driven, serious write down the middle, honest person, extremely well-regarded, the quality of his work, he was always truthful with the president, and he was very clear with the president on election night that he did not think it was a good idea to announce a victory, that it was too early to make any determination, and that the wise course would be to advise the public that they had campaigns, and let's wait to see what happen. the president did not take that advice, but that was the advice he was given. >> i understand he is representing a number of candidates, some of whom have been pushing that election live. do you think that could be a conflict of interest, or is he advising those candidates for seeking congressional office, that that's maybe not the route to take? likes -- >> the way he conducts himself is by following the members and being truthful and accurate about where they are. he has been very clear about his view as to what happened in the 2020 election and you can rest assured that he didn't advise anyone to suggest anything to the contrary. >> boy or girl? likes boy. >> congratulations. >> mr. chairman, mr. chairman.

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