Decisionmaking process and there is not a lot of in ffighting among your staff . Ms. Conway that is a great question. That usually falls to the chief of staff and that is going to be reince priebus. He funnels the information, access to the president , so there are not all these [audio interference] the press secretary always has a role in that traditionally in the white house. Weve been a small, Cohesive Team in the Trump Campaign in a way that we understand what it means to truly be in the foxhole so to be together. That team is going to going to the white house together now. We have an advantage because we do not come from ling bureaucracy when that we have to figure out how to break down o theions and funnel it int white house access. It is the way that we have operated all along. Fullein ave a hand in nneling that in way. I also expect the president operatell continue to them he does, taking advice and counsel from the people on that issue and and ultimately makes the decisions. Host for you personally, this is a move from new jersey to washington, d. C. What has it been like . In conway i lived washington, d. C. , for 20 years. Law schoolollege, had some of my greatest friendships in washington, d. C. I have never lived there is a certainlyfour and i never lived there as counsel to the president. It feels very different. I have all the responsibility and gravity of what this really means, and i also feel the tremendous bountiful blessings a place wherein i can leverage the opportunity to make an impact in peoples lives. It is really why i decided to go into the white house. Number one, i feel the ability to continue to serve President Donald Trump and Vice President pence. I also feel have a positive impact on peoples live. S. Like new york, but i find washington, d. C. , very green and clean and a bit warmer on a daytoday basis. It does not rain every monday. Everys tend to rain monday here, it feels like im excited for my children to have been new experience. The schools and washington, d. C. , are phenomenal. It is going to be a life change but in many ways not unlike the president himself host i read this the vote was not 100 among our kids. Ms. Conway i have a very strongminded, independent 12yearold daughter and her moxie is something to behold. Would perhaps12 like to finish the school year here, which will be an option for her. Her twin brother george, also told, has his bags packed and by the door. He will miss very much his friends and his schools and his life in new jersey and memories at the same time he knows that we are about to embark on a very special time in our family. s evolution. My two younger daughters, 8 and 7, they certainly have a safe in it. Mommy, you work so hard, you should choose where we are going to live. Vanessa is excited for her next adventure. Host you were raised by a single mom, your grandmother and two single aunts. What was that like . Ms. Conway it was like being raised by south jerseys version of the golden girls. Nobody had a politics conversation that i can recall. Isnt a civic duty . It was there constitutional right, and they voted. I tilted more democratic until Ronald Reagan was on the ballot. The way i was raised was very unique and very special in that i was raised to be a conservative without ever hearing the word. Entrepreneurial raised catholic. The pictures in our kitchen room ofre were, they werent Ronald Reagan and john kennedy, they were of the pope and the last supper. Something i do and second grade i am sure was hanging on the wall. Raised to be strong and independent and to look out for yourself with a certain grace and elegance and respect for other people. Me throughrried this Campaign Many times when it got really rough and tumble and people were very unkind. On social media, in my own party. Behind my back. And to my bosses, donald trump and mike pence, they were very mean to them. Been raised to feel that you have worth and value and you have choices and you are not a victim of your circumstance. And that nobody can make you feel badly about your without your permission. I was raised that way with these four women. That even if you fail, there are people who love you just for being you, that unconditional love. Ive always known it was a great gift to have this unusual upbringing by a single m oom, but it was a gift that served me very well as an adult and a very vaunted position during some tough times. Tot how will you apply that the white house, to your own role, to your decisionmaking process, to the backstabbing and to life in washington . Is it going to be a fishbowl . Ms. Conway i am sure washington is seen as a fishbowl. [indiscernible] share a few lessons from this campaign with my children. The sheer value of hard work and luck. I was in the right place at the right time for donald trump to elevate me to Campaign Manager and to be the highest ranking, nonfamily female in his west wing. That is the fruits of decades of hard work and sticking with it even when it may not have looked been it may not have lucrative at times. It may have been very difficult to turn and walk away. In a very male dominated industry, politics. Secondly, the sheer value of being kind to other people. In this come back to me campaign. People will stop me in airports, on the street, certainly and they will say, some combination of thank you so much for helping the campaign or thank you for helping save the country. Im happy for the country. Were happy for the country, it is a fresh start, new blood. It is turning the page, not just changing the tone in washington, it is changing the whole channel. We have a great opportunity. It is the sheer value of being kind to make up drivers, the uber drivers, the people part of my staff, and the people above me and remembering peoples names and their kids name. I am an imperfect person and a flawed professional certainly and a flawed boss. But if youre kind along the way, that is what people remember. They remember how you said it and how you delivered it. People will stop me and say, i did not vote for donald trump or i do not care for your administration, but i like the way you handled yourself. I thought you did a great job and you taught us a lesson about grays and poise and grace and frankly lady likeness. I will repeat it not allowing people to define who you are and what you value is in 140 characters or less or a bunch of emojis. There is such a temptation for all of us to be sucked into this ball of selfpity. Twitter is against your facebook is unkind or someone called you a name. So what . That is what i said to my small children. By saying it, it does not make it true. Did you say, my homework is done . You cannot say it and it become true. That has been a great lesson. Jarrett, 8 valerie years in the west wing, as top counsel to president barack obama. And she gave me that advice, also yourselfhave to steel and not worry what other people are saying when you are focused on serving the president of the United States and the people of this great country, and i agree with her. Host when did you first meet donald trump . Ms. Conway in the late 1990s. I grew up not far from Atlantic City. And Atlantic City, people forget, if you grew up 40 miles to Atlantic City and 20 miles to philadelphia, workingclass, bluecollar, high whenol educated area, donald trump and others built the casinos and tried to revitalize Atlantic City, it area. T a lot adjusted the my mother worked in a donald trump casino for 21 years. It is how she supported us. It has brought a lot of Economic Growth and vitality and certainly jobs and benefits to the area. I knew who he was firsthand. I probably met him sometime in the late 1990s, early 2000s. Him better once i sat on the condo board of the trump tower 10 or 11 years ago. I showed up at a condo Board Meeting one night and in walks donald trump and i thought, he comes to condo Board Meetings . I should have realized a long time ago that donald trump is going to be very involved in anything that bears his name. On tv talking about politics and he knew that i did polling. He was fascinated with the polls. And and we would talk about politics and public policy. Donald trump thought about running for president in 2012, people know. We did some pulling for him in 2011. And we talked about president ial politics then. People urged him to run for governor in 2014. I attended a meeting and trump tower, january 9, 2014. I remember it well. And the conversation was people, coming from all over the state to ask him to run for governor. He had already thought about running for president. Every Great Movement needs a transformative individual to help them bring other people along who otherwise have lost faith in the movement, asnt have part of it, or sort of a a just disenchanted, unenthusiastic member the british monarchy has princess kate and prince william. People look to the british monarchy as out of touch none of which i thought were fair. This young you have, couple with the young family and its a new face on the british monarchy. The Catholic Church, my Catholic Church, has benefited in large degree by pope francis, the people spoke. Peoples pope. He is a transformative figure for the Catholic Church prefer many people who are lapsed catholics or lost faith in the church or not been involved, or who were from a different relation and now believe because of pope francis. We need a transformative figure to take us away from the dangerous veering towards elitism where my party is going, where the autopsy called for things that were so outside of where the base of the party, where the voters really were. Somebody with a message that people spoke to them relevant to them, the forgotten man and woman. And donald trump has transformed himself into one that values and the worker. And that is liberating. Host how do you make sure he does not lose his way, that he can become that transformative president . Is my belief that donald trump will be a transformative president. He will have a positive impact on americans almost immediately. Ais is a guy we havd preview of that in the transition. Two monthselection ago. Since then, it has been a flurry of activity, deliberations and decisions. But that are truly incredibly. In that way, i see someone who is very loyal and very focused and engaged, very serious to learn more. He knows an awful lot already. I think that is how you dont lose way. Go back to hisou motivator and running for president of the United States different from the usual motivators for many people in politics. Power and prestige and money and status and access. He had all of that. His family had all of that. He has sacrificed a great deal of all of that to serve as president of the United States. What inspires him and motivates him from the beginning in my view will serve him very well as he takes on the role to be steadfast and loyal and to perform at the level, the high octane level he has promised. Host couple more questions before you let you go. I understand you are pretty good blueberry picker . Ms. Conway packer. A pint of rubber bands 12 times per crate. I was the fastest they had ever seen. Im the World Champion blueberry packer. At the age of 12, we got paid by the piece. It is called piecework. The faster you were, the more money would make that summer. I had devised the whole system. I would not move for hours. I would keep doing that. That job was outsourced to machines. Maybe it will come back in the donald trump administration. I hear an awful lot about teamwork and camaraderie, performance, delivery, quality, on that Blueberry Farm because there was at 12, i worked there from when i was 2 to 19 in the summers. I definitely learned the value of a dollar and the value of a hard days work. At the same time, working as a but alsoing producing quality and being accountable for your results, being punctual. I thought it was being on to bring a real. Being on different oil. Entereprenueurial. Organization, people who grew up bringing it to the next level. The grand marshal of the Christmas Parade in my hometown. There were 6000 people there, 10 protesters. They got a lot of preparade an gst, there were not many of them. It is the Blueberry Capital of the world. I thought how special it is to have grown up in a town like that what people would stick up for each other and pull together and are a god fearing loving population. Much of it i learned on a Blueberry Farm. Host also, you describe yourself as a recovering lawyer. Ms. Conway fully recovered. Ive always felt one [indiscernible] it benefited me tremendously because it teaches you to think in a linear fashion. I found as a businesswoman, not a Campaign Manager, and ensure that i will find this that there is plenty of room for passion. Very little room for emotion. If you can approach problems and opportunities passionately and not so emotionally, you do very well for yourself and business. People respect that and they respond to that. Its how wonderful decisions are executed. Teaches you how to negotiate. I remember a long time ago i tell the story, a speech at the speak together, my business was a year old. The man on the other end said it represent an agency, what is your speaking . I said to him in response, i was going to undercut my value. Instead of struggling and saying, it is a privilege to give a great speech, no problem. I sidley said i will have what he is having which is a line from when harry met sally that worked out well. The same speech, the same questions of answers. Ill have what he is having. It is the most diet ever been paid for a speech by any magnitude 20 years ago. Ever since then, i thought when in doubt, say i would like to be treated as him. While, say i would like to be treated the same way you are treating him. It dairy ladylike and more often than not you get your way. Trumpjanuary 20, donald will be sworn in as our 45th president on the west part of the capital. What is his message to america, what will he say . Ms. Conway Donald Trumps message to america is that i am the president for all americans, that i believe in each of you. And even those who did not support me and those who refuse to accept me. I will be sure to work for you, and i hope you will give me a chance. Hell appeal to our better angels, to our higher purpose, to the fact that what has brought us together as americans for decades if not centuries has bound us together as american. And this is a man that has been talking to some of us about past inaugural addresses. He appreciates those of president lincoln, president kennedy, for example, but i think he also appreciates those times and those men and how the man match the moment. But he also theres something to that. Something to addressing the nation and not going on and on for a very long time. And then having a shorter parade, a shorter celebration and getting down to business. That one of his ancillary messages is happy 50th birthday, kellyanne conway. Host kellyanne conway, thank you for your time. Ms. Conway thank you very much. Cspan also talked with sean spicer, the Incoming White House press secretary, about his new job and the challenges of smmunicating trump message in an age of social media and a 24 hour news cycle. This is a most 25 minutes. Host sean spicer, Incoming White House press secretary, how are you preparing to go behind the podium and take on this job . Mr. Spicer it is an ongoing process. A daily callerg 10 30 every day, which we hide behind a phone when you do it. Part of it is getting used to taking the questions, the range. Re fomr roma a wide one of the things my predecessors have suggested is to sit down at a podium and pretend reporters ask you real questions to try to make sure you understand the depth and breadth of what will come your way on a daily basis. But its making sure you get up to speed on some hot button issues. Sit down with some of the key players who will be playing key roles in the administration to develop those relationships to get a better understanding of the issues and also, getting used to the rhythm of taking the incoming questions in the way they do at the podium. Host you talk to josh earnest. Any advice, anything you took away from that conversation and also touring his office and the west wing . Ms. Conway josh and the Communications Director were generous with their time and counsel. They shared with me some of the challenges they face, and some of the ideas they had. And a lot of it was just me asking questions about procedurally what they have found works better than others in terms of timing, preparation, things like that. Its been 8 years since ive been in the white house. And so, it was an opportunity to really reacquaint myself with the size and scope of the offices, how people really sick in t sit in different areas t that deal with the press. That was dairyhe helpful. Very helpful. Beyond josh and jenn, whether it is robert gibbs, jay carney, even marlon fitzwater, everybody who has held this job has reached out and offered te heir advice and counsel. It is a pretty halloween experience when you realize that you are in a club of 30 people who held this position. The biggest change from eight years ago, social media. Twitter, instagram, facebook. How does that add to the challenge for you trying to communicate a message . I look at is it opportunity, not a challenge. When the Bush Administration left in 2009, there was no p otus. There was no facebook page, no instagram. I think we go in both with the government assets that exist but obviously Donald Trumps own twitter handle and facebook and instagram, 50 Million People following, 19 million on twitter. That is a prepowerful pool. That is why i said it is an opportunity. It is one thing just to be able to tweak the power in the movement he represents is a tool that nobody has ever had before to be able to reach people and such unique way. Host having spent time of the white house, you know how close the quarters are. How is that going to affect your interaction with west wing staffers . Mr. Spicer here at trump tower, it is a pretty, you know, closeknit group. Everyone knows each other really well, works side by side. I think that hemisphere will continue in the west wing. Host you grew up in rhode island. Do you remember when you first got interested in politics . Ms. Conwaymr. Spicer yes. My still there, phenomenal guy. Really inspired a lot of students. Some have gone on tod do really important things, to understand the awesomeness of politics, the backandforth of ideas. Ive toiled in college putting up signs, in high school and then it went to college, my sophomore year i really got started taking classes in getting involved. I volunteered on congressional races at the time. My junior year, i volunteered at the state legislature. It was that kind of four or five years that i got an interest in politics beyond the theory and went into the practice by getting out in the field and helping out. Host i want to go back to that high school teacher. What was it about . Mr. Spicer it is not the materiit