Called it the germ of american reagan area the morningstar of liberty. Later in 1785, the thep act 250 years ago Stamp Act Congress convenes. York. The mayor of new he drafted a declaration of right. A decade before that other declaration in adelphia. Said no taxation without representation. And then not even most new yorkers know this for 18 months beginning in 1789 new york was the nations first capital. Holding the bible that you can see there. Peevishly he stormed out of the senators postponed their debate on a treaty. They did not object to the treaty they just could not hear of the minorities of the new york cafe. Washington never returned to the senate. Some things i guess ill change. Congress debated labor immigration at the site. Costthe bare bones of the of tuition Congress Also approved amendments to the constitution. The first two signaled their priorities. Congressional aim and representation. That affect not been ratified we would have 6000 congressman. The remaining 10 which were ratified became the bill of rights. And then we were lucky. Departed. Acked up and it was not a swamp, it was a marsh. Looking ahead to life in philadelphia, Abigail Adams lamented it wont be broadway. So at a site where history happened we are pleased to be joined by three journalists. Gail collins joined the New York Times in 1995. She was the first woman to hold her position or it she is now an oped on the. She is in the midst of writing obviously not from personally. Primary each writer for president reagan. And has written seven books. Livesok the time of our will be coming out this november. My former colleague at the new black person to win the pulitzer prize. She wrote the warmth of other sons the epic stories of americas great migration. Parallel for the stories can be. It concluded that the founding others were improvisers inventors and compromisers. I recognize the panel first area isnt the way the government is working these days if the Founding Fathers came back and were sitting with a night, with a think they got right . Ladies . What they would have no clue. Im not sure i agree its a good thing he left new york. Contacts is so totally different. The idea they came back with the all of these women running around. I would love to envision Thomas Jeffersons teen hillary clinton. It be hard to imagine a contact like that. They were features of their time. I dont get into the battles. Of course they werent all fathers. Many of them werent even married. We know that. Basis ofthink is the the government has . Click i think that some of the actual Public Service by representing the state of their congressional delegation . Sure for a limited time and then go home actually leave washington via north America Citizen again. It think there would be shocked by the nonbusiness of some candidates and shocked by the idea that politics is no profession. If we shocked by the Political Class professional consultants by super pacs. There be shocked by billionaires. Obviously its more than two centuries later so much would be startling for them that maybe the biggest argument would be our continuance is a democracy under public. Would say most of our Founding Fathers were alsos late folders. It would be donned and i think speechless to know who is actually in the white house right now area think i would be a shock to them. I bet they would not have been able to comprehend the possibility of people who have been brought here against their will by the hundreds of thousands into our president actually enslaved africans. He believed in gradualism because he could not even comprehend the idea people of african descent would be a mainstream into the society as a whole. It was incomprehensible. As you bring that up let me ask you were you surprised that it took so long with a think he is held to a different or higher standard . What would be really hard. I dont think they could comprehend the day when it would happen. It goes often to understanding. Nevermind the fact that this was how it went for our countrys history. Also how declined. Economics and the urgency. E are wall street was named after a wall. Wall was built by enslaved africans. A lot of people dont realize that. Washis street the wall built with log by slaves. The 1700 this was a market, but it was a market in which this things that were sold were not commodities human beings. But its very much entwined and art of the foundation of this city its a part of the foundation of our country. In fact new york was on par with theleston South Carolina also of those who were arriving to be sold and rented. The fathers about being among other things compromisers. Whatever happened to compromise . House majority real leader wrote in the time that it never of a pitbull eating the horn by throwing only numeric passes. What happened to the ability to solve problems . To makebaby steps, strong compromises to go forward. To do it in a nonvitriolic way . That comes from a quote by louisiana. Worse . Lly gotten you look at john quincy adams. They kept saying he had the was mad. His wife was an illegitimate child of on and on. Evening all my god not that bad. They the internet got only knows. It was bad enough as it was. I dont know that in terms of character there is any difference. Think they just had a moment right now. In congress the guy who got hit in the head with a cane. That was South Carolina. Streak. Always an crazy they can moment right now the crazy have to happen is people have to learn that we will lose if this happens. Once we figure that out that things will on down. No certaintyre is to being civil. What happened . Certainly in the past 25 years a number of things came together. And it altogether have a deleterious effect on things. One everyone in politics cap maximalist. No one can put forward a modest bill. This modest bill will do something. We can agree on it. Its all the world kind of an agreement on. Look back this and put it forward. Nobody wants to do that anymore. Theres no payment. Everything is my. Cant have a small immigration comprehend it. Be it has to be huge it have to be are shaking. So maximalist him happened. Candidatesre of our are and will be somewhat charismatic. Charismatic pastors are very interesting but not necessarily lead to later. I think thats part of whats going on and watch it now. Leaders to inability move things forward. The thing i see happened as 25 years as so many people making so much money on the divisions lecturing crazy area people and groups right wing people and groups who are wellfunded and agitating and they are always going to their own bases in getting them mad. Getting frustrated. Making them say you write that congressman and that senator. Finally america has we all know that few decades something geographically and culturally new. Arele who are likeminded more likely to be living together. People who are culturally likeminded navigate their way towards media that will comfort or inspire them. Have theese things effect of putting daggers in the idea compromise and moving Forward Together and taking a chance and trusting the other guy. I would say the speed with which people can coalesce around would be easier now than at any time in our history. That can swell up and create its own energy. Confirmation bias. Everybodys crazy. Instead of ever being convinced look to confirm what we already know. And that can build up. Its so hard to convince someone else of our idea. In fact what we are doing about the creating a more by people who plant themselves. Confirmation bias thats going to be. We information that was on one side they and the other side saying yes. The responses based on confirmation bias. That one piece that confirmed what they already knew area thats all they saw. He just throwing quite. Weight. Of good. Lets have a fight and make them happy. I think theres a little bit above. You look in america now there is shlomo french revolution where everybody pay every establishment. Everybody hates the leaders of every establishment. They the Media Establishment such as it is. But hate all establishment the u. S. Military and their own dock. Means everybody who is knows he their own way is, only under. What each of us believe. What we already believe in. Of donald trump . Is the first in american politics. A candidate with no police is dumb other than a certainty that anything he does is right . And we count for this phenomenon . Donald trump is our punishment for having too long president ial race is. I want to come back to something. Just for the hell of it so we can have the debate. I belong to you. Decentlege students for file. Other one. To the thattally did not believe anyone could be trusted. It was that everyone with who is an authority. It evolved into the politics of that era. It was a very crazy. Politics in which the democrats, the lab were very unwilling to compromise very unwilling to work the way things used to work. I remember when bill clinton was running the first time talking to one of those super left politicians and saying how can you think of bill clinton is a compromiser . She said dam it im so tired of losing area and the Democratic Party changed at that point. You might argue be the right now the thing that we got is not a political problem republican problem. And thats the whole we hate everything we did everybody we are not going to offer mys were not going to do anything if not actually the two parties if one party. Trying to have right here. I am of two minds on that. Maybe more than two minds on that. There is a lot of feeling on the republican side that they have been trying to compromise or 20 and 30 of three and 50 years. And at the end of the day they look at and they somehow always got worse. Tax nationt higher got higher regulation got higher. The power of the government and its ability to intrude somewhat in your life always came bigger. Compromisingget by this is the time that america is then Serious Problems in the world. I understand those. Especially the tea party saying now is the time when you just have to start eating home. Time, a look at his speaker of the house who navigated his way as well i think as a human being could. The past two years. Such a conservative voting record. He led the republicans in to break the stream 2010 and continued in 2014. I dont want to balance these two thought. Lose a man who is so legislatively capable and willingly capable of making a deal it feels not been in all. You also written that the gap between those who run the program and those who are governed is now gone huge. Why is that gap growing so big . I forget. Without you me . Would laugh. Look. Areicas leaders congressman and senators, the people popular with the federal government, they used to live normal lives. Normalo experience the harassment to life in america. He worked jobs he got a paycheck they had no specific or great status. They knew what it was to just the normal and then they would go into government. I am being very general. They would go into governments and they would do things normally area in i dont see that now i see two generations now an action govern