Minded place. Partly because we read the principle in high school. Half of the people dissented from the families affected in 1692 were when they were in high school. Partly because it has such resonance. Brian when you were here four years ago for cleopatra, you were talking about this book. I want to look at a minute. Stacy something reassuring about a biography, an obvious structure most of the time. A beginning, middle, and end. And a pleasure of killing off your subject. It is gratifying kind of work. Brian what year . A good question, 1994. The next book about vera nabokov , the wife of the writer. And known for lolita, about the marriage. The third book about ben franklin. It was a pleasure, very difficult to research. , cleopatra. Tasks one of the blessings of biography is it you do not have to look at your own life. You examine somebody elses life. I am sure theres a reason about that. Then doesoug and salem witch trials. I am from massachusetts. Brian when will it come out . Stacy many years from now. It takes me about 45 years to write a book. Brian what change in your mind for years ago to now . Back, did you ever hear what George Elliott said, beginning the book as a young woman and ended as old woman . Everything changed in my mind. I do not generally go into a book with an agenda. I really such a research with an openminded that i can maintain so i can listen to every possible voice and current. And i did not have an overriding overriding sense of where it would take me. I does it the materials and found the voices that carried through the story. I began to see patterns and one earlier, superimposed on what would happen in massachusetts and begin to understand the political strains and hear from other girls from the 17th century not less early the was involved in salem. And the pieces began to come together. Say it would take four or five years. Brian in update about the whole story in case there are people like i was who deny know very much about it. What were the years youre talking about . Stacy really nine months. The witchcraft breaks out, first diagnosed in february 1692. The crisis, snowball over the next few months. The tighter incident is over by the fall. Really nine months from start to end. , conceptions of it are very skewed. Not in incident where men are choosing women. An incident all of the victims are women. We had five male victims. We hang to the witches. In addition to the speed, so much encrusted myth and misunderstanding here. I thought it was important to dispel. Barb and where is salem in massachusetts . Stacy northeastern massachusetts. 20 or 30 minutes from boston. Brian how many lived there . Stacy you had 2 salem spurious salem town which was refined port city second only to boston and the province and then Salem Village where the witchcraft breaks out. , a five miles down the road bunch of farmers who moved from cemetery because the farmland is better. Have no authorities of their own in the village. When they say witchcraft is broken out, they have to ride into civil village to appeal to the justices to issue arrest warrants for people they accused. Brian we have a picture from one of the websites of the money meant there monument there. Arey interest owing, there 2 salems. Has treatede today the history with a certain amount of respectful distance per salem town has embraced the history in a somewhat commercialized way. More so since the 1970s when bewitched films of their and it was possible to confronted his history which nobody really wanted to talk about for some time. And a salem town as it was then, salem today, has become the best place to buy a broomstick or vampire fangs. Kind of witchcraft central. Brian pick a which moment. Witch moment. You were there when on the swirling the stuff went around, give us a moment. Diabolicalis event a that stacy 50 people confessed midway through the crisis where confessions were very frequent. And different ways and adding elaborate details. A greater number of accused witches from the neighboring communities, not often salem, will tell about how they attend a diabolical sabbath in the same village minister. A large banquet table. Discover the menu and discuss some of the feast and how they arrived at it by various aerial means. Some people say theyve flown on sticks some carried on the devils shoulders. Most peoples light with our neighbors or children or friends. Ritualended this satanic and complicit in a giant conspiracy to overthrow not only the churches of new england whether the state. Brian how many people were killed in this timeframe . Stacy 19 people were hanged the one crushed to death under one for refusing to enter a plea. Brian what are they guilty of . Stacy witchcraft. This the difficult part, witchcraft is capital offense, a set of capital offense in massachusetts law. Every new england believes in, even those who themselves innocent. It may seem it was an superstitious medieval concept but to an early modern american, it was as real as heat or light. The crimes of witchcraft is a heinous charge and of their with murder in something people feel as a possible existence. Hown i do not realize often i would see the word witch and i want to show you a montage of places on tv where it is used. Witchhuntteam to the against the community group. That statement is dangerous. Because of his vision or two were to come true, it would be a nation of which. Is a political witch hunt. A muslim witchhunt from mccarthyism. Should not be handling the investigation. Gnosis a credibility and a witchhunt. He has no credibility and a witchhunt. A partisan witchhunt does not quite add up. Stacy it was a seminal moment. Astonishing, isnt it . Brian what is a which . Stacy and 17th century as defined was someone who was basically in confederacy with the devil and someone, usually a woman but not always who signed a pact with the devil signed in blood which confirmed him or her unnatural powers and with that she was off to recruit others through this diabolical, to do diabolical. Sometimes she could transform herself into other animals and into all caps or dog weasel. The menagerie to do her bidding. Andtimes she could fly bewitching your hay. You know thisw, of course the New York Times has been a lot of time on your book, good and bad. You had an interview sometime ago. And it only thing i want to ask about is the question, what was the most interesting book you read in researching the witches salem 1692 . Down said can did you read all nine volumes . Stacy every single word. Fairness, this is the catalog of offenses and abominations. It is i reading a tabloid newspaper except 17thcentury style. You have people being prosecuted for drunkenness and trespassing and fornication. It is heaven. Women smashing constables on the head. Men throwing their wives of the snow. Every possible grievance the courts have dealt with prior to say law. And so is the detail of what the life was like and where the stress among these families and individuals are. What irritates of them in a who annoys them . How many times the pigs get in the corn . You get understand what preoccupies of these people. Some of these people will reappear later in witchcraft accusations. Brian where did you read them . Stacy most at the new york public library. Brian how long did it take . Stacy is a long time but i kept going back. It is also addictive reading. I wanted to use in the book so i would go back to make sure i had every possible detail in place. Brian are they online . Stacy yes, i tend that i think they are. I tend to not to read online. Bribing it one point did you read it . Stacy part way through. Large it would be a big amount of material to get through. I usually start with primary sources, the witchcraft papers and i circle back to those sources by way of the larger context. And in these volumes very much reported that larger context. Gauging the temperature and feel and sound of new england. Reviewersof your there been 500 books written about the salem witch while and the . Phd would you call thats what you call them . Dissertations . Stacy it seems that it will be three times that many. No corner of American History so thoroughly researched. Brian why would your publisher thing it would sell again . Stacy this somewhat a fresh take on the trials and that it is not it is a driven book but an idea. My sense is you can understand these people and take for granted the believe in witchcraft and get into their you can see how this actually could happen. It would not seem as distant and improbable and diluted as it otherwise sounds to us when you say bunch of people hang for witchcraft in 1692. Do iwas not something i know had been done before. More of it, new things that kept appearing. Other things i had not seen. All of which came to me in the midst of the research. Brian you found is an identity seven or we found it now from 1997. He is the simpsons. All here found guilty of the crime of witchcraft. I sent is it you hag that sent seou i sent as you ntence you hags to be burned at the states. Haha. See you in hell, seymour. Why dont they use their power to escape . Sli witchcraft to make. Never mind. Should is 75 so that show god who side were on. [laughter] brian your reaction . Stacy it is quite pieces of that that is so very resonant particularly the whole the tribal feel to somehow purging society of an element. May not smile upon. Ministers atung the center of the crisis and it is duty. Purifying society which comes naturally to a puritan, it is a moral obligation. And if this investigation of which is as a sign of gods sprawling on new england. The devil has dissented on new england and a badge of honor to prove new englands piety. Put through the trial because new england hates the devil the most. We are exceptional in some way. Thats why we have been chosen to confront this satanic plague. And somehow that resonated with what you just showed, it is amazing. Brian in the late 1600s, who did the people in salem think the devil was . Devil is a think the real physical presence bring anybody more or less a which is working with him witch more or less working with him. Part of the accusations especially given the way we think of salem is that wealthy merchants were accused of which es an sea captains witch and see captains were accused of witches. Some of those men become before the justices who ever known there for years come the justices it is such a strange reversal here. These teenage girls should be running the show and their words carry more weight than these longestablished friendships to disintegrate. Brian going from baghdad to today, back then to today, could it change going from back then today cut it happen . What the change in the system . It is a bit of a stretch because you go to the way the law is and how it is evolved. Stacy first of all, were with justice system. The charts were not held according to what we will call water law. These charges were not held to what we consider modern law. There were no lawyers by the way i should say at the time. The courtroom is extremely unruly place. One piece of it. Prosecutee do not witchcraft anymore. Piling on that kind of mishap, the confessions which happened in salem, the public shaming which we tended to do with the internet at our fingertips certainly resonates still with what happened in 1692. Casee to think once the guess it to court, it would to percentnted conviction rate of that year for anybody accused. Out, in the pr they send it assess aside from suffrage the salem witch trials represent the only moment when women played a central role in hern history keeping questions about the same settlers resonate deeply, how do women express themselves when they are meant to be silent . Is that really true . Stacy womens voices leading the way here. Women are very disruptive presence in early new england. Have been for years. , ithis case, the view trumps everyone elses account. I would have a hard time naming another moment where you have a group of teenage girls, itself or john of art from 18 asian girl whose word excel for xcept for joan e of arc. They are used as visionaries to diagnose witchcraft. People are bringing relatives to them to say who is afflicting this victim. Brian what is the first instance, witchcraft, a lot of it before then, where did you start . History ofng witchcraft prosecution so the idea comes to new england with the settlers. Many of them from parts of new england where witchcraft files had been popular. This idea with them, what they ,o not have because by 1692 england is no longer prosecuting which is. Witches. There is some skepticism about witchcraft and how it works. Living as something of a time warp. Those fighters have not fully penetrated new england ali of the ministry have seen they do not solve. About 100 cases prior in new england in only six, only hang six people until this time. One of the things that sets them apart is thesalem fury for which this all seems to take place. Toun you have a very long r, book tour scheduled. Stacy i am glad you noticed. Brian what kind of questions are you getting from the audience that shows up at your event . Stacy half of america seems to dissent from someone, some salem family and the other half starting the crucible with it were high school. How much all of us, part of the reason we remain obsessed because we first, contact as adolescence. And we never quite got over what he read as adolescences adolescents. Build onhat seems to the other. The injustice of it, the injustice of it and the fact the mystery cannot completely be solved is why people come back to it. Brian why do Arthur Miller writes the crucible . He saw parallels between mccarthyism and witchcraft. He writes about interestingly. He goes to salem to research. He discover salem, nobody would talk about it. In the 1950s, the subject was very much taboo. Atrocities like many , several generations after all but in this case many generations after it did. No one is willing to engage in a conversation about it. He finds a strange at co. Of his own upbringing, the Old Testament voices he had known as a child in much of the witchcraft testimony which i thought was fascinating. Wright here he is in as brian here he is a 1991 talking about it. What i think salem means or somed mean is that here people refuse to compromise with the gun government and tell lies to save lives. Misled to appeals to a certain kind appear at the of believe. Believe. Of it happens all of the time. Generate among certain people by telling them [indiscernible] brian that was 24 years ago. Our politicians still lying . Stacy i have been living in the 17th century. I think there are people we could ask that question. Thats blue streak he is referring to is still very much with us. I do not think i know that. Salem if youwith confessed in 1692 committee lived. If you assisted on your innocence, you hanged. Brian that came from a documentary called witch city. Wonderful. S how salem commercialized. Brian when did you first read the crucible . Stacy i made it through high School Without reading it. I read it when my kids read it for the first time. I went back to it when i was working on the book. Brian you have a massachusetts history . Stacy i grew up in a small massachusetts town. When you start explore the mothership among families have known each other for many years and many years of Unfinished Business and talk about the generations that go back several generations, i had some vague understanding. I grew up in adams, massachusetts. Brian you went to Williams College . Stacy idea. I went to school in andover for several years. Decimated,ty most hardest hit by the witchcraft. One in 10 people accuse. I never knew any of them. That was a complete surprise to me when i went back for materials for i was in salem and boston repeatedly for about three years print reputedly over those years i was in massachusetts. Brian what are the most valuable archives . The pbx great deal in museum. We have a hearing papers. About 1000 pages of arrest warrants in early depositions and execution orders, constables reports. In the archives. A fabulous archive including the Church Record book which is the minister. The witchcraft breaks out and a lot of other supporting documents. Great 17thcentury take. The American Society have the bulk of the cottonmouth papers. There are terrific ministerial diarys from 17th century to we discover for example, minister who has kept a very meticulous account of every time he had his haircut or fan his horse. He will skip over 1692. You are reading the room is getting every detail of life in you realize, weight, what im looking for is missing. Life, i remember the name i first heard about it and it seems to be the biggest name out of this book, maybe not. He was only 29 at the time. Stacy quite brilliant. The son of the most esteemed minister in massachusetts. A prodigy. He graduated from harvard at 11 and preached his first sermon at 16. Ride what did it mean brian what did it mean to graduate from harvard in the 16 90s . Stacy you would be a minister. Maybe starting early than today. But still he was an exceptional mind. Quite a brilliant man. In the course of his lifetime published more than 300 books. Brilliant and accumulative writer. Brian what were the 300 books about . Doctrine andbout those sermons pouring out of him. Brian you were really tired of reading the puritan sermons . Steady bank stacy is probably not good for ones health. It is very exacting religion. Very bleak religion. You are essentially living within a huge uncertainty as to what might happen to your soul. Difficulta very balancing act. You are living in a state of sin , heading from santa were grace. A it is not a comfortable place to be under any circumstance. Brian what did you find . Willard is one of the other ministers that Samuel Willard is another minister. Andnticipates the crisis writes one book and will write another one afterwards. Brian another video clip, monty python and the holy grail. Lets watch a this and get your reaction to it. What do you do with witches . Good. [indiscernible] can you may bridges out of stone . Wood sink in water . What also floats and water . Apples. Cherries. Mud. Lead. A duck. Exactly. Ghs thely, if she wei same as a duck, she is made of wood and therefore a witch. Witch [laughter] brian you admit from time to time, no one is really figured all of this out . It will never get to the minds of the first afflicted girls, what were they linking and feeling . What is a had a was not in evil spell upon them. Dont you want to discuss at that . It is genius, dont you think . The other joy of being able to accuse someone of witchcraft. Whatever you want to call it. And also the Science Behind it. When you mentioned Cotton Mather , with the fascinations are these men are witchcraft experts and they have read voluminous shelves. They have read a lot a witchcraft. Very ever died man who knows the men who knows in the science. What will happen is people will be subjected to very clinical tests and examined physically and what they could do the courtroom. One test almost as good as floating a witch was whether you could recite at the lords prayer. Shockingly, almost everyone walks into her hearing room and is asked to recite the lords prayer which is something a witch was understood not to do would stumble over the words. Theells you how stressful procedure of being interrogated a by authorities must have been. The only person who seems to have been able to recite the lords prayer as a minister who will hang hole on his way up the lastws will deliver a minute sermon, a very fiery sermons. Recite ofl flawlessly the lord for it will incite the crowd about what have we done. Perhaps he is not a witch. 12 a perfect set of procedures we can follow to figure out whether someone is in fact guilty. Ryan them when he did it start in salem . Late early january are february, two little girls, nineyearold and 11yearold shutter and shrieked and couples. And interrupt ministers will hide a small corners of the room. Though citizens were more or less identical to symptoms described by Cotton Mather in a 1680 boston case of witchcraft when entirely family are afflicted. Accuse orman who lay who is accuse in that case will hang. That case is known to everybody in salem at the time. Brian how did the trials begin . Stacy as to the time of the first of flexions began, theres no afflictions begin, there is no Political Administration in place in massachusetts who has been without a government for three years. It seems know what to try the case. A little unclear if the acting governor could have set up in court if he wanted to. A new governor arrives in may. The prisons are filled because its taking on exponential life of its own. And he will set up a Witchcraft Court that will send a early in the summer to start to try the cases. He pulls nine men, five who has to be in the room at each trial. The chief justice is is acting governor who is a justice who has been the legal does best Legal Authority at that point. He will proceed according to british law at the time. Brian what were the ages of the people accused . A fiveeverybody from year oh girl to an 80 year old. There is a randomness. Some of our Church Members and some are wealthy and some are not. It runs it will run the gamut. Brian who was allowed to bring the charges . Iscy the government bringing the charges. They are charging the people with a maliciously and feloniously practicing witchcraft. Brian how long were the trials for any individual . Stacy they seem to have been shockingly short. They were fairly justice was fairly rapid. A trial commode very quickly. Very quickly. Very little back and forth. The justices themselves as for the much like the Police Interrogator would act and a lot of the testimony is written. People move quite rapidly. Go through entire case, several cases in the course of one day. Brian how long did it take to be hanged . Stacy that is pretty swift. The idea here is we are about to eradicate a Malignant Force among us, the sooner the better. Moreover, people in the jails, the massachusetts generals are bulging with accused wishes. Accused witches. They need to get on top of this and return matters to normal. They need to plow through with some speed. Brian here is another documentary clip from fromnt and is about the history channel. [indiscernible] convenient times such as when people come by to see them. This is leading many to believe that the girls were simply faking it. If the girls are not play acting, it is a deadly game. They can be accused of witchcraft themselves and hanged. By a reverent to name the witch who is affecting them, Abigail Williams go to an obvious scapegoat. Documents describe her and her as they arendian, slaves from barbados. She is dark skinned. Dark like the puritans enemies. Stacy she is a slave who lives in the household and seems to come from boston and lives with the family. We know very little about her origins. She probably has lived in barbados with him earlier. As she has gone to the history largely because of the crucible. A sort of voodoo practicing enchantress who has told fortunes with the girls. More currently, she is one of the first three accused witches and she is only one of those first of three who will confess. In the courtroom, the hearing room i should say, she will deliver story very early on of how there are nine which is a foot and she is flown to boston and there are she hints at a conspiracy. She launches the story in action because once she confessed to witchcraft, its undeniable it is at work. By the time the fourth person is accused and says i am instant, i know that the witchcraft, much less likely to be believed because someone else confessed. Kitchaba will be interrogated and seems to be playing a sort of, collaborating in a way with the justice who depose her. He is asking questions to wishes giving extremely publishes given the answers he wants. The questions are leaving and she is delivering bountifully. Seem to be ever consulted and she will stay in prison longer the anyone else. 15 months. Wright houses yeezus died was a believe brian how did you decide what to believe . ,t seems like a crazy story what is the evidence . Stacy she says she got a liberal that in every room and creashed broom and on a raoute. Look likehappened to Cotton Mather had described him in a printed book, i this all where he may have gotten that imagery. You see a lot of of [indiscernible] leadingbeing preached a and what comes out in the court testimony. Betweenry odd at cold echo between the political conspiracy to overthrow the earlier governor, a coup against the british governor and a lot of testimony from that cop will get replayed. I did i think it would is a a complete coincidence. Brian you mentioned cotton story d there is a show call salem. A 32nd clip of Cotton Mather. Let a devil will never protestant land be filled without a fight, without a battle. With the deadly malice are the most malignant and insidious weapon of that. The smartest man on earth at that time. He was done with harvard by the time he was 14. He could speak a language is. Selftaught. Brilliant. Brian the gentleman there is simon, the cocreator of this series. Stacy in the earlier witchcraft cases, the women accused is also unable to say the lords prayer but she seems only speak gaelic, one language that Cotton Mather did not speak. He may have spoken many languages but not solve the ones they might have come in handy. A huge amount of evangelical college out of this. The role he played afterwards,nflame, the belief in witchcraft will persist after the trials have ended. And people were putting to be the witch. At Cotton Mather himself will observe afflicted girls after the whole salem tragedy has ended and be very critical on what and he knows not to publish. Still very much invested in the invisible world. Still vested in the idea of witchcraft. He continues to believe that he never intended to publish that salem served a purpose. And what we consider to be a miscarriage of justice or a tofil in fact had help pews and to fill the he said, nothing was lost. Brian what was a puritan . Stacy somebody who do not believe the church was yet efficiently pure and the work of the affirmation was not complete the head appeared religion down to basic essentials. Brian hundred people in the community were puritan . Stacy almost everyone. There are baptists and quakers, neither who fared particularly well. Looking, crowd was now trying to establish a bible commonwealth. Askew at it vital practices somebody does something else. Brian if youre alone that if you are young lady and watch other people be hanged, why would you believe the witchcraft . Stacy it is deeply rooted in the religion. The devils existence is necessary to religion. Faith in witchcraft and the devil go handinhand. To think the course had prosecuted the wrong people which is what people seem to believe in 1692. Witches may exist but it does not mean the court found the right ones. A wonderful, very equitable, fairminded minister who writes about couple one of the best sources on the trial in one of the first observe the girls and their early agonies. He is of the believe that perhaps they have proceeded wrongly and have not been wise enough and how to identify a which. Bute innocence have hanged guilty parties have escaped. Brian you have gotten quite a bit of publicity. In particular the New York Times. Why . Cleopatra . Is sold 800,000 books. Stacy that is what the publisher said. I have three children, im very grateful. I have not been reading the reviews, forgive me. I hope to. I have not been pretty i get a piece for the New York Times about salem and embracing the story in the end. With a bookq a review. Wright a question of brian a is that about the a a, something you speak or something right out and give you the questions . Stacy you write out the answers. Brian you can control . Stacy to some degree. A by yourn you asked favorite authors, the same was you told us four years ago. Stacy i am very loyal. I tend to read to read the same books over and over. Ive never entirely outgrown. Wright what deck brian was appeased by alexander. Brian one was a piece by alexander. You said everybody goes through all same phase. Stacy you do not . Not. no, i did stacy made i should say every adolescent girl goes through of same phase. You cannot get too close to the supernatural as a kid and not get to salem. Maybe its a female thing. Led bys that is so much these adolescent girls. I do not know. A lot of people have said they had a salem phase. Brian you said is annoying to have the lack of closure of the same instant that keeps us going back because we cannot make sense of the whole thing. Stacy i think theres unknown selling, it is true of many, the kennedy assassination would be another obvious parallel. Feelinging those moments in history that seem to defy logic and diagnosis and being able and being put perfectly to bed, tied with a nice, tight and so many moving pieces as so many, so textually bridged. Brian do you know jen kaminsky . Shey i do not but i heard write a nice review. Brian thats not your review on november 1 a snarky review on november 1. Stacy you will be hitting the window for the first time. I should warn you. Painful on tv. Brian i think a chance to answer what she is saying here. Who knows what she meant. By on any measure, she is from Harvard Stacy hmm. I wonder what i did sort of previous lifestyle lifetime . So many people are settling scores there are longstanding and wondering brian what your reaction . Stacy Terrie Miller said it is a moment in history that utterly fascinating but has no other repercussion. You can arrive a history without mentioning salem and it will make note difference. That is true to some extent. The residence is what we see today. When National Security threats are so much on our mind and terrorism is so much on our minds. Modern strikes me as painfully loud at times. Brian i would read more but stacy how kind of you. Brian i wonder if theres a difference between how a pgd of harvard and somebody was not a phd . Stacy we can fold answer. An schiff have you ever been called a mens chenkenner . Stacy i do not know that word. I would consider high praise. Most of us do not read fiction. Ride it gets a better. Brian it gets better. Stacy that is interesting. What i am getting too, people who have seen characters back at the people. To not modern men by any stretch but people we could relate. Overriding reason for salem. Still annoys us. It dries the witchcraft. People trying to solve the mystery. Why did the child die . Did it have something to do with the neighbor appeared at the door moments before . They are trying to solve mysteries. It seems to me a way of accessing the story and making this whole incident makes sense as opposed to looking at if they were walking characters. Brian you consider yourself a story . Stacy primarily i consider myself a writer. It is my job to make the reader want to turn the page. Brian ive got so many more quotes by will give you one more from this review. Which i can see is a very pleasant experience. Stacy thank you. Stacy hmm. I do not know, is it true . You read the book. Does it feel like having spent four years in the book and have somebody take a shot at the New York Times like this . Affected them do you think it is possible we dated the same boy in high school . Brian one last clip. The impact still in this world fromternational basis august 8, 2015. This story coming up of india. Lets watch. Jacked out of their homes in the dead of night. Beaten with sticks and killed. 45 kilometers from the capital. Antiof villager had gained of the gazelle accusing them of witchcraft. D the entire village had gang d up against them, accusing them of witchcraft. They were killed in front of their families. 50 people have been taken into custody from the village so far. According to government figures, more than 400 People Killed in witchcraft allegations, most of the women. Stacy sobering. It goes and apparently with some regularity. Largely in africa. I do i know that particular story. It tends to be crimes against women. Cancer be away of a lightning rod tends to be a lightning rod for anger against women. Brian go back to the end of the trials and i want to ask you why it stopped . Stacy not entirely clear why is stopped. You had a new governor in place. He will never refer to the witchcraft without saying the witchcraft possession. He does not seem to be entirely convinced that witchcraft, he is a very expedient and not devout puritan. He is reached out by the end of the summer to the new york ministers. He does not feel as if he isnt the best of hands with the massachusetts ministers. He reshot far as opinion from new yorkers. A rather more skeptical take on the whole trial process. The nature of the evidence is what is at issue. A very eloquent petition for one of the accused was essentially said where not getting our proper legal rights here. Cotton mathers father has weighed in with a vote for mercy. The numbers have become almost impossible. His accusations have reached a very high level and getting to be winter which is a very inconvenient time of year to be listening to the witchcraft testimony your mentor the home harvesting your crops and feeling your cellar. Some coronation of these things come together. Trials are shut down. The skeptics can speak without accusations. Brian back to their review, one thing i wanted a cleared up. Shes a you a to researchers . She said you a to researchers . Stacy that is astonishing. I do know how many i had. Themsually i would pay and give them a program set up at columbia. They will go is the right things for me are getting me puritan sermons at i like to read in hard copy of an online. Brian puts it the cover of the screen and tell us where this cover comes from. It is up there. Done it was a photo shoot by the jeans craze director genius creative director and three girls who met in a downtown studio in new york all of the jurists authentic. And they were put through a series of poses. There was a fourth girl in this particular shot but the sense of having the symmetry and emptiness to the side seemed to make more sense. Brian did you get to approve it . Stacy we got to talk about it but it was the publishers call. The way the girls capture your i am is unclear from the title if it they are the witches or who they are is a rather arresting. Brian the last in your hear you had three children, still have to read . How old are they . Stacy 15, 22, 24. Brian and your husband lives in canada . Stacy effect is not change. Us up an you tell brian can you tell us about your next book . Stacy i cannot because when i come back, you cannot say i did not finish on time. Brian you finish on time. Stacy approximately. I have a bit of a glimmer. Once you start to go down that road, i tend tell fall hook line and sinker into the work. Right now i want to be able to talk about the book and write about the book and ive done a couple of pieces. Brian thank you, stacy schiff. The name of the book is the witches salem 1692 antigua for talking with us. Stacy thank you, brian. For free transcripts or to give us your comments, visit us at qanda. Org. Programs are also available as cspan podcasts. [captions Copyright National cable satellite corp. 2015] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. 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