lives are lost in afghanistan. when we are there killing afghan civilians. in north ireland there's been numerous pro tests to bring troops home. what i propose is a gradual withdrawal and efficient. they didn't choose for britain to invade. afghan civilians despite karzai's plea they didn't ask for this to happen and we should preserve that and for our own moral good. thank you. >> thank you and i'd like to hear from one from wales. >> gentlemen, there? >> thank you mr. speaker. when we went to afghanistan we made a pledge to their government that we would rid them of this fascist regime. we would stop the tyranny may suffer every day. can we, with good conscious break that promise to them? no. i say we stay in there finish the job and then we bring our boys home. >> someone from the northeast of england. they' they're there. >> yes. thank you. i'm oscar from newcastle. i'm not a fan of war. i think the solution should be peace, but i don't think we should pull out until the job is done. it'll be currently disrespectful to the british men and women that have lost their lives. totally disrespectful if we pull out before the job is done. >> thank you. someone from london? wow a rich choice from london. young woman, there? >> i think i'd just like to say as soon as we entered afghanistan and sent troops there it became our moral responsibility to solve issues there whether we're doing it by war is still particularly not effective with over 300 soldiers having died from this. maybe we need to find an alternative or something that will work well. this our choice and we chose to under take that and it's our responsibility now to fulfill. >> thank you. we haven't had a southeast speaker so far in this debate. this young man here? >> recently i was, i have an interesting statement from the man that brought the russian troop home from afghanistan. he said the war could not be won and americans and british and they were flogging a dead horse. he cannot win. it's costing this country billions of pounds in a time that spending cuts are coming left, right and center. recently with elections the government said they'll do all they can to stop corruption and in province one of the deadliest parts of afghanistan over 100 soldiers have died and five hundred people - sorry, that's rubbish. that's a lot of soldiers and then they say the elections were success. in the days after pictures of people burning ballots and not counting them keep appearing. i don't think this is a success. they were barking up the wrong tree and this war can't go on draining our country and putting us in more deb and will cause us more trouble and will not get any any where. thank you. >> i'm looking for a female speaker from the southwest? >> yes. i think simple solution would be to let the troops do what they want to do. if they want to fight let them be there if they want to come home, then just let them come home. [applause] >> how about the west mid land's who's turn it is. the gentlemen there with gray suit and dark tie. [laughter] >> well, i believe there's no solution to this war and if there's no solution to the war what example are the troops give together us as young people? what makes this different than a playground fight? what happens there is few children decide to fight and they both get in trouble afterwards. that's what we're finding ourselves in. sill civilians are in trouble and our economy is in trouble so i think we should pull out. it's going know where. [applause] >> the young man here? let's hear you. i should mention people speaking from here, the microphones are not picking up very well. splendid. >> i think it's foolish and naive - sorry. i'm from the london of camden. i think it's foolish to suggest to withdrawal now or in the immediate future. the fact is we went in there and got clear aims i'll we're there and to make sure it's safe from terrorism and to protect our own national interest and, a few weeks ago the outgoing head of the armed forces said that if we were to disrupt the strategy we've got to withdrawal is for 2015 it would say to the taliban, we give up and su remember dern and would not be the right thing to do. one of the saving graces that i thought was ill fought through was to preserve spending for the forces in afghanistan. so i think to withdrawal now or in 2012 would not be a betrayal of the people we need to protect there but the betrayal of the lives we lost. we can't see this is a drain on financials it's a necessary and just cause. [applause] >> very fluent speech. some people look as they are about to explode and i fully understand. the young woman here, indeed? >> bridget. berlin. mr. speaker if we pull out afghanistan will not disable us and afghanistan forces cannot protect citizens on their own. it would lead to a taliban surge and we cannot afford to let them believe they can win. especially this would result in more terrorism attacks as a result of pulling our troops out of afghanistan. >> thank you. right? what about the young man, there? >> from london. speaking to young people, my constituency. about 25,000. i'm spoke together a number of them. obviously not that many thousand. passionately they believe the death of 341 uk troops, a number guaranteed to rise is not worth the risk, when there's other, you know, in different countries sich as zimbabwe there's such terror going on and in a week any of you know that there's about the equivalent of one each week in zimbabwe. you're talking about terrorism but why go in afghanistan when another terrorist attack is going to just as likely occur in zimbabwe or north pakistan. >> i'll take a couple of more. sorry to tell the boys but the fact is the girls are a bit under represented. the young woman with the pink top. >> i present west su fuk in the southeast. this was a response to 9/11. it was to the purpose to remove the regime. considering the lack of results and justification of the war is a mission without hope and development that's going know where. western forces face a going insurgency and innocent people should not be losing their lives and the reasons we entered is ridiculous. and there are no nuclear weapons at all. why are we losing our men to a lie when taxes we're use aring expensive and not working and as a result of this expensive war we're raising our fees? >> yorkshire. yes? okay. >> the women at the end there with the ginger hair. red hair. >> it's dyed. may i just remind everyone here the people going out to fight in afghanistan know full well they may lose their lives and their families as well and it's a risk they're willing to take for our country. >> thank you. well, the gentlemen there with the pink tie. >> thank you mr. speaker. the war in afghanistan. i call upon you all now admit. do you know the nature orlando gin of this conflict? the people of our country don't. this generation, our generation has paid a lot and continue to pair for the errors of the previous. young people of this country, us, the future. we're here to pave a route and correct their wrongs. mr. jennings and spoke to 341 deaths of british troops. if we pull out now, that will be all for nothing. do you want to save those 341 good men and women died for no cause? we as britain have started job. we must finish it. we stand here now united in the place our mature counter-parts do. i don't urge you to vote yes or no but vote for what's best for humans manty, not for the country or the purse. thank you. [applause] >> i'm afraid it is time to conclude the debate. i've called 20 people and i know there are always people disappointed but there's a further debate to follow. please give a huge, warm enthusiastic welcome to miss emma chad wick. >> thank you, mr. speaker. thanks guys. and on behalf of all you people across the u.k., i'd like to say thank you to all of the troops out fighting for us today. [applause] the very fact we're face together day proves how much young people appreciate and knowledge our soldiers bravery. after all, we would not be the great nation we are today if it weren't for our heroic soldiers. now the taliban causes a real threat. not just in afghanistan but right here. right in the u.k. the taliban tentacles spread fast and the central thrust of terrorism is undoubt edly pushed from the afghan region. our brave men and women are fighting over there every day, risking life and limb and are doing so, so we don't have to. they're risking everything so i could arrive here on the tube. so we can walk down the street without worrying. they're devoting to keep us from danger and how much would this taliban get? how much stronger would they get if we stopped them now? would we give the taliban an advantage? history has taught us we have to fight for freedom and our safety and fight for what we believe in. and yes, i believe conflicts can be a backwards step towards peace and aness divide to protect what we hold. a time to remove yourself from situations and a time to tend struggle. is that time now? is it time for us to admit defeat in afghanistan? do we stop the heart-breaking death of our innocent civilians? these are death office mothers. father's. sons and a daughters and husbands and wives. not to mention the phenomenal amount of money this taxpayer turns into this war. 20 billion pounds is a massive bill. especially when we consider the recent government budget this money could be spent on hospitals. schools and transport. university fees. but can we afford to take the risk? can we put a price on our safety? our freedoms? every day, i turn on the news and i see pictures of men in armor, gun in and running cross the desert and honestly, it's heart-breaking, but i'm so thankful we're reminded and i'm so glad we don't forget the efforts because that's crime in itself. one thing is clear. the efforts that our troops are putting is ultimately commendable and even when faced with government funds they're willing to risk all to defend our great nation and so we'll be forever grateful. thank you, mr. speaker. [applause] >> emma, thank you for that memorable speech. this has perhaps understandably been the most highly charged debate so far that we've had, and the quality of contributions has been truly outstanding. so thank you each and everyone of you for taking part and doing so with such skill, so much confidence and sincerity. the youth parliament will consider the fifth and last motion of the day relating to transport and young people as printed on the order paper. to move the motion, i call mr. sing ba. amarvia? >> here we set. 300 ected representatives in the most historically influenced house. and still transportation problems remain. saved from the coalition spending cuts. mr. speaker i ask you this. why do my friends from age of 16-19 have free public transport while other does not? why do young people in scotland have a third of fare office my sisters in the southwest pay outrageous fees. at the end of the day young people getn education thus benefitting economy, but what happens when that young person is struggling for that transport to education. at the end of the day that person does not get a result of a the result and it does not benefit our economy. lady in nikon stitch wen si said young people should pay like everyone else? why are they different? young people have a lower minimum wage and young people by law must work shorter hours and we need cheaper transport. they're starting a full-time education to be leaders and that's why we need cheaper transportation. lady of the age of 567, has a freedom of owning a car. safety net of the life savings and plus, she's entitled to free, not subsidized free public transport. my fellow members of the parliament we're in a recession. we do not want free public transport but what we need is subsidized fare for all those in full-time education. cheaper transport will enhance the prospect of all young people. such as those as potential athletes to go to local tracks to break records or scientists going to medical school to cure cancers or lawyers to go to college to break the chains of in justice. it's a three pound and 68 to get to the nearest college and back. there's 726 pounds. 726 pounds wasted. 626 pounds that could have been spent on books and equipment in the back pocket of thes but company. that's why we need cheaper transport. if we together on this friday afternoon fight and an achieve this simple objective of subsidizing public transport for all young people we surely have a better chance to increase education levels and job opportunities and life chances. let this campaign be a stepping phone for others and show what the united nation youth parliament is. do we want that little girl on the corner of north ireland or the young boy to be able to pay their transport fare hikes to be the future nurse or politician they've dreamed to be. 300 of you should declaring our time for cheaper transport has come and - united strength is stronger! [applause] >> thank you for that excellent contribution. i call miss whitney maye. [applause] >> thank you mr. speaker. we have a massive debt. a grand total of 43 billion pound as year and in it's current situation we cannot afford luxuries. it's a time to focus on key services. nhs, the forces to keep us safe and the schools to educate our young. in an ideal word i could agree that this would benefit all of us but realistically something has to give. this cannot be our, nhs that ensureed the health of our members of the uk. cancers effect one in three of us. heart and soul office families are ripped out by terrible diseases, but with a money for research and life saving equipment and operations more of these families can avoid the heartache of losing a loved one that's more important. neither can it be our forces that fight to keep our streets safe. armed forces risk their lives rev try day. it's more important to make sure they have sufficient equipment to keep themselves safe. now our education system that's key in ensuring our safety for young people. it's possible. [inaudible] it has meant other bigger cuts, but i believe it's the right choice. these young people are our teachers, lawyers and doctors. it's much more important they have sufficient education and our future is safe. i understand transport is incredible important but so is the education system forces and, nhs and they effect the whole of the uk. government should focus more on these than public transport. it's estimated 1.4 billion pounds is needed for the concession of travel. 1.4 billion with currently our debt, is this really feasible? in closing, would you rather save education and have a safe place to leave and a good health service or not have to pay your way to the cinema? thank you. >> a lot of people still standing. can i appeal again to people who have spoken obviously not to stand again. lots of people have not had the chance to talk. to maximize the number of contributors in the remaining minutes it would be great if everybody that did speak, spoke briefly. east mid lands. young man there indeed with the red tie? let's hear from you. >> difficult time with the economic downturn we're coming out of. young people find it hard to pay fors but fares for education. along side, this will make it even more difficult for young people to get an education. because of this there's a number of young people leaving country to go a broad for education. the result is we're losing our doctors and teachers and lawyers and we can't let it happen. these are institutions that make our country success. if we lose these young people to other places, they will get jobs there as well and we will miss out on all these talented young people in the country and this will bring our country back to it's knees again. we've seen how bad we've come out of the economic recession and we cannot afford another one. >> the northeast, please? >> finland. i want to say, this is about spending again transport to cities. i want to say what transport to cities. we have barely any transport to cities. do not penalize me because i want to learn. i'm a full-time student. do not penalize me because i want to give back to the community. i want to have a good career. because of this economy we think of the costs. but we're forgetting what we all couldn't. this economic downturn has nothing to do with young people so don't let the recession effect the young people. i think we really need to focus transport and the quality a universal system to this country. it would equal quality among young people for education and i think that's something the government would want. thank you. [applause] >> someone from london? yes, the young woman here. thank you. >> green witch in london. i'd like to say about the cuts as well. we're thinking where we're going to get the money to pay for subsidies but a lot of people have earned more money, don't pay as much taxes as they should because the taxes. perhaps looking to save money we should ask them to pay all their taxes as well. it's really important for everyone to get around to school they want to go to and places to learn new things or whether just be bore and not have anything to do after school. >> northern ireland? the young man with the striped shirt at the back. >> people, thank you. >> admirably. congratulated. time for wales. somebody that hasn't spoken from wales the woman there. indeed. >> personally, i think the fare hikes are reasonable and 15 and 20 is four pounds and to get from area to the college is three pounds on the train return. now we're in recession so they're asking how to cut back. pensioners get their travel free. why should they? i know people say the income is less than families, but their families can't afford to give their childrens but fair to go to cinema. my mother says great. but the price in my area would be just about the amount that i will learn to earn. >> that's very clear. young gentlemen, here? >> thank you. thank you, mr. speaker. everyone must face the burden in these cuts. we must all be in this together and young people cannot be exempt from this mr. speaker. it doesn't matter if we need a frees but pass or sub si takes. every person needs school, hospitals. needs police, needs to stay safe. and every young person deserves that in this country regardless of the fiscal situation. so, we cannot look upon young people'ss but subsidies as protection because it would not be fair that way. [applause] >> i'm looking in the direction of yorkshire? who's waiting to speak. what about the woman at the end with the brown jacket visibly looking around but i'm looking at her? >> it costs me and 8 pounds to get to and front college. now i have help from my parents so it's my grandmother that's elderly going to pay for me to go out and continue my education. >> thank you. west mid lands? what about the young man in the back with the light blue pull over? yes? >> my point is, why should the over 60's get free transport when young people have a social life? [laughter] [applause] we can't get to college. transport should not be a barrier for young people. thank you. >> okay. we need somebody from the southwest. who we have from the southwest. the young woman there? yes? >> thanks. >> not only do we pay for where we go. we also have to pay for our transport. we don't, even if you get a job you're on minimum wage so how are we expected to pay for all the things we do on our own? >> thank you. just before we take another speaker and i've been mentioning all day. people that are here to support you and i'd like to welcome very warmly and ask you to welcome. john press scotcopresscott. very warm welcome? [applause] john served for 40 years in the house of commons and you can take him as an example of someone who always spoke his mind. bluntly, robustly. very occasionally unprincipally but always in away that was a credit to him and the democratic process! [applause] john, thank you for being here and supporting the u.k. youth parliament. the east of england? yes, the woman waiving her and that looks quite beside herself. >> [inaudible] before i was fortunate enough to be on the east parliament on the youngest assembly and my main issue was transport. i continued there. i would campaign last year. and last year, my local area told me they were going to issue pass for young people free on all buses throughout my area because of cuts in budget, i've now seen it slip through n my fingers. this is not about me but young people. why should i pay 70 pounds for a discount pass? it's not fair if we're going to focus on the cart and say we can't focus on the cart how will we get done what the young people that represent the young people are supposed to get done. we should represent. we need to be realistic, but we can't ignore the issues that are prominent and we deserve reduced, fare hikes. >> thank you. young london is here and we always have one of these. >> we have a card that allows us to have free travel and buses on and on trains. it's crucial to access the education they need. because areas like me, educational areas are not run in certain areas and people need to be able to get around to have access to help their futures. high are we not giving them the opportunity to access the careers they want? why are we not allowing them to pursue their chosen career? [applause] >> thank you. very passionate contribution. someone from west mid land? >> yes, the woman there with the scarf. yes, indeed, please? >> i meant the young woman back there. no skip intended. please? >> i'm marion and basically, i don't get one thing. of 16 years you have to pay the same as an adult. we do not get the same privileges. purchases alcohol you have to be 18. you're not allowed to drive at 17 but however have to pay adult fare? that's unfair. >> how about yorkshire? somebody, please? yes? the gentlemen pointing at himself. please? >> i want to focus the issue back towards the rural area. that's what i feel is most strongest. i live in hairga and it's the biggest region in the u.k.. therefore we feel transport fares are unnoticed. i have to pay 700 pound as year to transport in my area. last year i owed 900 pounds. it's not progressive and it deeply effects young people and where you live depends on where you study and where you study depends on what jobs you have. most of my friends have to go to the doors that are schools tha academically good. [inaudible] need to make sure all young people don't have subsidized fares that they can't afford. >> somebody from the northwest? northwest? the young man here with the red tie? >> northwest. difficulties of maintaining second year education when the coalition has not offered a valid replacement for that? [applause] >> thank you. okay. again, it's time for somebody from wales if somebody from wales wishes to speak. yes? the gentlemen at the back, thank you? >> youth counsel. the question should be asked, should we cut the wages of thes but drivers and train drivers and people that make the machines rather than should we cut the money given to young people to pay for their travel? [applause] >> how about a young woman from north ireland. do we have such? we have somebody from northern ireland? you're not a young woman but you're welcome to speak. >> first, congratulations to conner morgan. very fact that he's here today shows the progress we've made in north ireland and transport first for young people be saved from spending cuts. i don't know how my more conservative people would include but in a perfect world this is protecting produce transport is an honor and a privilege but reduced transport fares are basic essentials for younger people to bear the brunt of these costs. [applause] >> thank you. what about the young woman right in the back row? >> kate from the southwest. how can you expect all young people to have subsidized transport when people in rural areas don't even have transport. certainly it's more important to have a reliable system for all young people before you can allow them to get on for free or cheap? >> thank you. >> how about someone from the southeast? young woman, here? >> i'm 13 so i'm quite young compared to most of you so i can still claim child's fare but i think it's completely unfair you get discount cards from the age of 16 onwards that you can't by most and you still pay if you don't have student rail card you still have to pay the adult price from 16 and up. that means i've only got two more years of claiming a child's fare. are you seriously going to tell me i have to pay an adult fare when i can't vote, drink, drive and i still have to legally be in education for at least depending on where i go from, but i think it's completely under unfair that a pensioner with access to a car can get free transport while someone our age has to pay either full adult price or a ridiculously high price. [applause] >> thank you and congratulations to you speaking in public at 13 to such effect. you deserve our respect. the young man with the blue tie and light gray suit. >> yes. now my mom has to pay 19 pounds and 50 to sent me and my sister to school. i have to go legally but it's expensive. some times thes but doesn't turn up and i have to wait an hour and a half to go home. we need consistent transport and need it fair for young people. we have to be economical and can't have it free but if young people are attending school certainly they should have some rights to subsidized rides. >> a guy that had his and up at the back? would he like to, please? >> one thing people keep mentioning - think about it. when we're older we probably want the same thing. a lot of the elder people have already paid in the system over and over again. that's nothing to do with and then the government, people talk about go pricing but the war in iraq. one of the reasons it's there is for all of you, right? [inaudible] doesn't matter what we did but if they pull the troops out of iraq the americans are there and we follow them. [inaudible] as we would do the same thing. >> i want to thank you, sir. very warmly for that spirited and clear contribution and to note in passing, like some of my colleagues you have a magnificent way of linking desperate subjects to make your point. you have a politician in you. now i'd like to call the young woman there. yes, indeed? >> megan from scotland. as mentioned before, i'm from london so i'm really fortunate to have discounted transport but quite frankly i want to say across britain the government allowing young people to struggle to get to schools and colleges every day and the spending cuts have to effect everyone but young people don't have disposable incomes adults have so they should get some discount entrance is sport all across britain. >> thank you very much indeed. the woman there in the black dress? >> apart from the northwest. if a government can't ensure that the school and service tha a young person was entitled is in more distance from everyone's house and a young person can't drive and is from the under age of 17 should make it accessible because it's not fair to penalize people that can't drive and unless they can say people can drive from the age one and two and three and four which will never happen you need to consider that it's not fair to us. >> thank you. london person? who do we have from london? here? somebody said to me. choose a boy. >> okay. >> as we heard the difference between the london far off. london region and other regions. we've discount cards and all that stuff. we only have to pay ten pounds for the card and i think that it's really unfair for you guys to throw this out. i apologize. i would like to thank for the government allowing us to have some cards. we seem to become plaining. it's not completely equal. how can we all claim to be the united kingdom if we're not completely uniteed if we're not completely equal. [applause] >> thank you. we're getting towards the end and i'm going to ask the young woman at the back, there and then a couple more and we need to wrap up. >> thank you. i'd like to say this isn't a simple choice. discount cards some people claim it is quite unique condition because i have a station [inaudible] i don't go in because i can't afford to go out there. i go in london the whole time because i can afford it. it makes a massive difference and i hope it's not that case the people over 65 can get their pensions and we're not getting. >> i think the man with braces there? yes? [laughter] >> thank you. i'm from lincoln share. i wish i had a reduced transport scheme to defend but we don't have anything. it's disgusting and not acceptable. unfortunately our market towns in the royal communities have had a lot of job losses and it's very hard to get a job. yet, young people in the surrounding areas can't even get into lincoln because of the lack of efficiency. this is unacceptable. i talked to a constituent yesterday that just lost his job at 17. not entitled to any benefits whatsoever and the job opportunity in lincoln, he can't get. we need the rural areas to be considered. it's about time we see affordable transport introduced into lincoln. thank you. >> okay. we've got time for just a very small number more. we're going to take the woman who's about four foot long on the row not at the back but in front. pointing at yourself. it's you. >> megan. i am in one of the most rural areas of the country. 1440 pounds is how much i pay to get to my training. i have to decide if i can carry-over with a lifelong hobby or stop because i can't afford it. many people in nigh school don't have access to transport that young people do in other areas for. instance. 600 people in my area. five hundred stayed because they can't go anywhere else and that isn't fair. our school does not provide the same levels and they have to reassess their careers and the union they want to go to and the different places they can is succeeding in life. they can't. it would cost me up to three thousand pounds for half a year at the train stations. three trains to get to where i wanted. i'm 17 and i'm looking to start my driving lessons and then there, it's very pricey. i'm sure here some people would agree. [applause] >> one more from this side and then the wind up speaker. the young woman below the gang way. >> personally, transport is a sensitive issue for me. icon firm i don't see why i should pay an adult fare. i come from a rural area and i think it would provide accessing it for us. if young people paid full fare, it would effect young people in rural areas. thank you. [applause] >> thank you. i call mr. tom astastle. give him a warm welcome. [applause] >> thank you mr. speaker. today you have heard many different views on issues that matter to young people. the issue of accessible and affordable transport in this is a complex one and one that has many implications for the service that's effected whole communities. one question i would like you to think about is what you, do or pay for your seat on a bus or tram or train for an old person. i've got to hear it. in 20028 government in troe deuced threes but travel to people over the age of 60. the only group that continues to lose out are those under the age of 18. mr. speaker, money is always an issue. in my constituency of yorkshire it covers an area of one thousand square miles and is mainly rural. transport is the lifeline for young people so they can get to school, work and things like cinema. the assembly has been comparing for free transport for people for two years now and are currently, successfully running pilot scheme with 400 young people from 13 to 21. after raising 10,000 pounds in three months, the youth assembly has issued participants with a free travel card that's 25 pounds on it. and once the pilot is over the young people get 10% all over their transport. the aim is to raise the awareness. the awareness of need. socializing and taking part in fun activities or getting good education and quality educations for a greater life! [applause] nationally, there are 5 1/2 million young people age between 13 to 19, as apposed to free 3 1/2 million old people age over 60. you could argue that old people have worked in the country and they've earned the right to free travel, but, you could also argue that they can afford to pay their trouble of travel where most young people rely on parents and a part time job and le pay to pay for the necessities of life. money is always an issue. [applause] there's more here. should enable young people to access cheap transport be seen as an investment in this country and be a major part of future economic growth. in this time of spending cuts, local authorities, health services and the volunteer sector are all looking at ways of saving fumoney. what you need to ask yourself is what do you give up your oyster card so the services don't close? would you give up your rail card so the, nhs budget don't get closed. would you pull the discount cards have a negative effect on young people's lives. would it disable young people in urban and rural area as like to have social activities and education and find employment. by not investing. would it effect the police, armed forces, the nhs. youth services and our own, uk to survive. money is always an issue. to conclude then, mr. speaker i hope when they vote on this issue, we think long and hard anwith all of the options before making your final choice. during the time that i've been speaking. f three babies have been born around the country. think about that then as this. this could really make an impact on their lives and not just our own. now back to my opening question. what do you really give up your seat for an old person? well, you may just have to. thank you fellow students and youth workers for making this day possible. [applause] thank you to the young people at home for watching this day and thank you, mr. speaker! [applause] >> tom, thank you for concluded the debates today but also for doing so in such inspirational fashion upon which you should beacon graph lated and response you will well appreciate in the way people well responded to you. we'll come to point of order in due course. we have them every day in the chamber. that does conclude the debates for today. there will be a few more words in due course but the obligation now and the opportunity now is for the youth parliament to vote. before it does, how could i possibly fail to recognize and draw the attention of the parliament to the presence of the honorable gentlemen, the member for south poland and the deepings. i refer to of course, mr. john hays the current education minister! [applause] >> john hays is also one of the great parliamentry characters of this institution, a legend in his own lunchtime and he is a member who in variably will site know end of authors, poets and playwrites who's he met or read the works. john, we're delighted to see you today. thank you for coming! [applause] on this occasion, at least, i shall spare you my impersonation of him. those of you on my right, on my right, should leave the chamber by the door bind me and turn left into the lobby behind you. those on my left, should leave by the doors of the far end and turn left into the no lobby behind you. in the lobby you will be given ballot papers with separate colored papers. you should place across in either the yes or no box on each ballot paper, and and the completed ballot papers to the door keepers, in the lobbies afterwards returning there after to your place in the chamber. house of commons staff will be on and to assist you. need less to say. in respect of each vote, you should vote only once. [laughter] the division lobbies are now open. order. order. 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