Good morning and welcome to Washington Post live. I am thrilled to be joined this morning by jared isaacman, the founder and ceo who is also an astronaut and flew in the space capsule in orbit and what was the first all private nonshould not mission to space. Since then he has commissioned three more flights from spacex and is going back to what he calls the flare up program which seeks to open up a new commercial program in outer space. So good to have you here. Thanks for having become a christian. Thanks our audience for joining us. You can tweak your questions and we will try to get to is many of them as possible. Jared, i wanted to ask you, you went to space last year for the mission. We thought that was going to be a one off and how can you top that. It was a lot of news when you decided you were going to go back to school you were going to go back to space. We want to talk a little bit about this first of the Polaris Missions launched in march is different from what you did last year. Guest really good question. I didnt think i was going back up. Inspiration, i think we accomplished every objective we set out to achieve. Our goal was to show it could be done. Since the first time we are sending nongovernment astronauts into orbit for three days. Trying to maximize our time. We went farther than the International Space station. To a milestone. Schism moon and mars. First pediatric cancer survivor to go into space and we raised over 200 million we raise over 250 million for saint jude cancer research. We have been working really hard to build the exciting world we want to live in tomorrow without a woodlock without ignoring the responsibilities of today. We did get it all right. This is an example of all of those Exciting Missions to follow. The Polaris Program picks up where we left off. We are still raising a lot of money for saint Jude Childrens Research hospital. We got 250 million before. That is not enough. A big believer in giving to st. Judes mission is no child should die. We want to go on to those Exciting Missions to follow. With the Polaris Mission, it is doing things either never having been done before or in 50 years. The idea to build upon these things to continue to open up a space for others to get back to moon and mars and beyond. We will go set a new earth orbit. In doing so, we are at that altitude being exposed to radiation. That can inform Vehicle Design operation. Radiation exposure we expect will be common. It will inform about 40 different science and research experiments. It is first commercial spacewalk. A design and new operations, when we get back to the moan and get tomorrow sunday, you envision a potential colony on mars at some point. We need a lot of spaceships. They cannot cost hundreds of millions of dollars. We need to massproduce and do work on the surfaces of that planet or even in space on the way. The third objective is we are going to communicate over starling. It will be imperative for sending messages back home from mars and to utilize the moan as well. 40 different science and research experiments. Host starling is a sex internet and satellitebased communication system. These are really ambitious programs going to space. One of the things i noticed is how seriously you take that. I wonder if you can talk a little bit of the pace of that. Your training is really rigorous. I am wondering if you can walk me through how you prepare yourself and your crew to get through these missions. Guest we do take this very seriously. We are working towards a world where we can potentially open up space to everyone. The last mission was polaris, the Third Mission is starship. We take 100 people per starship up into orbit. Eventually moan and mars. Everything we accomplished right now ultimately supports human space life. That is why we want to push the boundaries now. We are opening up space with Reusable Rocket Technology. It is going to be a total game changer. For us to learn things now exclusive to government superpowers going farther than the International Space station will inform things. It was the same way for inspiration. If that went wrong, they told they couldnt be done. It shouldnt be like that. Space should be opened up for everyone. There is a lot to accomplish. We have got to get it right was polaris. We are training a lot. The timeline is about six months. Looking at about eight to nine months. Tva training is a big part of it. We are doing scuba dive training. Events Defense Systems we are working with. A very fast environment where things happen quickly. It is a dynamic environment where you have to make decisions quickly and there are consequences. You dont have that in simulator. The resource management, radio work, we can do alliance operation. It is a high consequence environment. We do mountain climbing for teambuilding. A lot of these things we draw on the 60 years of human space Life Experience from nasa. We spend a lot of time in the simulator as well. Host that sounds great flying with you. What strikes me is how you are building upon inspiration. You do the spacewalk. You didnt know what the second flight was going to be. Nasa space x recently announced they are going to study having a commercial crew. Guest the first Polaris Mission and the second mission, we are going to learn a lot from now until then. If you think about it, we are doing an eva on this mission. We need to do an eva on any information using game prior to working on a National Treasure and making one of the most important scientific instruments of all time is beneficial. We have been building in this direction. Dragon is a spacecraft. Predominantly the Mission Inspiration you can unlock. You talk about nearly three times if we can do that and maybe put some enhancements, youre talking about this great scientific instrument that helps us look back into the history of the universe. Now the james Webb Telescope has even more to offer science. If we can do that for 20 or more years, that is a great gift to the Scientific Community all around the world. The efforts with polaris objective, missions should. Host on twitter the other day, somebody said something to the effect of the hubble Whose Mission there are going to be recessional astronauts accompanying you. Your response was interesting. You said maybe, maybe not. You said the focus should be on whether commercial spacex can complete this mission and not the color of the persons uniform completing it. I wonder if you can elaborate on that a little more. Guest this is certainly a different time in space travel. They could observe a lot of other purposes. Ultimately trying to bring down the cost of orbit. This is awesome. This is such a great thing for keeping a competitive environment. But in doing so creates a National Community where the only people that are going to be able to operate in space, are they going to be the blue suit astronauts . They are amazing. We are truly standing on the shoulders of giants to get to this point. But it wont stand commercial nationals forever. People drawing too much on the past are not really in the present right now. The present is what we potentially have the means available to us to say an important scientific instrument raises altitude and increases science in the future. It comes at little to no cost for the taxpayers and private space, commercial space funding. It is missing the point who is the more capable human being. The reward substantially outweighs the risk. I dont mind any personal shots. I know i put myself out there and it is part of the game. I am an incredible crew for inspiration for. We have got to see your spacex engineers. Overseas, all of Mission Control , i have the spacex lead train every nasa crew gone into orbit today. Their capabilities based on the black versus the blue, we are missing the point. That is a touchdown for scientists all over the world. Host a followup on that, have you given any thought as to who would accomplish who would accompany you on the Hubble Mission . If you are not able to do the Hubble Mission and nasa comes back and says this should be done robotically or shouldnt be done at all, what would your second flight be, how you will push the envelope with that second flight . Jared for me, the name of the program is not the appropriate time. We have got to execute really well. Or there will not be a second Polaris Mission. That is the focus now. There is studies going on. A proven vehicle like dragon for servicing other missions, hubble is awesome. It lets let them do their thing and get their study going. I think that is the end game. Host you talked a lot about the broader scope and context of all of this. The commercial sector. You come from the business world. I am wondering can you talk a little about will there be a sustaining economy . At what point do we get to that point where there is a sustained economy and people are doing more frequently the kinds of things youre doing right now . Guest it is so incredible to think about. I am 100 percent convinced, i cannot point to you in any one, specific direction right now because it is so early. For 60 years in human space life history, the first time that you didnt have a world superpower present in orbit was here with inspiration for going up. That was the first step. Slightly more affordable you can open up space to commercial industry. You have a lot of competition right now. That is going to progress into Something Like starship. When you are able to lower the cost, anything is possible. The best analogy i can make to this, it was on wall street they had their car phone, it looks super obnoxious driving on the road, and now you have 13 euros all over the world, how many billiondollar businesses right now, hundred billion dollar businesses that were created predominantly on mobile app mobile applications that nobody could imagine in the 90s when you had car falls. Think of all the good it has done. You have really humanity are you in price that you have real humanitarian crisis, natural disasters where people are tapping on these things on their phone, it is bringing help, it is bringing intention. Probably saving lives, certainly saving lives. Wherever we are today is just the very beginning. The very beginning of the second space age right now. Where we go 5, 10 to 15 years from now, Technology Like starship comes online, it is hard to predict. But it will be something. Theres too much going on to understand out there. We have really just begun in space. We have just touched our towing in the water of some many times the size of the ocean. It is incredible when you think about it. Host lets talk about starship for a minute. I want to make sure our audience understands what starship is. We have spec six flying in the dragons, and private citizens like you in orbit or the International Space station. Starship is this nextgeneration mark makes generation rocket that elon musk has been working on for quite a while. Fully reusable. And nasa has invested in. Awarded a contract to you starship to land its astronauts on the moon. And jared, you are going to be on the first human space life mission on starship, which is amazing to think. In some ways, maybe not so much. Can you talk a little bit about how that came about . Guest to help explain it a little bit, starship is bigger and has twice as much and will only get better as the saturn five rocket that landed human beings on the market landed human beings on the moon 50 years ago. Think about the giant saturn five that we have all probably seen the pictures and videos of, to ultimately put to human beings on the moan. That entire rocket, there wasnt a component of it that was reused for any subsequent mission. Now you are talking about something that is much larger, it has twice as much and the whole thing is reusable. The entire thing. Instead of putting potentially two people on the moon, the capacity of this thing could be upwards of 100 people. The actual nose motion, the starship, has more in it than the entire space station we have been building over the last 20 years. If you look at modern technology , the first goes in lands. It makes a one to two journey back to port and potentially to be launched again. The second stage is further out in the atmosphere after it has delivered its payload or driving capsule and the driving capsule will come back and after a couple of months it can be refurbished and flown again. You compare that starship where the first booster goes up and it immediately comes back and land on the launchpad. It doesnt have a multi week transition from refurbishment. Starship comes and right to the launchpad or somewhere else. These cuts back on the time in terms of mass to orbit. That is fundamentally how we are going to bring costs down. It is also what is going to push human beings back in the form of hos. It is certainly going to be the vehicle that will take humans to the first time to a planet, which could be mars. Host what do you think the biggest areas of growth are going to be when we have starship . Is it satellite we were talking about question mark is it expiration, what interests you . Guest the potential there is potential it can do all of the above. You think about the dark mission recently. The space vehicle that essentially crashed into an asteroid to learn from a potential defense mechanism. Then i think about, what if you add 500 starship. It is building in texas and florida to massproduce these things. You wouldnt have to spend a Million Dollars to build a one off anything. A oneoff telescope, a oneoff spaceship design, you can put the telescope in the starship. You can put a system into the starship to impact an incoming asteroid. It is almost like a lowcost, highly reusable structure that can do almost anything in orbit. You want to put out 100 potential cube satellites to build a consolation that does something, makes art a better place, you totally can do it. You already have that now with star link. Over 3000 satellites in lower orbit ringing connectivity to communities all over the world. You can run across rain forests and deserts. When you connect the world, think of how many problems you can solve. It is a very part it is an important part of the Polaris Program. The Childhood Cancer survival rate in the u. S. Has gone up threefold since 60 years ago. The number one factor in Childhood Cancer survival rate. With star link, you can connect some of these really remote places, youre going to find a family didnt even know needed the help of saint jude in telematics in telemedicine. You can raise the survival rate around the world. That is the start, education. It is only achievable with rapid, Reusable Rocket Technology that brings costs down. Now multiply that times 101 starship comes online. The world is going to be a better place. You cant point your finger on exactly which place it will be. Host now, space is cool again. Spacex is doing its thing, golden glad to now youre seeing all this investment money pulling into the space sector which was considered, not that long ago, a very risky sector. I wonder what you make of that. All these companies, all these startups that are popping up. How many do you think are actually going to make it . And is there a market to support all of this . Guest there is a lot of things to address there. One, space is cool again for some people. There is a very passionate part of the community that overlooked the benefits that space can give us. It overlooks the fact that a lot of what we know about Climate Change and natural disasters comes from access we have in space. A lot of the reasons we are able to avoid conflict in the world is based on information we can gather from space and information we can transfer from it. There is densely a portion of the population that believes we have to stop the world from burning today and any bit of time or energy or resources in space comes at the consequence of rain forest being destroyed or other horrific circumstances. More people will look at it, you could do both. You always have to strive for progress. We have the resources and means to address some of the problems we have here today. Space is cool for some. I wish it was more for others. We could look at the argument on both sides. We have got that problem through a number of issues in society. The money in the space industry, we have come off a encourage risktaking. A lot of industries were formed, and challenging times would never have been able to survive. You have a lot of businesses that are going to solve problems that organizations can do at an affordable rate and they are losing a lot of money on the way. That is not to say that the world will jump they have been smart on allocation, they bought other businesses, i think they will succeed. A lot of those problems will go away. In other industries, youre going to see a lot of business failures. Interest rates are essentially going through the roof. In that environment, you have to pick your battles. From an investors respect, it is very calm right now. Host a prediction question, often i get asked this question. People think, what are you you what do you think will happen in space . 10 years out, what is realistic, what is feasible from your point of view . Guest you wont be measuring the month you wont be measuring the number of people in orbit at one time in single digits. Hundreds, if not thousands of people. And probably lunar orbit within 10 years. I dont know if people appreciate, if you can get to the moon, which we will certainly do, starship is differently capable of doing it, the amount of velocity to get to mars is negligible. Six to nine months, it is about a means of getting home. My prediction, you have got hundreds, if not a thousand or so people in orbit in 10 years. You have people Walking Around on mars. I think spacex will be the leading organization in making it possible and starship is the vehicle of doing. That will give me and my fellow space reporters to write about. That is all the time we have. 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