Hes a great winner. I will tell you. I think he help me a little bit. We are doing well everywhere. I just feel that this would get the ball rolling. If we win iowa, such a big event for me. Im going to tell you, even my people say why dont you just say we want to do well here. Second, third, fourth. I dont want to say that. Dontant to win, and we it is because youre too lazy to caucus. , theyre goingin to say he wanted to win. It is a miserable upset. They will show every speech where i say i want to win. They do. Are what i want to win iowa. I want to win iowa. So here is the story. You have to go back to Time Magazine. I havent promoted a magazine like that and a long time. That guy got it. He has the understanding. , theows about the Movement Noise majority. People,ngry at stupid people who dont know what they are doing. We were in south carolina, and amazing thing. We had an arena packed and they turned away more than 5000 people. I was saying last night we are all angry at what is going on. We want to get it sexton we are going to get it fixed. It is going to be so good and so much fun. It is fun. I will go saturday and friday night all the time. Im in iowa. Next couple of weeks, im going to be seeing you so much you are going to be so sick of me. I said do you think it is too much . Maybe they are going to get sick and tired. Of you know, we have a lot energy. We want i dont want to waste any time. We are on the cusp of something that is so great. Is 42 percent. By the way, this is by 15 people. I take 42 . I started out with 4 . Then i go to a percent. Than 12 . Then i went to 26 . They were saying he has reached his plateau. Thats his plateau. Then i went to 28. Then i went to 30. Now we have reuters. 42 . Carson at 12 . Bush is so low. What is going on with that guy . 69 million. You cant buy elections anymore. People are too smart for it. I view it as something you should think about. He is a nice person. Described badly candidate. He is a little low energy. Energy. Need low we need highenergy. Do you think isis wants to know about low energy . You need a lot of energy. China, what they are doing , the richestrade people in china. The biggest rank in the world is from china. They by my apartment. They are killing us. It is one of the great robberies of all time. Maybe the greatest theft in the history of the world. The money in the jobs and everything china has taken. We have rebuilt china. They have taken it out of our country, out of the United States. We have rebuilt china. We dont even know. The head of china comes here, they give a steak dinner. They say dont give state dinners pretty have to get to work. We will have the greatest negotiators. We have the best Business People in the world. Leaders. Est business they are going to represent us. They dont want any money. They will represent us. Billion last year with china. Think of it. 505 billion dollars, with one country. Inan and the cars, pouring millions of cars. Never seen ships like this. Go to los angeles. The cars pull off like it is the long island expressway. Just one after another. We give them practically nothing. Look at the trade deficit. We have the power over these countries where we can do right, we can come out ahead. They shouldnt be happening. We having carbon that people negotiating. We have donors, we have hacks. We are not using our best. , hot aso china, vietnam a pistol. Vietnam is taking business from china. Vietnam. Not us pray they dont worry about us because our people dont know what they are doing. And mexico is going to be the new china. What they are doing to us is unbelievable. They did catch el chapo. Good . They did catch el chapo. Thats good. He better not escape a third time. Right under the toilet. Pretty amazing when you think about it. But, anyway. Put him on the fourth floor this time, right . No more first floors. Mexico, i have a great relationship with mexico, with the mexican people. Thate thousands of people work for me, thousands of mexicans that are incredible people that work for me. But their leaders are too smart. Whats happening is we dont have a border between the anchor i was right on the anchor babies. We dont need a constitutional amendment to stop this craziness. Is have a woman she pregnant, she walks over and has the baby and we take care of the baby for 85 years. It doesnt say that. The best lawyers in the world agree with me. When i first made the statement that it makes sense. If you read the fine print they came men, they are here illegally. They have a baby. They dont leave the baby. The baby is an anchor baby. For that maybe for 80 years. We dont need a constitutional amendment. We dont need it. It is there. Of congress and people thinking maybe we dont even need that. We should be evil to get that, frankly but we probably dont even need that. ,ox news comes out last night 35 for trump national. Ted cruz at 20. Im winning by a lot. Lot, hereinning by a is one that i love. They dont cover it. They dont what to cover these great numbers. Ofald trump, did anyone hear Hillary Clinton . This is just last night. Trump 47, clinton 44 and i havent even started yet. Yet. Ent even started some would say a couple of days ago i started. That is not even starting. That is a warmup. Here is what happens. The commentators, the Hillary Clinton people say we would love to run against donald trump. Thelled them and said reason they say that is that they dont want to run against me. They dont get the last thing is runningo be doing against donald trump. They would love to have somebody else who was a little more mildmannered. Who will not bring up the truth. I just tell the truth. Believe me. I know clinton. I have been friendly. When i was a businessman. Can i say that im still a businessman . I hate to say im a politician. They are so bad. Nothing ever gets done. Youre not going to make it. You put some politician in there, i know them all. Ive contributed to most of them. One of them said no, i dont think you have contributed to me. I did. I have given to democrats. Ive given to hillary. Because that was my job. I have to give to them. When i want something, i get it. When i call, they kiss my ass. They do. They kiss my ass. Its true. [applause] think of that. 47, Hillary Clinton 44. I love it. N iowa, a cnn poll i think it is the most accurate. Ted cruz 20. 33, the one last night has us statistically even. I dont want it to be close. We have to have a mandate. We have to get out there. I want to win by so much. I have to tell you, New Hampshire we are doing so good. Look at this. We are up 21 points. I mean we are up 21 points. Here is one in south carolina. Donald trump 38. Do you know what that is . That is a massive difference. We are doing good. Ted is a nice guy. I like him. He likes me. I like him. Why . Hes been nice to me. Here is the problem. He is talking about natural born citizens. Nomination,ot the the democrats are going to bring a major suit. He was born in canada whether we like it. He lives there. He was born in canada. His parents voted in canada. A lot of things. If youre born in canada, it may be a problem. Citizenship 1618 months ago. Lawrence tribe is from hartford. Very great lawyer. A constitutional expert. Hes on Television Last night. He said about now to born citizens that this matter is not a settled matter. It is wrong to say it is a settled matter because it is not. Just so you understand, that means there is a question. He was born in canada. Republican, ias a think its important, you have to get it straightened out. Go for the declaratory judgment where you say there is a problem a problem ofs interpretation. You get a ruling from the judge. Because you cannot put somebody there that is going to go in and be immediately sued by the democrats because they are saying he was born in canada. There is that doubt. Who knows more about lawsuits than i do . Im the king. They take 23 years. You can have somebody running and have a lawsuit and people have artie said they will bring a lawsuit. As to natural born citizenship. Honestly, i dont know. Some say have to be born on the land. That is what i always thought before. He was born in canada. John mccain had the same problem. The differences his parents were both in the military and he was born on a military base. I understand that. What you going to do . Say you should have taken me back home to be born . He was born on a military base. By the way. Lawrence tribe represented john mccain on that. He said he was troubled by it. It bothered him. But he also understood it. With ted cruz it is a problem. If it is a problem, they have to work it out. You cant give somebody a nomination. I think we are going to win. I dont want to win this way. I dont want to win this way. I want to win fair and square. Based on the polls i am doing well. But, you cant have a person running for office even though ted is very glib and he says im a natural born citizen. The point is you are not. Youve got to get a declaratory judgment. You have the courts, with a ruling for you have a candidate who just cannot run. The other side will immediately bring suit and you have that clout on your head and you cant have that cloud on the head. The republicans have a structural disadvantage. Speaking of that, i think im going to do great in new york. A state they dont even talk about. You have to win florida. You have to win ohio. I do great in ohio. Hm killing case sick kasic in ohio. Im killing him in the polls. Its the same thing in florida. Why did you pick one of them . Its interesting. Pennsylvania, were going to do great. For they have done in the industrys, i guarantee you im going to do great in pennsylvania. I think and want to do great in states not considered in play. I think new york. They came out with a pull, upstate new york loves trump. I do well in manhattan. I lived there. The truth is whether it is liberal or not liberal, democrat or whatever, people want safety. They want our country to be great again. They want lower taxes. [applause] win think that im going to states that these people up there with the cameras dont even talk about. States that arent even talked about. The other people are not going to win those states. There is not a chance. All these people are not going to win new york. I have a good chance of winning. They like me. I have employed thousands and thousands of people. I have built projects in new the littlest to the biggest buildings. Tens of thousands of people. They like me in new york. A place like new york which is an even thought of, all of a sudden they are saying trump would have a chance because upstate new york, which is set with a have done with that, it is in serious trouble, because it in such trouble i have a chance of winning. Nobody else does. It just came out and one of the magazines that if trump gets the nomination they think he is going to take 20 of the democrat vote. I think so. [applause] do you remember the old little group of people some are still around. Democrats for who . Reagan . Remember how many voted for ronald reagan. They are not polling that stuff. With im going to do great the hispanics. I told you about nevada where i won the pole because in one to create jobs. Im going to do great with africanamericans. They know im bringing the jobs back from china and japan and mexico. I want great with africanamericans. There was a poll that showed i had 25 with africanamericans. 25 . A republican gets 5 . 7 tops. This came out and said 25 for trump. The commentators were talking about it. If he gets 25 of the africanamerican vote this election is over. He wins. It is over. I dont know if im going to get 25 . I have a great relationship with the africanamericans. They love me. I love them. Great with them. Were going to do great with every group. It is just a very exciting time. It is it is exciting to see what is happening. When i first announced, it was amazing. I have never seen so many cameras. It looked like the academy awards. I said to my wife it takes guts to run for president. Im not a politician. Ive always heard from day one, ive heard you cant run if you are a successful person, you cant run for president. I said it doesnt matter. Committee stupid things are happening. They dont know what they are doing. They are either corrupt, incompetent or they have another agenda. I dont really think so but maybe there is another agenda out there we dont even know about. There is something going on because there are so many things that are so simple like the iran deal. How do you give 150 billion and we get nothing of that deal . We dont even get our prisoners back. Ran wants to start negotiating for the prisoners. Much. Aid we want very you just get sick when you see it. They are getting 150 billion is what we should have done right at the beginning, in the middle, at the beginning of this thing, you go and say you want our prisoners back. They never asked for the prisoners. You know kerry. The worst negotiator. The persians are great negotiators. He is a master negotiator. Kerry said he never wanted to do that or ask for the prisoners because he didnt want to complicate the deal. That is what he said. He didnt want to complicate the deal. They are still there. Pastor, ahristian pastor, a christian. The Washington Post has one of the reporters there. They are hostages. In, youpens is you go made the right men say to them we have to have our prisoners back. Whenever it started. Got a have them back before we start negotiating. They will say no, and we will say byebye, we are leaving. With goodbye, get up and leave. They should have left that four or five times instead of sitting there. You get up and you leave. Now what you do is ratchet up the sanctions and bring them up a couple of steps. You double them, triple them, give them nothing. , double them. Up i guarantee you within 48 hours they will be calling saying three years ago, saying we will give you your prisoners, when can we start negotiating . You wait till the prisoners are on the plane, you wait until they are over american soil, you wait till they are landing and you have your next meeting. Theyou are not giving them 150 million because we dont have it. We want to give it a we dont have that. We cant give you the money, we dont have it, im sorry. Lets put that in your head. They will be angry but dont worry about it. They will get over it. You make a good deal. You have your prisoners. If im going to go in, im not going to have that 150 billion. It will drive me nuts. I hate the concept of giving away that much money so stupidly. Now they call and they say we are now prepared to negotiate for the prisoners but we want a lot. Can you believe the stupidity of these people. This is one of the greatest deals of all time. The greatest you of all time, i out,started figuring this what do they get in addition to this great deal with the money . 24 days for inspection. So we say we had that building was nuclear. Let us know. Days, they hit to the 24 they have to go through a process. It could be forever. They have certain areas where they have self inspection. Think of iran with self inspection. We hear you are Building Nuclear. Let us go and inspect. We will call you back tomorrow. Mr. President , i promise we are not Building Nuclear there. This is madness. How we could have agreed to this is insane. It will lead to Nuclear Proliferation as sure as you are sitting there. You already see saudi arabia. If you think that iraq, and what is going on, the greatest deal they have made is iraq. They have been fighting for iraq forever. Since i was born they have been fighting. They have two equal countries in terms of militarily they go this and they fight. 10 feet this way 10 feet that way. They rest for a couple of years ago back and fight. Saddam hussein with the gas, and the other one with gas, we take a truce, they rest. What the hell . We should have never been there in the first place. I said that. We have to rebuild our country great we have to rebuild our infrastructure, our roads, schools am a bridges and we are pouring money. And 2003, donald trump opposed to the war. Im morelitary militaristic that anybody in this room. I want that strong military. I wanted so bad because we are not going to have it. We have to have it. We have to build it up. Im in the real estate business. All the time i am getting these listings of naval base for sale, air force for sale. How many places do they have . We are always selling these bases. We need a strong military. We need a powerful military. We dont have it. We just dont have it. We are going to change things in this country. We are going to use our heads and be so smart, we are going to be so cunning, were going to win so much. Were going to win on militarily. We are going to knock the shit out of isis. [applause] we are going to win with health care. If you look at obama care, obama care the premiums are up 25 35 , 45 . It is a disaster. It is going to collapse in 2017. In 2017 it has to collapse. Going to terminated and replace it with something better. Cheaper for you, cheaper for the country. It is no good. Did you see your deductibles . We have to be dying for years before you get any money. You have to be so bad, youre not going to get any money. The deductibles or through the roof and premiums are going up so fast it is a disaster for everybody. We need health care. We need some the different things. We need a strong border. We need the wall. Were going to build the wall. [applause] down trump tower with my wife, she was very elegans and im waving saying what am i doing, why my doing this . They have a lot of people back there. It looked like the academy awards. I mentioned i talked about illegal immigration. I took he like nobody has ever taken heat. Trumpimbaugh said donald has taken more incoming that any human being ive ever seen. I took a lot of heat. Started dyingr it down. Then you have the killing of ja angeles, getting ready to go to college, football player, great father, an amazing guy. Shot in the face by an illegal immigrant who should have never been here you had the woman killed recently in california. A beautiful, wonderful, 66yearold veteran. She was raped, sodomized, and killed, by a person that should never, ever been allowed to be here. And many, many more. Just many, many, many more. And people started say, you know, hes right. Hes right. And now thats not even controversial. Now, the other day, im watching saying, yes, hes and we will build the wall. I said, where the hell did that come from . [laughter] its true. And my wife said to me, darling, you have to hear this. And if it wasnt for tivo, i hearnt have been able to it myself. I ran it back. She said, Somebody Just said hes going to build a wall. Shes really into this. Everybody is. I can tell you names. People that you wouldnt belief. Watch it. They love it. We had 24 Million People at the debate, biggest in the history of cable television. Show bate, i mean 24 million. Cnn had 23 Million People watch biggest audience in the history of cnn. This isnt me talking. Out as cnn putting release. The biggest audience now, lets say trump isnt involved. Okay . Aye say its rand Paul Jeb Bush oh to mentiont everybody, because some people i like so much. But lets say, okay, a cast of characters. Those debates used to draw flies. They didnt draw anybody. [laughter] nobody wanted to watch the debate. Networks didnt even want them. Them asthey had to take part of their license. They didnt even want them. Now they say, can we make them hours, ten hours . I mean, its crazy whats going on, the debates. And Everybody Knows why. Variety is the story, the trump debates, right . All of the different places do a story. The hollywood reporter, good magazine. They do a story. Beautiful story on me. But they call it the trump debates. Great and the beauty is that if i run against hillary, they say its largest votere turnout in the history of the United States. And i believe that. Said, and cnbc not only is it going to be the largest voter turnout, but many of these people are tired of these phony, corrupt politicians, like hillary [cheering] and theyre going to vote for have and were going to big victory. Were going to have a big victory. Came down,tarted, i beautiful building, trurp tower. Tower. Rump go check it out sometime. First,uy Time Magazine then check out trump tower. On toog on and come realdonaldtrump. Between twitter and facebook and instagram, i have like 11 or 12 of likefollowers, sort owning the New York Times without the losses. Can you believe that . Its incredible. Incredible. I just i did something the other day. I did a tweet on something. And im watching. Im home, taking it easy, reading the paper. I did a tweet. We havebreaks out, breaking News Donald Trump is just some little thing about somebody not doing a good job someplace, right . Donald trump has Just Announced energy. Bush is low [laughter] breaking news. No. Its like crazy. The most incredible form incredible. K, so and they watch it. They watch every tweet. You gotta be careful a little bit. Make a spelling mistake, they kill you. Typo. Make a if i do a little typo, its like death they just go wild. It on. T look at this man look at this man, this is a horrible typo but it does give you a tremendous amount of power. So real donald trump. Adding a few thousand people doesnt mean anything, right, you have millions . But theyre people from iowa. You have tremendous power, because youre going to be the agenda. Its so important what youre so when i began, when i began, it started off and i was about the border. I was talking about trade. I was talking about china and i was talking about all of these countries that have been ripping us off and taking our money and destroying us and leaving us poor, leaving us without jobs and all of the things that have happened. True. The things that are newtown, iowa newton. From newton . Shes not, but she knows. Ofy took businesses out newton. I felt badly. People where at daughter wasnt able to go any further in college and things. So i helped them out. Feel really good. I didnt know i would be doing this. That was years ago. Of newton, they like donald trump. But it was very unfair. Jobs were taken. Taken. Es were it was vikd. But thats happening all over the country. I first came down, i said it was about trade and about the about obamat was care, repealing and replacing obamacare. Then we had paris. And then we saw hatred. Hatred like weve been watching. Forget, the world trade world e center was hatred. My book, the america we deserve, i talked about bin laden. And Joe Scarborough said, wait a minute, when did he talk about this . Couple of years ago before the World Trade Center went down. No way show it to me. Looked. They found out, i talked about laden. I bin i said, dont go into iraq. Osama bin laden, you gotta take these guys out. The reason i talked about him, i sawhim on television, and i him in the papers. I said, this guy is a bad guy. Later, hef years knocked down the World Trade Center. They should have knocked him out. Tol clinton had a chance take him out and he didnt do it. If he did it, you would have the center probably standing right now. So i said, amazing. Amazing, he thats was talking about bin laden center. He trade i was talking about these different things. Then what happens is you have a very horrible thing and we know what that is. Paris was terrible. Then you had recently california. Was horrible. 14 people, just killed, by that threw wedding receptions for them and an anniversary. It was friends of theirs and they walked in and killed them. Theres something going on, something wrong here. Then paris. Formerly, the press, they were fortunately, the press, calling him the the dumb guy with the dirty hat, you demean these people. They, isis and others, are using the internet to take our and tons minds radicalize our children. And we wont even know about it. And theyre going to places and show up at the places i join they become they isis and they join alqaeda and disgusting its whats going on, right . So i said, we have to get to the bottom of all of this. It very strongly, very vividly. Anchors, please dont call the leaders masterminds. Very low people with i. Q. s, no good. The guy with the white hat, i the dirtyhe guy with white cap. He had the white ski thing on. Mastermind . He sends guys in. You go there, you go there. Think of this, because im big amendment. Ond weve got to save our second amendment, folks. [cheering] got to save it so. [cheering] goso if you go in, if you in, and you have paris, where you have a number of places, and thugs in there with guns, the toughest gun laws in the world, they say, is and paris. The toughest in the world. You cant have a gun, unless youre a bad guy, you have a gun. You walk around with a gun, right . But if youre a lawabiding allowed tore not have a gun. So in paris, these thugs, these dirty rotten, very stupid demented people, walk in. And they say, get over. Boom over. Boom not one gun in the room, except for the bad guys. With more to come because you have some really badly wounded people in the wontals, many of whom make it. You have 130 people, a hospital load of horrible, horrible injuries. For what . I guarantee you, if that guy hist there had a gun on ankle and if that guy right waist,ad a gun on his and this one over here, the tall one with the glasses, or even the woman , or she looks tougher than all of them [cheering] but if there were guns on the other side, where youd have bullets going in both directions, it wouldnt be that way. Same thing in california. With these two horrible people, right . These two horrible people that knew everybody in the room. They were sort of friends, i guess. But they knew everybody in the room. And if you had a gun on the other side, it would have been a and you wouldnt have the kind of carnage and horror show had. You we have to protect our second amendment. Remember that. Be with me, its going to protected. [cheering] we love you, trump [cheering] and just one other thing, you have gunfree zones. Bad guy. Ike bait to a ba a gunfree zone. We had the five military killed, so long ago. On a military base, signs all over the place, this is a gunfree zone. Was one of the alltime great soldiers, has every record, was a great marksman. Not allowed to have a gun. He cant have a gun. So they have gunfree zones. Sees this is a gunfree zone. Walks in. Kills these five people. Have guns, believe me, it wasnt turn out that way. They were standing there, done. G they could have he walks in, fully loaded. They had their guns, 200 yards away. Locked up. First thing i do, one of the first things theres so many do, but we get rid of those gunfree zones, especially on military basis. Ridiculous. Its ridiculous. [cheering] so. Just to finish, theres so many country can do. Its common sense. Its smart. Have to be so vigilant. We have to watch. Whats happening. And when i brought up a certain about radical islamic terrorism, a couple of weeks met withs unbelievable similar to when illegal about immigration. And by the way, when cnn came out with their poll two weeks isis. Lead with i lead with everything. I lead with immigration. I lead with isis. Terrorism. And i dont mean by a little. Im over 50 with most of them. The economy. That we sort of expect, because i will be the greatest jobs ever created. God that i can tell you. The greatest. Ill be the best [cheering] but. When i brought up when i up radical islamic terrorism, words the president the United States refuses to say now, if you dont say the dont knowd if you what the problem is, youre never gonna solve the problem. Youre never gonna solve it. Theres nothing wrong with him saying we have a problem. Mean, the World Trade Center got knocked down. People are being killed all over the place. Way, when i left today, cologne, germany, people have been beat to hell. Raped. Ave been whats going on in germany is unbelievable. And we have to be smart. Fromnt take these people the line that we have no idea who they are [cheering] you know, we all have heart. A terribleration as is thing, caused to a larger extent by obama and hillary with their stupid, so totally and grossly incompetent. Caused really by them. So what happened and others, but really by them more than anything else. Theyve done,at with libya, with syria, the whole thing, everybody. Done onehink theyve right thing. Even a few things. Look, 50 soldiers. Were going to send 50 soldiers, okay . Two months ago. So obama gets up. Announces, were going to send 50 people. First of all, he thinks its wonderful. Sound these are elite soldiers, great people. These are unbelievable men, women. These are the finest. What the hell does he have to say it for . A targetow they have on their back and the enemy is looking for those 50 people. Kept hisld have just mouth shut and you know what . For the purpose of p. R. , when say, 50 . 0, people its actually bad its not even good have to say it . Why does he have to say, were getting out, we should have folks. Een in iraq, but we shouldnt have gotten out the way we got out. We shouldnt have gotten out the way we got out. I mean, i hated what they did. With iraq t they did but we shouldnt have gotten out. And he goes out and he theunces he announces date that were leaving and i said, oh, thats smart, of it as think camouflage. He leaves that day guys dont kid yourself. They dont want to die. You read all about they want to die. Bull shit. They dont want to die. Okay . They dont wanna die. And let me just tell you another thing. Their families know everything liketheyre doing, just your families know everything that youre doing. Their families know everything they care more about their families than they care about themselves. Die. Dont want to but they care more about their families than they care about themselves. Know. Eir wives and their children know. And they knew everything about the World Trade Center knew what was going on and those people in california, all overpipe bombs their place, all over their apartment and there were numerous people that knew. And they could have reported them to the police and you wouldnt have had the problem. It they didnt wanna do so something bad is going on. And before we do anything, and totallyhis country goes to hell, we better get smart we better get away from these superpoliticians that dont have it. And we better do it right, to havewere not going much of a chance. Were not gonna have much of a chance. [cheering] so. Largely, and even at the rallies, everybody has great confidence in me, with these places. L and dont worry about it. Well take great care of that whole situation. Get along great with them. It will be fine. Were going to do great. Up were going to strengthen our borders. Were going to get along with mexico. Theyre going to respect us more. Like us now. They take advantage. They dont even like us. A plant there. G nabisco, closing their factory it to mexico. Ving that doesnt help us, folks. I went to the greatest schools. Went to the Wharton School of ivy league college. But it does nothing for us. Were going to have respect. Byare going to be respected other countries now. Were not respected. Its funny. Big, fat bully that gets his ass kicked all the time. Nobody nobody respects it. Thats what we are. We dont win anymore. And what i said before is this. We are gonna win so much that you people are going to get so tired of it. Youre going to beg me, please, please, no more victories, mr. Trump. [laughter] no more victories we cant take it anymore two us at least one or failures. And im gonna say, no way were gonna have failures time gonna win all the and we are going to make america again i love you thank you get out and vote [music] theme]f the tiger [music] up ing back on the street did my time took my chances went the distance on my feet k just a man and his will to survive so many times it happened too fast you trade your passion for glory dont lose your grip on the streets of the past to keepst fight just them alive its the eye of the tiger the thrill of the fight rising up to the challenge of our rivals and the last known survivor [music] face to face the heat staying tough staying hungry [music] [music] president ial candidate donald trump, speaking in clear lake, iowa today. And now, your chance to weigh in on what you heard for the last so, from the candidate. Screen. Ers are on your if youre a democratic, republicans call us at another number. Independents, 2027488922. You can tweet us at cspan, also leave a comment on page. Cebook facebook. Com cspan. Calls are coming in already. Lets go right to them. Chris joins us on the line for democratics, from louisiana. Asler for a person such donald trump, donald trump is an person, to say he went to ivy league schools. Ignorant. Donald trump has no clue. Ir him to run for president , will not vote for him and i will that ige every person come in contact with, not, not for that jackass. Huntington, west virginia, joinsican calle caller debra us. Caller yes. I was a registered democratic, obama. Or president regret that greatly, dearly. Of schoolre what type donald trump went to. He speaks the truth. Therefore, he now has my vote. I am now a republican. He definitely knows how to kick ass. And he cant be any worse than any other politician. As he is i greatly appreciate to an ivyr he went league, if he ever went to an ivy league school. I could care less. Debra. Ks for the call, donald trump referred to a number of polls, and the latest iowa president ial caucus polls are out. This one from real clear politics, which shows his competitor, ted cruz, in the 30. 8 . Th donald trump in second place at 26. 8 . At 12 . Bio and then ben carson and jeb bush fourth and fifth place in that real clear politics poll. Cbs news reports on another poll. As cruz leading that one well, in iowa. Ted cruz of texas maintaining lead over the other republican president ial candidates in iowa. Key early nominating state, according to a new fox news showing cruz with 27 , donald trump in second place there at 23 . Calls, though. Judy in florida, on the line for independents. Of donaldou think trumps comments this evening . Caller i thought he hit the head. N the on a great many matters. As far as im concerned, hes got my vote. All right. Thanks for calling. Levi in colorado colorado, a democratic caller. Caller yeah. Watchingt through donald trump. And i thought donald trump showed leadership. I thought donald trump showed everyone that he was totally in control of his emotions. Wasought donald trump extremely strong in every took on,atter that he immigration. Theought he took over for security of the nation. And the financial problems of nation. I think donald trump is the man that can lead us out of the were in right now. Donald trump on the campaign in cleariowa today, lake, iowa, one of a couple of stops there. Housead to the white coverage will continue here on cspan tonight when we replay event in columbia, south carolina, from earlier today, when a number of spoke atn candidates the Kemp Foundation forum there. And then tomorrow, hillary be inn will New Hampshire. Well be there with her at 4 00 shesastern time, when expected to get the endorsement from the planned parenthood fund. Again, manchester, New Hampshire, 4 00 east coast cspan. Ve here on terry in warren, michigan, a republican caller. Your thoughts about donald trump today . Caller yeah. I thought donald trump is the of the bigus out mess were in right now. And i appreciate him. What specifically is the well, i guess we lost terry now. , so well move on jean in louisville, kentucky, on the line for independents. Gene. Ad, caller yes. I was talking about the 9 11 attacks. About it. Talking and the corporations knew about 9 11, news stations. Yearall knew about 9 11 a in advance and everything like that. Attacked. Them, byot attacked by alqaeda, you know what im saying, the president knew. They was flying planes in florida when jeb was governor, saying . What im then turned around bernie, ass independent, he running a democrat. Hillary, bill clinton put more black people in than bush jr. Republican caller from now, elaine, joins us. Caller hi wasst wanted to say i raised democrat and voted democrat. Voting straight republican ticket. Go donald trump all right. Thanks for calling. Line foraryland on the democrats. Go ahead, joan. Caller yes. Registered democrat all my life. But i am voting for donald trump. Why is that . Caller im voting republican. Trump . About donald caller well, because he tells it like it is. Of this political correctness. Its just boring. Getting ust anywhere. So we need to change. We need to change course. All right. For calling. Again, the numbers are on your screen. This article from the hill, Lindsay Graham, who recently dropped out of the race for the president ial nomination, Lindsay Graham is g. O. P. s twothe leading president ial candidates againsttand a chance democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton this fall. Hopeng Lindsay Graham, i we can give some momentum to someone other than senator cruz and mr. Trump. I think Hillary Clinton would clean their clock, graham told stationrolina news wlts, fox 19, on friday. Again, that from the hill. And Lindsay Graham, a former candidate for president. Regina on the line for republicans is with us now. Ahead. Caller okay. I wanna say, all my life i was a democrat. You need to turn your t. V. Virginia, so you dont get that delayed feedback. Caller okay. Um. Life, i was a democrat. My parents brought me up to be democrat. And this is what a lot of people are thinking. Youre competing with the on your t. V. If you turn that volume down, you can keep going. Caller you hear me now . Okay. This is what i want. Everybody, whether youre republican or independent. The biggest thing, youve been taught the wrong way. Youve been taught by your parents to run for someone youre black. Dont run for somebody because theyre white. Run for someone that can run this country the right way up there,at was donald trump said he was ignorant. Hes going to tell everybody not him. Te for all my life, i was a democrat. Now i am republican. Iu can tell donald trump that said, from hampton, virginia, thata wants to be a person will be a spokesperson for him. Ill tell everybody the same thing. Is on track what he says is real. And everybody else is afraid to what donald trump is saying. I am sick of politics clinton, because she is a nice person. We dont need that anymore. A strong person like donald trump hes going to kick ass. To say. s what i want all right. Thanks for the call. Lets go to one more call. Stephen in farmington, connecticut, on the republican line. Youll get the last chance to in here today. Go ahead, stephen. Caller great. Well, this country has been ran by a bunch of idiots, to be honest with you. Thats the way i feel. Businessman. Is a this country needs to be ran like a business, believe it or not. Vote and everybody i knows vote. Thanks for the call, stephen. Donald trump will be the subject of a debate in the british house commons coming up on monday, january 18. And well carry that live, as the british house of commons holds a debate on barring republican president ial candidate donald trump from the united kingdom, following his barring muslims from the u. S. Well have that for you live, 1 january 18, 1 11 30 a. M. Eastern time here on cspan. To come tonight, more of our road to the white house coverage. The republican president ial candidates who appeared today at the Jack Kemp Forum in columbia, south carolina. 4 00hen tomorrow, at eastern time, our live coverage continues with Hillary Clinton, the she receives endorsement of planned parenthood. Thats live sunday, 4 00 p. M. From manchester, New Hampshire. As our road to the white house coverage continues. To play for you one of the president ial candidates who appeared earlier in columbia, south carolina, at the kemp forum, governor andas republican president [laughter] [applause] a quick announcement, there are seats in the front. If you are standing on the side, come up there are plenty of seats. Thank you. All of the seats on the front row. If you would please matriculate to the front of the audience, you will find a place. Otherwise, you can stand in the back and see our pearly whites. You want to talk about mike . We have to bring out the next guy, which is good news because i have an affinity for seven fellas. We have the governor of arkansas, president candidate, mike huckabee. Come join us. [applause] huckabee thank you. I was looking back over the work that you have done, and i love the title of one of your books hope, the higher ground. , why dont you talk about the road to recovery for those of us who have had to go through poverty. Governor huckabee i grew up in poverty. I understand what is like to grow up poor. I find it amazing what people talk about poor people as though people are poor because they want to be. Ive often said, if you grew up poor, i guarantee that you did not want to grow up that way. You wanted to grep with the same kind of nice clothes and other kids had. You never wanted people to make fun of your shoes or the fact that you had two pairs of jeans and nothing more. You did not enjoy that. You did not enjoy when your friends would talk about they went on vacation, and you never did. There were a lot of things. I did not grow up resentful. I grow optimistic and hopeful that, in america, there would still be the opportunity to get an education, work hard, and one day, enjoy more than i grew up enjoying. I believe that there is an Incredible Opportunity for us in this country to reclaim the spirit of america where people are rewarded for their work. When that happens, and we give them opportunity, we will see the growth of not just our economy, but of people being able to move upwardly. But i just think, sometimes the , Government Policies that we created are created by people who never spent a day poor. They dont understand. It is one of the reasons we need a new vision, a new approach, and is why i am so very delighted to be with the two of you today to talk about it. Speaker ryan let me ask you this. Given this arrogance, what is the biggest thing that people miss what we talk about fighting poverty . What is the biggest thing that we miss . Governor huckabee there is an industry of poverty built around the notion that, if we have organizations and advocacy groups, that will resolve poverty. We started the war on poverty in we spent over 2 trillion and 1965. The poverty rate is pretty much the same as it was 50 years ago. 13 . We did not really do much to move the needle. Part of the reason is because we did not attack some of the fundamental purposes and reasons that people cannot get out of the hole. When i was governor, and we reformed welfare back in the mid we were given a lot of 1990s, flexibility as to how we did it. It worked because we knew our demographics, our people. We knew that half of the people, to get them into work, the transition, that is the challenge. We did it. Here is how. Ill make this as brief as possible, but a lot of the programs are designed this way. If you are single mom and able to get wic, food stamps, medicaid, section eight housing, maybe in some states, transportation assistance there are a host of benefits that can be tapped into. Many of them are necessary for those families to survive, to put food on the table, and some still have a hard time. But, if that parent goes to work , and works at the only job for which they are qualified, which is probably a minimum wage job, and they work enough they will , work themselves right up to the threshold at which those programs disappear. What is it happening, rather than work, getting them ahead, work actually could totally impoverish their families whether kids have not enough though, zero health care, no roof over their head. People say i have heard it put this way, welfare mothers ought to get out and work. I think, those welfare mothers are a lot smarter than the idiots in government who designed the program that punishes them for trying. What has to happen is a sliding scale so that you do not lose , all of your benefits. Cant and be a responsible parent. Speaker ryan i agree. I think that is what we call a poverty trap, which is a big tax against work. The administration has trapped more people in poverty thinking that if we treat the symptoms of poverty than the job is done, when all we are doing is trapping people in poverty. The challenge with sliding the scale down is each person is different. Each person has different benefits and different situations, so it is hard to come up with a onesizefitsall solution. How do you get at that at the human, individual level so that you can always, in every persons instance, make work pay . How do you get that poverty trap to actually make it work . Governor huckabee let me offer tended to suggestions. One is something we have done at the that could be at the congressional level. Let these programs be managed at the state level. Create a broad perspective, but let the governors manage it. I am biased and im prejudice, but governors have to balance their budgets. They are close to their people. They will be held accountable for their results. They are going to be in a position to know what will work in their state. Massachusetts and arkansas are very different. When his world. One has a high level of higher educated people, another state may not. You have to let the programs be administered, and the details of the design be done as opposed to as close to the people as possible. A Little Something called the 10th amendment, and i think it is the purpose for being in the constitution. That is one thing. The second thing. The reason i am a strong tax, t for the fair it is a tax at the point of consumption, not productivity. Our tax system defies common sense. If people were, we punish them by taxing their work. If they say, we punish them by taxing their savings. If they make a good investment, we punish them by taxing investment, income, whether it is dividends or even a capital gain. And, we tax them for being good stewards of their resources because we tax their inheritance. If people pay tax at the point of consumption, they would control what they pay. Which is a tax on consumption, which has an underlying principle of also untaxing the poor with a provision called the prethey, which i will not into the publications of that, heres what it does people at the bottom third of the economy are those who benefit the most. If a person works today for eight hours, and cannot really make it on that because they are working at the factory, busting it, but cannot make it, and says, i will work double shifts, help my daughter through college. If you work a 16 hour day, you would think you would make a double paycheck, but you dont. Because, you will be bumped into a new tax bracket. The government will get as much of your second shift as you do. The incentive is work as little as possible. You need to get a double paycheck. Under the fair tax, if you work you get it. It is a powerful unlocking of the economy and in a big macro sense you bring capital back , into the United States that has been part of offshore. I think that would boost the economy. That would help us to deal with the 5 Million Manufacturing jobs that we have lost 60,000 plants , have closed since the year of 2000. We are talking about putting nowwe are talking about putting, rocket fuel in the economy which is the only thing that solves the economy giving people jobs that pay enough money for them to survive and succeed. [applause] speaker ryan you see the fair tax having a positive impact on tax aversion. Would you suggest that you would also eliminate the irs . Governor huckabee it is the only plan that eliminates the irs. [applause] governor huckabee look, im pretty blunt. I think it is a rogue entity. I think it is a criminal enterprise. The mafia has more honor than the irs. Let me be honest and tell you why in our system of , jurisprudence, we are innocent until proven guilty. Beyond are his mold out by a jury of our peers, and the perception of innocence is ours. The burden of proof is on the accuser. , the government. The iris is the only entity in government in which the burden of proof is on the taxpayer. The presumption is a presumption of guilt, not innocence. We are find and targeted at the beginning of the process, not the end. If we are in fact found innocent, all we get is our money back. If we are found guilty, we lose our money, interest, and we could go to jail. I must our lois lerner and you can erase all of your emails and a document your homework and it does not matter. [applause] speaker ryan i could spend 10 minutes going into the new controls that we put on the irs, and all the strings and riders we did, but i will not spend five minutes doing that. [applause] the president said that economic inequality is the defining challenge of our time. Do you think focusing on inequality is the way to fight poverty . Governor huckabee focusing on the solution is the way to make it work. The solution is making an environment where jobs are brought back to the United States. We used to make things in this country. Now we make up things we designed the iphone, but it is made in china. Of course this, because we tax capital and labor. Heres what that means. If we tax capital and labor we , tax the people building something and the parts and pieces that they are building it with. If they make the same product in china, they do not tax capital and labor for items of export. They are not taxed as they are built. We do not tax at import. The result is there is a 22 embedded cost in what we make in this Country First what is made in china, mexico, or indonesia. There is no wonder that prices in america for many things are for manufacturing things are more expensive because it is an hurriedly more expensive, we embed the tax. The fair tax takes that tax out. So, you pay that point of consumption. You build this chair in the carolinas where we used to build a lot of furniture 22 of it is , taxed. If you build it in china, it has a 22 advantage. Pass the fair tax for you pay at consumption both chairs are , untaxed until they are purchased. Now, you have an equal marketplace. If you account for cheaper labor costs, america is back in business making things. That is what built the of middleclass in this country. We will never be a great middle class without making things again. [applause] senator scott governor, i spent some time on your website looking at how you would eradicate poverty. One of the things i think you said, at least i have read, is that family seems to be the Building Block of civilization. And about family formation its importance on eradicating poverty. Governor huckabee i think people think that if we had different government programs, it would do it. This is the simplest way to do it. A child born into a family were were both mother and father have High School Education and are gainfully employed and , remain together in a monogamous marriage and our partners for life the three things 88 chance that they will not spend a day in poverty. On the other hand, if a child grows up in a singleparent family where one or more parent has no college education, the less than a High School Education and are chronically unemployed, the child will likely spend 91 of his or her growing up in poverty. The reversal is genetic. Some of the say that marriage matters, family matters,s table marriages and Families Matter it sounds like we are coming at it from trying to tell people how to live. It is an economic issue. You want to eliminate poverty . We can eliminate most of it by instilling in people that there is a virtue. I know that is a politically incorrect word, but it is based on what this country was founded on. Our writes,t somes some things are good and wholesome, and virtuous. We should elevate them and uphold them. We live in a culture where we uphold now that a person does not need marriage to have a child, that fathers are incidental to a strong growing up. Thats nonsense. We have to be honest. Whether it is politically incorrect or not, we need to say, that is crazy. Speaker ryan the reason we speak about family and marriage is because that is a beautiful support for that person, to teach them, to connect them, and equip them with the skills that when they grow up they have the tools to succeed. That is missing in so many parts. This is not something that just hits people of different income groups whether it is heroin, drugs, alcohol, it is breaking families. You have this deep history as a pastor, a man of faith, and in so many ways, there is this belief and notion that government needs to occupy the space in society that is between ourselves and government which is really where community and faith ought to occupy. We are losing that. We are losing the systems especially for people that may be suffering from a problem. Especially a person who does not have a family, where they have estranged themselves and their family because of an addiction or another problem. Give me a sense of how you think faith plays into this and how we take on this arrogant idea that government needs to crowd them out. In a sense where a person does not have a family, how to be get them connected with the person, and how does faith play a role . Governor huckabee part of the reason i got into politics was because i wanted to take the values and insights that i learned from the experience into the political arena. I did not leave my faith behind. I brought it with me. I never exchanged the capitol dome for the steeple. We have made the huge mistake in this country of thinking that we should somehow create this huge separation between faith and government. The truth is we cannot function as a society when we divorced the sense of our fundamental judeochristian values as the foundation of our society for this reason. We cant. [applause] governor huckabee we were designed, as a country, because our founders understood that the best government we will ever have is not the government that we elect, it is selfgovernment. It is when we govern ourselves to do what is right. When we dont hit people, lie to people. Cheat antifraud people. And when we do that we dont , need a lot of government over us managing our behavior. Dont fall into selfgovernment, and more government. I always said to the small government folks and i am one of them the best way to have a small government is to have bigger hearted people who govern themselves. The more people who are selfcontained, moral, virtuous people, following their faith i know that if you dont catch me doing something and the president doesnt catch me do the press does not catch me doing something, he still does. Im more worried about his evaluation of me then i am yours. His has eternal consequences, yours does not. The worst you can do to me is not elect me. Im concerned about his evaluation. Heres my point. Lets quit apologizing for being a country in which we have to be people that understand our basic selfcentered nature. The bible would call that the sin nature. Lets quit apologizing. Even our branches of government were created because our founders understood our frailty. They knew if there is one branch of government really get too big, too powerful, it would get correct and run all over people. They created three branches and one would oversee the other two. It was checks and balances. That was the whole point of three branches of government. It is a brilliant system. But it was designed on this notion that we cannot be left to ourselves we have to ultimately , answer to each other, and accountability and , ultimately, god. That is not something we should be ashamed of. That is who we are. And if we are not that we fail. [applause] senator scott governor, we are very quickly running out of time. We have about four minutes left. You started off in sales and advertising, you became a pastor. My mother wanted a pastor, but she got a politician. She has not been happy sense. You finished being a governor. As governor, you did some radical things on sentencing reform. On welfare to work. Can you talk about the policies at the state level that would free, or set captives free, who are mired in poverty . Governor huckabee helping people understand the education is a critical ticket to avoiding poverty. So is marriage, a stable marriage, but that matters. Family matters. Make it harder to get a divorce, not easier. It is easier to get out of a contract for a used car in most states than it is to get out of the marriage. It is easier to get out of marriage than it is to get out of the contract for a used car. Get it right. Make it a little tougher to get in and even tougher to get out. I think that is a part of it. In the criminal justice system, our presenter used to say, and i thought it was so brilliant, and i quoted often, is what helped us change a lot of our policies in the state, we lack of a lot of people that we are mad at, rather than the ones we are really afraid of