Conservatives are outraged that the cups no longer feature holiday designs. They havent been this angry about a missing cup since Janet Jacksons half time show. And a new barbie can record what your children say and steer it in the cloud. As it turns out, the cloud is also where barbie has been hiding kens penis. I didnt know that. I didnt know that. Its time to get nightly, america. Lets do it. Captioning sponsored by Comedy Central cheers and applause larry thank you very much. Welcome to the show. What a great audience tonight. Larry larry larry youre so kind. Youre correct, i am larry wilmore. And, man, we have an an allstar panel for you tonight. Rick ross, norman lear, and bill engvall on the program. Thats right. Thats right. The old gang is back together, guys. laughter its the most interesting assortment of people. Great. Awesome. Man, you know, its hard to believe, but were starting to see christmas ads already. I mean, wasnt it just arbor day . laughter seriously. I feel like just yesterday i was chopping down trees for my big arborcue. Oh, time just flies. But one christmas ad this year is making people not so merry. Bloomingdales is apologizing this afternoon for an inappropriate holiday advertisement. Take a looka this ad, appeared nay recent holiday category. The caption resident, spike your best friends eggnog when theyre not looking. Audience oooh larry spike your best friends eggnog when theyre not looking . Jesus christ who is your ad firm, sterling Cooper Raper Pryce . applause that really makes me mad, men. Get it, mad men. Hey its a holiday pun. Its a hol pun. But seriously, spike your best friends eggnog. What kind of clothe regular you selling, cosby sweaters . Thats right, bleep i havent forgotten about you getting late in the year. I still remember that bleep . laughter all right, but, seriously, you know, this ad is disgusting. I mean, whos their target demo, bill cosby . I had to do it again. Im sorry. Im sorry i cant help it no, guys. This ad is so awful it makes bloomingdales look like cosbys hotel room. I cant applause i apologize. No, guys stop youre encouraging me. This is i admit, i have a problem, okay. laughter but not as big a problem as bill cosby. All right . Okay. applause thats it. No, seriously. I am done. No. I can stop the the at four, rea. Unlike cosby. Okay, i really am done. I really am done. Okay. And bloomingdales laughter bloomingdales isnt the only big company mired in a christmas controversy. Starbucks fresh off their successful ending of racism with their race together cup campaign, are now setting their sights higher by having their cups runeth over with world peace. The decision by starbucks to use a minimalist design for its signature holiday cup is stirring up a little bit of a debate. Some evangelical christians are very upset that the coffee giant is doing away with symbols of the season like the snowflakes, the snowmen, and the other kind of ornaments. Larry no snowmen how am i going to celebrate the birth of jesus . laughter that doesnt even make sense cheers and applause guys what are they doing to me and the immaculate inception for this starbucks cup controversy was delivered to us the way so many of our christmas fights start, from an angry guy in a parking lot. Do you realize starbucks wanted to take christ and christmas off of their brand new cups. Thats why theyre just plain red. In fact, do you realize starbucks isnt allowed to say Merry Christmas to customers. Larry all right, calm down, paul blart cup cop. Really. laughter applause i mean, first of all, christ and christmas were never even on the cups. Also, theyre cups. laughter you know, but it only takes one spark from a douchey vertical video to set off a firestorm of cup rage. A forecaster is stirring up some real controversy. Twitter erupted. Theres a coffee war brewing. Just a plain red cup. It was like waking up to a lump of coal. We cant say Merry Christmas now. Wraijing a war. War. War on christmas. Political correctness gone mad. Its time for a boycott. Larry only only in america can people be outraged over cups, right . I mean, seriously, seriously, we polled a boat load of syrian refugee on whether the new starbucks cups were controversial. 0 were upset and 43 answered, we cant find my father. And the remaining 57 said, my grandmother needs her medicine. Im just reporting the important things. This is whats important. cheers and applause but the most american part of the story was that starbucks competitors saw this as an opportunity. Finally, Dunkin Donuts unveiling its holiday cups. Theyre decorated with a wreath circ ling the word joy. Larry yeah in your face starbucks beelzecups. You know, guys, seriously, all this is so silly. Thats why i get all of my holiday coffee at bethlehem brew. Uhhuh. Yeah. laughter there we go. Thats where i get my coffee from. applause my favorite drink . My triple wiseman bibliocano golden half iced immaculatte. applause did i say skinny . I said skinny, right . Okay, i just wanted to know. You know, let me let me add a little myrrh. laughter mmmm mmmm thats some good christmas. laughter lenny, of course. My names larry for christs sake. Okay, all right. laughter thank you very much. Okay, to help me sort through this christmas controversy were going to go right to the source. Please welcome a starbucks cup, everybody. Hi. Hello, larry hello hi on behalf of everyone in the starbucks family, i want to wish you an ethically sourced seasons greetings. Larry you, too. Now, why did you get rid of your why did you get rid of your Christmas Decorations . Larry, its not our job to tell you why you should feel joyous and merry. Our desire is for the starbucks cup to be a blank slate on to which our customers from any denomination can project any message. I knot a message starbucks sucks hold oeverybody oh, hey its Dunkin Donuts cup, everybody. Give him a nice round of applause. cheers and applause merry bleep christmas, larry. Larry whoa, whoa. Okay. You hi, hi Dunkin Donuts. Its so good to see you. And because youre still made from styrofoam well be seeing you for the next million years. applause . Thats right. Im invincible. D. D. s going to live forever. Larry both of you settle down. This is not a fight. Lets have a mature, rational conversation all right between one guy, two cups. laughter . Thats not quitehow i meant. I saw what did you there, larry. That was funny. The problem is what the hell you got against joy . Nothing we embrace joy. We just want everyone to be happy. Try not charging 7 a cup. Okay. All right. applause larry hold on, Dunkin Donuts. Since you brought up money, keep it 100. Arent you exploiting christmas, too, just to make a profit. Yeah, deck the halls. Lets go. Larry, at starbucks we dont focus on the money. We focus on the sense of community thats giving us the money. Larry oh. This is th donut dealer is not focusing on the spirit of the holiday season. Donut dealer . What do you have to do with christmas . Youre a freaking mermaid. Larry okay, guys, guys, guys. Please laughter i think both of are you getting way too much national attention. You know, youre just cups. All right . Well, larry, i like to think of us more as holy grails of caffeine. Im cool with that. laughter what are you doing after this, girl . Larry all right, both of you, get out of here get out of here well be right back. Well be right back. cheers and applause okay, what is this . Its chewy. Really icy. Wooh. Thats intense it just hits you. Its gum. No. Its totally a mint its disappearing as i am chewing it. Where did it go . Its not a gum. Not a mint. Its a breakthrough in cool. Ice breakers cool blasts. [aat sleep trainsh mattress price wars, save up to 400 on beautyrest and posturepedic. Get interestfree financing until 2019 on tempurpedic. But mattress price wars and this special financing offer ends sunday. Larry welcome back. Were honored to bring out a very special guest right now. He is a Legendary Television writer and producer responsible for such classic shows as all in the family, sanford and son,the jeffersons, good times, and maude. His book, even this i get to experience, is now out in paperback. Please welcome, norman lear. cheers and applause larry we thought wed make you feel comfortable with, like, an archy and edith chair out here. I love it. Larry i remember archie always had some beer. So cheers to the archie beer, i guess. And it is beer. Larry it really is beer. Thats great. Last night whoa no im going to tell you something, you shouldnt even bleep around like that, man. Seriously. Their comes an age where thats not a fun game. I almost lost it there for a second. bleep . But, you know, what . Its funny, because thats thats its almost a metaphor for your lifes work, you know. You did things that were daring at a time when people just didnt tv was so safe when you when you started all in the family. Did you ever think you would get that show on the air . I didnt think there was anything so unusual about it. There wasnt anything we talked about that you couldnt hear on a playground or a living room anywhere in america, all the problems, all the stuff, all the you know. And the archie bunker character, too, for that matter. Larry do you think your shows changed culture . Or do you think your shows were just reflecting the culture . Oh, thats a great question. I think it did both. Larry a little bit of both, right . I think it did a little bit of both. I knew it was reflecting the culture because thats what we were writing. Thats what we were doing. Some time later, listening to people talk about having seen it with their family, oh, we watched it. And the whole family watched it. And then we talked. Thats the greatest gift of all. We talked afterwards. Larry as a kid treally look, let me be honest. Let me give you 100. Youre the reason why im here. You inspired me as a kid watching those shows. Im the reason i didnt even know your mother. Larry no, its true. applause . I never met the woman. Larry the issues you brought up, i had i didnt know you could do those issues on television. You know. You were, also, on nixons enemies list. Thats a badge of honor. Larry that is a badge. cheers and applause you, john lennon. I mean, when you heard about that, what was your reaction . I thought it was great. Thats where i wished to be. But some time later, when they the tapes, the nixon tapes that were taken of the conversations in the oval office, there he was for three minutes talking about this show. Larry he was obsessed. Obsessed with archie bunker. Why do they put a good man down . Larry yeah, archie was the protagonist. Speaking of president s, do you kind of feel a little bit responsible for having archie bunker running for president right now . laughter be honest. I think you see the American People giving the finger to American Leadership with donald trump. You know. This is what applause larry ill tell you, will you stick around and join our panel a little later . Ill do anything you and this audience say. cheers and applause larry great. Ladies and gentlemen, were going to take a quick break and norman will be on our panel. Norman lear, everybody. Well be right back this is not a couch. This is where we. Roll our eyes at people on reality shows who. Oh shh shh shh, oh my god hes about to propose. Oh, its so cute. cheers and applause . Larry i know. Itseate. Welcome back. Joining me again tonight with the rest of my panel, legendary tv producer norman lear. And his new comedy special will be coming out next year, old friend of mine bill engvall. And his new album, black market, drops december 4. Ure better go bet it. Rick ross. And for everyone at home, join our conversation right now on twitter nightly show using the hashtag tonightly. This is one upon my favorite topics. We talked earlier about the starbucks christmas cups. They removed all the christmassy images and just made it solid red. First of all, is anyone offended by this . Oh, man i think, you know, im big on christmas. My kids are big on christmas. But me being a boss, you know i see starbucks chasing the dollar. Larry yeah . Do you think theyre doing this for money reasons . Is this good publicity theyre getting, do you think . I dont think the publicity is good but i most definitely feel theyre, you know, taking down trying to make people who may not be or believe in christmas more comfortable during the holidays. Thats what i believe. Larry norman, explain to me, somebody being offended by a cup. This is the part i dont understand. Exactly. Are you assuming starbucks wished to do this, start the controversy or did some fool say christmas is all about selling. applause larry commerce. Yeah. Its all about weve taken what was a an important religious holiday for most people and made it a circus. Larry yeah. Well, christmas i feel christmas is both a religious and a secular holiday. I mean, it is both. I mean, its a national holiday. Banks take it off. I mean, its built on both religious traditions and pagan traditions. That tree was not in the manger. Everybody knows that, right . laughter . My problem with this whole thing the tree is a phallic symbol, for goodness sake. If he gets in the history of all the christmas i love christmas at the wilmore house. Larry exactly, hey, honey, let me tell you the meaning of the yule log. laughter . The true meaning of the yule log. Larry the true meaning of the yule log. Bill knows what im talking about. Oh, please. Heres my problem its not even thanksgiving yet. I mean, right . cheers and applause its all about selling. At starbucks i wasnt upset there wasnt a turkey on my cup. Larry do you think there is a war on christmas . You said you love christmas. Do you think there is a war on christmas . I believe there might be a war on christmas going on most definitely. Because you most definitel defir less and less religious aspect of december 25. But, rick, do you think there are people out there who have decided lets make a war on christmas . laughter i mean, when we got kids who havent got enough food, and weve got people out of work and weve. cheers and applause . Thats most definitely christmas has got to go down thats most definitely whats important because, you know, christmas is all about the spirit of giving. You know, once you make it to our age, were just happy to be here and celebrate it. cheers and applause . Larry yeah. And the fact that kid are growing up these days thinking that santa drives a red mercedes. You know. As far as the war on christmas, heres my problem with it im a christian. I celebrate christmas. I say Merry Christmas. But i dont go preaching it. Its like, you know, what if someone is not a christian, i dont go hey, you know what . Its christmas or its nothing, brother. Larry exactly. Also, if somebody says happy hanukkah it doesnt offend me. No not at all. It offends me. laughter larry i mean, if they said heres your change, happy kwanzaa, then i might get upset. bleep . Okay. I gotta talk about this other topic because this one really makes me laugh. So jeb bush was asked this question the other day. Do you guys know where im going . Yes. Larry he was actually asked if he could go back in time which was already ridiculous. I dont know why jeb exclamation point gets all these ridiculous questions. If he could go back in time and had a chance to kill baby hitler, would he do it . He said yes. I gotta hear from everybody. Rick, would you , of course,. Larry you would kill baby hitler . Of course,. Larry really of course,. Larry you would kill a little baby . You would just kill it. Rick, heres what i would do would you kill baby hitler . If hes a baby you dont really know what he will grow up to do. You cant have your cake and eat it, too with a time machine you can. Put him in a mommy and me class or gymboree. Maybe grow the full mustache. Larry at what point would you kill him . I dont know. I mean what happened was atrocious, but to go back in time i cant kill a baby. Is he born to be the hitler we knew . He is definitely on his way to hitlerville. Hes not take anything detours. No matter what you did, i would lock him in a room. Larry you would lock him in a room . I would lock him up. Before id kill him, id lock him up. Larry really . Yeah. Give him a chance. I know, i mean id lock the son of a bitch up. Larry nobody wants to kill a baby. I dont want to kill. Larry wouldnt this be fun . Keeping it 100, you guys. Come on, hitler . Its hitler im sorry. bleep . I got your back. I got your back upon go ahead. Larry come on, we can do it together. We can do it together. Well be right back. Come here, baby hitler. cheers and applause this is not a couch. This is where you plan on watching just a little tv and end up watching two full seasons in one sitting until its 4am. We all do it man. No judgment. Iits just a cough. Ur cough, youd see how often you cough all day and so would everyone else. New robitussin 12 hour delivers fast, powerful cough relief that lasts up to twelve hours. New robitussin 12 hour cough relief. Because its never just a cough. Hey rasure, when pigs fly. Rito . Hey ralph. [explosion] [rocket sound] take it. Good boy. With pizza huts 6. 99 any deal, i can get a meat lovers and they can get all the fresh vegetables they want. No more compromise. 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