantly being challenged within the intelligence networks. Y are finding things drugs, so, the reality is they are doing their job. They are my public servants. I owe them a grade two of gratitude. Money,them food, anything i can. When i go out to go to the grocery store, when i go any, i count on my First Responders to provide that safety net for me. Host thank you, sir. Thursday, republican, taos, new mexico. Caller good morning. The number one thing is we should secure the border. Withed to close the border mexico. The democrats have been playing ,olitics with immigration especially with hispanic voters. And they are doing it again. Yes, we do have to have compassion. For the immigrant children. Ist of having compassion reuniting them with their own countries and their own families back home. Instead of what is going on now. You, joes. Jose. John boehner talk about what is going on. [video clip] we have worked on the house side to move bills that would help our economy. Bills in the senate have no action. 300 other bills, almost all of which have passed on a bipartisan basis, sit in the senate. I will not accept responsibility for the pack that for the fact that the senate will act. Hampshire,y, new democrats line. Caller peter, let me to delete i am. U who i in the lady from New Hampshire who goes to a Chinese Restaurant on christmas. Host ok. Caller i have been listening for cspan too long. I cannot remember when i saw Something Like yesterday. You will probably cut me off, but i think what we have in congress is a bunch of gangsters, i am sorry. Host why . Caller they do what they wanted do, they do not follow the law. Sessions was talking about border control, it is not possible to do that. He is doing it today. I cannot believe this. Ive been looking at cspan too long. Ive watched congress change. I am very disgusted and angry. Host what would you like to see done on the border . Caller that is such a big subject. I am not that for immigration. Foramily came here immigration, they waited their turn. Coming from the border like that is not good for this country. We have too many problems and we do not have enough money to take care of the people. That is just the way i feel about it. Host what do you do in portsmouth . Old, i amam 80 years partially paralyzed because i have had a stroke. My husband worked until age 82. We are very upset about the Market Basket situation, i am sure you know about it. Host thank you, audrey in portsmouth. Alex in akron. Caller hey, how you doing. Texas, in there in took a Greyhound Bus last month on the 25th. Host why . Caller i was visiting a friend. But i was down there and i noticed all these immigrants were coming in. I did not see the news reports or anything like that. I communicated with people that were down there. Theywere telling me that had yellow envelopes. Inside the envelopes were there government paperwork. These are not immigrants. To enter paperwork into the United States. They have permission. These people that set up the paperwork, they know where they are going. They have sent them into different states. I was with a woman going to indiana with two children. They sent her everywhere from virginia to South Carolina before she got to indiana. Whoever setis this system up for this immigration fight, they knew what they are doing. They have been paid. When they go to the American People and say what do you think about it, they are asking for more money. They have made a backend deal. Are not illegal, they had paperwork. Host thank you, sir. Politico reports that the senate sends a va reform bill to obama. 913, sending the package to president obama. Crafted by Bernie Sanders and jeff miller after a debate on how to pay the 70 million legislation. The bill halts bonuses for eva employees and just some veterans the ability to seek private care. From politico, tom coburn was talking about the legislative process. [video clip] billion in waste a year and the federal government. Waste, fraud, duplication. To ask us to spend 200 million here or 200 million here or in the case of the veterans bill, 17 billion. 5 billion of it is paid for. Ofhout doing the hard work not transferring more debt to our children is not acceptable to me. My right as an individual senator are going to be utilized today to make sure we do not transfer another penny if i can stop it on the backs of our children. We were be different if efficient, we did not have any waste or fraud or duplication. It is an excuse to not do the hard work we were sent here to do. I put my colleagues on notice that if you want to pass any bill that is going to go by unanimous consent, you better find some way, somewhere to offset it or i will object. The hill, senators call for cia chief resignation. Forr pressure building john brennan to resign following the that they spied on Senate Staffer computers. A watchdog report concluded d senate had accesse computers. Mark udall and senator hoeven call for his resignation. The New York Times comments. A little bit from the New York Times goes quite editorial. Georgia, South Carolina, republican line. What do you think about the house staying in session to debate the border bill . Caller my opinion, we are to take their fingerprints and their picture, but them on a plane. Tell them if they come back illegally we will put you in jail. If i break the law, i go to jail. All these bleeding heart democrat that love these immigrants so much, let them move in with them. I do not want them in my state. They cannot speak english. I am tired of having them. They ought to be gone. Send them back. The monoplane and send them back. The washington times, the fight over scott walkers policy ending bargaining for unions. The 52 ruling is another victory for mr. Walker. Foster from detroit, democrats. Caller calling you from detroit, michigan. Speaking directly to the issue of this extra session, i really rule undert the 2008 president bush and even when president bush was governor bush for eight years, i do believe, could have done something then do let us know about the problems of at the border. We have a Border Patrol and nine know they could have been underfunded because a lot of people snaked through the border. In 2000 and eight needs to change. Whenever you have a noncontinuous country like guatemala, el salvador, and other Central American countries that these individuals are , that says that the department of health and Human Services has to give them due process this is the law. The arguments of the be a bitns seem to unfair. To some degree, it is libelous. In a free country where free is one of our core Democratic Values but we do not have the right to say things that are untrue and libelous about our president. As a u. S. Congressional candidate in the michigan 14th district, i am a person that thinks we ought to give each attaboy. Out o an the democrats do not want to give republicans any credit. Someone ought to ask john to sit, senator reid down together, just those tw o. Instead of sending back one upmanships through the news not working together, there are bills in both chambers that have not moved to the other chamber. Host who currently represents the 14th district in michigan . Isler gary peters, but he in the front running for the u. S. Senate in michigan. We have to democrat from michigan. Pat as well as well as that goes. Unless we are sitting unless we are losing seats in the midterm election, hoping that is not the case. Speaking to immigration host we are going to have to leave it there. In the hill, negative views of obamacare at alltime high, erasing six months of gradual increases in the lost popularity. Americans now see the Affordable Care act in a negative light and her 245 percent last month. This is a poll done monthly by the Kaiser Family foundation. Florida, independent line. The house is staying in session to work on the border bill. What do you think . They dids about time their job. We should just get rid of every democrat and republican in the government, but i will get off my tangent. Were having a major problem here. The problem is that we have federal agents on our interstates and highways, within 100 miles of the border. These resources we are spending this money on with thousands of troops and thousands of federal agents on the border not having the back of that they need to make sure that nobody is coming over these fences because we are stretched so thin. If we are stretched this then, stop violating the Fourth Amendment and put these agents from the highway back down to the border where they belong. If you cant, lets do it with the National Guard and the military and then we can see how and these mexican cartels these mafias and everything that are shooting at our federal agents, lets see how they like facing the most powerful army in the world. And then they make it impossible through and they charge you outrageous prices to get your freedom of information act police report. It is absolutely ridiculous and redundant and needs to stop. Host great, republican in california. I have the same sentiments of the lady that just spoke. I am disillusioned with both parties. The democrats and the republicans. Concerning this border issue, americans that are calling out for funding, they need to go to a Nonprofit Organization called feed the children. If they wish to give to these illegal children, give. Need of children are in more money. Ht now, there is over roughly one billion of impoverished children around the world. Should we as americans open up our arms and say for all the children to come . This is really crazy. Now 2e roughly right million americans who have criminal records for trespassing and burglary. On the same token, we are allowing these people from this foreign country to break into our country, the sovereign United States of america, and we are not enforcing our law. It is very simple. Section 1324, bringing in and harboring illegal aliens is a crime. I am appalled at president obama , i voted for him, he tricked me like you tricked many others. I voted for him thinking he would uphold the constitution. He is not. And i am upset. Way, a reminder that we set aside our fourth line this morning if you are an illegal immigrant. We are not going to track the call or anything, we just want to hear your review, your view. 202 5855883. A gop poll shows nevada governor Ryan Sandoval in front of harry reid if he runs for reelection. 53 40 3 . Ohio, democrats line. Caller yes, thanks for having me, you. Ii without. War i am 86 years old. Sometimes i get things a little mixed up but i have been watching the politics really close. The lady that called in about having the votes to get it, somebody is trying to get votes st the republican side, i ju want to talk about the borders. That is who is in there. People from all over the world. We have the hispanics in there, the blacks in there. Everybody is running and trying to help our country out and fighting for our country. When he was in there, he was the president of mexico will stop he and bush were very good friends. Had he wanted fox to let all the mexicans in. He said bring them in, we will put them to work. Votes,ing about getting casey is our governor of ohio. He took away everything. He would not let a black and his cabinet. The tea party is made up of the Republican Party. They do not like the blacks. We have a lot of ku klux klan in our neighborhood and doing our newspapers. He Koch Brothers got kasich in. Want the blacks. They are taking over schools and buying them out. There, lot of topics in we appreciate you sharing your views. Washingtonof the times, obama goes too far in defense cuts. This is according to the National Defense panel which caught on the president to dump a major section of his andrennial defense review write a broader strategy that requires the military to fight on multiple fronts at once. It said that the shrinking u. S. Armed forces, which are being a serious is strategic misstep on the part of the u. S. William perry, defense secretary under bill clinton and general abazaid other two cochairs of this panel. Roger, north carolina. Caller this border thing has got me really mad. Was on tvse it talking about how we need to have compassion for the people nancy pelosi was on tv talking about how we need to have compassion for the people. I want to know when the government is going to have compassion for its own people. How many are they shipping to washington dc and nevada . They should put a tent city on the white house lawn and let him and his old lady go out there and read them bedtime stories. They put everybody else before this country and i am sick of it. Thank you. Host kathleen from baltimore. Kathleen, you are on the washington journal. I am a fan of cspan. But my real concern, i think i called the wrong number but i hope i can get this out. How they can delay their vacation by one day and what could be resolved in one day. Had many other days. I am a democrat and i do not want to blame the democrats or the republicans. I blame the people that we vote ,or and put in those positions they have taken four years to five years and cannot talk with each other. Where is the human side . Democrat and republican. How many of these people are godfearing and look at their own states . I do not a howto even label them, the immigrants. It is everywhere. Some of godshave spirit in you. Have compassion and try to do the right thing. The president cannot do it by himself. I would appreciate your comment on that. Host no comment, but thank you for yours. Hazleton, pennsylvania. Weler my problem with this, have so many issues in the u. S. We have a deficit that is out of control. We have 15 Million People on food stamps and we are focusing on the border. It is chump change what the government is spending on the border compared to Everything Else that they are wasting money on. Reale got to focus on the issue. People are violating the constitution daily. That is what we should be focusing on as a country, what the foundation of this country should be and how it is being violated and needs to be rebuilt. That is what we really need to focus on. Host there was a note with your name that says you legally immigrated to the u. S. 20 years ago . Caller i legally immigrated. Host was the process like . Caller it was from the dominican republic, i came here as a child. It took a good three years. When people are coming over the borders, i feel like they should be sent back. We are already enough trouble as it is. We need to be helping the whole world, we cannot do that much that we want to do. Koskinen did an interview. The irs commissioner said republicans investigating the scrutiny of Tea Party Groups are using storylines to attempt to keep the controversy alive. There are some people who do not want a straight story, said koskinen. He warned republicans, who are pushing eric holder to to beigate the irs, careful what they wish for. I am not sure people want a special prosecutor. The prosecutor would have sold on main and you would not be ording hearings every week two. Rose, democrat, good morning. Caller there is an idea that i have that i have not heard. Here . They have to stay why cant they go to latin american countries where they speak their own language. If we pay off the argentinian t, have those kids go there, they can get education. Status, whyugee must we take care of them for the rest of their lives . If their parents cannot work, why must we do that . In. Cant the pope step most of them are catholic. Why must they all stay here . We cannot afford it. Said,her gentleman just he is an immigrant himself. It would cost less for the taxpayer to take care of them in other countries where they are more familiar. These kids have posttraumatic stress and drug violence. We will put them into our schools . Some of them should stay, but not all of them. Have them filtered through another country before they do get status here. Thank you. From the washington post, a couple money stories. Federal paralegals paid to sit idle. Dozens of federal employees at and of secure agency went years with so little work to do that they collected salaries and even bonuses while they surf the internet, did laundry, exercise, and watched television, an investigation has found. The employees, paralegals making from 60,000 to 80,000 a year, with full knowledge of immediate bosses and multiple layers of managers and judges, who sat on their hands waiting for work to give them. The paralegals took home more than 4. 3 million in pay and about 700,000 in annual performance mrs. For outstanding from 2009 22013. The report fount. The report fount. The report found. Senators spent 1 million on charter flight last year. In the heart on a fourday, 1000 mile trip across the state. He was flying a chartered plane at a cost to taxpayers of 8,500. Warner was one of two dozen u. S. Senators who flew taxpayerfunded charter from, or around their home states last year at a total cost of just under 1 million, according to a usa analysis of Senate Spending records compiled by the nonperson; nation. They have a chart, some senators on charters. See it there. Greenville, South Carolina, republican line. The house is staying in session. Caller hey, how are you doing . I wanted, i was going to respond to the last caller, she was a democrat. Shes trying to understand how they will fund them children. At the same time, she is voting obama ispolicies, taxing the American People. Host all right. Houston. Hi. Caller thank you. Justl saddened and disillusioned with everything that has been going on in the white house. It feels like there is such a disarray with everything. Is not what the American People, they are not following what they showed. They are encouraging people who are trying to come over to the border to legally come over here. , heather was from hungary came over and became a citizen. He was in world war ii, he was in the korean war in the air force and he served during the vietnam war. Legally, thever fundamentals and the basic good nature of raising a family, once you do, in your house, in your home or the white house, you do not tell them that they can come over. Everyone thatng we are coming there because president obama will take care of us. Disillusionment in so many arenas. He seems to be a master of confusion. Tot were going to have leave it there. A couple names from the past. Monica lewinsky is joining vanity fair. Former senator Joe Lieberman has an oped in the wall street journal. Leaving u. S. Allies addressed as chaos rises. East, asia, and europe, allies are increasingly feeling alone while iran, russia, and china are on the move. Our allies may be tempted to seek out a different partner. Making the world much more dangerous. Last call, david, michigan, democrat. What do you think about the house staying in session . Caller is a dog and pony show. Ceremony as usual. I had a quick story. By detroit over the weekend, ia by a coupleilled dogs. The owners of the dogs are getting charged for murder. They are illegal albanian immigrants. How do they how do people just stay here and establish Property Ownership . How come wehing, not enforcing the laws on the books . Host david from michigan, thank you. Some tweets. Patrol. 22,000 border it is the right thing to do. Up, ben shapiro joining us from california at a very early hour to talk about some of the issues. Delegate Eleanor Holmes more than from the District Of Columbia will be here. Our last segment, we will be talking about Building Seven and 911. We want to show you this, david vitter will be our newsmakers guest this week. Republican of louisiana who is on the environment and public works committee. We asked him about the lawsuit against president obama and medicaid expansion. [video clip] it is a broken system. With no health care at all have better outcomes, that is a tragedy. If we can move forward fundamental reforms and that involves reform tied to it, i live look at that. The fundamental challenge in my mind is significant reform. Another issue is that we are not draining additional state resources away from other. Riorities the growth in healthcare costs, jordan by the federal government drivenlast 40 years, has state resources away from things like higher education. Would not allow any discussion of changes, expansions, further priorities like higher education. Staying on the healthcare to begin ause voted lawsuit against the executive branch over its decision to. Elay the employer mandate do you think that helps the party or could be successful . Im going to focus on the substance first instead of the politics. Obama is picking and choosing what parts of the law to enforce and what parts to ignore. That is beyond his constitutional authority. That lawsuit is exactly right. , he signedhe law into law, he cannot then after pick and choose what he is going to enforce and what he is not going to enforce. Washington journal continues. Host joining us from california, ben shapiro. His most recent book the people versus barack obama the criminal case against the Obama Administration. Do you support what the house is doing in suing the president. Guest i do. It is not the best of all available options, but it is an option in terms of curbing the president s power. The last time the house did this, the president lost 90 at the Supreme Court level. A sillyent is obviously action given the democratic control of the senate. Theyre left with two options, cut funding for some of the president s programs or sue the president , which is what he is doing and which is what they are doing. The washington times, talking about the impeachment issue. He says the democrats are using as a fundraising tool. That it is not a viable option. Guest that is correct, given democratic control of the senate. Republicans were not willing to convict president clinton when he committed perjury. The idea that impeachment is going to happen is ridiculous. Impeachment is ineffective over the course of u. S. History. We have had a total of 18 impeachment in the house and nine convictions in the senate, one every 30 years. That is not sufficient to curb the excesses of the executive branch. Legislative power needs to be used. Host nancy pelosi talks about the gop and the lawsuit, i want to get your reaction to what she had to say. [video clip] republicans do not have time to raise the minimum wage, but they have time to sue the president of the United States. They do not have the money to feed the children, help the American People, but they have they want to blame they sue thelank check to president. Toy have lost moral standing what is happening on the border, they have standing to sue the president. That is framework for how they go forward. Standing, they disagree with nancy pelosi on policy. That is what you expect nancy pelosi to say. And facileidiculous comment by nancy pelosi. She is good at manipulating. The idea that republicans have a choice between agreeing with nancy pelosi and suing the president , that is a false dichotomy. They could do both. When the president overstepped his boundaries, who is going to stop him . This is a troubling indictment of what is going on in congress. The fact is that there are a lot of people in the u. S. , who see m to have fallen into the trap of believing that just because they do not like what congress is doing, they can let the president act on his own. That is the beginning of tyranny. I do not remember the exact revision of the constitution where it says if congress does not do with the president wants, the president gets to do whatever he wants. That would be tyranny. My impression is that the constitution is not fond of that and we actually fought a resolution to stop that sort of behavior. Host we were talking earlier about the fact that the house is staying in session to work on the border bill. The house should say in session and also take into lot of thet a grassroots thanks. You are seeing a gap between the grassroots and the establishment. Pushingt news has been hard against the border bill, with good reason. John boehners border bill is insufficient, it does not curb the president s ability to give amnesty to millions of people, which is obamas end goal. What is so funny about all of this, 99 of americans basically agree on this, shut the border, figure out what to do with the people here. The fact that we keep going back to this idea that all legislation has to be calmer why an 800page, bill is better than a two page bill. Ucla,harvard law, breitbart law and columnist at truthrevolt. Com. A radio talkshow host and the author of six books. Most recently, the people versus barack obama. Mike, maryland, independent caller. Caller good morning. Allomment, i feel like with about, with obama and now they are going to stay in session, they are not going to add anything. It is going to be the same thing as it was with the health care bill. It will be the same with the borders. The wholeis like thing is just a game. It is just going to keep destroying the sovereignty of america. Aimingt is what we are for. We can sit here every day and people are calling and everybody is talking about what is going on here and there was stuff. Nobody is dealing with obama. He should be, he should have been gone by now. We do not have any problem with nixon, but now all of a sudden were going to play this game. It is disgusting. It is like every morning listening to this, the colonies did not have any problems standing up against tyranny that was going on, there was more of a christianbased back then. Is where we are really at. We do not have spiritual malady has been the story in america. In theed that sits capital and all the people crapg laws dont give a about the people. Host we get your point. Guest we are watching an administration that does not want to follow laws on the books. The Bush Administration was not good on the border either. The idea that new laws are going to fix everything, the administration does not want to pass laws as they stand. We do not have the power to close the border, of course we do. It would cost about 25 billion dollars to build a border fence, sort of like israels border fence. Something like 15,000 National Guard troops to secure the border. Yet we are not doing any of that. The fact that were not doing any of that space to the fact that we do not want to support a lot of the folks coming in. My position on immigration is that i am for open immigration in the absence of a welfare state. You cannot have both. You have both parties arguing for the continuation of an open for different purposes. Democrats think it is going to get them more voters. And a lot of republicans want an open border because they want cheap labor. The people who are coming here who want to be part of the American Dream, the American Dream has to exist in order for them to be part of it. It is predicated on the notion that hard work allows you to get ahead and that the welfare state is not going to allow people to mooch off the system. If people are coming here with no education and no marketable job skills, if we have a welfare state in place, they are going to be a net burden on the system. Host a tweet for you. Schapiro, we all know that going after the president will sell a lot of books. Can you admit that the house is dysfunctional or incompetent . Guest i certainly think congress is incompetent. I dont think there is anything new about that. Congress has the power to use its legislative power to check the president. The fact that obama is overstepping his boundaries. There is nothing new about this particular house. Host any difference now with Kevin Mccarthy as majority leader . Guest major i have not seen any difference thus far. He may be slightly more in touch with the grassroots than eric cantor was. Debbie, indiana, republican line. Theer all i want to tell American People is that we are the boss of the senate, the congress, the president. We voted all those people in, and if we were doing a job like they are doing right now, we as bosses would walk in and say you are all fired. Dorefore, what they need to is sit down and decide, when it is time to reelect people, are we really going to go back to this chaos or do we want to straighten out this problem and get new ideas in there . Get rid of nancy pelosi, john boehner, all of them. If they cannot work for the American People, fine. Guest the kind of throw them all out mentality again, i think there is a lot of justification to it, but the reality is it cannot be we are just going to elect new people every two years or every quarter years or every 60s and then we just forget about it and there left to their own devices. The American People need to constantly be putting pressure on their congress people. We are seeing that right now. I think the level of dysfunction in washington is not the worst thing in the world. I am exiting more concert in washington is fully functional and everybody agrees. I would rather have congress do nothing than congress do something that is the wrong thing. Host i want to get your reaction to john boehner talking about impeachment. [video clip] talk about impeachment is coming from the president s own staff and from democrats on the hill because they are trying to rally the people and to get money for this years election. We have no plans to impeach the president. Listen, it is all a scam asserted by democrats at the white house. Host ben shapiro . Guest i think there is some truth to that. The fact that the white house wants to talk about impeachment all the time is good evidence that they are interested is using it for political gain. Is guilty of impeachable offenses. Nancy pelosi had the right response to this question when she was asked in 2000 six. She said, yes, bush is guilty of impeachable offenses, but we cannot impeach him. That is the right answer and destroy for president obama. Even though the president may have committed impeachable are politicale realities to deal with. Here is the truth i know people think on the right for some reason that moving president obama out of office would be some sort of political put nancy a. It would not be. Joe biden would take over. You would have an executive branches 3 Million People strong. Changing who occupies the oval office is not going to change any of that. It will take a long and determined effort to minimize ensuring the size and scope of government so it is not as heard in some as it is in your life right now. That does not change just by getting rid of one guy in the oval office. How do you sell that message to the majority of americans . I think it is being sold to the american public. What were watching right now is that every day government is encouraging more and more upon the personal space of americans, and youre seeing resistance at the state level from various governors, including cancer. Utilizing various forms of resistance of the individual level for individuals are refusing to provide you with a believe that the incompetent federal regulations. I think the government is doing a pretty good of of convincing people it is really bad at a lot of stuff. Host a call from South Carolina on our democrat line. Wonderings, im still whothey do not recognize god is. God is president in office. These that he would leave one term. I think they are . Just really affected the whole process. Thiskeep coming up with because he is black. Host we hear that often hear from callers on the washington journal that republicans are attacking the president because he is africanamerican and no other president has faced this kind of harshness before . Guest it is ridiculous. George w. Bush had documentaries about why he should be assassinated. Obama isn to barack not unique. And to say it is based on race is also ridiculous. Promisedt said what he he would be he has completely transformed the healthcare system. He has flipped the United States of border policy. Border policy has been a ground shift. It has been an acceleration of what we have seen over the last 20 years from both parties. Resistance, and i have to say the idolatrous worship of this president and some precincts of the United States is more frightening than anything the president himself is doing. When David Horwitz introduced you the other night before your book talk, he said that the president was a lifelong communist. Do you agree with that . O, i mean, i think the president is a political nihilist at this point. He studied martial. I think the president has a lot toward a marxist point of view. As far as the id he wants to nationalize all industry, it depends on your definition of communism. I think people think soviet union, but i do not think to be the soviet union is Barack Obamas role. A leveling of economic outcomes is his goal. Could be marxist without being a communist, if that makes sense. Host frank, pennsylvania, independent line. Caller i want to ask if he thinks this is a big act of both sides, democrats and republicans . They both have things to gain. Democrats think they are going to gain themselves blue states out of red states. And republicans controlled by the industry, then the bigmoney businesses in this country want a third world workforce in this country. I would like to hear his comments on that. Immigration issue, i think there is truth to the idea that both parties are in favor of immigration policy that is not good for the United States. I think a lot of politicians are beholden to big business in the Republican Party and believe that by importing a chief labor force they are somehow helping the situation. I think a lot of democrats who want to keep that border opened for a lot of reasons, first, that these people will eventually vote, and second, the thing hispanics currently in the United States will vote for them. And the third reason is because they understand we will have to pay for a lot of the folks crossing the border and there is this sort of nihilistic streak within the Current Democratic Party that suggests terror and dumb people that are more wealthy is more important than building up people who are more poor. It is a requirement now for rich people to pay more taxes. Rich schapiro mr. Shapiro, this is an oped from this morning with the headline leaving u. S. Allies adrift as chaos rises. Guest clearly, he is right. It is a dramatic understatement. The president has actually reversed sides on the war on terror. We are now allying ourselves with the Muslim Brotherhood and hamas. We have been spending 400 million a year on the palestinian unity government that includes hamas. We have been brokering deals thaniran that are less worthless. We have put israel in the position of having to strike policy ifs. stated israel wishes to defend herself. What were watching is either a manifestation of jew hatred on the part of the Obama Administration and a specific dislike of israel or a more generalized dislike of american allies, which is also a possibility. America has abandoned allies. Were watching a shrinking of the american influence on the world scene, and president obama seems to be very much in favor of that. Host chris, gaithersburg, maryland, republican. Taking myank you for call and thank you for cspan. Do you believe that the republicans are sitting back and just letting this guy do as much damage, meaning the president , trying to keep his reins in a little bit . Second of all, do you think he will go down in history as one ,f the bottom five president s even with the rewriting of history books which i am sure will be done . I always feel like the democrats, their last argument is always racism. I will take my comment off the air. Guest i think there are a couple different questions there. As far as president obamas place in history, i think that will be decided by whichever historians are writing. Was a wonderful president but a lot of americans think he was a terrible president. I am not a big fan of the judgments of history. I do not think there is unified stream in the judgment of history. I do not think it is the unified stream. There are many different perspectives, most of them wrong. There is that. As far as whether the republicans have been enabling the president , that i very much doubt. I do not think the Republican Congress is unable the president. Since 2010 emma the president s major initiatives have failed at every major legislative level, which is why he is resorting to executive authority overreaches. Executive requirement is not a last resort, it is a first resort for those on the left. The first resort of the left is to start shouting about how it is racism as opposed to possible extremism of the people in power. Host ben shapiro, working people hear your radio show . Guest the first one is a group radio show, me, a liberal guy, 0nother conservative, klra 87 in los angeles. I have a second show on ktth 770 in seattle. Host are those on the internet . Websitess, they have for the shows. Governor christie stumps in New Hampshire the headline in the wall street journal. What is your take on the republican field . Open field. A very they will see establishment consolidated around someone. Chris christie seems to have lost some of his luster for a lot of the establishment folks. There is a lot of talk about jeb bush, which i think is unfortunate. I do not think a bushclinton election will go well for republicans. It did not last time. I do not think we have seen the spotlight yet full stop a think bobby jindal will do some damage. Someone from indiana will run and will be some damage before this is done. The truth is, the field is so open at this point and for some reason the American People there really is a possibility that an outsider, some of the we have never really considered, will jump into the race and really shake things up. It is still very early. I know that is a copout, but unfortunately, it is really early, and some and has to sort of copout on that one. Host greg, indianapolis, good morning. So funny listening to you because the funny thing is, i can guarantee you probably in the next 20 years maybe i will still be around here, there will be a latino president , just like there is an africanamerican president. I think that you white folks are just adding scared and you are panicking, so that is why you go against obama for everything that he says and everything that he does. Because the white folks are losing their power. Thank you. Host ben shapiro . Guest there is this thing called yarmulke, this idea that all white folk are the same and we all have the same belief him and the idea that white folk are simply afraid of losing the power first of all, im not sure when my folks on the jewish people, became white people, i guess when we became successful in the United States. But the idea that white folks are afraid of using their suppose its a privacy in American Society is asinine, resulting insulting, ridiculous, and every other derogatory word i can think of. People are upset in this country of every race about what is happening in the country. If you are not upset, you are not looking closely enough. Host david is in lawton, oklahoma. Caller thank you for taking my call. I want to comment on obamas leadership. The previous caller that brought up race and him being africanamerican and just disrespecting the guest and calling him white, categorizing him i am native american. Very, very upset with what obama is doing with this country. He is taking this country into a country without a border, and if you do not have a border, then you are not even a country. So i do feel like he should be impeached. Me being native american, if i was president , you Better Believe you guys would impeach me in a heartbeat for what obama is doing. I just do not see the race givingally put up and him a pass just because he is africanamerican or whatever. We do not even know who his real father is. They say barack obama is from africa. I saw a documentary about this guy davis being his father. So who is the guy who is in the white house in the first place . Terrible leadership. He should be impeached. I wish the American People would wake up and realize that he is destroying our country. I think we got, the point. Ben shapiro . Clouding the Obama Administration with conspiracy theories about his heritage is not only a mistake, but it is silly. We know who his father is and we know where he was born. The rest is nonsense. As far as the notion he has a certain luster because of his race, in the eyes of the media, that is certainly true. If we had seen another president performed the weight obama has performed, i think the media would have turned a little bit on him a long time ago. Were watching certain segments of the population have a worship for this president , the likes of which i have not seen in my lifetime. The fact that his approval rating, despite his performance, his never drop below 40 shows there is a certain level of loyalty to him that cannot be explained by his political success. Host your radio show comes on and about 40 five minutes from now. What is your lead . Guest we will be talking about the immigration issue and that debate. We will be talking about israel and the continuing fallout in the gaza strip. I hope we will be talking about the California Water drought which continues to be ridiculous given that the governor of our state is about to start fining is on an individual level essentially while we just blew 20 million gallons of water in a water main break at ucla. You could see people swimming around like it was the pool over at poly. Host tell me about the water shortage. Guest there is a water shortage. This happens when a government subsidizes water rights. They are fining people for water use of water, but they keep the water its so low that people have an incentive to keep using the water at these rates. Plus, the reality is that the government of california is losing 10 of its water in leaks, and they are not fixing those. Instead, their fining individuals. Teresa, carnegie, pennsylvania, republican line. 82 and haveo, i am been a voter all my life. I am so disgusted with our government, the way that it is being run. Theyre like high school, kindergarten kids. I am going to take my marbles and go home. They cannot settle anything. For gode veterans, sakes, that have protected them while they are snuggled up in the bed with their families, and their crucifying them without the and if its without their benefits. Shame, shame. They want to get to the borders, that is fine. They have cut the unemployment rates on people that are in their 50s. They cannot get another job. Yet, they want billions to the borders to allow criminals to walk in here . Shame, shame. We need to do something. I cannot just blame obama. I am a registered democrat, but did not vote this time around. This country is downsizing fast, and it is a shame. Of my family that were in all three wars, and they were proud to do it for their country. You would not find kids today that want to enlist. They are sick of it. Thank you very much. You get theay that Government Accountability is by dramatically cutting the executive branch. You can change or congressperson, but you cannot change any of the folks at the regulatory agencies. Congress has an interest in pushing authority to those regulatory agencies, specifically so they can keep being reelected. If you want an answerable government, the executive branch must be shrunk. If you do not like your congressman, you can get rid of your concert congressman and there will be consequences. Right now, we are not getting rid of our congresspeople, and even if we do, there is no major change in how the country is administered. We should all be for a smaller and more controlled government, one under our control, not one that is under the control of one man in the executive branch. And it should not be under the control that the fuel people that were elected ages ago. Host do you consider yourself a Tea Party Guy . Guest absolutely. I think the tea party has been dramatically mystified by the media. I do not understand why 100 of americans are not tea partiers. They are looking for Smaller Government and lower taxes. Host anthony, stockton, california, democrat line. Caller thank you for taking my call. First of all, i want to say, ben california,is from as well, represents california. But i want to make the comment. Bout jerry brown bottom line on that is that we had a republican governor, and he destroyed [indiscernible] no one said anything. Jerry brown gets in there and we are in the black instead of being in the red. He has been doing a wonderful job. They need to give reddit where credit is due. Talking about the president , you know, this immigration, everybody here is an immigrant. It is typical for them and the republican parties to sit up there and talk about these children coming over the border or whatever. If you want to keep it real and be real about it, leave the country and give it back to the native americans, the indians, who it rightfully belonged to. Thistired of hearing all talk about immigrants, emigrants, they are taking our country. Guess what, america, it is a new america. Host thank you, sir. Arnold schwarzenegger was a for a show of a governor in california. Jerry brown has multiplied the budget. Is in thes that he black is asinine. He is not in the black. He raised taxes on the people in california, and we have budget deficits. We have over one trillion dollars of structural debt here in the state of california. So the idea that jerry brown has healed our wounds is a fiction created by the l. A. Times. I am for pretty much an open border if we get rid of the welfare state. The problem is you cannot have a welfare state and an open border. It is like having a donut shop and giving away free donuts to everybody who walks in. If you do that, you will soon be out of donuts. That is what is happening in the United States. What bothers me is the coupon at that the Democratic Party plays on, the ethnic and racial solidarity opponent, the idea that it is just all these white folks that want to shut down these like folks and hispanic folks that are coming across into the country. A lot of black folks and hispanic folks are not happy with the border situation. Being to understand how in favor of a rationally regulated border and understanding who comes in the country is in any way debt or mental to the United States, and i fail to understand how taking the position that anybody who wants to be part of the American Dream should be part of the American Dream so long as they are not on american benefits. Betweenasefire clash collapses between israel and hamas. The truce broke down when clashes began and militants fired rockets into israel. Any comment . Guest shocker, huge shocker. Turns out that hamas, which has been murdering every jew in the region, it does not want a ceasefire. There is a huge shock. The administration saying israel should have a humanitarian ceasefire and should stop going after people who want to murder them in their beds, it demonstrates the blindness of the administration and the moral incapacity of the world to understand true evil. What were watching in hamas and israel is clearly a case of good versus evil. Ben shapiro was on the indepth program on booktv last year. You can watch that on booktv. Org. You can find out more about his book also. A couple tweets this one says i will have a little more spring in my conservative step this morning things to the no holds barred attitude of ben shapiro. See theone we can president for over 30 his authority, why not sue congress for not doing their job . Guest i think the proper remedy for congress is just not to of everym, their teacher years, so they can do that. We need to get away from this idea, unfortunately it has become common, that compromising is the job of congress. The job of congress is to protect your rights. If they compromise on your rights, you do not want to be a part of that. What we wanted to economist at his answer will to us, and we want an executive haughty head of answerable to us. What is a gradual slide into a executive dictatorship because we have a group of people in america we do not watch closely and yell for compromise. Problem,there is a something must be done. At the congress does not do it, then the president should. In the constitution of the United States, the job of the president is specifically defined, and nowhere does it say do good stuff. He has two watch his constitutional boundaries. Laura, independent line. Caller i have one question and one comment. Mr. Shapiro mentioned that while obama could have an impeachable offenses, that they would not impeach him. If were not going to enforce our laws on the border, you know, and let illegals overrun us there and say, no biggie, we will just keep them, and then if you do not impeach the president for wrongdoing, you know, what kind of message are we sending . Dont we need accountability somewhere . More than a slap on the wrist, saying, we are sorry that you are doing this, but go right ahead and do it because we will not take any action against you, you know . I personally think he should be impeached. As far as the gentleman who called in and was ranting and raving as a number of callers yes, weut immigrants, are a nation of immigrants, but the point is it is legal immigration. They came through ellis island and had medical checks and were quarantined if they had a disease or something. They had paperwork. They did not just walked across the border as they chose. And then, you know, said, ok, stay here. We have people doing it legally. But youre breaking the law coming across our borders, and we will just bump you to the head of the line because you are cheap labor or whatever the thing is. I would like to hear his thoughts on those things. Host thank you. Guest as far as the immigration issue and when peoples ancestors came over, my greatgrandfather came here in 1921 and the system was very different. They screened for disease and criminality. That is from any country. You had to screen for disease and criminality and things that could affect the general public. The difference was that there was no welfare state upon which for my greatgrandfather to rely. The idea with the would come here he came with no money, did not speak the linkage, he made something of himself, started the business, and made money. That is what the American Dream was. He did not come here and rely on Public Benefits. Even if you come here and do what my grandfather did, you withbe stuck in the group Public Benefits. As long as the people who want to come across the border or people who actually want to work and not rely on Public Benefits and we change the system so that they have to work and cannot rely on Public Benefits, that is true of people here, as well. As far as impeachment, im for anything that stops executive overreach. Impeachment will not stop that. The senate is not going to vote for the impeachment or the conviction of the president for high crimes and misdemeanors. Even if it did, it would not stop the executive overreach. The executive branch is too big and burdensome. By only way to stop this is electing a congress that slices the size and scope of executive authority. A tweet what is your opinion on gay marriage and abortion . Opinion on gaymy marriage, with regard to gay marriage, i am a traditional marriage guy. However, it is time for the state to get out of the business of marriage entirely. I think it is a mistake for the state to be involved in marriage. Marriage is a relationship between two people. I have my agreement with the state, which i do not care about. Then i have my religious agreement with my wife, and that is the when i actually care about. That is the way i believe it should be for most americans. The idea that the government would give tax benefits to married couples, it obviously did not work, and now you can get a tax credit for being married. I highly doubt people are getting married for that reason. The answer for religious people, and i am a religious person that believes in traditional marriage, here is the danger, if the state is in charge of marriage, you will get the steak green lighting gay marriage and then using gay marriage as a club against every religious organization in your state. Theires will lose nonprofit status for not performing gay marriage is. Sector ande llc corporate sector, and they will be shut down if they refuse to perform gay marriages. Religious exclusions mean nothing. That is the end goal. The only way to stop it is to get government out of the business of marriage. As far as abortion, and my belief it is the taking of human life him and not just my believe but the believe of science. It is the taking of a potential or current human life. The only fashion of government is to protect life, liberty, or property. That is protecting life, whether it exists inside or outside of a womans uterus. Host a call from california, democrat. Caller ok, this young man here is exactly the very picture of twoparty isrn like. The problem it the modern tea party is like. The problem is they want the government to shrink, yet, on the other hand, they also want the government to get into peopless lives and tell them that they cannot do this and. Hey cannot do that the thing is, the government has shrunk pretty far. That is the problem. When you do not have one single entity for everyone to gather around and make their agreements about, which is what our representatives and senators are supposed to do, then we are not supposed to vote them in to argue with everybody about every little thing they have going. We are voting them in now on who can hate who the worst, and that is absolutely awful. Hate with every word you say. Dont you know that . Host mr. Shapiro . Guest i am not aware of anything i have said that has remotely applied teacher to anybody. I have disagreed with policies on the other side. I may hate their policies, but i do not hate them. As far as the notion the government is not meant for conflict, interest is supposed to counterbalance interest. That is the entire goal of the federal government, to have interest in all its interest. As for the notion that i want to get into peoples lives, i am unaware of any area of American Life where i am suggesting that the government get more involved in peoples lives. I am for decriminalization of marijuana, for example. I do not think the government should be involved in the business of marriage. Government smaller in every area of life except for the protection of life, liberty, and property. I do not believe laws with her guard to abortion have anything to do with filing should the liberty. I do not believe you have the liberty to murder another human being or the potential of another human being. Host republican call from california. Caller i have a couple questions. Is whens to you you talk about government, the and whatovernment, senators and representatives are supposed to do, you do not have what the rolesf of what a senator is supposed to do or what a president is supposed to do. In terms of what their duties are and the roles are, i am a republican, and the president does have executive duties he is supposed to carry out. When it comes to immigration, issue that bush signed. President barack obama has to act upon that. If he does not, he is violating the constitution. So if republicans do not give him the authority to carry it out, then he is violating it. So you cannot call him on one thing and then call them on the other. You cannot have it both ways. Host all right, i think we got the point. 2008 law, ir as the believe the republicans have called for changing the law. Originally president obama called for changing that law, too, until he reversed himself and decided he liked the law because it kept a lot of these Illegal Immigrants here longer. The idea that the president has Unlimited Authority under the constitution is ridiculous. What the president s of 30 extends as far as the constitution the constitution it grants, and it does not grant the president to choose which laws to enforce, and that is what we have seen from this president. The executive branch might imply that it is for executing the it, not choosing which laws feels like executing today or executing tomorrow. Host ben shapiro, editor at large at breitbart, radio , author of six , the peopleecent versus barack obama. So thanks for joining us very early in the morning in california, sir. Guest thanks so much. Delegate Eleanor Holmes norton is next up. After that, Richard Gaines will join us to talk about his groups investigation into the events of 9 11. He is the head of a group called architects and engineers for 9 11 truth. This is the washington journal on the first day of august. Sunday on booktvs. Indepth, ron paul he has written more than a dozen politics and history. His latest, the School Revolution on americas education system. He will take your calls, emails, and tweets on sunday at noon eastern on cspan2. Watch more booktv next week while congress is in recess. It will feature a wide range of topics, including the middle east, immigration, marijuana, and covering look favors and festivals from across the country. Booktv, television for serious readers. This we can, but to be an American History tv take you on a trip across the country for the history and literary life of various locales rediscovered during our citys tour, and theg in washington oyster industry of olympia. The history of r b music, and the restoration of the f 100 jet fighter. See the laboratory of Thomas Jennison in fort myers. Here the voices of the mormon tabernacle choir and salt lake city. That is on booktv and American History tv. On this week is q a she was so beautiful and so smart and also so witty. She was always irresistible to men. Her in her old age, i gave 80th earth they party, and a washington columnist was there. They sat together after dinner having coffee, and at one point she began to stroke his beard. And someone said, heavens, i never met an 80 year old before that i wanted to leap into bed with. She had this quality her entire life. Sharing about their personal relationships in her final years. That is on cspans q a. Washington journal continues. Joining us is Eleanor Holmes norton, delegate from the District Of Columbia, currently in her 12th term in office. Delegate norton, the house is back in session today to work on the border bill. Guest unexpectedly. I am told that some people were literally boarding planes and were told to come back. The house pulled down the border bill. They met for hours, or at least the republicans met for hours, and then they were sent home and told to report back this morning. It appears that the republicans do not want to go home without i am atmething, but some level of doubt as to what thatcan do given reports their Office Remains in wholesale revolt as to what to do. So you cannot do something unless you can agree on what to do. Likely towere not vote on the 659 million that was on the table in their bill, which meant that they had to carry most of it. So i am beginning to wonder why they are coming in this morning, given continued reports of disagreement within the Republican Caucus. Ordertype bill that you can vote for . Guest remember, the reason i am called delegate host yeah, you support. To your say this viewers, although the residents in the District Of Columbia, pay000 americans, they federal income taxes, go to war, do what everyone else does, frankly, and pay the highest federal taxes in the United States, 12,000 per resident, we do not have that final vote on the house floor. To speak on the bill on the house floor. Conscious ofvery what is happening in it the house. I can tell you that, having been on the floor when this fell apart, i would be surprised if put backmpty is together again. Of course, the senate has not passed anything. That is no encouragement for the house to pass something. It creates the possibility that, even in the midst of a crisis, that congress looks like it cannot account to that crisis. That is what this is, a crisis. Get yourant to reaction to a john boehner had to say yesterday. [video clip] this is not about republicans and democrats. It is about defending the constitution that we swore an oath to uphold and acting decisively when it may he compromised. No member of this body needs to be reminded of what the constitution states about the president s obligations to faithfully execute the laws of our nation. No member needs to be reminded of the bonds of trust that have been frayed or the damage that has already been done to our economy and to our people. Are you willing to let any president choose what clause to execute and what laws to change . Are you willing to let anyone terror apart what our founders have built . Think not only about the specifics that you took, but think about how you took it as one body standing together. Talking about the lawsuit against the president. Was a fulltime tenured professor at Georgetown Law School before i was elected. In the history of the United States, the courts have never intervene. The Supreme Court, the federal court. Dispute house has a essentially with another house, the convener said this is for the Affordable Health care act, and you can see there is a dispute between the house and senate on that. So much so that the federal courts do not grant standing to to the congress when it wants to settle disputes not between and among themselves but to get the courts to intervene. It is seen as a political question. The courts should not intervene in political questions. The house would have to show that there is no conceivable way to iron out a dispute that is endangering the government. There are a number of ways. House. S another you can try to reach an agreement with that house. There are so many ways that the courts would have very little reason to thrust themselves into this kind of a dispute. But what is this really about . And say it does not seem like it is going to go anywhere, i think you listen to the voices on the fringes of the Republican Caucus that are calling for impeachment of the president. Then you would see this as a way to stop that and then to have the Republican Caucus, looks like it is at least doing some and for those who believe that the president has overstepped his bounds. Eleanor Holmes Norton got her law degree and masters degree from yale undergrad. Where were you born and raised . Guest thirdgeneration washingtonian. Host i am sure you saw this recent article in the eleanorton examiner Holmes Norton says you dont have a right to know what is going on in government or coke i am sure you have seen this. It is talking about the white house and stuff staying behind closed doors. Guest i have not seen that. Quote you a dont have the right to know everything and a separation of powers government. That is the difference between a parliamentarian government and a separation of powers government. On said that during a House Oversight and government reform committee. With yes, this had to do trying to get an advisor to the testifyt to come to before a committee of the and government reform committee. You can call advisors to the president. You can call cabinet numbers to testify on anything about Public Policy but not about what goes on between that advisor and the president. Notso the president did submit his advisor to crossexamination by the congress, and that is the difference between a parliamentary that is what they have in england and in most parts of the world where the whole government is run by one party. But when you have a separation of powers government, you can call the president s advisers on almost anything except on how he advises the president. This happened to be a Political Office that the president has opened. There are allegations that this office has not done anything wrong with the fact that they opened the office like i thinkdents is the president was well within his executive privilege. Lets take some calls. Airborne, ohio, democrat. Caller yes, i just wanted to butthe congresswoman know, the republicans and eight a party, and a rail against the government and out medicare, social security, and all the social programs, but i am sure ,here are those constituents and i do not understand why people are voting republican. Well, the republicans, i think, true to their views, or at least the tea party, have been quite willing to vote uinin a damage some was their own constituents. Others would say make it clear that they do not wish to spend money. They want to reduce the deficit. That is their chief aim. Of course, there are some back combat agree with them. Remember, they are jen gerrymandering themselves into districts. 75 white districts. That gerrymandering means that when they vote the way they do, they are voting in districts that are pretty monolithic. For example, look at what we did yesterday on the transportation and infrastructure bill. It is a surface transportation bill, a bill that is the most i partisan bill in congress. Do ave had two years to longterm bill. That is the bill that taste for roads, that makes sure you have your transit going, that tilts your brigandage that builds your bridges. Nothing more bipartisan than that. A longterm bill, one that would go for at least six years, certainly at least four years. Because they cannot do projects of the kind of a backlogged, frankly, for roads if they have what we have given them, which is an eight or nine have an month patch. So if we can come up with another patch and react, i am , in roads and bridges republican and democratic districts, yet, the patch is what most democrats had to vote for. We do not control the congress, so we had to vote for this patch, too, even though we strongly disagree with this shortterm approach. The senate had to go along with it. Something. To do that is the situation that the Congress Finds itself in. It is not a very good situation. Ongress is on track whether this Congress Beats the as being the least productive in American History, we will see. Payroll employment increases in july, 2009000 jobs added. Unemployed at rate changes little, 6. 2 . That is a tweet from bls. Lisa, independent line, go ahead. Norton. Hi, mrs. I am not sure i understood you in the beginning. Because you are a delegate, does that mean that you cannot vote in a committee or on the house . Guest i appreciate the question because it must seem very husband. I can be called either congresswoman or delegate, but i cannot be called representative because the people of the District Of Columbia do not have that final vote on the house floor. I can do Everything Else any other member can do. You have seen the on the house floor. Not only do i vote in committee, a chair the subcommittee. I can do anything anybody else can do. There is the vote on the house floor, and to get that, usually, framers certainly intuited that if you pay federal taxes, you get that vote. No taxation without , the people i represent him to the same laws as all of americans and pay even higher rates of taxes, and still have no final vote on the house floor. Host donna, oklahoma city. You foryes, i watched many, many years, and my family d. C. ,visited washington, about five years ago and stayed right behind the smithsonian. We got to stay three days and nights. We were appalled at your license taxationth no representation without taxation and all of the liberalism, the people sleeping on the street. We cannot find a park bench to sit on. The blanketsed to sleep on the sidewalks during the nights right in front of our hotel. World comes to washington, d. C. , and we were and barest, just totally embarrassed at what liberalism we were in at what liberalism has done in washington, d. C. It should be back in the hands of congress to manage. We went by the courthouse and the hordes of hundreds of people, black people needing to showede for trials, it that liberalism is a devastating our capital. I do not think the majority of the American People know it is not just detroit. You had done the same thing to washington, d. C. Host i think we got the point. Guest well, they say that if you go to any big city, is as like you are from a part of the country where there are not large numbers of Homeless People. Simplyaw, you cant sweep the streets of Homeless People. There have been lots of court decisions. If you go to big cities Like Washington or new york or los angeles, yes, youll see that Homeless People can sleep in the streets. I very much regret that. Aboutot like the notions black people awaiting for trial. You do not know what they are waiting for. This city is half black, half white. It is one of the most hospers cities in the United States. It is one of the most prosperous cities in the United States. 1000 people per month moved to the District Of Columbia. In not only has a balanced budget, it is one of the few cities in the United States that has a Renegade Fund of over 1 billion. Or wonder if your state has anything like that. It has the highest level of education in the United States. I do not know which parts you , if you stayed in a lowcost Hotel Downtown near where Homeless People go because there are parks there. But i would invite you to come to the District Of Columbia which is a very diverse city. People of many backgrounds live together. Your comparison to detroit is because it ised, one of the top cities for growth and for prosperity in the United States. I am sorry that while you were here you do not get to see a greater part of the District Of Columbia. We invite you back and extend to you every hospitality. Host a couple issues with , marijuana laws, Second Amendment laws, with the district. What is the influence of congress when it comes to some of these issues . Guest this is a very important question. You do see congress interfering with the affairs of the District Of Columbia, because, congress the recognized that it was wrong to make laws for people who were not accountable to you. If i can make a law if you make a law and i cannot put you in or out, in our country, that is called authoritarianism. We do not allow it. So congress delegated all of its lawmaking authority to the council, the mayor of the District Of Columbia, but there who occasionally see that if they want to override that, they can seek to do it. We have had two members of sought to do that and have done it successfully in the house. The District Of Columbia has passed the marijuana decriminalization law. That does not mean we are legalizing marijuana, but states before us have decriminalized it, and that means you do not get a record, a criminal record. 18 otherknow why the states moved in this direction, but i can tell you why d. C. Moved in this direction. Blacks and whites in our country and in our city use marijuana at the same rates. The arrest rates for blacks was 90 . Ishink that is because there a Greater Police presence in some parts of the africanamerican community. But whatever it was, if a black kid has a drug condition, he is out of the job market before he gets in it. The council moved to change that. Representative andy harris of maryland introduced an amendment which subsequently passed that would wipe out our own ability to make our own law regarding this issue. I believe i will be able to get that changed in the senate. Representative Thomas Massie has , an amendmentaw that is even more draconian, to say that in the Nations Capital , prime terrorist target where people from around the world, including dignitaries, whose lives are in danger, come to no, city there will be none, no gun laws. So you could carry an ak47 in the streets. Congress passed that law. I do not think that that law will stand. I do not think the senate will lead that law stand. It would be a clear and present danger to everybody who comes here because of the special nature of the Nations Capital for people who live here and for officials who come here, that dignitaries. That the courts recently struck down a part of the district law that says you cannot carry a gun outside the home, so the district is trying to make sure that you can carry a gun outside your home, but that would need regulations that would make it unlikely that very many people would be able to do so. Host charleston, west virginia, democrat line. Caller delegate, i am a lifelong democrat. I have also considered myself to be a conservative. I find there is no place in the Democratic Party now for a conservative. I am actually considering, thinking of changing over to the Republican Party. What gets me the most is that if there is any dissension since the election of obama into the presidency, if you do not agree with his policies, immediately your classified as either a wacko or you are a racist, and that is simply because you do not believe in the same things that he believes in. This is every time something goes wrong or doesnt happen, they point the finger at the conservatives saying its her fault because you are working against the president. That is simply not true. It seems like a lot of liberals these days are subscribing to the theory that if you tell a lie enough times, it becomes the truth. I am a little bit tired of it. Guest i certainly hope that you will stay with the Democratic Party. There are many that vote with republicans on certain issues. E more diverse than the Republican Party. Party has tolerated conservatives for a long time. We have people in our party that who believe that abortion should not occur. We have people who are not prolife. You may live in a part of the country where people call people wacko if theyve disagree with you will always that when there is a president in power, most of the people who are of his party will defend him. See where i am in the house of representatives where i every day have good relations with conservative democrats to vote with republicans on every other issue, you will see that our party is very diverse. You would never have that wi th republicans at the moment. They have fallen apart. They could not get a majority of their party to vote for the Border Security bill. I dont think you will find any party in the best shape today. You will find far more diverse the in the Democratic Party where many of my friends vote differently from me and we have the best relations. Host do you have any good relations with republicans . Guest absolutely. The republicans have become a more conservative party. Districts bill, not to have its locally raised budget we raised 60 billion on our own and the congress did not raise a penny of it. It has to pass the budget. As a partly remains of our processes. We have a number of republicans of the tea Party Tradition do not believe that any federal official should pass should have anything to say about anybodys local budget. Example, whofor just retired as majority leader, was one of those. Darrell issa is another one of those. I regard him as a close friend. Although you see republicans and democrats go at one another, you should not mistake that for poor personal relations. I consider many very conservative republicans as friends. Comes fromcall charles in new work, ohio. Republican line. Caller hello. We are listening. Is, i thinkuestion people need to in order for congress to work, with Congress Making their own rules, its impossible because they are so partisan. They need to reform the Committee Selection process so works withy party the minority party. Pickingminority party others to work with on the committees. That way you have more views. You only vote in people you want to work with. I just wanted to get her view on what she thinks of the system. It takes about all the years for this to work. About 12 years for this to work. I thinknot sure charles is talking about designing dividing of the committees. Caller he is saying the republicans controlled the house of representatives. Take the Transportation Committee and republicans get to pick the democrats. Guest i dont think either party wants that. It is done by seniority. The party in control gets more seats in a committee. He get a fair number of seats. We get a fair number of seats. It is not unfair. The problems you see in the Congress Today are within the respective caucuses. United evens pretty with some who disagree on very serious issues. If the border bill had gone to the floor, you would have had democrats who voted with republicans. The problem has come when the Republican Party in 2010, when the twoparty faction became strong in the Republican Party, oehner had a real problem bringing his caucus together because many have not wanted to follow his leadership. He has tried to follow their leadership, frankly. To see if that worked. Sometimes it does. Nothing quite seems to work when you have a caucus which is have split half split. Twohe republicans are into or three different kinds of actions. Politics have always been chaotic. Host by written in baltimore. Democrat. Byron in baltimore. Caller i appreciate cspan and blame people wouldnt cspan for racial hatred. Fear drivesd and the machine. People who call in the obviously havent traveled. How many lawyers might have been in that line . Just to say that you saw black people going to trial is very racist. I live in baltimore. Not too far from d. C. We have more white Homeless People out in the streets. If i was to degrade them and stereotype them, you have Congress Cutting funding for the cutting funding for kids and food programs. Anything that would help a poor person survive daytoday. People calling up here wondering why people are sleeping outside. Congress is doing nothing for black people and white people. Together. In this country who is running everything with corporate america, taking over everything and making fools out of black people and white people, too. So they can keep on doing all the rotten things they are doing to people and we dont even see that. While we are fighting over crumbs and theyre robbing us blind. Theyre cutting everything. Just like the transportation thing. The bridges and the roads are deplorable in america. Host thank you for calling in. His cautionary note about stereotyping and seeing lines and making assumptions is important. We are living in a more and more diverse country. We are going to have a country with the minority becoming the majority. You have to learn to get rid of those stereotypes. You talked about the cuts. There have been huge cuts. We have just come off a period where we had a socalled sequester. The cuts were really draconian on top of cuts that had already been made. We do see people in the streets. We see people struggling for its ae should remember responsibility all of us have to do something about that, especially those of us in congress. Host bob from new york. Independent line. Caller i have a big concern with Congress Going on break seeing as how republicans are just so bent on taking this president to task with impeachment and Everything Else and suing him. The president will exercise his right and demand that congress be not let go for those five weeks and demand they put back into session. And work on the highways and the and work on something reasonable with these kids at the borders. , its i have to tell you very hard for me to say that most americans would not feel the same way. When we are leaving here for five weeks the caller mentions the highway bill not dealt with except over the next several months. People are wondering whether congress is earning its check. Congress would get a lot of respect if it at least took a shorter vacation. If they stay, would they get anything more than . Maybe they should go home and take a breather. Take your pick. From florida on our republican line, this is peter. Peter . Caller hello. Yes. Ould like to speak about she was speaking about infrastructure and i assume that means like a small town in a state where we have our own people in office. People have called about the roads. We finally have some of them out there working. 89 men repairing the roads. Two of them were working in seven of them were leaning on the shovels and seven of them were leaning on the shovels. Longole was about six feet , three feet wide and two feet deep. Host can you wrap this up . Caller i wont mention what party was in office at the time. Why do they put all those men out to work on host any response . Guest its a local problem. It does not have to do with the transportation bill. We put the money out there to talk to your local jurisdiction to make sure its spent wisely. Host michigan. Democrat. Caller good morning. It is an honor to talk to you. I think you are doing a great job. I was just in d. C. Two weeks ago. I was born and raised in philadelphia by my grandfather who is from washington, d c i used to go there as a kid. I was surprised how beautiful d. C. Is looking. I dont know what d. C. They went to it is beautiful there. As far as they Republican Party, they are saying this president has not performed or done a good job. They are out of left field. This president has brought us on the brink of collapse. He got bin laden. The immigration bill has been bad from the beginning. I think hes doing a great job and you are doing a great job and keep up the good work. Guest thank you. Thank you for that bright note an encouraging note. Youre right about the sea you are right about d. C. It is a city that has been transformed. People are moving in great numbers. I appreciate those kind words about our city. The criticism of the president has to come endemic and people see the suit against the president and understand that comes out of the descendent. Tment. Of dissen speaker banner deserves a lot of boehner speaker deserves a lot of credit. I understand why he is doing it. John boehner and i came to the congress at the same time