Transcripts For CSPAN NASA Briefing On Artemis Mission To The Moon 20220806

See a crowd of this size here. You will notice most of the day today has and most of your experience has been looking at artemis as a whole in the future Artemis One Mission will bring us very soon. At this time in our media, we are going to bring the a panel of experts to discuss the Artemis One Mission in more detail. We will discuss the mission operations, recovery, the capitol, European Service module and astronaut training preparing for artemis to and beyond. Joining us to provide marks and answer questions we have here the space center, rick, lead artemis director, artemis one entry flight director, debbie course, deputy manager and read wiseman, chief astronaut. Joining us remotely from the Kennedy Space center in florida, Melissa Jones, artemis one recovery director and joining us from the European Space agency in the netherlands, Service Model program manager. Thank you all for being here. We will start with a short presentation from each of our briefs before opening up for questions. We will take questions on our phone bridge as well as here in the room. Please raise your hand high so we can see you and to run the microphone over to you and ask the question when you have a microphone. For those on the phone, press star one so we can get to you and ask your questions. Well start with our experts here and ill hit it over rick and jed. Thank you and my name is rick, lead flight director for the Artemis One Mission. Before we start with our Mission Overview i want to take a moment and thank you all for taking out today. Our teams have been working hard for a very long time and this is special, we are excited and we want to make sure the public feels our excitement and heres our story and we realized we are relying on you completely to do that so thank you for coming out today and showing an interest in our mission so we will pick up with an overview of the mission and handed over to start the first part. The artemis one first plan will be august 29 october 10. Charlie and her team Launch Control center we will and over vehicle once they launch the vehicle launch 8. 8 Million Pounds we will our journey. We can have a graphic there. Once we start liftoff and the vehicle clears the tower we will start the program to bring the capitol headdown position much like we did and shuttle. About a minute in, who will experience maximum dynamic pressure so the engines for that. About two minutes into the flight, the rocket booster motor and an attached from the court stage in the atlantic. We continue to another three and a half minutes or so, the Service Module panel along with the logical system will expose the Service Model and capitol continuing on further throughout the flight, about eight and a half minutes where we have main engine, and then we will separate court stage from the combined orion and upper stage or interim control upper stage, that will continue on. Then about 18 minutes we will deploy the solar rays where i parse the batteries and it will take about 12 minutes to deploy. We will continue to our first burn performed by upper stage called the raise maneuver. Court stage puts us in orbit 16 nautical miles by 975 orbit so if we did nothing at that time to correct the small side and 16 orbit, the whole capitol would come back to the earth just like the course they just going to do in the pacific. We will perform that maneuver to 100 nautical miles approximately 51 minutes into the mission. The whole time upper stage will be in control of the stack. In the interim it will do several maneuvers to get to a solar friendly attitude to the spacecraft and some maneuvers to make sure the whole vehicle is thermally conditioned. Pressing on forward, once we have obtained safe orbit, it will continue on and final maneuver by upper stage would be the trans injection orbit maneuver by the upper stage, approximately an hour and 20, 30 minutes into the flight. About 18 minutes burn and will send us to the moon approximately quarter million miles away. Once we complete the injection maneuver and separate upper stage from the ryan spacecraft and my team will hand over to rick and he will start the majority of the mission there. If we could go to the next chart please. Theres no time to catch our breath, we really hit the ground running. On this first chart after we separate from the upper stage, it does a disposal burn which sends it contradictory to the moon, they will swing around the moon toward the sun. On his way to the moon, it will deploy a handful, secondary payloads. We have no interaction with those payloads. The thing we are concerned with his trajectories for their deployed so we can do an assessment on the potential recontact. We should have no concerns but we need to make sure its what we expect so with that, i want to get away from this chart. Lets go to the next chart take off the icp as part. Im going to talk through this, its 42 days and try to do it in a handful of minutes. By all means there will be plenty of times to ask questions after we are finished here. We hit first day hit the ground running. One of the first things we will do is a test of guidance and navigation control system, a set of gains used and the way they fire thrusters, normal attitude control and we need to make sure gains are set such that we dont damage solar rays. Thats one of the first things we do once we separate and then the first thing we are also going to the first of a handful of trajectory correction burned. This very first one we are going to check out orbital maneuvering system, a big engine we use. We want to check that out because the engine we use when we do big burn on the outbound power flyby and ill talk about that shortly but the first burn is a check out and it will get us moving ahead of the upper stage and satellites so we should get to the moon around two and a half hours before satellites and upper stage two so thats why theres no concern of recontact. On our way to the moon, we will do a series of outbound corrections, they are very small are designed to be small if we have dispersions because they bring didnt go as planned, we will make it up in a subsequent burn. We have four on the way to the moon and they set us up for outbound power flyby. That is the burn that will move orion and send it up to the retrograde orbit so when we do that burn and we go by the moon, we are going to be about 60 miles off the surface of the moon, it will be spectacular. We will be holding our breath. To that note, when it actually executes, orion will be on the other side of the moon and we wont have time with it so well be praying and holding our breath but confident all will go well. After that burn, a census up to the retrograde orbit. A couple days after the burn, will do what we call insurgent burn, retrograde orbit insertion and we will use the big engine to enter the retrograde orbit and once we are in that orbit, we will spend a little over two weeks there. Youve heard us talk about long past missions and short Class Missions, the only difference in those two types of missions are linked to state and the retrograde orbit. For short Class Missions, we just do a half laugh and we had court back. In the long grass we do it. And a half, a little over two weeks. While in the district retrograde orbit, we will do what we call orbit maintenance, smoke burned to keep orbit in sync. We will do that in the next two weeks and then distant retrograde departure burn, another large burn using engine that will send us back to the moon and on our way back we do what we call return trajectory corrections and we will do a series of those all the way back to earth. We have a couple of those and it sets us up for the return flyby, are most critical burn on the mission. If something happens with that and we dont execute it, then its a loss of the ryan capitol. We have to do that one but we plan accordingly and we can talk about that if you have questions. We do rps which sets up the inter interface, the area when we enter the atmosphere several days later and said the are splashdown off the coast of california. On the return trip back to the earth we do a series of correction burned i talked about and its all to make sure we hit the entry interface target as designed. Ive gone through the mission very quickly. Just so you know on those days we coast to the moon, we are doing a lot of activities, about mental flight test objectives to basically test the onboard systems. We are doing Public Affairs outreach everyday, maneuver, a selfie of orion with the moon in the background and some days try to catch earth rise, thats a spectacular image. Theres a couple milestones throughout the mission we enter this sphere of influence of the lunar taking effect. Its a milestone we will capture the Public Affairs imagery. When we get to the furthest away any human rated spacecraft has ever been as far as vehicles, we want to capture that at a Public Affairs event so we will be busy the whole mission. Its really quick but once we get back to earth we do rtc which sets up the entry interface and he can take you to the rest of us. As rick mentioned, the return power flyby maneuver is essentially orbit burn way back at the moon about a week before we enter the earths atmosphere. About 20 minutes before we enter the interface, we will separate you can go to the slide there that we have next slide. We will separate from the Service Model and once we perform that, we will get into proper orientation, command module for entry. We will do set burn after command module and Service Model separation, thats the shallow, the angle the command module is entering so it provides more separation from the Service Model which will dispose in the pacific ocean. We will start entry interface and we are doing a skip entry profile so we will hit entry interface at 400,000 feet and then immediately start to control the factor of the capitol such that we dip a little bit in the atmosphere and come back up out of the atmosphere a bit and then come back and so will have two blackout. Due to the plasma heating of the capitol. Once we get out of the second. , we will continue our journey toward splashdown site in san diego off the coast of san diego. We have the four they covered and i think the next slide is a better picture to show you the secrets. Once we get further down into the atmosphere, about 35000 feet the jettison brings out the drove shoes deployed around 24000 feet followed by 6800 feet in between 6800 and 5600 feet and we will continue down to 1500 feet where the orion capsule will do landing reorientation maneuver such that it will roll the capsule so we hit the waves of the ocean at the proper angle. Once we splashdown, we will leave the vehicle powered for about two hours and do some testing there, thermal testing to make sure we have adequate cooling for astronauts when we do eventually have them on board waiting to be picked up by the recovery crew. After that two hour period, we will powerdown the vehicle and hand over the vehicle to jones and her team, the Recovery Team on navy boats. I headed back to you. Thank you. Fortytwo day mission in 15 minutes, fantastic. Thanks for the detailed Mission Overview, lets go to debbie. Good morning and thank you for being here, its great to see a room full of people and the excitement about this mission. Exciting time for nasa and orion, been working on this for a long time and we look forward to where we are going to go on this mission 24 days from now heading back to the moon so its amazing. Lets go to the next animation, we got a graphic here to explain the pieces of the vehicle. Its made up of three main elements. Is there an animation we can show . Thank you. Its made up of three main modules, crew, launch a work surface and the service. You heard group module referred to as the command module, the civil capitol there. The services are actually made up about 1300 silica miles, similar to the bottom of the shuttle during shuttle days. Its covered in aluminum tape to help with thermal production so that is what you see on the outside. On the bottom you will see the heat shall we talk about being a primary test, 16 and a half feet in diameter, the biggest weve ever built. The group module has its own small system, several reaction control system that perform those type of maneuvers on the reentry when we have to orient to the right orientation for landing. Parachutes, 11 total parachutes you saw pictures of that deployed in a sequence time sequence to slope the vehicle down from about 350 miles an hour down to less than 20 when we hit the water. You will be happy we are hitting at that speed. We talk about the large abort system and Service Model when youre done using these vices to help separate and make the separations. When you go inside the cabin, he got Environmental Control and life support systems so everything that controls pressure, temperature and humidity inside the volume, that module is designed to hold for members for 21 days and this is our test flight so expect to learn a lot how these systems work. Inside the vehicle theres avionics systems, Guidance Navigation control Medication Systems which are a lot different than the gps you probably you. To get here today, it doesnt work outside of where we are going such a deep base network kind of system for communications and several payloads we are flying on this flight, several of which are in the crews seat, we wont be flying through, is assimilated human tissue and organs looking at Radiation Protection and environment, acceleration of the vehicle and how it affects the human body because our goal is for the crews flight and artemis for future flights will be this mission but we will add in Waste Management system and exercise equipment crew health and comfort and safety during the mission. Next slide. This is the crew module and Service Model located in our factory, this is before we install the launch abort system so artemis one, we are Testing Systems and capabilities and this will be the configuration and the vehicle available mostly during the mission we are talking. One of the Main Objectives youve heard is the heat shield, it is the vehicle comes back in about 25000 miles an hour and we end up but temperatures about 5000 fahrenheit, about half the temperature of the surface of the sun so very high temperatures. We have a block designed made up of these blocks adhering to skin and skeleton and we will test as the Main Objective then you would talk about the other objectives and you can see solar rays up against the vehicle. We do a survey wants deployed in looking how they respond to different engine firings to handle the vibration and lows throughout the profile, checking out guidance and navigation and control and the parachute systems as we come back in. Next slide. The next picture is the vehicle as it came into the vehicle, vertical Assembly Building here so is a lot different now. We got the group module and Service Module and launch abort system on top. Launch abort system didnt talk about that previously, its the designed to pull the crew capsule away in cases of emergency on the launch pad or during the absent phase so its made up of three rocket motors, first is abort and not hold the crewmember away. Very powerful zero to 400 miles an hour in two seconds so very quick. Really trying to outrun as outlets that might have an issue during lunch. At the top of the system is the attitude control motor and it separated from the hazardous, the crew module away and allows to get is so safe location. This would get the launch abort system. Artemis one, the motor is the only active order, we dont and on using other functions, we didnt put the motors on the vehicle but the just and water works every flight so either eventually you take it off whether in a normal white or emergency situation. Next slide. This is a picture rolling out for a wet dress rehearsal. Before we got here, every component and every system, every module on the spacecraft has been thoroughly tested. Weve done over 48 engine test between ox engines and main engine we talked about to make sure we have robust propulsion system, the parachute system which showed, 25 different drop tests we did, capsules and darts at the back of military aircraft making sure we can handle every parameter, things that shoot out or different wind conditions, looking at all of that in the program, literally thousands of hours of avionics offer testing in the laboratory here where the contractor is located we took the spacecraft to a thermal chamber about Glenn Research center, the armstrong test facility, its been over 47 days not Chamber Bring it out because in every aspect of the temperatures, the backing and pressures, acoustics, its a lot of time testing this component at the module level. If you been following artemis for a while, you know we did three flight test, who done to complete flight test of launch abort system, looking at performance from the pad and one was the abort, looking at it during the dynamic phase. Finally we had the flight test one that happened a few years ago that tested out most of the group module systems and without our Service Module. Here we are on the pad, this was the last picture we took before we roll back in. I love this photo, the moon in the background, our destination calling to us, a huge amount of collaboration and testing and energy and effort has gone into putting this together. We had id say three to 4000 suppliers every state of the United States so huge effort across the country. Also a Strong Partnership with our european on the European Service module. Didnt talk about the Service Module, the manager of the Service Module program is online, i will give it over to him to talk to the details there but we are rolling out on the 18th and im looking forward to this flight and everything so if you would like to talk about the Service Module, that would be great, thanks. Thank you. We are also very excited about this Upcoming Mission which will be lets see, after ten years we started this program. Sorry, i have a blank. So i would have loved to be there in person to take this media event but im taking it here from the Research Center of the space agency in holland in the mission room, we will use here to support the mission. This is and in addition to the team that will be at kennedy. Can i see the next slide, please . As debbie says, the Service Module is one part of the orion vehicle. We are extremely proud another has trusted us to provide critical function to the orion vehicle. The most critical functions of the propulsion, the total system, our generation and the storage for the crew. The Service Module engine, one man engine and engine recovered from the shuttle, the orbital system of the shuttle. Also a backup of the main engine. In 24 engines for the control and correction during the mission. The propulsion system includes tanks that can store 8. 4 8. 6 sorry, pounds and the pressurization system. Now moving to the turbo system, a free loop pumping fluid and disturbing fluids within the dsm. One of the main functions is to recheck the heat from the service, avionics equipment but also the crew module in order to keep the environment were the crew. The next function is the power divided by the solar panels. The solar panels provide 11 kilowatts of power. It provides more than you need in order to supply the needs of the home for over a day. In addition to solar panels, there is a system in order to condition the power and distributed to the crew module. Finally, the crew consumable in the future version for the artemis to mission less, this will provide water, oxygen and nitrogen for the Artemis One Mission. We will only load nitrogen and tank. There will be no oxygen tank and the water tank will be. Next slide. This is another picture than the one showed by debbie. Its a bit earlier in the Integration Phase at kennedy so not already mounted on the space after their. The integration has been delivered last [inaudible conversations] twentyone. Right now the module is being built and will be delivered to kennedy in 2023, and then the Service Module for esm four will follow with a yearly cadence from there on. Next slide. So this is a picture that was already presented and here i will emphasize on what will happen for the Service Module. I will not insist on the propulsion. I think the propulsion has already been very well described by my predecessor. I resented four functions of the Service Module. Those functions will be verified once on orbit. For example, the system will check out that everything is functioning nominally. We will also verify that our prediction of the thermal behavior of the vehicle is as expected or whether there are things that we did not predict properly and will need to adapt or correct to validate our prediction. Same things for our system. One feature which is unusual on this spacecraft is that it has two gimble access. So not only you can track the sun by rotating which usually what other spacecraft do but also you can move it forward and backwards. This is needed. One reason is during the big burns because structurally it would not be able to withstand the load if they are 90degree of the Service Module. But second it allows to have better tracking of the sun when the vehicle needs to have a specific when the vehicle will be approaching the gateway. Also as i told you we will have nitrogen on board and the reason why we love nitrogen on board is because there is a major verification to be made, is that in case of an accidental the press of the crew module for any reason we want to check that were able to repress the vehicle with nitrogen that is stored on the Service Module. And yes, once weve completed the mission, the Service Module will separate and, unfortunately, will burn and reentry in the atmosphere and will fall in small pieces of dust in the South Pacific ocean. And that concludes my presentation, my short presentation of the Service Module, the European Service module, and now i will hand over to gary. Thank you very much, philippe, and for debbie as well for getting us insight into the orion spacecraft and European Service module. We are taking a a look at the profile, taken a look at the spacecraft. Lets not go to Melissa Jones over at the Kennedy Space center to take a look at recovery operations. Melissa . Thank you. Hello, everyone. Its my pleasure today to be at you talking about the recovery operations that were going to do in order to recover this capsule. For the past several years the teambased direct Kennedy Space and have been working with the u. S. Navy to refine come to create, refine and practice a recovery operations to get the capsule back when it lands for artemis i. Just last fall we completed our final test called underway recovery test nine aboard the u. S. As martha and that certified us to do these recovery operations. These recovery tests allow us to experience life aboard and navy vessel for six to eight days as we practicing with a fullsize orion mockup, and we practice over and over again. What will happen splash day to refine how we work with the capsule and integrate with the navy. We have decadesold partnership nasa does with any guess im sure you know from our time with apollo. Recovering missions and this Artemis Program will just build on that experience that we have with them. So speaking of that, sonesta chose the navys lbd, Landing Platform dock class ship specific because of the well decade has, the helicopter pad, its onboard medical facilities and the communication capabilities you can see a picture of it on the screen. This class ship also provides us the Communication Assets we need to communicate back with a Flight Control team at jse. You heard you had talked about earlier. On recovery day we will be into medication with his team listening for burns as as a n and information that will allow us to know what it was going to get when the capsule lands from a healthy status perspective. During the mission capsule will travel about 25,000 miles an hour before slowing to 300 miles an hour after inning the earths atmosphere. When the parachutes deployed we are expecting it to slow to about 20 miles an hour before it glides into the pacific where we will go get it. That landing location is approximately 5060 nautical miles off the coast of california. During the final hours of the mission what we do to prepare while the capsule is getting ready to come back through entry is we deploy some helicopters off of the flight deck of the ship. We talked about that, and some divers. If we can pull up the first slide. Have a picture of the diverse interaction with the capsule but basically those folks need to be in the open water in the air because were trying to get as much a Data Collected as a cannon upon entry. So we want to see the parachutes. We want to take imagery. We need temperatures, how is the tps performing and so its important we are deployed so we can get information as quickly as possible. And then the deployed team of divers as pictured on your screen the very first task and will have us try to get the jettison hardware that was mentioned before it sinks. Theres a forward cover that comes off the top of the capsule. Judd talked about that, in three main parachutes, the Top Priorities we have for getting back as quick as possible that hard work. Of course if we can get any of the other parachutes we will absolutely try to do that but those are our priorities. While thats happening there would be some test happening on the orion vehicle mentioned for cooling and other things. So we let the capsule sit powered up for a while while we are focusing on jettison hardware. So you can see once we ready to recover the capsule of divers will approach the capsule which is an picture you look at, attached something called a pony caller which is that colorful lack and yellow and red and orange collar around it and that allows us to attach lines to the capsule so we can tow the capsule into the back of the ship into what is called the well deck. If you want to go to the next picture. You can see all of the lines are attached and we now have a ship, the picture is being taken from a rehab which is a rigid whole inflatable boat where the navy is holding the capsule from the back and there are lines being attached to the front from the ship and then we will tell you that capsule into the well deck where we will hold it steady while the navy drains the well deck. If you want to go to the final picture, you can see copy of what it looks like in psychic you can see the lot of water in the well deck. We slide it. The navy flight suit. They the stern gate, hump a bunch of water in that allows us to pull the capsule in. The front corner of the screen you can see the yellow. Thats underwater but that is the orion recovery cradle assembly. We will hold the capsule steady with those lines while the navy pumps all the water out of the well deck and softly lands the capsule in that cradle. This whole timeline will be probably four to five hours long which is a lot longer than it will be for crew, but this objective for the first nation is a Data Collection and Engineering Data that will allow us to fly crew on artemis ii maxa were very careful with all the tps, the heat shield come all the things the Orion Program needs to look at this capsule and say yes, we think we can fly crew on the next one. I think its probably enough data for now. I think we will get into more details and a question and answers. I will hand it back over to houston. Thank you very much. You are saying the artemis i mission from into in, testing, the orion spacecraft able eventually carry humans from and to the men and those humans are training as we speak. We will talk about the humans that will make that journey. Lets go over to thanks, gary. This is unbelievably exciting to look at the artemis i mission and so much detail. Obviously we dont have crew on the first flight but we have 42 active astronauts here at houston, ten astronaut candidate and would will be beating down the door for artemis ii mac and so on. When we think about artemis with focus a lot on the men but i want everybody in the room and everybody watching to remember our sites are not set on the moon. Our sights are set clearly on mars. Everything or think about today, everything were going to do on artemis i come artemis i leads to artemis ii which leads to artemis iii would hope to have humans on a service of the men but artemis iii is leading to the rest of the Artemis Program. The first woman, the first person told on the surface of the moon and then the first human striking at the mars and putting our footsteps and building science laboratories and inhabiting another planet. To me it is just the most aweinspiring moment that weve had here at nasa and i love working here right now. Its an honor to get to do so. What our 42 active in ten the candidates do now to prepare for all of this . I have just a few quick slides. Far left a detailed, and my nasa counterparts, european friends, philippe. But in order to land on the moon, in order to land on mars we will come down pretty much a vertically, whether it is spacex option a a building human lanr for the moon that we will fly or other contractors that are coming on like to take some submissions. Were going to come down vertically. Were spending time right now with the army just to get familiar with landing vertically, landing in snow. What does it look like to be whited out like on the surface of mars or the service of the moon, and just a few hours and helicopter but it is amazing how much you learn, how quickly you learn. We are doing that not so were good at landing vertically but so we understand the new and different risks when you dont have one when youre landing on. And john lott. Next slide. And you learn a lot. We have been working off the planet for quite a while on this little tiny thing called the International Space station. Theres a great picture of russia who just came home on spacex crew3, the commander. Our crews up there right now, through four and their conducting science day and night 24 7, 365 days a year. Weve been doing this since 2000 and everyday that i spent on the space station i look at it as walking on mars. That is why were up there. Were trying to make life better on earth and trying to expand humanity into our solar system. Next slide. This makes me jealous. One of my classmates, kate, is summer in that photo, two time flag to the space station, microbiologist and we have are out in a european Training Session just a few months ago called pangaea where were going out and looking at all lunar geology, how we would sample rocks, how we would get lunar samples, retain them, cataloging for the scientists on earth. What we need to think about is a total giveaway of thinking in the geologic timescale and just think of the way a jealous would think on the surface of the moat and onward to mars. Were doing that training and also train a lot in iceland. It is a very good analogue to the lunar surface. Next slide. Some of you this afternoon will go over to our Virtual Reality laboratory and Virtual Reality is just paying enormous dividends right now. We expect the next human landing on the mood to be at the south pole and if youve ever looked out at the moon at night, the south pole has got a very weird sun angle, very weird like that hits it. Theres permanently shaded regions and with develop, hopefully you can see, we have developed in the Virtual Reality world what it looks like, what exact sun angle that we will be landing on. And it is crazy weird. A bottom half of you can be an outfit like this and a top after youve in blinding sunlight. The way shadows are projected across the lunar surface changes literally everything. In this Virtual Reality where we can go in there for ten minutes and you can add to 1000 questions. You can stop 200 meetings with 1010 minutes of vr goggles. It was a great facility. I think youll like it. Next light. We also over in building five at the Johnson Space center have the orion crew trainer. There you have stephanie, johnny and randy who have been heavily involved in the development of orion alessi years. What it will feel like to fly, and that trainer is being outfitted right now and will be mighty later this you to start a crew training. Next light. The final flight in this i think some of you out this morning at a neutral Buoyancy Laboratory about ten minutes north of the Johnson Space center. Very large pool where we have been training for International Space station spacewalks for two decades and now were taking a portion of the pool and look at what it would look like to be on the men, to spend six hours and a lunar class spacesuit doing research on the bottom be pool. Its an amazingly fantastic facility to be underwater to spend that much time thinking about how we will be to be on a so we will be using that as an move forward. And thats the end of my powerpoint. The question everyone will ask as when are we assigned a crew artemis ii and we hope that will be later this year. Thank you. Very good. Thanks to all of our briefers for the very detailed overview of the artemis i mission, and what we are doing for the future to build upon artemis and going to the men and to mars. We are extending our time for the briefing to give us about 45 minutes for questions. So we will spend some time taking some questions here and room and then of course on our phone bridge. So review of how were going to take the questions. Raise your hand nice and high so we can see and then we run a microphone over to you and then you can ask your question with a microphone, start over on this site and complete state once you have the microphone state your name, your affiliation and whom you would like to direct your question. We have folks him all over the just make sure you stay to who you would like to state your question. If you are on phone bridge press star which is a major name into the queue and once your name is called you can direct the question to anyone here on a panel. If you find your question as artie been answered you can withdraw it at any time by pressing start two. So with that lets start here in the the room on this site. Please go ahead. State your name, affiliation and whom you like to address your question. Chris with nsf. I believe they are for judd. In terms of assets with the launch port system not having its motors installed what a board options are available and when did he become available . On the flipside of that for landing when youre coming into san diego what if the weather isnt good at the landing site on october ten . What are your options to target a different one . What are the backup landing option . Great question, chris. Our onboard options become available after the last jettisons, about three and a half minute mark. Our first abort mode we have available to us is untargeted splash. That would be where we separate and splashdown summer in the atlantic ocean. We also have an overlap between the untargeted abort splash mode and then an abort once around option. Thats about 7 2 minutes or so into the flight when we have that overlap and the abort once around would take the capsule and put us off the coast of california in the pacific. Additionally, we have, once the rays are deployed after about that 18 plus 12 minute mark we have available to us should something go wrong with the upper stage we have the option to abort to orbit. We will do we wouldnt be going to the moon in that. As far as your question on entry, what options do we have for abort landing for weather, once we do our burn back at rpf returned power flyby, our trajectory along the earths surface is fixed. So the only things we can do to modulate his land a little longer than we intended or land sure that we intended. So up range or downrange. And so we have several sites within 1200 nautical miles of san diego that we will be looking at to make sure we can, and we are 90 confident we will be able to find one that will fit all the conditions we need to splashdown. Most didnt mention this but three days out before splashdown, a Recovery Team is going to be halfway between that 1200 nautical mile and san diego. Once we have a better i do with weather is going to be like we will either send the recovery forces inland or if the weather is bad inland then they will proceed outland. Is this working . My name is john, a correspondent for news and again begin r the redundancy. Once we get all the data from this Unmanned Mission whats a refined timeline for when human beings are going to be going back to the moon . Do you want to add to that . So after artemis i the next up will be artemis ii which is planned for 2024. So that would be the crewed mission, take all the data from this flight. Artemis ii use pictures of the European Service module, artemis has ordered vindaloo. The systems are being fabricated now atkins as well. We talked mostly about artemis i but those vehicles are rapidly being built, planned to hand those over to her grand support friends in mid2024 and launched by the end of 24 crew. As far as artemis iii targets in 2025, annual missions after that. Its outside the scope of this briefing because theres other components that had to feed into that but in terms of the orion vehicle at a launch a system those are both to be ready by then. Mark with aviation week and space technology, and my question is for rick labrode. How will this mission informed Mission Control in the team to prepare for the crewed flights, either two and three . I guess what im saying is, what would you guys be focused on to make sure that you got the bases covered for when you have a crew . Thats a good question. So right now all the performance data we have with the vehicle is really test data that debbie talked about. We supported all the status but its all either test data or models in theory. This mission is going to inform all the models. Were going to see other vehicles really perform in the environment that were asking it to perform in. So all that information is going to be knowledge that were going to gain. Will be updating all of our procedures and documentation to make it more accurate as to how that vehicle is going to operate and thus is going to make us smarter controls for when it is time to put the crew on the vehicle. Irene, probably for judd. After the maneuver how long before the burn my tribute to have orion with earth orbit if theres an issue and also what is a battery life on orion for the solar rays need to be deployed . Great questions, irene. Lets see, so first question on how long can orion day onboard orbit if there was an onboard, if there was a problem . So if theres a problem with the upper stage, orion has, still has the engine available to it so we can circularize can we can raise if we need you on its own. We can perform an orbital insertion, although in that case we are likely not going to the moon. Does that answer your question . No. Is there [inaudible] is the upper stage available with some other issue comes up where you are not burning according to your nominal timeline, is there an option to delay the gli burn . I understand that. No, there is option. The upper stage is pretty much a fire and forget the vehicle. So if it doesnt perform the maneuver or if it doesnt tli maneuver, orion is not have the commodities to get to the moon by itself so it has to be put on that tli burn by the upper stage, and it has to be at the times that we prescribed. Your second question about the batteries, how long do the orion batteries last . They can last about 4550 minutes for a little bit in an hour time range, just enough to get to the abort once around, should that be needed. Robert pearlman with collect space. One for rick and one for reid. Rick, realizing theres no crew on board, how is the flight team going to be referring to the vehicle when it is in orbit over the loops . Does it have a call sign or is it orion artemis i . And for reid, are the members of the Astronaut Corps doortodoor aside specific technical role for artemis i as a caped crusader or on reentry or in Mission Control . Mine is easy. It is orion. We will refer to it as orion mine is more complicated. Many of these people you know well, stand will be working in Mission Control following along as if we had a capsule communicator on, on consol. So stand will be looking for Mission Control perspective. Randy has been following orion on our technical side with the Orion Program the last years well be look at the technical aspects of the nation. Joe is our head chief so we will redoubt at Kennedy Space center we get all of our processes leading up to the bad and it also on return. And then i will also be at kennedy for large looking at where will we be putting family, where will we be in Launch Control the day the crews onboard the vehicle and i will be there with our flight ops director, norm, as we do that. Thats the smallscale but also understanding that this artemis i mission gets everybody fired up. So there is a a large press elements a you will see astronauts all over, with the administrator will be doing a lot of interviews especially i know this afternoon a lot of folks will be touring you around as you are going through the spacesuited. We will be all over the place but for the technical roles those are only the folks we have assigned. I said orion, thats what well call it but we do have the crew module and the Service Module and allow the systems, theres a system on both modules so we would then refer to it as the crew module or Service Module level. Thank you. I have one for philippe and maybe one for melissa. Reid was some systems like the Waste Management et cetera not flight on orion im curious what the experience you are looking for for the astronaut to get, the Centers Going to be on the manikins et cetera in the spacecraft how germane and how accurate can to get a picture of what that expense is going to be like . For melissa on recovery, with an extended retrieval time for the testing whats the target recovery for an actual crew that youre going to want to aim for . From the crew on board standpoint, i have to the honest im most looking for is how does this integrated system were, how does the core states Vehicle Dynamics work on a set . I know that will be good. How does oblate of architecture work on reentry, that a something will be watching. For the ride inside weve been working on this vehicle for years. Weve been doing egress training. Weve been looking at the waste facility, the exercise facility for years. That is not what we looking to get out of artemis i. This is a robust vehicle. Its built the code to deep space. Its going to be ready for crew when were ready to fly on artemis ii for short. I might add on artemis i that were flying like i i said soe payloads that will help inform our models to make sure this is that the design we are predicted is actually realized during the flight. The kind of environment way about acceleration, vibrations all postings were making. The heat shield has hundreds of sensors embedded in this app code blocks would be collecting actual temperatures at actual locations different depth different locations, same thing with a landing load speed we have sensors picking that up. So really in terms of crew protection and crew occupancy its really about validating the designs and that were ready. These other systems like Waste Management, galleys, exercise we do have a lot of those capabilities to test on the ground. We have crew over all the time testing out those facilities. You will see the mockup and theres all of those capabilities in their as well as the people were building up now for artemis ii ali have the Waste Management system has been installed for a year. In terms of that was specifically that same Waste Management system has moved on to the space station. Philippe mentioned reid mentioned we use it as a testbed all the time to prove out the things like food dynamics. You really want to test in zero gravity so the Waste Management system is on board today. We had a second question for melissa. Lets go over to melissa. That was a great question. Our requirements for getting crew is two hours. I will tell you that our estimates think we can beat that pretty significantly. We think were looking at about 80 minutes. I will tell you the capsule you saw in the picture that we showed you does not have any interior, and the trainer were using to refine those egress procedures with the dod and timing is almost finished. Its going to final stages of verification and validation. As soon as artemis i is over the first test we will embark on with the navy will have that new capsule that has a hatch and seeds in it and we will start refining how quickly we can get to the capsule, open hatch, get the crew out and get into med ban on the shipper estimate is 80 minutes at the center we think we can refine those procedures. Lets go back in the room. Abc news. I think this is for you, rick. If you launch at 8 33 a. M. , a 42 day mission. If you launch slips in that window how does a Mission Duration change and why . Actually the Mission Duration doesnt change at all. It will force our team to do a lot of replanning but for the most part the mission is identical. Thats at the beautiful thing about allowing for a twohour launch window, gives us flexibility for the launch teams to successfully launch, and we can still execute the same mission. Things, the burns, primary burns may slide on order of minutes but pretty much the mission will be exact, the exact same spot i will add onto that, so the reason, its at the same duration is every launch a day we are targeting the same point in space for tli, and so when we move through that window we are just changing the angle at which the rocket is approaching that tli and actually the tli is moving westward lee throughout that window. So were changing the angle at which we are approaching. At the risk of being way out of my skis come with relaunch steps. We got the 29th i think the the second and the fifth. I think this is an important point. We are flying this vehicle as a test flight. We do not know everything. We have modeled everything. We defiled it everything and tested everything we can test on the ground but its a whole different ballgame when you roll to the bad and you go to get off that path. So theres a very solid chance we will, go for the 29th and we dont make the 29th. Theres a chance we chance we dont make the second and the fifth and a neck is would roll back, we set a few systems and go back out. The next set we do go to the shorter class 22 i think day mission. So just keep in mind there was a lot of unknowns still out there. Just clear, the 29th, the second and the fifth are all long class can all be 40 to emissions. But if we roll back and go into the next launch period then we start off, generally the first part of the launch window which is several weeks as a short class and then we transition to a long class. Bill harvey, cbs news. I want to follow up on the last ones. We have all been told 29, second and fifth. Charlie Blackwell Thompson said last week or earlier this week if you roll out on the 18th she said get two attempts. [inaudible] i dont understand [inaudible] when does a 20 day clock starts ticking . [inaudible] if im standing in my driveway looking [inaudible] look at the orientation. [inaudible] what is paul ryan doing . What is orion doing . We didnt capture the effort tv such as a quick reiteration and then answer. The first question bill had was what is the actual constraint on a flight termination system and what is a 20 days charlie Blackwell Thompson talked about come from . And where does oclock start. The clock starts during the processing in the vab that that window starts when they install the batteries. They charge them up. Thats when the certification period or starts at 20 days, i believe and are not exactly sure the day theyre planning to do that but that will be around like the 16th or 17th come Something Like that. 20 days later the range has told them that the batteries are only certified for 20 days and so i think puts you right after the second console like the third or fourth, right there, not quite to the fifth. So thats where, why she quoted two days because the 20 day certification in the right on the edge of being able to pick up the fifth. I do know that they are in talks with range, the Eastern Range to try to extend that certification to a little bit longer than 20 days. Hopefully to bring in a third attempt but those negotiations are still in works. As far as your second question, rick, you want to take it . Sure. Your reference am standing on earth watching december to what the apollo trajectories looked like in that it is in the earth moon playing. As we fly by the moon and to the outbound how flyby it will be on the backside and we will lose communication and will stay in that and it is doing and make orbit around. When we do that big orbit, the first six days, where going have a loss of, on the order of three hours because the moon is blocking the pathway to the earth. So it is they would go in lunar orbit and we will be, just [inaudible] yeah, it all depends but jt probably. Tom with nbc news. Take you for a terrific briefing. A couple followup jerks you mentioned are two blackout periods on reentry and blackout for comm. Countries when it is. Shuttle did not have any blackout periods so what has changed. Is it the reentry position . Is that the . Y two blackout periods on reentry . The second one is if there were to be a reason to abort a liftoff, any chance at all of aborting to the space station, or is that not possible at all . Thanks, good questions. As far as the blackout period the orientation of the antenna, that all has to do with why the shuttle didnt have the blackout. Originally early on in the Shuttle Program that were blackout periods until they were able to get antennas on top of the shuttle to look up at the satellites. As far as the double blackout, it is an tenia orientation and theres lots of plasma coming around, you know, i believe the soyuz is the same, same issue. There is a time where this blackout due to the plasma field. As far as your second question, no, its not a possibility to abort to the space station, not anywhere near the same orbit. Okay. So polish public television. The question will be for reid. To the astronauts from Artemis Mission need different training than other astronauts who are assigned for the issa Something Like that . And how old are they . So the way i look at it is right now we have 42 active nasa astronauts here. Artemis is an International Program and will be flying the colleagues from around earth on this vehicle as we move forward. Right now everyone of our astronauts is eligible for an Artemis Mission. So if you get assigned to a space station mission, you go into space at the space station track if you are signed artemis done when you go into specific artemis training track. While we are not assigned to those missions, i personally what our astronauts to be as wellrounded as possible. Even though you may not walk on the moon, studying geology and pangaea helps you when youre on the space station looking down at her earth, looking at the geologic processes you get to see for six months or year when youre looking down. The thing you never get with Robotic Missions by these eyes and this brain, and we can think up some crazy things and were left on board. Its crazy what you see how it changes. I say we are all the same as they get assigned a mission and the new going to a specific training track. And for age, we have anywhere from late \20{l1}s{l0}\20{l1}s{l0} all the way up to mid 60s, and as long as you are healthy there is a tiny bit of medical testing on as as long as you are healthy then were going to load two and a rocket and shoot you off the planet. And we walk on the moon. And then on to mars. Good morning. Jeff with space news. Artemis i is flying the orbit which is not an orbiter planning to use for future Artemis Missions. When you talk about the benefits and tradeoffs flying vro versus halo that youll be using for artemis iii and beyond . And also the difference between short and long Class Missions, either Mission Objectives that you would be able to achieve in the long Class Mission that you would not be able to achieve with a short Class Mission because of less time . I am very focused on artemis i missions i dont have a lot of knowledge about the other Artemis Missions but i think the knowledge we will gain from getting to the moon and getting back, how were going to build trajectories and burn plans to do that, and thats exactly what were going to use once we get to the moon in order to get into these specific orbits around the moon. Artemis i albeit its a different as you alluded to, well still gain all the notes row this vehicle is going to operate as far as the burn plans and targeting these special burns that put us in the different orbits once we get to the moon. For your second question regarding the difference between the short class and long class, actually we will be able to accompany all of our Mission Objectives on a short Class Mission. They will be closer together but we will be able to accomplish all of them even on a 2628 day mission. The challenges where to deal with is with thermal constraints where they can go out of attitude to do some of these activities but once you go out of attitude of your limited to three hours and then want to come back into attitude you have two tailed assigned for ten hours to get the thermal recovery before you go up into another one. So to plan all these activities, these events to ensure we can meet all the objectives its a very tightly choreographed timeline to ensure we meet all the thermal constraints. We built a timeline for the short Class Mission and we can meet all our objectives. Because of the moon earth gravity interaction with the orbit we can state and a stable, takes very little to stay in orbit. Thats an advantage, we can get along mission, bring up the systems with a short class a long class it would be quite a lot longer than the first crewed flight which is targeted 1012 days or Something Like this. We are getting this long orbit when we can bring of the systems. And looking forward for artemis ii and beyond, the advantage of that orbit is that its always facing the earth. So you have something is always facing the earth and it will allow several different types of vehicle whether it be orion or the lander to rendezvous with the gateway and then go to the moon surface. [inaudible] dan shafer in huntsville. This is a followup for reid. You called 40 astronauts down to about ten want to fly on these first couple of crewed missions. How did you do that . We have deathly not done that. We have 40 to active astronauts and earlier this year some of you folks were here, we announced our latest class of asked the candidates with ten americans from across our country all walks of life to join our core and there in their initial training right now. When you graduate in about 18 months then they will come in to the 42 42 active astronauts h us. Right now we have not made any flight assignments. We have not gotten down who is going to do what missions at this point in time. We want to watch artemis i and there we want to make the right smart decision when we assigned to make and eventually three and beyond. Thank you so much, rose roseanne. Thank you so much for taking time for us. Two questions. The first is for reid. We know the apollo generation is watching this been so much today. Today. What is your message to those who worked on the Apollo Program and how their expertise contributed to what youre working on today . What i i would say to thems thank you. That apollo generation land achievement on the moon at a time were truly look back and think it was impossible. And then that technology, barry Johnson Space center we were sitting at now is a legacy of the apollo era. I dont think about that when i think about apollo. When i think about apollo i think about every kid i watched that landing and wanted to work in Mission Control the wanted to be an astronaut that want to be a doctor that wanted to be a schoolteacher, like the effect of what apollo did was not putting the alarms on buzz armstrong. It was there is nothing that motivates someone more than doing, that is what apollo did and that is what artemis is going to do. We are going out there and were going to do this, and that way you really energize everyone. My second question is more of a technical question. I see a lot of big Mission Objectives here testing, the guidance and navigation control, seeing how the orbital maneuvering system does, makig sure you nail the return power flyby. What is your margin of error especially considering some of these things have never been done to this capacity at all, what is your margin of error and what does success look like if not all of your objectives is met . . The margin of error is small but those trajectory correction maneuvers on talking about, they are going to ensure when we fly by the moon were at the right altitude and we dont run into it, and i talked about the burns. Burns. We assign a criticality to them. A noncritical burn is one if we didnt execute, no harm, no foul. We can pick it up, make it up later. Then we have mandatory burns where if you dont execute that burn then you lose a Mission Objective. A good example be the outbound power flyby. If we didnt do that and we would be able to get to do the dro mission get we will save the bring orion back but we wont be able to college all our Mission Objectives. The last category is the critical burn. Thats the return power flyby and thats what if we dont execute it and its a loss of the vehicle. So the margin of error is small but we have opportunity to make sure that we correct, make all the right corrections to make sure we target our flybys. So confident we will be able to execute the trajectories as necessary as long as a vehicle performed the way it is designed, we are going to get the mission accomplished. I would add to that this is a test flight. We were also finding where the margins are, right, finding where the conservatism in the analysis that we have previously done. So in many respects we are continuing to learn. So we will find where those margins are. Im cooper. Apollo had the camera on the moon and an curious to know does artemis have a camera . Action artemis has a lot of cameras. Debbie probably can talk better about the interim ones but on each wing we had a go pro that is wires come has a wireless link to the crew module and will be taking imagery a lot throughout the entire mission and will be transferring the imagery on the go pro camera down to come with camera controls and they will be bringing those down to the earth. Earth. Theres internal cameras also, i dont know the make up of those. I dont know the make. There are several cameras inside the crew module and actually does a Technology Demonstration payload, you can read about if you havent already. Its a collaboration with alexa and actions so youll have i came on board, you will be seen from the Vantage Point of the crewmen were sitting in a seat and purchase this can interact with that if you have a like set on you can ask questions, where is artemis today, where is orion today . There are cameras both externally so things performed away what are did that lock into place . Definitely helping the nation if we start seeing david a looks like an anomaly but then a whole bunch video inside as well for just see whats going on. [inaudible] good question. I wouldnt be able to give the answer day. Im sure gary can teach information whats happening on that. Danielle from the and the. People ask questions about members and the want to talk about the human aspect this is the very first time that we see an africanamerican, a woman going to the moon. Columbia being the flight director, astronauts from ecuador, from salvador, from puerto rico. How important was for nasa to send that message out there, that this was like driving into diversity and inclusion, all of you guys . Absolutely a priority. Its something we think about every day. This nation professionally im very excited and proud but also personally, i have three kids, two dollars and when i talk to them about were going to send a woman to the moon, like there hasnt been one . They go up and in the private what things are so much more diverse and inclusive. So absolutely to me from a professional but also from a very personal standpoint i think it is a huge, huge deal that weve made this a very big focus of this mission for both women and people of color. Absolutely. Our job at nasa is to do the things that are difficult and to do the things that are right and to motivate our base, which is our youth and right now our country is a diverse and extremely rich country and we want our Astronaut Corps to look, we want every kid in america to look at our poster and say oh, i see myself in that. I grew up poor, or i grew up in this state, or i grew up with this type of family. I can do that someday. And its really important for all of us to stand together as we go into this. The neatest part about getting to work at Johnson Space center is a team you get to work with everyday you get to work the stories you can tell, the flight director class we decide that is truly from all over our country and the world, it is amazingly rich place to work. Its reflected every year. Its the best Government Agency to work in and theres a reason for that because where progressive and we love what we do. Im going to go into the phone for a second or they have been very patient someone to give them an opportunity as well. Margaret marshall with a nighttime news, go ahead. Caller my name is appreciative guys having a sadr today. My question kind of is on the camera question, i was one how much Public Engagement will be for Live Streaming for orbit, pictures are worth 1000 words but they do us a much more. Will it be an emphasis on providing the public with live streams after the launch live stream on orbit, the initial live stream and like artemis i or even artemis ii . Thank you for taking our question. Ill try to answer that. If i heard correctly and if i didnt you can ask again when i finished but yes threat the mission will be having live stream imagery coming down but its in competition with all the data we need to get down as well. We are limited on her data range that will be transmitting information down from orion throughout the mission. Theres times will we go to a high resume what we can do imagery and then also maintain our telemetry. But for a lot of these events will also be recording the High Resolution imagery and then those would be downlink after the event. We have a priority list of how were going to bring files off of orion. Its going to take a matter time because theres a lot of dated we will be bringing down on a continuous basis. It will be somewhat after the event to get the real highres but the intent is that some streaming imagery during these events as well. Lets go to melissa real quick. She wants to add a little bit about what happens at the recovery stage for imagery. Go ahead. We have about 17 cameras all over the ship in helicopters, an open water. Several of those are connected to basically a satellite system with onboard that we will be able to stream near realtime live video back to johnson to be sent over nasa tv. You will be able to see recovery operations realtime. Very good. Lets also go to the phone, last one on the phone. Associated press. Yes, for reid us hoping you could provide details on what special traits or skills you are looking for for the first two crews, and will the first two crews come from the 18 artemis team astronauts announced the company back . Today using the indicating any of the 40 to active astronauts could be in the running at this point for artemis ii and three. Thanks so much. You bet. Ill start with the second half, which is the way i look at any one of our 42 active astronauts is eligible for Artemis Mission. We want to assemble the right team for this mission. As for what were looking for in these first few Artemis Missions, what i would say is really what our Astronaut Corps is as whole right now. First and foremost technical expertise, the ability to dive into literally any situation, any technical lead of the vehicle, to understand when things arent going quite right and understand when they are. That is absolutely number one. And then the on that it is are you a team player . Are you engaging . Can you work with our flight directors . That is exactly what our Astronaut Corps is today. We pride ourselves on longduration spaceflight scope six months so youre on the International Space station. We pride ourselves on we called expeditionary behavior, of being a good teammate, in thing in the trashcan when it is full, cleaning out the dishwasher when your parents ask you, those sorts of things and that is what were looking for in the first Artemis Missions. Technical expertise, team player and thats what we want. Very good. Lets go back to the room. German radio television, thank you for doing this. I wonder if since you made it clear that artemis i is about collecting as much data as possible, are there any moment or point threat the mission we are going to push the sls orion closer to the limit than you would normally do when humans are on board . Probably not to any extreme event. Most of our testing on the ground covers those extreme corners. When a talk about parachute testing, a lot of parachute testing, what happens when happens would try to catch the corners of the boxes through our ground testing. So i think we are looking, but we use that ground testing to build models analysis is going to perform across all environments. During the mission or captioning the data and say what environment it would really fly in and did the response, did the thermal and the pressures and the temperatures or the vibrations or what ever we are collecting, did it match the model predictions we are based on all of our test data . Thats why think we are. I think there probably are some operational things that we will be a little more aggressive about because we dont have a crew and the number one objective is to get the heat shield data. Lets go for tli which may be would have been the call if youre true onboard that that because that is our primary objective, absolutely we might take a little more i was a risk but a little more flexibility. I think thats a good point. We establish a philosophy in the planning stages that we would accept more risk. During the legal face, lowearth orbit phase, before we do the injection if orion sustained a failure that rendered it zero faulttolerant to say to recover and retrieve the capital, we are going to lean forward and pressed and execute the translator ejection just a we can achieve the numberone Mission Objective of getting that heatshield ladedah. We can pick up most of the other ones as well, can operate the vehicle and space. We will be able, melissa and her team can get onsite and recover it. Because what we will do is burn the injector and then select an early return to bring orion back quickly. We wont make it to the moon. We may do a lunar flyby depending on the nature of the failure at that is so we can get that number one priority objective and then safely get the vehicle back. On the sls side we dont have automatic aborts so well have automatic aborts for the crewed vehicle so they are all manual aborts so we are leaning forward in that aspect for this as well. One other item, melissa may want to jump in, after the reentry and splashdown, she mention they have up to two hours from a requirement standpoint to get the capsule in. I think not artemis i were doing, leaving leaving in one of two hours, we want to understand what is at thermal environment inside the capsule when we finally have crew in there and artemis ii, did we predict correctly . How long can they stay in suits and stay cool . In a case like that were pushing beyond what we expect on a mission just to click the data again to validate the design. Lets go ahead. Reuters. If remember correctly there will be two manikins that a female and two that are male on artemis i. I guess this is for debbie or reid. Is her difference between how astronauts respond to radiation on the capsule and if so how and what changes will you make to either the spacecraft environment or the spacesuit depending on the results . So i think, and im not there was one full manikin and there is these two called phantoms which are just torsos. One will be wearing a Radiation Protection best and what is not so kind of comparative. Radiation does affect women obviously different from men. I dont know if theres Something Different from the crew stamp what you want to mention that we are collecting the did you understand that a protection of the vehicle provide what we expected. We used to have, i will call after promoting vanegas said work in some radiation limits that were different from men and different for women and we worked very hard to her agency and we get some outstanding leadership at headquarters and we equalize all radiation limits. It doesnt matter whether youre a man or woman, it is the exact same. Our end goal is the United States of americas half man half women. Space should be at least that and so if we cannot make the spacecraft equitable and we cant fly any type of person on them, they when you do look at her system and reevaluate. From where we stand theres absolutely no difference. Last question. Scott johnson with spaceflight. I think the rollout is about 13 days away and then hopefully we have launch in about 24 days. Are there are currently in issues being worked on the vehicle and the vab that would affect either of those dates . I can speak from orion perspective. The answer is no. Were ready to go. The vehicles powered down today. Closing the hatches and a couple of days to prepare for rollout. When he gets out to the pad the hatches are open again for some other late load items, from orion template with minor nonconformances when the process the vehicle at kennedy but its things like touching up Little Things here or there. Nothing is holding a separate we just completed our preflight readiness review yesterday and successfully passed that so were good to go. I cant speak for the rocket. Im not aware of any issues on the rocket that theyre working this time. Will go to melissa. In the rollout and i can tell you that we at this time, not looking for the showstoppers i cannot give you Technical Details but working pretty good right now involving both of those dates. Excellent and i will wrap up our time for the questions and thank you all for summoning your questions into reverse for taking the time the detailed brief of this mission and you can follow more about the mission on artemis one and all these charts that you saw during todays briefing will be today Available Online we can point you in the direction if youre interested in thank you again for joining us that will wrap up television providers, giving you a front row seat to democracy. 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