2009. Served since the Cook Political Report lists the race is a tossup. The debate is courtesy of abc seven. Presents voteews 2014, debate in the race for governor. Welcome to the debate. Our candidates are governor pat quinn and mr. Bruce rauner. Candidates, abc seven political analysts laura washington. You will be limited to 60 seconds for each question and 30 seconds for each followup. You will have the opportunity to other. Question of each you will also have the opportunity for an Opening Statement and by random draw to the Opening Statement goes to mr. Quinn. Thank you. The bureau of labor statistics issued its latest report on the illinois economy. It is a good report. Jobs are up, unemployment is last twos in the months, 40,000 jobs. 300 thousand jobs since the last recession. The steepest decline of the the steepest decline of any state in the union. We have understood the importance of fiscal reform. I have to suspend the pay of the legislatures to get those reform. Better. Omy is a lot we have been able to invest in education. Inhave invested 440 million classroom education. It is the best way to keep our economy moving forward and jobs growing. That is what i believe in and that is what the best way to go forward is for illinois. Thank you to the league of women voters, eyewitness seven, and univision. I look forward to going to work for the people of illinois. I love illinois and what illinois to be the greatest state in the greatest nation on earth. Build worked hard to hundreds of successful businesses on behalf of teachers and their pensions, and the success we have driven in that. We have donated tens of millions of dollars to Public Schools, to Early Childhood education, to veterans to support them. Im running for governor as my opportunity to give back with my time and passion. We are going to get the state run right. I am financially independent. I can stand up to special interest groups. Im not even going to take a salary or pension. Andwith the shakeup that get the government running right. I would like to begin with something i am hopeful will set the tone for the debate. A question about the last debate. I would like to quickly ask you, in the last debate, the proposals make the temporary tax increase permanent after the next election. If bruce rauner is elected, would you fill still attack to still make that permanent . The budget called for the income tax rates to be i maintain committed have public safety. Im in favor of making sure we maintain our income tax level. And provide solid Property Tax Relief every year to every homeowner in the state. That is what i proposed in my budget. Budget we cannot have a that slashes are education, as my opponent suggests, by 4 billion, laying out one out of six teachers during that is the wrong way to go. We have to invest in education and properly pay for it. My opponent has been going around illinois telling tall tales about the budget. We have to pay our bills, invest in education, and the best way is with the income tax based on ability to pay. You,e other question to mr. Quinn asked about a threat you made to a female employee. You are quoted as saying i will bury her, bankrupt her with legal fees. You said it was a disgruntled employee and pointed out the judge ruled in your favor on most of the aspects of that lawsuit. I didnt hear your answer about whether you said those things. I was clear. I did not ever say those things. That was false accusations and a frivolous Lawsuit Dismissed in court by a judge. There is no truth to that. Unfortunately that story came out in the media encouraged by s staff so they could run another false attack ad. I have been subject of vicious attacks not based upon facts, but distortions. The subjects of these false attacks, im going to shake up the system. Pat quinn will do anything to hold power. He will resort to any distortion or exaggeration. Im not to change the system. I cant be bought, bribed, or intimidated. It is hard to deal with these distortions but home is worth fighting for. That is why i am running. Good evening. In this campaign, according to the illinois board of elections, in 2014 your campaigns combined have amounted to 35 million in advertising. Are we have seen, they negative attacks of each other on your previous work, moral character, and at this point in time many voters are actually wondering why either of you are qualified to run the state . How can you change that perception . I have been a leader my whole life. Builder. En a business i have worked hard to give back with the community. We need success in springfield. Im not running for office because i need a job. Im not looking for a political career. Im doing this because i love illinois. We have the greatest state in america. The best location. We are the worst run stay in america. Jobs are leaving. Companies are leaving. The latest survey has 50 of families in illinois thinking they should leave the state. We are the worst run stay in america. We deserve better. I can change the system. Im independent. I have been a driver of results my whole life. I know how to grow the economy. My opponent does not know anything about business. I will grow the economy and create jobs. I will cut taxes. Ford knows a lot about business and i worked with for to create lots of jobs here in illinois. The same way with chrysler and many companies. My opponent doesnt understand facts. The illinois economy is growing. We have more work to do. We have worked with ford to take the company that had one chip one shift, they now have three ships. That is getting the job done. My opponent talks about being a business builder he is the person who built a business teaching other businesses to outsource jobs to foreign lands. That is not building jobs in illinois. My opponent is a job eliminate or. Im a job creator. The record shows for that. My opponent has made a fortune out of the misfortune of many other people. It is important to record shows that. My ads are positive we talk about what we have done with ford and workers across illinois. A followup . Can you give a specific example of Successful Companies owned by you that have created jobs . And how you are going to use that experience to attract businesses into the state and create jobs. We have built one of the most respected, Successful Companies in america at my firm. Helped create successful businesses. 20 annual returns for teachers retirement. Pat quinn is a miserable failure on jobs. Illinois is one of the lowest job grading states. We have lost 48,000 manufacturing jobs during his tenure. We have lost 2500 jobs just last month here in illinois. Look at thee a record. Those are the facts. 12 businesses go bankrupt. Had 12pponent has businesses go bankrupt under his command. That is not a Good Business record. If that is it for the people of the one no thank you. We dont need that at all. We need to have a governor who understands everyday people, the need to invest in education and skills and training. Question if the Illinois Supreme Court should strike down the pension reform bill passed last year as many credible, legal experts predict, what is your plan to resolve the growing pension debt . I have heard you say you dont take an aspirin until you get a headache but the voters of this state want and need to know what will you do if the court says the headache never went away. Like my father taught me never taking an aspirin before you get a headache. Law islieve the constitutional. It is a bipartisan measure. My opponent tried to sabotage it. Work againd do is with the members of the legislature, both parties on a plan that the Supreme Court outlines is constitutional. That is what you do when you build a majority. My opponent wanted me to veto that bill and i signed it because it was the right thing to do. We passed a bill to make sure that we protect pregnant women on the workplace. They are being discriminated against. I signed it into law. Any time there is a need to get a law passed i know how to work. I have a record. My opponent demonizes legislators and public employees, Public Health workers. That isnt a way to get anything done. Elected . Ou do if should the courts say it is unconstitutional . Pension issues is one of the Biggest Challenges we have faced as a state. He dumped it in the lap of the assembly. I believe the Pension Changes made are unconstitutional. I oppose them. I do not believe it is fair to reduce the pension benefits for people who are already retired and i do not believe it is fair to reduce benefits of hardworking folks. The right answer is to create a second pension plan for future privatized ast quinn has tried to spend. It is more affordable. It will allow our economy to grow. He is desperate to bring up social issues because he cant run on financial issues. He has failed on what matters. To eric is followup question. You didnt give us a company where you created any jobs. I would encourage you to go to the website for my old firm. There are hundreds of companies there. You dont remember. There are so many. We couldnt have been the most successful Investment Company, among the top performers. We are one of the Top Investment generating great returns. There are hundreds of companies with great performance. His company laid off 1100 workers and gave a huge bonus to an executive who was running the , and give gift cards to the laid off workers. He has a record of laying off anders, outsourcing jobs, running around illinois 22 cut the minimum wage. This is not the way to treat people. He has no record of doing the right thing when it comes to jobs. Since you didnt specifically answer that last question about how many jobs you have created im going to try another one. You said you will increase education spending. How much do you increase spending by in the next budget, and where will those support come from . This is the most important topic we can discuss. Theation is the key to american dream. Over 25 proven record years of being an education reformer and advocate. I have donated tens of millions of dollars to improve Public Education. Teachers. R i have been dedicated to education. We have a 36 billion state budget. There is money the budget for education if leaders make education the priority. Pat quinn has been a disaster. It has been nowhere on his agenda. Education into cap funding by half 1 billion. I will increase it by half 1 billion. Billion dollars. Money cannot buy facts. We have increased classroom spending every a. Every fact checker has said that. My opponent would cut it by 4 billion laying off one out of every six teachers. He has demonized teachers. I believe in teachers. It is important we invest in education. Would give the biggest investment in Early Childhood education in the history of illinois and increase scholarships for students to go to college. My opponent would wreck that. He has a plan that will give whilef 1 million tax cut slashing the education but it budget. So he and his millionaire friends can get tax cut. Im against giving tax cut to the wealthy. Theou say you will increase by by half 1 billion half a billion dollars. Where will you cut . Cutting wasteful spending and having a growing economy. Massive wasteful spending. Experts of estimated illinois taxpayers pay half a billion dollars in taxes. Have rampant corruption under pat quinn. We do not have a growing economy. I will get our economy growing. I want to pay our bills and make sure we are true to our kids. Publics investing in health. My opponent would have savaged cut across the board and public safety, Public Health, and schools. I have the kurdish to tell people what they i have the courage to tell people what they need to know. Thank you. Should, pensions. Next question is pensions. Businesses do use, what is wrong with that . I dont think a 401 k plan is the way to go in illinois. The best way is to reform the system we have. That is what i got done. If we had a liability that i did not create, although as governor every day i have paid the proper amount into the pension system. That is why we had the liability. We enacted reforms in a bipartisan way. My opponent was trying to hurt that. We dont go forward and make illinois a better state. I believe it is constitutional. The bottom line is you have to take on hard things on behalf of the common good. My opponent is about easy street. He wants to get himself a tax cut and hurt our children and workers all across illinois. I do not think that is the way to have a better state. I think the minimum wage is a good way to help hardworking people live from paycheck to paycheck. Have a massive economic failure in illinois. Governor quinn is running on debt scare tactics. I will increase Education Funding. He is saying up things he is saying false things and making up numbers. His only answers to raise more taxes. He wants to take away another paycheck out of every working family. That is what his tax hike does. Illinoisot their great. Lready overpays durin real estate has gone up 30 . Taxes. Y answer is more that is not the right answer. Pat quinn has been governor for six years. He and mike madigan have controlled the system and failed. We need to go in a another direction. I will get that job done. 6the state treasurer has billion in unpaid bills. That means social Service Agencies and hospitals, and not profits not only dont get paid, they have to borrow the money, and lay people off. That is embarrassing. Our state has made progress at paying the bills. We have paid down the bills. A 30 dayare closer to cycle, which is what most businesses do. We have more work to do. If we adopt the plan of my opponent we will go back to where we were. We have been able to pay down those bills to Service Agencies. Keep in mind my opponent says he doesnt want the income tax. , a taxs the bruce rauner on services of everyday people cross illinois, including trash collection. Pat quinn has failed. He keeps making up stories, false attacks. He cant run on the truth. Here is a fact. We are losing jobs. Taxes are crushing our economy. Yes taken away one weeks paycheck. We are at the bottom of Economic Growth. We have lost 48,000 manufacturing jobs. We are of the lowest job creation states in america. All he criticizes is my success, which i am proud of. On rights your opinion to work laws as they apply in other states, and would illinois be better off as a right to work state . By science it could be a local control issue. I am not advocating for that. That is not a priority. There are other priorities. Bringing down tax on corporations and growing our economy. Pat quinn has been a disaster on job creation. Hisas taken the time, answer is im a millionaire and i am bad. You dont judge a persons heart by the size of the wallet. The roosevelt family was very rich. The Kennedy Family was very rich. He criticizes me for being a selfmade guy. I didnt inherit a nickel. I made my way through school and work hard, build a lot of Successful Companies, make great money for the teachers and Police Officers of illinois. My wife and i have given back tremendously. We love chicago and the state of illinois. We have got to have success down and sprinkled. Look at his business record. He advocated the elimination of the minimum wage. ,eople who work very hard making 8. 25 an hour. Aluminumto cut their minimum wage. It is not right that my opponent started a company to show other companies have to outsourced jobs. Thousands offf people, giving them little or nothing. I dont think that is a way to grow the economy. Are clear. Illinois jobs are out. Thousand jobs created in two months. Those are good jobs to be a decent wage. Instead of trying to cut the minimum wage you ought to try and keep illinois people working. The question was about right to work laws. You said you favored right to work zones. What is that . They are opportunity zones is what i call them. We have brutally high unemployment. A website that called them that earlier this year. I believe in creating opportunity zones. Governor quinn has led huge unemployment problems in so many communities. Unions would not have any power, jurisdiction . We create areas where the taxes are extremely low and the business regulations are extremely so we can grow jobs there. We have brutally high and a plum in africanamerican communities of 30 . Pat quinn has failed. Likes could you address . My opponent wants to bust unions and harm the ability to have a decent wage, these conditions, benefits. These are code words. When he says less regulation, billionaires like him can grow their own bank account at the expense of everyday people. Toelieve in the right organize a union, be in a union. My opponent demonizing teachers, one of the most important vocations on the planet. On the subject of wages, your opponent in the last debate made a point about the minimum wage which you have been pushing for, and he said he wondered why you hadnt done anything about being a minimum wage passing in springfield. You have been governor for a long time. Why havent you taken action . I have worked on raising the minimum wage on many vocations. Occasions. Way we passed the citizen utility board, we put on the ballot. People voted for it. They convince legislators this is the right way to go. Were going to raise the minimum wage. We have people with a chance to vote at the ballot box on an important economic issue. Is advocating the elimination of the minimum wage. He wants to cut the minimum wage on people doing the hardest job in society. I know how to build a majority we are going to get it done. I raise the value of the income tax credit, tax relief for working families. We did that by building a majority. There is a principle as old as the bible. If you are working hard, you shouldnt have to live in poverty. When obama was here last night he said raise the wage and i agree with him. Pat quinn has been a failure on the minimum wage. He has had six years to be governor. He could have led a minimum wage increase. He has not. He is a phony on the minimum wage. Get a minimum wage increase. I will do more than that. I will make it so the families of illinois are out for maximum opportunities. We shouldnt be a high unemployment states like we are, where people are hoping to get to the minimum wage. Whereuld have an economy people are stuck at the minimum wage. I will become probusiness and progrowth. Pat quinn is a phony on the minimum wage and he is a phony on term limits. He used to say he was for term limits until he got power. Now he doesnt want to give it up. He has been in office six years and he wants 10 years. I will get term limits done on the ballot as governor. He has had six years to get term limits and has not shown up. Follow up . Will you do the day after you are reelected . Say the referendum passes. What specific steps will you take after trying over and over to get something done . We will build a majority of the months of november and december and we will have by january a minimum wage of at least 10 an hour. My opponent is a champion name caller. He thinks the way to get ahead is to call the other guy different names. I have been for term limits since 1994. I got 500,000 signatures. He wasnt around at all. He says now he is for term limits. Of sticking tod issues i was able to get recall adopted in the constitution by sticking to it. Stick to it and convince the legislators, using the power of referendum, to get the job done. We need leadership. Failed. N has term limits will get done. I will also drive redistricting reform. Reason that i have been endorsed by eight of the prominent newspapers here in illinois. They know i am a leader, that i drive results. That quinn has had no endorsements from any of the newspapers in the state. I have been endorsed by the Illinois Chamber of commerce. They know i will drive Economic Growth and i will get things done. We have reached the point where you make these ask a question where you may each ask a question of the other. You talked a lot about your company and the fact that you made so much money. You look at your website and you have 51 executives. There was one latino and no africanamericans. Not one executive of your company is africanamerican. Channel seven ask you about this and you said you couldnt find any. My question to you is where did you look . My answer is i hired africanamericans in our firm, latino members and our firm, Asian Americans and many other minorities. As governor i will drive andlts, helping minorities members of families of every Community Get results. You have been a failure. African are suffering brutally in illinois under you. Brutally high crime, low wages, no jobs, a lack of social services. I will get it done. I will be the first latino lieutenantgovernor in illinois history. Im going to work for hispanic families. And you been a failure are taking the africanamerican vote for granted. You had a super stock of could the governor. She is talented and i wish he was a republican. After i win this race im going to ask her to join our administration. Ournt women in administration, africanamerican leaders like Tony Anderson and willie wilson. I will get africanamerican leaders turning our state around. Rebuttal . I didnt hear anything about where he was looking for executives and his firm. 51 executives and he talks about all the time but not one africanamerican. I asked him where he looked and he said he couldnt find any. Here in the state with 13 million people, one of the largest states in the union, have a lot of talented men and women and he couldnt find an africanamerican executive to serve in his firm. I think that says a lot about the kind of hiring he has been doing in government, the kind of hiring in his private life. You have the opportunity to question governor quinn. I will come back to one of the most important issues pat quinn has not reformed our government. We still have huge come away slow spending and cronyism. Pat quinn, i will last you one more time please answer the question yes or no. When you lose, after the election, if you lose november to not you commit raising the income tax, not giving income tax hike extensions while you are still governor . I will commit to make sure we have a proper budget for education and Public Health in a time of crisis to make sure we have public safety. I think we need to have proper revenue. I will work with the legislature on that and it is the only proper way to go. S his tax on it services of everyday people. Will, you will have to pay attacks. Adopted child, tax. Adopt a child, tax. They take huge tax cuts from themselves. Then they savage then savage cuts to our education. A rebuttal . He is avoiding the question. We cant allow this to happen. Pat quinn got the income tax hike through last time in the lameduck session with legislators who were leaving office. Then he turned around and gave sweetheart government deals, sweetheart jobs in deals to some of the legislators who voted for it. Governors a lameduck for two months after he loses in november, it is not right that he might put an income tax height on the families of illinois. Taxes are already too high. I have taken to families who have taken that one week of pay away and it is crushing them. They had to sell their homes because the real estate taxes are too high. Thank you. A followup question. Onfollowing question education comes from a student involved in the fellowship in chicago. Because there is no conclusive evidence on chartered schools working better than neighborhood schools, the students want to inw what does the state chicago seem to be on the path to create more chartered schools well neighborhood schools have been slashed and are facing closing . And if that is the case, would you support a moratorium that stop of the creation of more chartered schools . I believe chartered schools are one option we should offer. The most important thing we can do is to have high quality schools and a lot of options so parents can choose the best school that fits their child, the most appropriate way. Charter schools are not perfect and they are not the ideal answer. Chartered school should be an option. Allow various options. We should have scholarship programs which i help fund, voucher programs, we should have innovative ideas and uses of technology so that classes can be offered from remote locations and we should bring Vocational Training back to Public Schools so our young people can be trained for the jobs available. Would you support a moratorium . I would not support a moratorium. We need options for parents. Failing in illinois because pat quinn has cut school funding. It is a fact. L funding has gone down roughly 10 . Thank you. I do support a moratorium, at least a threeyear moratorium. We need to get to the bottom of it to see if they are even working. He is a big fan of Charter Schools and i am not. It is important to understand that Public Education is the heart and soul of illinoiss economy. I am running against a billionaire who wants to give andelf a 1 million tax cut give savage cuts to our Public Schools. He wrote an oped saying that teachers are paid too much, 23 to much. I think we should properly pay our teachers. They deserve our praise. It is one of the most important locations we have. I think we need to invest in that. Ourge, radical cuts to luggage education as advocated by my opponent will never make it as long as im governor. I dont think it is right will stop i think it is important to make sure we have Early Childhood education. Followup . You talked a little bit about scholarship for Higher Education. Our students also want to know do ift are you going to you are elected governor to actually make Higher Education more affordable, so that they can graduate without record debt . This is important. Have the monetary assistance program, map. I believe in that program and have proposed a budget that will double the number of scholarships under map. Get 375tudents million for the scholarship. Hundred 50,000 students qualify to go to college, but the money runs out. I want to increase those scholarships and double the amount of money for scholarships. My opponent wants to slash the map program. Would you do Something Different . Pat quinn has been cutting Higher Education funding for years. One of the things we have brutally high instate tuition that many families cant afford is because pat quinn has been cutting Higher Education funding, just like he has cut k12 funding. He is making up false statements because he cant run the truth. We need to increase state support for Higher Education but we also need to cut the wasteful spending, the overhead in our public university. Compared to other states we have a lot of waste. If we cut the waste we can have affordable tuition. Followup for mr. Quinn. Governor, you made the point about him not having any africanamericans in his firm, gtcr. The past 12 years, democrats have held majority in the Illinois House and senate. A democrat has been governor. It is arguable that the most loyal constituency is africanamerican. How to u. S. Governor explained lackhronic unemployment, of business development, underperforming schools, and other deteriorating conditions in the black community . With respect to unemployment, my opponent is a job eliminator. He has started firms to teach other firms how to outsource there speaking about the africanamerican community. Inthey and everybody illinois. If you have somebody who is aspiring to be governor who wants to outsource american jobs, that is the wrong way to go. His record is one of laying off workers. That is how he made all his money. He has made a fortune of playing off people and i think the best way to create jobs is what im doing, investing in education for everyone. I think it is also important to have a public Construction Program that puts people to work. I insisted on a program called employee illinois for minority workers get a chance to have straight jobs on the road, building bridges and schools. I was at the urban league for the kickoff of one of the training sessions. I think these are the ways you help everyday people, including raising the minimum wage. That will help a lot of people. Governor quinn has been the chief. Cer in he has pushed jobs out of illinois on a massive scale. We are one of the lowest job creating states in america. We have lost over 48,000 and you factoring jobs under pat quinn, a hard fact. We are not creating jobs. That is crushing all families. Pat quinn has been a disaster for africanamericans. Brutally high unemployment, high deteriorating schools, lack of social services he has taken the africanamerican vote for granted and you can see it every day. He could have had an africanamerican superstar. Her off. Hrows i have been a lifelong advocate for the africanamerican community. 20 years ago i endowed a full professorship in atlanta to help educate africanamerican leaders. I donated tens of millions of dollars to help build Public Schools. I have funded bonuses for africanamerican teachers in chicago. Followup . So what are you going to do to create jobs for young, africanamerican males, lets say. What will you do . We need to focus in the local communities. One program i worked with this called a minority enterprise small Investment Company. We will work with that company. As governor i will create a minority enterprise Investment Company program. Subordinatede loads and Equity Investments in minority enterprises. They dont own businesses because we need the local businesses hiring local students. One man had to travel two hours to a job i have got a plan in detail to help grow africanamerican jobs. My opponent just said he is a lifelong advocate, but he couldnt hire even one africanamerican as an executive. Take a look at their website. On our administration, africanamericans are leading key departments with many different responsibilities. I believe in diversity. I think it is important when he talks about bonuses. He gives bonuses to Corporate Executives to lay people off or commit accounting fraud. Has been giving bonuses to those who are laying off american workers, committing crimes. I know you have several things you have talked about when it comes to attempts to reduce violence especially in urban communities. With would you support a ban on assault weapons . Weere is the simple fact are not enforcing existing gun laws. We have tough gun laws in illinois. Pat quinn is not enforcing them. The most important thing we can do is to keep them away from criminals. Pat quinn is not doing that. Is not purchases that he stopping, Police Officers who arent properly equipped, Police Forces that arent properly staffed. He is a disaster on gun and enforcement. s lack other real driver of opportunity. That is what really drives Violent Crime because young people are so desperate to have an income for themselves and the future that they resort to joining gangs. I will bring mentoring programs into a Public High School so the most vulnerable students can get role models to help them stay in school and given advice on jobs. I will increase Education Funding to our schools, pat quinn has cut it. Traininging vocational to high school so many young people are trained for chops that are available. With respect to increasing Education Funding, which he cannot do with his budget, i hope he doesnt bring those executives who had to go to jail who had committed accounting fraud for him. As the assault weapons ban, i am for banning assault weapons. Thepponent is afraid of lobby that protects assault weapons. I think we need a governor Strong Enough to say to that lobby that we are going to get the law passed to protect public safety. Laws thatned many have put stronger penalties on those who commit crimes with guns, including one this year dealing with lost and stolen guns. I want to thank a senator for his leadership i was with him when we signed that bill. Downat Police Officer shot and i know his mom and i know his dad. I think it is important to have a governor who understands firsthand how important it is to protect everyone from violence, and im. We need to make investments with summer jobs and afterschool jobs and weekend jobs to keep kids out of trouble. Separate followups. Why dont you want to say yes or no . I want to focus on what is going to get results. We can get results. Pat quinn has been a disaster on crime. In his six years in office we have had terrible crime, Violent Crime, in chicago and rockford and decatur. Is crushing the families of illinois. Pat quinn has been a failure on police staffing, on enforcing creatinggun laws, at opportunities for young people in the most impoverished neighborhoods. I have got a plan that we will grow the economy dramatically. I am a bills this builder a is this builder. What a you want to make the income tax permanent . I said we should maintain i dont understand that is my answer. I let out my budget six months ago very clearly. We need to maintain the income will,nd give and you direct Property Tax Relief of 500 to every single homeowner in this state. That is a specific, concrete plan. It also includes tax relief for families. That is what i stand for. Im going to keep doing it until we get it done. So you are saying yes, give the permanent tax increase. That the in my budget proper way is to invest in havetion, to make sure we Property Tax Relief that is specific, annual, that goes to people who need it the most. More than 2 million homeowners in illinois every year will get a 500 property tax refund. Thank you. The next question, erica. The illinois Slate Legislature approved temporary driver license for undocumented immigrants. There are many residents that cannot get an appointment due to the overflow of people. R, it seems your administration has underestimated and underfunded this program. We want to know what are you going to do to solve this problem so they are safer . The program is actually under the secretary of states office. The secretary of state needs more budget money in order to properly handle this particular issue. I am very openminded to that. Important that there have been plenty of appointments for people who have come to take their test and prove they are capable of driving. Then why havent you given them the assistance . I maintained the revenue necessary to help the secretary of state to help our state police. I think it is important that we not have radical and extreme cuts in our budget. My opponent wants that. He doesnt want to deal with the consequences of that which is often agencies like our department of Public Health that has got to be on the front lines to protect all of us from contagious diseases. It is important that we properly invest in that. Billionaire a Million Dollar tax cut that is what he is all about. To hiss to give cuts fellow millionaires and billionaires at the expense of our Public Health, secretary of is important we have proper investment in those agencies. What initiatives do you propose to improve the life of immigrants . The tree mac and comprehensive Immigration Reform and i want to make illinois a welcoming state for immigrants all over the world. You raise an important issue in the travers license of ministration process. Pat quinn has been a disaster in administering the government will stop we waste billions of dollars under pat quinn and he wants to initiate further tax hikes. His corruption and his cronyism even pat quinns own people have said that there is over half 1 billion in wasted spending. The bureaucracy that runs the state. Pat quinn has not touched it because that is where his patronage is. That is where his Campaign Cash comes from. Corruption, it is wrong, and it takes money out of our schools and out of our social services. Lets go to laura washington. You once said that you would veto the samesex marriage bill in illinois. The bill is now law. Door forly opened the the law going through in other states. What would you do to a short lgbt families and couples that you would uphold the marriage law and illinois, and ensure other protections for lgbt families . I have been very clear on this i want everyone at home to understand my position. Marriage equality is the law in illinois. I support the law. I do not support everchanging it or appealing it, period. Le we need to focus on now other important issues that really matter. We have got to focus on jobs, taxes, schools, ending the corruption. I will get results. Pat quinn has been a failure and he is desperate for other issues to come up. He and i are largely aligned on womens rights. He keeps trying to bring it up and make it an issue. He keeps trying to bring up the Marriage Equality act. Now and imng comfortable with the law. We need to move past it and protect it. We need to focus on what we can do now to grow jobs and reduce the tax burden and improve our schools. I will get that done. Like thessue was a lot assault weapons. My opponent wants to have everyone have a right to have an assault weapon of military style. I want them banned. I have the courage to say it. When it came to Marriage Equality i advocated for it. The night it past my opponent said he would vetoit. Veto it. Now he is a supporter. We have to understand that there are people in the government who have to lead the legislature to do something important for the future of our state. That is what i did with respect to Marriage Equality. My issue of corruption opponent has a lot of explaining to do. One of his nursing home operations was found by the state of georgia to have to pay a 13 million fine for cheating medicaid. They took the money for themselves and let Vulnerable People left Vulnerable People helpless. That is what my opponent is all about. He doesnt take any responsibility when things go wrong. He just takes the money and runs. We are dropping followups in the interest of time. Governor, how are you getting along with the speaker . Was fired he conspicuously absent from governors stain springfield. Is he the most powerful person in the state, and what have you done or will you do to restore the governors power and prestige . I think i have a lot of power and have used it wisely. I was able to get the earned i disagreecredit, from time to time with the speaker of the house. I have suspended legislative pay including his own and my own in order to get a an important reform passed. To get along have with legislators of both parties in order to get important laws passed. That is what i have done. I think it is important to have a governor who can get reform laws passed. I have gotten ethics laws passed. How are you going to get along with him if you are elected . I will get results because i have the ability to lead. Pat quinn has been a failure. I have gotten to know every member of the General Assembly. You are calling them corrupt. There is corruption in springfield, Everybody Knows it. When it comes to working and getting legislation drafted, i will use my leadership ability to get things done. Pat quinn is a failure with the General Assembly. Even the president was quoted saying he is irrelevant to most of the governing process down there, and leaders in the General Assembly say they need someone like me. Do you really think we are out of time for questions and it is time for closing statements. Mr. Quinn. We have a stark choice. I think it is important that we keep our economy moving and state moving forward and that is what i am all about. My opponent wants to take us back. He has a budget plan that will sabotage our education. It will cut other parts with radical cuts. We maintainant that our investment in education. That is what i have proposed in our budget. Some Early Childhood educational the way to college, improving our scholarships. My opponent wants to cut that back. I dont think that is the right way to go. I believe in raising the minimum wage. My opponent is adamantly against the minimum wage. I have fought for everyday people all my life in government and outside of government. I organized a petition drive for a referendum that set up the citizen utility board. That is getting the job done. I fight hard for our veterans and all of our Public Servants who are out there sacrificing for us. They know they have a friend in pat quinn. I have been endorsed by firefighters, Police Officers and all kinds of Public Servants who know it will get the job done. I love illinois. This is home. I raise my six children here. Ournt stand to see beautiful state is deteriorating under governor pat quinn. We have become the worst run state in america. Crime. Yment, we can do so much better. I will drive results. I have been a Problem Solver my whole life. We will get more jobs in the economy and get the government efficient. We will invest in education so we have the best schools in america. Toave dedicated 25 years that goal. We will deal with the corruption under pat quinn. We will rip the system out at its roots. Thank you. We have time only to say good night and please vote. You can watch this and other campaign 2014 debates on our website, www. Cspan. Org. We also have ads from races all over the country. Here is ads from the illinois governors race. The highest unemployment in 30 years. I am the jobs governor. One of the worst unemployment rates in america. Corruption or incompetence . Pat quinn failed that his job and now he wants four more years. Do you know how many people work at first rounds firm at the roof rauners firm . How many are africanamerican . When nbc news asked, he said he could not find anyone. We. Were not finding the folks. They werent there. Sayingyou are running as how close you are to our community . Did you think nobody would find out . I am a democrat and i am for bruce rauner because he is my husband. But when bruce says he will