Closed as of today. Those include iraq, egypt, and libya. The state Department Says al qaeda and other groups might be targeting u. S. Government or private american interests. That travel alert is set to expire at the end of the month. This morning on nbcs meet the press, two senators talked about the situation. Senator saxby chambliss, the Top Republican on the Senate Intelligence committee, talked about the alert. Iowa senator dick durbin talked about the embassy security. We will take a look at that now. The chatter out there chatter means conversation among terrorists about the planning that is going on. Very reminiscent of what we saw pre9 11. We did not take heed on 9 11 the way that we should. I think it is very important that we do take the right kind thelanning as we come to close of ramadan. We know that is always an interesting time for terrorists. We are also, what, 38 days, 37 days away from the september 11 anniversary. Are paying very, very close attention to the chatter that is going on and i can tell you, david, this is the most serious threat that ive seen in the last several years. Can i just press a little bit . What makes it so serious . Is it the nature of what the attack could be . Is it that it could be in different places . Because we are such a wide area that is being covered. Obviously, we dont know where the location is. That is part of the problem. But what we have heard is some specifics on what is intended to be done and some individuals who are making plans such as we saw before 9 11, whether they are going to be suicide vest that are used suicide vests that are used or planning on vehicle borne bombs being carried into an area. We dont know. But we are hearing some kind of that same chatter, david, that we heard pre9 11, leading up to anecdotes like that taking place by the terrorists. And its a big deal. Vice President Biden gave us a classified briefing this last week. They identified more than 25 of our embassies around the world that are particularly vulnerable. More than 25. In the defense appropriations bill, which we wrote and sent to committee this week, i included 48 million specifically to great in 35 embassies around the world the security that we need to upgrade in 35 embassies around the world the security that we need. We need to realize were living in an increasingly dangerous world. This specific threat that we been briefed on over and over again has reached a new level. Congressman Dutch Ruppersberger is the topper Top Republican in the he said that the threat was from a highlevel person or people in al qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula and that the threat dealt with a major attack. Here is a portion of his remarks from his interview this morning. , what we have to do now is the most important issue is protect americans throughout the world, whether in intelligence community, military, or people in the state department, and citizens living throughout the world. We know that al qaeda and other people out there want to attack us and kill us and our allies. The good news is that we have picked up intelligence. That is what we do. That is what nsa does. And as a possible purpose is to get information intelligence to sole purposeas is to get information and intelligence you have heard that operatives are in place. Those operatives are in place because we received information that is that highlevel people from al qaeda in the any villains are Arabian Peninsula are talking about a major attack and these people are highlevel. Whatever that intelligence is, we act upon it. Our first job is to protect the americans and other parts of the world. Commerce and king, this is , this congressman king has also spread domestically. We have beefed up security. I think americans dont really understand why this keeps growing in the last few days. First am a it was the embassy closings. Now domestically. Embassy, it was the closings, now domestically. Why the higher alert in america . Because this threat was so specific as to how in or miss it was going to be. Enormous it was going to be. The assumption is that it is probably most likely to happen in the middle east, at or about one of the embassies, but there is no guarantee of that. It could be europe, the united eight, a series of combined attacks. It could be the united states, a series of combined attacks. It could be like the liquid explosive where there were going to be a series of attacks carried out almost simultaneously. The administration has tried to, first with the embassies, then with the Global Travel advisory, and also readying state and local governments leading state and local governments know the nature of this threat oh that so that we can be on guard. We are stronger than we were al qaeda is stronger than it was on 9 11. Al qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula is probably the most deadly. Ron paul also talked about the u. S. Embassy closings before the Young Americans for liberty conference. He is a former representative and was a 2012 residents are candidate. Lets take a look. I lean toward optimism. I am concerned of it about what other countries have done. They usually go toward a totalitarian. People get frightened. They scare people. Just like whats going on right now. We are told there are going to be a lot of attacks around the world. They are closing down the embassies. See, we just saved you from all this grief . We just saved all these attacks. The last 100 attacks that they said they stopped, the fbi, one of them was a real one. 99 were ones that they participated in and set up and enticed people, and trapped people into doing. And trapped and trapped entrapped people into doing. These are the lies of the government. We need to have an honest government is what we need. [applause] ron paul before the Young Americans for liberty conference. You can see those remarks in their entirety at 6 30 p. M. Eastern time after newsmakers. Embassy closings were also a topic on todays washington journal. Ee, who follows the state department for the Associated Press is joining us live on the phone. Thanks for being with us. What can you tell us at this hour . Guest there is not much new that we know since thursday or friday when the the notice of the embassy closures, and friday when the alert came out. I think right now, we are in kind of a wait and see mode to see what if anything is going to occur today, which is obviously, clearly a day of great concern, but also through the rest of this week, which marks the end of ramadan. And as you just mentioned, the alert expires on the 31st of august. I think right now that everyone is on their very on a very heightened sense of security. Intel people redoubling their efforts to see if they can get anymore specificity in terms of the threat. Unfortunately, in a situation like this, it is kind of just waiting to see what, if anything, happens. Host we should point out this is the start of the workweek week in muslim countries, correct . Guest correct. Most u. S. Embassies as well as embassies of other countries are open in much of the muslim world on sundays. It is the beginning of their work week. They work sunday to thursday. Host there have been some reports over the weekend that this as been too much information provided by the obama administration. How have state Department Officials or those that you have been able to talk to responded to that . Think it is difficult, the criticism. It is hard to find merit with a lot of this criticism. Because the state department, since the lockerbie bombing, you 1988 the pan am bombing in , has been operating under a no doublestandards rule, which means that threat information goes that goes to official American Employees and diplomats and others serving abroad needs to be or has to be shared with the american public. If they have a threat that they believe is specific and credible enough to close and embassy, any ash close and embassy, any embassy, to close an embassy, any embassy, they are required to shared with the public. I do not see really much merit in the criticism. I know some people have been complaining that the amount of specificity and the location identification of the closed indices may have tipped off or did tipped off potential attackers and may have alerted them to how their communications were intercepted or compromised, but i think in the interest of safety of official americans and private americans who are traveling, the state department is operating with out of an abundance of caution here, as they said, and they are required to do that. Host with nearly two dozen embassies closed this sunday, give us a sense of what has been happening behind the scenes. We know that the former ambassador to the united nations, susan rice, has been holding a series of closed door meetings. The president was briefed on this yesterday before departing for camp david. We assume he will also be briefed later this morning. Today, by the way, is the president s birthday. What else is happening, from your Vantage Point . Guest i think there is an increase and intensified interagency discussion about the situation out there. One thing i think that is interesting is there are, as you areioned, 21 embassies that usually open on sundays that are closed. These range from north africa, from mauritania, the western coast of africa, all the way through the middle east, but there are some interesting omissions in the list that the state department provided. There are several countries where embassies are open on sunday that have been targets of terrorist attacks, not the embassies themselves necessarily , but that are not on that list. If you look at it, morocco, tunisia, lebanon, turkey, and the big one, pakistan. Those embassies are not closed. What i think we can infer from this is that the source of the threat is specific enough and well known enough in terms of their area of operation that these facilities have not been closed. I also noticed that a country like indonesia, a moslem country Muslim Country that has been the site of numerous terrorist attacks, it is also anomalous. Also not on the list. So, i think that what we will see is the National Security officials, the state department, the pentagon, the intelligence agencies, really doubling down and taking a close look at what is going on throughout this broad swath of the year for the swath of the earth that is covered by this warning. Host the president this past week, meeting with the president of yemen in the oval office. That seems to be the key target at the moment, or the key source of questions from intelligence officials . Guest that is correct. While the u. S. Has closed this broad array of embassies, some european countries, the british, the french, the germans, notably have identified yemen as not only the possible source of the attack, but also the possible location. The have not issued a broader they have not issued a broader warning to their people. Host thank you for getting up early on this sunday for the latest on this story. We appreciate your time. Guest thank you. [captions Copyright National cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] the embassiesk at that will be closed as of today, a total of 21 embassies and consulates. Also in the news, Hassan Roman Rouhani has taken the oath of office. The new president of iran. It might lead to making a ran less isolated. Representatives from her or from more than 50 countries making iran less isolated. Representatives from more than 50 countries attended his swearingin. . If we turn away from the needs of others, we align ourselves with those forces which are bringing about the suffering. The white house is a bully pulpit. We ought to take advantage of it. Obesity in this country is nothing short of a Public Health crisis. I think i had little antenna. 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In about half an hour, cspan will be taking you back to milwaukee, wisconsin, where the National Governors association will be wrapping up today. Their final panel of the day inl look at states roles cybersecurity. That will start at 12 15 pm eastern time. Until then, we will take a look at John Hickenloopers appearance on this mornings washington journal. Host this weekend, we are live at the nga summer meeting in milwaukee, wisconsin. We are pleased to be joined by governor John Hickenlooper, the former mayor of denver and now the democratic governor of colorado. Thank you for being with us. Guest you bet. Glad to be on your show. Host let me begin with one of the panels yesterday that people might have found interesting. The amount of money that states spend on incarceration and health care for inmates in state prisons. You were part of that panel discussion. What was your take away takeaway . Guest budgets have gone up continually in terms of incarceration. Some states more than others. The real trick is, a lot of the people we end up locking up for years have mentalhealth issues, other health issues. If we can address those Mental Health issues, they can live constructive lives outside and we are not spending 45,000 or 50,000 a year to keep them locked up. Host one of the goals of the governors meeting is to learn best practices when it comes to incarceration rates and the cost that states put forth to keep inmates in jails. What did you learn . Guest i thought the lesson from the state of washington, one of the best practices, they put together a framework to measure risk. If someone is really a threat to commit a violent crime, they want to make sure that person stays in prison as long as they should. If someone is nonviolent and has a high potential of getting a job and keeping a job and rejoining the flow of society, lets get them out of prison and get them through the Halfway House or whatever the Remediation Program is a take that burden off the taxpayers shoulders. Host we have one line set aside for those of you who live in colorado to talk to john 3883. Nlooper. 202585 you can also join us on facebook or send us a tweet. cspanwj. Implementation of the president s healthcare law continues, where is colorado at the mome . T moment . Guest i think we are on schedule. This coming winter and spring we will be able to achieve i have every confidence we will get it open and time. In time. The very ambitious registration numbers and targets we have got, were going to push real hard to make sure we make those as well. Host you were quoted that you were nervous when it came to those marketplace practices. Can you explain what you were talking about . Guest this is a new program that is very ambitious. It is not an existing program were trying to tweak. We are creating something new. That always has some risk with it. We have been spending a lot of time looking at the technology and software. Part of this is the regulations are very complex and we dont want people to be turned off by having to go through too much red tape. Were trying to say, how can we make this as simple as possible, make it easy for people to join . For many people, it will be the first time theyre able to get inexpensive health care the in their lives. Host as you know, House Republicans voted on 40 separate occasions to defund the to defund or eliimi eliminate the president s healthcare law. If you see what is happening here in washington, what is your reaction . Guest im not going to criticize people. You get dug into these positions sometimes. There were laws that came from the republican side maybe i did not like, but they are laws. We try to make them work the best we can. Healthcare is our law. Burgoyne to do everything we can to use that framework to lower cost. We are going to do everything we can to use that framework to lower cost. Costs have been going up out of control. You go back just four years ago. Only 10 of the doctors used Digital Information systems for their patient records and prescriptions. Only 20 of the hospitals. Everyone else was on paper. Now over half the doctors are using technology of one sort or another. Almost two thirds of hospitals. As that change occurs and allows us to contemplate controlling cost for the first time in a decade, there is an awful lot of moving parts. We have to make sure we get those parts right as well. Host i want to ask you about gun laws. Two of the most terrific shootings took place in your state. Columbine high school, and more recently, a year ago at the Movie Theater in aurora, colorado. Would national gun laws have made a difference in either of those cases . Guest its hard to say. In both those cases, the people clearly had serious Mental Health issues. As you get into the issue, we try to be pragmatic. We did the most comprehensive Mental HealthInitiative Last spring in the history of the state of colorado. In the 1970s and 1980s we put people in institutions their whole lives and forgot about them. Then we suddenly send them out on the streets. And said fend for yourself. We definitely need more Health Care Support so people can continue to live on the outside. When they are a risk to themselves or others, we have got to find ways to intervene rapidly. Our universal background check, which was very divisive and controversial some of these gun issues, when you take the facts and look at them, we looked at 2012 in colorado. We stopped 38 people that were accused or convicted of homicides. 133 people convicted or accused of sexual assault, 620 people that had been convicted of burglary. 1300 people convicted of felony assault. 420 peopel people that had judicial restraining orders not to see a girlfriend or boyfriend or significant other. And we looked at the records, 236 people when they came to pick up their brandnew gun, we arrested them for an outstanding warrant. So, clearly they work, but it became this very divisive issue. Would it have changed the shootings in the theater . No. That would have made our community safer, though, without question. Host what about the limits on ammunition clips . The limits on the number of bullets allowed in some of these ammunition clips . Guest that has been a significant issue in urban areas. The statistic that was that went home to me, was 31 to 40 of officers killed in the line of duty were killed with weapons using magazines more than 15 rounds. That is sobering. We are a western state. You hate to make any imposition on peoples guns or any part of their guns. There were Police Chiefs that felt that this was an important issue that would make Police Officers safer doing their jobs. Host John Hickenlooper served eight years as the mayor of denver. Mike is joining us from colorado. Good morning. Caller thanks for having me. I have a question about amendment 64. I wonder if the governor has any inside information about what the implementation will be and if it will be overcast overtaxed, compared to the alcohol or cigarettes relative to it, and maybe how the banking and money situation will work out for that. Host governor, you might want to explain amendment 64. Guest amendment 64, which i did not support, legalized Recreational Marijuana in colorado. You talk about doing something that has never been done before, trying to figure out what is the legal and regulatory framework. First, how do we make sure kids dont get it. A lot of doctors are very concerned that some of the new strains of marijuana have very high concentrations of the active ingredients of thc. It is kids whose brains are still growing smoke the stuff. If is kids whose brains are still growing smoke the stuff, it could forever affect their longterm memory. We want to have a very rigorous Regulatory Environment. I used to be in the business, the brewpub business, restaurants with breweries in them. We still had to apply to the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms to get a federal brewers license. That Regulatory Environment is incredibly strict. You have to show what every square inch of your premise looks like. Once you are manufacturing beer, you have to track every ounce. You pay taxes on everything. It is a very significant level of taxes. Our goal on this is to create every bit as rigorous and strict a Regulatory Environment for the regulation of marijuana as we have for alcohol. That is one of the things we tax most in modern consumer society. Host you indicated your opposition to this amendment. Now that it is in place, you will carry it out . Guest again, i dont agree with every law that comes out of the legislature, but once they have voted, it is our job my job and the legislators job to make sure you that we implement it. Host jim is joining us, another colorado viewer. Caller two questions. One, the Rural ElectricGreen Energy Issue that has surfaced. As i understand, its going to raise our roots rates at 14. 5we are already cents per kwh. I dont understand why its going to be so dramatic. The second part, involving proposition 22, it will be a tax my understanding is a significant percentage of that will go to top up yet it will be positioned as it is all about the children an education when it is really about helping folks retire at young ages or make sure their retirement programs stay solid. Guest in terms of the world rural setting of goals for girl rural energy, you look at the real risk of Climate Change. In colorado, our water storage half of our Storage Capacity is in the snowpack in our mountains. As it gets warmer, our ranchers and farmers are at risk. We want to make sure we try not to lose a single acre of Agricultural Land that can be productive, and lose it for lack of water. What that law or initiative stated was that the rural coops would participate not at the same level as the large utilities, but they were already committed to get to 10 of their energy through renewable sources. At no point were they allowed to increase the bills to their consumers by more than 1 . This newlog allows them to go new law allows them to go up to 2 . We are talking a quarter, . 50, maybe a dollar a month. That could be more if you are a large user of electricity. The goal there is to say, if we are going to try to address some of the risks of potentials of Climate Change, we want everybody participating. We did not want it to be a burden. Representatives from the coops, from consumer groups, Renewable Energy activists to say, how do we make sure we implement this so it doesnt have a big spike in cost. 22 is the most comprehensive set of educational reforms, not just in colorados history but the history of the u. S. He asked about whether that is going to go to pension. That is not the case. It is going to provide high quality Early Childhood education for atrisk kids there is Additional Resources for kids to come from extreme poverty. For the first time, the money will follow the kids. Right now we do a census of all the kids and all the classrooms and that defines how much money the school gets. If this passes, if this kid jobs out a month later, whatever proportion is remaining of the school year, that proportion the school loses its funding. They have an incentive to keep highrisk kids, the kids who have been dropping out and getting into trouble ash costs of property damage, incarceration add up. As we hire new Early Childhood education teachers, they will pay into pera. There is no ability of this law to be used to backfill our pensions in any way. Host power line for democrats with governor hickenlooper. Our line for democrats, with governor hickenlooper. Caller id like to hear you address my concern over nonviolent criminals or convicts getting out of prison and there opportunity for work. Applications ask if you have been convicted of a crime. I want to separate violent criminals from nonviolent. Somebody gets put in jail for drugs or Something Like that, theyre being punished, they get out and now we make it hard for the rest of their lives. We are sort of driving them towards crime. I want to hear your thoughts on that. Guest this is a point that you raised you do see these great kids the first time i heard of this issue, there were bama guys in their mid20s. Three of them had served our country in the military. They got arrested for i think it was marijuana related charges. It ended up being a felony conviction. Suddenly it is exactly what you say. Every time they apply for a job, they have a felony. We have people looking at that and say, is there a way we can address that. It is an issue all over the country. Is there a way that once people have paid their due, and we let them not have this stamp on the record. It would be a major change legally and there are a number of people who still feel strongly that once someone has made that mistake, you can give them another chance but that record should follow them and people should be alert that they broke whatever law, they broke a significantly sufficient law and it stays on the record. Host our next caller is from aurora, colorado. Caller im surprised to hear the governor speak of Climate Change when his administration is overseeing the biggest oil and gas boom in the history of the state of colorado. And how it is essentially the heart and spirit of colorado. It is driving the economy. I dont know how you can speak as a governor about this boom and popularity of it. The denver post stated there is 50,000 oil and gas wells in the state of colorado and it is being increased by 50 every week. This is a huge part of colorado. It causes most of the ozone pollution in the state of colorado. It is something that really needs to be spoken a lot about. Guest a couple things. Colorado, like most western states, we have the split estate. The person who owns the mineral rights to the gas underground, the person who owns the minerals underground has a right to get access to the surface. That surface is usually owned by someone different. In my opinion it is a terrible system because you have natural conflict of someone who is ranching or farming or just enjoying their lives on the surface, and the person owns the mineral rights below them has a right to get access to the surface. Our job is to make sure it is done safely. Colorado has the most rigorous set of rules or it we require groundwater testing before they drill. A year or two years after, another groundwater test. We were the first state to reach a compromise with the Environmental Community and oil and gas community. We are rigorous about pushing oil and gas drilling further away from schools and hospitals, places of assembly. The other thing that is missed too often is new technology. Horizontal drilling has created this revolution in oil and Gas Exploration and allowed us to recover natural gas at levels never imagined before. Natural gas was 8. 50 and is now between three dollars and four dollars and see if dollars. If you look at the other benefits of natural gas, as we retire some of the older coal plants and convert to natural gas, it is so dramatically cleaner. People dont often recognize this, but there are a number of estimates that suggest we are halfway towards compliance with kyoto. We never signed kyoto, but that is a significant step forward. Our Carbon Emissions are back down to the level they were when nixon turned the white house over to kennedy in 1961. That is a germanic change. It is happening through inexpensive and cleaner natural gas. Dramatic change. It is happening through inexpensive and cleaner national gas. People have no desire to have an oil and gas well killing within 500 feet or 1000 feet of their place of business or home drilling within 500 feet or 1000 feet of their place of business or home. How do you balance that with the changes that come with it . Host an email from josh, how much does colorado expect to save because of Marijuana Legalization . Is there savings . Guest i dont know if there is savings. One of the reasons that so many people supported legalizing marijuana was that the war on drugs, many people felt it was a failure. The earlier caller asked about these kids to get a conviction for marijuana. It is on their record and changes their ability to hold or get a job for the rest of their lives. We have had a system that did not work. In that sense, perhaps a legalization will save us money. But were very concerned about 15yearold, 16yearold kids who the number of kids to go through difficult times in those years, and some of them have differing levels of stability in their home lives or they may have Mental Health issues of their own. They slip off the tracks and they start smoking pot, drinking, get into a self destructive pattern of behavior. It can be much harder to get them back on the track. We want to make sure we have enough money in the system so that we can address some of those concerns. Host the Washington Post quotes you as you talk about your reelection campaign, quote, if i lose, i go back to 14 weeks of vacation. Im in a no lose situation. Do you want another term . Guest yes. [laughter] those things get taken out of context. You wont meet someone more competitive than i am. I love a Good Campaign and i hope we get as many people in the campaign as possible open a real chance to debate the issues. Im going to play as hard as i can. In the end, i had a great life before i got into politics. I ran for mayor in 2003 and it was the first time iran for anything. I ran for anything. Before that, had traveled the word world. If somehow i dont prevail, if i mess things up in the campaign, my point was im going to go back to a life was what i always worked for was to be able to enjoy my older years with the people dont get to do. Like a lot of people, i worked week after week. I would go into work at seven or eight in the morning. Sometimes i would be there until one or 2 00 at night. When you have your own business, you put in those hours. When you get to retire, you really get to retire. Not everyone gets to do that. I certainly love being governor and of going to work as hard as i can to try to be reelected. Host a convicted murderer responsible for famine deaths and you granted him a temporary reprieve four deaths and you granted him a temporary reprieve. Why did you do that . Guest there can be no question that he had severe bipolar disability. There was no question that he wasnt guilty, and wasnt by reason of insanity. They got to eight or nine or 10 of the jurors and gave them this evidence that the kid clearly was severely bipolar. Once they got him medications in 2005, he suddenly showed remorse and became a different person. When the jurors saw that information i said, that wouldve made a difference. Three of them signed affidavits. At this point, it calls into