with foreign policy magazine which is marking its 100th anniversary. here is part of the conversation geared towards china. you can see all of it at c-span.org. >> we are not seeking to blac chyna working china out, this beach was not looking for conflict and we are not looking for cold war. the profound difference is this, i believe china wants -- because usually is better than the alternative. but the water that we saw to build is profoundly liberal in nature, the it is as basic and fundamental as that. to the extent that china is taking steps that would undermine the liberal nature of the order, we are going to oppose that. we have been clear about that, there is no secret to it. on issue after issue, should be a major contributor to dealing with the problems the world faces him covid to climate. i could go down the list. we will continue to see cooperation and coordination. just a week ago, we had the presidency at the un security council this past month, is due to is on the growing food insecurity crisis we are dealing with. and now conflict because the russian aggression in ukraine is denying so much weight -- week. -- wheat. we worked with china on that. we invited them to the ministerial meeting on this crisis. they chose not to join, but the door is open. china has a tremendous ability to use its power and influence to productive and. -- ends. it is vital, even as we are trying to bring covid to an end. to build a more agile helps -- global security system that exchanges real-time information, the ability to see an emerging threat and do something about it. china could be a major player in that and i that it would be. there are issues such as north korea and iran. china has a role to play, and this is what i come back to, we can't decide for china and we don't purport to do that. we can't compel it to do x, y or z. what we can do is shape the environment in which it makes those decisions, and that is what the strategy we put forward is about, particularly when it comes to aligning with allies and partners. in the 15 months or so we have been in office, we have seen a growing convergence for the challenge that it represents, because some of the things we are concerned about. they are shared concerns. and the more we are able to stay aligned with other countries, the more effective we will be because, if we are 20 or 25% of gdp, that is one thing to contend with. if we are aligned with european or asian partners, it could be 50 or 60% of gdp. that is a very different matter and something that has to take seriously. >> janet yellen it will testify on the budget before the finance committee. watch live tuesday at 10 a.m. eastern on c-span, or anytime online at c-span.org. >> the house january 6 committee is said to go public. tune in as they question key witnesses. watch our live coverage beginning thursday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span, or anytime online at c-span.org. c-span, your unfiltered view of government. >>"the weekly" podcast compares the events of the past two today. >> why are we here? if not to try to make sure that fewer schools and communities going through what sandy hook has gone through, our heart is breaking for these families. >> democratic senator murphy, shortly after the shooting at robb elementary school in uvalde, texas. the next day, he was quoted in the europe times saying "our job is to pass laws." there are people in congress whose job it is to pass along prayers. in this episode of the weekly, we hear what senate and house chaplains said in the days after students and teachers were killed in mass shootings. >> help them. help us all to have hope in a time of great desolation. >> you can find the weekly on c-span now, or wherever you get your podcasts. c-span is your unfiltered view of government. we are funded by these television companies and more, including media,. -- mediacom. susan: phil klay, author of "uncertain ground." tell us phil: about the book. -- tell us about the book. phil: