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There is a stark difference between texas parents weekend where the Main Attraction is the tailgating and the weekend here where the Main Attraction is a panel on midterm elections. You gotta love it. I have the allstar team with me. The starting lineup here are m. V. P. s so we are happy to dive into this topic tonight. I will start with amy here. Alum. Give us a little bit of overview of whats at stake in the midterm elections in your opinion. I will keep anybody in suspense. Yes, its the most important election of our lifetime. There is a lot at stake here in november. Elections are 31 days away. Voters are voting now. We do have on the ballot a senate that is literally within the margin. House that could flip to a different party. You have governors races across the country not to mention 88 out of 90 state legislative chambers on the ballot and we arent even talking about municipal elections. We have been in an environment where some will argue whats the Supreme Court deciding that affects us on the policy front. We have had democracy on the ballot in several primary races. There is infrastructure within the Republican Party we have experts on the panel who have spoken a great deal about. Where is the direction . Is it a post trump era . We have seen a president whose numbers are not where his party would like them to be. A fragile economy and where is our place in the world as we see major conflicts across the globe and decisions being made by World Leaders that will affect us in many ways. Then the fragility of how a major hurricane can decimate one of our state in days and how that had an impact. Theres a lot on the ballot, a lot of decisions being made and a lot at stake. A lot of what decisions are being made on behalf of citizens in their best interest in this environment. With 31 days to go, a lot can happen. Amy mentioned the importance of the president s Approval Rating and the impact that can have on the election. As you cover him, where does that number need to be in order for democrats to be successful in the midterms and what are your observations from your post at the white house . The observations thus far are the number is not anywhere near where it needs to be. To the point where we have seen some Ripple Effect including candidates may not want to appear with the president when he is traveling to their district which is something that i dont think white house really expected probably. You also have democrats on the hill and candidates that tend to waiver when you asked them if he should run for reelection. The direct impact on the midterms is when you have issues like inflation and the economic woes and high gas prices, that will start to lower but that directly impacts people. Those are issues that you can feel on a daytoday basis. History shows that voters tend to associate that even its not directly a result of the administrations policies, they put the blame on the person empowered. Thats joe biden right now. As those issues persist, its going to have a direct connection to his low Approval Rating at this time and youre going to see people not only associate that with President Biden but other democrats as well. That is causing anxiety in these pivotal elections. Our colleagues touched on this in nevada recently where they followed a Grassroots Coalition as they went doortodoor and not on different voters who initially the white house hope support democrats and the administration after the roe v. Wade decision and even that group that democrats head years for years relied on very much was saying the issue that matters to me right now and the thing i am most disappointed with when it comes to the president is the economy and inflation. It casts a shadow over other issues. All of those are connected to the low Approval Rating and there is little doubt that its going to raise significantly before the election. Anita, want to bring you win because you have a police and politico on the issue of abortion and how democrats have been able to use that issue with some success so far and that republicans are on the defensive and not sure how to respond. Candidates are running ads on that issue. What is your take on the issue of abortion in this election and whether its going to be motivating for women voters on the Democratic Party . We did see it is a motivating factor for democrats and for women. We saw a male voters or wouldbe Voters Register more after the Supreme Court decision this summer. We saw a lot of enthusiasm by democrats. They are using it as something to get people to the polls. What we have seen is that its not quite what it was the summer. It is gone down a little bit. It is one of the factors. When he talked to some of the people, they are talking about the economy. Theyre talking about donald trump. A variety of issues. You mentioned the interesting story we had today and that story by one of my colleagues basically democrats are using this issue inhouse races across the country. They put 25 million into ads opposing republicans who are in different places on abortion but they are using this issue to say dont vote for republicans. Even the republicans dont want to talk about this, they want to talk about immigration and the economy and crime, they have had to in some cases fight back and say pushback on this particular issue. They dont want to waste their money and their time talking about abortion, if they dont talk about it, that is letting democrats talk about it. They are in a catch 22. What we have seen is that mostly republicans are not talking about it but its interesting that they have found that they have to do it in some places. In some cases, they are feeling the heat and theyve had to fight back. Shoe and also the white houses messaging on this issue has been interesting to watch. I reported on a story that when the actual decision came out, i went to new orleans. If you notice, it is clear that the president himself has not always been comfortable talking about this issue. That is clear even from his days in the senate. He has changed and his policy positions have changed. But i thought its interesting that number one, there is still some criticism about the extent to which the white house and the president is leaning into this issue and being blunt about the ramifications of it. Specifically even mentioning the word abortion. When i talked administration officials, the strategy was it wasnt just going to be galvanizing women, it was going to be galvanizing young voters are voters who worry about how this Supreme Court decision might impact privacy, gay marriage, and xrays marriage. Mixed race rich. This is something to watch for especially as momentum is starting to dwindle. We havent yet mentioned the word trunk. Jonathan, the trump factor. Your timing is impeccable as always. Not just because you are my wife. Its great to be here with you guys. I am late because i was taking the car up connecticut avenue with Maggie Haberman my colleague who has a new book out. She was going to assigning. She was going to politics and prose which is a very good bookstore. We were talking about the former president in the car and since 1934, there have only been two midterm elections where the party in power picked up seats in both chambers of congress. One was at the height of the depression. The other was 2002 george w. Bush in the months after 9 11 and the lead up to the iraq war. Two times that were extraordinary. Almost always, the party that is out of power gained seats in the midterm elections because there tends to be a backlash or at least an itch with the party in power. What makes this midterm so interesting, i dont think its on the same level as 1934. Obviously, we have not had an event at the level of 9000 9 11. We have roe v. Wade, transformational decision that came down. Another is the former president. The fact that you have a polarizing former president who is still front and center has along with the abortion issue allowed democrats to at least make this something less of a referendum. And more of a choice. By making it more of a choice, you limit the judgment on yourself. Thats what democrats have done to some effect is they have said maybe you dont like the price at the pump or the president that much, but this is the alternative over here. Ending legal abortion in america and still being beholden to a president who you just voted out of the white house. That has given democrats at least some hope not to have good midterm, but a less bad midterm. The last thing i will say is, and this is tied to trump, the other thing that will help emma kratz beyond that will help emma kratz beyond the former president and abortion, President Trump elevated a list of replacement level type folks. That is being kind in some cases. Ask Mitch Mcconnell his view i dont think its going to help them in the house necessarily in the senate, republicans could have gained five senate seats. Instead, they are struggling to find one pickup then hold onto pennsylvania and get a one seat majority. That is a long start from the beginning of the year when they were recruiting all of these governors to run senate. All of which turned them down. That gets back to the heart of your question which is the trump factor which looms over the gop so much and his endorsement shaped so many of these primaries his endorsement has left them with candidates that are lackluster at best. Amy let me ask you. You will have done an interesting new poll of Younger Voters. Tell us some of the highlights of what you have found and that gets back to the heart of your question which is the trump factor. His endorsement shape so many of the primaries and they left him with candidates today that are lackluster at best any levy ask you it is all about Younger Voters. You did a poll of Younger Voters tell us a highlight of what you found. And how they are approaching the election and politics in general. Is interesting i enjoyed the project. There are materials out there on our website you can learn more. Theres a lot of assumptions about this age group between 18 and 35. Some of it is sobering Young Americans are dissatisfied with their democracy. Young americans believe politics is controlled by powerful unaccountable forces. And they are concerned about the world of the Supreme Court. When they think the Supreme Court is one of our prominent policymakers yet to go back to government 101 and ask the questions of what is happening. Young americans say that their lives have been shaped by gun violence in the pandemic. You can see these factors but they also put trust into community leaders. Not policy leaders teachers were the highest and most respected for them. But there is hope as well they think that voting is an important part of what they should be doing. They think ways that they can communicate on issues is important. Another thing i think is the most exciting that i want to explore further, this group thinks they can come together and help solve these problems. For us, it is how do you motivate that since and feeling in an election they are skeptical about but it is social media as well. They see it as something you can use as an organizing tool and they see the dangers about it as well. They are aware of the challenges of this information and what is out there. My question is how you get individuals who distrust the system to be part of the system. But there is a thought that they think they can fix these issues. Theres a closeness in this age group rather than in other age groups but another thing that was sobering going back to your point is they care about the economy if the economy is front and center it impacts their decision to vote. I encourage you to look at more but it is a lot of information driving how they will choose in this election. We will take questions toward the end of this panel so start thinking of your questions. One thing that broke through the summer were the hearings on january 6. Give us a sense and we will have one more televised hearing next week give us a sense of the impact of those hearings politically speaking and when you think we will come out of the hearings . They announced there will be another hearing on thursday they do not know who will be testifying or what it will look like we think it is the last hearing but we are not sure. They could come up with more hearings and testimony before the election. We are expecting to see a report or referral to the department of justice which i did not think will happen before the election day. People who are really remit to some of those hearings that we heard the last few months at think there are people that are even in trance world that were surprised by those pieces. I think its really telling when you put it altogether and he saw the videos they put all together and testimony from these young staffers who came in the Trump White House who decided to seek speak up because that is the issue. And i was fixated on what was happening in the white house at that day. I dont know how that translates politically because it is trump. If youre thinking about who devote most everyone has made up your mind on donald trump. I dont know if thats going to change anyones mind. The people that are that everybody is after are the independents they go back and forth they do not know what to do they may not vote on put him aside and that aside they are looking at things that impact them. Youre looking to find people that the hearings resonate with them because you do get a Bigger Picture you have before. Capitol hill impacted them that day and they learned a lot from that. So we will have to see what the outcome of that will be. We will not have the results before the election but i dont think its about what the report says. Its going to be what you feel about the impeachment and january 6. Jonathan that may bring you in here you were at the capitol january 6 and he wrote a book about your experience from that day. There is a story in their that may be nice for this Panel Discussion when you think about trump and mcconnell we mention him a couple times and this notion of republicans at the time thinking that jan 6 was probably the end of trump. Thank you for the very subtle promo for the book. Amazon bars barnes noble you can still get a signed copy there. I would appreciate that. That was a not settle lug. Decease and the cspan cameras are here. Watching it. Thank you cspan. The sixth was effectively a 2021 version of how it was in 2016. There was a thought at the highest levels of the Republican Party of this is got to be it there is no way he can survive this one. And that is how we solved the comments think that was the case with jan six january 6. He refused to concede a violent mob to storm the capitol. Surely the American People will not tolerate that and we will be consigned to the ash heap of American History but not so fast. This goes to the heart of the Republican Leadership and though leaders are bound to their followers its not more complicated than that. If Kevin Mccarthy thought that donald trump did not have the clout with Republican Voters he would say donald who . He would forget about him. But they do not want to lose a primary. We have a situation where the leadership of one of our two major parties is completely contemptuous of the leader of the party while the ranking file moderates largely admires leader. I cannot believe a time in history where we had that divide. That is not sustainable. I think if trump is not in 24 i think it will cause major issues. The night of the six after the congress reconvened that evacuated with the senate and came back with the senate when we were back in the chamber that night to ratify the results in the capitol was a mess. It was filthy there was dirt on the floors there was blood everywhere and trash it was a total disgrace. Late that night, after the senate finished voting i was in the capitol trying to catch people as they left. I know Mitch Mcconnell use of at the capitol that night he elevated at around 1 00 in the morning i stood down there by the off chance he could not left yet. At about one and the morning, on the night of january 6 he came down elevator am he grabbed me first because he was looking for intelligence he evacuated at a nearby military base and was not aware of the politics taking lace. Place. He was curious about the 25th amendment and was wondering if the cabinet was trying to force trump from office. They said where you hearing about the 25th amendment . I shouldve said think of yourself own and call your wife because she is in the has better insight than i would and did not have that fast reflex. And then i passed on what i heard from intel and chatter from capital but i asked him a question i said how did it feel . Because the previous two days he could see he lost his two runoff elections on the fifth and the six is when the capitol was ransacked a tough day back to back to work Mitch Mcconnell at the office. I said how you feel . Is said i feel exorbitant. Exhilarated. I said how so . He said trump put a gun to his head and he pulled the trigger that now he is totally at that point mcconnell was grappling the politics of what happened that day he was thinking there is no way trump can survive this so this is my liberation day. I have three judges on the court with trump i got in tax cut it was humiliating but its over now i got what i wanted from him and now he is gone forever we can move on as a party. That was a mentality that night of the senate. As we sit here a month from the midterm elections, Mitch Mcconnell may fail to regain the majority which he desperately wants because donald trump did not lose his clout he remained the key victor in the party and that these candidates and the majority once again. I know this is a midterm panel but we also need to talk about 2020 four. 2024. The question comes up is what is your thinking about and what is in his head . Who would tap them on the shoulder and say give me the keys . He hasnt taken the official step of filing the paperwork. Theres regulations with that but the message the white house has put out is that he is fully intent on running again. They want that out there and they know that that would not signal too much positivity for bens if you say youre not going to run for reelection before the midterms. I dont know we will get an announcement before the not only are they putting out that message but youre seeing other signs the white house is putting resources of the dnc try to get it revved up. We heard on the effect that he already has meetings with q sanders and people he thought might be contenders in the election. With Bernie Sanders as well after bernie made it clear he will not run again. So from the people ive talked to, you can expect an official announcement after the election next year. One of the more influential people in this is joe biden. He will check in with his family he is 79 years old and consulting with them about his future. The thing with the president and the white house it is so at times frustrated to get these questions what they will often site is this is somebody that is wanted this job for a while is of the first time he ran for president and also commented them, this is the person who already beat trump. Subject to manning get questions of if you will step down will that be for the good of the party . Those whispers have grown louder from Democratic Partys saying we should open a new opportunity for a new generation to come in and galvanized the younger and make spaceport voters. In the president is saying we just got here. We just passed out his legislation over the summer and we already beat the guy who will likely be the contingent. Seven is the key point. Theres him remarkable could see on biden and trump. There is a game of chicken we are getting playing out in slow motion. Dot on rationale for biden to run again is dependent on if trump is nominated. Biden would say of ib beat him once i can beat him again and we cannot risk the primary with democracy itself on the line. If trump is not a candidate or nominee, i think it is a tougher sell for biden because a party will say we need you to be trump it is like the emergency guy in 2020. But why will we nominate someone that is 82 if trump is going to be on the ballot. And you wonder if biden was doing himself favors if he said i will be rich. You wonder why you get these questions from people now. The other note on trump, if you read the stories that he made to florida, standing next to a certain governor there it was interesting and different comments. It was focused on hurricane recovery but if you look at the last few weeks with the flying of migrants to democratic strongholds and they get them back at him for that as well as their comments next to each other during that speech was interesting to watch as well. What are the factors that trump will be waiting right now on his decision to run again . You didnt ask me is he going to run . It is a good thing you did it did it for years of covering donald trump and i will never be able to predict what he is doing but the last few weeks before january 6 there were a lot of people that were still his advisors saying he may not do it. He wants to continue to be a force he wanted the attention and to matter and to continue to matter and they were saying he may not do it. That is not what they are saying now. He is wanting to run it may be part of the biden tromp thing trump thing. That he is had to that there are people that have said to him his advisors dont do it before the midterms. At times its hard to tell if its a fleeting moment where one day he things about something and then it is gone but he thought about announcing before the midterms and i think that will not happen for a lot of reasons that would not be good for his party. I think he has a lot of factors political factors and a lot of investigations going on right now. Those not keeping track, he has new york city criminal investigation, there is new york state investigation that we saw, the attorney general filed suit about. Theres the investigation in georgia into what he would do to try to change the Election Results and we have seen most lightly lately this issue with the department of justice and classified document he took and did he take them all has he returned about. Return them all. Theres a lot going on in his family he did not mention the january 6 hearings as well. He has a lot of factors going on with his family, business, himself and all of those will be a factor. It is hard for him to resist though. He wants to show he can win again he wants to matter. I never could imagine going back to Mitch Mcconnell and everybody thinking they all thought it was over. I never would have believed we would be two years in and not only is he still a factor, he is the factor. He is the leader of his party. So i will not place any bets on it but he does want to running and he is talking about running and he is thinking about when he wants to make the announcement. There are factors out there politically and with his family. Does the decision to rhyme help not on the legal front but politically the investigations it is easier for him to say coming after for political reasons of your candidate versus not candidate. That is the thing he has done with great success. Hes taking everything hes gotten, all the attacks and turned it into a political win. He turned the impeachments into a witch hunt. He will use that for his benefit politically that does not help them with whatever consequences he faces but he is already doing it. Anyone who has been to a trump rally maybe none of you have it up into many, that is the speech. It continues to be the speech. It was a speech before he was elected and the people after him. It was for four years and it continues to be the speech of look at whether trying to do it resonates with voters and people across the country. Voters across the country think that people are after him and politicians are after him and they are doing these things because they do not like it it is partisan he will use this and he is using this. You just mentioned two things. I am surprised when i go back through and read the politics from republicans in congress who thought he would fade away after january 6. And support will be gone. If you been to a trump rally or talk to these voters there is a sense of loyalty to trump and not necessarily the gop. I was outside the capitol on january 6 interviewing a couple they had been identified as independent prior to the trump administration. I asked them what they will do then certified the boat and they said i will leave vote and they said i believe the Party Immediately and that is one anecdote but that is the sentiment ive heard over and over again. It surprises me the day was extraordinary in terms of what happened but im surprised when i go back and read statements thinking he would go away. Theres two factions of the Republican Party. This is interesting because trump does not want to it exist and oppose president ial world. President ial primaries is more like chess than checkers. But it speaks for wildly widely to we are our Party Politics are going in the country. When you see what is happening in these parties smaller amounts of people are identifying with parties and voting with primaries youre getting more extreme canada and that candidates and they are not happy when it comes to a general and to your point if these independence they are making decisions for people they did not bring to the table. A lot of people we have to look at this division between the party. If they will so quickly walk away is personality politics. Not to say democrats dont have their own challenges in their party but the question is, if youre looking at this you do not have a lot of time. Theres a process and how you get on the ballots. Decisions will have to be made in a way but a lot of it is dependent on this personality and what light comes out of it. But its a concern on the National Level you saw a recruiting in the states and you saw congresswoman liz cheneys case is around 100,000 people deciding who will be the third candidate for the situation there are systemic issues at play as we decide who the candidates will be right in front of us in this election. We have time for your questions. We have a microphone here. Ok great. Any questions . We have one over here. And then one back there as well. Right over here. Im there i am been i am a freshman here at school. With midterms coming up so close you mentioned that many candidates are worried about being in the same location as President Biden since his Approval Ratings were not up to the democratic liking theres worries it will be reflected in midterms. And President Biden recently pardoned anyone with a federal offense for marijuana which was received well by the press and public. Let question would be do you think he is doing these actions on purpose to trying to clean up his image for his candidates and the Democratic Party as a whole . That is a great question. I was reporting on that recently. Like our product is the criticism with the Obama Administration and help one nod was that they were not focused on providing policy weans Justice ThomasJustice Thomas wings Student Loan Relief is something trying to give them direction as well. I would also say stay tuned on reporting in terms of the pardons im trying to clear up the impact of that. As saw a staff in 2017 out of 20,000 there were 92 involved in marijuana. Most of the cases are state and local rather than federal. Only because you said it was received well by the press. Democrats have a mobilization problem in midterm elections they are younger and more sporadic voters show up for nonpresident ial years. Student loan relief or marijuana yes, there is a political consideration that is being given and how this could help the party and the midterms get voters most more supportive of the democratic. And they talk about the most low gas prices. That is a thing people feel. The impact is a huge deal. If youre one of the candidate committees youre trying to figure out for the race, a lot of times you want to not like this national because if you sit there and think about how you see inflation as a local candidate you think about what things you can do on the local level. If youre sitting there and do not want to be attached to an administration that is making the challenges or a leadership like pelosi how do you localize that race and that is the challenge sometimes with midterm elections as well because there always nationalized in a president ial year but in the midterms it is how you change the narrative. Question over here. My name is bailey i am a sophomore and my question is do you think the recent roe v. Wade decision could split the democratic vote rather than incentivize it . Ive heard young voters say that democrats have had the presidency and senate and house and they cannot protect roe v. Wade. Ive heard a lot as well. We did our job you were supposed to do yours in that scenario. The bottom line is, it stood for a long time it was a Supreme Court decision now more than ever my argument to that would be this is why your state legislative race before. And your local races matter because decisions are made at the local level. As we move forward, if the republicans win back the house will want to do more natural abortion legislation but a lot of this for now is what will happen in state legislatures this is what matters. But it is a good question because if ive been doing everything right and you are asking me to vote it is where do you go from there . I would chime in and day say what we saw from younger people and mcgraths is that there are rightly or wrongly their they are blaming the president and administration for not doing more since then. We are are our executive actions we are the ones they want the easy sense of these expansive rules and regulations it is not whether he deserves it or not President Biden is getting that there. They are young will saying exactly what youre saying why are you not doing more now . We have time for one more question. I am samantha im a freshman studying clinical science my question was that we dealt with the party uniting behind the Single Person for the presidency specifically for those working for a major news outlet, do you think voters are wellinformed in the post trump era to go accurately on policies rather than presidency . How honest should i be with you . We have cameras here for cspan. Just between us. The American People as joe biden with they, god love him, they do not tend to follow the ins and outs of washington and the policy fights. They are not typically going into the polling place with white paper and the candidate positions. Some do. Have a Political Panel on a friday night. Some do. But most americans have busy lives or other interest and they are not that engaged on the policy. What they do tend to vote on is more impressionistic. And in terms of more they are feeling they are feeling their feeling. There is a quote that voters know when their shoe is starting to rub their foot. They have feelings about things sometimes that is why the right track wrong track question is problematic for democrats right now the question is america in the right direction or wrong direction . If you look at that now, it is grand in terms of the right direction grand the right direction is to people headed out there in the right direction is small. It is more of a feel are you discontent or content with the state of affairs more than it is an indepth grasp of policy issues. One thing thats changed over the years, we are seeing journalism people getting their news from likeminded places. They are only looking at social media and their feed are the people that think exactly what they think. So people are less educated on the policies because they only see the one particular side. The side they like. And that has really changed over in the last five years or so. That has made a big difference. I do not think people are as educated they may think they are because they are seeing something but i do not think they get the whole picture. And we end on the quick prediction . Give us your predictions on the Senate Division after the midterms. Anybody want to put a prediction on that . Oh my goodness i was with Hillary Clinton on the day that she lost and i know longer predict. I really dont know so i will not say. But if you talk to republicans right now, including its mcconnell, they are saying we may not get it. So i will go with that was not the case a while ago and i think it is a tossup. They only need one seat so it is so close and i really do not know but i will when you back to her leaders who are telling people to be very cautious. If you said that the democrats had a chance last year you would get laughed at almost. Nobody thought that was the case. So it does show in the past year how many concise events in the country whether it be the Supreme Court decision or were in ukraine which is a direct impact on the economy and it is the economy as well and this summer and what has happened in terms of the legislation that is testing on the hill. I do think it has started to dwindle a bit but over the summer it was increasing momentum and enthusiasm on in terms of the senate but the house is a different story. Give us a number. We are on a fascinating collision course between a call aside been you here so i will go there. But we are a fascinating collision between an increasingly parliament to lee version of politics. And people vote like they do in the u. K. It is team red or blue and we are on a collision between that increasing the reality of our countries politics red and blue tribalism with lackluster candidate that are saying it is not call them and treat yet. Candidates do still matter. And that is the case in senate races because they are better known and defined. People do not know who the house candidates are where they barely know and that is why this matters so much because it is not straight red or blue. Walkers biography and his performance does matter. It does matter still. Thats why democrats have a chance. The short answer to your session is, i think the band is basically 5248 and if you really President Biden out would say it is more like 519 i do not think there 5149. I did not think there is that Much Movement left. We are looking at 2. 5 states which are pennsylvania, nevada, and georgia. This time last week i would say it is the third state and now it is the house state half state. Republicans are sticking with them. My prediction is more about the process because i do not think we will know after the day after the election. And i think im sorry you guys will have to work for a couple weeks after. But this is my concern. Ivory would be remiss without saying it, we went through a National Election where the incumbent president challenged the result for how long. Will we have Little Fires Everywhere . Will there be places where candidates are not willing to it where we see more elections with razors than margins. So it could be messy after election day and im concerned about florida how will the displaced voters vote . There is so much going on about making sure people have access to voting and the votes are counted that is a big art of the conversation. The numbers that is my way to dodge the numbers but i am concerned about will not know and there may be romantic places. That is not ending on a high note. Happy friday all. I want to thank our panelists for being here and students and parents as well. And the dean for convening us as well on this fun friday night. [applause] the United Nations convenes a emergency meeting to discuss russias annexation on parts of ukrainian territory. 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