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Far enough in the role reforms that he announced. Did he go too far . What role would you like to see Congress Take up . Our phone lines are open. Independents can call 202628 0205. If youre outside United States, oh 184. Ber is 202628 a very good saturday morning to you. The president s speech touched on everything from phone records, emails and phone calls, National Security letters and five the courts. We will go over all of that on washington journal. We will have a washington reactions from members of congress. We want to hear your calls and your comments this morning. First, the headlines from that speech yesterday. Heres the front page of the Washington Post. Obama moves to rein in surveillance. Obama dialstribune, up nsa limits. This is the guardian out of u. S. Will no longer store failed phone data. The houston chronicle, restriction put on phone Data Collection. Page of the miami herald, obama reigns in the surveillance machinery. This is the New York Times, obama outlines curbs on phones. Mark lander and charlie savage. To assuret related the audience. The president president obama said that the u. S. Would scale back eavesdropping on allied leaders and ordered safeguards on collecting phone records. , hes long rated response was the finally defensive of security agencies. Fromt to bring you some that speech yesterday. This is president obama talking about the ongoing threats against the red states, saying they are real and growing and that there is a need for the surveillance committee. Prevent attacks without some capability to penetrate digital communications. Whether it is unraveling a terrorist plot, intercepting now where that targets a stock exchange, to make sure air traffic can troll systems not compromised, or to ensure that hackers do not enter your bank accounts. We are expected to protect the American People, that requires us to have capabilities in this field. Unilaterallycannot disarm our intelligence agency. There is a reason why iphones are not allowed in the white house situation room. Intelligence services of other countries, including who are surprised by certain disclosures, are probing our government and private Sector Networks to listen to conversations and intercept our emails and optimize our systems. We know that. Countries,the including those criticizing the nsa, privately acknowledge that we have responsibilities as the worlds only superpower. Capabilitiesnce are critical for meeting his responsibilities. They rely on the information we obtain to protect their own people. Very different takes this morning on the president speech yesterday. This from the hill newspaper. The story notes that they want obama to have a full throated renouncement of snooping practices. Thatve them half measures leaves the program untouched. The strategy seems to be to leave processes largely intact and improve oversight to a degree. This is alex fowler. More and the internet deserves more. That is the hill story this morning. Four different take, we will bring you the lead editorial from the wall street journal. Obamas political surveillance is the headline. President obama joined the debate on friday. This is a conflicted. Host john boehner responded with a statement that was more eloquent than obamas speech. This is from the speakers office, our National Security program exist a reduction terrorist threats and save american lives and they have. Failed the president has to adequately explained the necessity of these programs, ramsey concerns are understandable. Keeping americans safe must be our top priority. The president must not allow politics to cloud his judgment. I look forward to learning more about how the new procedure will not put americans at greater risk. We will review any postal by the administration, we will not erode the integrity and critical programs the keep america safe. That is bigger john boehner in a statement yesterday. Subjectlking about the on washington journal. We will talk with the details of the changes. We want to open the phone lines. In chicago albert is for democrats. What did you think of the president s speech . Morning. Ood why iffirmed for me supported him in the first 2008. I think that back in he was the best person for the job. I agree with everything he has mistakesre have been that have been made, despite all that he is the best qualified person for this job. I support him 100 . Thank you. Host a republican line, jack is waiting from new york. Thank you for calling this morning. Caller i am jack strickland. Concerning president obama, i was not impressed with the speech. He proved to the American People that he is just an empty suit. I would like to say that there is a rumor going around online host i apologize for that. Tom, good morning. Caller good morning. Host i want to get your reaction to the president speech. Caller i cannot believe anything the man says. Since he was voted in, he is had broken campaign promises. Just like the obamacare promises. They were broken. Laws to suitd the his voters. He is going to do the same thing again with immigration. He is just looking to get more votes. With is nothing wrong immigration policies the way they are now. They just need to be enforced. We have good laws. All of our laws have been well thought of. Enforce what is on the books now, we would not need all these new laws. In the surveillance issue discussed yesterday, what do you think the role that edward. Nowden played in this the president downplayed his disclosures and what it meant to the process. What do you think the role is of Edward Snowden am in the debate . Caller mr. Snowden did the right thing the wrong way. He brought it to everyones attention and opened up a lot of peoples eyes as to what is really going on. I think were going to see a lot more come from mr. Snowden. He cantppointed that do it from our shores. Host that is tom from vermont. This is president obama in one of the few times he mentioned snowden speak yesterday. We needed a more robust public discussion about the balance of security and liberty. What i did not know if the time was within view weeks of my speech, an avalanche of unauthorized disclosures would spark controversy that his continued to this day. That we have an open investigation, i will not dwell on mr. Snowden and his actions or his motivations. I will say that our nations thense depends in part on fidelity of those entrusted with our secrets. If any individual objects to government policy can take it into their own hands to disclose information,sified we will not be able to keep our people safe or conduct foreign policy. Moreover, the sensational way in which the disclosures have come out sheds more heat than light. To ourals methods adversaries which could compromise things we may not understand for years to come. Here, the how we got task before us now is greater than simply repairing the damage done to our operations or preventing more disclosures on taking place in the future. Make importantt decisions about how to protect ourselves and sustain our leadership in the world while upholding our Civil Liberties that our constitution requires. Int Edward Snowden comes up the lead editorial in the New York Times. It notice that in the days after wasden revealed the u. S. Collecting data, the president it defended the collection. Friday, mr. Obama gave a speech that was in large part an admission that he had been wrong. The editorial ends by saying the president was right to acknowledge that leaders can no we will notrust us, abuse the data we collect, to earn that trust, you must be forthright about will what led us to be nervous about our agencies. That is the lead editorial in the New York Times. Where having more reaction from viewers this morning. We will be focusing on that during the show. Catherine is up from new york on a line for democrats. Caller good morning. President obama will never satisfy the people on the right or the left. I am more concerned about what is going on with target. That is the problem. It is been going on for years. We know it has been going on for years. I want my freedom, but i want my safety. Edward snowden is sitting in russia, why would he watch what is going on with target and see what happens over there . That is the real problem. I suggest you wake up and see what is going on. Leave president obama alone to do his job. Have a good morning. Host we showed you speaker johnrs john baiters baiters. Proposedesident obama to keep us safe. They go along way toward putting the imperatives of the National Security and liberty in an appropriate and sustainable balance. I have believe that we must maintain rigorous oversight and transparency over the National Security programs. At the same time, we must be sure to provide our professionals with the tools they need to protect our country and defeat those who would do us harm. There are several more statements to show you throughout the show. It pilar talking about the speech. People are talking about the state speech. Robert is on our independent line. Tonighti laid awake watching rebroadcasts of the speech and the critique at the center for foreignpolicy. Host what is your take away, robert . Caller it is one of the best speeches ive have ever seen him give. I would like to know who his speech writer was. I will be impressed if it was him. This reaches a balance between democrats and republicans in a way that he is never done before. Having heard the criticism from the wall street journal and he never really leads. ll be watching to see him this is a very tough issue. I was in the navy. This was in the vietnam era. We have real enemies. We need to do something about them. It is a profound argument. I do not count on the congress to do anything about this. They will grandstand. I am discouraged. I have a revolutionary idea which is have a Foreign Government on the program to conserve the data. I would vote for the brits. Going one bridge too far with that suggestion. The callnk you for from san jose, california. Robert brings up the information of congress and whether they will be able to take up the challenges and proposals that the president put forth yesterday. We talk to the beginning of the here is more of the president explaining what he wants done with that system. Because of the challenges involved, i have ordered the transition away from the existing program will proceed into steps. Immediately, we will only pursue phone calls or two steps removed from a number associated with a terrorist organization rather than the current three. I have directed the attorney foreignto work with Intelligence Surveillance board so that during this transition. , the database can be queried only after a judicial finding or a true emergency. I have instructed the Intelligence Community to use this transition. Newevelop options for a approach that can match the capability and fill the gaps that the 215 program was supposed to address without the Government Holding the data itself. They will report back to me with options for alternative approaches before the Program Comes up for reauthorization on march 28. During this. I will consult with relevant committees in congress to seek their views. We will seek a rational authorization for the new program as needed. Host among those members of congress who have been critical of the president said yesterday is rand paul of kentucky. He says in a statement and a tweet. Here is the cliff notes version. In that is a picture of the bill of rights with the Fourth Amendment banning illegal searches and seizures lacked out blacked out. That is rand paul from a twitter page yesterday. ,oming in over our twitter page what stops the nsa from continued covert data mining . James bamford is doing this in the end 00 hour. He is considered an expert in the nsa and his been writing about it for a very long time. You can ask him about that. Also one clear this morning, referring to Edward Snowden, if it had not been for snowden, obama would not made a speech on security and not had a discussion. On our facebook page, robin cooper writes in about the president s speech. Snowden to wake the masses is a statement from robin cooper. Is making thea case for violating the Fourth Amendment. He pretends to be a constitutional scholar and pretends to care about liberty. They care primarily about control of the people. They have a desire for more power. Comments offading facebook and twitter. Steves in Trenton New Jersey on our democrat line this morning. Take your calling. Caller thank you for taking my call. I am shocked at the gop hypocrisy on this. I understand it is a fine line between safety and privacy. This is the question i have, what if an attack happened on obamas watch that couldve been prevented by some of this surveillance . Supporter but i gave them a pass on some of the things he did to keep the country safe. If you have nothing to hide, you have no reason to worry about giving up privacy. There are things have to be secret. This is in the name of safety. Until an attack happens on obamas watch, that is when things will go out the window. Criticism, the gop is all on one side . Rand paul called for more , some are concerned about those things about continuing to have the Intelligence Committee have the ability to protect United States. Caller i think it is a flip flop. When bush was president , they surveillance and protecting the country by any means necessary. It is ridiculous. Questioned the reason for having the program. It is unbelievable. If an attack happens on obamas watch, they will say did he do everything that he could to prevent it. Host steve from new jersey. Is senator saxby chambliss. The statement from yesterday. As we get into some of the oppose the president called for yesterday, the New York Times has a chart laying out many of the changes we went through and talked about. We talked with the phone records issue. Brings up aiss foreign leaders and foreign nationals. The administration did not address whether they would spy on those countries. John is up next from michigan on our line for republicans. Caller good morning. That of all, i do believe we do need a certain level of security. How far should we go with that . That is debatable. Ae one thing i will say is good share of what is going on in the world today has to do companies that are in are in areasconomy where we should not be in. We need to get out of some of these areas. The ability to sustain ourselves in our own country. This would eliminate a lot of this al qaeda and these that want us out of their areas. I think that is the biggest thing we need to do is get into our own country and take care of ourselves. That is all i have to say. Host jon in michigan on the issue of surveillance overseas and what the president s changes will be. Heres more of what he had to say from the speech just they. Indicated, the United States has unique responsibilities what comes to intelligence collection. We protect not only our nation but our friends and our allies as well. Only berts will effective if ordinary citizens in other countries have confidence that the United States respects their privacy as well. The leaders of our Close Friends and allies deserve to know that if i want to know what they think i will call them on the phone rather than turning to surveillance. In other words, just as we balance security and privacy of home, our Global Leadership requires we balance our requirements and trust among leaders around the world. Reason, a new directive i have issued today will clearly prescribed what we do and do not do when it comes to our overseas surveillance. With, the directive makes clear that the United States only uses intelligence for legitimate National Security purposes and not for reviewing the emails and phone calls of ordinary people. Host more from president obamas speech rate we will show bits of that throughout todays program. This is sabrina in texas. She is underlined for independents. Caller good morning. Thank you for taking my call. I am glad thethat president is addressing this issue. So much of our information is exposed, not just target. Anybodys name in google and pull up all their information. This should be regulated. Are out there. They did put limitations on what is being exposed. Did notnited states have their nose in everybodys business all over the place, you would not have so many enemies. They are trying to run everybodys country outside of the United States instead of taking care of business here. We would not have these enemies and people who are against us. They need to take care of business here. I would truly appreciate it if you would get people on your w that would talk about this is no better than any of the other stations. People talk about Different Things and keeping everybody separate. There are no real facts. Host were going to try to bring you facts and information but we want to be a form where people can talk about their opinions and the public can react to some of these events in washington and speeches like yesterday. I ask you a question about where you put changes for government surveillance, where that ranks for you in terms of issues that are important western mark ward is government surveillance matter to you . Caller we have people here who are committing crimes. They are against america. Einar stand that. Everybodys personal business does not belong out there. We are regular citizens. We should not be exposed. Theres too much going on. Social security numbers, credit card information, all of your stuff is just everywhere these days. They need to have some ofitations on just how much our information is exposed. I am glad he is addressing the issue. Who weknow he will will get office next time next time we could get a republican and who knows what will get done. The Washington Post today talks about politics and discusses how the public is unhappy with surveillance but unmoved. We dont like what we see, but it is not that big of a deal compared to other issues. Callings two different on levels of dissatisfaction with surveillance. It ranks relatively high, this. Here. Wetherbee World Affairs or gum economyr crime, the ranks low in terms of the priority list. The economy is the top priority, according to gallup numbers. About racee is just relations and abortion and the acceptance of gays and lesbians in terms of level of priority. The sums up recent gallup polling on the issue. The us go to larry in tennessee on our lines for democrats. Caller hello. Going to quit snooping it. People are not going to quit spying. Theyre not going to quit hacking. Basically it comes down to who do you want to have that information . Target . Neiman marcus . The taliban . I think the nsa is doing a fine job. The washington journal has become a therapy thing for conservatives to drop the nword or the f bomb. It shows a lot of class. We have to have security. I want to know what my neighbors are doing. I want to know what my officials are doing. I want to know what is going on around me. Why do we say ignorance is bliss and tell everyone to wear or spiders . It does that make sense. You talk about the Global Economy and yet they want to say keep everything selfcontained. Youre talking with a forked tongue. You cannot be part of the World Climate and expect everything to revolve a wound around washington dc. This is from the Washington Post, what was left out of the speech yesterday. In terms of what the president left of the speech, this is a questionable talk to with James Bamford, writer and author about National Security agency issues. Lets go to lamarr who is in georgia on our line for republicans. Good morning. Caller good morning. Is ii would like to say have watched this president on it isl so many lies almost like one after another. I am an older guy. I spent time in korea fighting for our country. Is slowly slipping away. Foronly thing i have hope is a his term will soon be over and we will get in air force one and fly back home. Their,et a republican in i will be glad when i can see it. Thank you. Public rr on our republican line. When our country allows this without a warrant. This is our line for independents. Morning and thanks to cspan. What totalshowcase ignorance is. These democrats that call them , in, the guy from tennessee he wants to know everything his neighbor is doing. Ove to north korea youll know everything you neighbors are doing. Bush wasident implementing the homeland , the democrats were jumping up and down and screaming about privacy. Illinois jumped up and down higher than anybody. He is now president. He has done a thousand times security than mr. Bush did. Back on our independent line. Some of it is we want you to be aware of, the president signed a spending bill to fund the federal government through the september. Nd of among theesterday employees from the Budget Office to put the bill together. The paper is doing stories about what was in that massive 1582 page bill. This is the wall street journal. The story goes on to say the languages put in by idaho republican mike simpson. We will see stories about what is in that bill. It is one of the stories out today. Also in foreignpolicy news, the kabul restaurant in afghanistan leaves 14 people dead. This is from the Washington Post. In other foreignpolicy news, this from the ap, putin says for date visitors to leave the children in peace. Gay and wanted to reassure visitors that their welcome in russia that they must leave the children in peace. More on that story in several, there is a picture of putin along with a story. Back to the phones, we have about pointed left in the segment to take your calls. Are also revisiting the subject and open the phone lines in the 9 00 hour as well. Texas on ourn in democrat line. Caller hello. Whole response to all this. It is true. What the neighbor next door does. However, if the neighbor next door is doing terrorism or committing crimes, Technology Advances everyday. Of course something is going to happen. It is going to change in 30 days from now. And reactiononse to what the president is saying, is doing the best he can. It is more than just him that is involved. You have him, the gop, everyone involved in this situation. What being very rapid of he is doing. When it comes to gun violence, he has everything should be in the United States. Every time i turn around, there something about a shooting at a school or kids dying in a school. It makes no sense. If my information is out there, if it is not something that will kill me, im not doing anything wrong. It is violating my Constitutional Rights of privacy and every thing like that, i can understand that. However, this is what i think should happen. This might be something i saw off of a movie. I think the government should seclude certain woods words to be said. Then that call should be recorded and investigated. Then that email should be investigated. I do not think that every single detail should be noted in office or wherever they put it just because it is not their business what iso outside normally recorded. Host that is adrian from texas this morning. Bring up school shootings, this is the article in the philadelphia inquirer. Talks about a turtle charter high school. Two students were wooded friday afternoon in an accidental shooting. The shooting sent parents scrambled to find out if their children were safe. Let us go to keith in indiana on our line for republicans. Good morning. Carer what i did not about the speech was the president could not look forward. He kept bouncing right to left. Shading. Itf. Eminds me of the same thing security would not be jeopardized by the aca. There was not a lot of thought about that. It makes you wonder. Told a better like Louie Gohmert from texas. He is straight vocal. It is not bounce left or right. Like ron paul, he is straightforward. He will look you straight in the bounce alles not around. You straight vocal point. That is what is important. I contact is everything. You learn that very early on in life. That is disappointing when the imident does not have firm i contact. He is not competent in himself. Says president obama yesterday that there is more work needed to be done beyond the reforms he announced yesterday. Here is a bit of them talking about that subject. Stakeernately, but is it in this debate goes far beyond a few months of headlines or attention to our foreignpolicy. When you cut through the noise, what is really at stake is how we remain true to who we are in a world that is remaking itself at dizzying speed. The ability to communicate ideas, access information that would once fill every great library, or forge bonds with people on the other ise of the globe, technology remaking what is policy for individuals and the international order. The reforms will point us in a new direction, more work will be needed in the future. Yesterday. Dent obama plenty of congressional reaction. Ofmust river the very act there was senator john mccain. His statement was released on his webpage. Questions are left unanswered. Well be joined later in the program by a reporter from roll call to talk about legislation that might be required to implement some of these changes at the president announced yesterday. Back to the phones, dan is in atlanta on our line for independents. Caller they of are taking the call. I do have a couple of comments. That it is too bad he did not acknowledge the contributions snowden made. Collecting all of this information is critical. Files into to be put in lace. We do not allow abuse of the executive or a which on that happened back in the 50s or 60 s. Teresa be a mechanism to allow objectors whoous really have a closeness to what is going on. Basican tell us what the feeling of what is going on. Is it abuse . Is it for National Security . If they can get the word out without having to resort to this kind of thing, these are critical protections to be built in. We are translating on it. People who doow the collection who are at the on. T of what is going they need to have a way out to the congress and the judiciary. We can keep these parts of the government in check. Host that is dan from georgia. This is twitter. Has there ever been a bigger nothing speech than yesterdays . I want to show you a tweet this assange. Rom a julian said alexandria petrie in the Washington Post said the president said a lot about the history of the Surveillance Community and Intelligence Community. If you want to read more on that. Donald is in tallahassee, florida on the line for democrats. Caller can you hear me question mark it is amazing. When you have people who dont even make 30,000. That you cant afford gas or a house you cannot afford to live in. What are we going to hear about this . You dont have anything the government wants. Rush limbaugh. Anything that people want to hear. Who would want to hear that . Donald in florida bringing up some of the issues. The Economic Issues are the highest priority according to gallup numbers. Government surveillance is much lower. This is on their blog at the Washington Post. From westan line virginia. Can i speak my mind . Am i on the tv . As far as surveillance goes, there has always been in all the spies from have had both sides. I am not doing anything illegal if anybody is interesting interested in spying on me is going to get bored. I have a very uninteresting life. In reference to our next president , i think we need a woman. A woman could not be worse than a man. Can i ask you about Edward Snowden . To seemed seem to downplay Edward Snowden in the announcement yesterday. I have not decided about him. Say unless i am sure about something. Spoken cannot be retracted. Control, ion gun think everybody should have a gun or nobody should have a gun. Personally, i do not know how to handle a gun. Gun ifew everybody had a be as crazywould and careless to use it. Host that is from charleston, west virginia. Twitter one other story to point you to this morning is from the New York Times. Robert profile piece on gates, author of the book that has gotten a lot of publicity this past week. That story notes that given the bipartisan halo around mr. Gates as pentagon chief for both president obama and president bush, he was once a highly contentious figure in washington. In that is in the New York Times. He was on that National Constitution center in philadelphia. We cover that on cspan. You can check that out by going to our website www. Cspan. Org. We have a few minutes before we welcome our next guest, James Bamford. We want to get your calls and. Dj is up next and west virginia. Caller good morning. Is i think to say president obama has done a good job. A lot of the things he came out with have been very good. A lot of people have taken it out of context. He is a very caring man. E is trying his best on the surveillance, to keep us out of harms way. The only thing he is having a problem is to keep our judicial system and our government and the different types of the epa protect in order to seniors like myself. We are having problems with the environment. Nobody seems to care how we are forced to have to live. When your state led to have to live in mold and water and say you have to live that way, that is going against your rights. He has talked about being true to yourself and expressing your opinion and having rights. We have rights to live clean and be treated right. The surveillance should be on the people who own robbery and companies who are abusing people that have to live that way. Host you put those Environmental Issues above the surveillance reforms. Issues input those terms of importance above government surveillance and some of these issues . Caller i put them right in with that. I know the president is very concerned about the environment. If he was not, why would we go involving the department of justice and their investigation if that was not important. To lou ins go highland park, illinois on the democrat line. Caller good morning. I think we are talking about surveillance, privacy, and the use of surveillance. Look at what happened at pearl harbor. There was data that we were going to be attacked. The radar control operators did not believe those were airplanes. Ook at 9 11 there was a lot of data showing we were going to be attacked by airplanes. Into theever looked situation further than just accepting the reports. Look at benghazi. There is a lot of data that benghazi was going to be attacked. Surveillance is merely a tool. To wind up in a human beings hands. Hands. We all human beings are sellable. Did dont think so. If you read the news every day, there are so many fallible human beings in the world today that i just do not trust. The government, which is just a collection of human beings and i just dont think the surveillance will provide the that people believe it will. On our republican line, dennis is waiting. Good morning. In regard to the president s speech on surveillance, he has lost all credibility. He showed himself to be untruthful in the past time and again with respect to benghazi putting out the false story it had to do with the video. He would rather immediately that it was a terrorist attack. Also, in regard to our health care, he has shown himself to be untruthful. He is also a deceiver, not just of a certain people but of the entire nation. When he talks he says things that sound good. I dont think he is the government is concerned that his administration, i should say. Unless i Say Something that is derogatory, and then it probably catches his attention. , his surveillance is probably not going to affect most people. Those that he considers to his effortses to socialize our nation, whether it is a politician or a business , then he is very interested in it. He is very interested in collecting data. His efforts to socialize this nation thats going to do it for our first segment of washington journal this morning. We will open up the phone calls in our last segment as well. Next week going to bring you the National Security writer and bamford. Ames on newsmakers this week we were joined by the director of the Consumer Financial protection bureau. That interview airs tomorrow at 10 a. M. And six p. M. On cspan. He talked about what kind of role the Consumer Financial Detection Bureau is playing on. Ehalf of consumers inthe bureau has been existence for two and a half years. Are consumers being treated better capital, i know they are. Better . I know they are. Set up a Consumer Complaint function at the bureau , where consumers can come to us and do this very easily. You can file a complaint with us less than half an hour online. You can call our call centers. There are people standing by in multiple languages. You file a complaint because you think something is happening that isnt right on your mortgage or student loan or bank account. We are getting significant numbers of complaints. Ourfirst year we opened doors on this, we got 600 complaints only on credit cards. More than 15,000 complaints last month. We had 270,000 complaints so far. We are getting relief for people on a number of these, money back where that is appropriate, or getting the problems solved like getting something that was taken or getting something taken off the credit report. The institutions know that with the growing amount of data in that consumer database, we are looking at its to prioritize if we see 100 complaints about arething as opposed to, we going to look at that for potential enforcement action. The institutions know they need to Pay Attention as well. This is back to basics here. Good businesses have paid a lot of attention to what their customers tell them about how they are being treated and whether they are satisfied. Retaining a customer and billing that relationship is a lot easier than going out and taking obtaining new customers. Some of these institutions are large. Its we know creating new pressure on that. We now created new pressure on that. Washington journal continues. Host we are joined by james leaving author and writer of the National Security a leading author and writer of the National Security agency. Aunties more cosmetic reforms . Are these more cosmetic reforms . Guest i think they are more cosmetic than dramatic. A need for him to take some action but it wasnt very it wasnt a lot of action. Were a lot was there of loopholes left in there. There was a lot of ambiguity. A lot of things were left to be decided by the director of National Intelligence, the attorney general by different. Oards, so it was an opening overall ideas, we are going to do a little bit of this, do a little bit of the a little bit of that. It was pretty much left up to the director of National Intelligence and the attorney general. Host what did he leave out to . What was noticeable in that it wasnt mentioned yesterday . Guest quite a bit. Things i think a lot of the people in the computer were disappointed about was the fact that there was no mention, really, of changes in the system where the government andaccessing Computer Data weakening encryption. That is one of the big problems with the computer industry. There is an enormous drop in the amount of people that are buying encryption American Technology because of the worry that there is a ultimate backdoor by nsa. Backdoor by the nsa. Formedel the president made 46 recommendations and he only touched upon a couple. Anythingt mention about the zero day exploits, that is when the government actually develops systems to break into computers. These are ways to get into programs like windows, google, it. Hatever, and exploit in other words put malware in there. There is an industry develops in the United States to create these zero day exploits. He said nothing about that, even though the panel recommended restricting the practice. Panels a lot in the report that he did not touch upon. You wrote several books on the nsa. As you look at those 46 recommendations that the panel , was veryresident surprising issue the president s took from the panel and included in his speech yesterday . The most controversy always the Metadata Program controversy over was the Metadata Program. Al was theersy major data program. Program. Tadata a grandma calls from topeka, kansas, there is a record for that. Nobody asked me if they could collect my telephone records, nobody asked anybody. All of this is done in total secrecy. Transparency was one of the issues. There was a bit more of that. They aredent said basically going to take it out of the hands of the nsa, but that is all he said. He did not say where they were going to go, what they were going to do with it. That is to be determined. It is going to be left to the foreign Intelligence Surveillance court to issue or orders to get access to it. The court has not had a terrific record interrific government. E they are cosmetic, that is the best i can do. You bring up host host bring up the foreign intelligence court. Here are some of the changes the president hopes to make their. [video clip] and fortify to save the privacy of u. S. Persons. Since we began this review, including information being released today, we have declassified over 40 opinions and orders of the foreign Intelligence Surveillance court, which provides judicial review of some of our most sensitive intelligence activities, including the section 702 Program Targeting foreign individuals overseas and the section 215 telephone Metadata Program. Directing the director of National Intelligence in consultation with the attorney general to annually review, for the purposes of declassification, any future opinions of the court with broad privacy implications. And to report to me and congress on those efforts. Ensure that the court hears a broader range of privacy i am also calling on congress to authorize the establishment of a panel of advocates from outside to provide an independent voice in significant cases before the foreign Intelligence Surveillance court. Host the president talking about an independent voice in significant cases. Can you complain what he might mean by that seattle by that . To knowt is hard for me what a significant cases, it is not exactly a legal term in the point is legal term. The point is he should appoint a person to be an advocate of the people who are about to be eavesdropped on. There were too many of these , to beshy words determined later. It can be determined either positively or negatively. The old cliche is the devil is in the details. There has to be. Ransparency on these details to make an announcement like this it shed some light on it but it does not give you the nittygritty, the details on how it will work out. And he said nothing about the recommendation to get Court Approval for National Security letters. There were 46 recommendations, he probably touched on half touched on less than half a dozen. We are talking with James Bamford, here to take your calls and comments. The phone lines are open. If you are outside the u. S. , it 3883. 2585 you are doing interviews last night. Can you talk about the reaction to the speech overseas as you have seen it so far . Guest there was a lot of disappointment, at least from the people i talked to. A, sort of a made recommendation sort of approved the recommendation not to target foreign leaders. He did not specify which foreign leaders. He just said partners. That is not really that big of a concern to the average citizen over there. There was Something Like 70 million pieces of data from french citizens that the nsa picked up in a month an. There was a lot of worry that the nsa is going to keep doing what it is doing. Commentident did make a about having similar types of protections in terms of what they are looking for, terrorism and that kind of thing, not going after personal information. Still, there was no discussion about restricting the amount of collection, the amount of eavesdropping and so forth. I think that has them worried. That is a big concern here the old cliche is everybody spies, so i be concerned about us spying so why be concerned about us spying . Those countries dont have the largest Internet Companies and their home base as we do. I having that accumulation of data corporations, the nsa has the ability to go by having the accumulation of data corporations, the nsa has the ability to go with a warrant and knock on the front door. What was really needed was a charge committee, a committee that was similar to the one that by themed in the mid70s head of the senate Intelligence Community. They lifted up every rock to see what was underwritten in the Intelligence Community and they came up with enormous numbers of recommendations am a lot of transparency into what had been going on. Out is what is needed. That is what is needed. By putting the next step on congress, has the president opened the door for a Committee Like that to be formed . Guest its possible. Not need thedoes president s approval to form a Committee Like that. I think that was more passing the buck by the president. The problem is congress hasnt had a tremendous record on privacy over the last few years. More concerned on giving the nsa what it wants rather than giving the Civil Liberties and Privacy Committee what it wants. It was more Firm Decisions by the president then this wishy well form some committees. Than this wishywashy, well committees. Line forfirst is our democrats, seattle, washington. I want to talk about the nsa. Their surveillance is it is not so much the foreign countries, it is the people in this country that is going to be the next danger to our government. Eventually the way they are treating the middle class and or, they are going to have enough of that. When they arrest somebody and forthem in incarceration investigation, they will pull every bodys phone record to see who they have been talking to. My nephew works construction down here in tacoma, just south of seattle, towards the east. They are building large buildings that are in the hundreds of thousands of square feet. There are three stories tall with no windows, no skylights, they are blank. They build these buildings, close them up, fence the minute, and they are not occupied at all. They just finished up a 280,000 foot Square Building and they are in the process of closing it up. Aen they are going to start 600 80,000 squarefoot building squarefootfoo building. The people are going to have enough. It is just like what happened in turkey, when they closed down a park and people have enough. I think it is moving in that direction where the people are beginning to object to this. Started after 911 with after 9 11 with all the attention on counterterrorism and all the restrictions and security and so forth. There was very little thought about Civil Liberties and privacy in those issues. Now that we are a dozen years or so after 9 11, i think the momentum is starting to turn back to, lets get back to reality now. There are other issues in the world other than protecting us from terrorism. There is protecting us from the u. S. Government, from their eavesdropping capabilities. , the nsa was focused externally. That is the way it is supposed to be. We dont use the army and navy domestically. They are designed for adversaries overseas. After 9 11 the nsa was turned inward, which is against its original organizing rules. It has been that way ever since. Dealnk there are a great of people in the United States that are beginning to worry about the nsa. I have been writing about for 30 years. I have seen momentum prior to the snowden revelations. There would have been to people in congress that would have voted to start restricting nsa activities. After his revelations, there were almost the majority. They are five votes short of the majority. I am seeing that progression of american citizens who are beginning to worry about all the surveillance. If you of your books on the subject, the shadow secrets, tody of name a few. Has the nsa Surveillance Program uncovered any planned terrorist attack . Just looking at the different programs, when the nsa came out they said there were 54 programs they helped stop and they keep reducing those. On the Metadata Program, which is the most controversy oprah program program,roversial there has only been one incident that they have been able to detect since 2001, and that was a person in san diego who sent 8,000 to a group in somalia and had nothing to do with United States. Positivent been any things that have come out of that Metadata Program. The other ones, the 53 other part of awere different program, called the prison program. That is where they actually get court order to get access to data. Of that is not as that is not as controversial. Data program has been virtually useless but they still want to keep it go the Metadata Program has been virtually useless but they still want to keep it going. Earlier you mentioned National Security letters. Can you explain what those are and what changes the president announced yesterday . Guest the National Security letters, there are two ways of getting access to your information. One is going to record and showing you have probable cause and then the court will decide whether or not that is true and the will issue a warrant to Law Enforcement organization, fbi or whatever, to get your records. The easier way is the National Security letter. It does not involve going to a court. All it involves is having a letter written by the justice , pleasent, saying give this person access to all records. It eliminates the court from a role in the National Security letters. The recommendation is to have National Security letters go through the press system host from the president s panel . Guest he apparently rejected the recommendation and left the security letters the way they are before. There may have been some slight modifications, possibly. Host david is up next from portsmouth, ohio on our line for republicans. You are on with james alford. With James Bamford. Concern on surveillance for the country is i believe we should use all prakashans all precautions to know what is going on around the world and even in our own country because i believe there is people in our own country that would like to destroy it. I believe we need to take all an order to maintain our freedom in order to maintain our freedom from our enemies. I also think snowden has betrayed the United States. I dont think he is a hero. Absolutely beuld shot as a traitor. From ohio bringing up Edward Snowden, the nsa leaker. Your thoughts he e your thoughts . I believe he is a heroic whistleblower. There is no indication he is a traitor. He did not sell secrets to Foreign Governments for profit, he did not do any of that. He gave the documents from the nsa and gave them to journalist organizations. Host the pentagon papers . Guest yes, like the whistleblower for the pentagon papers. Journalists. To what is interesting is the president s comments yesterday one of the things the president said is, this debate will make us stronger. We would not be having this debate without Edward Snowden. If i was his lawyer that is one of the first things i would tell the jury. How could you be charging this person as a traitor when the president himself said he has made the country stronger . Didnt the president take credit for starting this debate before the leaks . Guest there was no debate before the leaks. I have been following this issue very closely. The nsa does what it wants. This is the First Time Since the wiretapping scandal of the Bush Administration and before that, the scandals that involved the Church Committee led to the beenh committee, there has almost no pushback on nsa spying. With regards to the comments of of spying as much as possible in the u. S. , that is the attitude used in the stasi. In the stasi period. Protect the country because everybody may be a danger. So they eavesdropped on everybodys communications. And you can see where east germany went. You cannot have that in a country like this. There are certain dangers. Safer way would be to have unannounced visits by the week, searching for prohibited items or whatever. But who wants that . If you want safety on the highway we can reduce the speed. Imit to 30 Miles Per Hour but we dont do that because you have to accept some risk in a democracy the north have freedom in a democracy in order to have freedom. From twitter it was a secret until snowden came along. The taxpayers should know how much we are paying for the nsa. Snowden revealed its and low and behold the country survived area host what is survived. Host what is the range of the budget . Nsa was 10 billion, the cia was 15 billion. In recent years the cia budget increased above the nsa budget, largely because of the cost of drones, the drone warfare the cia is involved in. Is a hefty amount of money that goes into electronic spying. To alan in sanford, maine on our line for independents. You are on with James Bamford. I very much admire you. I would put you in the same in terms ofsnowden whistleblower. , enjoyed your original book which was the first real whistleblowing on the nsa. In terms of secrecy, the overall aspects of secrecy in this country, i think what is occurring because of snowdens revelations is really just the tip of the iceberg. Secrecytially have related to multiple segments of our society, the corporate, whichal, militaristic would include the nsa and cia program, particularly with the Drone Program now, the media, which is a propaganda sector of the country, the extralegal sector, which is a violation of the constitutional legality, and the faux political segment of the operation. But i would not call the operation a country anymore. It is an empire. Togetherhis all falls and it makes eminent sense. But the revelations about nsa and the intelligence state, it is more than an and had intelligence then an intelligence state, it is a corporate state, a police state. Disguised global empire. Not that the United States is the only part of it, it is certainly the nominal and perhaps temporary headquarters of this disguised global empire. Globaln empire that is in scope. I think that is why the american empire project, which was chomskywritten about by electives, itf political as unpolitical to criticize the u. S. You can certainly look at it that way. The u. S. Has been expanding around the world in terms of these secret wars, the drone wars, for example. Only one drone attack in yemen in his eight years. The Obama Administration has turned this into a major secret war. Is totally secret. It was very abusive. That backnot realize in december of 2009, when president obama had been in no that had been in office for less than a year president obama had been in office for less than a year, it was done by cruise missiles loaded with cluster bombs. Cluster bombs are outlawed in 109 countries because theyre so devastating to civilian public to the civilian public. They missed their target, they got Something Like 50 women and children killed. And then the president lied about it. The president of yemen who authorized that terrorism attack. Attack he called the president and congratulated him on it, when in fact it was the u. S. Who did it. A lot of these revelations have come out by whistleblowers. That revelation had come out by when he Chelsea Manning released these documents. It showed the meeting between general petraeus and the president of yemen. That is why people think this is becoming an empire. We are putting drones around the sendingd now we are nsas eavesdropping capability around the world to gather information from countries all around the world. These people think we are getting back into the business of empire, the modernday empire with drones and cyber warfare and eavesdropping rather than british version with great ships on the high seas. Host on twitter carl in georgia on our line for democrats. James bamford, National Security writer and author. Caller good morning. It has already been stated that hello . On the tv and go ahead with your questions. Caller thank you. The president is limited to what he could say. If you is definitive in every detail then there would be critics that would have something to say about that as well. I am not convinced that the nsa s actions are minute. Mr. Bamford has indicated that in his 30 years about writing and his 30 years of writing about the nsa. Because it is president obama, he is going to have back lash with everything he said. When president bush was in, everybody was afraid to Say Something about that because of the patriot act and all the things that were implemented during that particular time. Nobody dared to say anything. They were all silent. Carl, do you think people are still afraid to Say Something at this point . I think they have an opportunity to speak out more than they have to ring president bushs term. They would single you out and now people can Say Something , despite the work of the government and what they have to do. We are more freer to Say Something. It is made more public now. Host do you agree with that assessment . Guest i do. After 9 11 there was this jingoism. Everybody had to salute the Bush Administration and nobody could criticize it. I remember fox news came out and everybody on air had to wear little flags on their lapel. There were a lot of people who againstimidated toaking out intimidated speak out against the government. Intimidated against speaking out against the government. Nobody wants to criticize the government because that is how these abuses eventually occur. I think it is much more healthy know where you are getting them a getting far more people who are criticizing what the government is doing. We showed of clip president obama, he talked about declassifying more documents. Do you think this will lead to more folks like yourself being able to write about the nsa, and how do you view the classification from your perspective and your past dealings trying to get the classified documents . Hold my am not going to breath that there is going to be a lot of the classified a lot documents. Fied measure, the any nsa does not release an awful lot of information. Nsa stoodke was the for no such agency. Now it stands for not secret anymore. I dont think there is going to be not secret anymore. I dont think theres going to be a lot of transparency. That will come from whistleblowers. Host we go to marshall in illinois on our line for republicans. America. Ever serve it is refreshing to hear something neutral and honest. To quote rahm emanuel, let no crisis go to waste. Couldnt we use this metadata to go after these telephone scam artists . Use the metadata that should be use it to track down these people . On do not calld lists here in chicago. They have done symposiums on this through the ftc, talking about how people are inundated even if you are on a do not call list. Let me close my question with, hopefully you have this in one of your books close my question with hopefully you have this in one of your books and franklin said if we compromise up any of our liberty in the name of security than we deserve neither. Thank you very much, i appreciate you reading my book. I have always admired that comment about having security versus freedom and so forth. If you want more security you lose the freedom. That is what happened in east germany with the stasi. They had no freedom. The idea of the u. S. Is to have a proper balance. I think that is why we are having this debate right now, to find out where that balances. In terms of using the metadata for other purposes, such as going after people who abuse the telephone system, i get those calls all the time also. On the surface it sounds like a good idea. Whole idea of collecting metadata, collecting everybodys , is somethingers that has to be debated by the public. It cant be something that the congress and government unilaterally does. Those are interesting ideas and i think the congress should look at it. It would be far more useful to thanat with the metadata what they are doing, which isnt very usable. A question guest that is one of the interesting things, what can be done with metadata. I am what is known as a party in this court. Tryingin california is to get the government to stop the Metadata Program. One of the things we argue in that suit is one of the problems of the metadata system is it takes away peoples length of assembly. If you are having an antiwar demonstration or a Group Meeting naacp or aer reason, religious group, the government will be able to know about that because everybody will be calling in to make a reservation or calling the different groups. That is one of the problems with the Metadata Program, it gives the government access to whenever anybody is trying to assemble. That is one of the freedoms that america is supposed to be guaranteed, the freedom of assembly without the government interfering. These two suits have come out, who agreedngton the Metadata Program is largely unconstitutional. Then you have an opposite view in new york. There is a third case that hasnt been decided yet come a which is talking about the First Unitarian Church against the nsa in the ninth circuit of california. Would any of these make it all the way to the Supreme Court . Guest i think they will all make it to the Supreme Court eventually. You have a split between the new york and washington, where the ifornia judge will decide it is yet to come out. One site is going to lose. In all these cases, the losing side will go to the Appeals Court in the losing side in the Appeals Court will eventually go to the Supreme Court, where it will take one of the cases or all of the cases and try to make a decision on it. We are talking at least a year or more for that. It is working its way through the court system. We have 20 minutes left with James Bamford as we discussed the intelligence and surveillance reforms the president announced yesterday. In this segment we also have a line for folks outside of the u. S. We would love to hear their responses to the president s speech. Also have our line for independents, democrats, and republicans. On our independent line, daniel is waiting from pennsylvania. Good morning. Caller thank you for taking my call. , my wonder is is the Security Company now in the United States or is it in israel . Ihere was another israel Security Company that works with the nsa. Do you have any thoughts on that . H, i wrote about those areas in the shadow factory, my last book. I think what the gentleman is erring to is one the nsa when the nsa began this whole of Monitoring Communications in the United States it built secret rooms in these telecom companies, like at t. Like at t, where the communications summoned to the United States and would be diverted into the secret rooms would comeations into the United States and would be diverted into these secret rooms. Israelny was formed in that had an office in california. The nsa purchased their equipment and put it in these secret rooms, which leads a lot of people to wonder whether there would be any connection to israeli intelligence. The company had been in israel at one time. Those are concerns. This is software made by a company and some hardware where all the communications are passing through. It is a serious concern in and sun. The company was recently bought by boeing serious concern. The company was recently bought by boeing. When you are having Companies Foreign from companies that are involved with u. S. Surveillance, that is something people should be concerned about. Host go back to the specific proposals the president announced yesterday it how much of a pushback you think the white house is going to receive from foreign and Intelligent Community members as he tries to move forward with some of these plans . Guest i think he has received a lot of pushback from them ever since the panel report came out. The panel report was very much dash coming down on the side of civil comingns on the down on the side of civil libertarians. The former Deputy Director of the cia, the former counterterrorism czar, they all came to the same conclusion. These areas should be reformed. But ate same time the same time the white house has been getting pushback from the nsa director, keith director and as a Keith Alexander nsa director and intelligence director. That is why you see the withtics of this proposal a lot of leeway and loopholes that could be modified very easily to bring the system back to the way it always was. Henry is waiting in michigan on our line for independents. Hugh are on with James Bamford. You are on with James Bamford. Jamess main function is to write Conspiracy Theory books. Has ever charged me with coming out with a Conspiracy Theory. There are a lot of facts or just want to correct you. Hader excuse me, you have your turn to talk for quite some time. I would like to have mine. Feedswrites books that kiddie porn watchers host im going to cut you off right there. We will move onto the next caller. Caller good morning, cspan is a national treasure. I would like to take some time onmr. Bamfords assertion spies doing it for money. They do it for money but they also do it for ideological reasons. Mr. Snowden offered to sell some of his documents to places like brazil for asylum. Maybe he is a spy or traitor. Calling mr. Snowden a whistleblower is a throwback. In addition to the metadata ction efforts of the nsa metaData Collection efforts of he also revealed programs that have nothing to do with the rights and privacys of domestic americans. This man is a traitor. I go back to my definition, he is a whistleblower because he released this information to the press. You make them public, that makes you a whistleblower, not a spy. The fact we had the president come out yesterday and say that this debate will make us havingr, we would not be this debate without his revelations. Edward snowden did not release a lot of this information, he gave them to a journalist. The journalist took a look at the documents, decided what should be and shouldnt be released and released only that information that had to do with nsau. S. s involvement on spying on on the u. S. It on the nsa spying on u. S. Citizens. That is the way whistleblowing works i. There at the nsa every day and every night and decide what to take. He took a lot of material out and turned them over to a journalist organization, sort of an impartial group that did a review to see if there was anything that would be damaging. We looked through the pentagon ended a war we shouldnt have been in sooner. President obama said this is making the country stronger. I disagree he is a spy. Believe he is a whistleblower, according to the normal definition of whistleblowing. What you think happens to snowden . He had a oneyear asylum in russia. What are his options when that year runs out . Very limited options. He can ask for another year or for permanent asylum. Only in russia because the United States put him in russia. Kong with a ticket going to ecuador. , he had left hong kong to change hong kong he had to change flights in moscow. The government canceled his passport. He had no valid travel documents. That is why he was in the airport for so long. Fly out ofs to moscow was impossible because the u. S. Forbid any planes from flying over the european territory. They got the european governments to cooperate. The president en of bolivia tried to fly back government would not let the plane fly because the u. S. Said snowden was on the president s plane, the president of olivias plane. Ofy forced the president olivias plane. Of bolivias plane. That is why he is where he is. He did not plan to go to moscow in the first place. A caller in jefferson on our line for independents. Caller thank you for taking my call and for what you do. For thehave a question folks who are tea party conservatives. We have been called jihadists, racists, and i wonder if anybody expects us to believe that we are not being listened to. When i hear from the president that we are just listening to terrorists and looking for do people expect we are not being listened to . I heard a comment mentioned. Esterday mr. Obama said he wanted to give more oversight to the executive branch. Poweropinion that is more to someone who is abusing the power now. In terms of oversight of the u. S. Government, that is the problem i have seen all along. Theres too little oversight. With the tea party, it is interesting because a lot of the Tea Party People are agreeing with the liberals on this issue in terms of the overreach of government power and eavesdropping and so forth. Principle is that the government should not have as much power as it has. There is a fair amount of eement between tea party real conservatives, not just republicans but real conservatives and liberals on the whole issue of this warrantless eavesdropping, nsa spying, and so forth. Example, the court case here in washington were judge leon made the decision, the plaintiff a verycase was conservative scientist. The judge himself was very conservative. Conservative. The judge himself was very conservative, he was appointed by george bush. Coming together, to some degree, of true conservatives the liberal people are looking for Less Government in terms of eavesdropping. People are coming together on this issue. Host a couple of tweets for you. We need more people with a conscience like you. Keep up the good work grid ray right in that the nsa did not comport with the Fourth Amendment. Can i ask you about the history on the subject . President obama said that he maintained a healthy skepticism for Surveillance Programs. Does the evidence bear that out . Guest yes. That is what is so interesting. There are two obamas here. The obama, the candidate grid obama, the president. Saidhe was running, he that he did know one expansion of the nsa. Companiesthe telecom to warn about this wiretapping program. That fell in line with his ideology. He took withthat him to his career. That is the ideal lot ideology that a lot of people are following. He changed as soon as he became president. All of a sudden, he basically went to the right of george bush on a lot of these issues. First of all, he tripled the number of forces in afghanistan. He could have ended it in the first six months. He continued the war for his two terms. He increased the drone war. The Bush Administration only had one attack in yemen. He increased that enormously. On National Security, he let the nsa do whatever they wanted. That is completely opposite from the way he campaigned. I think that is disappointing to many of his supporters. Host and he is waiting in pennsylvania on the line for democrats. Caller good morning. I was just going to say about the same thing. I voted for president obama and the first term. In the second term, i the same thing. My comment was going to be that after the first term, he the media was supposed to be the watchdog. Ignorede more or less the scandal and stuff that has gone on in this residency. I have Great Respect for your speaker. I was wondering what his thoughts were. Ignoring fox and those places. What are his thoughts on the media and what they are ignoring . What are papers his thoughts on how the press is covering the root of all of the needs of what the press needs to do to cover things in this nsa controversy. Thank you. Guest i agree 100 . The media has been very weak. I have been very critical of the media. I think that the Mainstream Media has largely left this whole issue go unreported. Se pieces were going on they came out once from the New York Times. Then it was forgotten. The Mainstream Media pretty much never went after this issue. I think that the if this was the Bush Administration, the media would be far more aggressive on this issue. The only reason you have the Washington Post reporting on this and the New York Times was because of snowden. Snowden made the leak. Before this, the Washington Post was not doing that much aggressive work on what the nsa was doing in terms of mastic you striving. Media hask that the not been up to snuff on the whole issue. It would have been if the Bush Administration was in power. Host one must call in for you. Gavin is waiting on the lines for republicans. Caller hi, james. Thank you for coming on. Paint a is, i want to scenario and get your comment. Is there any chance that you that ourk think created these terrorists and radicals . Guest i think that all the studies that have come out agree with that. Every time you have a drone attack, youre killing scores. Hundreds of thousands of innocent people. They have been killed in these raids. All of the studies say that every time you kill a relative, the relative has other relatives. They have children and parents and aunts and uncles. You are helping radicalize people who would not necessarily have been radical in the first lace. It has not accomplished anything. What has happened with these attacks in yemen . Me, it was astounding that the Obama Administration began this enormous attack. I do not think it has produced a meeting. Anything, it has produced more terrorists. Guest host you talked a lot about Edward Snowden. What is the nsa doing right now to prevent another Edward Snowden . You know the agency. What changes are taking place to keep these leaks from coming out . I am sure that they are trying to make some changes. That is really the key issue here. From the revelations Chelsea Manning, the leaks that came out, the word that went through the government was tightening up. You have the director of the nsa who is responsible for keeping the government secrets from being leaked. That is part of his job. Protect the u. S. Governments secret information. Failure for one year or so. You had snowden, who was a contractor 6000 miles away from washington. 1. 7 millionto take documents out without the government knowing. He showed up in hong kong and revealed himself. It is an enormous amount of incompetence. Theres almost no accountability from the Obama Administration. If he had been the captain of an Aircraft Carrier that crashed into the rock of gibraltar, you cash he would not be stealing that ship anymore. He would not be sailing the ship anymore. Host he is the author on several books of the nsa. Thank you so much, as always, for coming on. Guest my pleasure. Continue tot, we get your reaction on the story and the president s speech yesterday. We will open our phones back up to colors. We will be right back. Yes, Internet Service providers are gatekeepers. They also are twosided networks. Somebody on one side and somebody on the other side. The situation then is very similar to the credit card industry. We all have credit cards. Then there is the credit card company. Then there is the restaurant. It is very useful for restaurants that we all have credit cards. It is useful for us that all the restaurants will take them. Useful if the gatekeeper says that some of these restaurants will not allow them to participate in the system. Translating that to the present, it is the Internet Service provider who will say that not all of the people who are putting content on their computers not all of them will have access to all of the users. That is a problem if a gatekeeper behaves that way. This weekend, a look at a ruling on broadband and highspeed internet regulation. This morning at 10 00 on cspan 2. The story behind Martin Luther king junior today at 3 30. At American History tv looks emancipation, reconstruction, embrace. Sunday morning at 11 00. When you go behind the see,s, you are there to not listen or repeat anything that you hear. It is kind of a mutual agreement. , that let in two meetings are sensitive. I was obviously i was there when president obama was at a rally. Hurricanee time, the had come up the east coast. He was on the phone on a secure phone. He was talking to a senior director and trying to organize. A really unique time to be in there. Key, seriousin a conversation about what was going on on the ground. How he wanted things to take place. Organizing that. On the other side of the wall, people are banging 4 more years. It is a unique time. Doug mills, sunday night at 8 00. Journalngton continues. Host were back. Our phone lines are open to take your calls on the president s speech yesterday. We have spoken about this all morning. The president announced the phone lines are on your screen. Here is a headline from one of the stories in the Guardian Newspaper out of london. Obama reforms received mixed response in europe and brazil. About thelking statements from officials around the world from the president s speech yesterday. Angela merkels spokesperson said that germany will analyze the announcement carefully. Many people are rightfully concerned about the safety of their private data after reports about nsa activity. We welcome the protection of data and personal rights. A source close to the deputy Prime Minister in the u. K. Says that a lot, but not all of what president obama has to say, has relevance to the u. S. It is also clear that there is more open debate about surveillance than we are having in this country. Made it clear that he wants that debate to happen here. We will have them in march. That is a wrapup of the statements from folks around the world. We want to hear your reactions and comments. We have 45 minutes left. Kevin has been waiting in concorde, new hampshire. On the line for democrats. Caller thanks for having me on. Host your thoughts on the speech yesterday . Caller i thought it was a good speech. In reference to the prior toaker, i wish you were on take my questions. ,y point to him would have been he mentioned whistleblower protection. For snowden. The whistleblower act requires reporting to a supervisor. Snowden did not do that. On the topic of unconstitutionality, this program was passed by two branches of congress and signed by the president of the United States. If itld be shocking to me were declared unconstitutional at the Supreme Court level. I will take my answer offline. Host kevin from new hampshire. Charles is waiting on the line for republicans in california. Thanks for getting up with us. Caller good morning. How are you . Host did you watch the speech yesterday . Caller i did. The president is not credible. And i a speech writer feel that he is not he is making statements that do not matter. As far as the information, mr. The president is an idiot. He did not know what this or he did know what this week would do for our country, which would make him a traitor. Was charles in california. Now to michelle richardson, legislative counsel for the american Civil Liberties union. They give for joining us. I want to ask you about the aclu response to the speech yesterday. Guest good morning. We were really disappointed in the president s beach. He took some steps to recognize the status of the government is sensitive. There are implications. He did not go far enough. We have discovered that they are collecting email and internet records. Phone records. His response was very narrow and only addressed one program. Wonderful records collection program. The next step for us will be to push congress. To think more broadly. To talk about the patriot act. The wiretapping programs. The government cannot collect information from people anymore. Host coming out of december, the president review panel released recommendations. What were your expectations heading into yesterdays speech . Guest sadly, the president did not embrace the recommendations of his own review group. I have not tallied them up, but of the 46, he may be took up five or six of them. Were disappointed that even the handpicked review group, which includes people that are in the Homeland Security department and cia, has Less Authority than the president here. We are still waiting to hear from congress. This next round will have to be broader and more comprehensive reform. Host what is the aclus take on the president s amount announcement yesterday of moral protections more protections for nonus citizens . Guest we welcome that he recognizes that people overseas have rights to. He did not have a lot of detail. This is an area that will require a lot of discussion. Important is very that we look at these International Collection partners and raise the standard for everybody. They arericans incredibly low. We want the government to keep and use our information very broadly. Extend our rights to people abroad. That will not solve the problem for either of us. Counsele legislative for the aclu, we appreciate you joining us this morning. Guest thank you. Host our phone lines are open for viewer reaction. We will talk about that for the next 40 minutes or so to end out the program. Lets go to air it, waiting in california. On the line for independents. Eric, good morning. Caller i was cynical going in to listen to the president. After listening to him, i am impressed. I think that the United States went crazy after 9 11. Sudden, we went overboard. Way overboard. The patriot act is going to be ending in 2015. Everybodys talking about it. Everybody say their piece. Up with a newome arrangement. That is all i have to say. Host thank you for calling in this morning. Comments from an email that was sent to us. The email is journal cspan. Org. Thesays it seems to me that best security would be the result of economic equality and Healthy Family l use. Erica is waiting on the line for democrats. She is in san diego, california. Caller good morning. With all of the technology that we have, every country is listening. This is not going to go away. I could not care less. Goodbye. Host erica from california. Were taking your phone calls in the last segment. We will also show you headlines from around the country. In nonintelligence news, here is a profile piece on michael formerrgs return to his company after leaving the Mayors Office in new york. This is in the business section of the New York Times. After leaving office, he is more hands on at his old company. Meeting, Michael Bloomberg gave clear signs that he would not be taking a hands off approach as he returned to his old company. Indicate what coverage interested him, like the traffic scandal involving Chris Christie in new jersey and the romantic problems of france while all along. Hollande. Is this is not what the company had expected upon his return after three terms as mayor. He said that he would never go back to running his old company. We want to bring you more on that profile piece on mr. Bloomberg. That is in the New York Times, business day section. He brings up Chris Christie. 20 of news on that front out of new jersey. Heres the front page of the starledger in new jersey. Former insiders, along with two organizations, have been given two weeks to surrender documents, emails, messages, and blogs to the Assembly Committee investigating the scandal. The story the outgoing chief of staff and incoming chief of staff, chief spokesman, chief counsel and Campaign Manager were among those subpoenaed. That is from the starledger. Front, thischristie is from the Washington Post. Romney defends the handling of the bridge scandal. Mitt romney defended chris role in an involving his administration. That was in an interview with the Washington Post on friday night. Romney said he emails with him since the bird scandal broke, to complement his handling of the situation. He said he must be frightening a lot of people because they are giving it a lot of attention. That is from the Washington Post. We have about 25 minutes 35 minutes. We will get your reaction on the president s speech yesterday. Lets go to melvin in lynchburg, virginia. On the line for republicans. Caller good morning. I want to first and foremost say that the aclu is the least credible group to have on here to discuss what is going on with the nsa. Even if the patriot act is renewed. Still with that being said, a lot of colors are democrats. Their supporters. They are blaming everybody else except president obama. He has ordered more drone strikes than any other president in recent memory. He has put us in more military conflict. People do not want to knowledge that. They are loyal to obama. My question to those who are democrats and may call him later, what is the difference between the nsa surveillance . We blamed the president then when they were infiltrating blacks in the 1960s. Now, we are saying that the president has no control over it . You people need to get real. If you support him, that is fine. But you need to have a real, credible reason. Host on our line for democrats, on is waiting in michigan. Good morning. Caller good morning. Thank you to cspan. I voted for obama. I dont believe anything that obama says. The only thing i saw the changetwas the color of the presidency. When the pager it acts got ramrod it through congress, people forget that they used the terrorist alert to Keep Congress there. They read it on the floor. He sent people there because it is a false terrorist attack. They hurry up and passed it because they wanted to get home to their families. Not trust obama. I do not trust his government anymore. It is way too much surveillance. Host don in michigan. We will be taking your calls and comments for the rest of the program today. We want to ask you to join us this weekend on American History tv. Featureas well, as we the history of chattanooga, tennessee. That will be at noon today. We will have all of our offerings, including this look at the writings of sole or general civil war general john t wilder. [video clip] he was one of the first to have a repeating rifle. He had an advantage over the single shot rifles that most soldiers used. They could fire 70 shots without reloading. Versus shoot and reload. He really gained an upper hand. Because of them getting spencer repeating rifles, it was a lethal division. It is because of that but they became known prior to that, they were the hatchet brigade. They all carried hatchets, just for camp necessity. He also was very instrumental in the battle of chickamauga. That was across the border in georgia. He was one of the last to leave the union troops. He helped to protect george thomas, who later became known as the rock of chickamauga. After the battle of chickamauga, in the late summer of 1863, he was pretty much done with the war. He went home. He was pretty sick and he went home for the remainder of the year. When he rejoined this outfit in early 1864, it was a reduced capacity. I believe about halfway through the war, he was pretty much done. He received a promotion to the rank of brigadier general. Most of what he accomplished during the war, he did as a colonel. Host make sure you tune into cspan2 at noon to catch this and all of our other check cash tender the offerings. Chattanooga offerings. We have about a half hour left. We will take your comments on the president s speech yesterday. Rachel is up next in california on the line for independents. Did you watch the speech . Caller no. Here is the thing. I want to bring up snowden. What is never mentioned about snowden he is a hero. He gave up the secrets that are being sold to israel. They have done nothing but squander. When they brought up when James Bamford is on, he has good books. Host can i ask you about snowden and what role he had . Caller he covers the government. What bothers me when nixon was president , he was accused of spying on the democratic have orders. Headquarters. Obama is selling our secrets. Israel is spying on us. They are tapping into our phones. Host where do your information from on the selling of the secrets . Caller that is what im getting too. Israel is behind them. It is the jews. Host where do you get your information from . Caller where . My information does not come from fox or cnn or msnbc. Tv. Tch press that is news you do not hear from anybody else. Host that is rachel from california. She brings up Edward Snowden. I want to play what the president said yesterday. One of the few times he has mentioned Edward Snowden in his speech at the Justice Department yesterday. [video clip] for these reasons i indicated in a speech last may, we needed a more robust public discussion about the balance between security and liberty. Not know, what i did was that within weeks of my speech, an avalanche of unauthorized spoilers would spark controversies at home and abroad that continue to this day. Fact of and open investigation, i will not dwell on mr. Snowden s actions or motivations. I will say that our Nations Defense depends in part on the fidelity of those entrusted with our nations secrets. If any individual objects to the policy and can take it into their own hands to disclose classified information, then we will not be able to keep our people safe. Moreover, the sensational way in which these exploiters have come out has shed more heat than light. They have revealed methods to ies that could impact our operations for years to come. Regardless of how we got here, the task before us now is greater than simply repairing the damaged done to our operations or preventing more disclosures from taking place in the future. Instead, we have to make important decisions. About how to protect ourselves and sustain our leadership while upholding the Civil Liberties and privacy protections that are ideals require. That was president obama at the Justice Department yesterday. The story is playing out in most of the major papers around the country. Heres the hartford current. The president defends the need to guard against terrorism. Then we will take you to the front page of the arizona republic. Obama limits reach of nsa. That is the headline there. Heres the front page of the atlanta journal. Obama announces surveillance reform. He calls for the end of Data Collection. We want to get your take in reaction to the president s speech. But go to john and columbus, ohio. Caller good morning. Good morning america. This is what i want to say. We need to keep doing what were doing with the nsi. Pushing the chinese through south america. I did not hear anybody mention the surveillance building is in utah. That is where the attorney general will store that information. Everybody spies. We need to be spying. I cannot stand it when people say mr. Snowden is a hero. Mr. Snowden is a traitor. Contract tosigned a get a job, like anybody else. If you go to your job and you steal, you would be fired. He has stolen information. He tries to run with it. He says book, i stole this information. Now, help me. Mr. Snowden is going to get it. He will come back to america. Any other place that he goes, honestly, he should be targeted. That is good for him, but kidnapping. Restim in there with the of the wolfson say this is what you did. Host john and columbus, ohio. We will take your calls for the rest of the morning. A few other stories for you today. Here is an obituary on japans last soldier of world war ii. He died on thursday. The last Japanese Imperial soldier emerged from hiding in the jungles of the philippines and surrendered 29 years after the end of world war ii. He died on thursday at 91 years old. He died at a tokyo hospital after a brief stay there. He was an Intelligence Officer who came out of hidings in fatigues. He surrendered only when his theer commander reversed order stu stay behind and spy on american troops. That is the obituary in several of the papers today. Not dealing with the second world war, but the first. Here is a story from the Financial Times today. The german public is reassessing the blame game for the first world war. It is a conflict long overshadowed by the crimes of the third reich. It is being reassessed by a public eager to regard the empire as a great power unlike any other. The best selling history books are those that spread responsibility, rather than hitting the blame on berlin. It notes that a Cambridge Book sayingote a that imperial germany was not alone. It held the number one spot for seven consecutive weeks. The german edition was published last september. To read more about that story, you can do that. Angela is waiting in st. Petersburg, florida. Good morning. Caller good morning. I cannot believe that you brought up japan and the philippines. Anyways that guy is not a hero. Terribly fori felt obama. Terribly. He should fire his speechwriter. ,e brought up so many times other leaders believe this. Other countries believe this. That is probably not the right thing to say. Maybe that is just me. I thought it was a terrible speech. Terribly delivered and he should fire his speechwriter. Host angela in florida. Joe writes in on twitter that snowden could not steal information. All of the information created by the government is owned by everyone. In another tweet, coming in from katos, they avoid giving him credits for waking up the masses. Lets go to louisville, kentucky on the line for independents. Caller good morning. I have several quick issues. I can zip through them. In reply to the drones, i would give an argument that there are negatives. Compare that with what president bush did when he sent in troops. Iraq . You do not think there is Collateral Damage there . The next issue is snowden, he is a traitor. He has signed an agreement of the contractor and reneged. Whatever he is guilty of they should charge him. Bamford said there is no harm done by the disclosures. How does he know what harm is coming down the road . The second issue is, who has their hand on it . He has been in russia. I agree with the president s speech. It is very moderate. He is trying to work with civil libertarians. I am glad he changed candidates. Candidate obama was more against privacy. As president , he got more information. He says he has to care for all the people in the world. Is 9 12. Oday what happened yesterday . One of the greatest event against our country in history. So many of these people could attack us again. Who would be responsible . He is doing the right thing. Host jim in louisville, kentucky. We can bring you reaction from members of congress. Patrick leahy as a president from democrat from vermont. That the American People are inching towards greater understanding about the implications of these programs. When it comes to privacy rights or prowess, there are always dilemmas and challenges. Because we can do something does not mean it always makes sense to do it. We should evaluate what we can gain from unleashing technology. We should always recognize that in a democracy, the Government Role is to serve the people. That is Patrick Leahy from the Senate Judiciary committee. Waiting in gary, tennessee on the line for republicans. Good morning. Caller that guy you just showed, Patrick Leahy. He is one of the problems that we have in this country. Host why . Caller they stay up there too long. It is in selfinterest. They do not belong there for four years. Get a real job. Serve the country and go wild. This is ridiculous. Money wasted. The democrats wanted because that is jobs for them. It is ridiculous what our country is doing. It is ridiculous. These people cannot even see right from wrong. Daylight or dark. It is unbelievable. Host gary in tennessee. Waiting in tennessee as well. On the independent line. Caller good morning. I want to go a little bit to the speech that i listened to yesterday. He went through and talked about how they were going to maintain this information. The information that is on every system in the United States if you give up all of your rights, pretty soon you have no right. The government controls everything. They control every bit of information that you have. They know your whole history. They documenting everything on you. Should they ever have the need to say were going to take all of the people against the government and put them in camps. These are the words that we have heard. This information is private. If you are talking to your brother or your sister or friend and you are talking on the phone, it is none of the governments business. They are spying more on citizens than terrorists. That is a problem with we do not need the governments buying on every citizen in the United States. We do not deed to give that freedom up. When i listen to this man, i have seen him live so many times. It is hard to trust him and believe what he is saying. He has lied to the American People many times. On health care, that was a big lie. I cap leave him. I had great hopes that our first lack president would lead this country and show the world that america is what every country should be. Anybody can come from any race or color and be a president. Work their way up and be a great leader. This man did nothing that is good. I cannot find many people who can say anything that he is done that is great to help this country. Mostly, he has hurt this country. Look what he is done to the military. He has done away with so many of our great leaders. It was a military of great generals and colonels and captains. He got rid of 400 majors and captains. Host are you talking about budget cuts that are hitting the military under his administration . Caller yes. Budget cuts hurt me because i am retired military. This is hurting me. It hurts other retirees. They are taking our benefits away. Slowly, but surely, he is to militarizing d demoralizing our military. Host that is bill from tennessee. We have been bringing you reactions from members of congress over the course of the show today. Talk about congresss role in the reforms that the president announced going forward. A want to bring in neil, staff member at roll call. Thank you for getting up with us. Who are the key players here . Who should we watch in the wake of the president s speech yesterday . Guest the first thing to look at will be the house and Senate Intelligence and judiciary committees. Particularly in the senate. Dianne feinstein and the Intelligence Committee and Patrick Leahy of vermont have usen diverging views on the and sa programs and Data Collection programs in the past. The expectation would be that the two of them may have moved competing legislative proposals. It will first be trying to figure out what the two of them are offering in the wake of this. They have proposed legislation already. We will see what their take on how to implement what president obama proposed is. That is one element. Every time you have competing jurisdictions and competing chairman, the decisions in both chambers will end up being made into leadership levels. Going to comes down to what harry reid and the Senate Majority leader and Speaker Boehner in the house are feeling and what they decide to do about it. They will have members in both parties in both chambers who have differing views. Sometimes, they do not ci two i. Host there was a story from yesterday afternoon. Mccain wants to create a Senate Committee to examine the nsa. Explain what that committee would be and how that would fit in to the scenario you are describing here. Guest mccains proposal is to say that there should be a select committee to handle the madehanges that need to be in terms of intelligence gathering programs. Organized. His is the reason is because there is jurisdictionsing that come into play here. Some of this is within the view of the judiciary committee. Obviously, the Intelligence Committee. When you start getting into questions about the phone companies themselves and the possibility of Telephone Companies holding on to metadata , you are clearly at that point in current on the jurisdiction of the commerce committee. Is suggesting is setting up a special or select committee that will have jurisdiction over all of this producing some sort of analysis or legislation. The trouble is that the chairman never want to give up control. It is doubtful the mccains problem will go anywhere. I will add your viewers one thing. Mccain is in an unusual spot. He is not the ranking republican member on any of these committees anymore. He used to be the Ranking Member of the Armed Services committee. He is not anymore. Some of this may be that he is looking for a position where he would have more influence in the process. Host interesting on the turf battle that might be happening here behind the scenes. I want to go to the president s state of the union address. As he looks to move to some of these policies, how high up to you think he makes the surveillance issue and some of the reforms that he you proposed yesterday and that address coming up at the end of the month . Guest that is a good question. In talking with members the last couple of days, what they expect for the state of the union including members of the Democratic Caucus who met wednesday evening at the white house with the president they were all talking about a speech that is going to focus on bread and butter Economic Policy issues. , themably the minimum wage ongoing standoff on unemployment benefits. Beiously, it is going to touching on everything. I do not know really where this is going to go in terms of the priority list. Where will this nsa and surveillance issue go in terms of the priority list . What i am hearing is that it is going to be more focused on Domestic Affairs and Economic Policy as we move towards the midterms in november. Host niels, we always appreciate you coming on. Guest thank you. Host that is rollcall. Com. He is a staff writer there. We have 10 minutes left. Want to get your reaction on the president s speech from yesterday. Ann is in texas. Did you watch the speech . Caller yes, and i love it. He did the best thing he could possibly do. You cannot give all of the information now. You just cannot do it. Tracking,e talk about when you got your Social Security number, your track. If you go to a department store, your track. If you fill it a formal for the irs, you are tracked. On to mr. Snowden, the hero was my nephew. May 19,a lit in iraq on 2005. My niece just got back from afghanistan. My niece works and intelligence. Her children do not know where she is sometimes. She is a hero. To say that Edward Snowden is the hero is wrong. He should be brought back from russia, tracked down, and guns down. He is a traitor. I love america, but some of us are off the chain and nutty when you talk about what is going on in america. Russia, they will never let him out. Who will never let him out. If he was a traitor with america, he will be a traitor with russia. Host catherine is waiting in outlook turkey, new mexico. On the line for republicans. Caller i listen to the speech yesterday. I had high hopes for obama. Know, he let Clinton Hillary and bill clinton got in. They have ruined him. He is listening to them. Nothing will get done. They do not care about anybody but themselves. Heaven help us. I think that obama needs to stay away from them. Listen to what he wants to do instead of relying on those traders. They lied. They lie all the time. They do not care who they hurt. Only one is power. Host you said you watched the speech. The president talked about some of the reforms he is making. To not spy on the leaders of foreign allies. He did not specify who. What is your take on the president s efforts in that regard . Caller i hope he gets to do what he wants to do. I do not like this. I do not like the lying about it. Spying, let us know about it. Do not treat us like babies. We are grown children. I want to know what is going on in my country. Host catherine in new mexico. Talking about news from around the country, a few more stories to point out to you this morning. You may not have seen these in the papers. A man pleads guilty in a poison letter case in mississippi. A former martial arts instructor led guilty to sending poison laced letters to president obama. Timeied to frame a long enemy and elvis impersonator. Agreement, he will serve 25 years in prison. He has been jailed since april on charges of sending the letters. That is from the associated press. Also, around the country, here is a story run the wall street journal. Colorado has a budding industry in pot tourism. The state became the first in the nation to allow the sale of recreational marijuana. A number of enterprising companies are betting that it will attract visitors and are seeking on the opportunity to serve the market. So far, noncoloradans account for more than half of the 1 million in daily sales. If you want to read more on that story, it is out of the wall street journal this morning. Finally, one other story here in d. C. The closure of part of the National History museum. The Natural History museum will close for five years starting in april. The high traffic dinosaur hall will close on april 28 for a makeover. Once completed, the hall will have a new centerpiece. Complete of the most three nisource rex skeletons ever unearthed. We have time for a few more calls. Mason is waiting in richmond, michigan. On the line for independents. Did you watch the speech yesterday . Caller i did. I would like to respond to the caller from texas. Childrenhat callers are absolutely patriots. What would their sacrifice mean if they did not have a Constitutional Republic to come home to. I think that snowden is a patriot as well. He protected the Fourth Amendment when no one else would. Some people will say that he stole information. He stole information because the government tried to steal the constitution. , where therants president can sign a warrant and collect millions of phone beef thatere a mean our Founding Fathers had. Specific. Ad to be this is one of the first times i am very glad. Obama is going back to cingular warrant and i hope he follows through with it. With regards to somebody letting the cat out of the bag. George bush, after 9 11, said we using any terrorists means possible, including modern technology. He mentioned cell phones. Edward snowden was not letting some big cat out of the bag. He was just letting the cat out of the bag for the American People. Host nathan in michigan. We will go to eric in chesapeake, virginia. Your reaction . Caller i will make three comments. My first comment is about Edward Snowden. I am an american. I did not have i did not ask Edward Snowden to speak for me. Every american out here should be upset about what he did. To saysing what he did that he is speaking for america. He is letting the American People know what is going on. I disagree with that. The other, and i would like to make is about president obamas speech. I listened to part of it. He was right on point. I agree with a lot of the things that he said. The other comment about the president the elephant in the room. Judge him because of the color of his skin. That is wrong. He has not had a fair shake since he has been in office. My last comment is about Edward Snowden. I think every american out there, whoever is on the plane with him should be afraid of that. It would not be surprising if something happened to that airplane. That is all i have to say. I appreciate your program and thank you. Host eric on the line for democrats. That will be it for todays washington journal. Make sure to tune in tomorrow at 7 00. Drutman. Ave lee a look atill have 2014 federal spending. Finally, we will talk about the Iranian Nuclear program. 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